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[lean estuary]

I’ll be your huckle bearer

[lethal dirge]

@dull prawn I agree with you

[frosty garnet]

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I had a feeling this one would be a mixed bag. Im a solo so i specifically would gain more from this one but i feel this would quicken the pace of engagements and reduce camping. The pen loss is a pretty big setback too and it'd be a good alternative for the ever dominant FMJ
Both would be very fun imo```

[limpid umbra]

@valid pecan i like your idea, but have you actually ever been shot by fire ammo? Its pretty scary and causes some panic. Id say its not completely useless, but the burn dead hunter function could be applied to shotguns since its a wider spread and would make more sense

[valid pecan]

I have been shot by it plenty and ill take fire over poison or bleed any day
Fire isnt dangerous in the now, when it matters. At range? Cover and you dont lose a healthbar.
Up close? Well, either it doesnt matter cus most guns are a 2hit kill. Or when it does, well youre already at sub 50 health so the fire can rage on for 100hp before youre in any danger of it killing you there. And that is worst case scenario.
That just ... doesnt really happen in my experience.
It genuinly feels pointless to me rn. I'll take base ammo over it because even compact pen values are more valuable to me than the off chance that incen rounds might chip away a 25hp chunk from someone.

[limpid umbra]

Its pretty good on borhiem for quick barrel explosions, which is pretty useful

[valid pecan]

Well yeah but its the only use it has imo.
And the bornheim isnt exactly in the best of spots, with its low ammo capacity and a desperate need for BG if you're not taking 2 compact ammo weapons with thesame special ammo.
I just think, if you're gonna have it and there are already fire mechanics in the game, why not extend them to their logical next step?
Youre on fire, it would seem only logical to me that being shot to down you would not put out the fire.

[limpid umbra]

tru

[royal horizon]

@hasty frigate You want free healthcare ???? In america ????

[dense schooner]

Lmao what

[worthy knoll]

Yes! As it should be.

[lethal dirge]

Bayou has better healthcare than most of the country tbh

Free first aid everywhere

Banish a boss, cure your chronic diseases

[dense spade]

Genuine Question
Is the Single Shot Avto thing bannable?
those who dont know its where you shoot 1 avto bullet then hold darksight
It unchambers 3 bullets but only shoots one

Looks flashy for clips but in reality its a pointless exploit

[worthy knoll]

Never heard of it before Hut jf it is an explizit yes it should be bannable

[frosty garnet]

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Not my idea, but this would be awesome.Title: Custom hunters
Desc: tier 1-2(3 maybe)hunter except you can select they're clothing and name maybe but with only tier 1-2(3 maybe ) clothing and choose they're nick name if you want one. This will all cost blood bonds per item you add each item will have a different cost possibly```

[zenith wagon]

@regal path are you talking about USE vs USW?

in that case you can just que into one by unselecting your secondary server

[regal path]

giving this a shot. Last time i tried was pre going to brazil patch where when deselecting secondary it would default you to SA

[zenith wagon]

I see

[regal path]

me n my boys just tried and it allowed us to and both of them are blown away because they remember being forced to choose a secondary

I hope you have a wonderful night homie this is hugew

[zenith wagon]

nice

[zinc solstice]

@loud nebula bro just throw fire at them

you have bombs that explode into fire

and the two tap thing isnt really a problem for incen, just use compact

especially bornheim

double stacked alert mines cause hunters to light as well

[loud nebula]

You missed the point. I'm getting less quest points for the more difficult task.

It's not that I can't do it or am struggling, it's more risk for less reward

[zinc solstice]

i would say its just as easy to light up a hunter

you dont have a chance to just not light someone because they took an antidote

[golden cloak]

Can we make the hunters in the waiting for game menu with a Romero not rest their hand over the barrel of the shot gun? The gun safety side of me shutters when I see that.

[hybrid gale]

@loud nebula the quest/summons don't specify to use incendiary. Same with bleed and poison. You can always use throwables to make the hunter bleed/burn/poisoned

[frosty garnet]

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What about...
A kind of whale harpoon or grappling hook for bomb lance that allows You to knock down enemy Hunters just as Spider does. Range as shotgun.  Easy to implement (knockdown effect is ready).```

[vernal plover]

What about...A kind of whale harpoon or grappling hook for bomb lance that allows You to knock down enemy Hunters just as Spider does. Range as shotgun. Easy to implement (knockdown effect is ready).

[unborn smelt]

Not to my knowlege, because its not really an exploit.
The devs made it so even single shots have random deviation and you always loose 3 rounds even if you cancel shooting on purpose.

So all you do is loose 3 bullets, to fire a single inaccurate bullet. They are literally gimping themselves...

[loud nebula]

Throwables have equal chance of poisoning/burning/bleeding a hunter, but bullets do not.

[hybrid gale]

Balancing wise it is better that you can immediatly set hunters on fire since that is damage you can't just heal away.
Poison is very easy to counter and bleed somewhat easy with bloodless.
But even with salveskin you loose health you can heal when you start burning after you take the first hit

[dense schooner]

dragon’s breath already does that and the range is kind of ridiculous on that thing. setting hunter’s on fire with a single bullet would be stupidly OP. it’s already easy enough to do with the bornheim.

[hybrid gale]

The only issue I see is that most weapons kill with the second hit instead of setting the hunter on fire

[valid pecan]

@vivid rune What point would chain ammo serve? No point in adding ammo for the sake of it. It needs to have an identity, something to set it appart

[grave iris]

I guess it might shoot out a snake-like projectile and inflict bleeding on hit.

It might be more effective than flachette close range, but less effective at longer ranges.

It might be more unreliable at close range one shotting than penny shot and would deal less bleeding than flachette at longer ranges.

[jaunty lagoon]

Have they added paxx fmj yet?

[still basin]

Lol

@grave iris

[valid pecan]

Giving everything fmj seems pointless, guns should be generally rebalanced to make FMJ or other ammos a harder choice
Like a nagant being the only compact with FMJ would be interesting because it is arguably the worst pistol by default
This would make people choose between the incredible potency of FMJ but a worse gun or leaving FMJ but having superior weaponry

[fresh lynx]

Similar to Martini/Sparks, the Scottfield/Pax are very close to each other in terms of performance. I could see buffing the Pax with better base velocity as a solution, and giving it HV instead of FMJ would help carve out more of a ranged niche than the wallbang/high RoF that the spitfire variant offers

Along with the perennial suggestions of stock and longer barrel variants for the Pax

Only concern then would be if Vetterli with more HV reserves is busted, which I don't think it would be but I'm not 100% sure on that.

[worthy knoll]

I have Made a similar Suggestion before.
Differentiation of Glorious Pax and ... Scottfield by making Them Pax into the "Marksman handgun" With HV and Carbine etc

[fresh lynx]

Yeah it's definitely not from left field! I love the sound of the gun and we all want more good reasons to run it

[still basin]

Problem is scottfield has tons of variants and ammo types. Pax has...well 2

Ammo types

Pax needs love big time

Pax buntline needs to happen

Sick of carbines and precisions, I want unique variants

[fresh lynx]

Oh yeah, whole new meaning to "long gun" 😝

https://tenor.com/view/joker-batman-big-gun-gun-jack-nicholson-gif-13724041

[still basin]

Lmao yes

[pulsar quest]

Give me a handgun with a scope! No stock, no precision—I want an Uppercut with a Marksman scope!

Cause fuck that guy way over there!

[lean estuary]

I use the Pax (sometimes with dum dums) all the time…go to sidearm

I think I have more close up kills with that and a heavy knife than any other weapon (console)

[pallid umbra]

Wait the sticky bomb explosion thing got removed?

[valid pecan]

Surpressed nagant pistol with sniper scope pls

[pallid umbra]

I tried it last night I put sticky bombs around the boat extract, tried triggering with explosive ammo did not work….

[half stag]

may be a bug, cause the hive bomb one still works. + Throwables don't bob in the water if they're thrown into water, they just vanish, except for the ones that just "defuse" and can still be detonated by external means.

[lean estuary]

Does it not work with standard dynamite or bundles?

Poison bombs and hive bombs I can see working

[pulsar quest]

Heeey, someone said my suggestions are crap. That ain’t very nice. ):

[lean estuary]

Blongus not a fan of skin color changes?

[main cradle]

Shocker

[lean estuary]

Weirdly seems like a lot of people aren’t around here. I don’t think it would be that difficult to make more splash screens with dark skinned hunters, though.

[unborn dagger]

They couldn't be more right.

[half stag]

I think its the idea of replacing the old screen for "muh representation", when they could just add more ones instead

[lean estuary]

Right, that’s why I’m saying they could add new, different splash screens

[half stag]

agreed

[lean estuary]

Seems like an easy compromise with what Lawrence was proposing…not sure why people get outraged…Lawrence even said it could just be easier than making new ones, but I think it would be easy enough

[unborn dagger]

If there's one thing a game should focus on last it's representation. Especially when someone suggests replacing a character that was already there to be black. Just add new ones like you guys have said.

[lean estuary]

I wouldn’t say it’s the last thing they should focus on, but I also don’t usually like replacing characters either. I’m just surprised by the strong reaction some people have

[unborn dagger]

It's like you said people don't like having characters being replaced for the sake of representation, it's unnecessary and disrespectful

If you want to want to make new ones go right ahead, people don't have an issue with that

[lean estuary]

Yeah. And! It’s a good idea to take the representation thing seriously.

[pulsar quest]

I just think it’d be good to show off more of a range of Hunters in the marketing. We got whites, Asians, blacks, Tier 1s, Tier 2s, Tier 3s, eyepatches, mountain beards, coats, cloaks, crossbows, bomb-lances—

It’d be a relatively simple change that could offer a greater representation of what the game has to offer, and make some sort of interesting artistic statement at the same time, hence my initial idea of the black woman paired with a more Confederate-coded man.

Crytek could make a new splash screen, or change the existing one; whichever’s easier on their art department.

Would it be more palatable to make a new screen that would then replace the current one, than it would be to modify the current one?

[lean estuary]

You could even just have several splash screens that cycle each time the game is opened, its not necessary to replace the one with the two hunters facing the camera

(On Xbox that splash screen isn’t even there anymore, it’s this one - )

Anyway

[unborn dagger]

And it's already there, your suggestion is forcing representation by replacing something that doesn't need to be replaced which is not needed.

And yeah the new main menu literally features a black guy.

[pulsar quest]

Have I been saying the wrong thing? I meant the loading screen! The splash art for the loading screen!

[unborn dagger]

That's fine I guess but I don't really see how that would help much with representation than the dlcs they've been making to do representation like the Chinese New Year hunters.

Or even the Indian event

Like having an event for that specific race would be much more helpful, if it makes sense obviously.

[pulsar quest]

I dunno, I just thought it would be a nice, relatively easy change Crytek could make.

[queen jungle]

There is virtually no marketing for this game. Though if there were, I'm not sure I'd buy it. Western with supernatural doesn't seem to get any consumer interest. To be honest, as much as I like Red Dead Redemption 2, it's rare for me to like Westerns in games. I look at Weird West having the same theme but also being niche.

I only found Hunt during steam sales while doing a heavy search for any active multiplayer games in the Top 50 most played. Other extraction loot based games also required searching.

The only reason I stuck with Hunt during the 1,000 hours of playing is because of it's unique gameplay of stealthy PVP and blended PVE. Very few multiplayer games have a silent killer. Even in Battlefield where you can snipe from a distance, you're marked brightly.

Though I have been suggesting more tracking and stalking skills, I think it would only make the game less "hardcore" and diminish what makes Hunt special.

[lean estuary]

Thanks for writing out a longer opinion, I really like hearing what kind of impression other people have of the game, and it’s themes and style…

You’re definitely right, and I agree that the marketing sucks.
Personally I think I’ve been interested in Hunt, honestly, because it doesn’t (or didnt) do a lot of the things that interest current consumer-gamers that I don’t find appealing and that seem to become ubiquitous across the game market. The artists came up with great realistic, consistent characters and settings for an era right at the end of the Gilded Age USA, and before the Progressive Era (lots of change and uncertainty, doomsday Christian cults, advances in natural science)…and combined it with a lot of HP Lovecraft/Southern Gothic styled horror ideas, set in the extremely creepy, lonely, isolated swamps of the deep southern USA. It’s great because it isn’t really Wild West, or Weird West, even though superficially some of those elements are there (Cattle Hats! Revolvers! Lever guns!) but I think most players “get” those elements, and sort of focus on and never move past them. And since it’s easy to understand, that’s what’s shared most. Streamers and E-thletes have also kind of contributed to this weird way of consuming media that’s very focused on game mechanics, logistics, and treats the artistic parts of games as meaningless superficial dressing.

The PVP/PVE type really supports all the positive stuff that I mentioned..It seems well thought out! And it’s entertaining (in a scary way).

It still has a lot of potential to be a great classic, if Crytek supports it. Or, it could slowly drift away from what’s it’s supposed to be, propelled by gamers wanting it to be something else.

[queen jungle]

Referring to Weird West, I mean the game. It's a game made by former Dishonored developers that combined the Wild West with the supernatural. Immediately, I thought of Hunt Showdown. But it's only hit niche popularity, almost no one knows about it similarly to how Hunt started out. It took two years for Hunt to hit the numbers of 20k concurrent steam players. So even with marketing I doubt it would substantially increase sales because consumers aren't that driven for these two blended themes.

Can this game become a classic? Who knows, maybe the popularity of Warzone's DMZ will eventually spill into Hunt. Though the opposite has happened during release. One thing though, Hunt's gameplay mechanics is very simplistic. There are no ultimates or abilities to create new plays. It's strategies are mostly camping and repositioning.

I want it to evolve but it would also take away what makes this game so pleasant. I think of CS:GO. It's very popular and it's shooting mechanics is also basic. Yet it's popularity has lasted decades, if you count the older games. People may just be satisfied with the simple.

[lean estuary]

Ok, got it, I thought you’re talking about the genre it’s named after. Looking at Wild West now, the stylistic tone still seems much different than Hunt.
I actually DO wish the gameplay would get more complicated, with more tools and options available to the player, and maybe put a little more emphasis on the strategy side, not just run n gun

[queen jungle]

The reason I stick with this game is because I think there's huge potential for improvements. But I'm not sure where those improvements should be. Custom Ammo was a good addition. But they need more than that.

The stalker beetle needs to be beefed up. It's currently a useless tool. I don't see many opposing teams using it. Maybe it could use an auto follow AI command, that pings every 10 seconds so the player can set it and forget it.

Before the stalker beetle was created, I thought there would be more Dark Sight powers. This include interaction with objects and having different sight tracking skills. A less efficient bounty sight that doesn't require the bounty. Similar to poison sight but even less useful. A barebones version.

To combat against so many new visual Dark Sights, I think they have to create a counter to it as well. Decoy Bounty Sight flagging.

[lean estuary]

Yeah, Dark Sight powers would be great…maybe just repairs though? I would like more control over what you load out with, and how you customize weapons…maybe move to a weight point system instead of slots

[royal horizon]

I think a weapon customisation system would be great, it would even allow for some skins to be "modulable" like for the Vetterli Deadeye skins, you'd only take off the scope and the skin stays on it

Im not too keen on the weight system because it adds maybe too much complexity to the inventors management, but changing how you equip stuff would be interesting as well

[lean estuary]

Yeah, it would be a little tricky to figure out how to balance it for sure

especially necessarily quick actions like looting

I think the weight system ( or something better) fixes some things I wish were different…like how a dynamite bundle is 3 sticks of dynamite, but occupies the same slot as a single stick

[queen jungle]

When I started playing Hunt, I really hated how we couldn't customize our weapons like CoD. I'm used to it now, but back then I really wished we could add or remove different scopes, silencers, stock, etc

Call of Duty has the BEST weapon progression system.

[lean estuary]

Yeah…I would not mind making your own custom weapons, or “paying” a gunsmith in game to make one, etc. even stuff like cutting down wicks on dynamite, or being able to build firebombs from found materials might be cool

[wind stream]

@upbeat axle keep #feedback for feedback only

[fathom geyser]

to be fair, a silenced mosin sniper would be pretty overpowered.

but yeah, i wish they'd find a way to balance it and make it possible

sounds amazing

[soft river]

@upbeat axle i'm pretty sure the +2 ammo is a bug

it only happens on special ammo

it pretty much restores some shotgun's slug count back to the original number

[upbeat axle]

I know, i was just making light of the situation.

[upbeat axle]

Ah, cool opinion, and since we are sharing opinions : Anything to do with that game of which i refuse to acknowledge its name mentioned in this chat, should get you a 24 hour ban.
Seriously fuck that game, and everything to do with it.
The whole reason why people love hunt, is because it doesnt look anything like the other games. The last thing we need is a bunch of weapon attachments so that people can play dress up with their guns as if they were barbie dolls.

[soft river]

i do like tarkov's weapon customization

but it wouldn't work in hunt

game mechanics are too matured and something like that would be too much

weapon customization like that for hunt would've had to been added very early on

[upbeat axle]

let alone refer to CoD as an example. The only example that game should be is how not to make a game.

[valid pecan]

Yeah it would also be an issue with the skins

Even tho id love a system like it, but simplified

[iron trench]

@foggy vaultThere is two already, Redshirt and Redneck we need one more...

[soft river]

i think he means a farmer type of hunter

[ancient mountain]

Laddersmiths idea of a large poison bomb has merit, but I'd go a step further and just make the standard poison bomb the equivalent of a large dynamite bundle. Right now the poison bomb is the weakest consumable

[lean estuary]

I would also like some large ampule poison bolts for the full size Crossbow

[lean estuary]

CoD 2019?

[foggy vault]

I mean more in line with famer/hill-billy looking hunters.

[valid pecan]

Its also dirt cheap
I wouldnt say its weak tho, def not for boss killing
Its just a long lasting mix between firebomb (people //mostly low stars// are scared to go through) and chokebombs, giving them an annoying effect
I do agree tho that it could use a buff

[ancient mountain]

Regular firebombs are dirt cheap too but at least it does more than poison in pvp. What other throwable is completely nullified by a shot.

[valid pecan]

Firebombs apply long term pressure but dont do too much in the moment
It takes away max hp so his battle with you isnt very affected by it in such close engagements

Poison however hurts their hearing and does actual damage of use to you (not enough, but still)

Also i like it for its pve value with the bosses
Its much easier and safer to stunlock them into that than fire

[lean estuary]

Poison bomb PVE value against an unexpected horde is good too, even if it’s less important…still quiet, and long lasting

[valid pecan]

Yeah tbh, my main use for it is its long lasting effect

Like, 5 goddamn minutes, insane

Sometimes i just take 3 of them + an antidote shot + winny + handcrossbow half poison
And the whole boss layer im defending will be coated in poison

Fun as hell and surprisingly effective

[lean estuary]

I hear Specter about the shot nullifying it, but honestly, at least on console, a lot of people seem to ignore the antidotes

[valid pecan]

The thing is that there is so much throwables bloat that its a hard choice with 4 slots

My default is 2 healing shots, a stam on most hunters cus most dont have traits, and then i have one spot left for ... ALL the other shit

I almost never bring throwables, its always shots and then i search for lunchboxes, at which point i use the shots

[ancient mountain]

But out of all the choices the poison bomb is easily the most garbage out of all of them. Even your unexpected horse gets demolished easier by fire because it covers more ground

[valid pecan]

Unexpected horse?

[ancient mountain]

Horde

[valid pecan]

Oh sure yeah, i just put great value in being silent

Cus im solo i guess

[ancient mountain]

Shit at least a hive bomb sometimes is useful

[valid pecan]

Favorite throwable by far

Just wish it wasnt so buggy

[ancient mountain]

If it tracked instantly it would be more useable

[unborn dagger]

Agreed, it definitely has a fun progression system, the best? Not sure on that tho

[valid pecan]

For sure

[ancient mountain]

There are people that bring an antidote every game still

[lean estuary]

Haha yeah, like me!

[valid pecan]

Havent played but sure as hell hunts system isnt that great
By the time you get to play certain guns its already time to prestigue again

[unborn dagger]

True but I never care to prestige in this game cause it just... sucks

[valid pecan]

If i dont have a goal to work towards (prestigue to max) i stop playing a game

Always happens with tarkov once i finissh all the quests

And then i notice i spent 75% of my raids with quest guns or bolties for the tasks that require them

Then i realise, those are bad quests

[unborn dagger]

That's similar to me as well but for pvp I just enjoy the gameplay and gaining a lot of cash. That's where the goal for me is at in hunt

[valid pecan]

Thats not a goal to me because the cash doesnt do anything in the end

My past few prestigues ive stayed at 100 for a while just to get the masteries done cus theyre near impossible to get if you dont actively go for them

Goals for me are measurable things that last

[lean estuary]

I stopped prestiging so that I have all the unlocked equipment available when I want it, and I don’t lose the cash I’ve built up, which is just about being able to get the gear or recruit a hunter that Iwant, when

[valid pecan]

I imaginr once i reach prest 100 ill just quit the game, its what usually happens

[lean estuary]

Eh

Need to spend time on real life stuff

[valid pecan]

Oh yeah i have a busy life, i just sleep less lmao

Im just lucky im still young enough i can afford this stuff

[near narwhal]

@pulsar quest i dont think you can make a smaller springfield than the springfield compact. Also a springfield bayonet would probably just be a better Martini Bayonet lol

[half stag]

Martini is a Riposte, not a bayonet. Martini Riposte outclasses it as the light, rending swing acts as a stamina-efficient onetap for grunts, while the bayonet is relegated to a weak blunt shove for the light attack. + Despite the stats ingame, the Martini has a faster reload than the springfield, meaning the only downside to the Martini is the muzzle velocity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZML-JqBn_YQ

[near narwhal]

Hu interesting. Point still stands about the wanted pistol version

[somber harbor]

I mean, they did make a sparks pistol lol

let us have a springfield pistol for all our pirate dreams

[zinc solstice]

reposte is just a better bayonet

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would be nice if this gun released a ton of smoke. game really needs at least one gun that allows you to create a smoke screen.```

[near narwhal]

The sparks has no compact variant though

[queen jungle]

@rustic sand As you already know a centered crosshair has been requested many times, but the devs have stated that implementing that option would require an extensive rework of the game since the decision was made very early on.

[lean estuary]

Small slot?

[near narwhal]

Im not talking about the pistol. Im saying you can not make the Springfield even smaller than 2 slots. Cause thats a compact variant. The spark pistol is 1 slot because thats the smallest a sparks can be.

[lean estuary]

Ah sorry, I get you

Misunderstood

[royal horizon]

Just make a wheel/flint-lock style pistol. That would be doable

[rustic sand]

so it's not a stylistic choice no more 😂

i thanks you for honestly i least

[queen jungle]

Having a lowered crosshair vs a centered one comes with pros and cons. Lowere crosshair leads to your gun occupying less space of your screen and also raises your field of view so you can better see what's happening in places above you.
Centered is what most shooters use, but lowered is not that uncommon, Halo for example has used lowered crosshair for many years.

[rustic sand]

yeah but halo used lowered crosshair for performance purposes so you don't have to texture a hand shooting etc...

[ripe basalt]

It is "stylistic" as in, intentionally designed to be a lowered crosshair. Extensive work would have to be done because of the decision to make a lowered crosshair

[rustic sand]

i mean

having the choice is always better

[ripe basalt]

I don't think anyone disagrees with options being a good thing

There are just specific reasons on why the crosshair is lowered

[rustic sand]

and the origin story around the lowered crossair in this game is so dark i thinks it's a bit of cap

[rustic sand]

why ?

[ripe basalt]

It was part of the early "design" direction the game took. There's specific technical reasons due to how your crosshair and POV meet. This met the POV direction they wanted to take

Lowered Crosshairs is intentional by design

[rustic sand]

not always

even if it's intentional i mean it's not always a good choice

it just look like an fps mod for a 3rd person game

fortnite fps

[worthy knoll]

Tbh i think the Springfield Compact should be a one Slot ... Or the Sparks Pistol a two Slot.

[digital vessel]

It keeps the guns from covering half of your screen, so you can actually see things.

[urban sonnet]

I prefer it lowered, a lot

[lean estuary]

IMHO I would like the crosshairs raised to the top of the screen so I can focus more on how my charms jangle on the weapon

[arctic trench]

@olive widget What is your MMR rating?

[olive widget]

@arctic trench Mostly 5*, somedays 4* and on bad days 3* (love those!)

[arctic trench]

@olive widget In MMR range 5-6 there are a lot of cheaters. What True_Smokescreen said is the same I observed in the last weeks.

[radiant river]

what region do you play?

[arctic trench]

@radiant river Europe

[main cradle]

When did you start playing? Just curious

[somber harbor]

yeah which makes even less sense than a springfield pistol for balancing considering it is a whole high calibre rifle sawed off to pistol size and is still accurate

[olive widget]

@main cradle exactly 2years from now, before xmas 2020

@radiant river Europe too

[stray horizon]

@celest solstice bruh he prolly just saw your legs

[celest solstice]

Thanks for the input, Jules. Only my legs weren't exposed but thanks 🙄

[queen jungle]

I have a little over 3000 hours in hunt. I can say with confidence that the trade mechanic is one of the absolute worst things that I have had to deal with in any video game, ever. I played before the trade update and had NO memorable memories of "shooting someone and not hitting them because I was already dead".

Think about how many people got pissed off that they were "shooting someone and the bullet didnt count because they were already dead". (probably the result of their ping, but that's besides the point).

NOW think about the hundreds/thousands of people are trading out with the last player in the server, trading out with some guy who's been dead for seconds and literally on the floor, etc etc. It would be insane to think that more anger has been caused by the first option- it's clearly a QOL downgrade. It absolutely blows my mind how long this mechanic has been in place.

[urban sonnet]

I actually prefers trade windows. Not having them makes me paranoid that the game isn't working because I know I should have gotten a hitmarker

Full disclosure, I play in teams so we don't see the downside quite as often. I don't know how big the windows is supposed to be tbh

What about giving it to solo players only? Is it technically possible?

[hearty rivet]

Home posted it in the media channel already but hope it's okay to put it here too for the sake of as many peeps as possible seeing it because it's something that very much also applies to this Discord

https://youtu.be/Vhwgenxmjpo

[odd geyser]

We need a game appreciation channel

To counter

[odd geyser]

I don’t mind them either, mainly rifle trades as they are definitely possible

[limpid umbra]

@celest solstice guy saw ur legs

[queen jungle]

#feedback

[digital vessel]

I think that's a bit of a loaded argument. Different people post at different times leading to perceived biases. I've seen reddit/discord posts about how toxic the discord/reddit is, there's posts days apart about how the community is too harsh on/forgiving of Crytek; time is a circle, acknowledge that hyperbole is obnoxious and can be ignored.

[lean estuary]

Hunt Showdown is great.

[stray horizon]

tru

[queen jungle]

@flint dove Please make sure to add a detailed description to your suggestion telling people what exactly it is you suggest and why people should support your idea.

[chilly nova]

I'm curious how we come to the conclusion the trait cost should be raised, and solo 5 stars should match against teams of 3 5 stars?

[chilly nova]

I wish there was a "players without patience" queue, so I could just turn my brain off and play more fun, careless matches without getting annoyed (no, quickplay isn't a good version of this; I still wanna play with friends).

[lean estuary]

Honestly wondering if a lot of current Hunt players actually just want a Wild West themed PVP game with mostly the same mechanics, except no revives, no traits to worry about,just jump back into a fresh game ASAP

Cowboys, Indians, Banditos, QuickDraw shootouts, 🌵🏚️ 🌵

[soft river]

solo 5 stars queueing up against trios of 5 stars

just means that 5 star has a really high match mmr

unless you mean 5 stars getting a 4 match mmr

[chilly nova]

there's no way i'm high 5 star. plus, there's no way 3x 5 stars makes sense against any level of 5 star

[half stag]

I think the reason why people gravitate to that aspect of the Gilded Age (yes, there was still a tiny bit of the West still around, hell some of the states weren't admitted till 1914), is cause of the lack of alternatives for a "Wild West" game, with no studios attempting to use that era as a setpiece for a multiplayer PvP game, so they use Hunt as a surrogate. There's Red Dead Online, but that's a 3rd person and Rockstar abandoned it and Fistful of Frags, but that game has quite a bit of jank that may throw some people off.

[edgy marsh]

Fix the god damn flashbomb in this game, I've already sent this complaint before. It's too OP, I get flashed by it without even looking at it at all, it's literally turned with my back to it and I still somehow get completely flashed, have you never seen any other game logic where the flash doesn't affect you or VERY minimal blindness that disappears after half a second?? Sure, there are flashbangs who are loud and make you dizzy but this isn't the same thing, not at all, and it's not supposed to blind me if that's the case, it should be disabling my hearing for a few seconds with strong tinnitus, thats all! Either way, fix that god damn flashbang so it doesn't blind you when you are turned with your back to it!!! Not to mention the sound is all wrong too! It sounds like a choke bomb when the enemy are throwing it, which confuses me so much!

[lean estuary]

Yeah, I believe it. Frontier closed in 1890 etc.

I think some good marketing and cinematic introductions could go a long way

[crystal plume]

@woven orbit Please only use the #feedback channel for posting feedback, for technical issues or bug reports you have #troubleshooting or #bug-reports-pc

[frosty garnet]

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[somber harbor]

@median void clipping is a price you pay for swagger over the enemies

At the very least mama maye is a total improvement over any other dress wearing hunter bc the dress doesn't block your view when looking down

[wintry comet]

so i just checked on my suggestions from last week, god it feels good to get a massive number of people liking my suggestions

just straight up "this is a good idea, why has it not been done yet" levels of likes

[celest solstice]

Oh you were in the same game? The way some of you defend the serious problems with this game is baffling

[royal grove]

Saw ur legs

[limpid umbra]

saw your legs

[celest solstice]

I hope you never wonder why this game holds such a small player base and degrades with every patch lol

[main cradle]

Dude, we saw the legs

[celest solstice]

Of course you did

[main cradle]

Ok?

Cool to know

[celest solstice]

If you say so lol

[main cradle]

Ok, cool

Idk why you think I’m a clown

Maybe I’m a mirror

Who knows

[celest solstice]

Nope. Just a clown lol

[crystal plume]

Alright I think that is enough

[balmy sparrow]

Hi diiba

What is your opinion on gorbing?

[lean estuary]

gorbing is pretty good but Hunt: Showdown is really good

[balmy sparrow]

Mmmm
Dunno

According to about 80% of feedback it is rather contrary

Find one bad thing said about gorbing

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TL;DR : Melee slotted weapons are never taken seriously, I have ideas that would make them something to reckon with.

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[lean estuary]

I will say gorbing is effective

[wide totem]

@slender crane it seems your grievances are more so with hitmakers than flash bombs themselves. Considering the only reason you get a hitmaker with flash is because it does 1 dmg thus prompting a player grunt.

[slender crane]

not really i just think theres too much indication that the flash hit the player or not, and honestly even the audio pin pointing from the grunting too. I just think it would make the tool a bit less OP if theres no indication whatsoever

[wide totem]

how about literally adding a new perk called sun gazer where such an ailment is reduced

or blocked

they have specific perks that reduce ailments like bleed and explo dmg, why not blinds as well?

[slender crane]

lool good point i guess

only if it cost like 1 perk point tho

flash is so op rn

[wide totem]

Well, my argument is bunkering down or holding a corner with shotguns is just as OP too. Propper breaching tactics afforded with flash bombs and other throwables counters that kind of camping. The better thing to do is to remove the one damage it causes, or reduce the damaging radius of it so the more severe durations are harder to land.

[unborn smelt]

on their introduction they would give a hitmarker if the enemy was affected even in the slightest, and you wouldn't know if you flashed them for a fraction of a sec or full duration -
That made them borderline useless and they had to buff them so they were useful at all.

[queen jungle]

@tidal moss Please use #feedback for general feedback on how Crytek manages the game and keep #game-ideas for in-game feature suggestions only.

[tidal moss]

I'm glad you saw it. Seemed like quite a few people felt the same as I did

[queen jungle]

Regarding the content of your post, I recommend reading this statement by our Senior Community Manager. It's a little old, but still very much relevant:
#hunt-general message

[tidal moss]

That post really is the boiler plate industry response from what I understand are frustrated devs. I get it but brushing us off as complainers who can't tell the difference between cheating, and ability is not advancing anything. Trust me I get beat plenty and I can recognize when someone gets the a lucky frag, the bush didn't cover as much of your head as you thought it did, or your evasion pattern isn't as good as you think it is. I've made blind shots and gotten kills, and I've been hit and killed from crazy angles and distances. I've even got a few screen shots kicking around of getting killed.by a bear trap through a wall, and poison shot through a wall. Sometimes the game decides you die and the RNG doesn't pan out. But when your whole team gets killed through 2 buildings by a guy in the next compound buy a guy with hidden stats and an account that's 2 weeks old while the games on sale. Yeah it's not hard to put those pieces together. It would be nice if they could at least tell us the cliff notes for how reports are handled. I'm not asking for them to detail their processes for evaluating claims, or how they process evidence, or what tools they use. It would just be nice to know something more then ~we banned some people~ because from the outside looking in it looks like nothing's happening which is frustrating. It would be nice to know and believe their is someone who looks at the reports. Who takes some time to review what can be reviewed and thinks "hmm that is suspicious" or "nope you just suck get good and people won't clown on ya as much". Because right now it feels like pressing the door close button on an elevator that's not hooked up, and is just there to provide an illusion of effort. I'm sure anti easy cheat picks up on lots of stuff, and I get it's an arms race. My focus isn't on cheaters as a whole, I'm just not convinced when you hit report that "report" goes anywhere. With no information it's hard not to worry it doesn't.

To be clear. I love the game which is why I am writing this. I want to see hunt be successful, and continue the growth it has been enjoying. The more people who play the more fun an interesting strategies and fights I can get into and that's what it's all about. I worry no one actually reviews reports because I understand what a monster of a task it must be to sort them. I'm sure hundreds and hundreds come in every day and I'm also sure the vast majority are likely from people pissed they got killed, and they can't see how it was done and if they can't figure it out that means it must be cheaters!!!! I get that sorting though the lovely comments I'm sure hunters pissed off and fresh out the match attach to those reports must just be a delightful treat to read as well. I'm sure they are all well written and not at all bitch sessions.... Not. Its because I see all theses issues with reporting and recognize what a massive undertaking sorting that would be atleast without some kind of automation that I'm worried it's just not being looked at. Maybe the system is actually just a counter. Waiting for an account to gather enough reports, and hit a number before passing that account on for review. Idk which kinda makes it hard to feel like it does anything when you can't see it do anything.

[queen jungle]

I was not implying that your reports were false (although the devs have stated that there are in fact a lot of false reports, thus why the report system was moved to post-match). It's a general statement on the situation.
All I can say about the way reports are handled is that every one is looked at by a customer support representative with the tools they have available (cannot go into detail of course, but modern games have telemetry on almost everything).

People have suggested receiving feedback on reports, but that could likely lead to a violation of privacy rights, since some regions consider online nicknames to be personal identifiable information.

[tidal moss]

Oh no Sorry I did not mean to give you the impression I thought you were saying I was lieing

So every report is looked at by a customer service rep?

[queen jungle]

Yes. And I am aware this sounds like another copy&paste statement from a faceless community moderator of some games company.

But it's all I am at liberty to tell you right now.

[tidal moss]

I wonder if they could give us some simple states perhaps like "our team reviews 26000 reports in the month of June" kinda thing

Putting number to things can help people see the scope of an operation

Give them faith in it. Because that's really the heart of the issue I think. I think you hit it there we feel the need to case our statements because we know on their face they don't come with enough evidence to be believed on their own merits

People don't have faith that the door close button on the elevator is actually doing anything even though we are hitting it to use a metaphor

A glance behind the curtain would go along way I think. I wonder if crytek ever considered maybe being more personable like that. I know they pride themselves on being community driven but I don't know that they do enough to really help people see where the community ideas are actually impacting. Humans as a whole (I was gonna say gamers but to be honest it's basically everyone) are dame near impossible to please. You do one thing but people are still pissed you didn't do the other. But I think a lot of it comes back to people not being able to connect where what they are saying is actually affecting change.

If people knew more about the team that reviewed reports even sterilized to keep information useful to hackers from getting out it could go a long way to helping people have faith that even if they don't always get it right they are always trying.

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[karmic ivy]

"A glance behind the curtain would go along way I think."

Did you know they did that in the past? They put out numbers, it was ineffective at putting to rest the "FEAR". The fear is actualy something the players has to fix for themselves. Crytek can't help you if you think like this "I'm just not convinced when you hit report that "report" goes anywhere."

Why be convinced of that?
They have said it goes somewhere to be read by a person more than once, yet STILL people say "but how can we know?" or "I FEEL like nothing is happening and they are lying"... It is a confidence issue, that goes deeper than crytek's anticheat and report system. In my opinion of course.

[tidal moss]

I agree that the confidence issue plays a role. I think a lot of people have like me been in gaming for decades, and have all experienced reports being ineffective which has made the job all the more difficult for crytek because people are pre conditioned for reports to be ineffective. I think that also has a large part to do with as I detailed what a massive undertaking addressing reports is for a company. For the most part people's lack of faith in reports are not even Cryteks fault, but it's an issue they like all games need to address. To be clear their no way to fully build everyone's faith in the system, maybe not even a majority. But I do think showing the community that efforts are being taken beyond just a quick block of text saying it's being addressed with no details, could go a long way.

[unborn dagger]

Your suggestion is trying to make flash as useless as possible. I can understand the removal of the hit marker so you have to listen but the removal of the grunt too? That's just stupid in a game where you have to listen.

[slender crane]

i can wallbang based of the grunting easy, its not even fair.

[unborn dagger]

Good.

[limpid umbra]

@torn dragon I think you are just having bad experiences with shotguns

[torn dragon]

shotguns are op thats it.. same like avto..

[royal grove]

Have you considered not walking toward the shotgun and/or walking backwards from the shotgun

[karmic ivy]

"But I do think showing the community that efforts are being taken beyond just a quick block of text saying it's being addressed with no details, could go a long way."

I think its a trust issue, and people have trust issues when they have no confidence that they can detect deception.

when you learn how things work, things make sense, and you can feel confident in knowing you can trust the dev's word when they say they are serious about it, that they are committed to fighting cheating behavior/rule breaking in Hunt. And that they want the best for the game.

[tidal moss]

Agreed. Now the question becomes what can they explain and what can't they explain. I get when they say they can't tell us how alot of things work because the system largely relies on cheaters not knowing how it works so they can't avoid it. While providing enough information to help people have trust

[karmic ivy]

There is also the legal implications of using a persons name/id/handle in a public report.

they already did numbers, and that did not quell the fear.

what do you think about it? any ideas?

Personally I think you just can't help some players. It is like the old saying about horses and water. They have a "confidence in assessment" problem and fear the devs are lying... what can you do?

Point is its their fear that is the problem, and you can't fix another persons fear for them. They could do it for themselves though, though knowledge.

[trail carbon]

@exotic halo We already have the Colt Walker. The Caldwell Uppercut is that gun

Unless you're saying that you want a black powder gun

[exotic halo]

Yes@trail carbon

[trail carbon]

Eh, I don't think a black powder gun is a fantastic idea, as the only way to make it viable would be to make it one shot to the upper chest or something.

[exotic halo]

@trail carbon think about how awesome that would be like Clint Eastwood in the outlawed josey Wales

[limpid umbra]

100% not even comparable to the avtomat, looks like you just got something wrong with them

[trail carbon]

We kinda have that already. I don't understand the draw here, I need more

[torn dragon]

same like avto means that both are op.. looks like your one of these guys that only play on 5 star cuz shotguns are massive op 🙂

[exotic halo]

All guns in hunt are cartridges nothing black powder even though they still used black powder in the 1800s-1895 @trail carbon

@trail carbon and plus the Caldwell conversion uppercut uses a rifle cartridge when the Colt Walker conversion uses a .45 long colt which is a pistol round not a rifle round

[limpid umbra]

Making assumptions about my character when you are just salty

What shame 🙂

[unborn sandal]

Have you considered… shooting them in the head. If shotguns didn’t one shot then they would just be the sparks with extra steps. The counter to shotguns is simply not entering their effective range

[limpid umbra]

Or just, leaving xD

[tulip tree]

maybe just don't run into a building without learning the other teams loadout lel

[dense schooner]

average shotgun complainer

[torn dragon]

just be realistic and understand that its a fact 🙂 i know u guys love these shotguns cuz of the dopamin it gives u cuz u feel strong.. but in reallity it is just way to strong. its ok when its strong like it is when it costs a lot more.. but for this little amount of dollars its really really op.

[torn dragon]

read your own text and find the assumptions about my character 🙂

[royal grove]

I don't use shotguns
Stop walking into shotguns

[burnt mulch]

who says its a fact? does shotgun have a stat ingame called “op”? 🤔

[dense schooner]

lol

[burnt mulch]

people declaring that things are facts like they’re declaring bankruptcy smh my head

[torn dragon]

hundrets of games say that its a fact 🙂 maybe clear thinking say its a fact 🙂 and see things without the "i want to play meta only" part in your head say its a fact 🙂

[burnt mulch]

lol guess what

hundrets of games say that its not a fact 🙂 maybe clear thinking say its not a fact 🙂 and see things without the "things that kill me are bad” part in your head say its not a fact 🙂

[royal grove]

clam down

there's no porpoise to this

[burnt mulch]

@solemn gyro whats stopping it from being a better romero?

[torn dragon]

did i say that i do not play shotguns? 🙂

[burnt mulch]

does it matter? you’re saying that its op because you think so and you’re smarter than everyone else with a “clear head” lol

that aint a fact my friend

did I say I play meta only?

[dense schooner]

it’s pointless man

[burnt mulch]

shrugs gotta call them out on it every once in a while, I’m bored at work

[torn dragon]

u dont understand what im talkin about dude.. when u have to do a weapon rank system from strongest to lowest weapons in game without nitro and avto.. whats your top 3?

[burnt mulch]

mosin, lebel, berthier?

[torn dragon]

ok so on what criteria is that ranking?

[burnt mulch]

my personal opinion.

[torn dragon]

ok than do the same based on stats and dollar costs and usecases ingame and so on without your personal opinion 🙂

[burnt mulch]

can’t.

using the stats to determine strength is an opinion

how “strong” is it for a gun be cheap? how much do you value firerate? damage? that’s all opinion.

[wise aspen]

Why have you been arguing about shotguns for so long just agree to disagree

[burnt mulch]

i just pop in occasionally to tell him his opinion isnt a fact

bored at work

[wise aspen]

Nvm that valid

[burnt mulch]

lmao

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[vocal ember]

Player Blacklist sometimes the players we play games with are toxic or they can create problems for us in the game, so as not to be matched with these players again.Option to blacklist players we've played with in the past

[limpid umbra]

I see that you arent very good, thats simply my assumption

[tidal moss]

I think some details on process could be helpful. I don't like the idea of saying things are what they are because it excuses a lack of effort. If things really are helpless then giving up now and shutting down is the best solution because logically theirs no point in applying resources to a hopeless cause. I don't subscribe to that. I also don't think humans are wired to distrust a report feature. It's a nurtured issues. People have not seen evidence of it working and are conditioned to see it as ineffective because of that. Anything that a person can be conditioned into they can be conditioned out of. So if we agree that a quick number salad did not restore people's faith then it stands to reason we must go further. Perhaps a dev stream where maybe we get to see some of the team who work on reports. Not a detail process but maybe we could see how reports are presented to them. See how our reports appear to Cryteks service reps when they get them. Maybe no how they are evaluated as that might be useful information to cheaters, but just how our reports get to and where they go

[karmic ivy]

"it excuses a lack of effort."

I mostly follow you. But one thing confused me. What "lack of effort" is being excused? What effort are you referring to?

On a related note, I often have wished a game company would do videos showing what a day is like in each department. Talk about details. It would only appeal to some, but those players would appreciate the look into another world.

[tidal moss]

When I say lack of effort I'm referring to when people say things like "that's just how it is" or "we tried X and it didn't work so I guess that's it" I find that usually means that a solution was not found because people were not willing to expend the effort to find it.

I get that sometimes the juice isn't worth the squeeze but in this case I really feel like it is. Faith in the fairness of a game is what makes people want to play it. No on wants to play a game that don't think they can win because they feel like not only are people cheating but nothing is being done to fix it. I don't think nothing is be done mind, but I honestly know so little that I couldn't tell you more then that. They threw some numbers out 5k banned I believe but that's an ultimately meaningless number out of context. Is that 5k caught by anti easy cheat? 5k banned after report review? 5k out of 200,000 reports? 5k out of 7000 reports? 3k reports and 2k anti easy cheat? See what I mean saying 5k ultimately is not much better or on par with just saying we do things source trust me bro. You can't buy much with it because it's honestly not worth anything.

They want us to believe and I want to believe. We have that in common, but it's not a religion. I won't just take it on faith that it's happening because sky daddy's book said it happened. I want to see facts, not just facts but context, and see the people or process that those facts come from. I'm ready to believe just give me the info to believe in. Because left to what I can see from the outside it's a dim view.

[royal grove]

holy god dude you are way too paranoid about cheaters and reporting in a video game

[tidal moss]

If that's what you read from that message then I failed to convey my intent. Although I would say that the full context for that message are above further in the chat history and without it it may be difficult to fully confer what I am saying. But I am mainly talking about the lack of evidence that reporting actually has any efficacy and simply hoping for greater transparency in order to help bolster that faith that there is anything occurring

[limpid umbra]

you writing a research paper about pixels

[tidal moss]

Of course I am It's in my name

[limpid umbra]

true

But im not sure how many hackers you guys are coming across, because maybe 260 hours isnt enough to say that ive seen my fair share of the game

Ive have maybe 2 instances where i thought someone was suspicious but could never prove it

[still basin]

I've caught 1 on video, other than that haven't noticed anything super crazy. They exist, just not to the extent some people say

1.4k hours

[tidal moss]

Oh no I agree I said it in a much earlier post (Part of the issue with having discussions on discord anyone who arrives late is at a disadvantage in the information) I'm sure the majority of people who see "Cheaters" are likely just, Not in as much cover as they thought, More predictable then they want to admit, the victim of RNG, victim of hunts code (ive been wall banged with poison ammo, even have a screen cap of getting killed by a bear trap through a wall lol) but that could be addressed with more transparency. As hunts on sale right now their are more cheaters then average. I know a friend who is banned who picks up a copy when the games on sale so he could get back in, on the last sale he got himself banned again after about a month but he cheated the entire time so that's rough that he got away with it for as long as he did (I don't play with him on hunt for this reason why play if your not going to play). So they are out their. Last night I got in to a match with a guy who downed our entire team from a compound away through 2 buildings in less then 2 minutes. Guys got a 6 day old steam account not hard to see a carbon copy of my one buddy. They are out their, they do get away with it. But yeah I agree they are not the majority. I just want to know they are getting taken out, and faster then a month would be nice.

Like I also said the fact that the majority of reports are likely just butthurt hunters makes the problem of dealing with reports a fucking bear im sure

[wide totem]

@wise aspen worth mentioning, many don't know, but you can actually try loadouts and weapons in the training mode under lobby. Ofcourse you'd have to unlock weapons, but a place to try stuff out already kinda exists.

[tidal moss]

which makes me worry that its a very low priority because its hard

[wide totem]

guns and money aren't all too hard to grind for in this game

especially with quickplay

[tidal moss]

Crytek prides itself on community involvement though so I'm sure that even a hard problem like filtering out shit reports could be solved, but I think alot of people (and I have about 12 people in my steam friends list who are among them) just get frustrated and give up

[hot vigil]

That is a workaround.
Sure it is fine, but it would be nice to have an enviorment where you can quickly change between weapons and get damage numbers displayed and a shooting range that indicates distances.

[worthy knoll]

Which is still a Problem for Most people because grinding is rarely fun. I want to okay to have fun Not Play so i can Play.
A successful Match usually does Not pay for your loadout except If you were Able to loot for Money.

I have a friend who quit Hunt because as He Put it "you get nothing when you die".
Meaning even If you would que as a Solo, kill 10 people, get 3 clues and kill the boss you only get 350 Dollars If the Last guy who did nothing all Match extract Camps you or something.

[wide totem]

what a shame

that may have been me

[hot vigil]

Tbf, for most High 4 stars and up, money ain't really hard unless you wanna rock Mosin + Uppercut every game, in that case, which very unfun to begin with :v

[worthy knoll]

... I dont think people should Not Play Like this. Its their choice, but i absolutely Unserstand that people are pissed when they arguably do all the Work and get a fat middle Finger... Something small Like bountys giving 50-100 more and 50 Dollars für euch Hunter killed (First time) would Change that a little.

[worthy knoll]

Mosin Sniper is one of the Money Makers. Just Run when Somebody gets Close and never Push. Yeah No Fun but works...

[hot vigil]

Eyup. Usually I have a rule of thumb going: "Less than 5k, I only run free/low budget builds until I'm back at 10k again".

Money wouldn't ofc be an issue if I didn't prestige all the time.

[wide totem]

You guys do realize you make more money for simply extracting and NOT dying

you don't need the token to extract

[hot vigil]

Yes, but the fun part of the game is to play the shooty part.
Not going sightseeing.

[wide totem]

sure a token is worth more and is the primary objective, but it's better than dying and having your winnnings halved

But if money making is the goal, running away from what kills you is better 😐

like you can even get alot of money running vulture too and just picking the dead looted bodies for money

the game is meant to be oppressive

and in this sort of game, you shouldn't RUSH for failure

[hot vigil]

Don't think "making money" is ultimative gameplay of Hunt. It is a mechanic for sure. But people play the game for the shooting at other people.

Mostly.

[worthy knoll]

I agree With your Statement.
In General that is.
You CAN make Money by vulture etc.
And you should extract If your Chances are Bad.

But people do Not consider this Fun. Because there ist Not much to do besides Killing people and getting the token.

This is Not Tarkov where a successful raid can mean finding useful parts.

And Most Players you Play Witz expect you to save Thema No Matter what. They are of the "Ride together, die together" mindset. Which is stupid because sometimes theres nothing you can do.

[worthy knoll]

But If you are Bad you are forced into free Hunters having even less Chances at winning With a Springfield Compact and dualies e.g.

[hot vigil]

That is why I said high 4 and up.
And I agree, there needs some tweaks for the money balancing.

[worthy knoll]

And everyone should have fun in a Game you buy or at least be Able too.
Hunt ist Not as competetive as some people think.

[worthy knoll]

What do you mean With Money balancing, what do you think of?

[trail carbon]

I think it's kind of silly that they increased the cost of the cheap options simply because people were taking them a lot.

Like, it doesn't really affect me, but it's still silly

[hot vigil]

Well, it is more than money balance, it is more that expensive weapons are leagues better than their competitiors balanced around the concept of "well they cost more". Issue is that is not an issue for good players and a huge issue for poor/struggling players.

[trail carbon]

I agree with that. I don't think cost is a good balancing factor.

[worthy knoll]

Yes agree. Their Price Balance was stupid... Now the only cheap Options are the Springfield whose only upside ist being cheap and the Winnie C...
Also the 100% increase in small vit shots was crazy
....

[trail carbon]

Same with the axe, I don't get that one

Imagine being in cowboy times

[worthy knoll]

The Thing is, how would you Balance it then?

A friend suggestet That guns Like the Mosin can only bei found during a Match and Not be kept.... Which i hated.

[trail carbon]

And someone demands 10 dollars for an ace

[worthy knoll]

15

[trail carbon]

That's right, it is 15 isn't it

[worthy knoll]

Also yes. Still Nobody picks the nagant Pistol. Even Witz the Conversion increase...

The only Thing i saw less was Compact FMJ because an Conversion with Compact FMJ Costa over 100

[trail carbon]

That's because the base nagant is just shit in comparison to anything else

Sure, it has an extra shot, but the LeMat has 3 extra shots and a shotgun

Sure, it's cheap, but it has the worst rate of fire

I'd rather have a bornheim than a nagant

[hot vigil]

Have two ways of balancing it:

• Just nerf long ammo across the board, most of all, cap all non-one-shot rifles to 124 damage, just so people have a reason to keep playing after getting downed once.
• or make contracts that have a budget limit that require players to make choices or sacrifies to their loadouts.

[trail carbon]

I think long ammo should be nerfed a decent amount. Bring it in line with the other two ammo types

[wide totem]

No one said this or is saying this. and @worthy knoll NO ONE is saying that is fun. It seems you both are of the idea you need expensive guns to do better and or be better. You don't even have to go in with guns and FIND GUNS like springfields, sparks, romeros, and winfields.

I never played any other extract shooter but this one and there is some budgeting to be had as a basic consideration for it. I more so comes down to individual skill but almost any gun in this game is a one shot to the head and two shot to the torso. There are enough FREE things practically thrown at players such as free weapons, money, items, and consumables that it all just sorts itself out who makes better use of it than others, and Im certain thats what the devs intended with the game.

[trail carbon]

Long ammo being so strong right now is why medium ammo feels so bad to use

[wide totem]

Can yoou imagine the game without questlines, without levelup rewards, without free hunters, without trails, without charys contracts, without quickplay

[worthy knoll]

My Point was that people hate having to Grind to have good Guns.

I have 150k
I Play a Lot of free Hunters. I know how to make Money.

My Point was that not everybody wants to do such Things.

[wide totem]

Much of the things I mentioned most players don't even know about such as free weapons in hunting or firewatch towers, or free consumables from yellow boxes. You can walk into a match with just a nagant or crossbow, med kit and knife and a couple shots, and leave out with more than you came in with and still be able to have fun with a fight or two if you can find your advantage,

[wide totem]

Then why are you putting words into my mouth, you knwo full well you get most "good" guns for free practically. And to get that from someone like you is strange when again, ALL guns are on average two shot kill 😐

[trail carbon]

To be fair, only long ammo guns are a two shot body shot through almost any cover and at extreme ranges

[wide totem]

who's playing like that outside of 5-6^ lobbies?

[trail carbon]

Fair

I desperately want to play in 4* lobbies again

[wide totem]

dude, just die first in quickplay, it's the easiest derank method

and again, coming from you with 150k, should know how hilarious it is when you kill a team with lebels or mosins with a romero and nagant. You can have the same amount of fun if not more with with a "bad" loadout, by your standards. @worthy knoll

[trail carbon]

Yeah but purposefully deranking is kind of... Morally incorrect in my eyes

Also, I don't really think that "Only higher skill players abuse the meta" is a good reasoning for the meta to stay stagnant

It's a fair thing to say, sure, but it isnt a great argument

[worthy knoll]

I never Play solo so any Gain is partial to my teammates. I am an eternal 3 Star after all. But I agree Killing Somebody who has Invested more is fun

[worthy knoll]

Agree but there is No was to Change the Meta. Long ammo will Always be strong

[trail carbon]

Yeah, I want long ammo to be knocked down and fall in line with medium and compact

[wide totem]

Most are in 4* and those of you who feel stuck there, trust, you don't want to be in high ranks with people using "good" guns because there is always a team using spitzer, sparks sniper strats or shotgun turtle strats.

[trail carbon]

I am so fucking sick of concertina spam while they sit inside with slug shotguns

Stay in 4* land at all costs

Also, long ammo should actually suffer from it's one downside of having limited ammo

But it just... Doesn't

[wide totem]

Slight jab, but if youre bad with the basic "bad" weapons, what makes you think youll be good with "good" weapons. That logic baffles me when i grinded to 6^ with jsut a romero and crossbow and swapped with free weapons on dead players or on the map.

[trail carbon]

I don't think any of the weapons are "bad" in reality. Well, save for the bornheim and base nagant, but I think that some weapons are better than they deserve to be

Winfield and Romero are probably two of the strongest guns if you know what you're doing

[wide totem]

Im not claiming any weapon is bad, fahlo and the other dude were

[trail carbon]

Ah

I mean

[wide totem]

I already said most guns are a two shot kill, as I said originally

[trail carbon]

The bornheim is kinda trash though

I love it, but, c'mon

[wide totem]

Surface level, dc. RoF wins close quarters

the only over looked thing in this game that sucks is melee, which is what Im putting ideas together for to amke them viable

[trail carbon]

I hate how every melee battle is a trade nowadays

I'm more shocked when I don't trade

[worthy knoll]

Not completly Bad But Just Not as good..the good Guns have a Lot of Advantages. Lets start With Range and damage drop Off.
125 is the Magic number because it one-taps downed Hunters.
The only Budget gun With that damage is the Springfield and it looses dmg after 20m...

[wide totem]

no one

plays like this

[worthy knoll]

In line? What do you mean by this? How would you do it?

[wide totem]

outside of 5-6^

which is why higher ranks exploit that fact

[worthy knoll]

I dont get what you mean.

Clearky there are more popular Guns for a reason even in 3-4 Stars.

[wide totem]

[hot vigil]

This: if every gun in Hunt is A to S tier, a lot of long ammo is S to SS tier.

[wide totem]

checking out this conversation

done

[hot vigil]

Issue is that while it might mostly be contained there, means that I, who likes to not run strictly long ammo needs to either get clowed on by sweatlords or derank to clown on people below my skill level.

[worthy knoll]

Can you explain what He meant With "Nobody plays Like this?" Inam utterly confused.

[hot vigil]

Nope, that statement simply just have nothing to back it up with besides "he said, I said".

[worthy knoll]

Concerning this I See it when I Play Sniper only for an evening. Even With Just a Sparks.
If I am disciplined and dont Rush I Rank to 4 (sometimes 5) Stars rather quickly. Only to derank when I Play some Broheim Match fire ammo for fun.

[worthy knoll]

Alright then i guess. I Just dont know.

[hot vigil]

Eyup, there is some clear weapons and playstyles that is optimal in Hunt. Which is fair, every game have optimal play. But I feel it is a little too much skewed.
Like long ammo usually have it all: Best penetration, best damage, best muzz, best damage retention and to top it off, usually good enough fire rates.

Even if they knocked down the damage to 124 (for non-one-shot rifles), it would still be a strong selection of upsides.

[worthy knoll]

Yes thats mostly true. The Mosin is Just the Goldstandard yet Nobody really wants it nerfed...
And there is No logical way of doing so as far as I know.
Because its logical that more modern guns are better than older ones. It makes sense.

Balance by price is Just a Bad move Overall.

[soft river]

the inconsistent capitalizing

[hot vigil]

I mean, they can lower the damage. Every number is abitary to begin with. Again, that you don't die to a head shot from compact/medium due to x meter away, doesn't makes sense either.

[worthy knoll]

I am German.
My Phone does this because it does Not know English... I hate that too...

[worthy knoll]

Thats true and Not immediatly dying when you lost a small bar after a Fight would be a Huge boon. But in a prolonged fight i think I would hate it... Its Just weird.

Maybe some Guns should Just Not be in the Game. Lets be real, how do Mosins come to the bayou? Lebel I Understand as Louisiana was a frech colony.

[hot vigil]

Think the long ammo rifles does have a place. Just that they shouldn't one tap after one down.

[trail carbon]

Less velocity, less penetration, more damage fall off

Any of these, or perhaps a combination

I think it should have a slight edge over medium in the same way that medium has over compact

[hot vigil]

Naw, think the pen and muzz is what makes long ammo long ammo.

[trail carbon]

Well then why the hell do we have long fmj

Long FMJ is worthless

I don't think it should be able to pen the corners of brick walls

[trail carbon]

Also, are you saying that the martini isn't truly a long ammo weapon because it has medium ammo levels of velocity?

[hot vigil]

Well, maybe the issue more that Long FMJ shouldn't be a thing.

[royal grove]

@chilly nova what is a winfield musket

[hot vigil]

Martini is my main gun, call it "the fair long ammo rifle".
Usually when people talk long ammo is the is about the non-single shot weapons. Bc single shot rifles usually comes with the fair balance of being a single shot.

[trail carbon]

I mean, yeah, I like the martini where it is

I think it is stupid how the sparks is basically just better in every way besides ammo count

[hot vigil]

Would say Sparks does have the downside of some loooooong reload times. But think martini wouldn't hurt by getting just smidge more muzz.

[trail carbon]

I also don't like how they keep increasing the range of other stuff instead of fixing the core issue

[hot vigil]

Tho rumors says martini will get a variant that makes stand out from sparks.

[trail carbon]

Yeah its getting the stupid side magazine thing

So it will just be a worse mosin or something

[hot vigil]

Yeah, issue is now they have created desalle, with huge sidelines, so we can't really revert back to short engagement ringes again.

[hot vigil]

I mean, it does have more damage packing.

[trail carbon]

Yeah, I love Desalle's compound structure because it makes camping harder, but the long sightlines hurt

[hot vigil]

Think that 7 Sisters and Moses Poultry are not fun to push in or out of. But mostly agree yes

[lean estuary]

Louisiana became a State in 1812 and I think by the mid 1890s Russia was trading regularly with France anyway…but It’s probably safe to assume most of the firearms that are more modern in 1895, (and from Europe and Asia) are purchased and distributed through a black market system, since the AHA is pretty much a ‘secret society’.

@queen jungle I like the Insanity Debuff thing, I keep thinking about something similar but I keep calling it a fear effect, like D&D…Panic Effect is probably closer to what it would be…maybe the only way to stop it is by taking a drink of liquor 🥃

Also something that could be effected by your Hunters XP level, maybe it can’t happen to a level 35-50 hunter, or Tier 3 hunter, etc.

[burnt mulch]

i definitely would not want it tied to hunter xp level

and especially not hunter tier

[lean estuary]

Maybe more incentive to not quit

[burnt mulch]

i’m not sure how it would be applied.

maybe a decent boss mechanic

[lean estuary]

Yeah, me neither, seems tricky

[worthy knoll]

I was more questioning the Design decision to include 2-3 Russian Guns when the setting would allow for more than enough US Guns.
How this Happens lore-wise i know

[lean estuary]

Oh yeah, there could definitely be more US weapons…lore could be the same reason though, it might be easier to get ahold of foreign military weapons with no questions asked, than domestic ones

[half stag]

imo, it'd be great as a boss mechanic. You could have it so that the "frenzy" phase of the boss is it applying "insanity" to hunters in the boss arena (phantom footsteps/gunshots, or even visual hunters that run at you, but disappear right before they reach you), with it maybe being easily cleared by using an antidote shot.

[lean estuary]

I was wondering that, maybe a weak stimulant shot could counteract it, or a new consumable that’s a few small bottle of liquor

Probably a new trait too, like “Steel-Nerved”, where you can’t get rattled

Maybe your hunter starts hyperventilating, hands shaking so reloading takes a little longer

Oh, the Adrenaline trait could help

[half stag]

completely forgot that trait existed lmao. prob would be a better idea to reuse that for an "insanity" mechanic ngl

[lean estuary]

Yeah, would be good if it did a few things, like how Bolt Seer became Blade seer to include knives etc….so maybe you could recover from a Panic Effect more quickly than normal, and get the stamina regen when low on health

[balmy sparrow]

@brazen shoal please do discuss feedback of others in feedback discussion, not just feedback

[proper raptor]

I enjoy giving ideas but do they even get seen/taken into consideration?

Always wondered that

[balmy sparrow]

If idea is good enough it is seen by crytek and taken into consideration
Of course, what exactly is enough of goodness is unbeknownst to me

[proper raptor]

Yeah, I don't think to many people actually vote in that to cause a wow moment from crytek

I'd like to know how they take the votes

[lean estuary]

@proud narwhal The Benefactor skin sounds like it could be fun to draw!

[proud narwhal]

I super love the concept

[lean estuary]

I’m all for slightly campy or flashy skins if it’s some kind of flex like that (prestige 100)

[proud narwhal]

I love using the easy to see skins it gives me power xD

I am the anti sweat

[queen jungle]

Tuxedo fashion in the 1890s.

I do want a Hunter skin of a filthy rich millionaire. Monocles, gold pocket watch, cane, the works.

[lean estuary]

It’s gotta be that rare silly skin that shows up

[proud narwhal]

YES

a blood stained hankercheif too

[lean estuary]

This is getting into “Hunt: Horrors of the Gilded Age” tone

Haha, If you guys suggest he gets steampunk goggles…

[past ledge]

Tuberculosis

[proud narwhal]

HAAA

[worthy knoll]

So how Many people do you think are in Test Server?
Like theres nothing interesting there, No incentive

[past ledge]

there is never incentive for test server stuff

[unborn gyro]

That's not entirely true. There were some rewards back in the day for spending time on test.

Hunt bucks? Blood bucks? I don't remember exactly what but it was something.

[karmic ivy]

@unborn gyro Crytek's servers are doing great here (US West/East), better than par even. Some of the best I have played on. I don't think its crytek's issue.
Not saying that means its yours, but if it was crytek's service doing it, it would likely effect all of us on the server at the same time. Sounds like you are barking up the wrong tree.

[unborn gyro]

False. It's Hunt servers. Streamers having same issue.

[karmic ivy]

Which ones? can we see them having problems right now?

The game server is fine here. 0 problems.

[karmic ivy]

BTW, you do know there is more than two failure points along the network yes?

It is not JUST crytek servers, OR your end

[karmic ivy]

no names?... ... ...

[unborn gyro]

I'm not going to name people because it's rude to draw them into an argument that you seemingly want to have. You can call me a liar if you want I don't care what you think?

[karmic ivy]

LOL, ok man, sure.

[tight delta]

It could be the server. But you would have to do some diagnostics to verify where the connection issues crop up.

You need to find out the IP of the game server you're using. Then you could run traceroute towards it, and then use ping on the IP-addresses you discovered.

Or you could just use a tool like WinMTR to do this automatically.

[unborn gyro]

I mean what's the point in naming people? I said what I said you believe it or you don't. It's cool. It may not be systemic maybe certain nodes within the cluster but I watched a dude in Russia have the issue then I flipped to a streamer on US West. I was in a match and received it as well.

[tight delta]

If a network along the path to the game servers is having an issue, it's likely going to affect other people too whose data gets routed by the selfsame network.

[unborn gyro]

It was the third match .. I'm in queue for my 4th.

[karmic ivy]

So I can go watch them having the problems you describe, then I would not have to believe you at all. It would be an observable fact.

[tight delta]

I was helping with troubleshooting issues some people from Germany were having. The bad nodes along the path were in Tata Communication's network, not in LeaseWeb's.

[unborn gyro]

So something is going on and it seems to be local to Hunt infrastructure because it's not region specific.

[tight delta]

It's not always clear-cut Crytek / LeaseWeb issue.

[unborn gyro]

nod

I'm on AT&T network? I don't know what the backbone is.

I will do a tracert if you can give me an ip ?

maybe i can find hunt in netstat

[tight delta]

Yeah, use netstat, I don't have the IPs of the US game servers at hand

[unborn gyro]

shooting is starting, I will be back in a bit

I did discover that having more than one NIC active seems to throw the game into disarray at times.

so I disabled the secondary nic that is for local network comms

[tight delta]

Right!

[worthy knoll]

Not entirely
People tend to Like Testing new Guns. And thats fun.

But those Few Sound fixes and compound Changes could have gone live and then If they needed fixing could have been fixed in the Update for the Event proper.

[unborn gyro]

that match ended well .. ran into a super newbie..

lol that's enough Hunt for today

Thanks for the help. I will look into it.

[karmic ivy]

@ocean sorrel I watched your vid and I don't see what you describe. The players have quite varied setups. I even saw a crossbow user. Why is it a problem if two people out of 12 had a shotgun with slugs or an avto? Wouln't that be expected in high rank games?

[ocean sorrel]

@karmic ivy point is, these are meant to be rare but strong guns, it should be a shock or exciting to come across someone using them, but since 1.10 they are (at least it seems) as prevalent as the dolch was pre nerf. If you take a single round of hunt it isn't a "problem" but when it's maybe 8 out of 10 rounds they are far too common. And it's just frustrating to have someone one hit kill you to the chest at long range or spray you down and get a lucky head shot.

Much like the Devs said about the dolch these guns are a "skill levelers" that allow less skilled players to compete at an artificially high level.

In what I will call Genuine high rank games, there will be loads of "low end" weapons because good players don't need the crutch, and it's in these rounds where everyone is on a level playing field that hunt is most fun (in my opinion).

My opinion is they are so provident at the moment that they are spoiling the interest and feeling of hunt, everyone in my "team" have put over or close too 2k hours into the game, we love it, but the current meta is starting to make us not want to play because the gun fights simply are becoming unenjoyable

[soft river]

@burnt lily If I could downvote your post 100 times I’d do it

Its not personal

I just have a never ending hatred for bolt action suggestions

[burnt lily]

Why don't you like bolt-action rifles?

[soft river]

We have 4

3 are the exact same

1 is a medium gun

We only have 3 lever action guns and they’re all unique

Well

Centennial is just a beefed up winfield 1873

But one is compact, one is medium, one is a shotgun

Bolt actions just aren’t very unique

[burnt lily]

Hm maybe you're right but as for me there are only 2 playable bolt-action rigfles for me

1. Label

2. Vetterli

I don't mosin and berthier

But ok

[soft river]

If crytek chose the original 1876 design, that and the 1873 would look near exactly the same

Besides some stuff on the 1876 being bigger

[burnt lily]

I will suggest lever action gun next time

[soft river]

I want a pump action rifle

That would be cool

[burnt lily]

Yeah

[burnt lily]

I think it would be cool if they add rifle like this. It's pump action but small caliber, so they can add it like 9mm

[frosty garnet]

@hallow plume, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

Please feel free to re-post your idea using the correct format:
Matched regex in message in #game-ideas (#suggestions-ideas, 524577494863708180):

Crossover with resident evil or dbd maybe? (Don’t kill me)```

[soft river]

Pump action would then be the inverse of lever

2 rifles 1 shotgun

Vs

2 shotguns 1 rifle

[burnt lily]

By the way, what do you think about this gun?

[tight delta]

Volcanic repeating pistol, would be dope 😎

Go suggest that over at the #game-ideas channel and I will upvote it.

Though, there more than likely has been one if not more identical suggestions 🤔

[burnt lily]

I think they've been asked about it since release hah

[soft river]

Cool

[burnt lily]

I wonder if they add this weapon, should levering works on it?

[hot vigil]

Cool gun, but issue is that historically the Volcanic was quite a weak gun, so in the sense of balancing it might be hard to make it meaningful in the setting of Hunt.
Also don't think we really need more rapid fire options in Hunt.

[burnt lily]

Yep it was a weak gun, but in hunt we have such things as a mosin avtomat, so I don't see any problem to increase it's damage

[hot vigil]

That is true, but most of the guns in Hunt tries to mimic the "firepower" of their real life counterparts.
Not saying that it is a perfect system, but it is the system as it is now.

But second question is: what role would the Volanic gun fill?
Guess it would be a medium slot compact ammo gun, which is kinda cute.

[burnt lily]

Good question, in my opinion it might be in pistol slot(small) because it's not so big in real life. Its smaller than sawed-off winfield in hunt, so it might be small slot

[hot vigil]

But my logic is that you need two hands to operate it (effectivly), hence medium slot.

But I guess "a small slot mini vandal" is funny too

[burnt lily]

I saw a video where man holds it with only one hand and shoots. But for levering you need two hands of course

[burnt lily]

mini weapon that have a levering in small slot.... Sounds funny)

If I'm not mistaken there were versions with stock and scope. And if they add this in hunt someday, I think stock version will be in medium

[hot vigil]

Guees it would be a Bornheim, but with lower fire-rate and bigger ammo pool.
Levering will make it fire faster, maybe as fast as bornheim.

[hot vigil]

That would just be a Vandal at that point :b

But yes, the Volcanic Repeater

[burnt lily]

🤔

[burnt lily]

They can add volcanic-pistol as a modification to it, but it looks like they would add another winchester to hunt

[hot vigil]

Again, it would be a weaker damage Winfield, guess you can give it low(er) recoil and good levering spread as a rifle.

[soft river]

Avtomat will get dolch treatment

If I’m wrong

Then I’m sad

[hot vigil]

I hope

[soft river]

Shredder should get dolch treatment too

[burnt lily]

They were talking about it

[soft river]

🙏 crytek do it

Shredder should get worse damage than nitro base

Maybe 20-30 1 tap

But the best bleed

If it doesn’t already

[burnt lily]

I'm so sorry but what is shredder? I am playing in rus lang and sometimes they makes different name for the same gun

[soft river]

Shredder is the bleed ammo for the nitro

[hot vigil]

The bleed ammo for the Nitro

[burnt lily]

Thanks, but what the hell? I thought that ammo is useless and you need to spend too much to open it

[soft river]

It is far from it

Normal nitro has about a 40m 1 tap range to the torso

Nitro shredder has a 74 meter

Explosive ammo is the useless one

[burnt lily]

I was killed by it about 2 times but I didn't know it's op

[soft river]

It is that powerful

[burnt lily]

Yeah

[burnt lily]

Especially on uppercut

[hot vigil]

Well, explosive ammo needed to be super nerfed due to console.

[worthy knoll]

It will Not
Or they should Just remove it altogether.
Also i only saw 3 Avtos in the Last month

[hot vigil]

Truth, Avto doesn't belong in hunt

[soft river]

They can’t remove the avtomat

[hot vigil]

They can

[soft river]

Unless they refund everyone

Avtomat stays

Its because of skins

[burnt lily]

I saw 2 yesterday

[worthy knoll]

Why is it so fucking hard to make two different Patches?! Why must we suffer because console?

[hot vigil]

Bc Crytek :))))))

[soft river]

Consistency

[hot vigil]

Love the Hunt team tho

[burnt lily]

I have never seen Crytek deleting something from weapon pool

[soft river]

Also hunt on console and hunt on pc are pretty much the same game

Like you can use controller on pc

Get the wheel

Or use keyboard and mouse on console

But the latter is a disadvantage and the former is an advanage

[worthy knoll]

I know but i would hate it to ne stupidly and unlogically nerfed to min existence Like the Dolch...
If you Look at Hunt you might think that more modern firearms were Not adopted because they we're better but because someone was bribed to do so.

[soft river]

Console just has different settings

[hot vigil]

Okay, that simply not true, if you see gameplay clips of PC vs Console you can see there is different weapons that excel on the different platforms.

[soft river]

No

I’m talking about in the literal sense

They are different experiences

They are literally the same game

[worthy knoll]

They should Just do it. Or make explosive 10 bucks Like fire ammo. Its absolutly useless

[hot vigil]

Ah yes and that is an issue, bc they balance the game with the same build. So we get nerfs on console meant for PC and vice versa

[burnt lily]

I played Hunt on console and got there 5 stars, there are a lot of people who knows how to shoot. And if I'm not mistaken there is no auto-aim, so it makes no sense nerfing explosive ammo because of consoles

[soft river]

I mean guns on pc that are overpowered

Ie avto and nitro

Already kind of suck on console

[hot vigil]

Well, before the nerfs, a lot of console constantly complained about how they died to explosive ammo

[worthy knoll]

Aim With Controller is Harder and e.g. the explosive crossbow was nerfed because people in console cried about it ..

[soft river]

I mean console is pretty hard to aim on

Explosive ammo makes it easier

Like objectively

[burnt lily]

Didn't know about that, but I agree that aim is harder

[soft river]

Especially on crossbow

[burnt lily]

But also it is very fun)

[hot vigil]

Basically old explosive ammo could kill effrctivily by shooting at the feet of people.

[soft river]

That sounds very powerful even on pc

Pretty much discourages practicing aiming which is already easier on pc

[burnt lily]

Well, now I can easily understand what went wrong with explosion ammo

[iron trench]

@burnt lily Cool... that's actually a "medium ammo" bolt action... fits perfectly Hunt Showdown.

[worthy knoll]

But they nerfed it unreasonably. Now its more expensive than some Guns that use it and does nothing.
Adding to that the arbitrary "0m Headshot range on explosive Uppercut" was Just stupid. It could Not even 2 tap With 74 dmg...

[burnt lily]

I tried to play with uppercut with explosion ammo and that's hilariously bad experience

[hot vigil]

Well, you would 3 tap people, but the splash and aim punch was good enough for not giving people on console a fighting chance. That is the issue on PC you can still get rebound from the aim punch and shoot people.

[worthy knoll]

Yes. Its so Bad it could be removed entirely and Nobody would cry

[velvet vigil]

Does anything happens with the spawn algorithm? Two day in row we always spawned in the same compound with at least two or three other duos.
It is absolutely unplayable, because at the first match since you have no time to watch around and make your muscles memory working. We are constantly dying int he first couple of minutes.
No way to look around. No way to make some money... Just start the match -> die...

Lot of the kills is absolute bullshit, like guy head shot me with Winfield trough the rock... The Fucking ROCK... Massive piece of the rock...
Other one get hits by Romero from 2m and stays on his feets, but one shot me with Caldwell Rival at the same time... While he was jumping... And I was holding my angle...

Dont know what happens, playing for a while and get used to some times hits the hard times... But the shit storm of inconsistency which I'm facing right now is absolute bullshit...

[lean estuary]

I’m on console, not having any problems with avtos or nitros

I can see how they’d be a pain on PC, aiming is harder on console

[dense schooner]

they’re also op on console. they’re rampant in 6* lobbies

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[burnt mulch]

lol hell no

[vocal ember]

Hallo @hard minnow to much cheater in game information

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[queen jungle]

@vocal ember Hiding the profile is a Steam feature that Crytek cannot influence.

[vocal ember]

@queen jungle Ok i opened all now

[vocal ember]

thx for information

😂

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[austere crown]

He is telling that if u hide statistics in game players cant go to steam profile and beside that it is problem when u wana report someone whit ticket on craytek site.

If someone wana hide statistic u can leave it but not to hide link to profile.

"Open profile" need to stay.

[vocal ember]

how can i report if i dont see the name?

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@queen jungle my profil open for comunity i cant write in ideas chanel

[queen jungle]

You are spelling Title wrong so the bot doesn't recognise it.

[vocal ember]

oh i write titel lool

[austere crown]

You can try add freind and find whit name but is very hard becuse there can be thousunds whit that nickname,as i say players can hide stats but option to open profile need to stay.

[vocal ember]

@queen jungleWho delete my ideas ? on ideas chanel ? and why?

[wheat isle]

how about we let whoever is holding the bounty when time runs out win. im tired of having to push campers

make people play the game not just camp bushes

[past ledge]

This would not fix campers tho?

[wheat isle]

it most definitely woul;d

i would win the game if i just stayed inside

[royal grove]

wait
what happens when the time runs out
i've never had it happen lmao

[radiant river]

Then you'd just camp inside the lair

[wheat isle]

everyone dies when time runs out

yeah

[past ledge]

It would encourage camping inside the compound. That’s not a fix. Death is the true neutralizer

[wheat isle]

but at least we play the game

[past ledge]

Get out or get dead

[royal grove]

that already incentivizes leaving the lair

[wheat isle]

lol

[past ledge]

And no, camping inside isn’t playing the game

Not anymore than camping outside

[wheat isle]

grenades and all sorts of things to make you come in

[radiant river]

No then the game is just back to camping

[royal grove]

what am i reading

[wheat isle]

the game punishes me for beating the boss

why would i even try now

[radiant river]

The whole point of having to extract is to prevent camping

[royal grove]

no the enemy punishes you
because they want the same thing you want

[wheat isle]

id rather just wait far enough away and smoke the person who is highlighted on the map

nah

not seeing it anymore

[radiant river]

You can see them through walls. If they're camping, kill them

[wheat isle]

the game has changed

exactly

it would be better to let the people inside win if they hold the bounty

[royal grove]

no

[wheat isle]

they did the hard work. give it to em

[royal grove]

you're camping

[wheat isle]

or go in and get it

[radiant river]

As much as I hate camping and especially people hiding with snipers, you can usually just run from them

[past ledge]

It punishes you for not extracting

[royal grove]

"camping for me but not for them" is what you're advocating for

[past ledge]

Not for beating the boss

[wheat isle]

yeah and ive done all the work

[radiant river]

What work, killing an ai?

[past ledge]

No, the work is extracting not killing a brainless ai

[wheat isle]

why should i have to play into the hands of my enemy

when im doing more than him

[royal grove]

okay well getting out alive is part of the work
so you haven't actually done the work
you've done a partial job

[past ledge]

Don’t play into his hands, out play his hands

[wheat isle]

well then there is no incentive

[radiant river]

You can literally see them through walls that's your reward

[wheat isle]

ill just keep my distance and smoke dudes for fun

i literally just changed my play style today

i hate the bush wookie campers but i see why they do it

lol doesnt change anything

[royal grove]

you're the same

[wheat isle]

there is 0 bonus for banishing

[royal grove]

you just want to camp the lair
they want to camp outside the lair

[wheat isle]

or maybe banish and run

but i wont pick up bounty prior to killing 1 or 2 teams any longer

its just dumb to try it

[royal grove]

skill issue

[radiant river]

Just play the game for fun and the 1/20 time where you get camped and die won't matter

[wheat isle]

its not a skill issue

it happens like every game

there is always someone out there camping lmao

[radiant river]

Your solution is also not a solution to camping

[royal grove]

i never sit still for more than a minute or two in this game and i have never felt the way you are feeling
use your darksight
kill them
go a different direction
run opposite of evac and wrap

[wheat isle]

ok lemme know how that works for you in the higher elo

[royal grove]

you're not high elo lmao

[radiant river]

Very well probably. Works for me

[wheat isle]

lol

[radiant river]

Even if you hate camping your solution doesn't fix it

[royal grove]

"there's no incentive to get the bounty"

[wheat isle]

no incentive to be the first

lets put it that way

you get it and now you have to dive through 5 other teams

better to just wait and kill 1 or 2 teams and get out

[royal grove]

my man is arguing on the discord while afk ingame behind a tree
go play the game

[wheat isle]

lol

im waiting for them to banish xD

[royal grove]

go shoot them

get the bounty

evac

i.e. play the game

[wheat isle]

im just saying that one change to the game would make it so much better. whoever holds the bounty when the timer ends is the winner

[royal grove]

no

[wheat isle]

but still offer extractions

[royal grove]

wrong

"whoever camps the lair harder wins" great idea

[wheat isle]

it only matters when there are campers out there

i can bust into any lair regardless of the camper

[royal grove]

lol

[wheat isle]

im forcing everyone else to make a move before time runs out

rather than not

[royal grove]

whatever you gotta tell yourself man

gg

[proven portal]

steam servers down?

cant receive or accept invites

[unborn sandal]

it just takes a couple of minutes

[proven portal]

gotcha

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[radiant river]

Yes, because right now people can't bunker down because they know they will have to leave

12 concertina bombs blocking every entrance to the boss lair with them hiding in random corners with shotguns sounds fun

I'd rather them literally remove sniper and marksman scopes from the game

[tawny merlin]

I’m not very impressed with the Stalker Beetle. I think adding the drone camera takes away from the uncertainty and anxiety inherent to the game. But thankfully it’s not something that hurts the game. Overall, I’ve been very happy with this game. And the hypertension it causes me when I get murdered.

[pulsar quest]

I like the Stalker Beetle as a thing that exists, but god DAMN can I not see a damn thing with it.

[unborn dagger]

One of the dumbest suggestions I've ever heard.

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[proud narwhal]

@ocean sorrel s ive never seen that kind of play in my time as 6 star, but jesus, the avto is just insane. 75, headshot is super unlikely from a normal mosin idk why in gods name an avto should be able to lucky shot from that range

[dense schooner]

this channel is really a goldmine

[royal horizon]

@lethal oyster I agree to not give too many rewards for prestige, but at least re-vamp it so the unlock system is not such a pain to deal with. I wouldn't go as extreme as "you unlock this weapon tree fo the duration of this prestige" but at least make it so stuff like throwing axes and the knuckle knife are less tedious to unlock

[lethal oyster]

I totally get that. The thing is, prestige is one of those systems that you really don't have to engage with if you don't feel like it. You're not really losing anything if you just stick to p0.
I think the badge really should be reserved for people who are willing to deal with the inconvenience. Especially now that the unlock trees have been altered, prestige becomes a lot easier to handle already.

[hot vigil]

I used to be a happy prestiger, but the game have simply bloated so much that every prestige runs means you only get to play with a handful of weapons before havin' to prestige again.
Think prestige done right is healthy for the game as it keeps the weapon pool more diverse, but right now you kinda need to commit to a weapon or two if you want their variants unlocked. Custom ammo is for sure the biggest issue among it.

But most of all, I wish the book of weapons/monsters didn't reset every time. It is hard to keep track of.

[proud narwhal]

prestieging for me just means I never get to play with the weapons I want

[hot vigil]

Or that you ONLY get to play with the weapon you want if you wanna grind for certain variant.

[lethal oyster]

Bloat is a good point, actually. Also part of the reason the questlines are so bad for someone who hits the button regularly. I guess that's never really been an issue to me because i dislike the vast majority of variants. Only one I constantly miss is the officer carbine tbh

Oh and the uppercut ofc

[worthy knoll]

Nah they cannot Make me Prestige and Nothing they do will Change that. Its Just Not fun.

[hot vigil]

There is some workarounds for bloat, one would be that weapons (and variants) you've unlocked in the book of weapons gets more exp pr. prestige, so people who commit slowly reduce the tedium.

[hot vigil]

Luckily I despise most long ammo weapons, so I don't worry too much about that :b

[lethal oyster]

See, that's what I mean. It's not like anybody has to prestige. It really is nothing more than a number and some mediocre skins. The prestige system is so unobtrusive i hardly see the point of bringing it up at all. If one doesn't like it, they don't have to do it.

[hot vigil]

That is fine, but for the people who likes it, they make it better :b

Well, my counter point is that I know a lot of people (including myself) that used to like the prestige, it is nice to be forced into certain weapons for a while, but it simply becomes more and more punishing with amount of unlocks now.

[lethal oyster]

Being annoyed by that is totally understandable. But in the end, that only makes the prestige number more valuable if you're willing to go through that larger inconvenience

[hot vigil]

Eeeeh, there is a balance between inconvenience and fun.
Moreso a more attractive prestige system would diversify the weapon pool, so people ain't only running high cash S-tier weapons every match.

[worthy knoll]

I agree With both of you that Prestige should be more rewarding for those that want to do it.
While Not punishing those that do Not want to. (As some have suggested in the Last)

[royal horizon]

exactly, it should be at least worth something, and not an avtive slob to do. It's supposed to be challenging, not tedious

[worthy knoll]

And Not hinder people who dont want to Prestige.

[royal horizon]

yep

[unborn gyro]

For the first thousand or two hours in this game I just sat at rank 1 level 100 but then started to prestige out of boredom then hit 100. I don't really feel like there is a point. Bragging rights for what? Too much free time? It's exactly that. Dunno. Feels like it should be more than it is.

There was talk about hunter customization long ago but I think that went away. It would be nice if prestige unlocked hunter presets or something based on the tiers/skin. You can setup hunters for certain tasks - like redshirt i'd setup as shotgun/bomblance type thing. If you're going to invest the kind of time it takes to hit 100 in the current system there should be some baseline mechanical advantages. Back in day there were fewer skins but now they're literally a dime a dozen. The game has so many skins.

[royal horizon]

we need an expanded loadout system.

Like more loadout slots, loadout folders, the ability to filter loadouts bases on the traits the hunters have (I can choose to show all the loadouts that benefit from, let's say levering)

why isn't this a thing already ? why do we have to PAY for loadout slot ? Why are there only 10 of them ?

[unborn gyro]

The answer to all of your questions is money. Features are behind paywall. You don't buy a full featured game anymore, sadly.

[royal horizon]

if hunt was ftp, i would accept that. But its 40 DOLLARS

[unborn gyro]

Seems like some changes they've partially implemented has positioned the game to possibly go free to play at some point. Ping/region lock, more focus on micro trans, etc. I personally have stopped spending money on the game until servers are improved. I won't buy a battlepass, skin, etc. until the game is more stable and responsive. I'm in the minority here so take it for what it's worth .. not much.

[royal horizon]

it's true that a LOT of the feature that are "implemented" are very half-baked

[unborn gyro]

The game is starting to feel bloated at this point. I love hunt don't get me wrong but the UI needs work and the amount of scrolling and time spent in menu is a bit cumbersome. At this point skins are just more clutter in my mind.

[royal horizon]

I agree with you, I love the aesthetic of Hunt, it's weapons, its universe.

But the game it's in a such sorry state rn

[pure quest]

Yeah more skins really equals a worse UI😆

[unborn gyro]

Not sure I'd go so far as to say half-baked .... I would say that Crytek isn't realizing the full value of the game. Watching the streams and what not the lead developer(s) do care a great deal but they seem hamstrung over infrastructure. That's my hot take anyway. So a fair number of half measures lead to worsening of the overall product. Things don't always feel cohesive but I dunno. I just wish the servers were better. Maybe movement a bit less janky.

[royal horizon]

True, the servers and optimisation are the bane of this game right now

[royal horizon]

How come we still don't have a grid for selecting hunters instead of the horizontal scolling stuff ? I want to favourite my hunters

[pure quest]

I think its one of the most suggested things. Just list the basic versions, and only once you select one you get a drop down menu or something for the specific skins

For legendary hunters, they already have the grid but it's just in the store, not the recruitment 😆

I think, apart from server issues, the bane is avto/nitro/special ammo

I did enjoy the game more before these things

[royal horizon]

it's mind-boggling that they didn't implement such basic UI design

[pure quest]

Eh I mean, initially it was fine I guess as there just wasn't that much to pick

But if you now unlock everything and keep buying dlc, it turns into a big mess

One more reason for me to not buy DLC, between the event skins and skins I've picked up from other hunters, it's bad enough as it is

[unborn gyro]

I would argue some items feel mandatory. Choke bomb and a medkit are two good examples. With fire bomb changes that pretty much forced people to take chokes. Example of half measures .. maybe should have added water buckets to the world like lanterns then changed fire bombs. Two slots out of every loadout are pretty much "must haves" ... we have all these tools and I get the importance of making a choice but decisions made actually lead to fewer gameplay options.

Back in the day you didn't need a choke but now it feels like you do. That was a developer decision that didn't really improve the game IMO -- fire bombs lasting longer.

[pure quest]

I never (rarely) play with chokes🤔

[unborn gyro]

Do you primarily play solo? Do you let your friends turn into fried chicken?

No pun intended?

[royal horizon]

chokes are kind of "optionnal" if you're playing solo, but we have so many tool options and I always have to use the same ones because they're almost required

[lean estuary]

You never take chokes when you end up needing them

[pure quest]

One QoL feature I would like is having every hunter for bounty hunt come with a medkit

[lean estuary]

Same with a scoped weapon

[pure quest]

The decision to add that in quickplay, but not BH is absurd imo

[royal horizon]

They should make some "specialised" slots, like one for a medkit, and one for a spyglass/lamp

[unborn gyro]

Maybe they're gearing up for that with some of the price changes. If all hunters came with a basic kit (e.g. chokes, medkit) then they'd need to offset that.

[pure quest]

1 medkit = 1 clue?😆

[unborn gyro]

It would be nice to have a dedicated support slot.

we can hope!

[royal horizon]

yea, that would encourage teamplay

[unborn gyro]

hope and 3 bucks (with inflation) will get you a cup of coffee .. used to be a quarter but now I'm old and cranky

[pure quest]

No, but it's more often not needed than needed

So I prefer traps

[royal horizon]

I am very much not a trap person

I rarely use them

[lean estuary]

Hey, for $1 some gas stations will give you a 16oz that’s been boiling in plastic since 4:00AM

[worthy knoll]

Out of all the Matches i Played Yesterday 4h) i only needed chokes once.
And then we needed 4 because people camped the Body With shotguns and concertina.
I Take or Always when in a Team but a Lot of Times the fight ist over faster than you need Them.
I agree that every Hunter should come With a free medkit slot

Also yes, I let people burn and have No Problems burning Out myself when the Situation ist Bad. No Point fighting a Battle you cannot win and Feed other Players.

[lean estuary]

I actually think Dynamite should put out all fires

[unborn gyro]

that's a good suggestion it would be an alternative to chokes

[lean estuary]

But then you wouldn’t have the rock-paper-scissors board game dynamic and you could clear concertina and fire with one “consumable”

[unborn gyro]

hell, water buckets in the game like laterns ... or we all get waterskins .. pour out the canteen of bourbon and bring some high quality H20 for those bad situations

[pure quest]

World Water buckets I think are ideal

[lean estuary]

Yeah, someone else and myself suggested sand buckets too

[pure quest]

Throw one into a immolator to insta kill it

Like now I often quickly grab a lantern to clear a clue

[unborn gyro]

Good discussion. A lot of potential with new ways to deal with old problems. I have to bail. Everyone have a good day.

[lean estuary]

You too!

[royal horizon]

have a good day !

[karmic mesa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guzCqyBzidQ

just sad that game

[trail carbon]

Well, chokes are just way to good not to take. They put out fires, stop explosives, create a slight smokescreen, force enemy hunters out of position, cause coughing, and this all works through walls.

[lean estuary]

They are great…Although I wish they’d change that last part.

[exotic halo]

@loud nebula this is the 1800s sorry but no RPGS bro or unless you are saying the bomb Lance but Instead of a spear it's a spade

[loud nebula]

the spade rpg is the inspiration, its meant as a modified harpoon gun/bomblance variant

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[chilly nova]

Please get your smurfing situation handled.

Sure, hackers are rare, but not smurfs. All over the place.

[worthy knoll]

And how?
The Thing is its Not illegal to buy the Game multiple Times... There is No way of stopping smurfing

[unborn sandal]

I've seen people drop mmr purposefully to screw newer/bad players

They could make it much harder to get into 3/4 star once you've hit 6 star but I doubt crytek would do that

[chilly nova]

odd how so many people in this discord defend things that are commonly regarded as negative in online gaming

[craggy swan]

Probably been asked already, but custom games? Is that still on the road map at all?

[half stag]

Internal roadmap, but don't expect it any time soon

[craggy swan]

S A D. I am in a discord FULL of other Hunt players and we wanna get in-houses going

[stray horizon]

sameeeee

would be so fun

[radiant river]

Whenever the test server is up (like right now) you can all queue at the same time and get into the same match almost gauranteed as long as it's not the first day or two of the update

[craggy swan]

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[worthy knoll]

I never Said its good behaviour or that I Approve of it. And while its unsportsmanlike, there is no Law against buying a Game a Second time. Its that simple.

Thus there is nothing you can do. And furthermore, lets be reasonable: why would crytek do something against people buying their Product more than once (Not even thinking of DLC).

[worthy knoll]

Quickplay mmr should Not affects Bounty Hunt and Vice versa i agree.

But doing that is something entirely different from stopping people from buying a new Copy of the Game on a new Steam Account.

[lean estuary]

Quigley’s gun would be fine in Hunt (pretty close to Nitro, though), but the actual Quigley character is too tonally dissonant

[unborn dagger]

I see suggestions about having a block for the melee weapons but if it was implemented, it feels like it would be either incredibly frustrating or really useless.

[stoic trout]

Hi, i made a Suggestionen two das ago. I would like to know because many dont like the idea of switching left and right peek? In reality i would switch my weapon to my cover too. I am interrested to hear arguments thx

[crystal plume]

I personally don't like the idea of any any options that make holding angles and such even more common, stuff like being able to prone and such have been generally heavily downvoted in the past and I feel like leaning falls into that same category

They have already stated as well that left peek is something they want to fix

[stoic trout]

@crystal plume thx. Ok didnt know devs want to fix this. I didnt meaned kind of leaning like in other fps games. Only switch from left to right that you dont have such a big disadvantage like at the moment

[unborn gyro]

adjustable crouch like in tarkov would give us so many juicy angles in Hunt

[lean estuary]

I would actually love a real peak left and right control (but I’m on console)

Regarding Flash Bombs - I don’t know why people have such a huge problem with these?? I don’t often encounter them on console…and the effective range seems pretty short, to the point where 85% of the time I use one, I don’t hit anyone, or it’s only a partial flash. You have to have a really good idea of where someone is to completely blind them. Unless I’m not getting something about it, it seems like players aren’t considering all of ways to prevent that from happening or putting yourself within range of a throw. Seems like it’s the same players dividing gameplay into “PUSH” actions or “CAMPING” actions.

Half the point of Hunt is finding creative solutions to combat problems

[brave ruin]

@upbeat axle they already payed to many streamers, did several events on twitch and while release steam had a huge banner. Low community here because devs splitted it with weird decisions in gameplay, gunplay and etc. Plus lack of good servers, ideas and modes. They wanted to make this game for everyone, but did common bland Battle Royale with a skin store.

[lean estuary]

Just curious, what’s an example of a weird decision with gameplay/gunplay? Also, what should the game have been, in your opinion? (I’m asking really because I haven’t followed the development closely over the years)

[brave ruin]

In v1.0 they removed adad, for hardcore players they added DSB, red warnings and sway, so after game become to a casual as hell shooter. For players which liked monsters devs did nothing (even behavior of them like in mmo, but should be like in horror game). They also changed gun play several times. Bosses kinda useless. They removed tires of hunters an killed economics in game. I even do not remember all of changes.
For me, this game must be a hunting game in the first. So, pve in this game and horror elements must play a huge role, but it must be balanced with pvp. Right now Hunt more pvp, this is the reason why pve is boring. Also in the game must be several modes:
Bounty Hunt - default horror hunting mode for solo and duos with balanced pve and pvp
Quick play - must be with gameplay which have bounty hunt now with trios and etc. Pure pvp mode.
Pve - for a new players, where people can finish events and etc.

[lean estuary]

Yeah I think I agree with your general idea. Were there extra tiers of hunters before? What monster behavior is like MMO instead of pure horror?

What is DSB, too?

[brave ruin]

Yeah, all tiers had different health, so 1 or free hunters was only for pve and collecting money. And only with tier 2 and 3 you can fight for bounty. As you can see, devs removed some kind of preparing for real battle. What's why pve become useless.
Monster behavior suposted to be like in resident evil.
Dsb (dark sight boost) its a special vision which shows other players. In alpha was only dark sight, so you can see only clues.

[upbeat axle]

Sounds like your pretty bitter.

[lean estuary]

Ohhh, DSB when you have a bounty token

*you’re

Thanks for writing out an answer to me @brave ruin , I really appreciate it!

[brave ruin]

No problem x3

[frosty garnet]

@ripe osprey, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
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[radiant river]

I feel like not many people share this opinion besides the decreased importance of pve

Things like bugs, exploits, or boring metas are what you see people complain about

[royal grove]

Bad takes above

[karmic ivy]

@quasi tide ROFL, You think they are lying to you? That is paranoid and narcissistic.
Why would they "need" to lie to you? You think it matters?
It makes a lot more sense to take them at their word, since there is no good reason to lie to us about it.

Tell me, what motivation do you propose they have to lie about the reload bug being here for a few months?

[frosty garnet]

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[wide totem]

@turbid bane YESYESYEY=YESYESYESYESYESYESYES

[quasi tide]

Just look at the stream and shup up 🙂 never reply to me please, everything somebody wrote here about Crytek fails, you superhero writing bullshit every time... I especially wrote "just check her last stream if someone or mods want "show me the proof" statement" and you don't understand and do nothing just asking dumb questions as always

[karmic ivy]

I can't find a good motivation for them to lie, so I was curious what you think they would gain from it.

[proud narwhal]

@rotund oasis you CAN keep your trophy weapons, they just need to be stored on hunters

Back before I started prestigeing I had about 30 level 50 hunters in my roster just sitting there with an entire loadout of dolches, nitro, avtomats, uppercuts

At my peak I had close to 40 dolches all on hunters maxed out

I would like there to be a proper way to have them in your inventory so you don't need to bother, but the option is there to store them on hunters

[rotund oasis]

I already had to start doing that. But I don't want to have to buy hunter slots eventually and do inventory management just to keep a weapon I earned by killing another hunter.

[proud narwhal]

Yeah it sucks doing it that way :/

At least we're able to keep them even though it's not entire intended we store them on hunters

[rotund oasis]

We already can't sell them. The only real thing the contraband limit does is preventing people from farming free hunter gear.

[stray horizon]

ye but how would you even "farm it"? you have to kill the people initially and you can only take out the one gun

if I kill 5 people with nitros I should get to keep those nitros

I think they should either remove the contraband limit or raise it to five like every other gun

[lean estuary]

This does seem to be what people focus on, the competitive E-Sports aspects of PvP multiplayer…I would like something to make the PVE more significant, and maybe interrupt the PvP during the game a little bit

Not sure what, or how

[vocal ember]

Things like this have happened many times before this video, but I've come to the conclusion that this game is broken now. @hard minnow

[crystal plume]

If I had to guess the head moved just enough from the recoil of him shooting, but there's probably no point in me trying to argue about it 😄

[vocal ember]

I suggest you watch it in slow motion.

[unborn sandal]

@quasi tide Maybe they were talking about the reserve ammo bug that just showed up recently and called it the reload bug

[bold valley]

posted starshell rework idea. General gist is to rework the starshell into being more of a firework than a flare. With overall gameplay niche being that you sacrifice your short range combat ability for a round that can flush targets from cover at range with a weak explosive

[unborn dagger]

Ngl I've had that situation happen a couple of times so yeah I dunno how that happens

Like I had my sparks scope dead on the guys head and it some how misses

[burnt mulch]

isn't this just a weird explosive crossbow?

starshell legitimately doesn't need too much help, it just needs to be quieter.

[bold valley]

sorta, though due to smaller payload, much less of a direct damage dealer than the explosive crossbow, with more of a incendiary focus

[somber glade]

@iron trench I like your ideas, those downvotes are from people who exploit the various things you mentioned.

[crude ivy]

Just copypasting my suggestion from yesterday, hoping to discuss it a little. I'd like to see what people think are pros and cons of this, personally I don't see any negatives other than quartermaster loadouts with multiple scopes being easier to use.

Title: Merge Perks

Merge Iron Sharpshooter/Repeater/Devastator, Deadeye/Marksman/Sniper Scopesmith, and Steady Aim/Hand into a single perk for each function. Could simply be "Remain in iron sights after firing a shot" "Remain in Scope after firing a shot" "Weapon sway gradually lessens while looking through a scope"

Price could be increased even if it feels necessary, it would just make things more convenient and less specific. It would also help reduce the amount of unlocks on the bloodline, freeing up space for newer items.

[royal grove]

On the one hand I like the idea of condensing perks
On the other hand it removes incentive for specialization

[fresh lynx]

It does ask a question in what the purpose of perks should be. I'd like to think that the best kind of perks open up a new way to play, fanning for example totally changes how you use pistols at close ranges, and the aforementioned quartermaster allows many builds to even exist! Slightly faster firing while ADS isn't as transformative, you are doing what you would have been doing anyways, but slightly faster.

I don't particularly care for the design of the latter. If we were to roll in these Iron ___ into one perk, it may need to be more expensive to offset the flexibility, which would then remove points to be spent on other perks. Though what are the odds that you will have multiple iron (blank) perks active for a single loadout besides quartermaster anyways? Might be good just for convenience sake, disregarding the (IMO) boring, non-transformative design

[karmic ivy]

@primal ether The way you describe the 800ms threshold of the Hit Validation System shows that you do not understand what the Hit Validation system is, and why we need it.
You are correct that it would be best if we could play without such systems. But that is not possible in a multiplayer games such as Hunt, that use client side hit detection.

There are resources published by crytek and various you tubers that can help you understand the intricacies of latency in multiplayer games (with client side hit detection, and server side hit validation) if you want to learn about it. It is not actually hard to understand, but you could say some parts are counter-intuitive to most players.

After you learn how it works, it will be easy to see that we need the Hit Validation system and appreciate how it would be different, and in my opinion, less fun, if we did not have it in place.
My hat is off to the developers for doing such a nice job with it. The gunplay here in Hunt is very crisp and clean, It is smooth and lacks the strange feeling of something being wrong with the timing of combat and death (as can happen in games with server side hit detection).
The gunplay in Hunt is what draws me to it, and the way the gunplay unfolds is dictated by the hit detection and validation systems.

Instead of assuming the system has been neglected, you should take the fact that the values (for the hit validation system) have not been changed since they were implemented as a good sign that we are near optimal in this regard.