feedback-discussion

[signal mural]

Yeah, but there are plenty of gun/blunt melee variants. If I'm looking to dispence PvE there are enough options.

I would have to disagree that the effort is the same. A decoy skin is a single-cylindrical pattern; a rifle has multiple different surfaces/materials and places for more intricacies. The devs have some idea of value placed on their cosmetics and it has changed over time. I am considerably less likely to buy a premium Hunter if they have Legendary gear skin for things I don't use frequently. I would say the level of intricacy and any physical changes in the overall appearance of the weapon's form should play a roll in it's marketability and where it is sold and for what currency.

We could add a Latern to the tools as well - the assets are in the game. But this opens the door to skins, that essentially a firebomb is moved from consumables to tools, and so on...

[royal horizon]

I understand what you mean, I got a spyglass skin after my first prestige. But making a single legendary skin for the sledgehammer wouldn't hurt (I think there should be at least one legendary per weapon variant, looking at you Scottfield Swift) but there already are two or three machete skins, and I don't see people complain about them much, even when the weapon itself is very rarely used

[signal mural]

I think a lot of people were thrown off when Sgt. Bridgewater's Broken Saber skin wasn't actually a saber Legendary but a machete.

[royal horizon]

yes

I don't think they'll put out more decoys/fusees skins. There is already one skin for each, which is enough. I think they should focus on making skins for variants that don't have any skins yet

but i understand your criticism, it's really frustrating getting skins for weapons you never/rarely play.

[signal mural]

The trend now is that a Premium DLC Legendary Hunter comes with 1 Lg Primary, 1 Sm or Med Primary, and a tool or consumable. It is a fine trend but if a trinket replaces something in that pattern I'll be sorely disappointed.

[royal horizon]

I don't think trinkets will replace DLC content. I think some will be event-exclusive and other available for BBs

there were some leaks recently that stated that new trinkets will come out that will be available for BBs

more "common" trinkets if you will

[signal mural]

Yeah, and that's fine. I will unlock them and continue to forget to equip them. I will never pay BB or real currency for a trinket. Honestly, the jiggly baubles sometimes distract more than anything.

[royal horizon]

yeah i've seen the little string almost blocks the iron sights on certain guns, the Conversion for example

[sudden gyro]

Bruh, because you're a PC scrub that has no clue about the console world. If you play hunt in the morning and noon, there's literally no games with people. It is dying. 100%

[signal mural]

That's not dying that's people working and going to school.

[sudden gyro]

Nope. Last Saturday around 11am. Playing with a group of friends and for 2 hours we went from game to game of just empty lobbies

[royal horizon]

not everyone has time to grind 8 hours+ a day

[sudden gyro]

I like how you all are assuming I don't have a job lmao

What if I was a kid. No shit I wouldn't have a job.

[royal horizon]

you still would have school

[signal mural]

Lull times vary by region. They exist on PC too. No one is assuming you're jobless or not educated - most people play in the evenings.

[royal horizon]

Hunt isn't dying, but I feel like the community would like seeing the Devs acknowledge the criticisms made. At least in some way

[signal mural]

Cross-play shouldn't happen because of the aim assist and such that console sees. But the game is over 4yrs old and is a bit of a niche, I wouldn't anticipate full-servers world wide 24/7.

[sudden gyro]

My argument is that the game is dying. 6 months ago there was no problem finding games at noon, not even morning. Now there's problems finding games with people at noon

And it's because of issues with the game. Ik I'm sick of the stuck glitch that's been in the get for months

Reload a gun and your hunter wants to fire his whole clip and nothing else

[steel dawn]

Being broken is part of Hunt at this stage. If the community embraces it and mentions it often but with humility, crytek will get embarrassed and have to fix it. They don’t want a reputation like Bethesda

Hunt: Brokedown

[sudden gyro]

What does that last statement mean?

That could go both ways for them

[steel dawn]

You played Skyrim?

[sudden gyro]

Yeah

[steel dawn]

When recently or a decade ago?

[sudden gyro]

Honestly who hasn't lol

Few months actually

[steel dawn]

Yeah then take my word for it, it’s a valid and humorous statement

[signal mural]

No doubt - bugs & glitches need to be prioritized. But Hunt Showdown is now on a lot of different Operating systems and the challenges to make fixes across all platforms seems to be an overwhelming challenge for their current staff.

[sudden gyro]

No I mean I don't know if that was a good or bad statement

Bethesda fucked up hard but still make cult like games

[steel dawn]

@sudden gyro and will always be the figure of ridicule

[sudden gyro]

I get it

[steel dawn]

Nothing good since Skyrim

[signal mural]

Bethesda has become as money hungry and player-base abusing as Blizzard and EA.

[steel dawn]

Let that sink in

Seriously let that sink in

[sudden gyro]

Fallout 4?!

[steel dawn]

A huge disappointment again we played fallout 3 when it came out

[sudden gyro]

Just played it yesterday with mods that made it into an entirely different game, and horror.

[steel dawn]

Yeah and that’s Bethesda

[sudden gyro]

True, but mods on console

[steel dawn]

Shit but with mods they’re good

They’re rep forever

[sudden gyro]

The deathclaws

Play as a deathclaw

[steel dawn]

Yeah I’m aware of the mods and even more aware of Bethesda having nothing to do with them

[sudden gyro]

They allowed it

[steel dawn]

Ooooooooh

[sudden gyro]

That says more than most companies

[steel dawn]

If you’re tryna suck on Bethesda maybe

[sudden gyro]

Not even, you just can't deny that fact. Look at playstation. They think mods are the devil's gate way to your personal life

Like a Catholic person and weed

[steel dawn]

They also had one of the biggest hacks ever

It’s cause and effect

[sudden gyro]

Sony did?

[steel dawn]

I would have to explain too much to you so our frames of reference align. Just take my word for it. I don’t talk for the sake of it

[sudden gyro]

Lol, I'm just curious because you brought it up

[steel dawn]

I brought it up because it’s relevant

[sudden gyro]

See, I see it as Microsoft allows them and Sony doesn't l. Both been hacked multiple times, but Sony too also makes nothing compared to Microsoft.

[steel dawn]

Microsoft has way more money and will just try to buy stuff rather than build it

[sudden gyro]

That is too

[steel dawn]

You see how they got laughed out of Nintendo when they tried to buy it

[sudden gyro]

Ture*

[steel dawn]

I know

[sudden gyro]

Wait they tried to buy Nintendo?! Oh God I don't want to imagine Pokemon being ran by a woke ass company

Good on them on turning that down

[steel dawn]

Yeah they did, and got laughed out the offices

I think they have tried to buy everything

[sudden gyro]

Pretty sure they can't buy Sony or Nintendo do to monopoly laws

[steel dawn]

They hadn’t released the console yet

[sudden gyro]

The switch or a full blown console?

[steel dawn]

Never mind

[sudden gyro]

I mean the switch is a console technically

Super Nintendo 64 lol

GameCube

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Hello there! 

You are losing a good audience here in South America, here the value of consoles like Xbox Series S or Ps4 are much more affordable than a good entry-level PC, I believe they could better reach the people here with the game being available for purchase in the Microsoft store and Playstation store.  then they could invest in an SA server if the inclusion in stores brings results.  

About crossplay, I honestly don't understand why I still can't play with friends from another console (xbox + ps4) it limits the interaction of both,  my girlfriend for example, started playing for me but she is on ps4 and we can't play together because I'm on xbox, this is something limiting and that creates a border between lovers and game consumers.  

 I'm having fun with the missions and with them the game becomes more dynamic. 

Thank you very much and Success!! 👊🏻🙏🏻🔥♥️```

[somber harbor]

@craggy finch Deal x damage with x custom ammo doesn't disencourage headshots, getting headshots is the most efficient way to get damage towards it bro

the poison enemy hunters one is only an issue because there's a hard counter to it in the form of antidote shots

[crystal plume]

@novel pecan I have gone ahead and removed your reposts, please follow the channel rules shown in the pinned posts

[soft river]

@hazy stump brazilians play on us east because their home servers are terrible

some other servers are dying and players are being sent to other servers

like asia to us east

[lethal oyster]

I see Suggestions for Hunt to be put on Game Pass/Ps+ getting down voted quite hard. Way harder than I'd expect.

Why is this? I don't understand. What do people dislike about this?

[dense schooner]

No idea to be honest. That would only be beneficial for the game more than anything.

[soft river]

mainly because that would only encourage crytek to be a little more risky with monetary policy

they don't make a whole lot of money from game sales

[knotty ore]

You can get out of range. The issue is that if you allow people to turn away from it, it would be completely useless because you can't throw it around corners.

[burnt mulch]

eh. the problem with making flashes dependent on facing it is it makes them inconsistent.

[fossil frost]

Also would someone with narrower fov be harder to flash? Or are they going to complain here that they are broken because the flash wasn't in their fov but set to a server fov for their facing

[novel pecan]

there is more than 60 yes votes, not alot of posts reach this high of a number, If u calculate how many poeple actually read the post, this would be an fine addition to the game

[main cradle]

Dude, doesn’t matter if people want it or not, you’re just clogging the channel with multiple posts, that’ll have a different amount of votes.

[stray horizon]

sure I mean you don't have to nerf it that way though, I think just adding a fuse like any other throwable would be fair

it could be a really short fuse

[dense schooner]

i think a one-second fuse would be fine.

i just really hate how some players rely on flash bombs to kill people.

[lethal oyster]

Is this a problem? From what I've heard (and also my own opinion), the more aggressive monetising crytek is implementing is mainly a problem because Hunt is still a full prized game. If I got the game via game pass, i wouldn't complain one bit about it.

[unborn smelt]

Can you define "full prize game" ?
Cause Hunt was only 40$ at launch which is a good bit less than other typical "full prize games" starting commonly at 60$ / 70$ upwards - and with a lifecycle of nearly 6 years by now, it's also supported with new content updates longer than most "full prize games" which often follow a yearly or semi-yearly cycle.

[dense schooner]

game pass increases game popularity

same with PS+

[unborn smelt]

I think it's perfectly fair to acknowlege that after 5 years (almost 6 with early access) the initial sales won't be able to keep up with continuous costs for support and development

especially when we highlight the fact that none of the gameplay relevant content updates were monetized - also unlike most other "full prize games" that slap new weapons and maps into a DLC.

[soft river]

he meant full priced game

[unborn smelt]

Just to be clear - it's still okay to dislike the aggressive monetisation, i too have my gripes with how on the nose it feels sometimes. But there's some good reasons for it being the way it is

[unborn smelt]

yes a game that sold at 70$ initially or a game that sold at 30$ in EA / 40$ full release are both "full price games."

that is what i'm hinting at

one will have massively more initial funding than the other tho

[soft river]

@hybrid forum i love doing this in games

i would play the binding of isaac with my friend through steam remote play

i used a controller and could very slowly walk

which he couldn't do on a keyboard

there is no real advantage to this in that game

[hybrid forum]

I've bought my first controller only recently, and it's amazing to do. It doesn't work with every game, but when it does it's pure fun

[soft river]

i will not try it in hunt

i would use a controller for any game but an fps

[hybrid forum]

I only do it because my mouse broke and I need to scapula 6 doors

[soft river]

also i don't think hunt supports gyro controls for aiming

[hybrid forum]

tried to play red dead with it, just simply couldnt

[hybrid forum]

lmao I have an xbox360 game pad, it's not like I could use that

[dense schooner]

sadly it doesn’t. it would be truly great

[soft river]

same

[hybrid forum]

I've seen gyro in Team Fortress 2, and it made me rethink the viability of controllers in shooters

[soft river]

i only have a broken xbox one wired and a wired 360 controller

suprisingly all my xbox one stuff has problems

and my xbox 360 stuff is flawless

interesting

[hybrid forum]

I mean, it still wouldn't beat mnk because you have to hold it in the air 24/7, but it has it's advantages

[soft river]

my xbox one won't properly update and by xbox one controller has a broken d pad

oh god how does anyone use a controller for hunt

push right stick to ADS??

[dense schooner]

Hunter control scheme. That’s what many players, including me, do

[hybrid forum]

hold the stick to sprint, and the other stick to meele

[soft river]

i would change the controls

i've seen worse

if anyone has seen binding of isaac default controls

they're terrible

[dense schooner]

After seeing lots of people accidentally meleeing during a gunfight, I see no benefit having melee bound to right stick press (R3/RS)

[signal mural]

I don't know but I'd guess it is the lack of division in game mechanics and updates. The game isn't Cross-Platform and so each console/region probably has a little variance in their Meta and their bugs & glitches... getting more console players would mean more feedback but for a game who's playerbase was originally PC only. The more non-PC feedback the more changes players may see away from the Hunt Showdown that they know and love. Since there aren't separate builds and economies per platform the game could change for the worse to accommodate a broader playerbase and cater to controller based play more rather than keyboard & mouse.

This is just stipulation on my part since I've frequently heard stuff about Hunt's graphics being "dumbed down" to reach a bigger audience on console and low end PCs.

[lethal oyster]

That's the exact reason why game pass/ps+ is a good idea. Game sales don't make a huge impact anyway so why not? That's what I'm trying to find out.

[somber harbor]

Tbf console players give plenty of feedback in the bugs and issues sections, we also did get every form of explosive ammo except the crossbow nerfed into the ground lol

We also keep crying out for something to make the explo crossy require more skill or a limit to how many can be on a team bc a full team of mortar fire is hellish on console

That being said the game is gradually become less playable on console with each patch. Bugs all over, weapon wheel bug been here since day 1, loading times without an SSD getting to the point where it takes 3+ minutes to reach the title screen or menu between matches, death screens just sometimed don't happen on ps4 either now

Games a mess on console

[elfin zephyr]

Game runs just fine on console, the bugs are the issue

[steel dawn]

They will twiddle their thumbs and something will just take its place on console

Seeing more and more extraction shooters

Crytek need to capitalise rather than let other devs run with it

[unborn dagger]

I don't want to say it but I feel like Console hunt needs to have its weapon wheel removed in favor of the quickswapping on the d pad.

That way melee is mapped to R1 as it should be

[steel dawn]

More elite controllers are coming out with key mapping features, I don’t think the weapon wheel will ever be fixed

I would just invest in one of those

[unborn dagger]

Same unfortunately

[steel dawn]

Then pray for a sequel

Or just embrace it and call it a feature

[unborn dagger]

It needs a sequel with a different engine

[steel dawn]

Facts

[unborn dagger]

This engine sucks ass with how the devs are struggling to keep it together for hunt

[steel dawn]

Overwatch 2 it

[atomic cipher]

@pallid nacelle the game feels like trash atm and devs being silent as always definitely doesn't help.

[somber harbor]

We have that for the first slots on both tools and consumables, idk how they could change it by removing the wheel without making it more painful to switch through stuff by tapping the button repeatedly

[dense schooner]

The melee issue is alleviated with the Hunter control scheme really.

[somber harbor]

Not even alleviated

Fixed

Game was clearly designed for it

[elfin zephyr]

Weapon wheel will always be a thing there will never be a controller with 8 buttons on the bottom to replace a wheel in games.

[unborn dagger]

That's what I suggested before, have two slots for each d-pad or have an option for it cause I'd certainly use the hell out of it with how crappy the weapon wheel and melee is in this game.

I'm just thankful the ps5(Not sure if XSX has it) lets you map your buttons. It's not a complete fix cause now the main menu is annoying to navigate through

[pallid nacelle]

It's unplayable. The last 3 days I've gone into one game and instantly extracted because of 2K ping. If it continues like this people should be able to request a refund.

[obtuse orbit]

Add a favorite option to legendary hunters

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[prime ibex]

@hushed sequoia ....So I bump into a teammate and transfer my bleeding wounds to them, and my poisoned veins as well?

[onyx reef]

add a link to go to the library with a simple click on weapon

[knotty ore]

I ran 4 Certain Victories and didn't win. Please fix.

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something i would like to see added to the game would be choosing what time of day you go into. i love night time, it just adds a whole other level to the game for me and i enjoy being sneaky```

[sinful bough]

PLEASE overhall your matchmaking system. I'm a 4 star, this is my server. WTF

[proven sand]

either you play in a very low population server region (afaik the mmr range varies in some regions) or you simply forgot to activate skill based matchmaking

[sinful bough]

I play in north america, the matchmaking is always bad for no reason

[proven sand]

hm, that seems weird, are you sure you ticked skill based matchmaking to get players of the same mmr rank? doesn't look like it to me

[halcyon prawn]

It’s only like that because you don’t have skill based ticked.
It matches you with lower players to speed up que times

I’ve never even seen a one star player though and I’m a 3-4 star depending on the day
And I also never Rick skill based cause skill based is boring.
I’ll go up against 6 stars all day over the 3 and 2 stars

[sinful bough]

That's not at all true. I queue with randoms, SBMM is always on. It queues me with this crap all the time.

[halcyon prawn]

That’s weird I’m also NA and I don’t get that maybe turn it off instead I hate playing with it on i like fighting higher skill players

[elfin zephyr]

@inner yarrow its not like they one tapped you with them and at that range they were doing 40 damage max to the body

[halcyon prawn]

Also you should complain about flachettes, I’ve outgunned several mosins with flachettes from longer ranges than I should have

[proven sand]

complaining about shotguns ... whats up with dragon breath rn, never used it too much myself but because of questline i run into a lot of players using it. getting blasted from 20-30m away loosing 50 hp instantly and being on fire seems a bit op. no?

[halcyon prawn]

They just buffed it and flachettes

Both ammo types got a huge damage buff

Dragons breath was a total meme and now it’s like better than just the base ammo for it

Especially if you use the hand canon it goes from like a super close range one shot to a reliable ranged weapon

[proven sand]

yeah i actually remember it being more like a meme, seems like they buffed a bit too much imo but might aswell try it out myself, got really scared and fucked up whenever i ran into someone using it

[inner yarrow]

guess he headshot me multiple times in quick succession then because it was doing 70 damage. and doesn't show up as a headshot on the death screen

[burnt mulch]

idk what y'all are on, dragonsbreath is still shit

and flechettes is great until you get pushed by an actual shotgun

[halcyon prawn]

Flavhettes are meant to allow you to fight at range reliably not for close up. Dragonsnreath reliable 2 shots now

Like even with the sawed off

But you have to be much closer just not as close as the normal default rounds

They are like a tier list slugs > flaghette > dragonsnreath> default

Slugs are always going to be better than any other ammo type for them but it’s expensive to run
Penny shot is kinda in its own territory being both a compleate meme and the highest damaging ammo type for shotguns

Pennyshot deaks so much damage that it will half health your teammate even with the damage reduction to friendly fire

[burnt mulch]

flechettes turns a shotgun into a weird dumdum rifle. which is great but it's still a dumdum rifle.

dragonsbreath "reliable 2 shots now", except it's less reliable than buckshot or flechettes for two-shotting

[halcyon prawn]

Yea but it’s still a one shot headshot at 9 meters and a 2 shot kill at 20

[burnt mulch]

what, dragonsbreath?

[halcyon prawn]

Right but it’s also $20

[halcyon prawn]

No flachettes

[burnt mulch]

buckshot is free.

[halcyon prawn]

Oh I thought you meant slugs

[burnt mulch]

you know what's a oneshot headshot at 9 meters and a 2 shot kill at 20? any rifle.

[halcyon prawn]

At least on the Romero the dragonsbreath is far better if you want to fight at any range other than point blank after the buffs

[burnt mulch]

... what

[halcyon prawn]

Yea but you have to aim with a rifle

I point and click with the rival and somone dies very rarely have to actually aim well at all

[burnt mulch]

you have to aim with flechettes too, if you plan on getting headshots or long range two shots.

if you wanted to get close range two-shots, any gun can do that.

[halcyon prawn]

Nah like the spread on it is always the same

It doesn’t vary

[burnt mulch]

what does that have to do with anything

[halcyon prawn]

If you learn the spread and know it will always go there it’s just a matter of placing your crosshair anywhere near the enemy and your likely to get a kill or force them to bandage immeduatly

Like out in the open

Like with other guns there’s a spread pattern where your bullets don’t always go where you aim they deviate

But fkavhette pellets always fly the same way weather your running straffing or jumping

They don’t deviate

[burnt mulch]

??? all single-bullet guns are pinpoint accurate, wtf do you mean spread pattern

the only thing that flechettes can do that a rifle can't is jumpshot

[halcyon prawn]

Bruh what, aiming standing still vs strafing is much different with most guns

[burnt mulch]

it's absolutely not.

there's no movement inaccuracy in hunt, and if you think there is, then you're just missing.

[halcyon prawn]

It’s the weapon sway it’s harder to control while moving but it doesn’t matter with certain ammo types

Legitimately use dragons breath after the buff I promise you it’s so much better now

[lethal silo]

all of the guns bullets will follow the barrel so if you look at a barrel in what direction it's pointing and try to draw a line with your eyes you can see where the bullet will lend and it will always lend there

[halcyon prawn]

Oh ofc

[lethal silo]

you can't shoot and the bullet just hit the ground or hit the roof if the barrel is pointing straight no matter if you looking down sights or not

[uneven depot]

is the reception for the crosshair placement positive or negative in general does anyone know?

[halcyon prawn]

Negative

But it’s like that way for a reason

I forget the reason but it’s a reason that makes it unlikely to change

[burnt mulch]

you're reducing your kill range and overall damage at all ranges for the possibility of burning.

but ok

[halcyon prawn]

You arnt though it literally deals more damage at any range past point blank range
Your basing your comments off the old dragons breath which was a joke the buffs significantly made it better. It’s in every match now for a reason and it’s not just the quest. The quests end soon most people have that shit done. It’s just so much better now than it was

But especially if your using the hand canon
The handcanon can basically only get kills on enemies right in front of you but the dragonsbreath increases it’s range and accuracy so much while not reducing its damage

It’s such an amazing secondary now for close range fights

I mean sure you can’t oneshot kill at point blank range anymore but the point is to increase your range and reliability in all situations not just one.
That’s why i like flachettes or if I can afford to run it regularly slugs because it covers a much wider range of situations that just being right up on somone

Your also forgetting how much better your movement is when running dragonsbreath to
You can factually maneuver better because you don’t have to aim as precisely and you can jump and shoot exactly where your aiming there’s almost 0 weapon sway etc so you tend to outgun anyone within range of you have cover to reload

[burnt mulch]

please, point at where dragonsbreath does more damage at range

[halcyon prawn]

On the handcanon it does significantly more

The regular romera it deals a little less but hits more reliably, you have to get kinda lucky with the buckshot

Buckshot spread is random dragonsbreath is a straight line always infront of your gun same with flachettes
Slugs can be very inaccurate if moving or hip firing

Really just try it you’ll see what I mean instantly. your judging it way to harshly. If this was the patch ammo types came out I’d agree but now I consider it a viable option if you can’t afford slugs

Or don’t have slugs

[burnt mulch]

I can make up claims too doesn't make them true

[halcyon prawn]

But mine are backed up by the increased popularity after the buffs
It went from you never see dragonsbreath to people maining the ammo type regularly

Normal fire ammo to got a tweek and it’s much more common now to maybe still not as good but you can run it just fine and it not be a handicap

[burnt mulch]

burning quest lol

[halcyon prawn]

At the end of the event?

[burnt mulch]

its not over yet

it got buffed like 12 patches ago

[halcyon prawn]

It wouldn’t be this common close to the end and what happens when it’s still popular after the event

[halcyon prawn]

It literally got buffed like last month along with flachettes it’s the reason I came back to the game

I use flavhettes religiously so them getting buffed was the shit

[burnt mulch]

seriously though

wanna back up that "deals more damage at all ranges" thing?

and if you say "it just feels better"

then we're done

[halcyon prawn]

I told you to try it out, you refuse so that’s on you

[burnt mulch]

lol

[halcyon prawn]

Hunt doesn’t have reliable stats on the guns themselves

[burnt mulch]

so you've tested it then?

[halcyon prawn]

According to the gun stats I shouldn’t be able to 2 shot somone at 20 meters with flachettes or slugs but you can reliably do that

[burnt mulch]

... lmao where does it say that

[halcyon prawn]

Yes and seem several teammates make dragonsbreath look like the best ammo in the game

[burnt mulch]

slugs have like a 30m two tap range

[halcyon prawn]

Effective range

[burnt mulch]

effective range is one shot headshot range

[halcyon prawn]

The effective range is only like 15 meters

Yea but like for the negant for example it’s damage falloff after 75 meters is so steep

For body shots

[burnt mulch]

"megan's"

what?

[halcyon prawn]

Yea sorry lol

[burnt mulch]

you mean the nagant pistol??

[halcyon prawn]

Negant, starting pistol

Yea

[burnt mulch]

the effective range is 73 because that's the range it stops headshotting

wtf do you mean

[halcyon prawn]

Right but the body shot damage on that gun sievifically drops heavily

[halcyon prawn]

It basically becomes a BB gun

[burnt mulch]

the bodyshot damage on the nagant starts dropping at 10m

[halcyon prawn]

Yea

But all guns have a range that that happens

[burnt mulch]

so why are you talking bout effective range on a shotgun like it stops two tapping past the effective range?

[halcyon prawn]

Because it’s technically supposed to it doesn’t though

The stats don’t actually line up with the guns actual damage this has been tested in several videos you can watch

With all the guns

[burnt mulch]

....

Because it’s technically supposed to it doesn’t though
based on what

the effective range?

I just said its for headshots

and oneshots

not twoshots

[halcyon prawn]

Im aware

[burnt mulch]

so why wouldn't it two shot past effective range

[halcyon prawn]

Im not arguing with you anymore. If your not even going to test it out yourself and just assume you are right then you can keep missing out on buffs that genuinely make guns better

[burnt mulch]

you haven't made an argument besides "lol just try it"

[halcyon prawn]

Because it’s not possible to show any data because the game doesn’t have any reliable data you can just look at

You have to actually test it and record it

I can’t record it myself so the only thing I can do is sugest you try it for yourself

[burnt mulch]

you don't even know what the stats mean, much less how reliable it is

[burnt mulch]

also, what videos lol

[halcyon prawn]

I do.. I wasn’t referring to the headshot damage

You assumed I was because that’s the stat shown

[burnt mulch]

ok, what stat is unreliable that supports your point

[halcyon prawn]

I was stating the damage falloff for the nagant pistol after that headshot range for body shots is borderline nonexistent

Like you might as well be firing blanks for that specific gun

And that they all have a point past that range where you just don’t deal damage anymore

[burnt mulch]

what stat is unreliable though

[halcyon prawn]

Bruh

You gotta be baiting at this point

[burnt mulch]

the effective range for the nagant is accurate. it shows the oneshot headshot range.

what about that is inaccurate?

[halcyon prawn]

Def baiting

[burnt mulch]

some of the stats are wrong but none of them support your argument lol

[halcyon prawn]

Try it or don’t, not my problem I answered the other guys question

[burnt mulch]

your only point is "it got a buff" and "just try it"

you claim that it increases damage at all ranges, but you also say it decreases oneshot range.

you say that the stats are wrong but you don't say which stats are wrong and how

[halcyon prawn]

Because those points are all you need. If you used it you’d immediatly see that I’m right and you lose literally nothing by testing it out yourself the Romero handcanon comes free with 90% of free hunters and dragons breath is like $20

[burnt mulch]

what would I see?

[halcyon prawn]

I did actually you just choose not to read

[burnt mulch]

you said the effective range stat is wrong

but how is it wrong lol

[halcyon prawn]

It doesn’t decrease oneshot range it makes it unable to oneshot like with flachettes unless it’s a headshot

[burnt mulch]

uhh

dragonsbreath can one shot to body lol

[unborn smelt]

No - not anymore

[halcyon prawn]

Oh was that one of the buffs? I missed that one my bad

[unborn smelt]

DB can oneshot now, they changed that a few patches back

[halcyon prawn]

But that just further proves my point that it’s better now

It’s no longer just a meme you run when you wanna shoot die into the sky on a night map

[unborn smelt]

It still kind of is tho

Its a better meme,but a meme none the less

[burnt mulch]

dude you don't even know what it does

and you're trying to argue that it's better than buck

[unborn smelt]

It lacks pen,has an abysmal dmg on range, has bad accuracy and an abysmal 100 m/s velocity.

Its only "redeeming" feature is the potential to make people burn and permanently loose HP

[halcyon prawn]

Im only saying it’s better than the base ammo for the Romero

Literally any other ammo type is better

[unborn smelt]

If you think so for yourself okay

[halcyon prawn]

Pennyshot, slugs, flachettes etc

[unborn smelt]

But most people wont agree on that

[burnt mulch]

you're literally trying to say that DB does more damage than buck at all ranges

that's just plain wrong

thats not an opinion

[halcyon prawn]

Not all ranges no, just the 5 meters it actually can hit players at. It literally disappears physically after a certain point

I said that earlier

Obviously any damage is better than 0 after a certain point

[burnt mulch]

how about we make this simple

make a list

of the things you think DB does better

[halcyon prawn]

And the damage is only better than the handcanon I said it deals less than the regular Romero just that it’s more reliable at it’s effective range

[burnt mulch]

because what DB actually does is
reduce one shot range
reduce damage
increase burn

[halcyon prawn]

@dry vortex bruh the knife and bullets don’t even pierce that shit why would the flachettes

[burnt mulch]

And the damage is only better than the handcanon I said it deals less than the regular Romero just that it’s more reliable at it’s effective range
what does this even mean

[halcyon prawn]

It means the handcanons damage falloff is much worse but only for the base ammo

The other ammo types are all pretty reliable on it

[burnt mulch]

you're saying that DB reduces the damage falloff of shotguns?

because that's just wrong.

[halcyon prawn]

No..

[unborn smelt]

The base romero has the best "dmg falloff"

[burnt mulch]

so what are you saying

[unborn smelt]

Because all handcannons have the same - only the spread differs

[halcyon prawn]

Yea the regular Romero has great range

[burnt mulch]

you're saying that dragonsbreath reduces damage falloff for handcannons?

[halcyon prawn]

Yes

[unborn smelt]

And the romero handcannon has the best spread

[halcyon prawn]

Ragnorok explained what I was trying to say better

The spread on the dragonsbreath is more reliable than the base handcanon slread because it’s always a straight line

That’s what I was trying to say but I admit I didn’t word it well

[burnt mulch]

.. what?

that's not what he said at all

he said nothing about dragonbreath, only the romero

[halcyon prawn]

Ik that’s what I said

I was saying effective range wasn’t the right wording

[unborn smelt]

No its not...

The visual effect is

[halcyon prawn]

It’s dumb accurate when you ads compare to base buckshot

[unborn smelt]

But thespread is still just regular pellets

[burnt mulch]

I don't think DB reduces spread.

got a source on that? or are you just gonna say "try it" again?

[halcyon prawn]

I guess I could be wrong but I’ve never missed a shot with it if the sights were on somone but I’ve missed many buckshot shots
With the handcanon, it’s a different story with the regular Romero

[halcyon prawn]

I will continue to say try it because I’m positive if you did you’d agree. It genuinely feels like it’s significantly more accurate than anything but slugs

[hoary kelp]

Doesnt dragons breath add more spread?

[burnt mulch]

I'll try it if you can prove in a controlled environment that it has better spread.

because there's literally nowhere except your word that says DB has better spread.

you're the only source I've ever seen that says it does.

[halcyon prawn]

I’ve only heard people talk about how good it is lately that’s why I brought it up

And a large portion of the 5 and 6 stars I’ve been playing with have been running dragonsbreath handcanons and wiping teams

Like they make it look like the best gun in the game I def can’t do what they did

[burnt mulch]

yeah, and a large portion of the 5 and 6 stars I've been playing with have been running alamo starshell and wiping teams

[halcyon prawn]

At sone point that has to mean it’s at least viable

[burnt mulch]

see how dumb it sounds when you have an unverified claim that you can't back up with logic or actual facts?

[halcyon prawn]

I realize your just being sarcastic but

That’s why I said try it you lose literally nothing because of how cheap it is

It’s not like I’m suggesting you run duel uppercut explosive

If it doesn’t work you lose like max 200 hunt dollars and a death

If it works you gain a new thing to use though

[burnt mulch]

I tried dragonsbreath before, and none of the recent buffs indicate to me that it's any better than buckshot. why would I try it again

especially off the word of someone who's already tried to give me false information?

[halcyon prawn]

It’s pretty hard to prove info in this game unless you can physically record yourself doing it.
A large portion of the info is meant to be found out there wird of mouth or experimentation and like poison sparks was a meme for a long ass time until people started running it more and now it’s so meta that you might as well run an antidote every match

[halcyon prawn]

I got literally one thing wrong about somthing that was true at one point

And misworded another point

[burnt mulch]

three.

[halcyon prawn]

Doesn’t change the fact that it did get buffed
One point of damage is the different between the sparks being the strongest gun in the game and just a strong gun

If it got one point of damage added to it it would be a one shot kill but it’s just one point of damage it can’t matter that much

🤷‍♀️

[burnt mulch]

yeah but with the sparks, you'd be able to say why

"because it pushes it over the 150 damage threshold to one shot to chest"

[halcyon prawn]

I said why you just don’t believe the reason

[burnt mulch]

you said it increases the reliability by reducing the spread. it does not.

[halcyon prawn]

And yknow what I might totally be wrong in that but it sure does feel like a much more reliable gun than the base handcanons

[burnt mulch]

it's all your feel though

[hallow tartan]

THE QUESTLINBES SUCK

[burnt mulch]

you can't give a reason for why

[halcyon prawn]

But that’s why I said test it
I could be 100% right but just can’t prove it

It’s not easy to prove off just words

[hallow tartan]

Questlines are low effort make up that the game didnt need

[burnt mulch]

sure it's easy to prove off of words.

DB has less one shot range and less damage at all ranges.

it has no wall penetration.

in those respects, its strictly worse than buckshot.

in exchange, it gains the ability to burn hunters and light things on fire.

[halcyon prawn]

But like dum dum ammo does the same and it’s way better than you’d think it should be to

[burnt mulch]

dumdum does not lose damage. the downside is reduced muzzle velocity and no penetration.

the upside is immediate threat in the form of hp loss from bleed.

[halcyon prawn]

It doesn’t lose damage?

[burnt mulch]

no.

[halcyon prawn]

I thought it lost like 10 or 15

Im also at work rn so can’t actually look at much

I’d love to actually pull up the game and Better have this convo but

[burnt mulch]

you see why I'm reluctant to trust your word, when this is the 4th thing you've said that's just not true?

I'm not gonna just try it

[halcyon prawn]

If I’m wrong I’m wrong my bad, but I genuinely stand by the dragons breath not being as bad as it was. If you like it you can get kills with it and not be held back

I think it’s much easier to get kills with than the base ammo but if I’m just better with that then the case then I guess I am
But watching all these higher mmr players using it makes me genuinely feel like it’s good now

They always tap once with somthing then swap to the dragonsbreath and kill them from ranger I didn’t know could be possible and they just point and shoot don’t efen aim much at all

I can’t do that but idk if they could do that if it was still super bad

[burnt mulch]

you can kill people with a bornheim, it doesn't make it a good gun.

you can kill people with DB, doesn't make it good. certainly doesn't make it better than buck.

[halcyon prawn]

Bornheim is fine if you use the match, but the officer is just so much better

Not counting the much better guns above them

Is the doltch still considered good or did the nerfs hit that too hard to I don’t see it much anymore

Like how you see less uppercuts because of the sparks pistol being more cost effective

[pallid kernel]

dolch is special ammo now afaik

[hallow tartan]

next tothe questline the beetle is the worst idea you guys have ever had

its awful game play botht to do and to play against just annoying not fun

again low effort ideas that the game dosent need

[halcyon prawn]

It’s so cute though I stan for the beetle

It does need a buff though

If somone has an antidote shot it’s useless

[burnt mulch]

dolch is good as a gun, but generally considered overpriced.

[hallow tartan]

no take it out its an awful item

[pallid kernel]

do you like the flash bombs more?

[hallow tartan]

than the beetle well yeah

[pallid kernel]

equip em, toss em in their general direction, win

[hallow tartan]

simply its more action and your wrong

[pallid kernel]

get barely any warning, deaf and blind, lose

[hallow tartan]

often you dont hit need to not suck and flash yourself

[pallid kernel]

maybe you should start using the beetle with the same mindset

[halcyon prawn]

The beetle is a good rushing tool

[hallow tartan]

beetle bring 4 camp in bush

kno

[pallid kernel]

what are you even trying to say

[hallow tartan]

no

w

why would i want to camp like that

[halcyon prawn]

It’s also actually not bad for gathering info I’ve had teeamates use it to find the last member of a team when we don’t have bounty

[hallow tartan]

its boring and annoying to deal with it

[halcyon prawn]

I’m really bad at controlling it

[pallid kernel]

it fits the slow pace of the game

[hallow tartan]

now you have to worry about shooting into the sky in shit its awful

[pallid kernel]

scouting smth out before pushing

[hallow tartan]

shouldnt need to scout

[halcyon prawn]

You mean it does it’s job as a distraction?

[hallow tartan]

its just awful game play

[halcyon prawn]

My god how dare they release an item that works as intended

[halcyon prawn]

It’s adorable and mines named Jeffrey

[hallow tartan]

boring and annoying

[pallid kernel]

youre the type of person to run into a compound, get shotgunned, and ask yourself why THEY play like that

[halcyon prawn]

Yea honestly

It’s almost like hunt is a slow paced skill shooter and not cod

[pallid kernel]

what are ears anyways, right?

[hallow tartan]

sure what ever its still boring and annoying

[halcyon prawn]

Don’t ever play Tarkov

This game is a joke compared to how slow and boring tarkov is

Which im p sure the devs said they took inspiration from

They play very similarly regardless

[burnt mulch]

... I like tarkov and the beetle.

[halcyon prawn]

Beetle is great one of the best things they ever added and I really really hope we get beetle cosmetics

[pallid kernel]

I used to play siege when it was a good game, so the beetle comes natural for me

[halcyon prawn]

I hope they add beetle outfits

Like a little top hat

🥰

[burnt mulch]

I think beetle should be easier to shoot out of the air, but that's about it.

it's a lot easier to break stuff like beetle in games with automatic rifles

[little fulcrum]

kill meatheads with explosive damage
doesn't work with bomb lance. keyword bomb. dunno what to do with this game anymore. very bad game.

[halcyon prawn]

Bomb lance doesn’t count as explosive damage much like the frag and sticky bomb don’t

It’s because the direct hit of it overrides the damage, if you shoot the ground then let the splash damage hit it it should count I think, that’s what it does with crossbows

[little fulcrum]

"bomb"

is a bomb an explosive

[halcyon prawn]

Right but your not understanding what I mean

[little fulcrum]

it should specifically call out that the bomb lance doesn't count

[halcyon prawn]

The innitial hit of the harpoon is not explosive and that’s what it tracks for the kill

[little fulcrum]

i understand that the devs are bad at descriptions in game but it doesn't mean it makes the game any less smelly

[halcyon prawn]

Same with if you shoot it directly with the explosive crossbow the direct hit is what’s counted

[little fulcrum]

then the game logic stinks

[halcyon prawn]

It is bad I’m not saying it isn’t but it’s not that complicated to understand and compleat

Saying the games bad just because they released quests for the first time and they weren’t all winners is a little overkill

I mean the beetle one is downright horrible to add and they did but that doesn’t mean the system or game itself is bad especially when the solution to fixing it is p easy. Sparks poison with beetle p much instantly conpleat a the kill one

2 big dynamite bundles clears the meathead one

[burnt mulch]

no it's actually explosive damage, the problem is the quest only counts splash damage and not direct damage.

[halcyon prawn]

Oh so just all round worded badly

That’s an easy fix for the next quest line

[burnt mulch]

bulwark works on bomblance so it’s definitely explosive damage. I’ve heard that explosive ammo doesn’t work on direct hit either.

[halcyon prawn]

It doesn’t many people tried to compleat it with nitro explosive

And martini her I..? Or Springfield whichever has it

[signal mural]

Dealing explosive damage is best with the Crossbow; Killing Meatheads with explosives is best done with TNT.

Everything else takes longer and feels like a grind.

Same thing with 'Light Enemy Hunters on Fire' - best done with Hellfires, Tripwires on EVERY yellow barrel, and Fanning on Pax with Incind. ammo.

[winter thunder]

@craggy pike @left kraken thank you for the clarification i will rescind my feedback

[signal mural]

Or levering on the Winnie

[burnt mulch]

drqgonbreath was pretty good for that one.

and well if you’re gonna mention fanning pax, winnie levering and bornheim were decent.

[signal mural]

True true. I found Dragon's Breath good but often doing OHKs.

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[uneven wind]

2 days ago, I completely reset the progress of the quest line with Twitch Drops and with Halloween quest line, as well as the cell for 300 BB in weekly tasks, quest line with Twitch Drops, I can't start again, whereas with Halloween I can. GIVE ME BACK MY CHARM!

[normal horizon]

please reach out to #customer-support

[austere crown]

Looking all posts and still u have more negative then positive,i just wana know how much ideas devs bring to game on players demand or after voting.I think lower then 1 precent.If that is case what is point of any kind of vote or dissucasion.Dron and automactic guns are first things need to go,after that custom ammo can be some removed.Need more skill not just RNG.But if someone wana this game be like COD or CSGO then ok but it is still unique and can be fixted.

[tribal wyvern]

@pearl summit You kinda defeated your own point by proving how bad & good they can be.
Against someone who is decent at aiming, dual pistol sucks.
And you shouldn't really fight them in the open anyway, just peek & shoot.
You can guarantee hits, they cant

[karmic ivy]

looks more positive than negative to me, speaking of all sources, posts, reviews, videos... I see players who absolutely love how Hunt does things different.

[somber harbor]

custom ammo was one of the best things to happen to the game

drone ain't even that bad no one really uses it either

and trust me I was highly skeptical of the drone but I rarely see it in play

I just don't think it was worth the resources now

@inner yarrow have you seen irl slugs? the devs toned them down to all hell for ingame reasons because of how crazy they are, a 70m death means you've been hit multiple times no doubt

[tawny meadow]

@somber harbor regarding your message in #feedback: other legendary hunters have received visual update for their first person pov, so we can hope 🙂

[somber harbor]

yeah I know they changed the early skins to have first person pov's that let you know what skin you were playing as

[signal mural]

@tribal wyvern Halloween in Hunt wasn't huge even the last years. The Questline rewards are good and have a very Halloween-vibe IMO - and are offering a chance for new players to get some old skins.

Halloween isn't necessarily a Worldwide holiday, so Hunt's low-key Halloween Questline seems just right IMO. I'm thankful to not have a super grindy event so quickly again and am happy to not be constantly hunting for points.

[somber harbor]

hope we get a halloween hunter next year and it's a pierrot-esque clown

swamp clown now

I demand it

[tawny meadow]

The fact that a lot of people got "burned out" by the previous event is probably one of the reason we have this questline as a "filler" before the next big one, in my opinion

[somber harbor]

I hope the next event includes questlines that also contribute to the progress of it

instead of being solely hunting down macguffins

[tawny meadow]

A mixed mechanics would be cool

[somber harbor]

it's like how fortnite's battle pass encourages you to use weapons that you're not 100% good with nd keeps it fresh if you wanna finish it

and of course there's players that would cry about having to use a winfield instead of a mosin sniper but that's on them for acting like this game is properly competitive esports tings

I do wish they'd remove the inflict status effect quests though, they're too inconsistent especially the poison one

antidote shots just make that one painful to do if you're not super early on it

[tawny meadow]

Some quest are a little bugged, some are a little meh, but i think that's a step in the right direction

[elfin zephyr]

Yeah poisoning people took two days for it to finally show up in the quest that i actually poisoned people.

[tribal wyvern]

They did atleast have something to do with Halloween.
Doing Summons is hardly halloween.
And my point was to actually make the event feel more halloween

Oh i gotta poison, burn, kill like i've done since the introduction of summons ? Yep, halloween is here bois.

Summons/Twitch questline was a good different mechanic.
Doesn't mean Event has to become summons aswell.

You can actually have different mechanics for different parts of the game

[pearl summit]

maybe u have a point

[knotty ore]

The quest line implementation is more work than it is fun. The quests are awful. Completing them is a chore. I know they are not going away, but I hope they die.

[signal mural]

I would rather light 6 Hunters on Fire than gather another thousand snakes.

[knotty ore]

Yeah, but you still have to gather a thousand pumpkins in one game to proceed. Unless you skip that quest to do an even worse quest.

[limpid umbra]

having 2 people split up and run around the map squashing pumpkins isnt hard

its 12-14

Very do-able

[tribal wyvern]

Problem is making the event summons based is repeating the same misstakes

People got bored of the repetitive events, doing the same thing.
Now summons, questlines & events are identical, doing the exact same thing again

[limpid umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

based?

[tribal wyvern]

People are going to get bored of summons just as they got bored of the reptitive events.

[limpid umbra]

Tru

[signal mural]

Even 16 Pumpkins was easy by comparison... 'X damage in one round with X weapon' were terrible, even worse with that Stalker Beetle. But being able to ignore the worst ones and still get the chapter done makes a world of difference. That and a lil' bit more variability and not so polarized in difficulty like the Billy Questline.

[strange cliff]

I think if they're going to have quest lines they should get rid of summons. Instead of having quest lines for events have something like event bounty bosses. I think im less likely to care if I see them reusing the same holiday bosses if it's only around for holiday events. For Halloween it could be like a scarecrow boss that throws pitchforks. Well I'm not saying to use this as a boss idea as I just thought it up on the spot lol

[tribal wyvern]

But summons are questlines.
They're identical.
The only "difference" is that Questlines have stages.
Questlines would be fine if you did something related to whatever the thing is.
So a Billy questline could be to use weapons he used or get kills/dmg with weps he used. And kill monsters/bosses that he did.

But it's just summons x7 or however many stages there are

[sharp veldt]

@heady spruce Could you please expand a bit? So I can properly pass on your feedback 🙂

[heady spruce]

I choose europe but the game puts me on Russia or Usa. and the ping is always orange or red.

[fathom geyser]

if you play with friends, its the host who needs their region set properly

also, make sure you have no secondary region set

[heady spruce]

I choose only europe. I checked that always

yesterday it worked but sometimes the ping explodes again and I have no clue why lol, even at europe

[fathom geyser]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[sharp veldt]

Okay thank you for the information 🙂

[solemn bough]

Did something change with the double barreled shotgun over the last few updates? Just had a game where I couldn't kill 3 players with 2 consecutive shots (for each player) within ~10m radius (I know because I died to a pump shotgun at 6m).

[knotty ore]

The quest system isn't terrible, its what the quests want you to do that's annoying and a chore. Why not make fun quests like, "spend 3 total minutes in VOIP with enemy hunters". Or, "set off 10 noise traps". Something actually interesting instead of, "shoot hunters and make sure you don't shoot them in the head because if you do you get nothing, l0l".

[sharp veldt]

Is this relevant to what I asked Hades? Am I missing something??

[knotty ore]

Oh naw just my own feedback. I legit didn't see his name tagged in it. My brain just ignored it. Slack ruined me. Its not orange so its invisible to me lol

[sharp veldt]

Ah understood. I was very confused 😄

[burnt mulch]

nope.

[lethal dirge]

Flechette piercing dog armor is dumb, it already has worse pen than buckshot. Stop trying to pierce helmets with a shotgun, goober

[queen jungle]

@hasty frigate There is already a "Play again" button for QP in the post-match screen

[hasty frigate]

Even after you die?

[queen jungle]

That button puts you right back into the queue

[hasty frigate]

AHHH never saw that cheers tho

[queen jungle]

I have noticed that servers go down frequently. It makes me think how much processing is being offloaded to the servers instead of the clients.

[steel dawn]

👀

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[frosty garnet]

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Gamemode: Hunt Showdown 

Double the hunters and slightly larger map with two normal bounties and a large bounty as a new boss, so you can take 2 bounties and the large "trophy bounty"

You get 3 tries a week to win atleast once or die trying. Large amounts of loot and xp and rewards that change weekly like new hunters skins bbs etc if you are the winning team or solo winner, you can take 3 bounties altogether or one or the main one same as the other teams can take those.

You extract through a special tunnel system that's filled with revenants which are previous hunters who died by the borders lore wise who are mini bosses basically.

The revenants can also spawn in areas that had a lot of hunters die in the compound in the day or the week that can spawn the mini bosses which are dead hunter AI more intelligent and powerful.

More tweaks can be made but this is what I been thinking about to make the game more fun and interesting in the future with more rewards and higher difficulty for hardcore players```

[austere crown]

If u think custom ammo is best thing what hapend to this game u are probably righte for casual players and pve players.

And it is lame if custom ammo is best thing becuse then u are saying there is nothing good in 4 years beside custom ammo and u are probably righte agine.

[knotty ore]

Since now there is a place to enter codes, can I get a code? I feel like we should all get a code.

I've tried down down right right A B A B

[unborn dagger]

Custom ammo in the game is great and I'm glad it was added in.

[broken skiff]

Yesterday night I finally completed my last quest and unlocked Mama Maye. I am honestly very very happy of this direction. Summons can be hard to complete, and most of them really put you out of your comfort zone, but I believe this is what Hunt is about!
I am mostly a solo player, with a stealthier approach, and yet this questline made me try out new strategies and gameplay.
On top of that, we were not forced to finish every summon per quest act, which is a huge bonus in my opinion.
Thank you so much Crytek for this amazing event!
Here's the moment of unlocking Mama Maye with explosive damage 🤣
https://streamable.com/mdbbp1

[frosty garnet]

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**Topic: Dark Sight Echo Location**

**Description:** An injection to cause synesthesia to see all sounds in darksight, including monsters, gunfire, fire, poison, running sounds. Add a trait to focus some of the sounds into something very useful for tracking hunters. Unlike Bounty sight which sees hunters in movement, sounds would be fixed locations needing a constant dark sight refresh. - Tweaks for improvements are welcomed for debate.

I feel that dark sight is severely underutilized in this game and could add a variety of different tracking mechanisms.```Attachments:
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[signal mural]

@pallid nacelle The are addressing the EU ping issues in the #pc-announcements Tab

[soft river]

custom ammo adds a lot more depth than what there was before

would you rather have every gun have one of 4 ammo types

with 4 others being specific to certain weapons

[soft river]

and only that

if anything

less ammo types appeals more to casual players

because theres less to learn

and less to learn how to counter

[spice topaz]

Or is "hey cool stuff" for a casual taking a look and only annoying for a regular player. Who knows. Other than I know I wouldn't miss any custom ammo but people are strange and different.

[soft river]

why do you not like custom ammo

is there a particular reason

@spice topaz

[spice topaz]

Is there a particular reason to like them? They are mostly annoying (which actually leads to people not taking them if not just trolling) if not "toxic" in nature (a team that has won a fight is left with burnt bars due to dragonbreath and some people head out in that situation). Then there are straight up upgrades that probably should be detuned a bit (mostly FMJ but also slugs and I guess hv even though those just throw my aim off personally). And then I guess there's only flechette left which makes aiming optional.

[soft river]

wow he hates the whole suite of special ammo

considering hv and fmj are already packaged into most long ammo guns

[spice topaz]

I don't hate them, I don't need them

I do use FMJ because why not?

[soft river]

fire ammo is really not that good

db is good

but like

the other fire ammo

its not great

flechette gets rid of one shot without hs

[spice topaz]

Incendiary is shit. As I said only annoying.

[soft river]

just get salveskin

[spice topaz]

There is no need. Incendiary is shit, just annoying.

[soft river]

if its shit

how is it annoying

maybe you're just coping

and should learn how to counter it

[spice topaz]

There is no need to counter it, it is just annoying. If you would catch my drift.

[soft river]

i don't catch it

at all

[spice topaz]

In other words most of the special ammo is redundant. If that makes it easier.

[soft river]

i still don't see how its redundant in any way

it adds to the game and doesn't take away

certain special ammo have their own problems

like slugs and spitzer

but the rest are perfectly fine

[spice topaz]

Oh yeah I even forgot spitzer. The pinnacle of exploiting weaknesses in game design and optimization.

That one isn't redundant but only negative to the gameplay

[elfin zephyr]

Special ammo does add to the game no doubt but, I find it stupid you have to have dum dum ammo to make people bleed because i guess a regular bullet wouldn’t do that. Incendiary ammo needs to hit a hard object to ignite it not soft body tissue. Let me load this glass vial of poison into a gun and shoot it, somehow the pressure generated when shooting it doesn’t make it break but hitting soft body tissue does. Slugs have a max range of 25m is laughable.

[royal horizon]

you can't expect that level of realism from a "fantasy" video game. It Hunt was realistic, guns would jam up all the time and shotguns would be absolutly broken

[crystal plume]

There's also a different between realism and authenticity, and Hunt's direction is more towards the latter than trying to be ultra realistic

[royal horizon]

Some updates ago, shotguns used to have integrated bleed. If you got hit with buckshot, you bled. It was neither fun nor realistic

[royal horizon]

I agree with this, just because a game wants to be grounded on some level with reality (historic weapons and such) doesn't mean it has to be ultra-realistic

[normal horizon]

bleeding from getting shot isn't realistic? 😮

[royal horizon]

I mean yes, but FPS games don't make you bleed from getting shot

[signal mural]

Yeah, but certain bullet tips are designed to cause more entry or exit wound damage - like hollow points.

[royal horizon]

yes, that's why we have dumdum, right ?

[signal mural]

Exactly.

[royal horizon]

I still don't quite get Nixa's comment, what would bleeding from getting shot add to the gameplay / realism of the game ?

[signal mural]

Incendiary light upon firing hence the tracing streak and the need for multiple hits to ignite targets.

He just means any gunshot wound bleeds.

[royal horizon]

yes

[signal mural]

I'm just saying - depending on the bullet type- some much much more than others.

[royal horizon]

true, but it doesn't necessarly translate to gameplay

[signal mural]

Yeah, but the special ammo implementation does add different strategies to gameplay. I think that statement is easy to validate.

Granted at a certain level of experience lots of Hunt's finer details are easily filtered out as useless tactics.

[gloomy blade]

@coarse geyser that isn’t half the size, that’s a fourth of the size. Waaay too small imo

[coarse geyser]

U right I did some dumb math, maybe a 750x750m map

[knotty ore]

Taking 90% of your health in damage and then bleeding seems pretty stupid when its from a flachette shotgun from medium range. Headshot multiplier seems off.

[stray horizon]

I mean if that's what you're on then are you upset that med kits and vitality shots exist?

[main cradle]

I’ll be blunt

[viscid grove]

#game-ideas message @crystal river Turn off the lamp, break it, then hold f. You would be able to grab then, even through the object. I've done it before in Sawmill. There's a spot in there that I killed a dude and big brained the same way. Got a Crown & King from it.

[main cradle]

Dum dum is really just SP

[elfin zephyr]

Incendiary doesn’t light when fired, tracer rounds do that and are vasty different than incendiary.

[elfin zephyr]

Far from upset and im on nothing. Was just pointing out the obvious.

Also never said special ammo should be removed

[sacred sparrow]

Tbh, if anything, they should just add more custom ammo, or remove the single shot weapons and stuff. They're in there from when the game was kinda different than now. Now it's mostly RNG and just doing crazy stuff, it's just a different game. Some people can't let the past go, and that's understandable. But fully embracing the rng memery would at least remove any ambiguety concerning what the game wants to be. Now it's kinda in between 2 worlds and players at both sides just tend to get frustrated.

[plain yarrow]

For a solo player in duo/trio lobbies, what would be the best sniper to bring? Sparks, Springfield, mosin etc?

[elfin zephyr]

The reason people dont like rng is because it requires no skill. The fact you can consistently hit shots at 40m while hip firing is ridiculous

[sacred sparrow]

100% agree. it IS bullshit. but it is the direction crytek chose for their game. that much must be clear at this point. i started playing in 2019. you had to aim. now you can just, as you say, consistently hit shots at 40m with rng. but with every mechanic crytek adds, it's clear that this is the direction they want to take their game. just going full-on at this point makes more sense.

[elfin zephyr]

@sacred sparrow going full on is not the answer, trying to cater to CoD and apex players will only rune the game further. You rarely see rng in 6 star lobbies so i dont have to deal with rng unless im playing with some of my friends that are not that great at the game.

[sacred sparrow]

You know we'll not get the game back into a state before this rng was added 😉 also, i've played 5/6 star lobbies for 3 years now, you know damn well there's also rng and spam there 😄 come on now, you know better. Anybody can get any star rating nowadays, so it doesn't mean anything.

If anything, them implementing custom lobbies where you can allow/disallow certain weapons/weapon combinations/traits,... would enable people to play games they like and avoid whatever they see as bad or not fun. But I doubt we'll ever see custom lobbies.

I'd love to be able to just play games where dual wielding/fanning/levering/dolches/avtos aren't possible. Just some sparks/winfield/springfield/vetterli/whatever games. No redskull revive. That would be insanely fun. Not gonna happen though.

And that's why they might as well go full on, and just be very clear of what hunt is for them, and what audience they want to attract.

[elfin zephyr]

Anyone can get six star? Lmfao delusional

[sacred sparrow]

You can laugh all you want, but it's not hard

Depends on how they play of course 😄 Not everybody can get to 6 stars while playing the game "normally", like going for objectives, taking fights, not using spam or shit. That's quite a bit harder. But you've played enough, so you've seen more than enough players that you knew damn well got there by sitting in a bush waiting for somebody to pass their crosshair, get a kill, leave. You'll be 6 star in no time like that. Not saying that's cool or anything. But anybody can do it.

[fluid locust]

my 0.8 kd friend got 6 star before. it's really not hard lol

you just have to kill a 6 star or a few 5 stars. keeping 6 star on the other hand is hard unless you play very ratlike

[dense schooner]

well, getting 6* and consistently maintaining 6* are two different things

[elfin zephyr]

If you played in 6 star you know damn well its long ammo or shotguns 90% of the time

[sacred sparrow]

Exactly. Getting there is easy enough. Staying there is hard, since almost anybody that kills you will pull your mmr down

[tawny tangle]

What dont you like about gumbo event?

[tawny tangle]

You too

Cowards

[elfin zephyr]

Im a coward because i didn’t like your idea? Acting like a child will get you no where. The idea sucked, good enough? Or do i meed to elaborate more. I would rather see them fix bugs in the game then add content.

[tawny tangle]

No i was saying coward because i wanted a quicker response lol

[sacred sparrow]

Also, he tagged somebody else entirely

[tawny tangle]

Obviously beside bug fixes (which is expected) im looking to the future of the game and if youre not open to discuss it then so be it

[tawny tangle]

But i was calling him out too

[sacred sparrow]

"I would rather see them fix bugs in the game then add content." that i can agree with for sure. a new boss or map or a new weapon that has 90% overlap with something else gets old fast. but getting that crazy list of bugs down to a sensible size would be nice

[sacred sparrow]

ok my bad 😄 well, it's one way to get attention I guess 😄

[tawny tangle]

It works at times as but its hard to convey proper emotion through text

[sacred sparrow]

true. it also doesn't guarantee a good open conversation, when it starts with calling somebody a coward 😄

might not set the tone that well

that could just be me though

[tawny tangle]

And if bro goes into the suggestion tab and dislikes everything bc its not bug fixes then whats the point? Devs dont ever hardly look at that tab anyway

[tawny tangle]

Depends how they choose to read it

[sacred sparrow]

lol yeah... I guess I'm not with the times anymore, I thought energy towards just hating on something for the sake of it is kinda energy wasted, but it's a thing nowadays. To be fair, there's some weird suggestions in there 😄 but to downvote everything, I don't know. That's kind of a conviction that's maybe better outed otherwise 😄

[sacred sparrow]

well you just said "cowards" 😄 so there's not a lot of room for interpretation in there :-p

some added emote might make it less of a black & white thing 😄

[tawny tangle]

Im just spitting out ideas in suggestions to create a discussion but when you just go in and dislike because “id rather have bug fixes” :eyeroll:

[elfin zephyr]

Yep i dislike everything and if the devs dont read it why are you posting there.

[tawny tangle]

To create conversation

[sacred sparrow]

Yeah fair point, I'm sure at least SOMETHING is done with those suggestions. At the very least it sparks some ideas that reach the dev team eventually.

[elfin zephyr]

Imagine name calling like a child because someone disliked your idea. Way to “create a conversation”

[tawny tangle]

Lets take a step back and restart bc you misinterpreted my faulty message

[sacred sparrow]

Anyway, disliking literally everything (if you do that), is KINDA pointless and petty. But calling somebody coward to spark a conversation is probably not the best idea either 😄

[elfin zephyr]

Some ideas are great some are terrible

[tawny tangle]

Why do you dislike my gumbo event besides the need for bug fix?

[sacred sparrow]

For sure, for sure

[tawny tangle]

…In your opinion?

[elfin zephyr]

It has nothing to do with a bug fix for me down voting it

[tawny tangle]

Ok still, why dislike it? Its basically the past events but with a new utility added to it?

More stuff to collect. Was it specifically the rewards i scrambled out?

[elfin zephyr]

A cooking event in a FPS lmfao

[tawny tangle]

It fits the lifestyle of Louisiana

Where does mashing a pumpkin effigy come into fps?

Its not a far off claim imo

[elfin zephyr]

Collecting peoples souls and bounties is all we need

[sacred sparrow]

To add to the conversation, I read the description of your gumbo event too. Yeah, it's slightly funny, kinda fits the lore just a bit. Or a bit much. The thing is: whatever the event, whatever the theme, that's just candy wrapper. What you actually DO in the event should be something that pushes you more towards the objective of the game. Getting clues, killing bosses, getting bounty, fighting, that stuff. The events should stimulate that and reward that a lot. I don't really see that in your event description. It's cool variations for AI and stuff, and it sounds kinda cool. But the thing is: that's probably a lot of work invested for separate AI skins, just a one-off, and it really doesn't add a whole lot. So although the theme is kinda funny and cool, it doesn't really add towards the gameplay loop, and it has a silly note to it too, which I don't think hunt needs, since it's become an arcady meme western spam shooter already, which I don't love

[sacred sparrow]

Basically this in a nutshell :-p

Still not gonna actually dislike it though, since I can't be arsed to go click dislike on every or any suggestion that's in there 😄

[tawny tangle]

The older events had some sort of side objectives and even this halloween questline has secondary things like kill hive with fire or armoreds, my event could have obj like “destroy chicken coops” or “collect corn bushels for event currency”

So it still fits with gameplay but makes you detour slightly if the opportunity arises

[sacred sparrow]

I'm not loving the detour stuff, I like people to move towards objective, but I'm not hating it either. As long as the main focus and rewards go to the main objectives, I'm just fine with people picking corn to get a legendary skin easier 😄

As long as I can ignore it, I'm fine with it 😄

The main thing I really dislike about the current questline is that it "forces" you to play with certain ammo and shit, that I really hate. Using a certain weapon, SURE, but forcing me to use poison ammo and shit, nah. I like to choose my own loadout thx.

[tawny tangle]

Its only a slight detour same as like halloween where maybe you see hive you need to burn, during gumbo youre near chickens so you tag their coop on the way out.

I agree to a point where “do 300 damage with poison/bleed” is wack. But my suggestion is really just a 5 minute idea and i think that it obviously needs work. I also know that ive butted heads with the majority plenty so Like-said its mainly just a discussion

[elfin zephyr]

Side quest in a fps game is pretty dumb imo. I don’t want to go around and collect shit in a fps game that has nothing to do with the core mechanics of the game. If i wanted that i would play skyrim

[sacred sparrow]

Yeah exactly. I think with these questlines though, they'll get less and less fully fleshed out events like in the past. I think it's a lot of work for them. These questlines, however annoying they are, don't miss their effect of giving people shit to do and playing different stuff. Yes I hate it, but so many people (me as well) still did them.

[tawny tangle]

The main push of the game is side quest tbh, getting clues is only there to push people together

[sacred sparrow]

I do feel that as well :-p

[tawny tangle]

Im think more of a tarkov where youre think more call of duty search and destroy

[sacred sparrow]

Well I'd say getting clues, yes, that's to push people together, but that's not a "side quest", that's a core component of the game.

[elfin zephyr]

Thats a big negative

[tawny tangle]

The core is pvp fps. The boss fight is hyper unnecessary, it’s beneficial to do it but you can go it kill a group and extract and be in positive

[tawny tangle]

@elfin zephyr

Clues and boss drive players together causing gunfights or atleast a sort of interaction

[sacred sparrow]

I get what you mean, you interpret it as a side-quest. I just see it more as the main thing that makes pvp happen. We're kinda meaning the same thing but look at it differently. But sure, yeah, the main thing is pvp, and the pve component of the game is just there to enable that and make it more likely. That's basically what all these extraction shooters do right. A more natural non-immersion breaking mechanic that pushes people towards pvp, instead of an artificial "shrinking ring" that break immersion

[tawny tangle]

I can say that every game if i could just go without getting a clue, and get right into pvp action, id rather do that

The one life mixed with the hardcore gunplay is electric

[sacred sparrow]

I do like the way EFT does it more though, with everybody being on potentially different quests, and having to cross the map will cause people to run into eachother. The thing is though, the current EFT quests are actually JUST the sidequests once the game is fully released (in 2038 or so 😄 )

On a side-note, I do look forward to EFT arena, just using the gunplay and mechanics, but just purely focussed on pvp. That could be awesome.

After x wipes, you kinda max out your hideout and traders really quickly since you know all the quests and shit, and it starts to get real old

but ok, let's get back on topic before a mod slaps me around for mentioning another game :-p

[tawny tangle]

Lol, my boys discuss frequently. I hope that the extraction shooter genre explodes bigger than battle royales and they copy the eft formula more often than not. Marauders and Cycle look insane as well as this new dark and darker game

[sacred sparrow]

yeah i'm liking marauders, it's fun. but man is it early days for that game. same for dark and darker. but yes, i'd love extraction shooters to explode in popularity, even if it's only so that SOME game devs (UHUM crytek) feel the pressure and can't just slack off because they're the only game in the genre 😄 so yeah some healthy competition is good

[tawny tangle]

Pvp is fun but if i just wanted to kill people then id be on CoD every day. The slow paced buildup to hunts epic gunfights is what keeps me coming back. So if there was a chance to catch players more commonly outside compounds then i think thatd be neat.

Thats where the events were useful, they brought back the player-base AND made people slack around a bit longer at times

[sacred sparrow]

one thing that most of these extraction shooters do have as a weakness: contrary to battle royale that FORCE fights with that shrinking ring or something similar, the "freedom" you have kinda brings out the coward in some, and attracts people that obviously don't play a lot of shooters and play this game as if it's Hunt: The Dark Project. crouchwalk and passivity gallore. so although that clue-mechanic and the boss and lore is a nice immersive wrapper around "making fights happen naturally", it does allow TOO much freedom in my mind so that people just mess around. if there's 50 people on a map, i don't care about 5 dudes doing nothing but sitting in a shack. when there's 12 though, it's really common to have 30% of the people on the map to do nothing. and that weighs on the fun for other people to. i'd like to see that issue tackled

[tawny tangle]

I have a few guys that are VERY passive, hoping for dead lobbies and afraid of players that they think can swag on them. Ive told them, if you ever want to get better use weapons and push fights bc experience is key.

Yes generally you can assume 1 team plays like pansies but in a way that makes the times where all 4 teams are fighting in 1 compound even more epic. I would like to see a speed round sort of deal but i know they don’t want to add more game modes to divide the player-base even more thin.

As hunt is the only option i have as and extraction shooter on console id just like for it to fill some of the gaps that other games created. Which is selfish but i still want it

[sacred sparrow]

yeah well, that "spread the playerbase too thin" excuse has grown old now, they used that for years. at some point, you gotta invest to be able to grow. people grew old of the previous events, the current questlines aren't terribly exciting either, and a new map or boss is old after a few weeks.

hey, it's fucking 5am here, so i'm off to bed mate 😄 don't want to just cut the conversation short, but i'm dozing off :-p i might react later to whatever you type next if there's no 567 messages regarding another topic after it :-p

[tawny tangle]

Lol gn

[stray horizon]

@tawny tangle hard yes to the gumbo event, screw the bounty time to collect them crawdads down in the bayou

[tawny tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-dance-funny-dance-michael-scott-dance-danse-marrante-debile-gif-21385827

[stray horizon]

anyone down voting clearly lives somewhere they ain't got gumbo

[tawny tangle]

Dat dem bohs down inta bayou gumma make dem sum G U M B O

[stray horizon]

yaaaaaawp

[tawny tangle]

Punnina bigole POt inen pussum waddah innit

Yoowee

Crawdid cook real slow

https://tenor.com/view/swamp-people-gif-10970735

[atomic cipher]

@glass fractal Many valid points but, whether ppl agree with them or not, it is what it is. As you can see we still have the same lead devs... so nothing will change.

[bold valley]

Thought it was a missed opportunity that for a game so centered around swamplands and bug monsters, we dont have anything that references mosquitos

[royal grove]

Schoot er lizbef schoot er

[signal mural]

I meant in-game about incendiary... but yeah IRL is different. In Hunt they function like tracers and low grade incendiary together.

[elfin zephyr]

@signal mural wasn’t sure if you knew. Some peoples gun knowledge is only based on video games.

[loud flume]

https://youtu.be/QWjGHPk5j_U

Fix hit detection on pc please this is pathetic

[glass fractal]

I agree, my friend. I agree. Sadly.

[frosty garnet]

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Hunt need another badass looking marksman winfield skin```

[queen jungle]

@feral cosmos Your description sounds like you are experiencing an issue with your ISP's routing to the Hunt servers. If re-starting your modem doesn't change anything, try contacting your ISP so they can investigate.

[opal isle]

Please remove the drones from the game! wrecking the game for no reason.

[queen jungle]

@opal isle nope!!!

[tribal wyvern]

@little badger
All maps have equal chance to be the one you play.
Your last 6 maps are irrelevant.

Present the last 100+ matches you've played and they'll eventually even out to 33.33333% on each.

They could do a specific map rotation, but then you'd always know which ones coming & i think that would make it far more boring.

And again they've removed the choice to choose because of population

Same with bosses & time of day.

[little badger]

i know but we have an all time high player peak and we still growing why we get not back the chosen contract, we are the community we are pay for her life , then lets do play the game we want it to play.... desalle ist is the most unbalanced map , the fall damage on desalle is broken as f.... in her last poll is desalle only vote from 33 % of the hunt player the best map the older maps togter get the rest votes , it show me many people hate the map ... so many people left the map match to q for a new map. and what is the result of the match missing more players which in turn reduces the gaming experience for these players
and crytek has the numbers how many player left the match on desalle early , but i think crytek wnat show the numbers because then they would admit that the map has not become good

[frosty garnet]

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Titel :essentials for competitive and fair play```

[tribal wyvern]

I mean 33% is a third of the votes.
So how is that a bad % when theres 3 maps.

That does not show you that ppl hate the map, that shows that atleast 1/3 likes 1 of the 3 maps.
Which means either the other ones got the same % or one of the older ones got even less %.

And wheres your data that ppl are leaving the map? I don't think anyone here besides Crytek has that info, besides they're changing the older maps ALOT which means they're pretty bad, otherwise every compound would not get an overhaul.

[stray horizon]

@sick wind I mean take an antidote side if it bothers you so much boo

it's 20 minutes for the large one that's a pretty large portion of the match just take it at the outset of any engagement and you'll be fine

[signal mural]

I like parts of every map. The polls didn't ask for your favorite map rather your top 3 compounds per map and least favorite 3 compounds per map, right? I didn't see the data posted anywhere so IDK where these supposed stats are coming from. I know which areas I don't like but I never really post about it because I figure it is personal preference.

[tribal wyvern]

@odd geyser
Please no more one tap weapons.
It's enough with the ones we got. How bout we don't punish ppl more for dyin once.

[bold valley]

Idea for a spicy throwable roomba. The intended use of which is to chuck 1 or more into a building to cause a minor but prolonged mobile hazard for the occupants.

[odd geyser]

If that's how you feel that's fair, It doesn't have to be a damage increase but I wish the Centennial was at least on par with the vetterli

[tribal wyvern]

It has other advantages. Like velocity.
But ye i just don't want more weapons that can onetap. Infact i wouldn't mind reducing them.

My philosophy would be to increase how far dmg carries & reduce more weapons below 125

It would reduce long ammos power. It would make compact/medium more reliable.
And it would not make you be like "lets extract" the moment u die once & lose 25

Cuz u hear long ammo in the distance

[fossil kiln]

Loves the quests and stuff

But if there is a time limit and different guns/ammo needed I feel like I won't prestige or I should stop as it slows down my quests

[bold valley]

The wind up mine's job would be to create uncertainty. Since the easiest way to avoid having it go off on you is to hold still, it can cause someone to freeze up when they'd otherwise move. But since its on a timer, they'd still be advised to put some distance away from it.

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[still moss]

WTF is going on with the shotgun hitmarks???

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[queen jungle]

@willow crow .44 magnum didn’t exist in 1895

[willow crow]

But the bomblance did?

[queen jungle]

Bomblance is a little funny thing called made up

.44 magnum is not made up

[willow crow]

I'm sorry, I though we were playing a fictional game that is loosely based in reality

[queen jungle]

I also don’t see a point to using it with the stats you laid out

[willow crow]

It doesn't have to be exactly a 44 magnum smart ass. It could just be a powerful revolver like my suggestion says

Well then don't use it. This game isn't only made for you.

[queen jungle]

It seems like a middle of the road performer between the Uppercut and hand Xbow, the Sparks Pistol exists

[willow crow]

Sparks pistol can only fire one shot, a revolver has more than one shot. That's why it would also be a special ammo weapon to not totally replace the sparks pistol.

Spark pistol could also have better range capabilities

[queen jungle]

It just seems odd to me bc I have a hard time picturing a pistol between the hand xbow and the uppercut bc the two weapons are just so different

I also don’t want another pistol that can onetap down a previously killed hunter

[willow crow]

The only reason I compared the two was to illustrate that it can do high damage at close to medium range, but it outshined at very close range by the hand crossbow (assuming we're only talking about small slot weapons) as well as at long range by the uppercut

So don't make it a one tap, easy

[queen jungle]

No bullet weapon aside from nitro should onetap

(And shotguns but they fire shells)

[willow crow]

I'll say it again, so don't make it one tap, easy

[queen jungle]

I’m also confused bc now we have a gun that functions at mid range

But medium ammo is also a thing that exists

And medium ammo has variants, while the pistol you suggest is very rigid

Sure high damage is neat, but if it’s not flexible it ain’t worth much

Look at the Nitro

[willow crow]

Do I look like a dev to you? I suggest an idea and I can offer some ideas as to how to balance it, buy it would ultimately be the place of the devs to make it fit. That is not your job and you definitely don't know more about the game's balamce than the devs. How about instead of trying to complicate a meager suggestion you spend your time trying to be a problem solver.

You keep saying you're confused, but I frankly don't care if you have the mental capacity to problem solve

[queen jungle]

…you could also have just as easily ignored me and we could have moved on with our days…

[willow crow]

Now that's the pot calling the kettle black

[queen jungle]

How so

You don’t owe me a conversation

And vice versa

I just happen to have nothing better to do rn

This channel exists to discuss suggestions

I like to talk about ones that I find interesting enough to spend further time on other than press a button

[burnt mulch]

the uppercut is kind of.. already the "powerful revolver"

idk what the comparison to the hcb was for, since it serves a completely different role.

it's like saying "I want a gun that's halfway between a mosin and a romero"

[signal mural]

A Slate with slugs?

[queen jungle]

Probably a berthier pistol. 3 rounds of long ammo that's good for medium range, poor at long range compared to the sparks and uppercut. But the role it fills will be the same as the other medium ammo pistols, except it can shoot a little bit further.

[main cradle]

The 44 magnum round was invented in 1954.

[odd geyser]

what would your opinion be on reducing vetterli damage specifically?

[burnt mulch]

would remove one of its defining features over the centennial.

[queen jungle]

The vetterli currently has so many defining features over the centennial to the point it’s a bit sad

[main cradle]

Just raise the cent damage.

It’s a beefy gun, make the damage beefy

[queen jungle]

Give the centennial 125 damage

(And/or dumdum ammo)

[main cradle]

That would be amazing

Maybe a mace sorta deal as well? Like a heavy blunt damage variant

[queen jungle]

No yea that would be cool

[royal grove]

Ooh, centennial with blunt damage would free me from the knuckle knife

[crystal plume]

@hard snow Just posting an image is not feedback, and bug reports can be posted in #bug-reports-pc

[tribal wyvern]

No more 125+ dmg weapons.
Give cent something else, something that makes it better ranged.
Like allow its dmg carried further or something.

We don't need more "haha fakk yo for dying."
Infact we'd need less.
Vetterli losing its 1tap potential tho on a downed @odd geyser , im not sure.
I'd have to compare them, because Vetterli does have downsides in comparison. For example is the high velocity you get.

But i think vetterli could have the 125 instead.

However if we're doing that. I think we need to implement the idea i had about dmg being carried further in general for both compact + medium.

[royal grove]

I think the falloffs largely make sense but I would like to see a transition to a more realistic ballistics model without sharp turns and a damage floor in the graph

[odd geyser]

a melee damage attachment would be my absolute favorite way to buff the centennial

[odd geyser]

yet the centennial is more expensive 😔

[odd geyser]

this is solely my experience but when I play them the vetterli just has so many advantages that the muzzle velocity doesn't feel like it justifies the centennial being a more expensive gun

[royal grove]

I will say the sight picture is a lot better on the centennial even if imo the front sight is a little too thick

[odd geyser]

I may prefer the centennial sights over the vetterli's a bit to but the vetterli's sights have never been a drawback to me, just "not as good"

[royal grove]

I'm not a big fan of the vett to be honest

Sights and action just feel off for me. Perfectly usable though

[odd geyser]

I'm not either really but everytime I play it it seems to turn out better than with the centennial

[royal grove]

Would rather take a officer carbine with the same rof and damage tbh

[odd geyser]

same rate of fire and damage as vetterli?

[royal grove]

Yeah

[odd geyser]

hmm

[elfin zephyr]

@acoustic dirge lmfao stop pushing people with shotguns. Thats how you counter them its pretty simple.

[unborn gyro]

This game has shotgun issues, big time. There is no point to play other weapons than shotguns.

Shotguns are strong at lower ELO but higher ELO you more commonly see long ammo. Play to your loadouts strength. Each have advantages though some could argue that long ammo has far fewer disadvantages.

[unborn dagger]

The guy has a hard time trying to not push shotguns when he has something like lever action

[brazen shoal]

shotguns don't fire shells, they fire "shot" that is packed into a shell.

[boreal jacinth]

does anyone know if cryteek plans to add the DX12 or VULKAN apis ?

[elfin zephyr]

Yes and no, shotguns with rifled barrels are meant to only fire slugs or pumpkin balls. So are they even shotguns at that point? What about cut shells where you fire part of the shell and shot?

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expanding from 𝒦𝒶𝓂𝒶𝒹ℴ 𝒯𝒶𝓃𝒿𝒾𝓇ℴ's idea i dont think there should be types of ammo knives
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[brazen shoal]

shotguns are shotguns

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[humble knoll]

Lol

[tribal wyvern]

@north onyx
Dunno bout explosive barrels but Sticky bombs do rending dmg like Frags, not explosive.

@unborn gyro
Team 2 is very low 5 stars. They're on the edge of dying once & going down to 4 star.

[signal mural]

@dull prawn Cool ideas, I would be pleasantly surprised if any of the ideas got incorporated though. I think some are stronger than others but I feel like there is a large part of the community that sees the PvE elements as only a nuisance, detracting from the PvP.

[atomic cipher]

what would you estimate (% wise) this large part to be?

[queen jungle]

@wispy fulcrum Like the idea, but it'd probably need to be even lower (0.25 or so)

[wispy fulcrum]

xp is xp so if got added id be happy

even if it was like 0.01

[signal mural]

Hard to say, but based on the responses to previous Ideas & Suggestions, I'd estimate at least 35-40% of the active Discord Community are PvP-mongers. That's not to say that the other 60-65% are stictly PvE fans, far from it.

[main cradle]

Most likely it’s true 35-40%, then there’s like a 2% that are like strict PVE, then the rest are like:
“Eh, least I’m getting gun XP.”

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[jovial lodge]

@upbeat axle reposts of the same idea are against the rules, sorry!

[fossil kiln]

Loves the quests and stuff

But if there is a time limit and different guns/ammo needed I feel like I won't prestige or I should stop as it slows down my quests

[raw forum]

Damn, the most bad event ever, stfu choke immolator quest cant complete in 3 hours, rly Crytek? 0, Absolute ZERO respawn of immolators when I need to complete the quest

[main cradle]

Uh

Mobs don’t respawn during matches

[karmic ivy]

@gritty root I think you are just getting carried away with it. I don't see what you describe. I don't see posts about
"Got threads - feedback and bugreports completely full with same bugs everyday that you are not able to fix withing 2years a not able to implement ideas what really player want is ridiculous"
I see the opposite, I see new bugs getting fixed, perfomance increaces, QoL improvments, players that are happy with the experience and the game is growing steadily.
And personally I am very satisfied with my purchase of Hunt and excited to see where it goes in the future. Maybe you should talk to tech support, you might not be experiencing the game like the rest of us.

[atomic cipher]

From my experience with random players or with friends who played Hunt in general... I'd say 90% don't care about PVE side of the game.

[gritty root]

OK try to vault through bottom window in church on DeSalle map 🤓 enjoy

[main cradle]

Mind giving us a clip tho?

[karmic ivy]

Thank you, I will. Hope you find a game more to your liking.

[ashen shell]

you must be new to the game or I dont know 😄 there are bugs that are here since the game was release and they are not fixing them ... instead they are hiring new graphics and not developers to fix them but bey have a great time playing this game 🙂

[crystal plume]

Damn that's crazy

[main cradle]

Damn that’s crazy

[crystal plume]

21 roles for programming/engineering, 9 for art/animation and 14 for design/content

And I assume some roles can have more than one open position

[signal mural]

Hmmm... I mean 35-40% are more militant about PvP. They ask for things like longer Extraction times, no extraction without Bounty tokens, decreased PvE spawns, no PvE quests or challenges, and so on. I personally like the PvEvP element a lot but find the 'E' elements often too easily circumnavigated. I love PvP encounters where there some element of the Environment challenging the Hunter factions - either in positioning, relocation, stealth, or direct pressure.

[karmic ivy]

Why is that? In fact I am not new, I have been here since scrapbeak and will probably be here till they close the game. Hunt is the best take on a multiplayer FPS game I have ever found, and I have played more than a few. It is not for everyone, but it is very well made and well thought out. Has the best gun fights, hands down.
All games have bugs, and gamers have always been able to enjoy gaming. I don't know why you speak so much about them not fixing bugs, they fix a TON of bugs every patch. Like I said, some players want something else, maybe you are not the type to appreciate Hunt. Good luck.

[elfin zephyr]

Lmfao some bugs have been in the game from launch. Got to love all the white knights here

[main cradle]

Average feedback discussion

[spice topaz]

Bugs from the 1.10 release notes:

Fixed 25, remaining known issues 68. After this two hot fixes to fix the most game breaking bugs like charms not carrying over after prestige and black market not reshuffling.

And how many new bugs and old bugs reintroduced?

Funny enough the quantity of known issues on 1.9 release was also 68 while the list of fixes was impressive 199. On 1.8.1 release notes known issues racked up to 60.

According to these numbers you could say that tons of bugs get fixed. But at the same time at least the same amount of new issues appear.

[gritty root]

THX @spice topaz 🙂 ... something for you @karmic ivy

[night quarry]

hi crytek, avto and nitro have still problems with broken reloading, this is few monts, maybe its time to fix. Thx

[upbeat axle]

Yeah yeah, whatever. It's not like anyone reads more then 10ish posts up.
So maybe your repost rules are skuffed. Its not like im spamming the dang channel, i literally post maybe once every 2-3 weeks, advertising for Pax high velocity, medium ammo buffs, etc.

[jovial lodge]

Thanks for the feedback, I'll share it with the team for discussion. In the meantime, we gotta enforce the rules as they are

[radiant iris]

soooo doctor ended up being a lvl 11 trait... BUT the bow is still 50+ WTF crytek ?!

[main cradle]

I don’t see it as that big of an issue

Like ones a weapon and ones a trait

[radiant iris]

how tho?
one is an overpowered perk, the arguably the best in the game and the other one is a weapon, most people dont even use, yet the perk is WAY faster available than the weapon?

that lowkey makes no sense

[main cradle]

Dude, that’s the thing.

One is a weapon and the other is a perk. They aren’t on the same playing field

[unborn gyro]

Just want to second this. #feedback message The random team lobby maker needs a lot of work. It's punitive and generates poor matches (I've seen random lobby throw 3 star in with 5 star). Players will just SIT and wait for someone to leave to avoid the penalty so you end up in this game of stalemate/chicken. If someone isn't ready in 30 seconds auto punt them and apply the penalty to them.

[queen jungle]

There should at least be the option to exclude certain mmr in match making options. Place a warning sign to people that if they can´t find a match they need to revert the settings and it´s their own fault if they can´t find a match. Is actually really easy to implement.

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[atomic cipher]

what is so crazy about it?

[crystal plume]

In response to the person above claiming that they hire more for art and such

[atomic cipher]

gotcha. though I don't know how it would make any difference in any case. it's the lead who sets the tasks anyway

[radiant iris]

they literally are, its called bloodline progression

[late wind]

@queen jungle what weapons to you consider "heavy or unwieldy?"

[royal horizon]

I guess mostly the Avto ?

That would be the only thing I see

[queen jungle]

nitro

N uppercut

N sparks pistol

Oh Avtomat too

I’d also imagine some long ammo weapons to be rather heavy like the Sparks, maybe not the military rifles tho

[late wind]

You know I asked that looking for a fight and honestly I'm surprised. That's a reasonable answer.

[tribal wyvern]

Skillbased matchmaking lol

EU

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[elfin zephyr]

@foggy vault i just bought the headsman skin for 1500bb, i have spent 0 dollars on bb you can literally earn them in game. Saying 1k for a skin is too much is laughable. When its not a third person game like fortnite do hunter skins even matter?……No unless you want to support crytek.

[dense schooner]

I also got headsman for 1.5k

I literally cannot even spend money on the game because it is not available on my PSN store.

[burnt mulch]

@half stag i think that actually makes the terminus distinct. it’s kinda “stand your ground” as the cost of having what’s basically a cheap crown. And you can preserve movement if you ads, which is sometimes what you want.

it fires much faster than slate w levering so idk about that particular comparison.

[half stag]

You might say it's unique, but the problem is you need 1. Traits and 2. The slate fires "fast enough" with only 1 less shell and doesn't need bulletgrubber. So for the average player, they'll naturally gravitate to the slate as its much easier to use. Especially notable as the slate got its price increased with the recent patch, while terminus went down, and given that it was based on usage rates . . .

[burnt mulch]

I don’t think the difference between 58 and 100 rpm can be appropriately covered by “fast enough”.
bulletgrubber is a meh, it’s not really required imo.
I think Terminus is appropriately powerful at its current price point.

in fact if we’re gonna talk easy to use, Terminus levering flechettes is the easiest to use “rifle” in the game.

[elfin zephyr]

Rival with slugs is king imo.

[burnt mulch]

i mean yeah thats pretty strong.

besides, all the movement stuff is at a higher level than what a newbie might care about. point and shoot is about the easiest and straightforward as you can get

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[daring isle]

Allow Nvidia filters if you are going to allow reshades. Who makes the decisions over there?

[tawny meadow]

@royal horizon It would be unsafe to sprint with the spyglass on!

[subtle merlin]

hmmm feedback..... simply click the the event details button.....

[dim stump]

Has anyone seen people sliding after death?

[coarse hearth]

Yep, it happens now and then...

After over 2200 hours in Hunt, I have to say it's in the worst shape it has ever been in. There are so many bugs on live servers right now it's ridiculous.
-Reloadbug in every weapon
-Ammo disappearing when you pick up a weapon
-Stuttering when entering a compound
-Stuttering when enemy Hunters are close
-A lot of the questlines do not register! (Set X on fire/Poison X/ Use this X times)
-No hitmarkers or extremely delayed hitmarkers whilst having a ping of 14
-Getting shot behind cover - no wallbangs, just super delayed servers
-AI acting all weird (running past you/not reacting to being meeled etc.)

I am forgetting things... but this list on it's own is a shame! What the hell is going on?

[tawny meadow]

Reload bug is not as present as it was before the last patch.
Ammo disappearing is a visual bug. After one shot with that weapon, it's visually fixed.

[coarse hearth]

Nope, sorry just flatout wrong information. The reload bug is even worse than it has ever been. And the disappearing ammo CAN NOT BE FIXED WHEN:
You pick up a one-shot-rifle like Springfiled or Sparks and the last shot was fired (barrel is empty) then you CAN NOT reload or do anything about it. That weapon is useless. May even be with any weapon that has an empty barrel/magazine - just noticed it with one shots...

The actual state of Hunt Showdown is a disgrace - and there should be noone defending it! The devs need to see this and do something about it!

[tawny meadow]

Yeah with one shot weapon it's a problem, but with the other is bypassable. Since the last patch i had the reload bug just a couple of time and i run single shot weapon with two kind of ammo a lot. So i guess you got unlucky.
I'm not saying that there are no bugs, and rest assured that the Devs are aware of the current situation.

[coarse hearth]

Also... "bug is not as present as before" can not and may not be a defense/argument for anything! It's a bug - there is just one answer. Fix it.
I'm a software developer myself. I know how it feels. I know how frustrating this can be. But I am also grateful for every bug that gets reported.
I just don't understand what the problem is. Does Crytek not have versioning and a solid code management like Git or something? I mean, so many bugs make a return after a few patches, they just get patched back into the code. And sometimes a patch causes issues where there should not be any. It seems like a lot of code is so intertwined, no single responsibility, that changes always have unintended consequences. And no, sorry - I can not rest assured. I am playing Hunt since january 2020 and it's in the worst shape ever. This damn reload bug should be fixed. But it's alive and annoying for, what now? three, four months? What is going on?

it's a shame. I love this game. I have never ever played a game more than 2000 hours. But my two partners quit because of the latest state of the game. And I am very frustrated with it, too.

[queen jungle]

The game always stuttered when nearing a compound. All monsters load in at that time, AI takes over. It's a huge map with a ton of AI, it's going to have issues.

[coarse hearth]

Also, not true! Sorry dude. But this was fixed! It also doesn't happen on every machine, so it is clearly NOT the loading of mosnters. My brother had it half a year ago, constantly - I did not. Then ti was adressed and fixed. And since last patch it does this now for me and my buddy but not my brother. Also if it were the case with what you said it would stutter once - not every single time, for every user that steps into a compund, that statement just makes no sense.

[worthy knoll]

Agree.
For some time the stuttering consistently told my friend when Hunters we're nearby

[tribal wyvern]

Revived players not taking dmg is also there.
Twice a guy revived with like 10 hp has taken pax shot & spark shot.
They did not die.

He even had my spark poison on him, but still had 20 hp

The game is having insane amount of bugs atm.
Started in 1.7 & is just getting worse

Also wasn't reload bug since like 1.7 patch which is in January

Making the reload bug 10 months old

Found video of it 6 months ago atleast.
So it was here since 1.8 for sure.

[ancient mountain]

Is this on PC? Haven't come across it on console

[tribal wyvern]

Should affect all platforms.
But def on pc.

I've had my mosin just put in infinite amount of bullets while the bullet UI just shows 1 bullet being put in & vanishes.
Spark/spring/romero/crossbow not putting any bullets in, thinking you reloaded so when u shoot it just clicks

Psycho had a video, where he was just sitting and watching his pax being reloaded by idk 15 bullets & never filling up.

[ancient mountain]

Sounds extremely fucked up, I'm curious what even causes that to happen

[tribal wyvern]

Don't know, they fixed it but then they made lematt spammable with its shotgun.
So reverted it

[soft river]

@prime orchid fool no one wants unique guns, they want their obscure bolt action no one cares about

kidding but we should see guns like this