feedback-discussion

[grave iris]

!report

[marsh garden]

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[unborn sandal]

I guess the mods are asleep. He’ll get reprimanded when they wake up. I don’t really care

[flat sandal]

@steel coral I don't think you would get punished, just matched with people with about the same ping. I think more even ping in a match would feel more fair to everyone as the communication speed to the servers would be roughly the same. At least knowing that that is the case should make things feel better.

Though I wonder how the 75ms limit would effect high ping lobbies

It would probably suddenly happen that you shoot someone and it doesn't register

cause you dead already^^

[unborn sandal]

There just aren’t enough players to match based on ping. People already say the mmr is too loose and still they get empty lobbies. Another matchmaking quota is going to make that worse

[flat sandal]

atm ping just isnt considered. If now you start during matchmaking to consider it as best as possible that would already be something

like, just sort what you have got

sort of loosly^^

so its effect can scale with player availability

idk

[unborn sandal]

I think you underestimate how much of an impact another divider in matchmaking would have

[flat sandal]

it wouldnt really be a divider

[unborn sandal]

also ping is a non problem that people play up

[flat sandal]

well crazy trades are a ping problem

not necessarily unfair but dodgy as hell feeling

[unborn sandal]

they should have made the new trade ping limit the ping limit (200 ms)

I suspect it’s going to cause a lot of hit reg problems if you’re over 75 Ms

[flat sandal]

at least people would get to experience what the other side of the medal looks like.

low ping lobbies would be sweet though

in EU certainly possible. I have zero isues with MM or cue times even in down times

[flat sandal]

what do you mean by that?

[unborn sandal]

Currently it’s 800ms and they’re jumping straight to 75ms

The ping limit is 200ms and they should have started with the lowering there and if they felt it needed to go further that’s fine

[rotund obsidian]

I figure it's more or less gonna be the difference in ping, so you won't see vanishing bullets unless you have 75 ping more than your enemy, right? 🤔 cause their hit has to go through to the server, then the 75ms window starts?

[flat sandal]

I hope it will have the effect that nobody will play with high ping on purpose

like a soft ping limit

[rotund obsidian]

so realistically it's probably only gonna be noticeable over 100ish

[unborn sandal]

No one plays with high ping on purpose already

High ping is a disadvantage in every way

People only play with high ping for three ways

[flat sandal]

not sure, I think just more then 75ms? not neccessarily then your enemy

plus travel time

but I only just finished my coffee^^

[unborn sandal]

1: to play with friends in other regions. 2: to get more populated servers. 3: as a meme because they like pissing people off

[flat sandal]

that's what I like to think as well. all this onslaught of complaints here has me doubting it sometimes^^

[unborn sandal]

The complaints are because category three is growing

[flat sandal]

yeah very possible

[unborn sandal]

I’ve seen it firsthand people saying in game that they’re “ping abusers” after killing me

[flat sandal]

that one scares me the most actually

[unborn sandal]

trolls are trolls and it will always be that way

[flat sandal]

so sad 😄

hopefully they are just kids. Grown ass men behaving like that is so very pathetic

[unborn sandal]

They are grown ass men with jobs. It’s pathetic

[flat sandal]

oh well, suppose it's like with ppl in cars^^

[unborn sandal]

What?

[flat sandal]

ppl behind their keyboards act like ppl behind their wheels. like monkey^^

[fallen meteor]

ok tq sir

[steel coral]

That’s a punishment to me. You make the game into a turn based rng game.

[flat sandal]

that's regardless of the matchmaking, just the ping itself

[crystal plume]

@wispy lion Did you check whether or not you have the charm already in your inventory?

[wispy lion]

Oh i haven't. I will check in a bit. Still sucks a lot that i lost all the pledges from my hunters. Very sour end to the event

[warm nexus]

I like what you’re saying @brazen mauve but I would try to rephrase that #game-ideas for a bit, it’s a bid oddly-written.

[brazen mauve]

You're right, went back over it to get it a bit more sorted

[wispy lion]

i have it yes. i guess there's no way to fix the lost hunter pledges...

[merry grotto]

Is the menu searching bug still triggering hotkeys to be addressed soon?

[subtle dust]

Title: Rename the Auto-4 shorty
Description: Rename it either to Auto-4 or Auto-5 Shorty. On the skin it still says Auto-5.

[limber meadow]

Is my feedback more of a bug?

[white plover]

Out of zone?

[limber meadow]

Yeah, like if you go to far away from the zone

Ah Clash

[white plover]

Ahhhhh, well I wouldn't recommend going out of zone for that

[limber meadow]

Mh mh mh,,, yes great advice.....

[earnest perch]

anyone else having issues with their mouse disconnecting? I am having that issue and it is only with this game since the update. FYI mouse works fine with any other game.

[sonic mirage]

Please, for the love of god, bring gyro support to the game.

[frigid folio]

It's a bug atm, started happening a week or two ago (for me). I've only had it happen a few times thankfully but when it does I've found a quick alt tab out and in of hunt fixes it! My best guess is they tried to fix one of the cursor bugs and then caused the mouse to almost ignore the hunt window all together 😅

[crystal plume]

@rancid coral The game already has DLSS 3

Unless you mean frame generation specifically?

[rancid coral]

according to developer insight it has DLSS 2.3.1 ...
that's why I'm asking my question. I thought it wasn't up to date yet.

[crystal plume]

We have 3.7.10 currently

It was updated a while ago

[rancid coral]

Nice. My mistake. Thank you for your quick feedback. 😅

[crystal plume]

No problem

[rancid coral]

Unfortunately I have framedrops and I thought that was because of that.😅

[indigo hound]

well, it might sound dumb but that's the best answer you're gonna get because if you want to play a game where you can move around in a bigger zone : play bounty hunt random contract

[frail moat]

Will anybody address this problem? @hard minnow

[limber meadow]

That is not what I asked. And a better solution would be to allow for atleast enough time to res a burnt out hunter

[indigo hound]

OK I get it
Your friend didn't know and he fucked up
It sucks for him but it'll only happen once as he will not make that mistake again
I hope you'd agree that someone making a mistake once, because he didn't understand the rules of the gamemode, doesn't require a fix
Also it's supposed to be a short gamemode with not much at stake

[crystal plume]

Did you check whether or not you have the charm in your inventory?

Wait nvm I read the post as being related to the issue with passes being reset

People got the charm even without paying for levels, you had to play outside of just doing challenges to get enough points like in the past

You get points from the first reward of the daily dark tributes and through normal gameplay, that combined with the weeklies should be enough to get all the way to the charm

Only reason I didn't get the charm this time around is because I played considerably less compared to previous events

[indigo hound]

As he said this specific charm was honestly pretty hard to farm.
I agree that was much harder than before.
It is still just a charm, it's not that big of a deal but I agree they set the bar too high

[crystal plume]

@rustic tinsel We already have rain, it's just waiting to be reworked for the new engine like had with other missing times of day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYHO9ldxAvM

[spring hound]

Completing all challenges still had 4 levels left to grind, and then 15000 points on top of that.

The most efficient point method was about 10 points per minute.

[steel comet]

I miss rain

[crystal plume]

Same, it had so much atmosphere

[spring hound]

19000 pts is about 31 hours. Unless you're simply some god who rolls in kills everyone gets 200 points a match in 10-15 minutes.

[spring hound]

Unfortunately, they seem to keep dialing back both the blood bonds we get and the amount of levels gained via challenges. I did a quick and dirty number crunch above. I got my last 4 levels yesterday. And it took about 5 hours.

[frail moat]

Can't agree with you.
The last quests were available up until last Wednesday, Nov 20.
I managed to finish my BP on Tuesday, and only then did I find out that I needed another 15k points, just like in previous seasons.
I thought, 'Okay, with the new weekly quests, that's about 7k points. I already have 7k, so there's plenty of time to finish the event.'
Imagine finishing your BP on Tuesday (with 0 points on Charm progress). There's no way to get 15k points without quests just by playing. Tributes will only get you about 1k points.

It's even more ridiculous for new players because the only way to know you need to farm 15k points is by finishing the BP first (Charm points aren't visible until then).
For old players like me, it’s also a problem since the balance of points could have been easily changed for this event.
Well, imagine my surprise when I found out there were no quests on Thursday, Nov 21.
I thought, 'Okay, the devs always turn on some points boost at the end of the season.'

It's basically just bad planning from the devs. I tried to farm, but I like playing the game, not suffering through meaningless runs for points.
Right now, I have every single skin in the game except for this charm—just because the devs were bad at planning and didn't pay attention to the details anymore.
It's even more frustrating that there were no responses about problems like this. The sense of completeness is what kept me playing all these years.

[unkempt maple]

It's great that Crytek extended Bounty Clash for two additional weekends, but please don't miss this opportunity: make bounty clash a permanent part of the game. you don't have to wait to do this.

[north raptor]

Doing the weekly challenges should have gotten you everything before the charm alone. And that assumes you don't play anything outside of completing challenges. I was able to complete the battlepass without going out of my way to farm points at all (and i finished it three weeks ago). Also, your point about "the only way to know you need to farm 15k points is by finishing the BP first" is completely not true. On the battlepass progression, every level clearly states the number of event points needed to complete it. If you click on the charm at any point you could see that.

[frail moat]

I've paid for BP with extra levels, completed all quests and got only 7k out of 15k for the charm
Last short week should have been also with quests or at least with points boost.

[north raptor]

how much have you played over the event?

[spring hound]

Absolutely incorrect. Playing challenges with 10% boost hunters the entire time only got to level 33/37.

Playing every single day, for the 200 tribute points. Might have been enough.

20 Days, but that is still playing outside the challenges. No way it takes that long to complete them unless you simply aren't trying to.

[torn quiver]

@clear shuttle absolutely no, all of those changes would make game closer to call of duty and NOBODY wants that, none of those changes would make game good in any way, hunt is good because its simple old fashioned and doesnt need to be made mainstream game with all useless changes and additions. And remebmer you are a HUNTER so constant fighting is not the main objective but to HUNT the bounty targets, this is still PvEvP not PvPvE. so PvE is main target not gunfights and killing players

[rotund obsidian]

buddy of mine finished all the challenges and was at 34, so close but not quite

[white plover]

@midnight sequoia I believe that feature is coming in Update 2.2 which will be nice

[urban night]

how to drop from 6 stars?

any idea? for god sake

searching for players and match takes soooo long

what is going on

[wet knoll]

LOOOL uneven??? as a 4 star game always force me to play with 6 stars... 😮‍💨

[urban night]

this fucking mmr system is trash

[ocean plover]

Oh, a new update.... oh, new bugs

[queen jungle]

Is there a way to pin this post? Despite all the "we are always working to improve" the reality is that nothing has improved to that end

It kinda seems like they just don't give a shit lol

[wet knoll]

seems so

and in my opinion most of the 4 stars are cheaters they are making impossible shot without hearing or seing anything and they allways head shot even with pistol from 70-90 meters away

[queen jungle]

Even if they're not cheating (which they probably aren't), and this experience is happening to you 'most' of the time as you stated, it indicates that there is a huge skill disparity between you and the lobbies you're in

I am convinced that this issue will always be a part of this game for 2 reasons.
The first is that the majority of players are not going to grind thousands of hours like some of us have in order to get good at a game, and therefore this company will always struggle with player retention. Then they overcompensate by pulling their pants around their ankles, getting into a comfortable squatting position, and violently ejecting a dump on MMR calculation--you can't have 'even' lobbies if there aren't enough players in your real skill region.
The 2nd reason is like I already said... they just don't give a shit. Take the recent blog for example. In the SAME blog, they state that
"This means that when you’re new to the game, your rank will fluctuate more often than when you have hundreds of hours racked up,"
followed shortly by
"Playtime isn’t a factor in the matchmaking system."
The whole thing is just them trying to save face... there are no positive changes coming because of 1 & 2 above. Despite my love for the game, I cannot recommend it to anyone. At the end of the day nobody is actually listening--they're just trying to scrape a couple bucks off you.

[urban night]

what is the point to paly solo when 2 traps are killing u for god sake

everyone are using traps

dafuq is this

2 traps and u are dead with full health

revive is pointless

anyone can explain that to me?

[dusty gazelle]

I've been thinking it would be nice to be able to befriend hunters in mission I mean like you both talk you want to play together you could both hold a med kit and face each other hold a key and than you 2 solos become a duo as in I can see there blue outline we could ping,revive,and team talk when that comes out just an idea

[dusty gazelle]

Bring "Vigilant" and scan alot I never run into traps since also make it a habit when going through thresholds slow down and look at the ground. Try to avoid boss lair ground clutter also you can try changing jump and vault to different keys so you can jump onto window ledges without going through and look down

[urban night]

no run

when u die there are always someone who put traps on u

what is the point of revive here

when u stand up u insta die cuz of 2 traps

why even 2 beartraps are so freaking strong

[quartz river]

@urban night i hard agree with you. Traps don't need to be that strong, OR they shouldn't be able to be that close together

[urban night]

it is litteraly pointless to take necro when playing solo right now

every match today there was someoen who put traps on my body

i dont want to talk about mmr system when i got 6* and I have to play agains full 6* trios

GG crytek

[pallid plank]

Keep bounty clash as a permanent mode

[white plover]

Seeming like that may be where they had, maybe as a weekend mode

Although we shall see what happens when next event comes out

[latent geyser]

#feedback message
It's possible that the hat had no collision, so just a part of the model that you can't hit. You can see the burned hit behind the hunter. I don't think there's a problem here, either from the game or you.

[rustic timber]

I agree. It is a shame. I wonder if solo could perhaps get an option between regular necro or "leap necro". Meaning they get revived to whatever is the closest AI. Be that at the next compound. But that version does not give full health back.

[thin remnant]

I don't agree. Necro is still useful if you trade, or in situations where in a hectic fight people kill you and don't have time to do anything to your body, or if you have a stupid death to AI or something

Or just, if you go up against bad players or players who don't bring traps

[rustic timber]

I play on six star. They take control of a room with a sound "here we are" kinda attitude.

[crystal plume]

@rustic timber I'm personally using M4 for voip and M3 for ping so not sure why it wouldn't let you use the same keys

[rotund obsidian]

Any version of self-necro where you get up at a different location would be horrendously busted. Solos could just never lose a hunter since you could just fight, then rez at a different compound and leave. There's no version of that that feels good for the other end where you kill a solo, instantly cover the body, then they just poof and vanish and they might come back for a rematch, they might not.

[hybrid forum]

@fickle fractal #game-ideas message
If you don't like hunt, why did you bother playing it before bounty Clash?

Also I personally don't like clash because it doesn't have the hunting part of hunt showdown

You just get a mush of fights straight away

It's like a fast food of hunt showdown

Fine in small doses, terrible when it's the only thing you eat

Though adding 1 more team in trios could work. In duos it wouldn't make a difference, but trios are often barren and predictable

4 teams isn't enough

[clear shuttle]

@torn quiver it was simply suggestions that might improve the game or simply give ideas. it doesn't necesserilly means that must be implimented into the game.

[hybrid forum]

@iron trench #feedback message

As of now, jump shots in hunt are perfectly accurate in the first part of the jump, but are completely inaccurate when falling. In said video, you were shooting right at the peak of the jump. I'm not saying anything about if it's good, but you can't do the cod 360 shots when falling off a building

[latent geyser]

What's more surprising is "Hunt isn't fun since 1.5 year now", that's around the beginning of the Tide trilogy... the game didn't have much gameplay or stability change at this point...

[grave iris]

@soft tendon Did you try to equip a loadout and copy it into the 15th slot?

[white plover]

@dense citrus Your post in #game-ideas has been removed due to not being a game idea, the post would be better suited for #feedback

[uncut pendant]

is bounty clash gone or is it staying? I think it should stay permanently

[carmine needle]

All we know is it's staying for the next two weekends

[uncut pendant]

niceeeee

thanks

[hybrid forum]

@split lantern #game-ideas message they've stated that they wanted to add this, but the sheer amount of skins they'd have to fix forbids them from doing so

[thin remnant]

Yeah but not everyone does. I couldn't say how it is on six though because Im not there
So maybe it's terrible

[soft tendon]

yea, you can do that but not use it after

[iron trench]

I still don't like the idea... take Counter Strike as an example... you're absolutely punished by jumpshooting, there is so much RNG that the bullet can deviate by 1 screen, with the exception of some exclusive guns that works with this; And that's why this video is crazy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjOVXdarUTs
Coldzera and anybody else could not repeat it again... the odds are so low that it's almost impossible to see it happen again and it is so much like this, Valve painted a AWP with Wings in this wall in that map.

It should be like this also in Hunt... i see no problem in that 'perfect accuracy' with Shotguns (buckshot and flechette only), Derringer (PennyShot), Crossbows, Bows, Bomb Lances and weapons alike, but you shouldn't be allowed to jumpshoot with Rifles and Pistols/Revolvers; in other words, you should not be able to jumpshoot with precise weapons.
There is another video showing the spread of jumpshots in CS and it is nuts, and it should be like this:
https://youtu.be/hEzYj60J2gg?si=R6Ew1C7drvuHnuRm

[iron trench]

One more thing.. i don't know if you agree with me, but i think CS is the best well balanced FPS ever made.

[hybrid forum]

balance wise I don't have much to say because I dislike the game with my guts and I don't play it alot. All I'm going to say is that the less factors the game has, the more balanced it is.
If people would only strive for balancing, then every game would be like ratz instagib, where everyone has the same gun, same character, that gets one shotted with every laser shot. It's a true balance, everyone has the same kit, and only skill chooses the victor.
The more factors a game adds, the harder to balance it gets, and often it's impossible to truly balance a game. Cs can't ever be the most balanced because it's asymetrical at it's core. One side defends, and one attacks. The argument of being the most balanced goes out of the window, since symetrical games like ratz exist. On a scale of balance however, it's really balanced.
However as I've said, balance has nothing to do with the fun factor of a game, so I'd say it's debatable if its fun

Hunt is hard to balance because of the sheer amount of factor the extraction shooter genre provides. In CS you mostly have to worry about someone's guns, positioning, and the money they have. In hunt you also have the dark sight, loadouts chosen beforehand that are more "varied" in what they do than the straightforward guns in CS. You've got ammo types, bullet drop, an open map, 3rd parties, and so on and so on

it's a no brainer that a more straightforward game is more balanced than one with a shitton of random bullshit that can cause your death

[arctic flame]

@rustic timber you can it’s been 4 year I use M4 and M3 for my tool and melee

So they maybe remove the option if they do that dumb

[crisp herald]

Please change ur UI… Never seen such a mess

[dense citrus]

okey 👍🏼

[rustic timber]

I tried getting the map to work with. Popped up a message that said that action/button was not supported.

[rustic timber]

I get a message popping up, saying it is not allowed.

[median zephyr]

a lot of the keybinds have been bad since 1896, if you had them bound before they stay

but after some options for multiple disappear, and also stuff like not being able to pick the button happens, its bad

[inner kestrel]

go back to the old ui please the current one is terrible!!

[arctic flame]

Really ? Back in the day we can revamping weirds

[arctic flame]

I got a screen shot from old option

See before we can do that but they remove that

[lethal plover]

Howdy. Got 1/14 of my Hunter slots used, but I can't purchase any Legendary Hunters. I also can't dismiss this hunter nor add to her loadout.

I reinstalled

[modern scaffold]

res bolts are insanely broken wtf is this shit

they nerf necro to prevent res spam and then add this???

[carmine needle]

Try going into a map and then extracting

[quartz socket]

@coarse geyser you do realize they just mega-buffed throwing knives and nerfed the spear into obscurity in the last update right???

[coarse geyser]

I did not

[quartz socket]

ah

yeah they made throwing knives 1hk to chest

and gave 2 more of them and increased throwing speed

[coarse geyser]

Ah

[rotund obsidian]

idk about 'nerfed the spear into obscurity' its still a very strong tool

[quartz socket]

not for 150 it aint

[rotund obsidian]

price =/= balance

[quartz socket]

in the case of tools it is lmao

haven't died to a spear since they nerfed it

also ignoring the price I'd rather have throwing knives

barely any slower, still 1hk to the chest, better against AI

[rotund obsidian]

i mean yeah, throwing knives are good now, but that doesn't mean the spear is shit.

[quartz socket]

except it does because they're directly competing with each other

[rotund obsidian]

spear is still a very strong pve tool with a ranged lethal hunter armshot in the pocket. I still see plenty of spears. Had one thrown at a teammate then at me yesterday.

[quartz socket]

it kills most things slower then throwing knives now, I'd rather lob 2-3 throwing knives at a hunter then 1 spear, and if you lose it it's gone

also the second you get assailant knives become pretty much as effective in melee

[rotund obsidian]

Okay, so you prefer knives. that's okay, we all have preferences.

[quartz socket]

your loss if you're spending 150 on a spear every game lmao. they're comprable (although I consider knives more versatile) and one costs 5x as much

[rotund obsidian]

Knives have been my pve tool of choice for ages but I've been on a melee attachment kick so I only used them for the first half of the event.

I still think spear is really good, though.

[quartz socket]

if you have another melee weapon that is actually decent against hunters, bringing spear is more reasonable as the cost to losing it is minor, I agree

I, however, usually just bring throwing knives and nothing else and in that scenario they are way stronger

[unborn dagger]

@coarse epoch That would be great, unfortunately it just can't happen with Crytek's performance on this game(It is terrible). That's why they included Witness.

[coarse epoch]

I assume you speak of the bodies on the floor. I figure that would the issue but still something I hope they keep on the radar or find a medium that isn't driven by a perk. Being able to follow footsteps, or trails, to me, brings realism into the game that it's "audienced" to.

[unborn dagger]

100% with you and something I wanted to happen with the engine upgrade, but Crytek is still encountering issues and making new ones.

[coarse epoch]

True. They have a lot of coding to work on. Sucks to fix things and somehow break a bunch of other things.

[unborn dagger]

Exactly, just boggles my mind how a developer who has worked with this engine for so long still fixes less bugs than making new ones

[median zephyr]

does anyone have the link to where they talk about the lawson update from reddit? i cant seem to find it

[iron trench]

I agree with you... that's why i'm only pointing one problem... for sure there is much to do, a game like Hunt, that releases new guns every time will always have problems with balancing.
But for me - a guy that played many FPS - Hunt now is my favorite FPS at the moment, and a game i somehow helped to improve by sending my feedback and game ideas (i tell this because many ideas i sent here were implemented and i never seen a company doing this), jumpshots only fits extremely forfun games, in a game with so many sweatlords like this it just become a source of stress and frustration, because 2, 3 and 4 stars don't do it, only the sweaties, and when they do they abuse it... and it is disgusting, and i'm saying jumpshots is ONLY a problem with precise guns like pistols, revolvers and rifles, i feel fine seeing people jumpshooting with shotguns (buckshot and flechette, not slugs), crossbows, bows, bomblances because they have different mechanics...

I give you one similar example... Avtomats were a problems for years in higher mmr lobbies.. Crytek for a long time said: "It's not a problem... only a few people use it", i'm pretty sure i remember Dennis saying something like that... and YES.. only a few people use... the veterans, the 6 stars that know how to play the game for real; they fixed the problem a little bit, and now is rare to see avtos and that's extremely good and makes the game experience more fair and enjoyable; i even stopped playing hunt for like 4 or 5 months once because of avtomats every single game.
I'm not asking to "fix all the problems", that's impossible.

And sorry for typing that much.. but i'm pretty sure that's a bug, because we didn't have that before... jumpshots were always inaccurate.

[west grail]

Please add customizable colors for outlines!!

JUST LOOK HOW COOL IT LOOKS!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1309568623790129212/1311526416663445576/image.png?ex=67492da8&is=6747dc28&hm=253f8799a9104354fe70fb08d59f63a871fdbf292167ece0c6703ead49baec78&

[carmine needle]

@vernal plank I'll suggest bug forums, makes a lot of sense to me

tho to be fair, likely most folks wont read that the bug has been noted

[hot vigil]

Knowing Crytek, they'll charge us 50BB for it :V

[vernal plank]

yeah but it also could be a way to kinda officially adress a bug. i think forums are perfect for topics like this^^

[carmine needle]

I doubt it will get officially addressed- folks who are trying to get them fixed are unlikely to come in and comment but could def unclog some of the duplicates in bug report

I also am a fan of being able to find stuff easily cause all similar stuff is stored in the same spot

[wispy lion]

#game-ideas message @novel solar you have the best suggestions, and this gun would be perfect for april fools :DDDD

[vernal plank]

this and maybe different ppl could share different ways they encountered a bug and it could be easier to find a way to fix it.
but also needs more maintainance if you want to delete fixed bugs etc

[novel solar]

whenever i make a real argumented suggestion people hate it but once i make an absurd meme one suddenly everyone want it... idk whats going on at this point

[wispy lion]

yeah tru, and sometimes when you give a good suggestion, ite gets downvoted, and then someone else posts exactly the same suggestion with different wording and it gets upvoted

[worn pollen]

thats why the devs need to ignore this st*pid community 🙂 no hate

(plot twist: it was hate)

Reason: @wispy lion just showed, that the "opinion" of the community depends not on the content, but on the time of day and the presentation of the content (e.g. in a meme)

[opaque cedar]

Absolutely not. There's a reason there's less players than pre 1896 update. And it's because they ignore and don't listen to the community. Presentation means nothing if your game is slop.

[worn pollen]

you completely misunderstood me. PRESENTATION of IDEAS. (somebody presents a bad idea good -> community loves it. somebody else suggests a WAY BETTER idea, but with not so good presentation -> community hates it) you need to xxtryxxharderxx

(no offense)

lol

[opaque cedar]

My username is from 2012 and not to be taken seriously lol, I'm the complete opposite nowadays.

I get you, I thought it was just a generalized statement. I'm just super frustrated at the lack of tangible "fixes" in months.

And the constant push push push more consume consume consume mentality.

[worn pollen]

xD keep it! mine is about that old (im not a dad, but dont tell anyone)

totally agree. Crytek (sadly for us) become so big, that theyre seemingly going full-commercial and only putting in work, where its assured to yield money... even if it means, changing 90% of the game...

[opaque cedar]

They definitely need to hire a data analyst if they don't see their games population dying because of inaction then lol

[worn pollen]

idk... they could gain a few thousand constant players if they made the game more like COD (not a nieche game). so i hope theyre not purely aiming for player counts.

[novel solar]

it seems like you need to use 2 words in 1 sentence at most otherwise most people don't understand what the idea is about

or even better - just post picture

it actually fucking worked which proves my point

[opaque cedar]

It's a metric and they've obviously catered to that demographic an intense amount of late.

Genuinely believe that the only thing keeping the games population consistently above 10k is the FOMO events which are already intensely anticonsumer as it is.

Having to buy something just to have to play to be able to unlock something is crazy.

[novel solar]

they could keep a quarter of player base if they optimize the game or even better - did not change the engine for no reason

gameplay wise only thing that new engine did - dropped everyones fps

[wispy lion]

yeah also games kept crashing, and ui bugged the hell out.

we crashed the whole server with my hunt buddies by spamming 40 fusees to same spot

[novel solar]

i'm not mentioning that since it was never meant to happen at first place. i'm solid 1000% sure they did not open game a single time before releasing update

[worn pollen]

well then you provoked it xDD gotta try that...

[novel solar]

we once crashed someone by using romero alamo with starshells

he was begging for mercy

[worn pollen]

ahhh yes, i preferred 2x dual lemat with starshells :p

[novel solar]

romero is better for the meme sake

[novel solar]

but secondary is lemat or uppermat with starshells too tho

• flaregun

[granite ruin]

i love EU servers

[crystal plume]

@fathom gust Hey just letting you know that your post in #game-ideas would be a better fit for #feedback , I'll give you some time to move it yourself instead of removing it so that you can copy the text

[fathom gust]

@crystal plumethx

[cobalt veldt]

there should be option to remain in random team if all three members wanna continue as a team

why not?

[hasty oasis]

Crashing randomly when firing a gun now. Stop making skins and do something constructive with the time.

#garbage

[neon bloom]

There should also be an option to remain in your premade trio after leaving a match 🤣

[timid remnant]

That's a great idea honestly

[visual fjord]

is the pointman really shooting at 390ms??

[median zephyr]

as far as i can tell yes, however obv with the distances being broken, its harder to test, even if i could use a spyglass in a normal game with video editing

distances being broken in the shooting range*

[visual fjord]

I was hoping theyd adress some of the bugs I guess adding post malone into hunt has their hands ties

[median zephyr]

they have been working on the really gamebreaking bugs, like cursor bug and crashes, theyre not doing nothing theyre just slower then most people would like

[glass rain]

"We won't become fortnite" was what they said adding Ghostface.. now Malone is sponsoring events and possibly being a character? Jeeze man why you guys go and ruin a great unique atmosphere, for pop culture and clickbait tactics? It's sorely disappointing to describe it nicely.

[craggy wave]

where tf is restoration😡

[hot vigil]

They are event mechanics

[median zephyr]

Yea, no event rn, no sealed horde, no pact traits or sealed rewards

[autumn spindle]

so why the fuck is revivebolt in this game??

Lets get that removed for 2.2 yeah, cool nice one

[grave iris]

The revive bolt should be considered as a bad addition to the game. Especially in its current shape and form.

[hot vigil]

Just wild to me they shipped it with 4 shots

Like, 2 shots would still have been good

[quartz socket]

just give them a ~3 second delay before the hunter gets up

the problem isn't the amount its that you can't react to them

[median zephyr]

even with a 3 second you cant react, barring some animation/noise, revive bolts just feel like garbage to fight, even though you can absolutely just shoot them again most of the time, seeing nobody on a body, knowing necro hasnt had time yet, and still having to stare at it just sucks

the worst part is its one of the most asked for custom ammos by the community, along with things like a hive bolt, and a few other things im forgetting, we literally asked for this

[turbid sail]

why take away the only counter play to explosive bolt that shit is stupid as hell.

[white plover]

What did they take away?

[median zephyr]

theyre probably talking about bomb lance normal ammo no longer getting full countered by bullwark

[white plover]

Oh strange, I was assuming they meant explosive crossbow but that doesn't make

So definitely possible

[median zephyr]

obv just a guess, but one thing ive learned is most people dont word stuff well, but ive also learned most people dont know mechanics, so maybe they think bullwark no longer works on any weapon who knows

[white plover]

@wild obsidian one of the downside of incen ammo is it's lack of penentration and it can be countered by a trait (at least for the first shot)

@rigid path I would recommend sorting your traits by bloodline rank, while it doesn't prevent the traits from not being in the exact same spot, it keeps them in the same order consistently

[quartz socket]

you do realize direct hitting someone with a bomb lance shot is like one of the hardest ways to kill people right????

[unborn dagger]

^

It's not that easy to directly hit someone with that

[turbid sail]

Not talking bout the lance talking bout explosive crossbow

[quick dragon]

@loud hamlet @grave iris @past granite you guys enjoy winning a team fight but missing bars then? I.e got tagged with dragons breath but didn't die and ended up beating the enemy.

Wanna talk about it? - just cause I see you've down voted my suggestion and I'm interested in your reasons or thinking as to why

[median zephyr]

what got removed as the counter to explosive crossbow?

[median zephyr]

#feedback message PSA: if you change the overall lighting quality, and change it back, it may fix this

[median zephyr]

couple things that are good and bad about it, 1. fire ammo isnt super strong, but is also not fun to fight, IE a romero with dragons breath just kinda maming you instead of killing you. and 2. making it dependant on the in game medkit is a very unfun idea, yes i know there is gaurenteed spawns, but just like how you hate being hit and losing something, imagine being hit once by a mosin, theres no medkits around, and now youre a one tap for the whole fight, i agree its unfun but i think theres some bad parts to the idea

[quick dragon]

I think you've misunderstood me, and maybe I can edit the post. I mean that any time that current state burning would happen, instead its replaced with the charcoal health effect.

So if as you say its a mosin it would act the same.

The difference would be only that your bar isnt removed by being burned and in need of a banish, instead you only need to find a health pack to turn the bars red again.

Right now I just think it sucks to win the fight, but now you're punished and either will leave the match from missing health chunks or will need to get a risky banish.

So if you have a 50 bar, and you burn 25 it can still slowly recover like normal. But if you burn your 50 bar off, you can restore that black 50 with a health pack and a banish. instead of just needing a banish

I'm thinking this only applies when youre still alive and standing, if you die and get burned keep that as it is.

This way if you trade blows with fire ammo, but ultimately your team comes out on top. You aren't punished with missing chunks for winning the engagement with 0 deaths.

[hot vigil]

What makes you think that med-kits are a low pick item?

[quick dragon]

I've never met anyone who brings them, and I've never seen them placed by enemy teams.

Even if they arent low pick, It's still a nice way to make them more useful for people who bring as well as giving more potential incentive for those that don't

[hot vigil]

Aaaaah you talking about the deployable medkits.
Yeah they ain't great, simply a worse medkit in many regards.

[quick dragon]

Yeah that's right I think that to give them some extra utility, if burning bars only blacked them out instead of removing them. Then we could allow people to restore those blackened bars with deployable health packs found at supply, or consumable versions you bring in yourself

The main crux of my feedback is like if you fight and win vs fire ammo... sometimes you've "lost" anyway because now you're down 25+ and no one wants to be one shot for the next fight

it's like don't punish people who win the engagement, for something not that avoidable "being hit in a fight"

[hot vigil]

Eh, the point of charred bars is that they cannot be healed away.
If they could, the deployable medkit would still not be better than a normal medkit.

[quick dragon]

Yeah its a suggested change, I know the current state of the game

I'm suggesting that instead of losing 25 hp+ and needing a banish after being hit with fire ammo, instead you walk away with a charred bar

would be better, because for the duration of the fight, you're still weakened by fire ammo.

But If you win, you can now find a supply and repair the charred bars, in order to continue the match

I have literally hit teams with a couple of fire bolts and had them flee to extract... no one wants that surely? haha

[hot vigil]

For me the most important thing about mechanics in Hunt is consistency, so I don't like the idea that deployable medkits can do something that normal medkits cant.
More so, this change would just force a meta where your tool slot also now needs a medkit as it is too good to pass up.

[quick dragon]

Well not really, unless everyone brings fire ammo?

[hot vigil]

The situational value is simply too strong at worst it is a full heal at best it negates a whole ammo type.

Same issue that flares/fuses have currently

[quick dragon]

If you die, lose a bar

If you die and they burn your body, lose more bars

If you are hit with fire ammo and set ablaze.... get your bars charred

[quick dragon]

Poison ammo and antidote?

Bloodless and bleed?

[hot vigil]

Other bad mechanics doesn't justify adding another

[quick dragon]

How do we fix the problem then?

The problem being I win a fight, but have to leave the lobby cause I got hit and only have 100 hp now?

Banish is gone

even if its not, push the boss lair with 100hp?

If you like that gameplay sure, but I don't so I'm thinking that at the very least going to a supply for a medpack use to regain the charred bars seems a nice middle ground to prevent people from extracting early

[hot vigil]

Well, nerf long ammo damage to sub 125 in general.
Maybe we shouldn't lose bars when we go down.
Make burn harder to prog, less effective range so you need to be a little closer than 40m for a Krag.

[quick dragon]

which is totally fair to the burned team, like congratulations you won the fight... your reward? you're permenantly weakened.

does'nt make sense no?

[quick dragon]

don't lose bars on death? but you said you like the consistency of hunt

I can see we're gonna have to agree to disagree probably dude haha

Thanks for sharing your thoughts though, I was curious what issues people had with the idea

[hot vigil]

Fail to see how that is hitting consistency?
Dying aint the same as burning.

[quick dragon]

I like the aspect of hunt that if someone is killed they are weaker now, I don't like that fire ammo circumvents this by weakening the player that survived the fight

[crystal plume]

If anything imo getting downed should be the ONLY way to lose bars and fire should be reworked to be a temporary max health debuff unless you fully burn out

[quick dragon]

If you win a fight with no deaths, you should not have bars missing now purely because the enemy hit you. Being hit is too central to any fight

[quick dragon]

This is exactly my point. Charred health that could be restorable by using the medkit terminals at supply points. That way fire ammo maintains its value during the fight while its active

But after the fight is over the winning team don't have to limp to extraction

[crystal plume]

Imo the charring should just go over bars and slowly regen with time, salveskin can make it regen faster

[hot vigil]

That is a fair way too.

[hot vigil]

I'll take the charred bars, but I don't want it to be healed with medkits.
Otherwise it would just be a worse bullet than base bullets.

[crystal plume]

I posted this suggestion about it some years ago #game-ideas message

[hot vigil]

And I also fear a lot of passive play

[crystal plume]

Which a lot of people seemed to agree with

[quick dragon]

Nice, my only point was that a good way to allow restoration of those charred bars could be using health packs

[hot vigil]

Again, that would just make health packs a must have.

[quick dragon]

that way you can keep the charred bars as charred, until the player goes to recover them.

Buff to health packs, semi nerf to fire, but you no longer punish winning teams permanently

[quick dragon]

what is wrong with that?

I personally wouldn't bring one with me, I'd rely on supply points

but if someone was really paranoid about fire

sure bring one

[hot vigil]

Rather just have charred bars slight faster passive restore and then salveskin boosting it a little more.

[quick dragon]

I think you make fire ammo too useless then

[hot vigil]

I don't like to force meta like that.
Just don't make it healable as it is rn.
And then slightly increase the speed you un-charr your bar :)

[quick dragon]

What consumables do you bring every match?

slowly recovering char is cool if its not the full bar, but I think being burned enough should have some drawback

not just sit in a bush waiting to slowly recover

go to a supply and recover it there instantly

[hot vigil]

2x Regen, 1x Ammobox and whatever I feel for that round, usually a offensive throwable.

[hot vigil]

How is it different to the 15 second poison?

[quick dragon]

good point

I think because I'm considering the transition from current state it seems more of an inbetween state to have the bars stay charred if they have charred the full 25 or 50

but you're right, you could allow the recovery

[hot vigil]

Again, if the system was like healing 2.5 charred HP per second it would take 10 seconds to heal 25 hp or a small bar.
And on top of that with salveskin it could be 5 charred HP per second.

[quick dragon]

Would be nice to do both, health packs are kinda useless. and at least post burning you give another use for them

[hot vigil]

Healtpacks needs to come in pairs or do something else for them to be strong.
Everyone alread have healing on demand, so it hard to justify healing on dedicated spot, especially when they cannot be picked up again.

[quick dragon]

Because I don't view it as healing, as much as restoring the charred bars

That for me is a worthwhile justification to seek one out

It's better than needing a banish in current state

and wouldn't heal bars from being killed

so its a nice middle ground

[hot vigil]

Again then we are back of it becoming too mandatory in your loadout.

[median zephyr]

ah, the way you worded it, made it sound like char no longer gets removed, and you need a medkit to fix, thats my mistake!

[median zephyr]

i would love this, obv i dont wanna remove burning in full or especially on the ground, but getting hit once with a rival DB when you kill them, so youre mamed forever, feels like trash

[median zephyr]

if it works with world spawn medkits and not just normal deployables that could be good, but buffing deployables in this way i dont like, bc theres no feedback for the enemy, and itd either still be useless/ a must have

[median zephyr]

one point i think would make this less bad that you may have missed, is its not just the deployable medkits, its all in world medkits, so if you wouldve lost a bar, you can go to a cart or something to restore, not saying that makes it good, but its not gonna make the deployable ones a must have

[opaque cedar]

"We don't feel like balancing things so we're gonna make ammo scarce" same fucking mentality as "the cost of weapons is how we balance them" my cheeks bro. Shits lazy

[hot vigil]

Basically

[median zephyr]

i dont think its that lazy, tbh i dont think they can balance these things, what can you do to cenni dumdum for example besides removal (which i wouldve preferred)

[opaque cedar]

It is lazy. You can always balance things, but crytek takes the route of "the less we touch stuff the better" 99.9% of the time.

[median zephyr]

i dont think you can always balance things, like i said cenni dumdum, besides an entire rework to mechanics what can you do? make it light bleed?

this ammo type, with how the cenni was designed, just will never work unless you change how the cenni works, its like making sparks dumdum, you just cant

[hot vigil]

We already got a minor rework to medium bleed bc of the cenny.
And now we just made the feel bad problem more feel bad

[median zephyr]

wasnt bc of cenny, it was for the drilling, bc they felt it was too weak, and what do you mean the feel bad problem feel more bad?

[hot vigil]

Dum dum got nerfed, not buffed?
And the feel bad problem is the situation where a problematic addition is kept in the game, but there are a lower frequency of it.
The initial nerfs to avto is a prime example, just lowering the ammo without limting the burst or recoil didn't make the avto worse, just created a situation of "oh I was unlucky to face the avto first".
Same issue is there with making dum dum for Cenny scarce, now it becomes a "oh I was unlucky to meet the player that was lucky enough to find the bleed ammo for the Cenny".

[median zephyr]

with tide of shadows? no, it went from medium bleed on medium ammo rifles to heavy, right when the drilling was added

ora are you talking about the most recent one of it not being infinate range

and i agree with the second part, i wish theyd just remove it, but they hate removal

[hot vigil]

Nope that was before, Springy was the prime Bleed gun for a while. Then it Dum Dum got nerfed after people complained about Cenny got it in Devils moon

[median zephyr]

no it 100% wasnt im certain, springy was the ONLY bleed medium rifle, until the drilling

the springy got indirectly buffed from the thing too, cenny dumdum was tide of corruption, one event after

[hot vigil]

Nope, Cenny got bleed during Devils Moon :)

[median zephyr]

https://huntshowdown.fandom.com/wiki/Tide_of_Corruption#Ammo_Types

wiki says tide of corruption

[hot vigil]

Sorry yeah, mb, it was the other infernal pact event mb

[median zephyr]

devils moon was lemat carbine and krag i think?

[hot vigil]

Yeyey

But medium dum dum got nerfed after that

[median zephyr]

but they specifically said the dumdum buff to medium ammo rifles was for the drilling

more recently yes, but it really didnt change much

i frankly wouldnt care that something like springfield gets heavy bleed, thats cool, but cenny and maynard are not fun

[hot vigil]

It never got buffed tho?

What was the buff?

[median zephyr]

dumdum?

medium ammo rifles used to do medium bleed max (in one hit), once the drilling came out, they upped it to heavy

and specifically said it was for the drilling

not that it ONLY applied to the drilling, but that they buffed it because of the drilling coming out

#game-ideas message nobody has 20 dolch fmjs bought, the only people who would have this are just trying to circumvent the change, so i dont see why itd be so bad to get rid of their reserve, although it still wont make it "truely scarce"

[grave iris]

Can anyone argue against this statement?

[tardy rapids]

Give me a bit I'll but 20 fmjs

[median zephyr]

#game-ideas message i get its a bit weird that some guns have dumdum and some will be scarce, but thats because it gives these guns a nieche, like pax having dumdum can kinda be its thing, not to mention most of these were turned scarce bc theyre fast firing guns with dumdum, theyve all been problem childs (besides conversion i cant explain that one)

[rustic timber]

I never really understood why someone would have an issue countering dumdum ammo. They are not OP. They have no pen, slow velocity, light bleeding for everything but close action. Only way I can see it as an issue is if the player doesn't have the capacity to understand when he is bleeding, or if his playstyle is completely open and stationary.

[crystal plume]

They are extremely annoying and oppressive to deal with in many situations

I watched Rachta have to suffer through dealing with 2 guys who had bleed ammo and res bolts, every time he peeked to cover the res they tagged him with bleed so he goes to bandage himself meanwhile they use res bolt

They force you to stop being able to shoot or defend yourself sooner because of you having to bandage compared to just being tagged with no bleed

[tardy rapids]

Regen shots should reduce bleeding ammo to light if you have bloodless

[crystal plume]

They do not need even more strengths to their already almost mandatory status in the meta

[grave iris]

If you have Bloodless the bleeding is reduced to light anyways. Isn't it?

[tardy rapids]

But the funny

[tardy rapids]

No not all bleeding

[crystal plume]

As far as I remember bloodless limits all bleeding to light bleed

[median zephyr]

this has no nuance, a repeating rifle like centennial with heavy bleed 99% of the time, is HUGE pressure, not everything is penetration

bloodless is always light bleeding yes

it never progresses past

but needing a trait to stop something is stupid

[grave iris]

Which is merely a 1.5 dmg per second. And it takes only 2 seconds to stop the bleeding.

[tardy rapids]

I thought crossbow and bow bleed would remain medium no?

[median zephyr]

no

[tardy rapids]

Good to know

[median zephyr]

barring some change i missed, havent tested in a while

bleed is an increadibly strong effect, not everyone can have bloodless always, and on some guns its ok, idm springfield bleed, but some guns, like centennial, maynard, dolch, are very unfun to fight

[tardy rapids]

Bloodless costs 2 points and can be taken on any free hunter

[median zephyr]

its 3 and im aware, lets ignore prestieging entirely, you still have other traits you "need" even just ones that counter custom ammos, salveskin, bullwark, then other ones like doctor, necro, resillience, you cant do them all and "balancing" a gun around a trait is terrible design

[tardy rapids]

It's hunt the trait system exists

Meaning they have to

Bulwark use to counter bomb lance

Thank god it doesn't anymore

[median zephyr]

they absolutely do not, its ok to have traits, but if centennial dumdum is op, but only without bloodless, its terrible design

[tardy rapids]

Now regular bomblance ammo is like shotbolt you die in the foot

While harpoons are crossbow bolts

[tardy rapids]

Fair but bloodless helps balance maynard

[median zephyr]

then maynard is poorly designed, which it is

[tardy rapids]

Goes from 1.5 to 4 second bleed out

[tardy rapids]

All it needs is a hipfire increase

[median zephyr]

its like if they made a gun that one shots at any range, but there is a one point trait that reduces the damage to 1, that gun would be EASILY counterable, but thatd be terrible design

nah, no gun should be one shotting like that with dumdum to the chest, its highly unfun

[tardy rapids]

Shotbolt

Bow

They all one-shot to the chest

I don't see how a gun doing so with a lengthy reload is troublesome lol

That logic doesn't make much sense

Shotguns with slugs oneshot

[median zephyr]

shotbolt and bow are WAY harder to hit, its not a normal projectile, some guns are ok, but maynard is a normal gun that is super easy to kill you at 30

[tardy rapids]

Huh?

Within 30m?

No not really

[median zephyr]

yes easily

at 5 sure no, but theres a lot of range between that

[tardy rapids]

Nah if I seized a chance within 30m

I'll take shotbolt anyday

Over Maynard dum dum

They enough distance to stop the bleeding

[median zephyr]

its not about whats better, its about whats fun for the game, dolch dumdum isnt stronger then dolch fmj, but both are terrible for the game

[tardy rapids]

Agreed

But Maynard dum dum isn't bad for the game

The are plenty of alternatives

[median zephyr]

i disagree, its a normal gun with way too much dmg with heavy bleed, its very unfun

[tardy rapids]

People overexaggeerate how good it is

[median zephyr]

not about how good, its how fun

[tardy rapids]

That's not balancing

That's opinionated

On what someone deems fun

[median zephyr]

yes it is, guns in this game should be as fun and balanced as possible

[tardy rapids]

Huh?

[median zephyr]

yes of course, you do the same thing, we all do

[tardy rapids]

If someone uses dolch fmj

And had fun with it

They find it fun

[median zephyr]

its like the avtomat, isnt op, but is unfun, therefore its bad for the game

[tardy rapids]

But you believe it's unhealthy

They both can never be equal

Balance and fun are never equal

[median zephyr]

doesnt need to be equal, obv im speaking for myself, and not the word of god

[tardy rapids]

Idk with the way you're regarding the Maynard sniper you're expecting this

[median zephyr]

if this is the case nobody may dislike anything, ive seen plenty of people say dolch is balanced, so no discussion of any opinion based things

[tardy rapids]

I don't see how nerfing/removing the ammo type would make it a good weapon

[median zephyr]

that i think its unfun?

[tardy rapids]

I think scarce ammo is unfun

But is it balanced?

Yes

[median zephyr]

it makes some busted things less encountered in theory, but that doesnt nerf the strength of the ammo, just the amount you see it

but now youre stating an opinion just like me

[tardy rapids]

Correct but I'm understanding I can't expect fun to be balanced

If I do expect that always I will never be satisfied

[rustic timber]

You don't remember Phaz that they nerfed it even again with intense bleeding only close? The centannials "pressure" is optimal at close range. At which point it is outshined by so many weapons, that it becomes easy to handle most of the time.

[median zephyr]

then it can be given something else, weapons can just be cool, a neat sniper with high dmg and high velocity is already something

[median zephyr]

its not that close, even 30m is pretty normal engagement distance, its not like 5m only

[tardy rapids]

Spark sniper is literally the better version of that

HV on it matches the regular spark MV

Almost

[median zephyr]

id rather something be fun then balanced, unfun things are much less fun to fight then stronger things for me, id rather die to 100 mosins then 1 avtomat

[tardy rapids]

And spark is long ammo

And is only 11 dollars more

Removing dum dum off of the weapon

Removes it's uniqueness

It becomes a worse medium spark

That needs HV to match the spark MV

[median zephyr]

660 is way better then 533, and medium ammo has less drop, it does SOMETHING

[tardy rapids]

Spark is long ammo

[median zephyr]

and it having dumdum removes the springfields uniqueness, it already has a base variant scope, and HV, it has other things

[median zephyr]

yes, which drops worse

[tardy rapids]

Still zero incentive to take it over a spark sniper

The dum dum adds uniqueness

[rustic timber]

The cent was very rare to meet before dumdum. I think part of the popularity was that you could slow the fight down a bit. Making a slow team, cooperate better. I rarely have seen anyone die to the actual bleed out

[median zephyr]

if by 0 you mean a few the sure, but the fact is has some things means it has something, just not something you personally like

[tardy rapids]

Look at few is fine

But 11$ difference for a few changes

Means nothing

Why take a longer reload medium ammo sniper

When I can have a long ammo 149 damage sniper

[median zephyr]

you dont die to the bleed, you die to being pushed and the pressure of it, and centennial base is good, people just play long ammo instead

[tardy rapids]

Or better yet

Just use spark iron sight poison ammo

And have a choke bomb

Kill them through a wall

Maynard dum dum isn't op

However I have come across a really nice idea

They should reduce dum dum total ammo pool

It matches regular ammo why idk

[median zephyr]

because the alternative has higer MV and less drop, yes 11$ is nothing, but its personal preference which is better, for sniping headshots the maynard actually wins out, for dmg and being long ammo closer the sparks will do better

[rustic timber]

And why shouldn't push be a thing in this game.

[tardy rapids]

Nah spark still wins

It beats it in many categories

Including having ironsight

[median zephyr]

you can push with normal ammo, never said you couldnt, even some dumdums are cool, its that cenni in particular is very unfun

[tardy rapids]

Or a silenced version

Maynard without dum dum is just not good

[median zephyr]

the silenced sparks is unique yes, and if you want irons sure, they do different things

its perfectly good, its just not as good as the dumdum, its a normal weapon not some cheese cannon

[tardy rapids]

You overglorify the Maynard

[median zephyr]

you underglorify it

[tardy rapids]

I don't

I want a nerf for it

Not removed from a weapon

I have suggested two ideas

Reduce total ammo pool

[median zephyr]

even in situations the sparks is objectively worse you still say sparks is better, you dont give it enough credit as a weapon

[tardy rapids]

Or increase hipfire spread

[median zephyr]

i havent even said maynard is op, or better then sparks, just that it isnt only unique due to the dumdum, and does a few things better then sparks, and some worse

[rustic timber]

I don't think it is even op. I don't want a nerf for it. They even removed intense bleeding from distance. What more handhelding do people need?

[tardy rapids]

What I'm saying is

[median zephyr]

the distance is far, bleed is strong closer not at sniping ranges

[tardy rapids]

Do you want the dum dum removed or nerfed?

[median zephyr]

id be ok with a nerf, but they likely wont do that, they likely wont do either, but its current state is unfun, maybe not op, but unfun

[tardy rapids]

Jesus christ this conversation taken out of context would be hilarious

[tardy rapids]

So then we agree

Because they ain't gonna remove it either

Or make it scarce

They should nerf it

[median zephyr]

no they dont remove anything, its not the crytek way

[tardy rapids]

So then let's come up with ideas

To make it fun to vs

[rustic timber]

Consider we paid blood bonds to have access to it during av event, i should say so.

[tardy rapids]

You seem experienced in hunt

Use your vast knowledge to come up with nerf ideas

[median zephyr]

it has multiple issues, at best it still steps on springfields toes, but its main problem is its too high in dmg with too much bleed

[tardy rapids]

So would light bleed make it more fun?

[median zephyr]

the sniper scope isnt that hard to use close, and at worst, its hipfire is really tight so even low skill players can use that

[median zephyr]

probably, but i feel like itd kinda suck with only light bleed

[rustic timber]

They won't like that either. The issue for them is being pushed while bleeding

[median zephyr]

not to mention that itd be weird to explain why this rifle is light and others are heavy

[rustic timber]

Okey.. what about different bleed to different limb you hit?

[median zephyr]

thats already a thing on some weapons

the system is weird, its just on rifles the things almost never come into effect, its mostly noticable on pistols

[rustic timber]

Like I said.. the popularity of it is the push oppertunity. I wouldn't mind cent getting a special version of dumdum, called.. something else. That gives light bleed, but also retains the same pen regular ammo medium has.

[median zephyr]

that could be interesting, but thats basically a whole rework, problem is even light bleed passes the dmg threshold of 125, making it one tap a downed hunter

but would def help in the pressure of each hit

in universe itd probably be shredder ammo, thats how they typically do it

[rustic timber]

If they go for shredder ammo, I get to keep the velocity aswell. Then I am all in! 😉

[median zephyr]

problem is we dont want it to be a direct upgrade, so if it keeps all pen, all velocity, and light bleed, thats just better ammo

we gotta give it a little downside somewhere

either velocity or some pen loss, idk which is better

but at least this is more interesting then "i just tag you heavy bleed" on a gun thats main downside was it doesnt do 125

[tardy rapids]

Fair which is why we brainstorm to come up with a nice solution than post it in game idea. They read that channel

Personally I wouldn't mind if higher hitting weapons had less ammo pools for op ammo types

[median zephyr]

its just hard to balance, and no matter what i do i feel like it steps on springfields toes, im ok with single shots (besides obv sparks) having dumdum, its just a kill in just over a second is too much

[tardy rapids]

Like dum dum on maynard should give you like 13 ammo

even with both

[rustic timber]

But I will just alert that most of the time, you get 6 in damage from bleed by cent. I get hit by that a ton, and rarely dies by that. Maybe my consumebals just handles push better, but it has not been an issue for me.

[tardy rapids]

Steel ball is balanced by only getting like 8 shots

and has a lengthy reload

[median zephyr]

its an idea, but i feel like balancing by ammo amount doesnt stop its unfun amount, its just as sad to die to, its kinda like giving it the nitro treatment

[tardy rapids]

True but removing it just makes the maynard sniper not unique

Which imo sucks

I love the fact it has dum dum

[median zephyr]

i dont die to it much either, its more that its not fun, not that its unwinnbale

[tardy rapids]

It goes from a sniper to a close range shotgun

What if they increased damage fall off?

From 30m to 15m

[median zephyr]

it still does have other stuff, but it having dumdum makes springfield less unique, its kinda no matter what you do it ruins something

[tardy rapids]

Making the dum dum round on maynard effectively a shotgun variant ammo type

While springfield can remain the same as it is now

for a longer range variant

[median zephyr]

id have to test the ranges in game, very hard to tell with just numbers, my main concern is people being so confused on why its dmg dropoff is even less then like nearly every other gun

[tardy rapids]

Currently it's 30m

If it's effective range was like 15 meters

[median zephyr]

i know, but im saying, how 15m would feel like

[tardy rapids]

It would be like shooting a romero

that doesn't one tap

And if they have bloodless

they get 4 seconds to kill you

[median zephyr]

well i doubt it just fizzles at 15, so itd depend on how fast you die at say, 20, 30, etc

[tardy rapids]

I personally still stand by making the bleed medium

and reducing the damage fall off to 15

[tardy rapids]

past 15 it'd start doing 130

120

etc

[rustic timber]

Honestly.. if fmj on cent had a 5 + damage, you would not see dumdum anymore. It needs to be a stable two hitter. Yet they stand so often with 2 hp left.

[tardy rapids]

The dum dum round should be special on the maynard making it a heavy hitting ammo type but has drastic fall off

It'd be like steelball on the blance

turns it from a launcher into a shotgun

except this is for a sniper

[median zephyr]

this is a kinda cool idea, like if you get pushed

it just needs to not be just over a second death at 30m, bc i feel like thats way too far

[tardy rapids]

I think dum dum rounds should've been like hollow point

it gives you more bleeding at closer range or something

[median zephyr]

maybe, for better players probably as then they can 1 tap a downed and have pen, but a lot of people use it bc bleed destroys lower skill players

[median zephyr]

this does happen, its just that for rifles the range is so far nobody ever notices

[tardy rapids]

Honestly wouldn't mind dum dum rounds being rewritten as a close range type of ammo type exclusively

giving guns a closer range option

No one pushes with dum dum past like 40m anyway

[median zephyr]

i agree in theory, however i think springfield bleed is fine, even if it has some range i never feel cheated dying to springfield bleed

[tardy rapids]

Agreed

Some variants should remain the same

but with larger weapons it should be the closer you are the more bleed

because they have such high damage numbers or the ability to fan/lever

[rustic timber]

With double ranged shotguns, fast fire rate weapons, and melee weapons small slot.. I don't see what good that would do.

[median zephyr]

like theres a couple lazy fixes to fix maynard bleed, make it light bleed, lower dmg to springfield or slightly more, but these feel lazy

[tardy rapids]

But making the damage drop off to like 10 to 15m on the maynard

makes it effectively a HV sniper with a close range option

it'll be like a lemat sniper

making it more unique than the spark sniper

[median zephyr]

genuinely think this is a cool idea, id have to test ranges in practice, but the theory is this is cool at least

[tardy rapids]

Yes

It also makes the gun fun

Theory crafting is more fun than complaining imo

[median zephyr]

bc if it kills in just over a second really close, i dont really care

[tardy rapids]

^^^Because shotguns,bows, etc exist already

which are better options overall

[median zephyr]

gotta reload the right bullet not just switch a button like lemat, so you have to plan to push

[tardy rapids]

Correct

Fuck it Ima add it as an idea

[median zephyr]

if you get the numbers right you have my vote

[tardy rapids]

Ima say 10 to 15m for now

Give or take can be tweaked

[median zephyr]

its your idea, dont let me sway you

[tardy rapids]

that way it's shotgun effective range

Aight suggested it

[median zephyr]

idk about exact ranges, id have to test how much dmg it does at range, but i think the theory is good

[tardy rapids]

Exactly why I'm using shotgun ranges

Because it's the best option I can think of currently

[median zephyr]

still think no matter what you do springfield kinda gets left in the dust, but maybe its just time to accept letting it go

[tardy rapids]

Not entirely no

[median zephyr]

100% its not the basically second range im worried about, its the ranges outside of that

[tardy rapids]

Dum dum spring is about to be meta lol

As it's one of the few remaining dum dum round weapons from the scarce changes

Problem is maynard exists still

[median zephyr]

idk about meta, but as it is now maynard does it too

yea exactly

[tardy rapids]

Which is why I want the maynard as a close range option for the ammo type

Even if it wouldn't make sense

It'd be a nice change

[median zephyr]

sometimes you gotta forsake "realism" for gameplay, like irl, you dont heal in a split second from being shot

its for fun, thats what matters

[tardy rapids]

Which is why I prefer if they replaced maynard dum dum with a close range ammo type

I would love not a one tap shotbolt variant on maynard sniper but

something close range

but the dum dum works rn if it's within shotgun range

[median zephyr]

100% its unflexible in the way of having a long reload and single shot (even if a lot of it can be animation cancelled which sucks) but flexible in a way where you have an ammo thats very good close, and another very good at everything else

[tardy rapids]

Which gives variety like how the spark has poison rounds and fmj

[median zephyr]

worst thing is springfield dumdum kinda is just more meh, but works at distance, and its normal ammo or hv is meh, springfield would just be a normal meh gun

[tardy rapids]

poison gives access to cool playstyle/loadouts

but fmj gives the ability to hit through walls

stock ammo for sniping

[median zephyr]

for sure, this would give maynard something, and wouldnt be super unfun to fight, i just feel bad for springfield

[tardy rapids]

Personally would love to see explosive ammo over incendiary on the spark

[median zephyr]

thatd be sick

[tardy rapids]

because the spark pistol would finally be another secondary

with explosive ammo over the uppercut

No idea why it has incendiary over explosive ammo

[median zephyr]

for sure, itd just be an ammo dump for mako

[tardy rapids]

when martini henry has both

[median zephyr]

just bc its better, idk how they decide custom ammos

[tardy rapids]

^^^

I prefer custom ammo providing playstyles

over being straight upgrades

[median zephyr]

i know however they do it, recently its been bad choices

[tardy rapids]

Custom ammo should always be sidegrades

[median zephyr]

oh 100% it should never just be better

like old HV/fmj

[tardy rapids]

I love how they did the bomblance

[tardy rapids]

Fuck yes

Shotbolt imo also could use tweaking but not game changing

I would rather more unique ammo types on the crossbow

[median zephyr]

bomb lance has some cool stuff, i just wish more people ran cool stuff instead of the same 2 things

but thats meta for you

[tardy rapids]

I typically run harpoons and steel ball on the bomb launcher

with a nagant dead eye

I keep my loadouts below 150

[median zephyr]

any unique fun ammos im always for, people always suggest bee bolts on crossbow

[tardy rapids]

or 3 clue budget

[median zephyr]

thats a fun laodout, dont see much of that usually

[tardy rapids]

That or I use

Poison arrow with concertina

and pain sense my beloved

romero hatchet with dragon breath

Eyetaker matches the romero hatchet terminator skin

[median zephyr]

its fun to see people run medium slot loadouts, makes the game more fun

hell yea

[tardy rapids]

One sec I'll show a fun loadout I run

I hit shots with the caldwell new army

[median zephyr]

the big wallbang build

[tardy rapids]

Pain sense them and shootem with the fmj spark

[median zephyr]

this is fun as hell

wish more people did stuff like this

you seem like the kind of person whod enjoy a romero handcannon DB and bow with poison arrows

[median zephyr]

you hit people with both and they get trinity of pain

[tardy rapids]

I love this

So much

[median zephyr]

DB lemat carbine my beloved

its ok they didnt buff you i still love you

[tardy rapids]

I use this often when in bounty clash

I wait for people to go into a room

Close it off with the poison crossbow

And then just spam dragon breath into the room with fire rounds

[median zephyr]

the fire room

[tardy rapids]

Alert tripes mines are very fun

I have also learned

blank fire decoys can set off alert trip mine traps

[median zephyr]

for sure, most stuff do

[tardy rapids]

I still have no idea why blank fire decoys cost 45$

[median zephyr]

bc reasons :)

[tardy rapids]

when decoy fuses are 30

[median zephyr]

look

if you ask yourself why x thing costs this and x thing costs x in this game youll go crazy

same with looking at bloodline unlocks, none of it makes sense

[tardy rapids]

Trust me I already have

[median zephyr]

i feel bad for your soul

[tardy rapids]

For 250 hours of hunt'

I had no idea you could equip contraband on legendary hunters

I have 1500+ hours now on hunt

But me consistenly playing 250h since august 15th

I had zero clue you could put contraband on legendary hunters

so this would be my loadout whenever I wanted to use a skin

Heavy knife + medkit total was 150

[median zephyr]

thats really funny, youre like "damn i really wanna use that gun but i want my legendary hunter :("

[tardy rapids]

Essentially yes

I had zero clue you could take off equipment and guns from free hunters and put them on legendary hunters

So I would run around with a knife steal a dude's loadout

then leave

💀

[median zephyr]

youd get a kill with it or find a body?

[tardy rapids]

With the knife

[median zephyr]

bc if you were just getting heavy knife kills my god whats going on

thats insaine

[tardy rapids]

I have found 30 different hiding spots

in a lot of compounds that people do not check

[median zephyr]

playing hunt like tarkov

[tardy rapids]

yes

[median zephyr]

hatchling round

[tardy rapids]

I have bought 3 heavy knife skins

because I was solely using it for a while

[median zephyr]

yknow i mean hey, makes for good storys

[tardy rapids]

[median zephyr]

heavy knife users are based

[tardy rapids]

I now typically take free hunters

and run 150$ budget loadouts

Bomblauncher + nagant deadeye

Lemat carbine + hand crossbow

Bow + romero hatchet handcanon

And my favorite

for a while was springfield deadeye + romero handcanon

[median zephyr]

you run fun stuff, youre probably pretty happy with the handcannon buff!

[tardy rapids]

Fuck yes

[median zephyr]

you remind me of me when i played a long time ago

[tardy rapids]

I do this for a lot of games

Especially if they have crossbow or bows

I typically don't play cod until the second or third season until they release a form of bow 💀

[median zephyr]

me too, crossbow is one of my favorite weapons, with lemat carbine and vetterli silencer

honestly, based

bow only

[tardy rapids]

I use to spam the nagant silencer a lot

until they increased the price

now I typically run this loadout also

[median zephyr]

youre saying one of the worst pistols doesnt deserve to be almost the cost of an officer?? woah

[median zephyr]

thats a chad loadout

hitman loadout

[tardy rapids]

I love running this a lot

[median zephyr]

i used to be disgustingly good at hitting head with nagant silencer, i used to use it all the time

very satisfying

[tardy rapids]

My friends have asked me so many times how I suck at landing shots with a rifle or shotgun

I miss standing still targets but then land shots like this

[median zephyr]

im the exact same way

if someone stands still and crouches i often miss, but ill hit the dumbest shots with a crossbow at range

fun tip, at 87m, if you line the head up with the notch, itll hit the head

[tardy rapids]

good to know

I kinda just learnt to aim bows/crossbows

from chivlary 1

Put over 4k hours into that

[median zephyr]

weird to see that skill transfer over, but hey! thats still pretty cool!

[tardy rapids]

Try chivlary 2 heavy bow/crossbow shooting

It's roughly the same as hunt

Both travel time and drop

[median zephyr]

i used to love chivalry, i just never really connected the dots

[tardy rapids]

More than fair

I felt the same with mordhau

[median zephyr]

played 1, 2, and mordhau, just like those kinda games, however i have nowhere near as much time in them as hunt

hell yea

[tardy rapids]

I wish I got into hunt more ages ago

Now I'm dropping 100s of hours within weeks

I was on and off since 2021

[median zephyr]

sucks to come a little late, but hey, at least you didnt miss the engine upgrade!

[tardy rapids]

Fair fair

[pulsar loom]

I think there should be rewards for reaching high mmr and fighting with higher mmr bounties

[median zephyr]

i dont think there should be any incentive to be any mmr, we have enough sweat lords as it is

if anything should be incentivised its playing the game with fun and interesting loadouts

[quartz socket]

for the love of god can people stop complaining about maynard sniper???? I bet everyone who's complained about it on the server can count on 1 hand the number of times they've actually gotten 1-shotted by it at full health lmao

also how is conversion dum-dum being made scarce but not crown slugs??

[frail dagger]

why the fuck old maps are not integrated in hunt

crytek pls answer me. nothing wrong with how they are implemented. just put them backl

[median zephyr]

theyre being reworked for the new engine, cant put something in when it doesnt exist

[frail dagger]

actually they can because old maps existed.

baoyo was old map too yet they implement it in 3 seconds?

[median zephyr]

i... dont think you understand how making games work, it was over one month, and they were working on it before then. these maps need to be remade in the new engine, they arent currently done

[unborn sandal]

Lawson will be back in a few weeks

hopefully desalle shortly after the next event ends

[rustic timber]

Calm down there.. They are not starting from scratch, handplacing each 3D model back into the level. That they are adding new light sources, and more models, because the new engine can handle it, is not "remaking" the map. They are simply updating it. And I do think they are perhaps feed dripping it a tiny bit aswell, to give the illusion we are getting new stuff for events. We shall see how much they have added. But it makes sense to me that the new maps could have been added realtively soon after the engine update. But if you want it to be "fuller" because you can, then you can now add stuff from the new map, into the old one. Which seems to be the case with Stillwater.

[median zephyr]

i know its not fully remaking it, but theyre saying "its in the old game just put it in" which is just not how it works. especially bc theyre reworking compounds, i stand by what i said, sure maybe it couldve been done faster, depends on how much resources and progress was tword the engine update, but i know its not just as easy as "just have it all added"

[sonic goblet]

Anyone else think the in game economy sucks rn?

[rustic timber]

It is their priority.. They could have added the old once, unchanged by the new engine other then dlss, antialiasing, light and shadow, and paralex textures. Which the engine does for them. They just choose that it was better to hang on to it, until they could "put it on the same level as the new one". That is a decision. I am okei with people disagreeing about it. Because they could have just had the old once, and updated it at a later time. They did not want that.. Fair enough. But some fans are gonna miss them, and feel it take way to long. That was a choice, and they stand by it. They wanted to polish their maps, and "re-publish it" to get people back into the game. Probably learned it from that tough break they had between DeSalle and Colerado map, where the player numbers went pretty low. A marketing strategy, that I am personally okey with.

[raven kindle]

The lack of pledgisters does mean I'm taking considerably less expensive gear than I was during the event.

[rustic timber]

Depends what you mean.. I have 500k +.. It is still easy to earn money. Is that the issue?

[sonic goblet]

not so much just that but even getting 8+ kills with vulture barely brings home enough money to cover one matches worth of equipment...

[raven kindle]

You must be running pricey gear.

[rustic timber]

Agreed.. I think I run around 600 dollars pr match. What do you use?

[raven kindle]

Bow / sparks, and I leave two consumables empty to pick up in match. So my total is ~350

[median zephyr]

has for a long time sadly

[sonic goblet]

Bow - double pistol or even one scoped weapon with a cheap melee

[median zephyr]

im fine with disagreeing too, but they came in here bascialy going "why are there no old maps theyre done and youre dumb for not having them in, you did the other one in 3 seconds" which just shows ignorance

[raven kindle]

I think it's fairly likely that the new graphics engine requires some level of work in terms of shaders and materials for all items, especially foliage. I highly doubt that they could just drop old objects into the game and just have them work.

It's really unlikely.

[raven kindle]

👍 for another bow enjoyer

[sonic goblet]

ty - If I add any type of special ammo or anything to it though it ends up costing me like $500 per match and the game gives back like 300 lmao

[rustic timber]

Well.. if you go the shooting range, you will se a not updated version of the map, inside the new engine game. It would basicly have just been that.

[raven kindle]

I expect that they did that work on the shooting range compounds.

[rustic timber]

I can understand why you would expect it. But they have not..

[raven kindle]

No, I mean 'the work of updating the models'.

And materials etc.

I don't think that this is a really large amount of work, to be clear - my personal belief is that Hunt is running on a skeleton crew right now, and almost all their developers have been nicked by the Crysis team.

They have an art team for skins, and a few developers part time - but everyone else is on the other project.

[rustic timber]

Not according to what they have been hiring, and which studio is doing what. Frankfurt being the one with Hunt. But sure.. have personal beliefs to why. I do that aswell, when I am guessing they are purposely drip feeding our old maps, to have something new for each event. But that is because some of the events has been lacklustered to say the least, and I understand why they would want a bit more "ummpf" when they now have relauched.

[raven kindle]

These days, where you are has a lot less to do with what you work on. I would not be surprised if Hunt is officially 'in Frankfurt' but most of people in that building have been moved to Crysis.

AAA games devour all available resources, especially towards the end of development. It makes sense, from a business perspective, to take Hunt's developers, and put Hunt in maintenance mode until Crysis is out.

That said, I don't think you're wrong that the maps were scheduled to be released over time as a way of extracting maximum value from existing content. They definitely did that.

[rare plank]

So no more NA West servers??

[rustic timber]

Seems like east and west if comming togheter.. LA vs NY..

[jagged wagon]

@fathom gust Nice copy and paste of my Reddit post, sincere form of flattery I guess.

[grave iris]

@stray condor Are people adjusting vertical and horizontal sensitivity on PC?

[stray condor]

I dont quite understand the question, could you please give it more detail to the context, thank you

[grave iris]

In PC FPS gaming is it common that players adjusting their vertical and horizontal sensitivity separately if there is an option for it?
Why would you do that?

[stray condor]

There is not for a PC only overall/both

If you are asking for Hunt, others games that I play, I dont know about the others, I have my vertical x3 then my horizontal

[knotty fractal]

ayo guys i got a rx580 8gb gigabyte with an i5 but the game doesn't start like it gets frozen at 9.1% of usage and it just doesn't boot

[sand kiln]

!specs

[marsh garden]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/420219125198225408/1259270473896689806/image.png?ex=668b1285&is=6689c105&hm=a67e1e19c22be21ce6e37282763b1837f9bdadc25cd50a64196c2f43a4c1c791&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1173&height=585

[sand kiln]

Also make sure you CPU has AVX2 support

Without this your game won't boot at all

[knotty fractal]

like, i have i5 5gen

im cooked right?

[sand kiln]

Idk, look if your CPU meets those requeriments

If not, yes

[knotty fractal]

okey dookie

[rustic timber]

It can work. For your amd card - use Radeon™ GPU Profiler to set graphic settings to beyond low, and full performance mode. I have a friend in finland that play with the same proccessor you have. Hunt needs mostly gpu, so you can do it. Provided you turn low as many graphic settings as you can.

[manic dock]

just got back into the game after a few month hiatus, are there any plans to fix the user interface on pc? it's annoying enough that it may actually keep me from playing the game

I've been playing since beta and the ui has never been worse

[median zephyr]

theyre always working on it, depends what you mean by "fix"

[manic dock]

honestly everything from navigating the ui, to something as simple as controls. I think there were many controls on pc that worked perfectly fine and didn't need to be removed. Resetting all the methods of equipping gear and traits was a mistake I believe. Sorting traits by your preference of price or unlock lvl is annoying because it resets everytime i launch the game. That's not even my full list of complaints, my point is simply that for pc, overall the previous UI was much better than the current version. Developers should've just applied the new one to console exclusively if it is in fact an improvement on their end, because i dont think it was for pc. It may look better but it is not as practical

[median zephyr]

i agree that ot has a lot of bad, but being able to sort traits, even if it resets, is just better then before, as you couldnt, but they are constantly making these things work better so hopefully one day itll be less of a pain

[latent geyser]

Once you learn the shortcuts things already gets smoother. And frankly by now we are a few bugs short of having a much more practical and much better looking UI than the previous one.

[median zephyr]

i think some things are better, like hunter recruitment and grid view, and traits, and some things are worse, like the face we dont have an arsenal, and some screens are worse, like the free hunter screen

[latent geyser]

People only want the old UI because they got used to it after years, but this one is just 4 months old and is showing good signs to be better (which is much less than what it took for the previous one). I'll repeat that the old UI wasn't good either, just more polished after many years.

[manic dock]

You're wrong about sorting traits, on the previous version there was a way to sort traits by unlock lvl, price, etc, and it didn't reset your preference every time the game was relaunched

[rustic timber]

The difference is a clean ui vs a full ui. It makes sense that players that enjoy a more focused UI, likes the old one.

[manic dock]

The grid view is for sure better, but the traits were never broken

[median zephyr]

oh 100% i meant more with the grid view, my apologies

the grid view is a huge improvement, and the favoriting thing helps, they just really need to iron out bugs, and polish it more

i wish they just had more hunt vets as testers early, so many frustrations were so obvious early on its just frustrating we need so much QOL

[carmine needle]

I strongly suspect that a lot of it is simply deadlines

Stuff simply wasn't ready and they pushed what they had

Certainly felt that way

[median zephyr]

i wouldnt be suprised, i get theyre live service, and i get the new engine was heavily undertaking, but it couldve been nice to leave old ui until new one was done instead of pushing out a bad one

obv im no dev, idk if it was a "if were changing something so big we have to NOW" or what, i just know the quality of the UI was bad, and still has a lot of pain points

[carmine needle]

Probably but I'm not a dev either. Just going off what it felt like to me. It's getting better, so I'm holding out hope it'll get there

[median zephyr]

im sure it will get there in time, its already leagues better then release just with paperdoll, and sorting being a little better between games, just frustrating is all

[carmine needle]

Ueah

I'd love a 'last load out" buy option

And like, remove the leave group option from the bottom cause I keep leaving my groups

[median zephyr]

that would be nice, theres a lot of things that could be added, both for QOL and fun, like a last loadout, a random legendary recruit, a multiple recruit at once, theres a lot

[rustic timber]

What suprised me the most was console users not liking it. I thought "atleast they are happy".. apperantly not.

[median zephyr]

well it was just lacking a lot of QOL and polish, nobody wins with that

[rustic timber]

Phaz.. btw.. got a third idea you need to downvote. Get right through it! 😉

[median zephyr]

this is... certainly a comment

[rustic timber]

I knew you would defy me somehow! xD

[fading agate]

Make revive bolts scarce

[rustic timber]

Let me help you..
Title: Make revive bolts scarce
Description: They are just to much. OP to be honest.

Copy and paste it in game-ideas. 😉

[mystic ridge]

Bwa

https://tenor.com/view/never-thought-that-id-be-alone-akon-lonely-song-i-never-thought-that-i-will-be-alone-i-never-thought-that-i-will-have-no-one-by-my-side-gif-25363279

Oh this isn't general

[tardy rapids]

Yeah get outta here

[queen jungle]

This game has more bugs than a kitchen that hasn’t been cleaned in 30 years—seriously, it’s a mess! Lobbies are permanently broken, you have to reset the group after every match, the cursor’s on a permanent vacation, ping’s dropping like it's auditioning for a slow-motion film, and the sound? Well, who needs it, right? But hey, at least we’ve got a circus event to look forward to!

[grave iris]

Press ESC, Unplug the mouse, Wait a little bit until the cursor disappears, Plug in the mouse. It temporarily fixes the cursor bug most of the time.

[vocal merlin]

what if i have a wireless mouse?

actually have the cursor bug right now so will test in shooting range

yeah did not work whatsoever. tried by first unplugging the wireless dongle, cursor did not dissapear. then tried using the mouse in wired mode and tried it again, but did not work either.

wait, unplugging both mouse and keyboard did work though.

[spring mason]

any reason why is cant equip this loadout slot?

[vocal merlin]

do the ideas in #game-ideas actually get read at all by the devs, or is it just kinda like a pipe dream discussion board for the community?

[crystal plume]

We've had some suggestion make it into the game

They read through suggestions, feedback, bug reports and such

[vocal merlin]

oh alright, super cool

[grave iris]

Unplug the wireless adapter.

[vocal merlin]

yeah, got it to work by also unplugging the keyboard

[queen jungle]

Yes. Many ideas come from players, including bounty clash, revive bolt, teleportation perk, but they were posted like 1-2 years ago.

The circus compound (event) was an idea that was posted 2 years ago I think. They even suggested a section featuring derailed trains (I would not be surprised if that was included)

There were hunters specified by users that were almost "immediately" included in the game within a few months of suggestion.

[vocal merlin]

well if thats the case then i cant wait for my brilliant idea of hitting hunters over the head with hive bombs to

bee added

[queen jungle]

Well it matters if the team likes the idea. A popular vote may matter. But they want something that works. If they like it, I would imagine they would implement a simplistic design and try it out.

[median zephyr]

#game-ideas message i know you can go into the advanced tutorial (and you should) for at least most AI, not all bosses, but go this would be so nice, you wanna test immolators? well you better only want to test 2 shots because you cant reset them and only 2 spawn

but seeing as the shooting range is still broken, i dont think people who test stuff are high on their priority list

[brazen geyser]

is MMR just turned tf off right now??

3-3-3 vs 5-6-5, 5-5-5, 6-6

this is literally the dumbest lol

[torn quiver]

@small wolf cenny dumdum is more toxic then any single long ammo weapon especially with levering. imo dum dum should be completely removed from the game

[small wolf]

Sounds like something An "I bring long ammo every single game" person would say.

[median zephyr]

its hard to define toxic, but if were talking strength cenny with levering isnt really improved by dumdum, barring you getting like 2 leg hits or some weird thing, unless youre just spamming at range and hoping for rng

[wet gust]

@iron pine really thought you ate 😭

[iron pine]

@wet gust Nextgame idea. Ariana Grande Skin

[tidal grove]

Title: Cheaters
Details: They need to do something about the 6 stars, there are cheaters everywhere. They need to raise the difficulty to 6 like it was before, otherwise we'll find cheaters in many games.

[atomic niche]

@jaunty dagger hey man I saw your bug report. I'm unsure how people are only just noticing this but this has always been the case when going to the store through the game for dlcs. It downloads but you do not have the dlc until you buy it.

[near pawn]

What happened to this game?

• Removed lore book
• Removed per gun class progression
• Removed trials
• Replaced all of that with just xp bars and monetization
• The lobby hub has turned into a mobile game ui
  What happened here exactly? You guys removed what ever depth the game had (it wasn't much to begin with but it was good with what it had) AND THEN completely REMOVED IT.
  Why? Is this some catering to a certain audience thing that secretly doesn't like playing games but have casino brains?

Also hit registration seems to be very off with me just shooting through players and players shooting me around corners. Luckily I use bows now to compensate for the former

[median zephyr]

there is still gun class progression, unless you mean lore book, trials was basically universally hated, the xp is about the same, like i get some points, but some of these dont make sense

[near pawn]

Who hated trials? People who felt the need to complete them bc they had rewards but couldn't bc theyre on controller?

[median zephyr]

most people, youd have to ask around, but everyone thought they were unfun, and a waste of effort to make

most on pc idk where you got the controller thing

[near pawn]

So they were hated bc they were hard?

[median zephyr]

no, i said unfun not hard

[near pawn]

I thought they were great

[median zephyr]

im sorry theyre removed for you then, youre in the minority but it sucks when something you like is gone

[near pawn]

All of that could've been kept in the game without the playerbase being in the negative. All you had to do was not play them lol

Same with the lore book

Just baffling

[median zephyr]

i miss the lore book too, but were again both in the minority, most people dont care about lore, and for trials idk what work they wouldve had to do, but they linked trials to people quitting the game, so i think putting the rewards in progression is better for most people

[near pawn]

They gotta bring both back and make new tabs for them. And make them completely optional with no rewards then

Trials were also great for map knowledge. Most towns aren't worth looting forlike other extraction so you likely don't even get to know them. Trials had some great routes

[median zephyr]

i gaurentee you they wont bring back trials, theyve been adamant about how much players hated it, however i do wish theyd bring back the free roam of maps, that was good for learning them. and i wish theyd bring back lore, but i dont think they care about it anymore, nor do most players

so if i were you i woudlnt hold out hope

[near pawn]

I think they should. Until then I'm not spending a dime

[median zephyr]

enjoy your f2p experience, good luck!

[opal gate]

That ash skin idea is pretty cool

[crystal axle]

I really like it too

[opal gate]

You made it

[crystal axle]

oh

[subtle hemlock]

who is ash?

[opal gate]

From the evil Dead movies

[subtle hemlock]

oh, is that from one of the easter eggs in the game?

[opal gate]

Yeah

[crystal axle]

Yeah it just makes sense right

[opal gate]

Makes more sense than the scream mask

[crystal axle]

For sure

A

Eh

[brazen geyser]

lost my ability to sell inventory while having less than 30$ cause i was goofing. restarted, didnt fix it. id LOVE to play the game but it doesnt wanna be played idk what to say. between that and disconnecting between each and every match, im about to just x-x i swear to god..

[median zephyr]

Forgive me if this doesn't fix it, but if you enter a game and extract it might

I'm usually pretty spot on with bug fixes, but this one is newer so it's not fully lodged in my brain yet

[grave iris]

Some players are unable to sell their items if those items costs more than the total amount of hunt dollars they have.

[opaque cedar]

the fact that the new port sulfur single doesnt have post malone, the dude whos KNOWN for music, screams to me that having this be "Post Malone's Circus" is literally just a tack on for more $ and lacks a very large amount of planning, execution, and rushed, like every other thing Crytek has put out in the past 6 months

like everything except for the graphics update in the past year for Hunt has been ass because theres been horrible comms and will continue being bad for the next "9 months" or whatever they claim their lead time is

which it isnt, it's just an excuse

[wind anvil]

introducing a rarity ammo system while keeping everyones ammo stashes without wiping them and putting everyone on a even playing field is going to be a huge mistake.

[flat sandal]

didn't think about that. So you can stock up on dum dums and fmj before the update?