feedback-discussion

[soft river]

@tulip lily the reason why you can't has already been stated by crytek

it was back when dual wielding was just added

it's about being dedicated to that loadout

[tulip lily]

im a new player what is the reason

oh

[soft river]

if you take 2 pistols

you're dedicated to using those pistols

so you can't switch out in a game

[tulip lily]

well can we atleast pick up singular pistols off dead hunters using dualies

[soft river]

without stealing a single pistol

i mean theres no reason to

you want ammo just take the gun, then take yours back

[tulip lily]

yes there Is

[soft river]

you want the dualies use the dualies

[tulip lily]

if i want his pistol but i dont want both of the pistols

like if he has dual chain pistols or dual bornheims

i dont want the dual pistol

[soft river]

i don't know if crytek said anything about that

but probably for a similar reason

just get quartermaster is all I'm going to say

[tulip lily]

space Isnt my problem But ok

[soft river]

you are abandoning your weapon to use the dualies, yes?

[tulip lily]

my problem is that sometimes there is a pistol i very much like but it is dualies and i just want to pick up one

which doesn't really pose any gameplay issue or change anything

it'd just be nice

like for example i really like the caldwell conversion chain but for some god forsaken reason people use dual chain pistols and that sucks

so if i could just pick up 1 that would be conveninet

[chilly nova]

Not supporting action against it is supporting it, whether you agree with the principle of it or not.

[lean estuary]

This is actually something I think about a lot

[frigid folio]

Tbh smurfing in hunt doesn't really do anything except effect the new accounts KD. With how the MMR system works they will find themselves in the same star bracket as their main account within like 5 games. I bought a second account to play with my friends who were brand new to hunt rather than throwing them in the deep end (only used pistols as a handicap for my game knowledge) but still found myself in the 5-6 star bracket really quickly anyway.

What they need to fix is tanking MMR in quick play for easier lobbies in bounty hunt

[iron trench]

My mistake was to send all ideas together... i already sent them a month or two ago one by one and most of people supported it.. but when i did again later, but now putting all in one thread it went wrong.. 👍

[worthy knoll]

No that is wrong. This is No "With me or against me" Thing.

Also my whole Base of Argument was that you cannot Stop people from buying the Game a second time. Except With total surveiland. Otherwise its their Money, Email Adresses are free and VPNs exist.

The real "solution" lies in what @frigid folio wrote. Quickplay MMR should Not be the Same as Bounty Hunt MMR. This way you cannot Tank it easily.

[karmic ivy]

@unborn gyro
"but everyone from AsiaPac/Oceania decides to play on my server with 150+ ping. The time for hits to register on high ping players takes too long to resolve and trades suck."

I think you might want to look into the stability of the route your data is taking. I play on the same server at the same time and have nothing similar to your experience. Gun fights are great, no unusual delays on hit marks. No trouble hitting enemies and kill trades happen when I expect it (I took the risk knowingly).

From what you say, it sounds like you have an instability with your data. It may be fast on the average, but its not all getting through. If I had to guess. A trace route to the server might tell you something useful. Crytek support can help you with that I hear.

[queen jungle]

A lot of the ideas are good, but I'm not sure Crytek likes big changes in their gameplay formula. Or if they do consider, it will take them a long time to implement those changes.

[royal grove]

Have you considered healing or moving while they reload the crossbow

[balmy sparrow]

Have you considered not being behind cover that is possible to be hit around

[royal grove]

Sounds like you stayed behind the same cover as the first time you got hit

Which leads me to believe you did not consider moving while they reload the crossbow

Big if true

[urban sonnet]

explosive xbow is low b tier, they'll run out of ammo before killing you if you are trying to survive instead of reeeing

[balmy sparrow]

You do know there are such beautiful things called buildings
Like actual houses

If you encounter people in the wild without any actual cover that is not explosive crossbow or even game's fault

That's all you

[urban sonnet]

This is why I can't fault Crytek for muting this whole tab of the server

[balmy sparrow]

Ikr

While we do understand that you may be slightly upset for losing in a videogame to an unfair weapon that you failed to think about, we will not let you shit all over the game and people

And that totally does not excuse you jumping to personal insults after being faced with logic

[tawny meadow]

Ok it's time for all to relax 🙂

[royal grove]

[balmy sparrow]

Can you show people around here spirits of past future and present

[tawny meadow]

I can but i won't.

[balmy sparrow]

Why not

[tawny meadow]

I'll just show my madz skills with crossbow explosive

Skills that i don't have

[unborn gyro]

It's not my computer Duncan. It's not my internet connection. It doesn't take 10 to 20x the duration of my ping for hits to register in any other game. No other shooter I play has trade windows like Hunt has. I feel like you troll 90% of the time. I understand the desire to play with friends. The counter to region lock is "but Oceania is low population." Crytek has a sales and marketing department? Social media outreach. Lower the price of the game in the low pop regions, incentivize streamers in those areas to promote the game, do some actual marketing. Crytek seems bent on squeezing the game for every bit of money they can get out of it without actually addressing what is fairly well believed and demonstrated as infrastructure issues.

The company has built a great game that is hamstring by its own inability to grow it. I would argue the less than stellar performance which is exacerbated by these high ping concessions ultimately hurts their bottom-line. Creatives are often hamstrung by business leaders who do not accept risk so the product is suffering for it. If this is the current flagship Crytek product I know they can do better. I think it boils down to them choosing not to.

The proof is in the pudding. SLow hit marker = high ping player on the other end. Each and everytime I review a profile they are not playing in their region when it happens. The microstutter goes through the roof when dealing with server seeming to struggle to extrapolate hit validations, positions, etc. High ping hurts this product. THe people who suffer most for it are the people playing in their region. A FPS should not be that way. High ping should be severely penalized. If a region needs more players then Crytek should drop its prices or find creative ways to move units. Watering down the game (product) to accommodate this seems to be a bad idea. I don't recommend the game anymore because of these things and I would love to be more active in getting more people into the game but I can't in good conscience do that because Crytek hasn't shown any real concern or taken real measures to actually improve US West -- my home region. I would argue it's literally the worst cluster in the entire game due to folks gravitating to it from halway around the globe and the reality is that they should have BETTER options themselves. These are choices actively made by Crytek.

This community turns on itself so often when the reality is I wouldn't post if I didn't care. I really enjoy the game but damn it, it is so frustrating sometimes. It's getting to that point where I may just have to move on even though I don't want to. The trade window sucks. High ping sucks. US West sucks. The game itself is great. Fix these things. Please Crytek. I'll shut up now.

[queen jungle]

High Ping is always going to happen. That's why trade window was increased.

[lean estuary]

What’s a good counter for getting flash mob spammed? Throw hive bombs? Flash them? Fight better? Escape the compound?? @patent flower

[zenith wagon]

How does slow hit marker=high ping?

Hit verification is client side right?

Isn't this the reason trades are even a thing

[spice topaz]

Hits still get validated on server

Can't say how much playing against high ping player delays hit markers but the delay is certainly longer for the one that has that high ping. All in all the gaming experience is much better with low ping.

[primal ether]

I understand the concept and havent really described it. I want the old hit reg system back. Or you could change the threshhold for a smoother experience. I dont care for chinese players on EU servers if their shots disappear because they are already dead according to the data the server received earlier. I really dont understand how people like the system. I guess thats some skill gap issue "wow at least i got a kill!". Higher skilled players dont like this at all. Sorry to be rude but there are reasons that competitive games use server sided hit detections. And theory is one thing. All that matters is gaming experience in the end.

[frosty garnet]

@smoky igloo, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

Trait idea: « Vampire »
Cost: 5
« Killing a hunter with a melee weapon fully heals you »
I feel like bold move like rushing someone with a combat axe should be rewarded, and this would allow you to go for multiple kills despite taking a bullet during your charge in a distance where most guns kill you in two shots.```

[frosty garnet]

@smoky igloo, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

**Trait idea**: « Vampire »
**Description** : Cost: 5
« Killing a hunter with a melee weapon fully heals you »
I feel like bold move like rushing someone with a combat axe should be rewarded, and this would allow you to go for multiple kills despite taking a bullet during your charge in a distance where most guns kill you in two shots.```

[royal horizon]

@queen jungle If kept in their current state, Beetles taking off a whole 25 bar would be very powerful (too much even).

I think the right approach is to keep them a kind of cripple tool, where you can soften up a target with bleed and poison before attacking. So the point wouldn't be to buff the Beetle, but to rather nerf the questlines requirements. Who can manage to make 50 damage in a single match with beetles ? That's insane.
I know you can just punch people with them to make progress on the quest, but needing to circumvent actual use of an item for a cheeky unintended way is clearly not the way to go

[queen jungle]

Most matches, I rarely see people use a beetle. It's just not that powerful.

I don't like the beetle. It doesn't mesh well with the current mechanics. But since it's here and not going anywhere, might as well make it useful.

[royal horizon]

I agree, which makes the quest requirements even more stupid, since they're based more or less on luck to accomplish them (the quest for destroying beetles is very much based on luck)

[royal horizon]

I don't like it as well, but devs seem to think it's worth more to invest time and effort in such a game mechanic rather than making interesting new items and weapons

[queen jungle]

Beetles are easy to destroy at compounds. There's even a perk for it to see via dark sight.

It's more difficult now, since no one uses them.

That's the luck, whether the enemy hunter you're playing against is carrying them.

New weapons and items are easy, but it won't be a game changer. Right now people are excited for the rumored lemat carbine. While I'm just sitting there thinking it's not going to be that different from the nagant carbine.

What I want is new game mechanics to change the way we currently play.

[royal horizon]

They're easy to destroy, yes. But I very rarely see people using beetles (and even less now since no one uses them)

[queen jungle]

I've suggested a ton of things from a new insanity (fear) debuff from bosses, a footprint tracking mechanic, blood sight, fire sight, sound sight, darksight debuff, an invincible roaming boss, scope glints that can only be seen through scopes, etc.

Everything else seems boring. I mean that teaser where everyone is excited for a new boss and instead it's a new scarecrow event.

[royal horizon]

Yeah, I hope devs have some interesting new things cooking up

[royal horizon]

The scope glint would at least help give the spyglass a use. (I'm tacking on the special slot suggedtion for the spyglass / lamp onto that lol)

What I think Hunt needs the most right now, is an "operation health" style fixing. UI improvement, QoL changes, give the half-baked features and actual use, etc

That would help make the game more stable and polished before adding new stuff to it

[glass fractal]

Crytek, can you PLEASE fix the trapping? It is SO annoying if the trap stays red although there is leveled, flat dirt terrain. Please fix. Especially since you decreased the range of the alert trip mines.

[lean estuary]

I would like scope glint in this game if it was treated realistically…only when it’s opposite the sun or other light source at the right angle, and not at night

The scope glint in some of the newer games is too ridiculous…it’s like a flashlight that’s always on

[royal horizon]

Yeah, but seeing how the sun is not very realistically represented already, it would need some heavy tweaking for it to work

[lean estuary]

Sure!

[royal horizon]

I think having the glint at all times, but only throught the spyglass could work

[lean estuary]

Hmm

Seems too unfair

A bigger glint on the larger spyglass lens makes sense

[royal horizon]

Yeah

But idk

The spyglass needs a use tho

Other than "oooh look a guy slightly closer"

[lean estuary]

It’s got that double zoom!

Click it twice

[stray horizon]

right? lmao y'all remember when a bunch of people here freaked out like it was going to ruin the game forever and talked about uninstalling it over it

[royal horizon]

it get the feeling like people will freak out over anything really, I bet people will freak out over the LeMat Carbine and in the end it's not gonna be worth freaking out over

[fossil frost]

It's the end of the world every update with something new

[crystal plume]

@queen jungle It's the same model both in the pictures and ingame, the only difference is lighting

She also looks closer to the images on certain times of day like golden due to the lighting being similar

[karmic ivy]

@unborn gyro
"THe people who suffer most for it are the people playing in their region."....

That is simply not true for myself or anyone I play with. I play in my home region (the same as you) and I have no trouble playing with people outside the country. They are welcome in my games.
As you say the proof is in the pudding, and I like the gun play even when I play with Chinese or people from EU or Russia.
Slow hit marker = problems with your internet, not someone else's...

"High ping should be severely penalized."

It is, try it sometime LOL.

[karmic ivy]

"Sorry to be rude but there are reasons that competitive games use server sided hit detections. And theory is one thing. All that matters is gaming experience in the end."

I agree all that matters in the gaming experience. And that is exactly why client side hit detection is the best in my opinion. It provides the best gun play experience. I really don't understand how you can ignore the fact that client side hit detection eliminates the need to wait the duration of the latency to get a hit... that is revolutionary in a game where hitting, IS THE GAME.

It means we can shoot at what we see, not some extrapolated enemy position.

Skill issue you say.... ROFL.

[karmic ivy]

Its called lighting mate, go take her into a different lighting scheme and you can enjoy yourself...

[queen jungle]

but the hair collor

[stray horizon]

@queen jungle if u look pretty sure that's just the lighting in the picture they did, sorry babe

[queen jungle]

[limpid umbra]

Idk how you are seeing orange

An eye exam might do you nicely

[royal horizon]

Other than the lighting of her hair, can we talk about the wonky ass sleeves she has in first person ?

[unborn dagger]

Yeah I prefer no scope glint in a game like this.

[vital drum]

Her first person model got updated in 1.11

She has different bracelets now, didn't notice anything with the sleeves though before

So not sure if that's been touched up or not

[vital drum]

It's the same model, nobody would bother changing it for promo art

[queen jungle]

same model, different shader

• ingame lighting is different that some pre made scene

noone would care if you make it orange 👍
but i would live a more happy live

[vital drum]

What we need is warmer lighting in the menu

Current one makes all hunters look more bland than they actually are

[flint dove]

Why this blatant cheater keeps playing??

All comments the same..

Not a 6 star

Not a "good player"

[queen jungle]

Looks like a skill issue from thyre side

[flint dove]

Pure wallhack

[flint dove]

I can send profile link... but... it seems Crytek not doing nothing.

So..

[vital drum]

Because steam comments mean nothing, even I had a bunch of comments like that before I closed my page. Report in-game or to #customer-support.

[flint dove]

Its not a good player, i said that. I recognize that. I have almost 2000hs. He was 3 stars only, its a bad player with hacks.

[queen jungle]

2k hours
but 3star?

[vital drum]

Your evaluation of the player isn't relevant, you've been given proper reporting methods. It's up to you if you want to use them or not

[flint dove]

3stars, he. 2k me.

[queen jungle]

but what da 3 star doen in your elo then?

guh?

[flint dove]

Its not my players evaluation, its a clear hacker reported by lots and still playing.
Just came here to say that. Crytek doesnt ever ban cheaters. No even the obvious like this guy.

[vital drum]

Did you actually come across this player in-game today or are you just bringing it to our attention due to steam comments?

Because steam comments mean absolutely nothing

[queen jungle]

i sure be trusting the 2000h player in 3 star lobbys

[flint dove]

Yes, he swiped my team just like flees, wallbanging everyone in a very obvious wallhack way.
But i did no video, sadly, but even with video Crytek not banning.. so... it doesnt matter.
I can give profile link if someone wants it.

[vital drum]

#customer-support wants it

[flint dove]

I just wanted people to know there is a rat playing right now, just that. And Crytek not banning a pretty obvious cheater for months already, that too.
BTW: Good players has the obvious fake hackusations of crybabes on their profiles, but interleaved with good comments and +rep.
This is not the case with this guy, its all comments saying his hacking.. so adding that makes it pretty obvious too.
Bye bye.

[vital drum]

Not a reliable method, I'm afraid. As I've said, please report the user properly, simply mentioning it here does nothing, just like steam comments.

[karmic ivy]

that logic sucks. You can't take public comments seriously. And Crytek "not banning"... nonsense.

[limpid umbra]

Cant blame a company that doesnt give a shit about steam comments

They literally have a report form

Crytek devs dont waltz around steam and say "yea this guy hakr, ban 🔨 "

[flint dove]

They even have a "report" button in game... but.. useless of course and all we know that.

[karmic ivy]

with approx. 300-500 players being banned each month (from my memory of the last reports from crytek), I would disagree.
Seems to work fine.

[limpid umbra]

Regardless, dont get mad when you think crytek should do something over steam comments

[queen jungle]

@upbeat axle I agree!

They could do a free weekend or something on the back of that ad or promo to get people trying the game out and getting hooked!

[lethal dirge]

turning the combat ax around mordhau style for blunt damage is fking brilliant

they should 100% do that, especially because they made the ax more expensive

[pulsar quest]

They could even give it a nice Maul head like a proper wood-chopping axe—something to strike a hammer against and split a tough log.

[lean estuary]

@wary hinge I had the exact same idea, using the hammer poll of the axe as a blunt weapon. I’d love it!

[lean estuary]

Would be cool to have one version with the blunt hammer poll, and another with a long spike there, for piercing damage

So you can choose Rending/Blunt or Rending/Piercing

[wary hinge]

another interesting idea would be a customizable melee polearm weapon thing
in the ammo types slot things instead of that it would be like different heads of weapons

[lean estuary]

Oh yeah!

A spear might actually see a lot of use in the bayous

[warm creek]

@queen jungle so that gun shoots shit at people? lol

[unborn gyro]

It's not severely penalized otherwise people wouldn't do it. High ping is viable in Hunt because Crytek has allowed it to be. See "trade windows." You ignore key points I make while spouting the same thing. I clearly stated I want people to be able to play with friends. What I don't like is when I shoot a zombie the game responds almost immediately but the moment I run into high ping player the hit markers start taking 10 to 20x my ping duration to register. Out of region play diminishes this product. Crytek should do more to market the game and make it more accessible (price) in low population regions (e.g. Oceania). Crytek should not sell the game in areas where they don't have a server cluster (South Africa). I find it incredibly difficult for anyone to argue high ping is "so bad" because otherwise people wouldn't do it. Trade windows suck. High ping concessions suck. US West sucks. US East is a better experience but I shouldn't have to play in a region with 90+ms ping when I have a < 15ms ping server literally miles from my house. The product suffers because it gets watered down. The game is fantatic but it's hamstring by infrastructure decisions driven by squeezing as much money as they can out of this game. As a consumer I want greater optimization of the servers. As a producer Crytek wants to squeeze me until I pop. I will spend more money on this game if Crytek does more to improve server stability and gameplay experience on US West. I would argue the developers can do more and they're probably limited by the business side of things. So that's why I stress I will begin to spend more money on this game if they invest back into the infrastructure.

[surreal valve]

increase the god damn timer to extract.

30 seconds is a joke! If you don't spot a rat team running immediately the game is forfeit.

[royal grove]

Reaction time issue

[karmic ivy]

There are several problems with your statements.
I have experience with latency and can tell you that I simply won't play if it gets much above 100ms. It makes everything harder and I die more often. Even if you play in a manner that mitigates as much of your latency disadvantage as possible, you are simply unable to react to new situation fast enough.
It is obvious to me you do not have much experience playing with high latency. I don't think you know what you are talking about.

"Out of region play" does not diminish the game I am playing. You are barking up the wrong tree looking for your problem.

You find it hard to believe that people play with high ping. I cannot imagine why. When it was my only choice, as in game with latency, or no games. I still tried out of desire to play. It is simply that. People will accept it when they have to. NOT because they WANT high latency. Only lag cheating players WANT latency.

US west does not suck. I play there primarily, the only reason I play East is when the population is low in the AM. I get a good stable ping on US West and the gameplay is crisp. 0 problems.

You claim the servers are inadequate, but your only reasoning is your bad experience. What is going on is that there is nothing wrong with the servers, the rest of us are using them without trouble, and your problems are caused by something between you and the server causing problems with your packets. I hope you find the cause. And I know I am probably wasting my words, but you are barking up the wrong tree with the server thing, and wasting your efforts.

The proof is in the pudding, and the pudding is good for me and everyone I play with.

[unborn gyro]

Your experience is not my experience. I guess we'll leave it at that. Take care Duncan.

[karmic ivy]

Good luck

[lean estuary]

Blongus spotted

[limpid umbra]

🤓

[queen jungle]

"Only Cheaters want high latency" - No one wants high latency, not even cheaters. Wall hacks, autoaim, they all need low latency for the bullets to hit.

[karmic ivy]

I said "lag cheating players" as in "lag switches"

[queen jungle]

Ah. I understand.

[warm creek]

?

[upbeat axle]

That and just making an add that runs alongside other game related adds in the same timeframe. How many genjin impact or raid shadow legends adds do you see, and how many low effort mobile games, constantly advertised on yt. It cant be That expensive.

Advertising through Streamers does not work. Its proven. The only demographic you hit is the ones allready familiar with the product.
Stop projecting your frustrations, its not a good look. We arent even talking about the things you mention, and its kind of cringe how you make this about your opinion.

[lean estuary]

@inner yarrow what weapon “puts 43 rounds into the air in seconds”?

[willow burrow]

This really depends on your definition of 'expensive' but google ads, particularly on yt isn't very cheap, particularly when you advertise in a niche that's competitive (fps, video games), those games you mention are extremely predatory, they limit investments in development, maximize ads and their gameplan is just to make people spend as much as soon as possible. Hunt doesn't even have that conversion rate, because a lot of people quit the game, which means they don't spend money on DLCs.

Why does this game need more players again?

[upbeat axle]

Are you serious?......

[willow burrow]

yes can you answer the question?

[upbeat axle]

Hold on, give me a minute to lower my expectations

[willow burrow]

You know, if you're being insulting it doesn't actually make your point any better or you look any smarter. Quite the opposite.

[upbeat axle]

Look if i have to tell you why this game needs more players, the conversation is over before it even started

[willow burrow]

So you can't explain why it needs more players?

[lean estuary]

I am also wondering

[upbeat axle]

Because right now, the game is stagnating, player base as is is hitting a point of fermentation akin to super seasoned players whom know everything about the game and then some. The current matchmaking system plays a role in that seeing as the skill caps keep rising. This all together makes a very steep curve to work against as new players come in. You said it yourself, new players tend to quit.
And if you think this game will survive another year or so on the dwindling player base we have right now, you are more optimistic then me. We have a ton of potential,game wise, on our hands as a Community. But if that Community remains the same without fresh blood, it will die.

Not only that but its Impossible to strive for Innovation and development if the same people keep asking for the same things. If we had a bigger player base it would allow the devs to take more creative liberties, more fine tuning time, and a wider range of feedback

Think about having contracts again, or a multiplayer co.op story based line. Heck anything in addition to what we have now would be the case

But they Cant expand on anything Because lobbies would be dead with this playerbas

[dense schooner]

This question can’t be formulated seriously

[upbeat axle]

Thats what i was saying

[willow burrow]

I mean average player count has been holding at around 12-15k which yea isn't building up, but considering Crytek's policy (i.e. updating the game occasionally and periodically adding skins) isn't very surprising. I don't think new players quit because of steep curve, I think this simply isn't the most accessible game out there. It's already in a somewhat niche genre, its tutorial system isn't great and many players are lost and don't know how they would go about 'getting good' at the game.

[dense schooner]

Like who the fuck enjoys waiting 15 minutes to find a game

Especially duos

[elfin zephyr]

Thats not true, I found hunt because of sponsored stream, not once have i watched a add on YT or anywhere else for hunt. Never heard of hunt until i watched it on twitch.

[dense schooner]

I mean what he says is still partially true. Only during events hunt viewer count goes up to 30K, once it’s over it’s back to ~2K

[willow burrow]

If you want to have more players in your game you can't just want to have them and then slap some random ads and expect THIS TIME people will stay? As the game is if you're happy with how the game is it's not realistic expectation to want more players tbh.

[dense schooner]

and that’s mostly because of the twitch drops (people idling on the stream)

[half stag]

kinda is realistic given that, the tutorial is pretty shite (which you yourself said), and the lack of any form of "mentor system" doesn't help in hastening new players in quickly understanding basics

[willow burrow]

You know guys what I mean is like if there was unlimited consumer base out there for games like hunt showdown it would be absolutely amazing to have 1s search time and 10000000 players

[upbeat axle]

But the primary focus of the demographic is still people that allready know the game.

[willow burrow]

My friend left a review saying hes not gonna play the game cause he played with randoms, was asking questions and they told him to shut it 😂

[half stag]

yep . . . my point exactly

if they reworked the tutorial and gave some incentive to help noobies, I think it'd help a lot in player retention

[willow burrow]

Yes perhaps

[upbeat axle]

Case and point, yes , you make a good argument when u say slap some adds and hope they stick around this time. True. I agree. Same goes for the tutorials. Horrible. I gotta give you those Points..but we have to try. We have to do something to counter the decline.

[half stag]

oh and no gun range (with all weapons available) makes it really hard to get used to the gunplay. (and no, training is not the same Crytek, thanks)

[upbeat axle]

And the only option there is now, is a more agressive add campaign

[willow burrow]

Look normally I would agree with you cause I think having more players is generally better than having less

But considering the difficulty of recruiting new players I am happy that my queue time is this short

[elfin zephyr]

If you don’t advertise, nobody will know your product exist. You have to market your product. Imagine if CoD came out with a game and did no advertisements for the game and just released it. How do you think their sales would be vs how they advertise now with constant adds and partnerships with doritos ect.

[upbeat axle]

Granted, sure. We are lucky it is..but it wont be for long if this keeps up.. thats my arguement

[half stag]

apex just sitting in the corner (tho that game is free)

[upbeat axle]

Cod doesnt need Advertisement, its Legacy sells it
Hunt doesnt have that, so no i disagree.

[willow burrow]

I'm afraid we will have to wait and see tbh

[upbeat axle]

Plus, cod should be dead and buried. Its the fifa/madden of shooters. It belongs in the console era of xbox 360

[willow burrow]

I might be biased, I play fighting games and on main, commercial, big titles if we maintain 2000 avg players its a good number.

[upbeat axle]

And i may be biased because this is my fav game and i want to keep Playing it for as long as possible.

[lean estuary]

Also, thanks for writing out your opinion. I’m a little ignorant about the situation, so it’s enlightening 🙏

[willow burrow]

Oh don't get me wrong I spend a lot of time in Hunt and I want it to do well, but it is also the game which has got (allegedly) a pretty low budget for development I can't see it get to a significantly higher number of players.

[elfin zephyr]

If nobody knows the game exist nobody is buying it. You’re missing the point

[upbeat axle]

Thank u and others for tollerating with my hotheaded ass. Lol.

[upbeat axle]

Cod has a legacy of yeaaaaars. Currently they really dont need to spend anything on adds, they just need to announce a release. Maybe you are missing the Point

[elfin zephyr]

An add is an announcement

[upbeat axle]

Im done talking with you. You are too mindlocked to talk to.

[lean estuary]

I think both you @upbeat axle and @willow burrow are right…if there’s any broad-brush lesson, it’s that the game and it’s promotion could really use a holistic effort from Crytek to improve.

[upbeat axle]

Yeah, that, 100%. Put some of that DLC money to use.

Their latest video Contest would be a great way to spread awareness but alass, all that content is just laying around collecting dust now.

[elfin zephyr]

You proved my point CoD doesn’t have to advertise because of “their legacy” hunt doesn’t have that legacy. Mind locked sure buddy

[queen jungle]

Activision Blizzard do spend a lot on Ads though. Twitch, reddit, ign, etc. It's not called legacy, but rather "goodwill" or their value linked to their reputation.

In accounting it's called goodwill.

😄

[willow burrow]

Yes they have a lot of marketing campaigns

They seem to be releasing the 'same' game all the time but to their credit they have been trying to broaden the demographic

[queen jungle]

Would they be as successful if they didn't have trailers prior to launch? No. Sales would be less, not significantly so, but enough to make a small dent in revenue.

Marketing hype does pull in a lot of sales.

I do think CoD is varied in gameplay. Black Ops 3 took place in the near future giving operators special abilities. I found it quite fun, similar to Overwatch or Valorant.

[willow burrow]

I did play the DMZ thingy with a friend I play Hunt every day and it is something I quite enjoyed even though I would never play DM in CoD

[queen jungle]

DMZ is fun but it has a lot of flaws. It's not going to last if they don't fix some stuff.

Extraction camping is an issue.

[willow burrow]

I haven't yet encountered any fatal flaws but I've only played for one day 😅

[spice topaz]

Big boys use the money to market not to better their product. Is Crytek using it for neither one of those options? I'll let you have your own opinion.

[queen jungle]

At DMZ launch the numbers for modern warfare 2 was quite high.

But Apex Legends and PUBG has their numbers recover.

[willow burrow]

Anyway, do you guys feel like Hunt could even maintain more players? Let's say they did a big campaign (though idk how you'd sell Hunt at this point), would players even stay?

Moreso, could the servers handle the heat? 😅

[upbeat axle]

.n... nooo... no buddy, that was my point to i was making, you were arguing against that.... how can you messthat up 😂 good god.

[upbeat axle]

More players would mean more grouped up ping and localized ques. If we are going by the notion that every nationalities playerbase increases by a couple%, hypothetically. The issue with the servers is that the servers arent built for international play and with many regions close that are depending on eachother.
NA-Oceanic/asian servers, and EU-RU servers. Both those variations overlap a ton. It takes a lot more work to gen over long distance, hence ping abuse.

[upbeat axle]

It always pains me greatly to know how popular CoD still is, with everything that happened n' all

[willow burrow]

I don't mean ping I mean the servers can't handle the load and need to be constantly shut down about every week.

[brave ruin]

Cod is a popular franchise and one of the best shooters. It's popular because devs putted A LOT of work in game design, level design and gameplay. What's why it's so popular. Hunt is a different type of shooter and I do not think that Hunt team understands its. As I see, they want to make zombie BR mode for battlefield 1, but without vehicles. This is the main problem of this game.

[queen jungle]

You want horses in the game?

Hunt's problem is that it was designed for a veteran FPS player

It's not a difficult game per say, but the casual gamer wouldn't have patience for it.

So it'll always be niche popular.

Just like Escape from Tarkov is niche popular.

I wondered if Hunt Showdown was made Free to Play, would it gain a huge audience and in-turn more revenue? But it's progression system isn't designed that well. Most free to play games that are successful give out "doggie treats" along with a carrot on a stick.

This game doesn't have that.

But it's starting to with questlines.

[brave ruin]

It's just a joke, but horses can make game more fun. XD
I do not think it's for veterans. This game just not fun at all if you want to play in shooter, because shooting part of the game around 10-20% of whole gameplay. This is just horrible. What's why I think better to make a new mode or something. Also this is the reason why it have small community. Not all likes hide iin bushes...I mean original "hunting" part.
Also I do not think free to play can help too. Maybe for first several months, but because of game design it will be low again.
What's why I think that for Hunt better to support strong parts of the game (horror, pve and hunting pve and pvp mechanics). It will be not popular too, but at least it will be a game with unique gameplay with a strong fan community.

[somber harbor]

definitely not

a game designed for a veteran fps player would have all sorts of hidden techs like bunny hopping

it's moreso a game designed for people who want a change of pace from other more popular fps games

[willow burrow]

I don't get this point tbh, veteran FPS played spent their childhood playing games that are faster paced than CoD

I think Hunt's got many elements that appeal to casuals like teams, revives, 'pity gear' (free hunters), fun eldritch (or whatever) setting etc.

[hybrid owl]

Designed maybe, doesn't have to be forever

[willow burrow]

but it does very poorly at accommodating said players

[hybrid owl]

From my experience, hunt works very well as a casual game, maybe make a "discover" gamemode/matchmaking pool so they don't get steamrolled, but It's really dumb fun sometimes

You don't lose at much, even less at the start of the game, free hunters are plenty and all guns are at the very least usable

[willow burrow]

I agree, hunt is one of the more casual games I've played

It isnt candy crush dont get me wrong but the stress vs fun is at a very healthy ratio

[hybrid owl]

Honestly if they added an other more fast paced "duel/2v2" gamemode I would see it working really well for those who don't like the "extraction" part of hunt but still like it's theme or shooting

[willow burrow]

I think quickplay just needs to be removed in favour of something like that

[hybrid owl]

Indeed, you aren't really forced into teamfights, and pve is dangerous enough that you can still have fun with it

[willow burrow]

like a Showdown mode

[hybrid owl]

Not removed but add the option of skill based matchmaking

More gamemodes = more variety = more fun

[spring verge]

@willow burrow did you hit youre head or just honoring the last part of youre name because this doesnt make any sends on my feedback

[willow burrow]

Well if you want a new mode you pretty much have to remove quickplay

[hybrid owl]

I like quickplay, it's different enough and you get to see/play guns that are not commonly used

[willow burrow]

thanks for referencing my message now I can say it here again:

Let's remove prestige and rank from kill screen/spectator screen so people stop complaining about irrelevant stuff

that is explained literally in the game if they hover over 'skill based'

[spring verge]

irrelevant stuff do you have any idea what you even are talking about because man you sound so dam stupid right now

[hybrid owl]

I mean not really, both can live togheter, yeah of course player count is gonna be an issue but no need to remove content because of that

[willow burrow]

people were complaining here today about 15 minute queues with a new gamemode it would be even longer

[hybrid owl]

I agree, rank 100 prestige 0 can be someone with 2k hours while a rank 65 prestige 5 can have waaay less

[willow burrow]

the matchmaking is skill based not prestige based

[hybrid owl]

Possible, would be nice if they had like "players in queue count"

[spring verge]

no it is not but this also means you dont know how matchmaking works like the Hunt devs clearly and why this needs a rework

[willow burrow]

I know how it works theres a number behind ur profile indicating ur skill

[hybrid owl]

Why do you disagree?

[willow burrow]

if u die u lose mmr, if you kill you gain mmr

matchmaking puts you in a game at certain average mmr based on your 'team mmr' which is based on your mmr and party size

none of this factors in prestige because it shouldnt

play time != skill

[spring verge]

you mean the stars yea i know but this its exacly why this MMR stuff in hunt sucks

dont have to explain how SBMM works to me i know exactly how it work i am currently working on this my self
and also why i know exactly that this is a terrible way to go and why the are the only one using it this way and why even there partners complane about it only the people that benefit from it dont complain (not the one that want a fair game)

[hybrid owl]

Sadly I'm not sure how it would be fixed, but if we go by prestige we're gonna have a problem, i'm almost level 100 prestige 0 but I only have like 30 hours.
There's a lot of high skilled players that don't prestige at all, and If i'm against them I'm gonna be wrecked

[spring verge]

and everyone that thinks its not the case needs to get away from under there huge rock and do some research on the complain you will be suprised

[hybrid owl]

What do you have in mind for fixing it/replacing it?

[willow burrow]

there is a numerical value behind stars and you can see your exact mmr value why did you correct me to 'stars'

[hybrid owl]

More by curiosity than "prove it", since I do believe it's not the best system myself, just don't see any other way of doing it

[willow burrow]

I'm still waiting for a coherent point to be made

[hybrid owl]

You can see a range but i didn't know you could see the exact value

[willow burrow]

u can know the exact value

its in attributes.xml file in hunt directory

[hybrid owl]

Ohhh

Nice

[willow burrow]

(in some subdirectory)

anyway matching people based on prestige or hunter rank is not only pointless it just literally punishes bad players who invest their time into the game

by 'bad' I also mean 'casual' and theres nothing wrong with being that, this isnt exactly a top notch competitive title

[upbeat axle]

Ok dude, you keep thinking that.
Why are you even here if you think so lowly of the game?

[brave ruin]

Because this is my opinion. And I think Hunt can be better game. Better than just dumb BR game.

[upbeat axle]

The fact you don't give it more credit for what it is, other then calling it a 'dumb BR game' is daunting. seriously. It is SO much more then that. the sound design alone should be accommodated with a medal.

[tawny meadow]

Also it's not a BR

[soft river]

i thought BR meant brazilian

[tawny meadow]

It's not Brazilian either.

[dense schooner]

[karmic ivy]

I think you are showing us you don't know how it works. You cannot explain it, you just say its terrible, unfair and not the way you would do it...
If you could elaborate on how the match making is unfair I might consider it. But you just state it sucks and expect us to buy it (when it is clearly working....) Sure thing...

In my experience, and I have played more than a few games, Hunt's match making is top notch, one of the best. It does what it advertises and does it well. Skill based matchmaking, in less than 5 minutes.

[queen jungle]

They could implement a “Vanguard” system similar to Marauders which could be cool.

Offer a special Discord role as well and Hunt Dollars.

[royal grove]

Compared to other games, I find hunt's matchmaking pretty solid

[soft river]

@queen jungle I feel like too many people look at the image without actually reading what the suggestion says

I suggested an insane guy who thinks hes a american revolutionary soldier with tattered clothes

but because the image attached was super powerful benjamin franklin with the caption "this is how he sees himself"

people didn't actually read that and just downvote, at least thats what I think

and considering your suggestion has a different ratio with a different image

people just need to read

[stray horizon]

okay but see I upvoted that one not only because I liked the idea but because I actually just wanted that image to be the Hunter

[soft river]

that would be a good hunter

[elfin zephyr]

MMR system is trash in this game. Many times where i have seen 3-4 star teams have to play against full 6 star teams because the 6 star team had skill based match making off while the 3-4 star team had it on and gets paired against people that are way out of their league. QP effecting BH mmr is a joke. If you guys think the MMR system is good you have lost your mind

[soft river]

I'm pretty sure tarkov, the other big extraction shooter

doesn't even have one

at least that's what I've heard

[royal grove]

Wish I could get a refund on tarkov

[soft river]

I really do want to get it

the weapon customization sounds awesome

but a bunch of other stuff is turning me away

none of my friends have it anyways

the only other extraction shooter any of my friends have is marauders

I think marauders is in a good point where that level of weapon customization (if it were added) would not break the game, like it would with hunt

so I could just get marauders and bet on that

[royal grove]

Tarkov is more tedious than real life, every single part of the game is a pain in the ass

[karmic ivy]

I don't just think its good. It is demonstrably good. As in, it does what it says. It is a fact.
BTW they also say it cannot function correctly with too small a population in the region you are matching in. That is probably where your stories come from. You should provide all the details if you are going to make that claim.

You also misrepresent how the system works and claim it works in ways it does not. You should be less disingenuous and more objective.

[brave ruin]

Because I do not talked about sounds. I am talking about design. And by game design it's a dumb BR game.

[brave ruin]

True, but devs removed almost everything, which maked this game unique. Now boss and clues worked as circles in BR games and pve so useless that now it's a almost pure pvp. For true BR devs should remove extraction points. This is all.

[karmic ivy]

kinda makes sense, as its not a BR game.
I would call it a sandbox PvPvE game.

[crystal plume]

Sorry but are we playing the same game?

Hunt is not a BR at all

[brave ruin]

It is, just because it have extraction points. But main gameplay is the same as in BR. Early version of Hunt was different.

[crystal plume]

Early Hunt was basically the same core gameplay loop

[karmic ivy]

I greatly disagree

[crystal plume]

And extraction shooters are a thing and becoming more popular, that's a separate genre from BR

[royal grove]

What the fuck am I reading

[brave ruin]

No. It was like a sand box. Different tiers of hunters maked gameplay more deep, because you should prepare and only when you have tier 2 or 3, then you can fight for bounty. Now gameplay like in Warzone. Everyone just runs to the point (boss) for pvp. What's why pve useless now.

[brave ruin]

I do not know.

[crystal plume]

I have very different memories of early Hunt

[brave ruin]

You can. Since this is my opinion.

[royal grove]

You're upset that there is an objective to fight for and fight over? But also you want the game to have harder PvE?

Bro has no conception of what bro wants or how to get it

[brave ruin]

To be honest, I do not care many years already, since devs do that they want. But I want to see a horror game which it should be with awesome weapon mechanics (not railguns) and with awesome pve part. Play in resident evil for a horror game and you will see how it should be.

[royal grove]

Bad take
Reported

[brave ruin]

Face-palm. This is other reason why community here is so small.

[elfin zephyr]

I misrepresented it? Im disingenuous? Please explain because im genuinely curious. Funny how im instantly called a liar and i need to show proof, wtf would i gain from making shit up in discord……nothing.

Why would i have proof? Bro we just shit on some 3 star players…….better clip that for the montage dude we’re so good

[karmic ivy]

Yes, you misrepresent the way SBMM works by claiming with SBMM off a team will be matched with opponents of a lower rank (who have SBMM on), instead of the same or higher rank OR lower rank (with SBMM OFF).
That can occur in a low population region. But it is not the way the system is designed to work, more like a backup ruleset when the primary one fails.
If you already understand that, you are also being disingenuous. By reason of the fact that you do not include the low pop. situation in your claim of how the system will work.
You say "why?"
I could not guess, nor do I want to. I am just talking about what you type.

[royal grove]

The stars are just a visual the game uses the number behind the scenes
Low region pop + some fudge factor for queue times = shit happens don't take it personally

[elfin zephyr]

I never said you WILL be matched vs lower players but it does happen and thats a fact. You said bull shit where the proof then say it does happen, yet im misrepresenting and being disingenuous. Lmfao

[dense schooner]

the real issue is quickplay affecting your bounty hunt MMR

that is completely stupid

[elfin zephyr]

Yep i have said that many times.

[karmic ivy]

What? maybe you should just quote me. I can't tell what you are saying. But yes, you misrepresent how the SBMM system works.

[elfin zephyr]

Your making shit up about what i said so how about you quote me

I spoke facts you came back with opinions.

[karmic ivy]

I did, read up.

[elfin zephyr]

Ok mr white knight

[lean estuary]

I think this is part of what we were talking about a few days ago - augmenting the PVE stuff so the PvP doesn’t completely overwhelm everything else…I’d agree that Hunt is not a BR, although BRs and Extraction Shooters have lots of similarities. But! In Hunt, it’s not “kill, or die”….you always have the option of leaving the area.

[elfin zephyr]

@karmic ivy “Yes, you misrepresent the way SBMM works by claiming with SBMM off a team will be matched with opponents of a lower rank (who have SBMM on), instead of the same or higher rank OR lower rank (with SBMM OFF).” I never said any of that.

[worthy knoll]

@balmy sparrow only If No mosins, Berthiers or Lebels are submitted.

[worthy knoll]

Well they best skin for Most people ist still a free Mosin skin

[karmic ivy]

"Many times where i have seen 3-4 star teams have to play against full 6 star teams BECAUSE the 6 star team had skill based match making off while the 3-4 star team had it on" -@elfin zephyr

You did... caps is mine (for emphasis)

If you would have said "because... the region had a low population and that is the best it could do" then it would not be misrepresenting how the system works. But you said "because the 6 star team had skill based match making off while the 3-4 star team had it on"
You see how that is different?

[upbeat axle]

Dont remind me of what we could have had. * cries in awesome crossbow skin *

[elfin zephyr]

Smdh. 3-4 star team vs 6 star team is such a good SBMM system right? Low population or not those teams should never be matched against each other seeing how the 3-4 star team had skill based on, sorry dude 3 star players shouldn’t be matched vs 6 unless both have skill based off. Its pretty simple to understand that the 3-4 star team wants to play against people with similar skill level and not 6 star players with 3x kda more than them.

[worthy knoll]

I am sorry Bit I will until we get another skin contect where a Mosin does Not win;)

[upbeat axle]

God's speed frend, I'm on that same ship.

also, still praying for the day they remove mmr in quickplay.

[dense schooner]

@summer onyx there’s already multiple tools to trivially counter them:

1. common sense;
2. vigilant;
3. antidote shot;
4. bloodless/mithridatist

[summer onyx]

Bloodless/mithradist doesn't help in the least bit. You die as soon as the trap is sprung. Have you not encountered a Concertina + Poison trap?

"Common sense" means you have never set off a tripwire trap? Lol. Come on now.

I didn't realize so many people enjoy the cheesy combo of 1-shot traps anywhere. Barrels and alerts are one thing, because there's a massive red or yellow barrel to be wary of. But a Concertina + Poison setup can be almost anywhere. I'm personally not fond of it.

[dense schooner]

I like how you cherrypicked the least useful option and conveniently ignored the rest.

I never said I’ve never hit a death trap. Common sense, besides using your eyes, is knowing common trapping spots; i.e. doorways, vault-overs, middle of walkways, corners, staircases, etc. It’s understandable if you have few hours in the game but if you have at least ~600 hours you should have learned most of them by now.

Then again, you still have the antidote shot, and vigilant, which is the most useful option of all, and it’s very cheap (1 trait point).

That said, death traps are a nonissue and if you hit one that’s entirely your fault

[royal grove]

If you die to an insta kill trap laugh it off and go next

Learn something from it

[crystal plume]

I agree that the combo needs a nerf but not in the form that is being suggested I think

[dense schooner]

They’re literally so easy to avoid, nothing has to be done

[crystal plume]

They specifically stated that they do not want to add instakill traps IIRC which is also why stuff like nade traps don't exist

[summer onyx]

Don't get salty. I was pointing out that Bloodless and Mithradist are entirely useless against the combo traps, since you seemed to think they did help somehow. But yes, Antidote shot and Vigilant help.

Playtime is an interesting argument about it though. Basically "If you're new, you'll die to them. If you're a veteran, you should know where to look."
I disagree with a game mechanic of "Just kill new players."

And sure, it's "your fault" if you die to them. It's "your fault" if you get caught out with no cover, or get ganked by another team when you're fighting a different one, or, or, or. The list really goes on. I'm not talking about "fault", I'm just saying that my opinion is, this specific insta-kill trap feels bad in Hunt.

[crystal plume]

It's just weird that combining 2 traps essentially turns it into what they didn't want to implement, you have to get lucky to survive it with the concertina wire deployment and such

[summer onyx]

So you can survive it? I've never survived, and never seen anyone survive. Unless an Antidote shot was running.

[dense schooner]

If you don’t have enough playtime just use an antidote shot or buy vigilant, if you still die even with those then you might not particularly excel at this game

You can survive them if you just run through them

[crystal plume]

Traps should always be about alerting you to the enemy pushing from X position with some debuffs or such, not to just lay out and afk while people get instakilled by them

[dense schooner]

even without antidote or bloodless

[crystal plume]

You should always be forced to still pay attention to your traps to finish the people off who walk into them

Except alert tripmines of course

Those are 10x easier to spot due to the barrels alone and barrels have set spawn locations, the trap combo can be put anywhere

[crystal plume]

This is not true, it's based on luck if you survive it and depends on how the wires got deployed

[dense schooner]

it is not luck, nearly every time i hit one i just run through it and i survive

[crystal plume]

Sometimes you can get out almost right away without being slowed down by the wires into the cloud too much, sometimes you just don't have time to get out of it

[dense schooner]

i hit my teammates traps the whole time

[summer onyx]

"Just git gud" isn't really an excuse lol. At least, imo it's not.

I'm not a new player, and I don't particularly have struggles with the tripwires. But every time I see them, I get disappointed that this strategy even exists.

[crystal plume]

Teammates traps do less damage

[dense schooner]

when it’s something so easy to avoid, it is really a skill issue

You have the tools at your disposal to counter them trivially and you still refuse to use them

[crystal plume]

I feel like I have also more than enough time to have "gotten good" and still recognize the issue with that specific trap combo 😄

[dense schooner]

can’t help yourself there

[summer onyx]

You come across a bit arrogant my man, as if you're talking down on me, non-stop. Just letting you know 👍

[dense schooner]

don’t know what to tell you if you think they’re an actual issue with 5k hours

[crystal plume]

I mean I can already tell enough about how much I should listen to just calling out differing opinions on balance as "skill issues"

[summer onyx]

Everyone has different experiences. There's no need to "GIT GUD" because it's not something you have troubles with. For all I know, you could hate Automats, Nitros, Sniper scopes, Shotguns, or Beetles.

[crystal plume]

So I'm not gonna bother with this convo any further either

[dense schooner]

the balance is already there

use an antidote

vigilant

use the jump button

and your eyes

that helps

[royal grove]

A game discord mod that actually has a lot of experience in the game? Unheard of

[summer onyx]

I mean, it's easy to say "Just do X" to pretty much anything.

Die to Sabres a lot? Easy, just don't get in melee range.
Die to Mosins? Just be more squirrely, don't get hit.
Die to Dynamite? Get Bulwark and just don't get hit.

[royal grove]

The problem is that you think you know more than him but actually he knows more than you and is applying a wider perspective while weighing pros and cons

[dense schooner]

Lots of people here come all the time complaining about melee and shotguns, and yes, the same logic I’m applying to this argument, is what people here use against them, stay outside their effective range, because that’s literally that’s all there to it

[brave ruin]

Yeah. And this is the only difference now. Remove it, and game will be common BR. And this is the reason why I think that devs took a wrong way since 0.6 version or even earlier.

[dense schooner]

I don’t know man. They’re in the grand scheme of things not game-breaking. There’s far worse balance issues in the game like the Nitro Shredder than something you can nearly always avoid and not get killed by

[royal grove]

The relative position of something being bad
Aka
#2 worst bug #5 worst balance
Does not really change whether it is good or bad

I don't think it's a huge deal
But I think some pretty compelling points have been made about it needing a tweak

[dense schooner]

I really do not see an issue when the game is offering you very accessible and effective tools to counter them

[summer onyx]

That's really not all there is to it. Bounties are inside buildings. If a shotgun team gets the banish, you have to find a way to push it. Or sit outside and hope they push you.

Anyway. I'd suggest not being so aggressive and arrogant, just because you disagree with someone's opinion. It generally puts people on the defensive, which makes them not so willing to listen to your arguments. 👍

My opinion is unchanged. I still think it's too cheesy of a combo to fit in with the rest of Hunt.

[royal grove]

"just don't step on it" works fine until you have 300 things in the game that you need to "just don't step on"

[dense schooner]

Well, that is not really different from hitting 3 bear traps and double concertina traps

[summer onyx]

Difference is, a concertina + poison takes almost no more floor area from just one concertina trap.

3 bear traps (damage doesn't stack up perfectly btw) takes up far more area.

More area = more likely to be seen, more distance traveled to hit the traps, etc. If you had to run 5 meters to set off the Concertina + Poison combo, I'd have no problem with it.

[royal grove]

You are never going to get everyone in the room to agree with you so what is your goal at the moment in this conversation

[dense schooner]

It just blows my mind, how can you even classify it as an issue. It is pretty much circular talk at this point. Don’t use the tools that the game offers you and keep complaining

👍🏻

[digital vessel]

"Just clear the lobby, bro"

[summer onyx]

It's a suggestion. That's all. A discord channel that's made for people to give suggestions and ideas.

I see you made a suggestion for improvements on Medium Ammo Weaponry. Why? Why is it that you can classify medium ammo as underpowered, and in need of a buff? But it blows your mind that I think doubling up traps shouldn't insta-kill?

Now, I'm not actually questioning why you made that suggestion. Just pointing out how silly it is to get your mind blown from one suggestion you don't agree with.

[dense schooner]

I’m not the only one who disagrees. Look at the downvote count

lol

[royal grove]

A mild issue is still an issue

[summer onyx]

I didn't say you were the only one that disagrees. I'm aware, and fine with my being in the minority.

But here, think of it like this. What if my suggestion went through. Concertina + Poison traps worked how I said I think they should.

What would that change for you? According to your arguments, anyone with lots of playtime should never die to them. So, them being nerfed.. Shouldn't matter, in your MMR, right? So it would only help new players not get insta-killed... Is that such a bad thing?

[dense schooner]

It wouldn’t matter if in the hypothetical case they got nerfed, as your playstyle shouldn’t rely on them. Right now as is, even new players have accessible tools to counter them.

My point is and has always been, you have the tools, so why not use them?

[stray horizon]

@summer onyx just look down lol

[summer onyx]

But some people's playstyles do rely on them. Hence the suggestion of the nerf to them.

As for "Why not use the tools to counter them."
Vigilant requires Trait points (or RNG a Hunter to have it already). So, sure, if you've already claimed a bounty, by all means, get Vigilant if you struggle with traps!
Antidote requires a Consumable slot. New players will only have the Weak antidote shot. They'll probably use it right out of spawn, is my guess.

There are counters, definitely! But again.. What would really change, if they got nerfed? Some cheesy kills wouldn't happen on new players?

[stray horizon]

or get vigilant

it's not that cheesy tho

u have to give up 2 tools slots

and place it somewhere clever and unpredictable

and even then it can be countered by just like... looking down

it's a totally fair kill

[summer onyx]

I wouldn't say it needs to be clever or unpredictable 🤣

[stray horizon]

i mean if people know to check before they rush a boss bounty

[iron trench]

@summer onyxIt's already nerfed my friend... if you keep walking forward and hold the bleeding you'll lose only 70% of your health instead of insta dying like it was before... what kills you isn't the concertina, but the poison... you just need to get out of the poison quickly.

[dense schooner]

To be fair new players also die to red barrels and explosive crossbow (which is cheesy)

[stray horizon]

or take bloodless

[crystal plume]

Explosive crossbow?

Ohhh

Playstation

Gotcha

[dense schooner]

lower mmr only

[summer onyx]

And they quickly learn "Red barrel = dangerous". It's much different to learn "every corner/doorway/stairway = dangerous"

[summer onyx]

You sure?? I could have swore that it still kills if you try to get through it.

[lean estuary]

I hear you!

[soft river]

the problem with the 2 trap combo

as opposed to alert trip mine+red barrel

the latter is fixed to where the red barrel is placed

you can't choose where it is

thats why its balanced

concertina+poison can be literally ANYWHERE

and it has an added bonus with a little rng

concertina can break lanterns, adding fire

on top of that for some extra luck, it can explode a red barrel

[iron trench]

Try it in training, you just need to keep walking through the wires and pass them

[soft river]

though that concertina+lantern breaking+red barrel is only possible because of concertina

its jsut an added bonus to that trap combo

[summer onyx]

I'm not sure if self damage counts as friendly fire. Someone earlier said that friendly traps do reduced damage.

Next time I see a concertina + poison setup, I'll run through it though 🤣
FOR SCIENCE!

[cursive jewel]

You have to give up a lot of potentially good shit to use the double trap on someone, and its easily avoidable to top it off. Nor does it kill you unless you approach it from the proper direction, I don't really see how its that big of a deal considering the trade offs

Tomahawks and chokes are massively more consistently useful

[soft river]

right now what makes double trap so good is because the poison trip mine does poison bomb damage

instead of poison bolt damage

they both do different amounts

[summer onyx]

You can approach it from either way. Both traps get set off.

[cursive jewel]

Yes but it only 1 shots you from one direction.

[soft river]

they're fucking lying

[summer onyx]

Lol, no need to be so aggressive! It's more likely a mistake than a malicious lie.

[summer onyx]

Definitely looks like reduced damage to me. No way you only take that small amount of damage.

Anyway. Like I said, I'll test it next time I see the trap setup.

[iron trench]

Don't look back... don't stop walking... just go through

[summer onyx]

While stopping the bleed, correct? Or are you just yolo-sprinting through?

[iron trench]

Another thing you could do is start using the Antidote Shot, it lasts for 20 minutes

[iron trench]

Another useful tip is: If you see the trap, you can also jump through without activating.. the only trap you can't jump through is the Bear Trap

[lean estuary]

@lyric rivet refilling health kits sounds good

[summer onyx]

I'm not new, or struggling with the traps! I do appreciate the helpfulness though 👍

My suggestion was just because I feel like the Concertina + Poison thing is an ugly concept. I'm surprised to see so many people are into it!

Though, I was 90% sure the traps still 1-shot when placed together. If they don't, then my complaint is null lol.

[lyric rivet]

I though it was a good idea, and it doesn't completely break anything, yes i understand we have ghoul but starter hunters don't have that

[iron trench]

They did... but not now

[lyric rivet]

they aren't a 1 shot if you are paying attention and stop your run and reverse your step. in a firefight though its a death sentence. keep in mind most of the people playing hunt ARE toxic

[summer onyx]

I would say just a single concertina trap is pretty much a death sentence mid fight lol.

[lyric rivet]

i'd agree the bleed causes a pause for heal and in a firefight with any long ammo thats a 1 tap most cases

[iron trench]

@queen jungle i can't vote on your idea my friend... try to send them again

[queen jungle]

allright i`l resend

[queen jungle]

Can you vote now?

[iron trench]

Nop

[dense schooner]

do you by chance have the bot blocked?

[queen jungle]

yes

[dense schooner]

@marsh garden

You need to unblock it

Lmfao

When you block someone they cannot react to your messages

[queen jungle]

oke

what do you press to unblock?

[dense schooner]

Open the bots profile by clicking on hunt showdown

then press on the three dot menu and unblock

[queen jungle]

he is unblocked, thank you

[dense schooner]

Awesome mate

[queen jungle]

can you vote?

[dense schooner]

try posting the suggestion again

it should work

[queen jungle]

i gotta wait 6 minutes

You can vote

[dense schooner]

Imagine a double machete build

[rain stump]

i am so mad. this game is really good and the updates are pretty good. however in my 1 year of playing the game something drastic has left us. i can no longer spin the hunters in the main menu like we used to

this is so sad

this is my only complaint, bring it back please i am in anguish

[stray horizon]

you should still be able to i can, that's weird

[rain stump]

well they spin but you have to hold it down

the momentum stops as soon as you let go

[lean estuary]

It’s been this way always on console…spinning and letting go sounds way better though!

[rain stump]

WAIT NEVERMIND

I CAN SPIN

[stray horizon]

wait

you can spin them without holding on

how

[knotty marsh]

Please create a new room in LOOKING FOR GROUP: RUSSIA

Thank you.

[royal horizon]

@pulsar quest It's already stupid you get so little ammo for the flare gun, like I can kill three armored with it and I have a whole tool slot used for nothing

[pure goblet]

Since special ammo costs half for weapons with two ammo spots, shouldn't dual pistols cost double?

[soft river]

thats a fair point but I will go against this because I use dual scott fmj for ammo

[unborn dagger]

@summer onyx or you could just have more situational awareness? People have issues with it cause they don't look where they're going.

[summer onyx]

It's just something I feel like doesn't fit in Hunt. Had this conversation earlier. Someone pointed out that the devs said they intentionally never put in 1-shot kill traps (outside of Alerts + barrels, which are a different topic.)

Pairing Concertina + Poison tripwires just feels cheesy and bad. It's something that disappoints me every time I see them. That said, others have said that it's been nerfed already, and doesn't 1-shot. I still want to try it out myself, next time I see the setup. (Setting your own traps does reduced damage, according to yet another person in the conversation earlier.)

[unborn dagger]

That's fair for the one shotting, I don't mind it being reduced in damage

[summer onyx]

Yeah, that's all my concern has been lol. IF it 1-shots, that feels pretty bad to me. If it doesn't 1-shot anymore, then my complaint is null! I guess it's just been a while since I actually stepped into them. I still see them quite often, and have just assumed one step in = death.

[urban sonnet]

It doesn't always oneshot assuming correct play

And it definitely doesn't oneshot at valuts, which is where it was the most unfair (imo?)

[solemn fulcrum]

FOV slider would be amazing!

[urban sonnet]

It's already in the game, isn't it?

[summer onyx]

For PC it is. It might not be a thing for consoles?

[urban sonnet]

Right, I didn't consider it could be different for consoles. Then I agree with the suggestion 😁

[signal mural]

@Guartorias#0382 I think that trap combo is more than legit because it only has what- two uses? and takes up two tool slots. It isn't cheap or easy to predict, with only 2 sets, where an enemy will go and where there's level ground, and there are plenty of counters (IE: Vigilant, without trapper they can be heard deploying, poison shot, and just not bum rushing). The combo is often lethal but if the victim doesn't panic and run further into the barbs or poison there is a chance they will survive.

[lean estuary]

@summer onyx yeah, same as above. The big drawback to the trapper is using all of their traps up for 2 trapped areas. I don’t think I’ve been 1 shot by them, but it does really mess you up! ‘Vigilant’ helps a ton, but I find it hard to believe that this strategy “doesn’t belong in Hunt “- this is a huge part of why Hunt is interesting! You can’t shoot your way out of everything, so creative strategizing is a real necessity.

[upbeat axle]

The good ending unlocked.

[formal pendant]

Fix the trials for last gen plz i just want cool guy skins but it runs really slow feels kinda unfair

[balmy sparrow]

#ru-поиск-игроков

[royal grove]

Dude really suggested crutchercut precision

[dapper fiber]

uppercut isn't a crutch at all lmfao. takes more skill than the dolch, avto, nitro, spitzer sniper, and nagant carbine poison

[royal grove]

It's for boring people who play the game in boring ways but we really don't need to have a debate about it cus we won't agree

[dapper fiber]

the only boring playstyle is camping in a bush with a sniper or a house with a shotgun, not uppercuts

[jagged breach]

feedback: bounty rez is fucking stupid

[elfin zephyr]

Yes using an uppercut and shotgun while pushing everyone is boring lmfao. Your play style dictates boring….. not the gun

[royal grove]

I did not assert causation
I referenced correlation

[frosty garnet]

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Make it so our account status is tied to our crytek account that we link to. That way when/if we switch between systems we don't have to restart our entire progress in the game```

[elfin zephyr]

🥱

[royal grove]

Correct

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[balmy sparrow]

IRANic, isn't it?

... i'll see myself out

[frosty garnet]

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[bronze granite]

Which Developer from Crytek I should contact directly to add new thing to game properly ?
Next new thing, with video.

[royal grove]

None

[hybrid owl]

Contact their recruitor, join the dev team as a System Designer and convince the team that your idea is worthwhile

[queen jungle]

@pallid silo Since there is no bullet drop on Hunt (except for crossbow/bow/bomblance), the trajectory is usually a straight line from one symbol to the other.

[worthy knoll]

And i am fucking grateful for having No Bullet drop

[surreal steppe]

all imma say is that some of us actually prestige around here, and i miss being able to use kiteskin.

[lean estuary]

I’m noticing some correlations

[lean estuary]

@royal grove can you write out a doc that explains to everyone how to play in a way that doesn’t bore you?

[royal horizon]

@serene charm Why not a double derringer ? With higher damage but slower rate of fire. Can only load two bullets at a time

[serene charm]

I suggested that variant before.

[royal horizon]

oh alright

so it wouldn't be direct upgrade to the derringer, you know. It would just have different drawbacks

[distant valley]

/trial

[idle sierra]

@queen jungle #feedback message
You can just punch someone with the beetle in the hand and the damage will count

[queen jungle]

hilarious zhead

[royal grove]

Good morning
1 never sit in the same spot for more than 30 seconds
2 if your only interest is in the biggest baddest guns we won't be friends
2.5 if you win purely by range, you actually lose
3 if your first actions of the match are syringes I assume you have an empty life
4 shotgun aping should be a treat, not a main course
5 turn on every piano and gramophone
6 dab on the haters

[lean estuary]

Me, crying, after using a scoped weapon at range to kill the last hunter on the map and take their bounty:

“I guess…sob…I’m actually….sniff…losing right now…. ”

[crystal plume]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-is-the-game-was-rigged-from-shot-kill-gif-13763696

[royal grove]

People really be asking me a question and then throwing a yawn emoji as if they weren't dumb enough to ask in the first place

[lean estuary]

It’s ok man…people can use Uppercuts and play the game in whatever way they want to…that doesn’t seem hard to understand that they might prefer to play a certain way (and don’t have to be given a hard time for it)

[royal grove]

Love you buddy
You asked

[lean estuary]

[young quest]

if i lost my hunter due to server crash, i assume he's gone forever?

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Give us a proper fucking solo hunt mode already. 
I don't care about quickplay, nobody likes it, nobody is happy with it.```

[tawny meadow]

A solo bounty hunt mode was tested years ago and everybody hated that. It was an absolute campfest

[elfin zephyr]

Did you have an uppercut? If so your game play is 🥱 while loosing lol

[lean estuary]

No I’m scared of long ammo, compact only for me

[pallid silo]

Wrong person my dude lol

[knotty ore]

So it was poorly implemented. Doesn't mean its a bad idea.

[tawny meadow]

I think it is, but that's my opinion.

[knotty ore]

I think most players want a solo mode of some kind, its just a matter of implementation and whether any work would ever be allocated to something that doesn't make money.

[tawny meadow]

Feel free to propose some solo mode that could work in your opinion.

[knotty ore]

Sure, Easy. Its regular bounty hunt with caveats. Bossed are tuned for solo. Your solo money pool is separate and resets every 1st of the month to 0, and costs are adjusted to this. Getting snipers, avto, and nitro is very expensive. You'll have to save for a while to be able to afford them. You get a perma beetle for scouting, the beetle doesn't explode and if its killed it goes on a 3min cooldown. But, exiting beetle just spawns it back to your inventory. There are totems on the map. If you destroy them. You can see all players on the map as lightning for 3-minutes.

Obviously values can be adjusted, and more caveats introduced.

[radiant river]

this would split the playerbase, the only people who would play this mode in the long run would be people who play exclusively solo

having solos and duos combined helps with queue times, and having all progression combined encourages playing on your own to progress for when you play with your friends

[knotty ore]

That's an argument to do something about the health of the game instead of just machinegunning out DLCs.

[radiant river]

the game has a decent amount of players, there's just already a lot of matchmaking parameters

i don't think many people would enjoy a solo only mode with separate progression

[knotty ore]

Not separate progression just separate money pool

That resets once a month

[radiant river]

still

[knotty ore]

Your same argument can be made about quickplay

[radiant river]

no? quickplay is a great way to make money if you're low

[knotty ore]

It seems to not matter in terms of splitting player base so solo would have the same effect.

Sometimes you may want a shorter game and don't want to find group.

[radiant river]

as someone who usually plays duos or trios, im incentivized to sometimes try solo in quickplay since i can get money for when i play with people

creating an entirely seperate mode which still has a progression would take a lot of work

it would have all its own balancing

and the constant wipes would kill most peoples drive to play

[knotty ore]

Rust is still popular. The core mechanic is a server reset, no?

Solo mode should be like a rogue-like.

[main cradle]

Ok so

Most people in this game, love sitting on the hoard of gold

I don’t think they want a mode where their cash is wiped.

[knotty ore]

If its separate from their main pool it won't even affect them.

[main cradle]

Then why would they even play the other mode then?

They are comfy with what they have

[knotty ore]

Because solo would be a roguelike mode where people would be unable to run weapons often that literally the entirety of this server complains about on a daily basis.

There would be some BB rewards associated with end of season. Maybe free skins.

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[radiant river]

the entire game is based around that. not some side mode

why would you ever play a solo mode that wipes every month?

the kind of people that a solo rework update would be focused on are likely more casual

they don't want their progress reset every month. they'll play a month and then quit or play the regular game

also the rest of the parts of the mode you suggested sounds so insanely campy

haven't seen many complains about solo/duo

[limpid umbra]

thoughts on the self revive?

[half stag]

fine, its prob only for solos. It'd be dumb af in teams

[limpid umbra]

I dont mind it so long as its done right

[radiant river]

i think it is pointless

if you know it exists, you burn or concertina them

[limpid umbra]

True

It could be used in a pinch tho

[radiant river]

if you don't, you do nothing, and they get back up

[limpid umbra]

Something to keep you on your toes

[radiant river]

and if you dont have anything to burn, then what?

[limpid umbra]

Lanterns are not hard to come buy

Have a team member sit on their body while the other finds a lantern

[radiant river]

its not satisfying for anyone if you're in an intense fight and one of the people happens to be solo and self-revives to win the fight

[limpid umbra]

Well then keep that in mind lol

[knotty ore]

Self-revive doesn't really fit with Hunt. Unless maybe there is a Wilhelm scream associated with you coming back to life and it can be heard as far as a gunshot. 10 second cast time, "Ritual of Rebirth". Starts automatically when the last person on your team trades with the last person on another team.

You just hear "AAaaaAAAaaaAhhhhhh" for 10 seconds then both of your revive at the same time. Can be stopped with fire if another team can get there in time.

[limpid umbra]

self revive certainly fits

there are zombies

[signal ruin]

I mean we already have people being resurrected telepathically by teammates

[soft river]

yeah

and

[proud narwhal]

I reckon it should make a super loud nosie like a knell so you just hear this bell and theyre up

[knotty ore]

It should be the intro from Down With the Sickness. Just, "Oooow ah ah ah ah, gnno gnnoo".

[pure goblet]

lol all these suggestions for the self rez are hilarious. They are the exact same suggestions about beetles. "your hunter should be screaming every second he is in beetle, and he should be losing 1hp a second, and the beetle can only go 25m! then the beetle will be balanced" Says the guy who hasn't even played with the beetle yet.

[lean estuary]

@gaunt garden dealing with the enemies and players at the same time is part of the fun though! And the point of the game!

[tawny meadow]

@empty sigil you can always unequip one pistol after getting the free hunter, i fail to see the problem with that.

[royal horizon]

@remote ore But we won't see Monroe's feet then

[empty sigil]

iv got no problem with one or two of them having it, but why should of them for multiple rolls have nothing but dualies

[fallen flame]

Hey guys, not sure I’m the only one having an issue with that, but in my opinion the monetary system in hunt is broken at the moment. Stuff is getting more and more expensive (especially consumables), but the money you earn is still barely enough to buy the minimum you need for playing. Just the other day, I’ve had a solo match where I made 6 kills, but eventually got killed by a team and I got ZERO dollars for 6 kills at the end of the match. How’s that possible? Especially if you play solo (and DON’T want to play the K/D farming sniper) you have such a hard time to make money in this game to consistently afford the bare essentials like med kits, melee weapons and some shots. And yes, I get the free hunter stuff every round

[remote ore]

did you loot the bodies

[worthy knoll]

Does Not Matter. You only get looted Money If you survive

[remote ore]

Right. Then survive. generally I don't have any money issues (nearly 100k atm) but it would be nice if looting hunter bodies would give cash more often

[fallen flame]

Correct.

Why not get like 50$ per kill or sth. Even with 10 kills, you only get 500$ extra. And that’s rare enough

[fallen flame]

But you do understand that there are newer players that haven’t played thousand hours yet and that solo life in hunt is unnecessary hard atm?

[lean estuary]

It might be nice if you at least got a dollar or two per grunt

Or $5 per armored/hive or something

[acoustic panther]

delete the flaming zombies

nobody likes them

[lean estuary]

immolators?

[acoustic panther]

yes

immolators

they have been my #1 cause of death

why would anyone bring brass knuckles when the knife is better and even smashing it in the head with the butt of a gun does barely anything

[lean estuary]

If you take in a Knuckle Knife, just give them 4 light hits (with the knuckle side!) and they go down

[acoustic panther]

what if you run out of stamina and theres other zombies

[bronze quail]

Yeah i can understand that for some players hitting a immolator in the head 4 times with knuckle or weapon melees might be extremely hard

[acoustic panther]

it would be ok if the immolator attacked at one time but when you run out of stamina and you are hitting like a little bitch they will kill you before you kill them

[lean estuary]

Try to keep your distance first of all, but you’ll have to strategize with a horde

[acoustic panther]

like running and running and running and then turning around to do something but you are still out of stamina since it only replenishes while you are walking

[worthy knoll]

Yeah some Thing. Because its Just disaspointing when the PvP which is what 99% of Players Play this dir does Not get rewarded. Every time you use a frag Bomb and then loot you technically are loosung the Money for that frag Bomb.
Its imcentivises you to A habe full consumables and B dont usw Them to loot Money.

[acoustic panther]

I just found butcher after playing it safe all game, and as I was fighting him I was low on health so I had to exit the room to heal, then a fucking immolator came right round the corner while i was in the basement of the crematorium and I had nowhere to run

and I was out of stamina and fucked

[lean estuary]

Poison ammo might be the most effective solution though

[acoustic panther]

poison ammo sucks ass dude

[lean estuary]

Yeah…they CAN always get you, you just have to be careful

[acoustic panther]

and im not about to bring poison ammo just for immolators

they just suck

add nothing

[lean estuary]

Poison ammo is great for most monsters

Silenced Nagant pistol with poison ammo

[acoustic panther]

the concept of "you cant shoot them or they'll explode, but you can smash them with the butt of your weapon 15 times and they'll just keep going" doesnt work

[lean estuary]

My top strategy for the immolators is to take a knuckle knife

They can be challenging, for sure

The Funishment of Hunt Showdown

Choke bombs work too, but you only have a few of those

[royal grove]

Dusters or avoid them

[lean estuary]

Another thing you can do, if you’re at a safe distance and they’re close enough to the other zombies, is set the immolator off with a bullet and they’ll explode and burn the other zombies, then you can finish them off with dusters, etc.

Not the quietest option but it could be the best one when there are lots of enemies around

[vocal ember]

why is it so light like everything is shaking it's giving me a headache who can help to me? for the settings

[soft river]

Graphics card

?

[vocal ember]

2080Ti

[soft river]

Do you have SAM or any other retraceable bar enabled

Whatever it’s called

Sam but not amd

What resolution @vocal ember

Also do you have that stuff on

I had issues with stuff like SAM

[vocal ember]

1920x1080

what is SAM?

[soft river]

Smart access memory

it’s just amd branding for a method for the processor to have full access to gpu memory

I forgot the name for it

I had issues with that on hunt

Similar to what is happening for you

If that is on it could be what is causing it

[vocal ember]

ok what i do now?

[soft river]

Was it on

I don’t know where it is for intel and nvidia

If it was on it was probably causing rhe issue

If it wasn’t, update drivers

[vocal ember]

that is not driver that is the game problem

[soft river]

You can have a game problem caused by outdated drivers

[vocal ember]

i testet ultra setting and low setting same problem i have

[limpid aurora]

i got a question, today me and my friend played hunt, and we got interesting situation, i hit knock downed enemy with sparks and he was still alive. Are you planning to add damage log (how much damage i did to enemy, not only his damage) ?

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i got a question, today me and my friend played hunt, and we got interesting situation, i hit knock downed enemy with sparks and he was still alive. Are you planning to add  damage log (how much damage i  did to enemy, not only his damage) ?```

[limpid aurora]

hi, i got a question, today me and my friend played hunt, and we got interesting situation, i hit knock downed enemy with sparks and he was still alive. Are you planning to add damage log (how much damage i did to enemy, not only his damage) ? #game-ideas

[karmic ivy]

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[trim shoal]

they die from 4 strong attacks from any 3 slot weapon

and even if you miss a hit the slow attack when youre out of stamina is still fast enough to stun lock them

[fathom geyser]

@gaunt garden actually, people play the game for the PvE AND PvP. if you dont like it then youre playing the wrong game.

[signal mural]

Part of Hunt's best gameplay relies on positioning and PvE. If the enemy team evaded the PvE then that's to their advantage when you get caught in it and vice versa.

[queen jungle]

@raw bane Please translate your message to English or have it removed since we do not tolerate any other languages outside of the regional sections.

[frosty garnet]

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[raw bane]

And I do not tolerate your vindictive statement and I do not listen to an order at all remember that!

[raw bane]

By the way, if you can not read it, then you should definitely use Google! There is a translator!

[queen jungle]

Das Verstehen ist kein Problem, ich wollte nur nett sein und die Chance zur Bearbeitung geben 🙂 | Understanding is not an issue, I just wanted to be nice and provide an opportunity to edit your message 🙂

[toxic siren]

So did I see that correctly that one of the groups in the event will be able to SELF-revive using Necro?
Because Imo that feels like a MASSIVE bonus for one team compared to the others.

[raw bane]

What for? If the developers would simply respond to the community, it would already help most. But no, here it is only about the fucking money. This month a new event should come? Super! I'm happy for you! But have all the bugs that are regularly reported here been fixed? No... the reload bug has been there for a year and it is called new... that's a joke. To be able to play a fair game where everyone has the same conditions that would be a dream, but is just swept into the corner.... 3 new hunters are to come plus two new weapons? Are they at least bug-free or does it continue with the bugs?

[normal horizon]

the part of the reload bug that was refered to as new was the 0 ammo when picking up guns and other issues related to the reload bug

sorry it came across as if the reload bug was called new, there have been a few attempts to fix it so ofcourse it isn't actually new 🙂

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IS MMR calculating every single death in a game as strikes against you? so If I get resed and die from gang bang 10 times in one game is it counted as 10 or 1```

[queen jungle]

IS MMR calculating every single death in a game as strikes against you? so If I get resed and die from gang bang 10 times in one game is it counted as 10 or 1

[sharp veldt]

Every death counts.

[queen jungle]

So shouldn't I do a hard core approach and leave on death since every revive is worse? I res into a trap - death - I res and someone marksman my body - mmr is subjected to teammates? Even if res pulls of with no hitch I run with one shot from any long gun.

[sharp veldt]

you can play however you please. There's no prize for a higher mmr, so in my personal opinion, no reason to do that. I would personally rather play with my friends and get rezzed whenever I can 🙂 But that's just how I play, you can play however makes you happiest

[queen jungle]

The trade off would be money for possible more chance at higher MMR. Whos to say your next game with full health isn't going to make the difference from just getting downed anyways. Was MMR used when first release but hidden from the user or was it truly random?

[sharp veldt]

The current Skillbased MatchMaking (SBMM) was introduced in 2021 with the star system. Prior to that, there was an "arrow" system which showed if another player was rated higher or lower than you, but thats all. There was a matchmaking system, but it was much looser. And prior to that, it was entirely random, during the very early days.

[vast grove]

I don't mean to attack the game or developers, but this is a big concern in the game. It is my favorite FPS game and it will be sad to see if this doesn't gets taken in consideration. Hunt has got the potential to be amazing...

[cedar coyote]

What does the message contain? It's a bit on the long side and I can't quite make out what you're getting at

[queen jungle]

Thanks for your clarification. Good day.

[vast grove]

It is hundreds of hunt players that has given up because of the bugs, these are allot of people to loose.

[cedar coyote]

From where?

[vast grove]

There is also the youtube video to go with that where you can have a look at proof videos

May I share the link?

[cedar coyote]

DM it to me ❤️

[vast grove]

Sent it, if anyone else wants it just DM me

[cursive jewel]

KDA really just needs to be a hidden stat so all these people stop focusing on it so much rofl

[vocal ember]

@hard minnow Pls Fix that You cant aim with Aimpunch

[golden nacelle]

hey i got a problem, everytime i swap my weapons to an enemy weapon its automatically unloaded and i got 0 reserve ammo is this a known issue or am i the problem?

[cursive jewel]

Nope its just yet another bug

[golden nacelle]

oof

very sad i cant change my guns mid fight

[cursive jewel]

Its okay I'm sure 1.11 will introduce plenty more to focus on instead

[golden nacelle]

lol

also just got out with 2 bounties and 2 kill 1 death but im down a star any reason why would that be or it wasnt as good of a game as i thought

[cursive jewel]

Dying to someone 2 stars or more beneath you especially is a huge tank to your rating. 2 kills at your own rating are worth fewer points than you lost

Same as killing people below your rank rewards basically nothing

[golden nacelle]

i mean there shouldnt be a 22 star player on a 4 star lobby should there

2*

[cursive jewel]

There definitely can be

[golden nacelle]

:/

[cursive jewel]

Especially with how cool it is that you can go to quickplay, tank your stats for no penalty and then queue into normal mode with a lowered star rating

[golden nacelle]

oh thats cool

[cursive jewel]

I'm only ever 5-6 star but occasionally 2-3 stars wander their way into my matches. Just depends if they have the option to match only around their rank on or not

[golden nacelle]

oh damn

unlucky i guess

anyways back to being a dirty little goblin

[burnt mulch]

@queen jungle you do realize that depending on how strict the difference needs to be, this is either just going back to “first data to the server wins” which brings back peeker’s advantage, or “this is how it works already, but the limit needs to be reduced”, right?

also ping abuse lul

[crystal plume]

Also the "solution" is basically asking to make it how it used to be but in a unnecessarily complex way 😄

Where people's shots would often not register during trades because they were already dead server side

[limpid umbra]

You missed those shots rightfully so

[worthy knoll]

Thats only possible for Solos and it Costs certain stuff so its more or less once per Match.

[frosty garnet]

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Description:
 A new Caldwell Rival 78 variant inspired by the German Drilling M30 to give the gun some actual love not just skins

In-game-Description: 
A Modified version of the Rival 78 Shotgun that features a third barrel, firing a powerful Rifle cartridge to increase the weapons performance at longer distances. 

Name: Caldwell Rival 78 Triplet

Stats (Shotgun Barrels)

Damage: 175
Effective Range: 12m
Rate of Fire: 90rpm
Handling: 80%
Reload: 4 seconds
Muzzle Velocity: 400m/s
Melee (weak): 27
Melee (heavy): 54
Ammo: 2/4

Stats (Rifle Barrel)
Ammo-type: Long
Damage: 120
Effective Range: 132m
Rate of Fire: 19rpm
Handling: 80%
Reload: 3,1 seconds
Muzzle Velocity: 440m/s
Melee (weak): 27
Melee (heavy): 54
Ammo: 1/4

Price: 275$
Special Ammo Types:
- Pennyshot (2/6) 5$
- Flechette (2/4) 20$
- Slugs (2/2) 65$
- Dum-Dum (1/4, 400m/s) 40$
- Spitzer (1/2, 100dmg, 550m/s) 75$

Notes:
- Switching Firing mode by standard X on PC/ D-Pad up on console 
- The reason the rifle barrel is not a full rifle in terms of stats, is simply because of balance, nobody would want a shotgun with a Sparks attached to it, but I think a stats-wise Uppercut-Sparkspistol Hybrid is fine.```

[worthy knoll]

@queen jungle
Why should a more or less full sized rifle With Long ammo have less damage than a Shirt Revolver aka Uppercut. 120 dmg for this is only feasable If Uppercut get down to this too, Otherwise it makes No Sense.

[burnt mulch]

comparing it to the best high-powered sidearm in the game that compares favorably to many fullsized rifles isnt the gotcha you think it is…

[spiral steeple]

Am I an idiot, or if you choose fire, and only FIRE as a filter, at the equipment menu, nothing shows up, it says that "there is nothing to show due to filters", while obviously, there are fire weapons X'D

[spiral steeple]

also that is not the first time, that damage history is not handling the data too well, like separates poison damage, while not mentioning, while also changing and saying, that poison damage "was another person", cause it has the same time delay, while saying a different distance to the killer (from the same fire, at the same moment)..:

[soft river]

@prime orchid pump aciton rifle is second best suggestion

first is cent aperture

not biased

[queen jungle]

Balance ? Since its still meant to be Shotgun primarily

[sick anvil]

@proud narwhal no i am saying dlc skins should not blend in as the devs said in their Dev stream when cain was “ adjusted “ so he is easier to spot

[proud narwhal]

Every skin they've put out after that has a defining feature though??

[sick anvil]

If you say so

[proud narwhal]

Reaper has his white mask, both of the new skins that aren't out yet both have a diverse color palette

All of the skins except headsmen are pretty easy to spot unless they haven't moved and are in deep brush

Headsmen is still broken but at least he was free

[royal horizon]

I hope Perchta will actually look white, and we're not getting pranked by the lighting like with the Concubine

[proud narwhal]

I'm thinking by the first person view ittl be a nice grey

[royal horizon]

Yeah

[proud narwhal]

I'm seriously considering maining that skin, it really scratches that nice part of my brain

[royal horizon]

I like the Dawn version too

The white one

[royal horizon]

White furry goat woman 🥰

[proud narwhal]

God hearing that in a hunt game makes me brain melt but they did it lmao

[royal horizon]

Yeah, me too. Funny when you think about it

[royal horizon]

Ima be playing it a lot too I think, I main Daughter of Decay because she has such nice first person gloves

(Unlike the reaper who has cadaver hands)

[proud narwhal]

One of the biggest reasons I played with the bone doctor is the sick paint he has on his hands

[royal horizon]

I don't play him a lot so I don't know, but having nice fp hands is a must

[worthy knoll]

Then let it be Medium ammo and 120 is fine, although anything anything below 125 gets the "centennial Treatment"...

Otherwise its unlogical to ne so underpowered for a Long ammo rifle. Just makes No Sense..

[royal horizon]

it doesn't need to make sense, it just needs to be viable in a balance sense

[lean estuary]

It seems strange to me that people would rather swag out and have super-duel shootouts with no PVE on the map, than have skins that might be harder to see but match the themes and tone Hunt has maintained since it started. Do you guys want a different game?? Cowboy Valorant? Is the only appeal to people the slow rate-of-fire weapons?

[sick anvil]

Well every other appeal got already dropped to the toilet by updates.
And you do not need to change the dark and girthy theme .
because all it would take is separate the color pallets by 3-4 shades
Example . black in environment is 36 36 36 and black on hunter clothing is 0 0 0
At the other hand people stopped bitching about this because Reshade simply fixes this by turning up the saturation to 11 turning the game in to candy land

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https://www.huntshowdown.com/roadmap```

[worthy knoll]

Well yes it does. On the simple fact that a Long ammo rifle should be powerful.

And for consistency, all Guns that get a longer barrel in the Game (Bornheim Match, nagant Carbine) also get more damage. Which is... lets say realistic.

So a Long Ammo gun With a Barrel way longer than a Pistol should do more damage.

But my solution was easy, Just let it be Medium ammo. Then 120 is fine.
It Just removes the Option of spitzer Special Ammo. Which is not that bad really

[royal horizon]

medium ammo would bring down the so-called realism you crave from big game hunting bullet to centennial tickling ammo

but the issue really comes from medium ammo than anyting else

you could also justify the weaker bullet by the fact that break action rifles that the barrel is shorter and weaker than on a Sparks or Martini and thus has less distance to speed up

[lean estuary]

the girth is the best part

[opal arch]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2160330/Hunt_Showdown__Frau_Perchta/ https://tenor.com/view/furry-die-stupid-alert-kill-gif-16322964

Steam

Hunt: Showdown – Frau Perchta

This DLC contains one Legendary Hunter with two variations, two Legendary weapons, and one Legendary consumable: Perchta: Dawn (Hunter), Perchta: Dusk (Hunter), Midwinter Tusk (Martini-Henry IC1), Unkempt (LeMat Mark II), and The Avalanche (Frag Bomb).  Old stories and grim fairytales speak of midwinter reckonings that reward the good and punish...

Release Date

Dec 13, 2022

▶ Play video

Big fan of the new Hunter.

Will empty my wallet to buy.

[royal horizon]

i hope it'll be better than the concubine

but i've been craving a LeMat skin for a while

im tired of Brass Flower

[lean estuary]

I’m not really sure what you mean that the other appealing parts of the game were dropped into the toilet by updates…I’m saying the idea of making bright focal points on characters to make gameplay “more fair”, is misguided, and influenced by habits built up from flicky run n’ gun games popular with many PC gamers/E-Sports fans

It seems people who don’t like or understand the suspense or horror-driven tone where listening, planning, and positioning are important, want only fast - draw duels where everyone has the same weapon and the twitchiest guy has the most “skill”

Bonus points if you have a swag character skin while doing it

Dirty tricks frowned upon

If you brought and used the bigger gun, it’s a crutch

[sick anvil]

Funny that I have not played a FPS game for a decade before picking up Hunt , and all what you are saying makes no sense to me

[lean estuary]

Well, you can always look out for motion, movement is usually a bigger giveaway than a hunters clothing color anyway 🤷🏻‍♂️

[sick anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-picard-clap-applaud-applause-gif-18140248

[vocal ember]

servers down?

[primal ether]

maybe maintenance. like most wednesdays

[worthy knoll]

I agree.

But Medium ammo is Just so useless

[worthy knoll]

A big Game hunting Bullet that does less damage than the centennial is No real big Game hunting Bullet in my opinion...

So yeah, Medium ammo sucks...

[royal horizon]

Idk

I would just like to have a combination rifle in the game

[lean estuary]

Combo drilling is a good idea 👍

[royal horizon]

I agree

[crystal plume]

Like this? 👀 #game-ideas message

[royal horizon]

very good suggestion, is the buckhorn sight aestehic or is it meant as a balance point ?

[crystal plume]

I think it was aesthetic when I was making it, it was around the same time as BF1/BFV I think and I enjoyed that ironsight on most of my guns so I was like "I want this in Hunt as well"

[royal horizon]

why not, could be interesting

[lean estuary]

Excellent! Nice to see people have been talking about it for a while

[royal horizon]

maybe if we "suggest" it enough the devs will give in like with the Ironside and the Alamo

[crystal plume]

It would be interesting to update my suggestion while considering current features and balance of Hunt, like what custom ammo types would the secondary fire support

Like the generic spitzer/fmj and incendiary would probably be given, but something like poison at the range where you want to use a shotgun anyways could be interesting

First tapping them with poison and then chasing with shotgun, but that might even be too annoying now that I think about it

[royal horizon]

I love devilish loadouts

poison + shotgun seems fun

and if you can't get flechette on the Rival you could poison + bleed'em

[bronze granite]

Crytek deleted Weekly Quests from game ? Seriuosly ?

[signal mural]

Summons replaced that system more than half a year ago... same idea, but always achievable with more variable grind.

[bronze granite]

Summons were bad anyway. Nothing of value is lost.

[worthy knoll]

Summons are still there

[little carbon]

@queen jungle it's already working like that, kinda. Any kill that is detected Clientside gets validated or invalidated by the server. If it happened locally after the death timestamp it will get invalidated. The issue that most people can't get their head around is that time is not something fixed when talking about netcode, but an attribute of each partaking system. So in a 1v1 you already have 3 timelines, that are all "correct" only in their respective systems.

The most important thing to notice is that the current system isn't in favor of the high ping player, but the aggressive player. The higher the ping difference between two players the more amplified peakers advantage becomes. Notice though that this effect is symmetrical.
And a good chunk of weird delayed "getting killed"s people experience aren't actually the other guy shooting delayed. It's you living longer than you should, because the data is still in transfer. Because remember, when you see the enemy shoot, they already shot a long time ago

[glossy pendant]

I dont think we need to nerf fast firing weapons, since they are usually short-ammo. Correct me if I am wrong, but long-ammo still dominates the game imho.

[sharp veldt]

@hot vigil we are currently gathering the data on those affected by this and will provide more details when the new system is introduced

[hot vigil]

Cool, thanks for the fast feedback.

[sharp veldt]

@rare tide can you send me a screenshot or a video?

[tacit portal]

I’ve noticed on console that I had a very difficult time matchmaking until I reached level 100. It would take 5+ minutes to get random teammates for matchmaking. I assumed that very few players were online. After reaching level 100 I get partners in seconds. I can’t imagine that this is great for new player retention.

[radiant river]

the alternative is new players potentially matching with more experienced players and getting destroyed

[still basin]

Pax fanning was buffed but I hardly notice a difference. Anyone else's thoughts?

[warm lake]

It’s much better in my opinion

[dapper fiber]

@daring zinc roadmap was removed on purpose, it's not supposed to be there

[limpid umbra]

What in the hell

[dapper fiber]

sorry bro im not akinator, i dont think anyone knows what you're complaining about

[limpid umbra]

Small text

Was getting to that my bad

[dapper fiber]

what small text

[limpid umbra]

I didnt used to be that small i dont think

The levels

[dapper fiber]

looks normal to me

[limpid umbra]

Swear to christ it got smaller

[dapper fiber]

maybe it did in today's 1.11 update

i havent logged on yet today

[versed verge]

ye its small

before it was better

[crystal plume]

@glass fractal Just a reminder that the feedback channel is not for commenting on others' feedback posts, this is the channel for that 🤠

[glass fractal]

I am sorry, Mr. Diiba ❤️

[glass fractal]

lulz, bro. Check your eye, no offense, haha

[sick anvil]

yep the font got smaller

also arsenal and store ui got changed

[cursive jewel]

@steel coral You've gotta be joking right rofl

[steel coral]

i don't joke about that

[cursive jewel]

All I can do is laugh, good luck with that one

[steel coral]

i have no kind words for you so just go away

[coral nymph]

So,

1. why the hell did I lose half of my "favorite" marks on equipment? Apparently it happened because someone thought it would be a good idea to change it from "specific skin only" to "any and all skins of said weapon variant," but that still does not answer the question "WHY?!" I mean, cool to have that option I guess, but forcing it on everyone is dumb.

2. why was the Dark Tribute animation changed? Was someone crying too hard about it promoting self-harm or some BS like that?

[cursive jewel]

Riwi, I'd gamble $50 its a fuck up on their part

and not an intended feature. Also considering you have captain militant complaining about how his cross is being used, you're probably right on the money with that self harm bullshit

[coral nymph]

You mean the whole thing, or just the removal of some of the marks?

[cursive jewel]

I mean it favoriting ALL of skins vs just the one you want to favorite

Because no one with an IQ above room temperature would thing that's a good thing to force

[coral nymph]

Hm, idk, it struck me as one of the dumber and no-one-asked-for-this updates, but who knows, maybe you are right.

[cursive jewel]

Not just no one asking, but it just makes literally no sense. If you wanna favorite all of the skins of a weapon, its just a few clicks, and 90% of people probably only want to favorite one or two skins at most so it just would be an ass backwards thing to do on purpose

[coral nymph]

I mean, yeah, but it is not like Hunt has not received a fair few stupid updates/changes in the past year or so.

[cursive jewel]

Well you most certainly aren't wrong

[hybrid gale]

@queen jungle #game-ideas message yes please! We desperately need a way to counter this effin annoying flash bombs...

[echo fulcrum]

Audio is still jacked up. Will someone PLEASE fix or at least acknowledge the fact that this game requires myself and others I have spoken to with similar issues, to have the game at 100% volume and still its quiet? All other media, games and videos I have volume max at 64 percent and its loud. This games last big update before this one broke it and I've sent in many reports as have others.

[queen jungle]

My initial thought was for the trait to only cover flashbombs and just make the hunter immune to their effect, but then I was like, that would make flashbombs useless if hypothetically speaking everybody equipped an anti-flash perk all the time, so I opted to instead include the deafening and coughing as well since I personally find those just as annoying, and with "just" a 50% reduction flashbomb will still blind you for 2,5 Seconds, so their value and purpose is still there

[lyric rivet]

"Having difficulty lighting a enemy on fire? Infernal Pacts are immune to burning" not when they are downed@signal mural

[worthy knoll]

So, any News If the people (I am Not one of Them) who bought the extra summon Slot get their BBs Back?

[signal mural]

Downed enemies don't count for burn quests

[hot vigil]

Got this as a feedback in this channel :)

[daring zinc]

Now the gears are turnin buddy

[worthy knoll]

Alright. Lets See.
Best Case scenario: Crytek lost the Data who boght it and everyone gets 300 BBs but at least those that Payed should be reimbursed. Since the new system could be different and people paid Money for a Bonus they knew they wanted.

[hot vigil]

I have little hopes.

But just return my BB would be nice

[mossy narwhal]

Why not just let the Summons week finish? I honestly cannot understand the reasoning behind Crytek's bizzare decisions sometimes.

[worthy knoll]

Without any anouncement is the weird Part

[worthy knoll]

Me too

[hot vigil]

Maybe they deleted it by accident during the update

[mossy narwhal]

They did mention it - I have no idea where. Maybe it was a tweet. They don't have a unified PR team, apparently, because it's different messages in different places. So disorganized, and really, a bizarre decision to just kill it mid-week.

[rain idol]

true!... and i spent 300 BB on it so i could have done 3 summons in one week

[knotty ore]

So, summons are gone permanently?

[hearty rivet]

Getting replaced next week

[knotty ore]

Ah nice, lets hope its not poorly implemented.

[mossy narwhal]

Dark Tribute is nonsensical now. Putting bullets in a spittoon...Did someone complain about the blood sacrifice looking too "satanic"?

[crystal plume]

@hearty rivet @eager cobalt Please do not tag CMs/devs who are currently not active in the chat

[eager cobalt]

oh sry sry

Im ok if he reads later

[vocal tree]

Thanks for all the hardwork Hunt Team. Now to fix the next glaring/annoying issues in the game.. I know the reload bug is pending, but beyond that, the traps being set next to barrels (or on the ground on uneven terrain in general) needs to be addressed. There are MANY instances of trying to place traps next to barrels on terrain that is visually flat, but will not place. This seems like it can be fixed to where 9 times out of 10 a player can place a trap successfully instead of 4 to 6 times out of 10.

[half stag]

@hearty rivet It's just a pay2skip option to get to the next "roll" faster. (And given that it uses premium currency to do that, is prob why you're restricted from buying it)

[hearty rivet]

Why would they change the wording to "enhance" then? (Not that it matters but I'm not Belgian, I can use it)

[half stag]

to make it sound more enticing Ig? cause that restriction was there for Dark Tribute before they changed the wording

[hearty rivet]

That would be hella misleading to make people believe it actually changes the odds

[raw slate]

Christmas music. Are you putting it back in soon? Pianos/record players etc. If not, why do you hate us?

[steel dawn]

It’s a chamber pot and they’re poo nuggets

[upbeat coral]

i feel you on this, i hate looking at this screen so much. it fucks with my autism. its a different font size to the names now.

[limber meadow]

So you didn't give the bb back for the feature you gave us for only a few months(weekly missions). -rep cryteck

[limpid umbra]

@fair rover do you not see the people in the match?

theres only 6 people for that mmr

[fair rover]

Oh the small amount of people? Yeah their are alot more 3-5 stars then 6 stars thats just how it is with a 6 star

[limpid umbra]

It shouldnt happen

[fair rover]

What shouldnt?

You put skill based with a 6 star with you

Thats how that goes

[limpid umbra]

I mean, i was with 2 other people one time. i feel like there are more 6 stars in the united states servers than just 4 other fucking people lol

[fair rover]

Yeah but they might be in a match

Add crossplay that might help

[frosty garnet]

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This would be a nice change/fix for Lebel Reload animation. Of course with a reasonable balance in animation speed or something like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9V3vW8psEE```

[terse gull]

Why do developers literally bring things that ruins the atmosphere of the game, first that "major victory" bullshit and now changing dark tribute, you might as well make the game childish enough if the game wasn't supposed to have a dystopian look

[burnt mulch]

??

[royal horizon]

I agree, but the Dark Tribute being changed is because of lore reasons (the event is litterally about killing Chary) but it will hopefully revert back after the event, because it looks way worse than the old Dark Tribute

[craggy pike]

Makes me think they want to drop their rating from mature to teen

[ivory crater]

Cut hand > magic pot

[chrome plover]

just because we're not all slashing our wrists doesn't make us "childish" lmao

what is this edgy nonsense

its event related

[terse gull]

The game is literally made to be edgy, and it's not the wrist, are you blind

I have a better one, do you know what is a wrist, do you know human anatomy at a basic level at all or like are you even human at this point

Better yet, you might as well play some childish game if you dislike dystopian atmosphere on the games

[signal mural]

@bitter quartz Not allowing console cross-play, as far as I have understood from Mods, is a Playstation decision.

[bitter quartz]

@signal mural i don't know what you're talking about, crossplay has been turned on across consoles for awhile now. I just wish it was a bit more optimized.

[queen jungle]

Cutting isn't exclusive to the wrist, but other parts of the body.

[terse gull]

You must be new here, there's no such thing as cutting the wrist in this game

[queen jungle]

Cutting isn't about suicide, but related to psychological relief associated with past trauma

[terse gull]

I get it, you're gonna give me some useless information that i already know about, please keep it topic related

Game related in fact

[queen jungle]

Well your argument is somewhat flawed.

[terse gull]

The flawed thing isn't my argument but your way of comprehending what is written

[crystal plume]

Please do not resort into antagonizing others

[terse gull]

With me having said that, just keep it game related and if you're replying to me just keep it on the perspective of the topic of old and new dark tribute offering

[queen jungle]

The old dark tribute may have been triggering for people with certain psychological proclivities. The new dark tribute removes that trigger and therefore is better.

[crystal plume]

I don't personally mind the change due to that, it wasn't a huge issue for me per se but I'm not a huge fan of watching animations/videos of inflicting self harm or such

[chrome plover]

i learnt something new today, Hunt Showdown is an EDGY game

when can i get my floppy emo haircut teenager crytek

[terse gull]

Are you new to dystopian genre?

[queen jungle]

I think the previous version has established foundations into old witchcraft practices of blood magic which gives it an authenticity of the occult.

[chrome plover]

yea ive never heard of zombies or dystopia before

[queen jungle]

So it looks a tiny bit cooler for some of the players.

[terse gull]

The game is about that honestly, basically, you banish monsters you kill hunters you do weird stuff in the end

[chrome plover]

if you want edgelord, look at something like darktiders or the new evil west game

[burnt mulch]

are we really complaining about them taking out the hand slice thing

[wary hinge]

Hunt showdown can fairly easily fall into the "edgy" category whether you want slice hand or not

[terse gull]

Will you stop saying stupid shit or do i have to explain it every damn time?

[chrome plover]

its a conspiracy to make hunt family friendly