feedback-discussion

[soft river]

@stray horizon 5-6 is excessive

@upbeat axle what is that skin for

What gun was it

[upbeat axle]

Oh no don't misunderstand my disgruntlement. No I just simply dislike the Bear's Tooth, as it caused us to miss out on that beautiful crossbow skin, its old bitterness, nothing against mosins.

[stray horizon]

maybe three or four?

yeah I guess Lightfoot is six but really should still be five so probably would be four for that perk then

[soft river]

It used to be 2

[upbeat axle]

We hada contest a while ago, that crossbow skin was put up, and so was Bears Tooth, Bears tooth won.

[soft river]

So why not 2

[stray horizon]

I mean taking sound away from reload is like really huge though

I use reload to find people in the middle of a firefight like a lot

maybe it gets combined with silent killer and then it's five or six points? so then it would cost a total of 12 points to take sound away if you included Lightfoot I mean I think that sounds balanced

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[royal horizon]

I get how you're feeling, I don't play the crossbow a lot so I don't see its skins often. But I really hope they make a skin contest for the under-represented weapons out there

[vocal ember]

Here's the Beetle g you brought, I congratulate you, you brought more campers to the game.As a solo player, I want a balance to be struck against this. Like a Beetle attacking a Beetle @hard minnow

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Increase the chance of getting bad hand please. Also could make Mr. Cherry/dark tribute into like an old time slot machine where you pull the lever each slot of exp is one coin```

[limpid umbra]

Cant say i agree with you on this

Bounty hunt is better with friends, yea i guess you can play solo, but its preferred that you play it with a rando or someone u know (what ive gathered)

By playing solo you inherently put yourself at a massive disadvantage, you have a karabiner silencer, take the beetles out. They wont know where the shots come from so you can sneak in.

As ive played over time, yea the beetle kinda sucks, but its really loud and predictable. Just run away and relocate.

[worthy knoll]

@upbeat axle I agree. Its a shame that mosins ein because they are Mosins

[vocal ember]

they createt more camper with this

[main cradle]

It’s not really an anti camping tool. It’s more for recon and helping with intelligence gathering

But it’s been like two months since the update game out

Kinda late to the party

[limpid umbra]

Camping is gonna happen regardless

If you are the better player you can 100% draw them out/waste their resources

[elfin zephyr]

Funny how solo players want things catered to them in duos and trios.

[upbeat axle]

Mosin has a total of 14 skins. Crossbow with hand crossbow included has 7. Just as a point of contrast. even more so, Scotty Swift and precision have no skins at all. BUT to be fair, it's been a while since they even released a mosin skin.

[worthy knoll]

I have No Problem With crytek releasing skins that they Design but its Just a shame that the Community votes on skins based in the weapon they get for free and Not the skin.

[upbeat axle]

Agreed, plus in the case of the event, we never got to see those skins again. I don't even remember the others.

[limpid umbra]

this

[worthy knoll]

Agreed. The Thing is, If i we're a Designer i would gravitate to Design a "meta" gun Just to eben my Changes.

[limpid umbra]

@winter shard im sorry whats there to fix?

you hit the post

[winter shard]

check feedback

channel

[cursive jewel]

Poor @winter shard I've been gettin that shit a ton lately too

[winter shard]

sadge 😦

[elfin zephyr]

?

[knotty ore]

Is there a single use for a poison bomb? I don't think I've thrown one, or seen it thrown in over 600 hours.

Can it actually be useful somehow? Can you allow it to bounce off the first surface it hits? And increase the poison radius?

[analog nimbus]

Antidote shot and poison bomb make the assassin fight kinda funny I guess

[knotty ore]

But, you can just use the crossbow

[analog nimbus]

True but sometimes people wanna bring a different secondary I guess

[unborn smelt]

Killing bosses pretty fast and quiet, it can be used for some pretty weak area denial or to force the use of a choke.
It's got some very very niche uses, but there's a reason noone takes them...

[knotty ore]

But, xbow does the same thing and its generally more useful and more charges

I don't see a single use for it

[main cradle]

That doesn’t mean the poison bomb doesn’t have used

[elfin zephyr]

Poison bomb dead bodies is about it or fighting a boss

[main cradle]

Rang gave you uses

[knotty ore]

I know how it can be used, but it makes no sense to use a slot for a single poison bomb when you can bring a small crossbow and it has tons of uses and generally a good util weapon that can be refilled from ammo boxes.

Anyone who buys a poison bomb, why?

[main cradle]

Cause I like to use it as a way to deny people getting in, bodies, and well

I don’t want to bring a small crossbow when I can bring a gun

[knotty ore]

Oh god I'm pretty sure you are trolling again

[main cradle]

No I’m not

I’m being serious with that

I use poison bombs, cause I can

[knotty ore]

If you are using it for denying bodies why wouldn't you just bring concertina bomb?

[analog nimbus]

You're focused on the hand crossbow, where some people may not like it or it may not suit their build, so some pocket poison could be okay, y'know?

[main cradle]

Dude, a concertina is better for wide areas

Not a single body

Ether way, they gonna die

[elfin zephyr]

You are comparing a small slot to a tool. So with that logic why buy a pistol when derringers exist

[knotty ore]

Ok you trolling, bye.

[main cradle]

I’m not trolling, dude

[knotty ore]

Dude, concertina bomb is superior for denying rez in every situation.

Its one slot

[main cradle]

So is fire

So is poison hell poison is better

Cause the cloud damages

[analog nimbus]

I feel like they could give the poison bomb a bit more something though, range, maybe they buy in a bundle of 2

[main cradle]

Tbh, bundles of two would be nice

Like still gotta equip one but hey

More bang for ya Buck

[analog nimbus]

I do think edible is right about concertina though, I've found most "good" players I see throw it on corpses and it covers them pretty well

Unchokeable

[main cradle]

But still, doesn’t mean there’s not a use for poisons

[analog nimbus]

True, they just fill a really really tight niche

Also malady is a banging skin

[main cradle]

It’s a niche, but still has a use

So saying poison bombs have no use, is false

[wary hinge]

the issue with poison bombs is that every use it has is covered by some other thing that does it better
combined with the fact theres an item in the game that also directly makes it useless

[knotty ore]

I would say that poison bomb in its current state has no uses because other tools are better for doing the same thing. If poison bomb was permanent and only cleared by fire, I think it would be good.

[analog nimbus]

I actually like that idea a lot, cleared by fire

Could make a small explosion as it ignites the cloud

[wary hinge]

i always liked the idea of the poison mists being flammable

[worthy knoll]

The Thing is every Thing the poison bomb does can be fine by Others consumables but better.
Convertina Bomb for Area/revive denial.
Fire Bomb for are denial that cannot be countered by a consumable.

[crystal plume]

Fire is more accessible than choke bombs, so to me it makes more sense to have the poison be cleared with choke bombs as it currently is rather than fire

There's lanterns everywhere

[knotty ore]

I've never loaded into a game without chokes unless I'm solo

Its common courtesy

[analog nimbus]

I mean at this point everybody brings chokes, but if you poison a downed body they have to choose to burn and choke it

If fire cleared poison

[wary hinge]

I like the whole fire thing kinda for making it as an "explosive gas" setup tool

put a flare trap under the poison mist and you have your own mini barrel trap for example

[knotty ore]

Its like divinity 2, make poison explode when fire touches it, even grunts with torches or lamps.

[wary hinge]

yeah

[knotty ore]

If would make poison bombs tier A or S instead of the forgotten closet tier they currently are.

[crystal plume]

So yet another extremely annoying trap combo, poison tripmine with alert tripmine? No thanks, poison and concertina is already enough of a hassle to deal with

[knotty ore]

Duuude that would be sick. Alert and poison makes a bomb tripmine that does like 90% damage to someone.

[analog nimbus]

Doesn't need to be a red barrel explosion, maybe more hellfire style

[knotty ore]

The good thing about traps is its easy to play around them we have tons of tools

[wary hinge]

i love trapping stuff

its just such a fun and devious playstyle

[knotty ore]

Poison and tina is an instant kill I'd rather have something esle

Make all other tool poison not permanent, just bomb

Setting off poison bomb cloud with fire ammo would also be a thing

Its totally balanced

[analog nimbus]

Would look super pretty on night maps

[wary hinge]

would also give flare guns another use

[knotty ore]

You could also chain fire ammo poison cloud and barrels

Tina is waaay more annoying as most of the time you have to hack it with axes.

[analog nimbus]

Always carry a good ol fashioned wax dynamite stick

[knotty ore]

So weak... so weak (uncle roger voice)

[soft river]

@knotty ore Couldn’t you just put it infront of a door

Completely blocking it off

[knotty ore]

A barrel?

[soft river]

Yes

[knotty ore]

Yeah, but someone could shoot it blowing the door up

[soft river]

Fire barrel?

Only explosive barrel could be completely gotten rid of

And it would give away their position if they’re trying to hide it

Also barrel traps are like the one insta kill trap I like so I’m biased

[knotty ore]

Sure there are uses, but I don't see how thats op as you can do the same thing with a kill trap. With a barrel you can open the door in the other direction by walking backwards when you open the door and just vault over the barrel

[soft river]

I don’t like poison+concertina, ability to put an insta kill trap anywhere is a little op

[knotty ore]

But, there are like 30 ways to get into most buildings

[soft river]

Yes but those buildings have a few chokepoints within them

[knotty ore]

Plus if you move slowly enough while holding the barrel its a risk as someone could shoot it

Risk v reward is good imo

[soft river]

Yes but you can just do it when you’re safe

[knotty ore]

Say you dont have enough time to put it down and run if someone shoots it

Blocking one door making quiet entry through there impossible is not that op as you have tons of options

If you have the trait you can just move the barrel too

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[bitter frost]

Ive said it before and ill say it again along with a good bit of the community echoing my sentiment. Frag Bombs are still OP. Hands down. The fact that they have run this rampant for as long as they have is disheartening to say the least. The fact that they cause heavy bleeding through objects at considerable range is strong enough on its own, then you allow them to kill a hunter at full health at a disgusting distance as well? And its not affected by bulwark?? Plain and simple. The frag bomb needs its full health kill range reduced by half and to be affected by Bulwark. There, balanced. Still very dangerous and worth bringing but not the OP broken game mechanic that it currently is.

[wooden lily]

Imo it is not that bad, I have died like Twice to a frag bomb, in my 15 prestiges

The bleed sucks usually

But direct death, so rare

[wooden lily]

Pop Antidode, drop poison bomb, stand in Cloud, watch assassin die as you go afk

(teammate actually lost connection while doing this and singlehandedly killed the boss while I was watching)

[balmy sparrow]

Average antidote fan
VS
Average antidose enjoyer

[wooden lily]

It was a spelling mistake

It is 6:41am and I have not slept

[balmy sparrow]

Still a chad tho

A rather good boy

[wooden lily]

Hehe

[balmy sparrow]

[elfin zephyr]

Frags are op i have had them kill me through 5 feet of concrete when i was at full health

[wooden lily]

Man, I really wanna know, where you find 1.5 meters of solid concrete. Hunt has some bunkers that I must not know of

[thorn vector]

Firework boxes??

[balmy sparrow]

Using help of this distinguished gentleman

[wooden lily]

Love that meme

[radiant river]

@night fog they did?

[wind stream]

@night fog you just posted the announcement of the thing you are asking for

not sure what Im missing here

[balmy sparrow]

Ahorn, darling, you are clearly unfit for 4d chess with time travel

Lemme explain

So, our tarogaro here played a gambit of "oh shit, apparently it has been done already, i should post a screenshot to show everyone that i found my mistake and understood it"

It's a rather bold strategy, but works most of the time, focused on confusing an enemi

[vocal ember]

can you please fix this bullet, when it shoots at the enemy we only see fire@Crytek

[hot vigil]

So... what is exactly wrong here?

[night fog]

If you actually paid attention... When you extract it tells you that you get total victory IF you get out with all the bounties

If you got no bounty it just says failure or something

Very cool... Sure thanks. So I survived the bayu and I lost

[night fog]

You didn't notice? Maybe I'm one of the few

[wind stream]

are you sure that is still the case?

[night fog]

Pretty sure unless it was changed today

I can check in like 5 minutes

Let me get on hunt

I personally don't like it. Like sure I know I got no bounty but you know...

You live to die another day. Sounds better than oh yeah you're a failure

Just rub it in my face

[night fog]

Lol big brain right here bruh lmao

Okay so apparently if boss isn't even banished yet game tells you nothing at all

[balmy sparrow]

[soft river]

@real slate

i'm pretty sure the main problem comes from EAC

[fathom geyser]

@tidal thicket yoo that would also fix left side peek advantage

@real slate you want people to play on pc servers, using controller controls, shitty mobile internet in a competetive shooter?

[real slate]

well actually you can connect keyboard and mouse to it, and some people do own proper internet connections, even on mobile

[sharp veldt]

@night fog As you can see in my announcement, "You Live to Die Another Day" is back, as of 10.0.3. You can see it here from on of our Hunt Partners day of the hotfix - https://clips.twitch.tv/HandsomeEasyDragonfruitPermaSmug-3P43AxYBE4Pjswzj

[night fog]

Damn that's awesome. Thanks

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[wide sedge]

Top server really 💩

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[sharp veldt]

@shut token Could you send me a screenshot of the detailed in-game stats and also what your usual ping is? 🙂

[sharp veldt]

@amber tundra Could you send me a screenshot of the detailed in-game stats and also what your usual ping is? 🙂

[lethal dirge]

I wouldnt want to play with anyone using a steam deck because they probably wouldnt have that stuff

Like when I hear someone's playing with apple earbuds or some junk like that. I say "no thanks" and leave

[knotty ore]

Accessibility is never a bad thing. Plus, if they are bad on any platform and you are matched with/against them... I have news for you.

[odd geyser]

Apple earbuds work on ps4 for me🤷

[lethal dirge]

while youre not wrong, hunt is a game where hardware can and will put you at a disadvantage. It reminds me of a post someone made about hunt not being accessible to the hearing impaired- while unfortunate, if they added something like, say, closed captions, everyone would be forced to use them due to the advantage they provide in giving people hints of nearby hunters, distant gunshots, etc. Since the captions would need to also list distance to be at all usable

[elfin zephyr]

Just like fortnite

[lethal dirge]

does fortnite do that?

[elfin zephyr]

Yeah shows gunshots, foot steps ect

[lethal dirge]

does it show distance and direction though? If not it'd be pretty useless in hunt

[elfin zephyr]

Doesnt show exact distance but is a brighter color the closer it is

[lethal dirge]

yea fam idk that sounds stupid overpowered in hunt

[elfin zephyr]

It is in any game but i get why it exists

[knotty ore]

Eh if the steam deck can run witcher 3, it can run Hunt adequately. I run pretty low settings for better FPS and visibility anyway. I think a steam deck can run my settings with above 60 fps.

[austere crown]

Is there resaon why rus players like(zero hit markers on them we all know) to play on EU servers all the time?

[main cradle]

Better servers

Better player pool

[austere crown]

Sure,one of beatter jokes this month.

[main cradle]

Dude, you asked for reasons, I gave you reasons

[tawny meadow]

I'm a EU player and sometimes i end up in Russian server, ping is not that bad (around 60-90), so i fail to see the problem.

[austere crown]

Hmm,i dont know how much u understand ping and internet problems or paccet lose,but whne u plya on EU vs rus players mostly time they eatbullets u have no hit markers on them.

[main cradle]

Do you have proof. Of any of this?

[tawny meadow]

I understand enough of it for seeing that this is not a real issue.

[austere crown]

If u read comments about that u willl see 8 from 10 players from EU will tell u that.NA players have same problem whit south amecricans.

[tawny meadow]

I read a lot of things

[main cradle]

Uh, no

That shit got fixed

[austere crown]

hahahhahahaha

[main cradle]

US East is working

[austere crown]

@main cradle man u have best jokes in this discord.

[main cradle]

I’m not joking

You’re just swimming in ya own salt pool

[tawny meadow]

Can you argument with actual facts instead of saying that everyone is joking?

And i don't mean just "i've read that people complain"

[main cradle]

As I said, actual proof. Got the proof?

[austere crown]

Read feedback.

[main cradle]

.

[tawny meadow]

8 complain on 10 is you asking for region lock

so not very useful feedback

[main cradle]

So uh

I read feedback and

[austere crown]

@tawny meadow u say that players dont complain on playing vs rus players on EU in feedback?

[main cradle]

Wow, these are some convincing people

[tawny meadow]

Sorry but i tend not to trust people that argument with "My ping sucks, but ehy we got another DLC"

[main cradle]

Nor would anyone listen to someone being hostile over a game

[tawny meadow]

Since there's a fallacy in the basic logic of the argument

[main cradle]

Why is this argument even happening?

This is like, filler issue #796

[austere crown]

@tawny meadow i see u are like resto of some here who dont wana say ok we are wrong we will try to do something about that.THere is no point to have any type of disscusion whit someone who have that atidute.

[tawny meadow]

I had some spare minutes

[main cradle]

Oh same

[tawny meadow]

On that, we agree 🙂

[radiant river]

90% of the time if you ask these people for a clip and they have it, you can see they just missed

And for ping, if the person "ping abusing" had lower ping they likely would have just killed you even faster, as opposed to not killing you at all which is usually what those people believe

[main cradle]

Yeah. They play poorly for a single game, they claim the game is broken

[calm maple]

crossplay between console and pc... that would be a bloodbath

[elfin zephyr]

Not really

[latent forge]

Console dies and pc wins

[stray horizon]

yeah but you may as well just do it people can opt in

if console people want to go for it they can

[calm maple]

have you seen console gameplay?! literally just trios crouching over the map 99% of the time.

[stray horizon]

@steel dawn wait what was the contracts button going to do?

[elfin zephyr]

I play console and pc. Console isn’t crouching 99% of the time get out of here with that nonsense

[digital vessel]

Before they disabled contracts you could pick which boss at what time of day to go after.

But people used that to get empty lobbies.

[stray horizon]

oh I didn't even play the game when that was a thing

I guess I've just never even noticed that button until you mentioned it lol

[stray horizon]

yeah I mean who is going to pick the assassin

the way they could bring it back though would be like a supply and demand thing. like yeah maybe no one wants to go after the assassin or lame people don't want to do night maps but if you make the bounty worth double for that because fewer people are doing it well then maybe people will do it

[steel dawn]

Hence get rid of it

[digital vessel]

You got bonuses but not enough people used it, so lots of empty lobbies were used to farm levels.

[dusk laurel]

I play on console and no, it isn't like that

[calm maple]

re dlc prices: crytek is probably using the regional pricing calculator from steam that's majorly messed up for palces with high inflation right now

[limpid umbra]

huh

[calm maple]

chatted with another dev recently that used that and it was super high for lower income regions and they had to manually go in and adjust that

then again maybe I'm wrong, who knows

[limpid umbra]

8 million dollars

[stray horizon]

what are the prices now?

[limpid umbra]

overpriced

💀

[calm maple]

idk, some people complained in the feedback channel but I have zero clue if the prices they've screenshotted are high or low in their respective region

[stray horizon]

they've been $10 US since ive played, i just only try to get them on sale tho

[limpid umbra]

Yea same here,

[unborn dagger]

Yeah that's definitely not true and I play hunt on ps5

Even then console and pc hunt are widely different and should stay separated

[void lion]

bruh i wallbanged this dude through a thin wooden wall with an avtomat and got 3 hit markers, how does he not die???
i can wallbang kill people through the same wall with 2 mosin hits but not 3 hits with an avtomat, what is going on man.

[somber harbor]

mans spreading misinformation on the internet

console is basically just PC hunt with less framerate and hackers

duos gets mega sweaty with people crouch walking just waiting to get a good headshot from a bush but that's mostly on europe

[stray horizon]

just move to the US you'll get surprise headshot less (in the game not in real life lol)

[somber harbor]

it happens sometimes but it's far less common compared to europe servers

[knotty ore]

Good luck to them because I never stop moving/jumping in the open. If they can hit me they deserve the kill.

[civic flume]

Why is the Nitro Express damage so inconsistent?

[hasty mango]

I know they are still working and developing questline/summons. But working through the Stalker Beetle quests on the Billy Story questline are very upsetting. Most quest have several different ways to go about them. Using different guns that allow for different play styles. But get 50 damage with Stalker Beetles/Kill a Hunter with one, is very frustrating to attempt. At a higher skill level no one allows you to get more than the initial explosion off or allows for a rez kill. Its very limiting to try and complete. Hope for more open quests that are not so linear in options.

[royal grove]

Pop somebody getting resed

[dense schooner]

Big damage drop off

[civic flume]

From 5 ft?

[dense schooner]

You must’ve hit limbs then

There’s no “inconsistency”

[queen jungle]

I skipped killing hunters with stalker beetle. That missions is too difficult when they don't do enough damage.

Every other stalker beetle quest is doable, but you need to load up on them. A full inventory of beetles.

The next "hard" mission would be killing enemy stalker beetles. It's rare for me to see one these days when the questline are all but done.

[tribal wyvern]

The price being "incredibly overpriced" must be a steam bug no? Been like 9 euro the entire time.

Which is the same as the other ones

[royal horizon]

I think it's the way regionnal prices work

I have it at 10 bucks as well

[stray horizon]

just physically hit them with it in your hand is what I've heard

[worthy knoll]

I actually did it With voip.
A Team besieged us, we Traded a Few shots and proposed that everyone gets one token. They agreed.
Then i asked If they would help me With the summon by punching one With the Beetle, they agreed.

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An UI upgrade where you can adjust single UI elements in place.
The main problem right now is, you can only scale the whole UI down a bit in general but not single elements.
Furthermore the UI will scale to the middle of the screen if you scale it down, so the HUD will be smaller, but more in center of the screen.
If we players would have more adjustment possibilities in configuration our HUD in general, this would be awesome.

I play with the equipment bar always on, because I want to know what consumables I have left.
If the bar is not visible all time, I have to scroll with my mouse to see for a short time what my hunter is carrying.

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[royal grove]

Projection

[stray horizon]

i mean why u think i upvoted it

[queen jungle]

Is there a way to lock in US East ?
Players should have to play on servers they dont want to.

[karmic ivy]

yes
you can select only one region

After that if you get the wrong region it is only a bug and will be fixed soon.

[queen jungle]

ty yeah I already talked to someone about it. Seems like a bug, but luckily I'm within refund range still @karmic ivy

I thought it was deliberate to reduce queue times (which are super long for me)

[karmic ivy]

Good deal

It is not deliberate. Do you play is a small region?

[queen jungle]

I don't know. Is US East small? This is mostly a game for Russians and Euros right?

[karmic ivy]

no

[queen jungle]

maybe its just hard to find players as bad as me lol

[karmic ivy]

If you are new that could be why

the pool of new players is smaller than the pool of regulars

[spice topaz]

The new player "safety" in match making probably does it

[karmic ivy]

The only time I have trouble finding full matches is around 5am in the US.

and most of them are at least half matches, with an occasional 4 person match.

I find I like the variety, so it dosn't bother me. And I still find PvP because of how the game works.

But as I recall it was slower than usual this morning. Maybe there is something going on to distract people today?

[queen jungle]

Warzone 2.0

Every Battle Royale, Online FPS, and Third-person shooter, took a player count hit.

[cursive jewel]

Weird @karmic ivy , 95% of the time I die to someone from Korea, China, Australia or Russia and other close countries I can instantly go "Oh that guys definitely not from the US" and check their profile and prove it.

[unborn smelt]

you know checking a profile isn't solid proof ?
Sure nyou can set it to whatever you want

I had a friend who set his to chinese and russian for some time...

[cursive jewel]

Yes you CAN, but that doesn't mean everyone does

[unborn smelt]

but it means it's not actual proof

[cursive jewel]

Crazy

[unborn smelt]

indication at best

[cursive jewel]

I'm the sure litany of German comments / Russian / Asian comments are just fiction as well

[unborn gyro]

Ping lock should be a bit more strict. If you have a friend who is actually halfway around the world base the limit on the servers available to the pair/trio. The lag in this game is unreal at times. Problem solved. No one will continue to care about regions.

Or where people live, etc. etc.

[cursive jewel]

Prob got their buds to use google translate to make their location look more legit

[unborn gyro]

US West .. everyone from Oceania/Asia Pac gravitate there and the hit reg and delays in shots is sometimes crazy. Game doesn't have the polish it should have due to all these lax server rewind rules, hit reg, etc. There was a time when it was a bit of a meme to play with high ping. People argue back and forth if it's advantage or not but the server does funky things when dealing with high lag. It reaches a point where we have to accept that Hunt will never be as responsive as it should be.

[karmic ivy]

That has not been my experience and I play US West the most. I don't see the "funky things" you are describing.

One thing that drew me to Hunt was how good the gun play is. I find it strange that our two experiences are so different. Something must be wrong, but I don't think its the other players.

[cursive jewel]

You don't have my experience so your experience is invalid, nice argument

[main cradle]

I mean

If person A is playing and has issues, and person B is in the same area and doesn’t have issues

Then is it really the problem of the servers? Or is it just luck?

[trail carbon]

Well, a lot of people are having similar issues, so I'd doubt it to be just luck

Kinda hard to replicate problems that require combat with other people.

[unborn gyro]

Duncan based on what I've read from you every experience you have in Hunt is like true bliss at the highest levels of ecstasy. In all seriousness I'm glad your hunt experience is a positive one but that is not my experience. I do enjoy the gunplay but the server and responsiveness of the game is mediocre. This game could be so much better than it is -- and it's already a good game -- but it's what keeps Hunt from taking that next step IMO.

[trail carbon]

I have to agree with Nimbus here. As of late, Hunt feels almost unfinished in it's state of poor quality and server performance

[queen jungle]

How is Warzone 2.0 btw

[unborn gyro]

There was a time when certain popular streamers were playing serious high ping and it became a really huge joke. There is something "strange" that happens with the hitreg calculations. I can only draw assumptions based on observation but it seems the margin for error (the headshot window) widens the higher the ping. The server does all this rewind stuff and it's not precise -- it's a range.

So to mitigate the need for rewind things like ping lock get implemented. My assumption is smaller margin for error in the calculations and less server load. Thus the request for more strict ping limitations. I get that people want to play with friends. I don't want to hinder that but there is a fair amount of cheese that goes on in Hunt.

[main cradle]

While I don’t really get the blunt of the issues whenever I play, I can agree that hunt can and should improve the servers.

What I don’t agree with is how a chunk of people decide to use their feedback of these issues as a way to insult crytek, to scream that the game is dead, and etc. And even when someone points out a flaw in their statement, say that the clip they provided only shows them missing a shot, they’ll go and viciously defend their opinion and insult the other person.

I’m all for feedback, hell you can’t make a game like without input from the community.

But I’m just saying: insulting the devs ain’t gonna get them working quicker

[unborn gyro]

I assume there are constraints at the engine level. Not entirely sure CryEngine was built for online gameplay. (shrug) It can render near real-life type visuals but the reality is from the time where games were pushing the highest fidelity possible the current gaming population is entirely happy with things like minecraft, roblox, etc. It's a real shift from what CryEngine was built for. We don't need incredible visuals - we need responsive gameplay. /end ramble

[main cradle]

Tbh, even the roblox engine chugs

But honestly, it’s whatever atm. I’m gonna have some guy reply to my message saying how I’m wrong for. Idk

[unborn gyro]

Each server region is different. My assumption is that EU provides the superior Hunt experience given the locality of servers to players. Which is what drives a fair amount of the debate -- the various people playing this game do not experience Hunt in the same ways at a technical level. US West seems to have a disproportionate amount of players from outside the region than other locales. If you play in the evening I would suggest the split can be as high as 50/50 US to Asia/Oceania players.

[main cradle]

Yeah. Not all regions are equal. It sucks but, it’s how it is atm

Should it be improved, yeah

[unborn gyro]

Honestly if they implemented a US Central cluster I'd probably play that exclusively. My ping on US West is 5 ms but the hit marker is delayed based on the other player's ping as well so I end up mostly on US East where my ping is 80 ms -- typically better matches all around in terms of responsiveness. It shouldn't be that way.

[main cradle]

Tbh, I find it odd they don’t got a US Central

But eh

[karmic ivy]

Could you provide some explanation for how your hit markers are "delayed based on the other players ping"? I have never seen this argument supported by tests or demonstration. Has anyone made a video you can say represents your argument?

[queen jungle]

I have never been headshot so often instant from stupid ranges with cheap-ass weapons by some 24 hours old accounts like the last week... is there a new aimbot out?

[main cradle]

No, it’s just a Smurf account

Aimbots in hunt don’t really work. Nor exist if I’m right

[karmic ivy]

You are taking it a bit far there. I do think Hunt is the best multiplayer FPS sandbox game I have played. I don't know about all that other stuff.

[cursive jewel]

XD

[main cradle]

Like think about it, if they add an aimbot script to the hunt script, then really it’ll end up with them failing to reload

[cursive jewel]

Livin in 3 star must be the dream

[main cradle]

What?

[queen jungle]

I recently heard more then usual about redicolous kills by "smurf" accounts. aimbots do work in every game

[main cradle]

Dude, but that’s the thing. Was it even an aimbot?

[cursive jewel]

This guy wants you to think Crytek shits rainbows or somethin rofl

[main cradle]

No, I don’t. I’m just asking if there’s proof

[tender sphinx]

Huh? - There are a TON of people who cheat in this game... and your statement makes NO sense....

[cursive jewel]

Yes.

Literally google "hunt showdown aimbot" and people are advertising their own aimbots, and the links to their sites on youtube with video evidence of it working against players

I don't know what rock you're under but they most certainly exist and they are on hunt

[main cradle]

Wow, guess I’m wrong. As always

Guess me asking for proof is unexceptable. Along with joking about the reload bug

Anyway, I got better things to do. Toodles.

[cursive jewel]

You asked for proof, I suggested you go google it. Now you run because you realize there is proof

Nutty, GL

[main cradle]

Is there proof that aim bots exists. Yes

Is there proof the person in question died to someone using an aimbot?
No.

That’s all I’ll say. Anyway, toodles.

[cursive jewel]

Go do your important stuff big boy

[versed sandal]

You know what sounds important? Actually clipping if you suspect someone is using aimbot

[frosty garnet]

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Description: This will stop individuals from being afraid to help their teammates all because they're scared that their k/d will go down.```

[digital vessel]

No; no, we have to make K/D/A more important. In fact, make K/D/A limit your weapon choices. Make the sweats use only Springfield Strikers and unsilenced Nagants.

5.# K/D gets to use the Machete and the Derringer basic Bornheim.

[fresh anvil]

kinda based

[stray horizon]

three to four star is definitely the most balanced, five to six sounds shit y'all are worried about this meta with long ammo people actually just like use random guns in the lower Stars

[cursive jewel]

I'm using a vetterli base

Only long ammo I use is sparks, and the winfield is boss as fuck

[queen jungle]

I love 3-4 star, it's the most fun, most varied games.

[cursive jewel]

I'm currently at 6 star and holy hell do I wish I was still 3-4 star. Game was so much more fun then

[queen jungle]

Mosin is great, but to keep using it match after match

[cursive jewel]

Not really a big fan of the Mosin, I feel like if anything the vetterli / winfield are better especially with HV if you want the velocity

You almost never kill anyone in higher ratings without hitting a headshot either way so the only real difference ends up being headshot range and fire rate

There are far worse things than hunters t-posing in the menus they I hope they fix first lol

[tender sphinx]

Can someone explain... how the fuck, you INSTANTLY get burned out?

downed once, guy hits me with a lantern and i watch the rest of the bars just about instantly burn away

[chilly nova]

Time to stop people from deranking. Do something about it!

[ripe basalt]

@cursive jewel #feedback is not for bug reports. Use the correct channels for bug related issues

[cursive jewel]

Fixing bugs sounds like feedback I dunno

[ripe basalt]

Saying "there is a brand new bug. Here is what it is, fix it" is a cop-out for it to be feedback. It's a bug report and is treated as so. Please post it in the correct bug report channel for the platform you encountered it on

It's important that bugs are posted where the bug team can view them

[cursive jewel]

I don't see yall deleting all the people complaining about the breech load rifle bug

[ripe basalt]

Just because other posts haven't been removed yet has little to do with your brand new post that I just now deleted

Both had just happened

[cursive jewel]

Seems pretty identical to me but you the boss

[chilly nova]

Crazy how high latency players can just blast you without even turning the corner yet. I love that.

[cursive jewel]

inb4 "ping abuse doesn't exist"

[royal grove]

Clip or it didnt happen also wrong channel

[unborn dagger]

^

Every single time this happens

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Custom characters that function like legendary hunters but only with tier 1-2 clothes for balance. Pick the base character than ur clothes than ur name and title if you want one. Each item you add on could cost blood bonds.```

[fervent sedge]

Custom letendary hunters:
Custom characters that function like legendary hunters but only with tier 1-2 clothes for balance maybe. Pick the base character than ur clothes than ur name and title if you want one. Each item you add on could cost blood bonds.

[sand coral]

I wish Hunt Showdown devs broaden the ASIA SERVER, I am from INDIA and the lowest ping i can get is around 110.

[fathom geyser]

yes it sucks and then theres people who demand a ping limit of 100 because they dont understand how servers work and think ping abuse is the reason they suck at the game

truly sad

[stray horizon]

@iron trench I'm 3 stars and I buy the nitro occasionally it's super fun. don't make the game boring just because y'all want to balance it for your high star meta shit that's on you for being good at video games

[iron trench]

Every match is not fun man... every time i hear an Avto burst at distance i lose 1 year of life

[iron trench]

Yesterday... i stopped playing after a full trio using all avtos with quartermaster and dual spark pistols

[stray horizon]

no I hear you man but my point is that that's not at all what it's like in the lower star lobbies, you can't balance the game to the high tier meta I mean they're always going to do whatever broken bullshit they can no matter how unfun it is, people in three and four star take guns pretty well evenly spread out, don't punish us because kids with no life have to do everything they statistically can to win

like if it's not nitros and avtos y'all going to be talking about how they only ever use mosins and sit in the bush

[fathom geyser]

if you dont like hardcore meta sweatlords then why play in 6* elo? rank down to 4 or even just 5 and you wont have this problem at all.

the last time i saw an avto was weeks ago

[soft river]

@iron trench the problem comes in skins

[fathom geyser]

@rotund oasis love that suggestions. that would also fix my habit of accidentally using darksight and wasting a second lol

[rotund oasis]

Yeah. I got the thought yesterday when I got the first bounty and then wanted to find the second one.

[iron trench]

Make so the gun you find has the skin you selected previously

[cursive jewel]

Balancing a game around the lowest tier sounds like a pretty poor decision lol

[hot quail]

I am 5* have been consistently for like years now. There is an avto every other game.

[fathom geyser]

what region are you?

i suppose some regions are more competetive than others

europe here, its super chill

when i hear an avto, i go towards it in hopes of getting it lol

[hot quail]

I'm in europe and I wish I had that mentality but now if I hear avto I go for the other boss or just extract. Literally not fun coming up against it with a somewhat meme loadout.

The only downside to the gun is that it is expensive and is useless past 50m~ but most fights happen within that range in compounds. So a squad running 1 avto and some scoped weapons is impossible to stop

[valid mango]

always europe dies because they have the best servers

[somber harbor]

If you don't wanna see avtos move to console

Far less common there even in 6 star lobbies

We sinply vibe

[soft river]

i wish i could but my only console that can "run" hunt is an xbox one

that doesn't even work

[thorny siren]

@inland cloak Im like 90% sure thatll never happen, xbox and pc hunt would be miserable even if they got servers to merge, console hunt is a nightmare too, it always has different outdated problems, you might want to save for a pc or have buddys do it

[inland cloak]

I didn't mean console to PC, that would be miserable, just console to console so I can party with people who are already in the same servers as me, just different console platform.

[thorny siren]

ohh Yeah I dunno

my bad

[soft river]

wait so ps and xbox already can play with each other

but can't party with each other

[somber harbor]

yeah

the game doesn't have the functionality to let you team up with folk on a different console

it lacks an ingame invite function

I think you can maybe team up via randoms? Not too sure since I never do that though

[worldly pagoda]

why is the team coming out with new events which will create more issues and more likely worsen all the present issues instead of first fixing the large number of bugs currently hurting gameplay?

[cursive jewel]

Events = money and new skin sales, obviously.

[karmic ivy]

Because it is expected by their customers. Players want events, expect events. What would you expect a game company to do in that environment?
So they do both at the same time.

[worldly pagoda]

but theyre not doing both, there are bugs in the game that have been here for almost a year if not longer, people arent always able to reload their guns, the audio is declining, hell there are still people falling through the map which is an issue that should be corrected in the earliest stages of the game. of course the game needs to create revenue to survive, but if the customers have no faith in the quality of the product being delivered why would they put money into it? frustrated customers arent thrilled to give their money to someone or something they dont think will use it effectively or the way they want.

[royal grove]

@unborn gyro have you tried turning off trios

There's a button
To turn off trios

[unborn gyro]

I have played both but the most active queue is trios. There are not many random duos. The system intentionally allows people to rig the system in their favor so I'm not sure I would call it a matchmaker. Improvements should be made.

[royal grove]

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[karmic ivy]

They are demonstrably doing both. You read patch notes right? Do you watch the dev streams?

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[worldly pagoda]

indeed i do, in which they claim these thing are addressed but within a few minutes of gameplay players discovered that to be incorrect and they not only have not been fixed but that a new batch of issues have been found, few of which are ever corrected. just like the rising issue of hit registration getting worse and worse it is being ignored. the only response to this ive ever recieved was from a mod citing 5 year old data that no doubt became outdated the moment the information was gathered. not only do i listen and watch for the information they put out but i test it, watch other people test it, talk to players and review information and complaints put out here. i dont complain about these issues from a malicious stand point i do it because i truly admire the game and wish it to be better as i know it can be. however when devs or representatives say things like "thats too hard to fix" which was their response on a live stream to the left handed peak issue. my faith in them to put in the work to improve the product is quickly diminished

[karmic ivy]

Well if you won't take them at their word, I don't know what to tell you. They are not lying.

And it seems more likely that you get no response about your "hit registration getting worse and worse" because it is not actually getting worse, so there is nothing to respond to. Other than what they have said, that if you are having strange problems to "please" contact support so you can find out more about what the problem is.

On a related note, people often mistake hit reg. issues for bad shots. The best way to help, and they have said this too, is to clip it. I know its hard because it doesn't happen often. But if you can clip it, it is the most useful thing you can do, and will be a great help is fixing the last of the hit reg. issues.

[royal grove]

@somber harbor it's grammatically correct

[somber harbor]

may be grammatically correct but it just reads mad weird and no one really talks like that

[royal grove]

Nope

[worldly pagoda]

denying a problem doesnt make the problem go away, i have many clips and i have submitted many of them and no matter how clear the image it more often than not gets ignored or someone will just deny it thinking theyre doing the game a favor or because they personally havent noticed it, specifically i had a conversation with a mod about it whos only response was "you missed" despite the evidence before them, they even picked a frame short of when my shot was actually taken to try and prove their argument i even asked this mod if the community came together and agreed that they were wrong and i was right would they then directly inform a dev that an issue has been noticed, their response was "it doesnt matter what the community thinks, i know the truth" does that sound like someone you can trust to get things done right? simply scrolling through this discord can give you some idea of these issue not to mention all players who dont know this discord exists or dont have the means to record or just no longer care. whatever the issues being shown here are, need to be extrapolated to get some idea of just how many issue there truly are

[karmic ivy]

I don't think you understand how it works. If you submitted clips, the devs saw them. I am not sure what a mod has to do with it. I don't find it strange that they are willing to stand by their judgment. That is a good sign of being sure. Trust comes from experience, not sureness.

BTW who is denying a problem? I am unclear on that.

[worldly pagoda]

you think everything shown here is seen by a developer? you dont see an issue with someone acting only as a middle man to relay messages, saying that the problem doesnt exist and wont relay the message despite multiple accounts from players saying that it is indeed an issue?

[karmic ivy]

Yes, Ill wager most of them read this discord.

[worldly pagoda]

im not going to name names specifically as im sure it will get me banned or silenced, i cant even at everyone without that happening

[worldly pagoda]

ill take that wager, unless the mods are the devs themselves (which im sure they are not) even the mods who do respond to the lesser issues say "ill pass along this issue to a dev" which i only ever see one person doing

[karmic ivy]

BTW when I said if you submitted it the devs have seen it, I do mean by the proper channels. I still think most of the devs read this discord though.

[crystal plume]

"their response was "it doesnt matter what the community thinks, i know the truth"" Yeah sorry but I highly doubt this

[worldly pagoda]

then you would be incorrect

[crystal plume]

You have proof of it? Because it would be problematic for a moderator to behave like that

[worldly pagoda]

not unless the message archive goes back that far, if it doesnt then no i have no proof

[worldly pagoda]

@crystal plume @karmic ivy i went back and looked at the messages. forgive me i misquoted one of the mods. i said "if i held a poll and the majority said it was hit would you still say youre correct that it was a miss" to whch they replied "yes, because the peoples opinions dont trump factual proof"

[crystal plume]

Went back out of interest to check out the context as well, and yeah to me as well it looks like a miss

Shooting through the side of the hat

Them moving, very slowly at that since they are crouching, won't really matter at that distance with springfield's muzzle velocity

[worldly pagoda]

yeah thats the one, the front sight post is covering the back of the neck. also due to the slow velocity of the springfield and the direction the player was traveling this would be a hit, thus was the disagreement. just one of many examples

[worldly pagoda]

see what i mean

[queen jungle]

@unique osprey Not entirely sure what you refer to, textures and all graphics stuff are on your PC and need to be loaded from your HDD/SSD at the beginning. And how fast that goes depends entirely on your hardware.

[cursive jewel]

That 3rd one you definitely shot the pile of wood, HV ain't gonna pen that for jack

[worldly pagoda]

@cursive jewel are you sure? pause it at the begining to see where the log is with a clear background then again near the 6 second mark to see where his head is, you can see the brim of his hat leading into the log and i aim above that

[cursive jewel]

Looks like you shot the very top part of the log IMO. The 1st one is definitely BS though, the dude ran all the way into the wall so he couldn't go backwards, he had to walk into the bullet or go back left, which you aimed a little left of him anyways so it'd have hit. Plenty of dogshit hit reg in this game

Same for Vetterli lol, I've aimed at people who were literally afk and watched the bullet create a puff of smoke from the impact behind their player model

[worldly pagoda]

yup ive had it with the vetterli as well, most of the weapons actually, which is why i report it to try and get it looked into but it always seems to be ignored. like after all that conversation i had with duncan and diiba, as soon as those videos went up...radio silence. and it happens every time

[cursive jewel]

Everyone wants to talk and talk ask for proof, until you offer it

I've linked a dude literally spawning in, using dualy upper and killing the entire lobby at 500+ meters without missing but one or two shots, killing himself and then rinse and repeating to people wanting evidence that aimbot works in hunt showdown. Somehow immediately go silent

[worldly pagoda]

thats wild, you have a video of this and no one addressed it?

[cursive jewel]

He got banned thankfully

but the dude arguing no aimbot existed refused to respond after that

No idea why it took a video link to get it banned when the dude had to have received at least 5+ reports every match for every game he did it in, was the most egregious example of cheating I've ever seen in Hunt

[unborn smelt]

Hunt banns in waves

usually

[cursive jewel]

I am painfully aware, but the fact that it'd take over a week of that happening to punish someone is insane

[unborn smelt]

makes it harder for cheat developers to pinpoint what got a cheat detected

[cursive jewel]

I have a buddy who still refuses to play the game ever sinec that happened to us and it was months ago

And if i had to imagine, it was detected when people started reported him after hearing dualy uppercut at the opposite end of the map, and then they just start dying out of no where to headshot hits

[worldly pagoda]

the thing that gets me is people still think aimbot equals NEVER missing a shot. you can look up videos of people explaining it, you can filter it to only hit every second or third shot and only arms or legs ect. its not just headshots only

[elfin zephyr]

If game developers would implement hardware bans cheating would stop

[worldly pagoda]

we all know this to be true but that would hinder sales

[cursive jewel]

Hardware or just perm bans. The number of people that I see get banned, then I see them again on a brand new steam account level 0 with the EXACT same name is ridiculous

Then they just wait out the initial ban and do it again on their main

I'd give some examples but god forbid I say the name of obvious cheaters who have the vac bans to prove it

[worldly pagoda]

why perma ban someone from buying multiple copies

is the thought proccess

[cursive jewel]

The dualy upper cut guy had 7 steam accounts and each one even linked to his youtube where he advertised the hack he was using and how to install it etc etc xD YEt that's somehow not deserving of a perma idk

[rotund oasis]

Not really. There are still ways bypass hardware ID bans. There was a pretty famous cheater in apex who gave the devs headaches for months until they sued him.

[elfin zephyr]

If you dont permanently ban people you lose your player base and player base equals dlc sales. Most cheaters buy multiple copies while games are on sale

[cursive jewel]

Its not about removing them ALL, the goal is just to significantly reduce the number if possible, so just one did giving them a huge issue is a lot more preferred than the number currently

[rotund oasis]

Only thing to really make sure nobody can cheat would be a well designed, kernel level anticheat software, but that'd cause a lot of people to drop the game as seen with several other games before.

[worldly pagoda]

i think perma bans and hardware bans come with their own tpye of legal troubles as well, though im not sure...i heard its another headache in itself

[cursive jewel]

I'm not expecting 0 cheaters, just fewer. It'd be totally unrealistic to expect an online game with thousands of people to have none

[worldly pagoda]

agreed

[rotund oasis]

Yeah. I mean simply a system that flags people with a 10+ K/D so they are prioritized to be reviewed and banned would work. Maybe even give people back the hunter they lost when they got killed by a cheater.

[cursive jewel]

Hell I don't know if its a bug or an exploit or a cheat or what, but I've ran into 3 different people today who aren't affected by spam jumping / crouching slowing them down. They just run across fields jumping and crouching or whatever else as much as possible moving at full speed

Conveniently most of them are also killing people whilst jumping like a rabbit at at least 80+ meters. Fuck do I miss being 4 star, I'm at 6 and its just miserable 40% of the time

[worldly pagoda]

get those meme runs in to get your MMR down, system is a joke anyway. the gear youre running changes it

[cursive jewel]

I'm not even sweating good gear, I've ran nothing but iron sight vetterli FMJ today and a variety of pistols since I prestige the moment I hit level 100

Nor do I wanna just go around offing myself to play against worse people since its not fun for them in that case. I basically become the bully and that's not fun, being challenged is nice. Besides if I really wanted to drop my rating, just go to quickplay, let people kill you, suffer 0 KDA drop (since so many seem to fuckin care about it) and hey, you've lost two stars for free!

@fathom geyser I thought bomblance did shrapnel damage and bulwark only reduces explosive damage, same as it doesn't work against frag grenades

[fathom geyser]

sadly not

bulwark saves you from death, with half health to spare

its a joke

[cursive jewel]

Interesting, I tried to use the bomblance for my "Deal explosive damage" thingy, wasn't counting towards it so I figured it was purely shrapnel damage

[fathom geyser]

yeah because the devs dont know what the fuck theyre doing

[cursive jewel]

That is pretty depressing then, I also enjoy the meme of tripwires on barrels though so I already know the pain of how annoying bulwark is

[fathom geyser]

i tried that actually recently

[cursive jewel]

"Holy shit 30 games and someone finally ran into one! Oh... he had bulwark"

[fathom geyser]

still got oneshot by a barrel

even with bulwark

[cursive jewel]

I've lived with bulwark before on red barrels, idk

[fathom geyser]

not sure if i just got unlucky or what happebed

welp

hunt showdown has 0 flaws so clearly it mustve been my mistake then

:)

[cursive jewel]

Tragic since I literally can't enjoy any other shooter at this point. Hunt is the absolute best shooter I've played in at least a decade, but its plagued by the absolute stupidest shit and inconsistencies t-t

You'd think them being German they'd strive for PERFECTION

[fathom geyser]

ikr lmao

and same

i dislike shooters

hunt has been the only ever exception

sad to see these gamebreaking bugs and this god awful balancing and game performance ruining it for me time and time again

[steel dawn]

Bruh this is the reason im on mw2, Insurgency and Splitgate when the bugs get too much. They work soooooo well

[soft river]

there are only 2 shooters that i played because i wanted to play the game specifically

and not because of friends

hunt and a game on roblox when i was like 12

i don't know if its a coincidence that both aren't hitscan

or are modern day shooters

[worthy knoll]

Being German i can Tell you that this is Just Not the Case anymore.
Whenever Somebody tells you that German trains are punctual I laugh, because Just the Idea of one snowflake makes trains basically Disappear from Plans.

[steel dawn]

It mad complaining about a bug and then in a few days it’s just a memory and something the community laughs about not something they learn to deal with lol

[karmic ivy]

They would do the most good in a bug report, I don't know why you expect a reply from me. I am sure crytek can judge things like that better than I.

[steel dawn]

But imagine if there were no cheaters?! Who could we blame things on? I get wanting to clean up house but think of what we’d lose. It’s a perfect catch-all excuse that can apply to any game at any time. You always want at least a few cheaters so you can’t be bad at the game (not loads but like 4 or 5) have cake and eat too

I play on console sadly. So I can only claim they were using Cronus on something

[winter shard]

someone can tell me why they didnt fix this ammo bug alrdy?

0/7 and then PUFF 0/0

[soft river]

@pulsar quest too powerful

[elfin zephyr]

Cronus is fairly common in 6 star lobbies

[pulsar quest]

I think there’s potential in the idea, the trick would be execution and refinement.

I’m assuming this is in regards to the Gun Gas or whatever.

[worldly pagoda]

@karmic ivy i dont expect anything from you, we engaged in the conversation that you sought to disprove yet when the topic turned against both you and the mod you both went radio silent is all i was referring to, which i said conveniently happens every time i submit a report to bug-report-live-pc. my point being everyone is so quick to disprove or discredit these reports but whenever there is clear footage no one wants to acknowledge the issue when its right in front of them

[karmic ivy]

The conversation we started was about if or not crytek was fixing bugs and doing events. I maintained they do both. you disagreed. I don't know why you bring up hit reg videos and claim I "went radio silent".

All I have to say about it is if you submitted the clips, they have been seen by the devs.

[worldly pagoda]

it was relevant to the conversation we were having, you said people often claim bad hit reg when in reality theyre mistaken. which then shortly after a mod chimed and led into the rest of the conversation. i dropped your name because of that statement, as i said you gave your opinion on something but when faced with footage you cant disprove neither of you had anything to say.

[karmic ivy]

I did say people often think a miss is bad hit reg. I did not claim to be a good judge of it. The mods are pretty good though. they get a lot of practice.
So again I maintain. I am confused what this has to do with me?

[worldly pagoda]

ultimately it has nothing to do with you, as i said it was part of the conversation we were having and your position on the matter is what i was referring to

[karmic ivy]

you also claimed when faced with the footage I had nothing to say... as if I should have something to say... why do you think that?

[worldly pagoda]

i would further argue the validity of your statement on how good the mods are, there have literally been suggestions in the suggestions-ideas tab calling to replace some if not all of them for their lack of attendance and quality of work. i cant really weigh in on this topic myself other than my personal experience with maybe 2 of them

[karmic ivy]

in fact, I only mentioned it to point out you should submit clips, as you have. I have no input on your clips.

[worldly pagoda]

again, because we were discussing the matter. you said more often then not people are mistaken but when i put forth evidence you had no reply. i thought we were still engaged in this topic but it seems now youre saying you were merely done with the conversation

[karmic ivy]

Look above ^

[worldly pagoda]

could you be more specific

[karmic ivy]

^

[worldly pagoda]

i was in the middle of typing when you sent that. i was merely finishing my point

[fathom geyser]

@fervent sedge can you fucking stop spamming your damn suggestion? you posted it like 4 times already

nobody cares

[fervent sedge]

just got shot in the toes with a terminus and it 1 shotted me from full health and my buddy got killed through thoes thick palets by the same guy what and who and how the hell

[fervent sedge]

I'm passionate about it being added possibly it's a cool idea

[royal grove]

It's not gonna get added overnight, chill out

[fathom geyser]

its spamming and its annoying.

[fervent sedge]

Doea it @ you every time?

[pulsar quest]

Even if it doesn’t, man, it’s a terrific way to sour an idea. Just, chill, and let it ride. 😕

[fervent sedge]

I was just asking but thank you I'll quit it

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[queen jungle]

@fervent sedge Please make sure to read the channel-specific rules in #game-ideas and do not repeatedly post the same suggestion.

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or even better, we could find trinkets like pocket watches and other items to sell in a scavenger's market. there could even be missions given by civilians to go in and recover specials items like a photo of family members. this could even go as far as killing  specific mob to "put them out of their misery"```

[burnt mulch]

@keen oak Nobody’s misinformed about ads’ing with shotguns. It doesn’t do anything to the spread. All it does is maybe help you aim better if you need a tighter point of reference.

If you can aim centered with the wide crosshair, ADS doesn’t do anything.

@arctic hound they did actually try adding different voices, it wasn’t received well since those audio cues are important for gameplay.
also, the reason you can’t sell looted guns is because Crytek wants the focus to be to get the bounty. If people hunted people with avtos, that dilutes the objective.

[arctic hound]

@burnt mulch I didn't know that they did try adding more voices. I know how important they are in this game but I can't understand how people can't memories 5-6 different voices for the same action. Or what is the reason for negative feedback about it? I can understand Crytek points for the second suggestion

[burnt mulch]

having different voices could make it easier or harder to hear audio cues. hell, I already think it’s easier to hear female hunters.

[arctic hound]

fair

I understand your point

[burnt mulch]

i think you could get it “close enough”, especially since we have visual variation in hunters (the camouflage argument) but I’m just trying to give some context

[arctic hound]

I still think it would be cool to have it even if it's more "unbalanced" then

😄

[burnt mulch]

they couldn’t be that much different though so shrugs

[arctic hound]

hmmm... I can't disagree with you. I should test the the game with it to tell is it better or not for me. So I think it would be cool

but if not Hunt is still a great game

[keen oak]

Except the common premise was that it doesnt matter if you ads or not yet the reticle does not reflect the spread - that is the point. Question is who started spreading this misinformation.

[burnt mulch]

it doesnt matter if you ads or not.

the spread is unaffected.

[keen oak]

I am aware of that

[burnt mulch]

so wheres the misinformation

[keen oak]

You either derail what I said on purpose or miss my point entirely. I dont have time for endless back n forth. Watch the video its all there.

[burnt mulch]

bruh

you said “ads doesnt matter unless you have slugs” was a lie

its literally not a lie unless you completely misunderstood what was being said

don’t just assume I haven’t watched the video, it says “shotguns have a tighter spread than we thought”

ads still has no effect on the spread

[keen oak]

Whatever floats your boat man, watch the video and work on your reading comprehension

Enjoy your day

[burnt mulch]

please show me the part of the video that shows “ads doesnt matter unless you have slugs” is a lie.

if you’re gonna try to make up a grand conspiracy that someone lied to you about something, maybe get your facts straight lol

[keen oak]

Absolutely senpai. Make sure to work on that reading comprehension.

[burnt mulch]

sorry sir, where did i mess up my reading comprehension then

you’re talking about two separate things.

1. the crosshair doesnt match the spread pattern well.
2. someone lied to you that ads doesnt matter.

1 is true, 2 is wrong.

people saying “ads doesnt matter” are saying that ads does not affect the spread of the shotgun. If you thought they were saying anything else, then you’re the one that needs to work on reading comprehension.

[astral root]

When the convo matters less than the ads

[keen oak]

Absolutely sir

[burnt mulch]

ok dude

its not in the video.

[normal horizon]

I'm confused what ADS has to do with the video posted

[burnt mulch]

it doesn’t. he just thinks hes being lied to somehow.

[normal horizon]

Aiming down sights does not change anything about the spread and the video is about the spread relative to the reticle

[worthy knoll]

@serene charm agree half. Scottfield has enough Variante but Pax and LeMat would be cool

[stray horizon]

I agree that's super lame they should try it again, hasn't been a thing since I played it

I mean it's no different than the fact that there are people with different colors and stuff

you never going to get around the fact that some people are just easier to see

[arctic hound]

Absolutely

Also Hunt isn't a super competitive game for me personally. I'm sure some people take it very seriously but I play it because of fun nothing more

So even if I could hear some sounds better than others I wouldn't care 😄

I think also for example in one match my character has a sound which you can hear better than probably in some of the future matches I will hear someone else better

Frag arrows and explosive crossbow ruins the game much much more for me tbh

[sharp arrow]

I've seen frag arrows maybe once every thirty or forty matches.

[unborn dagger]

I don't think it should be a competitive game tbh.

[arctic hound]

Indeed

[fervent sedge]

alrighty

[scarlet plank]

I think the train idea is nice but the servers and engine are on the edge just as is, a train would destroy the game.

[still basin]

@normal horizon check out the board game shadows of brimstone. Western horror as well. Also if I win the lotto ill be donating a large sum to you guys on the condition a hunt mmo is made.

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[half stag]

@arctic hound there's an option for that already ingame (I believe it is in the games or hud tab, near the bottom)

[arctic hound]

Oh thanks I didn't find it

[tired schooner]

Dear god please make the Daughter of Decay more visible. I really do think she's as bad if not worse than cain ever was

[pulsar quest]

What’s wrong with Cain? Ain’t he the guy with all the skulls on him?

[queen jungle]

Some people used to complain about Cain not being well-visible in some environments of the maps.

[tired schooner]

Cain used to be nearly impossible to see. They made him brighter in on update because he was invisible. Like trying to see a headsman at night but worse. I'd argue the daughter is just as bad now

[somber harbor]

I feel like this is an issue with a lot of hunters, many of them lack any form of contrast in their dress which makes seeing them in a good few environments very difficult

tier 1 hunters are always visible due to how much contrast is on their bodies, but a lot of legendaries recently have been in dark clothes with hoods or masks obscuring their faces

reptillian is p much the one colour, prodigal daughter is various shades of dark blues which makes her really easy to hide in dark areas, the reaper is similar to prodigal, cain was able to blend into literally anything and has the skulls on his back giving him a different silhouette to everyone else, daughter of decay is literally covered in dead plants allowing her to blend into earthy tones

headsmen is literally just a dude in a big fuckin dark grey cloak and his description actually mentions it is so he can hide better

and you can see this a lot in game, lots of people will only bring legendaries that have the potential to just blend into the ingame environments which is agonising

[worthy knoll]

The hoods and masks are Just so crytek does Not have to Design unique faces. Glasses too.

And i agree, i Just feel to get better Results when I Play as a Cain, Felis, etc. Instead of the (IMO) Redshirt.

And in Turn crytek Designs those Hunters because they know they will sell

[somber harbor]

yeah the selling point of camo skins is definitely a motivator for them, it's exceptionally rare to see skins like sgt. bridgewater, witch hunter, the kid, sofia, or gunslinger because they just don't blend in as well

but even at that there's examples of skins that have their face obscured that don't blend in much, like the turncoat, one of the best looking dlcs they've made, or the ronin, and the phantom

[tired schooner]

I play turncoat and gunslinger because i like the look. I definitely feel like I get killed more often than when i play wolfs howl or headsman. It’s frankly so dumb that i can be in the same room as someone but they blend in so well that i just get instant killed. I’m not a bad player either i’m a five star who’s even touched six. Approaching 2k hours. When skill is replaced by something, it pisses people off. There’s a reason this keep coming up and why things like getting hesdshot kill with dualie/chain pistol fanning feels less satisfying than pistols and rifles. Any game is most fun when you feel you earned your win and not win or lose due to something like a damned skin blending in with 80% of the map

[somber harbor]

I don't mind dualies or chain pistol fanning all too much just because I've experienced how badly they can go myself, pure random chance, but skins you have a complete choice in bringing and it feels cheap to die to someone who just brought in a skin that has more natural camo than yours

it's different if it's a tier 3 ghillie hunter because those cost a substantial amount of hunt bucks to buy

but there's barely any risk to buying a prodigal daughter or headsman

you might get a few shit traits but meh you can work around them

only time recently I've seen fanning as annoying was when a dude hit 4 shots with uppercut fanning on me and my mate consecutively

[elfin zephyr]

Sofia is the skin i pick most, if you push and dont camp what skin you use if fairly irrelevant. Most bush rats exclusively play skins like felis, cain ect

[somber harbor]

yeah sadly there's nothing to discourage bush ratting it out

got to the point where I just pull out of boss lair when I banish lol

even then sometimes people are so dedicated to hard camp the lair that they'll just never peek

[stray horizon]

I play witch hunter cuz she's baller and I ain't no bitch

[elfin zephyr]

A lot of the time i leave compound after banish as a look out. That way if a team pushes up and engages my team in compound, i start shoot them in the back

[stray horizon]

I hope they can see me, it's the last thing they're going to see

[somber harbor]

felt that

stand out skins are the hardest flex on enemy players

red shirt players always get mad respect for playing him even if I kill them

[stray horizon]

oh fo sho

oh my God or anyone who plays the chicks with the giant wide brim hats

[somber harbor]

the big brim hat girls are some of the best skins in the game tbh

llorona, sofia, gunslinger

the holiest of trios

[stray horizon]

oh they look dope af

I would say liona's heir is definitely the most visible skin in the game even more than redshirt so easily the biggest flex

[somber harbor]

so sad that they never pop up ingame

I feel like they'd at least see some more play if the devs removed the skirt from the first person pov like they did with mama maye and concubine

such a shame as well too because I feel like the more cowboy/big hat skins fit with the games aesthetic and setting so much better than the constant hooded dudes

bone doctor fits in well because of his lore, the rest are all like "they like to kill" which ain't interesting at all

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[stray horizon]

oh for sure, they're very gunslingery they need to make more skins like that

[balmy sparrow]

@subtle elbow
Bot is bullying people in suggestions by not giving them emotes

Again

[subtle elbow]

I'll forward it along 👍

[balmy sparrow]

Don't, just react to the unemoted suggestion with the 👍👎🤔

It's a known issue and according to my experience that's how it's supposed to be dealt with

[balmy sparrow]

@sonic goblet can you react?

[sonic goblet]

like, add reacts to a suggestion?

cuz which one

[fervent sedge]

mine i suppose

[royal horizon]

@mint sonnet They need to change this ASAP. Prestiging is really annoying otherwise, and making weapons XP in Quickplay is just not doable

[balmy sparrow]

Thanks daggy dag

[wanton crest]

why is trading so bad right now? its been happening alot today that when i shoot someone and see them fall to the ground dead the gun that they had still goes off half a second later killing me

[tight delta]

Now, when compared to few months ago, or over a year ago?

Not sure if there has been any changes to the trade system after it was changed to the current iteration in 2021 June.

After which you started seeing trades at all. Including the most belowed and prevalent close-range trades

[karmic ivy]

Latency, it is a variable, not always the same.

and lag cheats

[lean estuary]

Am I the only one that feels like it’s the reverse? A lot of people see the revolvers and leverguns and say OH YEAH COWBOyS…I know everyone likes ‘dark west’ aesthetic, but…Hunt has always felt more like, knee deep in stinking mud, 110% humidity, dripping sweat, sitting in a cloud of mosquitos - not really wool hats and dusters.

(And it’s about 15-20 years past peak Wild West)

I’m surprised you don’t see more hunters with sleeveless outfits

[dense schooner]

#game-ideas message

Sorry but this is not warzone man.

[lean estuary]

Could be interesting if you traded some stamina capacity or top speed for some armor…doesn’t seem like something most people would use though

[iron trench]

@valid mangoI was worried years ago about them putting the Mosin in a Wild Western game, now i'm worried about Cowboys using Springfield Krags from 1892 and now you're telling them to use ballistic vests... in 2024 Hunt Showdown is going to change the name to Battlefield.

[lean estuary]

1895?

[valid mango]

if they are adding drones to the game why can't they add vests? at least that can help balance the weapons 🙂 hunt turned into battlefield anyway

[lean estuary]

it’s closer to Gilded Age transitioning into Progressive Era…less Wild West, as much as people want it

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as I said the plan will be not to kill on contact the enemy but to eat their meds fast as possible that's creating an uncomfortable environment for the enemy to sit inside constantly peeking you```

[valid mango]

most players die after 1-2 shots from a shotgun or a rifle with a vest could be balanced

crytek only balances weapons by increasing the price and that doesn't help at all only makes it harder for people what they prestige

Those who don't prestige don't even feel it because they have $100k

[crystal plume]

[dense schooner]

Dying in 1-2 shots is part of what makes hunt hunt.

Adding a vest would completely change the game and weapon balancing

[knotty ore]

I don't understand all the complaints about flash. People are just mad they can't permanently hold a corner. Flash works as intended, its balanced.

[fathom geyser]

who the fuck recommended a bullet proof vest

and said "it would balance all weapons in the game"

what drugs did you take

i want some

[pulsar quest]

Ya reckon the mods get tired of all our suggestions? Or are they happy to get so much interaction and discourse about a game people are passionate about?

[worldly pagoda]

how come I can change my characters movement direction mid air?

[unborn dagger]

Cause it's a game?

It's like asking why there's pop in in a video game.

[worldly pagoda]

pop? i meant was it a creative choice or kind of an oversight?

[unborn dagger]

Jumping isn't important in this game so it's neither.

[pulsar quest]

I figure it’s just a quirk of how the game’s movement system functions. Neither a creative choice or an oversight; it’s just how it works out.

[worldly pagoda]

@unborn dagger do you play the game?

have you never seen how much people jump and move around, why do you say jumping isnt important?

[unborn dagger]

I have a thousand hours into the game dude, jumping is more dangerous than strafing back and forth.

[lean estuary]

Oh you guys don’t know about the dark-sight jets?

Little black magic boosters that push you around

Thousand hours in I’m surprised that’s not known

[worldly pagoda]

@unborn dagger so is it dangerous or is it not important?

[lean estuary]

If you jump off the Lighthouse outside the Iron Works and boost right you can make it all the way to the bell tower at Arden Parish

[pulsar quest]

I’ve seen videos of it, he’s telling the truth.

[lean estuary]

@queen jungle I like your sand bag idea…I feel like a little pouch of sand wouldn’t be enough for a fire though..I had a similar idea, but it was to have buckets of sand around the compounds that you can pick up and use to smother fires.

[queen jungle]

I personally wouldn’t care but easy fix is make it take like 6 seconds to do (a lot of sand.)

[wintry comet]

@arctic hound i will die on the hill that the Black Market should have been a way to sell Contraband weapons for 25% of the Hunt Dollar value, or maybe 1-2 BB if it's over a certain value like an Avto, Mosin Sniper, Nitro, etc

[royal horizon]

that would certainly be interesting

[wintry comet]

will post that as a suggestion after my suggestion cooldown timer runs out

just posted a different suggestion that's been driving me nuts over why it hasn't been implemented yet, and would have the added bonus of making a bunch of suits happy as well

[royal horizon]

They definetly need to make contraband, or at least "vanilla" weapons worth someting. You're putting yourself at an active disadvantage by wanting to use skins for weapons. Unlike with legendary hunters, where you get free traits for using them (and buying them for 200$).

How many times have I recieved an expensive weapon from a quest or a summon, and I was forced to use the dirty vanilla version, because if I wanted the shiny legendary gun (that I spent real money on) I needed to buy a whole new one.

If they don't want us selling contraband, then they need to at least let us skin vanilla weapons

@wintry comet That would act as both a viable monetisation strategy for Crytek, a use for Questlines, and eliminate nearly all FOMO the game might have had.

Sure, some people will hate the idea, because it renders the skins and legendaries not "exclusive" anymore, but I guess these questlines would still come out a little later after the event, so they'll stay "exclusive" for a moment

[wintry comet]

for that middle part, do you mean if you got a vanilla Mosin from a Summon, you want to be able to "upgrade" the "Reward (aka Contraband) Vanilla Mosin" to a "Wormwood" instead of needing to discard (for no benefit whatsoever) a perfectly good, but Contraband, Vanilla Mosin and then buy a Wormwood?

[arctic hound]

I had a suggestion for new voices and it had 35 likes or something now it's only 1 like from the bot also dislikes are gone and before my suggestion and after my suggestion there is a few other where I know they were liked or disliked a few times and it's all 1 1 1 now

Is this a bug or something? Or just everyone removed the reaction?

[arctic hound]

Absolutely. I didn't write in my suggestion but I don't want to sell it for full price. But even a few bucks would be great

[royal horizon]

I don't think rewards count as contraband (you can sell them for half price like any non contraband item) but I would like to be able to "select" a skin for a non-skinned weapon, like in any game with skins or cosmetics without having to spend extra in-game money to do so

[arctic hound]

Indeed

It is a very weird concept imo

[royal horizon]

I get that it's for the purpose of having true "unique" weapons in-lore. But common, they're skins, everybody uses them. It would also take a lot of the clutter out of the already wonky UI, since now you don't have 60 different skinned Mosins, all with different levels of dirt on them.

[royal horizon]

I don't think they'll ever let us sell contraband for as much as normal guns (and that's not what i'm asking) but they should at least let us either stockpile it, or sell it for a little something. Because it's becoming so annoying managing your inventory when you can't unequip something because it'll get voided. I found a Nitro in the wild once and I almost nuked it because I already had two other Nitros I looted off of people

[paper edge]

add to the game?

[ancient mountain]

It'd have to be a one/shot up close

[digital vessel]

If you take out Dragonbreath ammo then people will realize how powerful the Starshell is

[ancient mountain]

May the stars hell meta reign supreme

[limpid umbra]

@pulsar quest by your silver bullet logic, the bullet should do the same to hunters by their bullet caliber

It does not make sense physically, are you saying that the silver bullets should only be restricted to small ammo types?

Im just trying to understand a bit better

[hoary kelp]

Doesnt the nitro already 4 tap the butcher?

[knotty ore]

They don't actually implement any suggestions outside something super easy to implement so all of this is just placebo for you to feel better about a game in a poor state.

Like, no matter how much we complain about bad servers, they won't get new servers...

[limpid umbra]

Attitude like that is no way to make change

[knotty ore]

My attitude is completely irrelevant.

[limpid umbra]

Nope

[knotty ore]

My attitude comes from a poor state of the game.

[limpid umbra]

You gotta believe

Believe in santa

https://tenor.com/view/santa-santa-claus-papa-noel-twerk-twerking-gif-7219802

[knotty ore]

Attitude like this is why they won't fix anything.

So, thanks.

[limpid umbra]

I dont think so lmao

They are not looking at you or me and giving a shit

[knotty ore]

Lol, we've come full circle to my original point, thanks for playing.

[limpid umbra]

Nope

Gotta believe in santa you fool

Thanks for playing 🤓

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Tittle: Petroleum or Oil Bottles

Self described, a two item tool that allows you to make lines or areas cover in oil or petroleum that can ignited! Allows for tactical covers and passage blockages.```

[dim heron]

Title

it's 1 T

Don't Tag CMs if they're not currently active please

[foggy vault]

Thanks, I didnt catch the misspelling. Also he is active according to Discord. He has a green light next to his name. Thank you either way.

[pulsar quest]

Well ain’t you a rainy cloud. 😕

[pulsar quest]

I’ll admit, I didn’t think it through terribly well. What I want is to make these guns into specialized PvE weapons, rather than high-tier PvE and PvP weapons.

The initial logic was some kind of magic bullet. Through some ritual or dark magic, this small piece of metal exists in both our reality and whatever’s going on with Dark Sight—a bullet that exists in two planes at once, with the majority of its PvE damage coming from its connection to the spiritual world.
The small ammo idea was just, getting shot would still hurt, but I don’t want it to be lethal like it’d be against PvE enemies.

I’m not saying it should be analogous to short ammo, but considering the average boss lair, I think a reduction in range to close-quarters ranges would be good. I want it to be a sacrifice to bring it along, something you need to prepare and build around.

[crystal plume]

Yeah let's ignore the multitude of weapons that have been added as community requests, reconnect getting added even though there were no plans of adding that functionality originally and which also was a massive community request, darksight boost visuals essentially coming from a concept suggestion for another mechanic etc.

They definitely only implement the "easy" things from suggestions

[pulsar quest]

[royal grove]

[still basin]

Every game has issues especially non single player games lmao. Please point the way to the perfect for the rest of us please. Cant wait to see it.

[pulsar quest]

https://tenor.com/view/katy-perry-katy-lantern-keysersoze-light-gif-5959410

I'm looking for a reasonable man!

[royal grove]

Hi

I am also diogenes

[pulsar quest]

Barrel-Buddy! 😄

[knotty ore]

Valorant hasn't had any server issues since launch. Same with Overwatch. There have been minor issues here and there, but they were resolved same day. Before you huff and puff and try to mental gymnastics out of it, most shooters with the exception of maybe Apex have had good server infrastructure. I've never seen 5 second trade windows outside of Hunt.

The company needs to come out and say how much they need to make from DLCs to improve server infrastructure. We'll make it happen.

[limpid umbra]

Valorant 💀💀💀

[knotty ore]

Vals 128 tickrate servers are a buttery smooth dream.

[limpid umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dont-care-didnt-ask-didnt-ask-i-didnt-ask-gif-25429803

[tight delta]

I dislike Hunt Showdown trades myself, but I don't think they could be attributed to the tickrate. Which, at least according to some people who ran tests a couple of years ago, isn't as bad as you would think.

[main cradle]

Tbh, trades themselves aren’t bad, but the delay at some points do be wacky

[tight delta]

Hmm. And when I try to dig around for proof for my claim, I find a contradictory finding 😄

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/szn5cp/analyzing_server_performance_and_tickrate_more/

[limpid umbra]

I get super pissed at it, then after a few i just ready up for the next match

[tight delta]

Yeah, it is what it is. It's something I criticize sometimes, because it just feels off.

We've developed a sense to predict trades in our friend group, hehe.

[limpid umbra]

It certainly takes away from the fun, i would rather die to anything else than a really shitty trade

[tight delta]

It's always those fast-paced shotgun and melee pushes.

[limpid umbra]

Melee does tend to have the highest window

[knotty ore]

30 tick is very low which is why you get bad server performance in form of trades and getting killed behind hard cover. As well as poor registration which is a whole lot worse after recent patch.

[limpid umbra]

Last i checked

[main cradle]

Tbh, The clips of the trades people complain about. I find them funny

[limpid umbra]

they do be

[main cradle]

Like I’ve dealt with trades

[tight delta]

There was especially delayed trade video that gained a ton of traction on reddit a week or two ago 😄

The one where someone gets stabbed by a bomblance.

[main cradle]

But it’s like

I killed them. And I died. It’s a win win

[main cradle]

With the streamer?

Yeah that’s an old clip

[limpid umbra]

I had a really bad one where a dude screwed me up 2 seconds after i stabbed him with my martini

[main cradle]

Like, years old

[knotty ore]

What gets frustrating is when you shoot someone not moving and you see the bullet pass through his body and land behind him because he turned, but servers didn't keep up with data.

[main cradle]

But people assumed it was like a recent clip

[limpid umbra]

You cant see the bullets

[tight delta]

Not exactly sure, the dudes were in the Testimonial Church

[main cradle]

Never seen that one

[limpid umbra]

At least i dont see them

I only see fire bullets

[knotty ore]

You can see bullet impact.

[limpid umbra]

I see dead people

[main cradle]

But there was one clip that was old and everyone assumed it was recent

[tight delta]

No, you were right, it's the old clip. Found the thread again 😄

[main cradle]

And it was a bomblance desth

[tight delta]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HuntShowdown/comments/yu80e2/this_is_arguably_the_worst_trade_in_hunt_showdown/

[main cradle]

Lol

[knotty ore]

Trade windows get crazier when people play from another region.

[main cradle]

YEAH ITS THAT ONE

THATS THE ONE THAT PEOPLE THINK IS RECENT

[tight delta]

I completely misremembered it, my bad 🙂

[main cradle]

Lol it chill

[knotty ore]

I've had similar trades within the last month.

Maybe not quiet that long, but close.

Usually boxboxes from China

[tight delta]

What has been interesting is that when I started looking into some of the server issues some peeps are having in EU, I found out that a lot of them have nothing to do with LeaseWeb, but rather some other network some German ISPs route their traffic through trying to reach Hunt's servers.

[main cradle]

So

So you’re telling me that

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[main cradle]

Leaseweb isn’t the total issue?

[tight delta]

Yeah

[main cradle]

Has Reddit bean lying????!?!??!?

[tight delta]

Unintentionally, most likely 😄 I'm sure LeaseWeb has had a lot of issues in the past, especially around the event times. But so too have the fine folk over at Tata Communications Inc.

I swear, it's almost always the exact same router that introduces high latency and packet loss when it's used to route data towards LeaseWeb's Hunt servers.

if-ae-54-2.tcore1.fr0-frankfurt.as6453.net (195.219.219.72) crops up in a significant amount of traces people have been running to test their connectivity whenever troubleshooting Hunt ping and packet loss issues.

Telekom seems to prefer following route to reach Hunt servers: AS3320 (Telekom) -> AS6453 (Tata) -> AS28753 (LeaseWeb)

Not much to add to this. Just an interesting observation 😎

[normal horizon]

When I ping the servers that have the latency issue with Vodafone there is no increase in latency which is what I don't understand

[tight delta]

It seems Tata (AS6453) doesn't peer with any of Vodafone's networks, so the traffic gets routed through something else. Most likely though Akamai Technologies Inc (AS32787) or GTT Communications Inc. (AS3257), as these networks are between LeaseWeb (AS28753) and Vodafone Group PLC (AS1273).

Though, Vodafone Group PLC (AS1273) does peer with Tata (AS6453). How confusing. Still seems that whenever you ping / play on the game servers, your connection gets routed through networks that are not having issues.

[tight delta]

You can find out some information about the route your traffic gets sent through if you run traceroute utility towards the game server, and use a tool like https://who.is/ to find out public information associated with the IP addresses along the path.

Tracing route to ded116-lv-lw-eu.huntshowdown.com [178.162.217.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
  2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
  3    11 ms     *       10 ms  XXXXXXXXXX [XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX]
  4    12 ms    12 ms    14 ms  XXXXXXXXXX [XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX]
  5    12 ms    11 ms    12 ms  XXXXXXXXXX [XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX]
  6    17 ms    20 ms    17 ms  XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
  7    16 ms    14 ms    14 ms  XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
  8    15 ms    17 ms    16 ms  be2760.ccr22.sto03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.57.101]
  9    26 ms    27 ms    32 ms  be2557.rcr21.cph01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.61.241]
 10    31 ms    31 ms    32 ms  be2504.ccr42.ham01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.61.229]
 11    39 ms    38 ms    40 ms  be2798.ccr42.fra03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.58.229]
 12    41 ms    39 ms    39 ms  be2846.rcr22.fra06.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.37.30]
 13    40 ms    39 ms    39 ms  be2844.agr21.fra06.atlas.cogentco.com [130.117.0.30]
 14    41 ms    41 ms    39 ms  be3168.nr21.b015759-0.fra06.atlas.cogentco.com [154.25.14.82]
 15    49 ms    42 ms    42 ms  149.14.68.70
 16    40 ms    39 ms    39 ms  ae-1001.br01.fra-01.de.leaseweb.net [212.95.37.194]
 17    41 ms    48 ms    41 ms  po-1.ce01.fra-01.de.leaseweb.net [212.95.37.3]
 18    39 ms    39 ms    39 ms  ded116-lv-lw-eu.huntshowdown.com [178.162.217.65]

Trace complete.

According to this, my local ISP hands my traffic to Cogent Communications (AS174), which hands it to LeaseWeb (AS28753), who are hosting the game server ded116-lv-lw-eu.huntshowdown.com [178.162.217.65].

So the path looks something like this: Local ISP -> AS174 (Cogent) -> AS28753 (LeaseWeb)

[royal grove]

...?

nice

[tight delta]

Better not discuss leeks here - Results in a swift banhammer action

https://tenor.com/view/식품가공-gif-23488652

[worthy knoll]

Leek belongs into my mushroom cream Sauce for Pasta.
Also White Wine and 20 eggs, yes 20

[normal horizon]

I didnt mean pinging the game servers, someone posted a traceroute and I pinged the server that had latency and the one after it with out having latency which with my small brain would seem that pinging those directly would also give the latency

but I know nothing which is probably why I don't get it 🥲

maybe it has to go from the troubled hop to the specific next one for it to happen which probably didnt happen when I pinged the hop after the one causing the latency

didnt actually pay attention to it

[tight delta]

Right, right! Yeah, lot's of variables to deal with. I swear sometimes networks and networking issues are fueled by pure magic 😂

[still basin]

Its also a cookie cutter shooter with generic maps and gameplay. Probably pretty easy upkeep

We're all here bc hunt offers something the rest doesn't.

[knotty ore]

I'm on this disc because I think it could be better, and healthy.

[queen jungle]

@coral atlas Pre-teaming (i. e. trying to get into the same match with the intention of working together) is now allowed and you may report such players to Crytek.
Spontaneously teaming up in a match is perfectly fine, as there is always the risk of being betrayed by the other team and ultimately only one team can extract all the bounty.

[knotty ore]

How could you possibly tell the difference between pre-teaming and spontaneously teaming up?

[half stag]

Big thing is whether or not they're using proxy chat

[queen jungle]

Spontaneous teams usually use in-game coms and are usually wary of each other.

[knotty ore]

You can use proxy chat on purpose?

Just saying, I don't think you can definitively tell. Just make it so people who are on each other's friends lists cant load into the same map unless on a team together.

[queen jungle]

With some experience it gets rather easy to tell in my experience. But when in doubt, you can always report other teams and Crytek's customer support will take a closer look.

[lethal dirge]

that would be dumb. Get better people skills and team up yourself. Or, get good and kill both teams

teaming comes at the expense of rewards. Splitting the bounty nets you less money and XP, but you gain a friend

[knotty ore]

Get so good you can rapid fire chain pistols from 300m+ hitting nothing but headshots.

Then you don't have to worry about teaming up with anyone.

[lethal dirge]

bayou diplomacy is intrinsic to the hunt experience

taking that away from everyone because you died to a 6 man team once is incredibly short sighted and selfish

take the L

or kill all 6 guys

how? really, how?

do you propose crytek monitor every single game and VOIP interaction?

or do we eliminate VOIP so people on separate teams cant communicate?

how? Really, how though? Do you understand the logistics behind having a crytek staff member observe every game that happens?

"lets ruin the fun for everyone because I had one bad game. Everything revolves around me"

[knotty ore]

Football should just be 12 v 2. If you cant win just take the L

[trail carbon]

@pulsar quest I'm not sure if confederate representation makes a lot of sense. I'm fairly certain that the civil war didn't happen that way it happened in real history.

What with the new York incident and all

[lethal dirge]

now you're falling back on gradeschool insults

you had one bad game and youre mad, isnt that right?

[trail carbon]

Why shouldn't people be able to team up mid match with random strangers?

[tight delta]

Chill people.

[queen jungle]

There is no problem in the first place tbh. Being able to team up spontaneously has always been a part of the sandbox experience in Hunt.

[lethal dirge]

hey, I'm not the one throwing out insults

[queen jungle]

Please refrain from antagonising other users of this server.

[lethal dirge]

hunt is a multifaceted game with many win conditions.

[trail carbon]

Because it allows for more dynamic situations and is a part of the sandbox gameplay

[lethal dirge]

Im fine with giving up the bounty if it means I get to keep my hunter and make a duo or trio of new friends

picking up a random solo to help out your trio and make a 4 man team is incredibly fun

Im waiting for katsu to list a reason why teaming is bad other than "I dont like it"

[pulsar quest]

I’m unfamiliar with Hunt’s “real-world” lore. What’s the New York incident and how’d it affect the Civil War?

[lethal dirge]

his reasoning is incredible self-centered and he's relying on insults to get his point across

[tight delta]

Dude, let's de-escalate this. No need to antagonize them.

[queen jungle]

The friends we made along the way are the real reward in Hunt.

[trail carbon]

The new York incident was the first public arrival of the horrific monsters that the sculptor sent upon the world

[lethal dirge]

this is what I'm saying

[trail carbon]

And it shifted history quite significantly

[lethal dirge]

I just want the guy to actually explain his reasonings and back up his point without insulting me

Im not escalating anything, I'm just telling him the ball's in his court

[half stag]

source if you can?

[tight delta]

I get the reason, though I don't agree with it myself either.

I love when games have a proximity VOIP, and you can scheme with the other players.

[lethal dirge]

dudes reason doesnt go beyond "I dont like it"

[tight delta]

It's fun to relay info about other teams to your enemy in the hopes of getting them to change targets, even if it's just for a moment 😛

[lethal dirge]

its obvious he got teamed on and then came in here to try and get the devs to bend to his will

[tight delta]

Especially if you're the bounty team, and every other team is surrounding your compound.

Yeah. But I think it's still valid feedback / suggestion, maybe not a popular one.

Wish Hell Let Loose had proximity chat the enemy could hear

[pulsar quest]

“Your favorite anime is terrible and your waifu is trash!”
Every mob in 50 meters snaps towards the sound and starts running.

[still basin]

Why would you report teaming up lmao? Thats the unique fun part of these types of games the interactions with players and the unpredictability of them.

[tight delta]

I mean, you should report pre-teaming.

That's just nasty.

[still basin]

Thats just straight up insane and fueled by anger lol

Pre teaming sure, but how do you pre team exactly?

Hunter interaction should be at thier discretion like real life

Kill each or team its their choice that's the fun of it

@coral atlas either way I'm also not asking to ban people for using their free will lol

Thats goofy

[tight delta]

How some peeps do it is that they gather a group of friends, and start queuing up for matches at the same time. If they get into the same match, they will team up and use Discord for comms for example.

You'll have much higher chance to end up in the same lobby if you select a server that's not active at the given time.

[still basin]

I'm sure that happens, but thats a lot of effort to happen consistently

[tight delta]

It seems to be consistent enough, especially if you are in the same skill bracket as the other doods participating in it. Some regions are practically dead when it's night time.

If you don't end up in the same match, you can just either blow yourself up or extract and try again.

Some peeps have uploaded their match stats on a certain website, where you can actually see that some players do engage in some pre-teaming from time to time 😄

Not to be confused with just queuing at the same time to end up in the same lobbies, and then playing normally of course.

But yeah, I get the concern.

[still basin]

This argument is the same vein as people calling for specific gun or ammo nerfs. I died, I angry l, nerf/ban

[tight delta]

Getting angry at something doesn't automatically mean that the thing you're getting angry at isn't busted.

Not saying anyone was angry here, but you get the point 😄

But I have ran out of cents to hand out.

[still basin]

It isn't busted lol, I have 1400 hours and have saw team ups just a handful of times even then I didn't run away with my feelings hurt

[tight delta]

I think we have killed a pre-team or two before. Makes for a great gaming moment.

[still basin]

Yeah exactly

[hybrid gale]

I have 3500 hours and I can count all the situations people teamed up against my team on one hand. And I'm playing on EU Servers that are well populated around the clock

There is no problem that needs to be fixed

[royal grove]

I'm pro representation but saying they should edit the splash is pretty whack when they could just add another splash

@unique epoch you have a clip? The cone is smaller than the reticle. We get a lot of complaints on shotguns when in fact the person simply missed

[unique epoch]

No sorry i dont, but the cone was on the body

[trail carbon]

Well, to be completely fair, we could've been wrong. But most of my knowledge on the game's lore comes from the #lore-discussion channel. A couple years ago, I was trying to piece together the lore as best I could for a Pathfinder campaign I was running in the Hunt setting. So, take what I say with a couple grains of salt. More than one grain for sure, but not more than, say, ten.

We came to the conclusion that the civil war could've not happened, or could've happened in a different way. As in, it could've been later, earlier, involved different topics, etc.

The hunt lore is kinda like dark souls lore

You have to try very hard to get anything worthwhile out of it.

It's like they wrote a 100 page book about their story, then shot each page with a shotgun, and we got the leftovers

So my source is the #lore-discussion channel. I have what I learned written out if you would like that. Obviously I have no way of directly proving our conclusions. I can show you the causes, because those are ingame in the item descriptions and monster book and stuff.

The recent lore is a lot more straightforward

[half stag]

I've looked through them myself already, and from what I've gathered, I personally believe the timeline is mostly the same, except with the addition of supernatural activity being kept underwraps by organizations like the AHA.

which is why I was a little confused when you said that everyone knows about it, when its made clear in most entries that they try and prevent anyone from knowing about it

[trail carbon]

Well, I know the new York incident was quite public. Most people don't know what exactly it was, but most people know that something bad happened in New York.

They did their best to cover it up though.

Eh, maybe I was remembering wrong about the civil war changing

As the NY incident happened afterwards anyways

[pulsar quest]

I just figured it’d be easier to change the existing splash than it would be to make a new splash altogether, and raise less of a fuss overall.

[fresh lynx]

More splashes would be great imo, it's a nice opportunity to show off other characters. Though I think the one on the steam library banner is pretty great. Sweet vibe and illustrates the 2v2 aspect

[main cradle]

@austere crown just saying that automatic guns were around during the time hunt is taking place. Also hunt isn’t set during the Wild West. Just saying

[lean estuary]

I’m definitely pretty cynical (read: in the skeptical way) about how the lore ends up like this, but my guess is that the most plausible explanation is it’s a consequence of a project development process that’s never perfectly coordinated (none are). I’d bet that when the game started development, Crytek was unable to dedicate the time necessary to write a good, thorough bible with enough characters and through lines to sustain a looong project. Instead, when a new weapon, boss, or Legendary characters are made (based on a lot of time refining the game and user input), the writers are asked to make some short description, etc. to add material. The new material shouldn’t conflict with any other lore material, so a lot of things get added that might have strange connections to past material, or feel superficial and insubstantial. It’s also not always possible to have the visual artists and writers line up their narrative, so you get situations where the things a player actually encounters in the game might tell a different story than what the writers have created (before, after, or at a different pace regardless).
An unclear set of background stories also has the added “benefit” of players talking and speculating on their own. This sort of creates a perpetual motion machine of engagement, without the creator actually having to do the work of keeping their own material consistent…the “magic boxing” marketing strategy. Great for executives, but creatively bankrupt.

I think, obviously, Hunt deserves a really good story.

[half stag]

nah, its pretty bad. Early access had a completely different vibe with the lore (Matches were singular events (hint: only one boss ever existed), with our gameplay being retellings of that event from various sources, more references to real-world figures and, less frequent supernatural invasion (with them being more subdued and subtle). There used to be other lore books before the ones we currently have, but they went ahead and retconned (almost) everything on launch day, with us having no clue which parts are still canon or not, with the lore now just being stagnant with just pieces added to explain new skins, and constant writing directions shifts. Hell, its gotten so bad, that they're hiring a new narrative director with some pretty steep requirements.

[lean estuary]

I do not get why it’s ever necessary to address people replaying a game, using extra lives, repeatedly fighting the same enemies…if they’re playing the video game they’ve already suspended their disbelief enough

…and if not, maybe they need to put the controller down

[lean estuary]

@queen jungle Just saying, a lot of the Tier 1 people are fresh off the train, wearing their nicest starched white shirts.

[pulsar quest]

The corruption turns them progressively more goth over time.

[pulsar quest]

“The Darkness—I can feel it..! Overpowering me!” the Hunter cries. Her hands move, but they are not under her control. They reach for the eyeliner, for the mascara, for the lipstick. She screams. She does not recognize the woman in the mirror before her.

[queen jungle]

@sour bluff there is usually a known issues list at the end of the patchnotes

[sour bluff]

I know you ain't talking about new guys on the xbox community

[sour bluff]

Ive run into the same people in every single game tonight

[lean estuary]

No, I was just referencing a feedback suggestion about adding prettier outfits for some characters in the miserable, monster infested toilet world of Hunt

[sour bluff]

I gotcha that would be nice

[lean estuary]

I suppose

I figured you’d want to throw away your clothes after every expedition

And leave your nice stuff back in the steamer trunk

[queen jungle]

Yeah lets just make that cannon. Lets have Devs start adding soiled clothing of shit and urine to all hunters. Clean at tier 1, soiled at tier 2, demon of shit at tier 3. Cause by the end of it they're just literal walking toilet.

[lean estuary]

Haha…no I get it, just also thinking of not ending up shot to death because of brightly colored clothing

[knotty quarry]

haha haha that would be pretty funny

[austere crown]

Hmm,wild west and cowboys where in same time as Hunt is hapening and if u are liker of automatic guns go play COD or game like that.(problably no skill and u need automatic and to spary and pray.)

[lean estuary]

What’s up Doc