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burnt mulch
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they both accomplish the same goal..
I wanted to do all 3 from the start.

trail carbon
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He wasn't insulting you, first of all. Second of all, he did say so from the start

solemn bough
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ofc you did

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he did

trail carbon
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When

solemn bough
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When he kept repeating about "how hard is it to understand"

burnt mulch
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lmfao

trail carbon
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That's because we were confused as to how you were not understanding

solemn bough
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And how does this statement help you resolve the confusion

trail carbon
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By asking

burnt mulch
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"what are you not understanding about this?"
better?

solemn bough
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What answer would you expect? "It's not hard to understand" That's a lot of information

trail carbon
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This, however, is an actual insult

solemn bough
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really clears the confusion

burnt mulch
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it's.. not really that much information.

solemn bough
trail carbon
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Does that make it right? Or does it make you look foolish?

solemn bough
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Neither

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it did not

burnt mulch
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sorry, but you're not the one who decides how you look, it's the people that look at you.

trail carbon
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Are you serious right now

solemn bough
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I feel fine. A little frustrated but otherwise fine

trail carbon
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Anyways...

burnt mulch
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weird.

ripe basalt
trail carbon
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I think I like your ideas for concertina

burnt mulch
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k

solemn bough
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not that they are bad, It's just there are too many of them

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For the love of god, please make a gun charm that is a cut off ear. Idk it would just be a bit fucked up and cool and would fit the game```
burnt mulch
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there is such a thing as making changes incrementally from multiple angles.

trail carbon
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A... reflection?

ripe basalt
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Alright. We can stop antagonizing now

trail carbon
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Thanks Izo.

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Anyways, potato, I think I like the melee extension the most of the three

burnt mulch
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I just want to actually be able to break concertina consistently with something other than my face

trail carbon
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Yeah

burnt mulch
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and a bomblance I guess.

trail carbon
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What if concertina didn't give a slowness debuff

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Keep it's damage and whatnot, but that way its less of a free kill because someone decided to push

burnt mulch
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I feel like that messes with concertina traps being used as actual traps.

trail carbon
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Well, the poison trap doesn't slow you

burnt mulch
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well the poison trap is shit SmugEddy

trail carbon
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Should it be buffed?

burnt mulch
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eh probably. the only time you'd use a poison trap is in conjunction with a concertina one.

ripe basalt
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Poison needs better implications

trail carbon
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I dunno, I think it accomplishes the purpose of discouraging pushing through an entrance, while not completely preventing it. It does this poorly, but it does do it

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But poison does suck

burnt mulch
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the cloud itself discourages pushing, yeah, but triggering it.. is very weak.

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like walking over it

ripe basalt
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Poison has a direct counter that can be in trait form and in item form

burnt mulch
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what if they made it a hive trap

trail carbon
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Yeah, I think the initial damage should be more

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Ooh, that'd be interesting

trail carbon
ripe basalt
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Poison should be persistently applied if directly git

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Hit*

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No different than bleed

trail carbon
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Like it sticks to you? Like Dark Souls 2 poison?

ripe basalt
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If you proc it via trap or cbow

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Yeah

trail carbon
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I think that's a good change

atomic cipher
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@steady estuary Ouch.... I do hope you like the t-shirts and the sweater so it's not completely wasted money after all. But yeah, the event was not designed for an average player. Was it a mistake/miscalculation? Taking into account their previous actions I do not think so. But personally I would restrain from spending money on the game for a support reason alone. Sure if you like any particular dlc/skin and you do not care, go for it FabCheers But otherwise me personally = not gonna waste anything till there are changes made.

trail carbon
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Maybe not too much damage though, since you wouldn't be able to stop it like bleed

burnt mulch
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wdym like bleed tho? like have a DoT?

ripe basalt
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Yeah. I'm on mobile at work

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So my replies are small

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Lol

burnt mulch
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hm.

ripe basalt
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But yes, centralized attached dot

trail carbon
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I think it's interesting

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As it stands, poison is the worst damage type

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Wait no

burnt mulch
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they'd probably have to reduce the initial damage of the hit again.

trail carbon
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Explosive is

burnt mulch
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I still think incendiary is worse than poison.

ripe basalt
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Outside of DB

trail carbon
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Ammunition? Yes. Fire in general? Eh

steady estuary
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the money that gone into the battlepass feels "lost"...beside this every penny was well spent in this game..

trail carbon
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Fire damage to health bars lasts longer on average than the poison effect

steady estuary
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thats what tastes sour for me

burnt mulch
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explosive has the explosive throwables (lul frags)

trail carbon
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Yeah, but bulwark exists

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What if we got rid of bulwark?

burnt mulch
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I feel like randomly getting an antidote shot and eating it is way more common than someone randomly getting bulwark

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console would implode.

trail carbon
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Yeah, but I hate bulwark

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Well I've been advocating separate patches for forever

burnt mulch
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speaking of imploding, bomb lance should still kill a bulwarked guy

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like let's be real

trail carbon
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Yeah

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Hardest skill shot in the game

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Haha nope

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Still alive

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Plus it takes a full second and a half to actually kill

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Separate question, potato, how do you feel about Legendary Hunter Quests?

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I don't know if you saw my suggestion or not, but I put it in there earlier

burnt mulch
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I think it's probably too generous in terms of legendary hunters.

trail carbon
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The alternative idea, yeah, but I mean the initial one

burnt mulch
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ah

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I think the "unique event" bit might be hard to do, depending on how gamechanging it is.

trail carbon
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Yeah, I thought about that. The only defense I have is "it'd be cool"

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I just think it'd be neat to play through the story of the legendary hunters.

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I know we kinda have this with trials. But trials suck and aren't interesting

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They also don't really add anything to the hunters they are associated with

burnt mulch
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yeah I'm just not sure how that would slot into a bounty hunt match, and Hunt's PvE in general just isn't very inspiring at its core.

trail carbon
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Yeah, that does suck.

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It could be somewhat similar to how Tarkov's quests are. Just not have them be progression tied. I don't know what you would unlock for completing these, but I like the idea

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The only big problem I see with this is that you can't choose what map you're going to. So if you need to go to prison on Lawson and you get Stillwater 5 times in a row, that'd be frustrating

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Wait I have those backwards

burnt mulch
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🤔

trail carbon
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There

burnt mulch
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it's an interesting idea. not sure how it'd work.

trail carbon
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Yeah, I just kinda threw it out there without too much thought

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Dunno how I'd feel playing Hardin's quest

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But I think most of them would be cool

steady estuary
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does someone in charge of crytek read or answer the feedbacks?

trail carbon
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They do read them. They added the bow after all

burnt mulch
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alamo and sporks were both suggestions from here, I think.

trail carbon
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Yeah

burnt mulch
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though sporks was usually a martini henry.

steady estuary
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so in case heres my offer..gimme the penitant 4 free and i'll forget everything negative and my spent money feel worthy again 😄

trail carbon
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I doubt that'll happen

burnt mulch
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I wouldn't randomly tag people outside of the discussion like that

trail carbon
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Aw c'mon man, don't ping them

burnt mulch
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but hey, you learn for next time.
the reward track stuff is applied retroactively so you can buy it near the end of the event if you think you can finish.

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and if they're gonna do this BB for event track thing in the future, might be a good idea to stockpile BBs early.

steady estuary
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sorry im kinda new to discord.. you guys are right. i bought it last week to unlock all i gained to this day but i didnt tought this to end..

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thought*

burnt mulch
trail carbon
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Yeah, I'm not really happy with the way this event was handled

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Less than 10% of players finished the event

burnt mulch
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to be fair, it seems to have counted all players that collected any event points at all, or maybe even all players in general.

unborn dagger
burnt mulch
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so it's hard to say exact %s of people who wanted and tried to finish the event but couldn't.

trail carbon
burnt mulch
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you go to chary's hunters or something in the event tab and it shows you the amount of points to be in the top x%s

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top 10% is barely event finish numbers of event points

unborn dagger
trail carbon
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I was the only one in my group of 12 close friends who play hunt a lot who finished the event

burnt mulch
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I managed to do it a couple days ago. it was kinda rough.

trail carbon
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Yeah, same

burnt mulch
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had to really plan it out.

trail carbon
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How many hours did you play during the event?

burnt mulch
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honestly idk.

trail carbon
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I did 140

unborn dagger
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I was just really uninterested in the skins they were giving out. Especially the hunter, kinda meh

trail carbon
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Which is crazy to me

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1/20th of my playtime was on a single event

burnt mulch
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I stockpiled a bunch of boosted legendary hunters so they'd get +4 from Chary and bought serpent on all of them, and I spammed them when the contracts procced. Serpent was really really strong this time around.

trail carbon
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Yeah, that's what I did

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I solod and waited near the boss lairs until the scroungers came after the bounty left

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That way I got their points as well

burnt mulch
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lmao

trail carbon
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I felt a litte bad sometimes

burnt mulch
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I just ran it down. Time spent fighting slow and repositioning was time that I wasn't getting points

trail carbon
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Yeah

burnt mulch
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die fast, kill fast, get points

trail carbon
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My go to loadouts for rush down gameplay is specter flechettes and a LeMat

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Surprisingly effective

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New Army is also pretty good instead of LeMat

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But the LeMat just clicks with me for some reason. Always has

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My friends hate me

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90+ meter double headshots with the LeMat, then I miss 5 shots with a sniper

burnt mulch
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I was running dual nagant silence poison and something random in the other slot, to kill AI and bosses faster.

trail carbon
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I just shoot the ai with whatever I have

burnt mulch
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chad lol

trail carbon
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No point in being quiet if I want players to come to me

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Easily got 90+ points every 20 minutes

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If a camp fest began, I spammed all my consumables at them hoping they'd die

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If not, I left

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Hate to see campers win, but I did t have time for waiting game

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Fmjs on the LeMat bug the way

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Gotta be able to wall bang

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Bring an ammo box and 3 frags

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Because regular explosives aren't gonna clear concertina anyways

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Quick question. Does anyone actually like the way frags are currently implemented?

burnt mulch
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I think frags are ok-ish? could be toned down a little but explo could probably just get some more utility.

trail carbon
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What if they got removed? Who'd complain

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I don't like how they can kill someone from 16m away, and simultaneously not kill the guy who was standing on it

burnt mulch
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seems consistent enough in my use of it

trail carbon
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Just yesterday I was standing next to a frag and took no damage or bleed

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Super confused

burnt mulch
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I've had dynamite seemingly glitch into a wall before, maybe that?

trail carbon
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God damnit I don't have the clip

burnt mulch
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ah shit I actually gotta work now, fun talking tho

trail carbon
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Alright, see you

upbeat crane
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Does the Conduit change + magpie give diffrent buffs or can you get unlucky and just get stamina buff longer?

trail carbon
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Uknown, as the update isn't out yet, though I would assume the latter

manic vortex
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I imagine you can still get Stamina with Magpie in that combo but that doesn't necessarily make it unlucky. There are situations where that extra time on stamina would be useful

queen jungle
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@somber glade If 50% of teams manage to outplay you and escape, that sounds like you and your teammates need to work on your strategy.
I don't see a need to punish people for getting away without a fight if they clearly manage to outsmart you.

ripe basalt
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Plus, plenty of the Extractions have LOS. Sure, there's a few that are pretty closed off. But that's a minority of Extraction points

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So you don't need to be at extraction to prevent extraction. Only in the situations where you can not down someone

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somber glade
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If bounty is at Goddard for example and they spawn on it with extract behind them and my team spawns at hemlock, they end up on extract by the time we pass Lawson, how is this a failure on my part? And as another example for why your take is crap, I said it works for them 50% of the time, not that 50% of teams do this, this means that half of the people who try it succeed, luckily most people don’t, either you have low comprehension skills or your goal was to low key insult me, either way you sound ridiculous.

somber glade
ripe basalt
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"From people who clearly do not even understand the point".

Says who? Who is to say that I do not understand your viewpoint? I too, at times, find certain extraction scenarios problematic. Is Extraction timer the solution? In my opinion, no. I added additional information ontop of Finalls reply to you. At no point does that insinuate that I do not "understand".

Just because something is situationally a struggle, doesn't make it a wider problem to apply to all other cases. A flat increase to extraction is not a solution to situational issues with extractions.

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At the rate crytek keeps pushing for faster paced hunt matches they might as well give me the guns I purchased skins for right off the bat whenever I prestige.```
smoky hull
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put a time limit on the Bee

trail carbon
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I think a distance limit would be more effective

smoky hull
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Time AND distance limit

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The Hard to see at Distance tho

buoyant haven
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Make it blurry the further away it is and if it goes too far it wanders off

buoyant haven
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@unborn sandal Idk man, the gun just never made sense to me. I guess the ammunition thing could work but also put a crappy sight on it or something. Maybe also increase recoil

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Or even make it special Ammo

visual moat
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it said i got 6500 hunt dollars but never said i got 300 blood bonds and i was in like the top 5% ?

hexed shale
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Does anyone know the effect radius of explosive ammo? And what sort of damage it does

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QUICKPLAY Mini Rework:

I have some suggestions that could make it a little better than now..

1 - Change the way trait system works in Quickplay.. the most annoying thing is always having an useless trait; make it a choice out of 3 instead of beying full random.
2 - Remove the animation at the end... let me loot the hunters and guns.
3 - If someone quit the match, he gets punished and couldn't play for 5 minutes (also works for Bounty Hunt).
4 - Make it impossible to start the game with dualies, make it a pattern by people always starting with a Tier 1 revolver.```
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visual moat
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i thought it was 200BB and 100BB

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but ok

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my bad

unborn wadi
# somber glade If they would prevent people spawning on the boss people wouldn’t have the probl...

Bruh, sounds like you’re not good at the game. There is enough time to haul ass across the map the moment the bounty is banished, assuming to don’t screw around with anything else.
Further to that, if you’re worried about them running, fire a stray shot. A shot is enough to make most players get to cover.
Further to the further, block extraction! Flank around between bounty team and extraction. That’s the most basic thing in the game!
To summarise though: Git Gud

signal mural
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@wary hinge Although the slingshot tool isn't a bad idea, it feels unnecessary because decoys fulfill that already - granted you cannot gather them for free but a bag of what 12? seems good. Not to mention a slingshot makes a distinct slap sound which could be audible. However, a tweak to decoys could be good... like holding alt in a noise trap (glass or cans) could allow you to refill your decoys so you don't "waste" a toolbox.

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empty canyon
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unborn wadi
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Yes, excellent. Thank you. This one in particular was my favourite.

trail carbon
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@buoyant haven Gun nerd here, sorry to say, but the first fully automatic firearms were made in 1884, not 1914. The Huot may be what the avto is based on, but there were several automatic firearms before it's time. The first automatic firearms were the Maxim automatic rifle invented in 1884, and the Ferdinand Mannlicher in 1885. Then, the Cei Rigotti which was invented some time between 1893 and 1897, then it was extensively used in WWI. There is also the Chauchat, patented in 1900 and used around 1907. Not trying to antagonize you or anything, just information that I think is interesting, as most people wouldn't assume automatic rifles existed so early. They just weren't very popular because they were unreliable.

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Oh, the Lewis gun as well, in 1911

quick kettle
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Don’t forget the Colt M1895. Or is it Browning? I don’t remember. It’s colloquially known as the ‘Potato Digger’

buoyant haven
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What's the Ferdinand mannlicher?

trail carbon
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Oh right, totally forgot about that one

buoyant haven
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The first gun is a stationary manned gun

trail carbon
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Never fire one, if given the opportunity

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Actually

buoyant haven
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Why?

trail carbon
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Same goes for all the guns on that list

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But the Ferdinand gets really really hot really fast

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And it can uh

buoyant haven
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Chauchats fun to use in bf1

trail carbon
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melt

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Automatic gun pre 1950? You're asking to die

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Unless it's a Browning

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Those are good guns

charred pine
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I can forgive avtomat for being a conversion, Dolch is fine even if 1896, thought first it was later so oops

buoyant haven
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MG42

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They still good

charred pine
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Bornheim > Dolch anywho in fashion and gunfeel

trail carbon
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Dolch is 1896, it's one year off

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Not too happy though

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Just set the game in 1896 if you want the mauser

buoyant haven
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I like bornheim

queen jungle
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I would say this is an alternate universe cause demons haven't invaded us yet

buoyant haven
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It's sick

charred pine
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Oh I somehow thought it was 1900s, dumb me

trail carbon
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The Bergmann No.3

queen jungle
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so 1 year off is ok

trail carbon
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I guess...

charred pine
trail carbon
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I dunno

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Demons would make me want better gun

charred pine
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I dont like the "demons so everything can be different"

queen jungle
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I would say that parallel universe runs very closely next to ours so the variance is minor

charred pine
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I think the whole demon thing was pretty lowkey in the general knowledge

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If I remember the lore correctly

trail carbon
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Well, the New York incident did happen

queen jungle
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I mean, sure, we could have demons in our society right now

trail carbon
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Can't really hide that very well

queen jungle
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spiders in manhattan and the coverups

charred pine
queen jungle
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the pandemic, a huge demon invasion coverup

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That red sky, isn't from forest fires...

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It's a portal...

trail carbon
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E1M1 starts playing

charred pine
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I do want more funky weapons like conversions or OG like the gunlance

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Enough long ammo rifles, give me something funky that fits the game

trail carbon
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I wanna know how they got their hands on Nitro powder for every gun in 1895

queen jungle
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You mean slapped together weapons specifically made to fight demons

charred pine
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Yeah, guns made for the demon fighting or tweaked with to fit the prey better

trail carbon
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Nitro is a good as you get for demon killing gun

queen jungle
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You'd think they'd have an auto crossbow by 1895

trail carbon
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Do... Do we have an auto crossbow in 2022?

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I'm looking that up

queen jungle
trail carbon
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Hate it

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Put it back

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They all use that flywheel design and it hurts

queen jungle
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It's a prototype. he didn't make it look nice yet

trail carbon
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But

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I

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Dont

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Like

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Hate, Red

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Completely off topic, but I really like that they put a silencer on the only revolver in history that could have a silencer fitted to it

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Oh, excuse me

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suppressor

charred pine
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Yeah, I appreciate that a lot too

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Silessor

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Supprencer

trail carbon
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I think it'd be funny if we got a suppressed SAA that just... Wasn't quieter at all

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Speaking of suppressors, did you know that in real life, suppressors actually increase muzzle velocity?

wooden smelt
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Avtomat has been nerfed 2-3 times in past. Stop crying endless

elfin zephyr
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@trail carbon it doesnt always increase muzzle velocity, there are a lot of variables ie barrel length, powder used, design of suppressor

somber glade
unborn wadi
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Oh this’ll be good haha

somber glade
unborn wadi
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Nah, you just want to complain that you’re bad at the game. Go practice

trail carbon
somber glade
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@wooden smelt console wouldn’t have a big enough player base for that

inland wolf
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I think there should be a way to add players cross platform that way I could bring some players to buy the game

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Discord region ranks and player type ranks.

I really had a great time find people on the server. And often been doing chill lobbyes and noob friendly lobbys.  One problem i have encountered is not all players reads your LFM in the [#eu](/guild/350201607788429323/channel/408378454061350913/) etc.

The suggestion is to have discord ranks the indicator what region you que on and type of player you are maybe a "beginner friendly" or   "highly competitive". It would let players that are in here kinda have a idea when they click on your name for the steam friend code. 

Region rank are rather simple just EU, NA WEST/EAST, Russia, etc

Just dont give permission to @ those ranks.

Pros
would enhance discord experience. Make players that want to tryhard or chill do that. 

Low dev time 


Cons:  
im not sure 🙂 

Thanks for reading.```
queen jungle
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@quasi sun AI density wasn't increased since early access. In fact, some AI was reduced quite a bit in the past, for example hell hounds.

elfin zephyr
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Seems there are far more AI on console vs pc

wind stream
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that is also not the case

quasi sun
queen jungle
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No AI definitely got reduced and less functional (alert).

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Makes sense since most players play this for pvp than pve.

charred pine
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"I feel like" yeah, good backing

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I feel like I havent noticed it

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And tbh AI actually being an obstacle is a good thing

wind stream
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its their purpose

balmy sparrow
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Their only purpose

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Why u gotta take it away

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You cruel people

charred pine
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Also XP for free

elfin zephyr
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@wind stream have you played on console and pc? There is a different from my experience of playing on both.

quasi sun
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These are some older videos before DeSalle was in the game.
If you just watch the first 5 minutes the compounds and the lands between almost seem empty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aQKbr545rQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ5zEiGRMr8
Maybe the AI just got more aggresive so the whole compound comes at you at once, I don't know, but something is different.

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Trash_Jackson
Hunt Showdown - Full match, but no bounty

I was going to just contest the bounty guys, but then my brother signed on, so I decided that I had done enough damage throughout the match.

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Hunt Showdown - Another full match with Hotpeppers

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charred pine
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If they have increased, the current one is nice

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Wouldnt mind even more

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Thousands, even

queen jungle
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PVE players always want more AI and harder bosses. PVP just want to fight all the players, never letting them extract even if they don't have a bounty.

unborn dagger
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Pve can stay as is and even if they doubled it I'm sure their ductaped engine will blow up.

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Small feedback / idea - For running in teams --- would it be possible to make each player have a different color outline / colored dot on the map and have your teammates names listed on the map when you pull it up.  --- Currently with everyone being a blue dot on the map, and just a blue outline it can be hard to tell which teammate is where. 

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Player 1 is blue on map and highlighted.
Player 2 is red on map and highlighted
Player 3 is green on the map and highlighted

When you press TAB to open your map they show in their own colors and it shows a table / legend on the side that shows each player on your team's name.```
atomic cipher
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@marble shore I wish they addressed the fact that the event was not for casual player. But the only thing I found regarding it was a brief mention during the dev stream (QA after the beetle reveal). And that mention was not even a useful answer, just a generalised "we are looking into it", which helps no one.

odd glacier
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So I don't know if it is just me but I keep getting server error every time after the new update. any buddy is having the same problem by any chances?

queen jungle
burnt mulch
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@lethal silo I'm pretty sure the reason they don't let you take Starshell on multi-shot shotguns and reduce the capacity is because of server load.
but neither "buff" really makes starshell any better, you just get more of it.

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queen jungle
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stray horizon
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that would be fire

queen jungle
burnt mulch
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more like it'll set the servers on fire lol

main cradle
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It has a range of 1000m

Downside?

1mv

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unborn wadi
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@naive ledge nothing. Pretending it’s not a problem.

charred pine
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@hasty fern Glad to see another plushie connoisseur 🙏

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charred pine
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Im curious why people are disliking a ping wheel, because it would help randoms out? Discord users can just ping and say "crows" without anyone hearing them. "Just use vc or text chat ingame" yeah and make your presence known just for pinging a trait? "Team up on discord?" Not a solution 😅

lethal silo
burnt mulch
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yeah but that's like buffing compact ammo by making the bullet disappear further away.

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pretty sure you don't use the flare gun for shooting people either

rigid basalt
signal mural
rigid basalt
charred pine
rigid basalt
signal mural
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Yeah, there are other reasons aside from the fact that I view it as unnecessary. If anything an updated ping icon for various things could be nice. But I've never been a fan of the wheel selector- it is better implemented on console than PC IMO.

rigid basalt
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true just adding automatic ping-icons would be an other solution cause we already have it for boxes&co so why not add it for crows,meatheads,amoreds,hives,grunts&co

signal mural
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I'd be happy with simple color indicators even.
For example:
White/red as usual with yellow as sound traps (ducks/crows/sticks etc), blue as ammo/health, indigo as envelope, and orange as enemy AI.

rugged iron
queen jungle
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I feel like people should wait to actually play with Dave the Beetle before they start suggesting changes HUL

charred pine
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*Larry

queen jungle
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It's officially Dave.
And Dave allows me to actually contribute to a team fight by giving my team Intel instead of making holes into the environment with my rifle.

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It's really versatile and useful in my experience

somber harbor
charred pine
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Im hype to try him out

charred pine
somber harbor
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We don't need another button as congested as it 😂

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So many times you'll wanna open a window, door, or climb a ladder and you'll start your reload at the same time

charred pine
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console sounds horrible

stray horizon
stray horizon
somber harbor
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Europe tho 😩

queen jungle
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@quasi sun I don't think increased AI has caused more camping. Whether there is more AI or less, sniper campers are going to camp because of how their weapons work. Now the issue here is whether sniper campers have to clear an area first, making a ton of sound in order to camp. Those going for bounties are going to kill grunts regardless of how many there are and don't care the sound they make.

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quick reef
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get rid or reduce manasyphoners area by 50% at least

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this shit makes me wanna quit the game forever

rigid basalt
somber harbor
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the only difference is aim assist

queen jungle
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@ruby laurel Lately Meatheads have been chasing even if you aren't poisoned. But I don't think it's a bad change. Before this "bug", Meatheads were safe. You avoid the worms and you don't worry about the big guy attacking you. It's boring. Every monster should have a risk of potentially killing you. That's why the grunt rework is amazing. Carrying torches and I accidently blow myself up because they fell down on a puddle of oil. It's Great!

somber harbor
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for example, explosive ammo got nerfed and bulwark got buffed not because of pc but because it was an issue on console

burnt mulch
somber harbor
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any change that becomes an issue to one platform will also affect the other platform is the way to look at it

burnt mulch
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add rebinds, then?

somber harbor
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so even if a ping wheel was accepted by the devs if it couldn't be implemented on console they wouldn't go through with it

somber harbor
rigid basalt
somber harbor
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because controller lacks a scroll wheel

burnt mulch
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really cant see how every button has a different function tbh

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isnt the equip selection a radial menu?

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thats just one button

somber harbor
# burnt mulch really cant see how every button has a different function tbh

x jumps, circle crouches, triangle changes weapons, square reloads/interacts with world items and elements, R1 opens the weapon wheel, L1 pings and goes into dark sight if you hold it, R2 attacks, L2 readies your weapon, R3 is ADS, L3 is sprint, left and right on the dpad are tool and consumable hotkeys respectively, up on the dpad toggles aperture sights/turns lanterns off .etc and down unmutes you from game chat, then the touch pad opens up the map

burnt mulch
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change weapon button and tool/consumable hotkeys aren’t fully necessary buttons, neither is “ready weapon”, depending on how you set up your controls.

somber harbor
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yeah and if you use gunslinger R3 becomes your melee

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while the hotkeys aren't necessary the QoL they bring is immense because of the weapon wheel bug that has existed since launch where occasionally the game won't change to what you select on the wheel

burnt mulch
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allow rebinding of holding a key to activate something else.

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holding the aperture/lamp button to darksight for example

somber harbor
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if only

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crytek don't put that much thought into console

burnt mulch
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if they dont, then add a ping wheel SmugEddy

somber harbor
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we only have 3 set control schemes with a hunter variant lol

burnt mulch
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just dont enable it for console ez

somber harbor
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just don't enable it for anyone

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😈

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sinply solo

burnt mulch
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i mean i dont need it. would be nice though

signal mural
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The ping icons are almost illegible anyway. I would prefer less hard-to-read icons, not they increase the size of the icons or something to where pings become a nuisance. Regardless - more ping variety and a ping wheel just means more - UI work & programming and in the current state of the game I find that a poor use of dev time & resources.

somber harbor
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there's far more pressing matters with pings anyway

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being that they don't go transparent when you're aiming over them

queen jungle
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@sturdy dove I would have agreed with you to remove infinite red skull revives, but there are so many campers who don't go for the bounty at 5 or 6 stars. If you remove more perks, no one will ever fight boss.

queen jungle
signal mural
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I think them burning a small life bar to revive a (red skull) dead ally would help balance it better.

burnt mulch
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it would also make randoms less likely to red revive

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than they do already

sturdy dove
sturdy dove
stray horizon
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wtf is Quick Swap

signal mural
stray horizon
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unborn dagger
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queen jungle
# stray horizon wtf is Quick Swap

There used to be an issue that allowed players to very quickly switch to and shoot their secondary.
The result of this was that you couldn't move from cover to cover since people with Mosin/Uppercut were able to two-tap you within a second.

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@queen jungle i think you idea is create but i would limit it on grunts and that there spawn on some points many of them - that start walking towards the banishment of the boss maybe - to counter outside camping a bit - and so that there is more dynamik

trail carbon
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@wooden smelt Long ammo is the strongest ammo type in the game by a long shot, and you want to rebuff it?

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Sorry, but quick swap meta wasn't any more fun than current meta

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Might even be worse than current meta

wooden smelt
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now days you need campy playstyle to make it work

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long ammo dont one tap we cant qs = we cant push

unborn smelt
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It's almost like there's a downside to bringing only sniper weapons and a pistol to fuel them...

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When will you guys finally do something about friendly fire? I enter the server and get killed by some random for no reason at all . The fact that you guys don't give a shit about cheaters is known to everyone so by grace and at least after the first kill by an adopter let the damage RETURN TO HIM. This is how it works in rainbow six and call of duty . Does it hurt you guys so much to implement this?
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charred pine
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sarcasm sorry

wooden smelt
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long ammo camp is not fun to do myself but you need this playstyle to make it work as current

unborn smelt
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Please refrain from tagging developers or CM's that aren't currently active in chat.

somber harbor
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just run sparks

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best gun in the game

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people will always camp in fps games regardless

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doesn't matter if quick swap is in the game or not, they'll camp until a mechanic is introduced that forces them to stop camping

wooden smelt
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Kd farmer will continue camping but most long ammo users will stop if qs is back

trail carbon
trail carbon
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You never need to camp to make a gun work

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It always makes it easier, sure, but that's true for every loadout

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But camping is ultimately a crutch that makes the game more bland

wooden smelt
trail carbon
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Nobody uses the nagant carbine because it's garbage and isn't long ammo.

wooden smelt
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Like I said as current state you need to camp. You can’t hit every headshot

trail carbon
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You do not need to camp

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Camping is just wasting everyone's time

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Slow and methodical combat != Camping

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Tired of people saying they're the same thing

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And then sitting in a building for 20 minutes

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Take some risks now and again, you're not going to win every match

wooden smelt
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If I don’t camp with long ammo I simply die in close range how can I win without camping? I know people want me ti push that’s exactly what I’m not going to do

trail carbon
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If you never push, how are you supposed to finish the match?

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Obviously it's risky

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Tell me this

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Is it more fun to push in and die in 2 minutes, or sit outside for 20 minutes?

wooden smelt
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They come to extraction I headshot one of them with scope then camp body this is meta I’m just following the game design not like I want to camp in fact never camped before patch 1.4.1

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It’s not fun but it required to win as long ammo

trail carbon
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Well before 1.4.1 long ammo was ridiculously strong at every single range, and it still is. It's just not an instagib

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You shouldn't be able to murder someone for free because they peeked for a microsecond 80m away from you

quick kettle
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I definitely win with long ammo without camping

wooden smelt
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Still is? Wth

trail carbon
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You should have to to headshots to insta kill

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Long ammo damage at close range is insane

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It's not like it gets worse the closer you get to someone

wooden smelt
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Let’s say you have sparks uppercut then you push rival showty what’s gonna happen you think? Answer is I die. Why? Bc they nerfed qs now we need to long range camp

trail carbon
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If you engage the rival at point blank, sure

quick kettle
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There’s a cool feature called having a secondary gun. I use it to offset whatever my primary is good at. Long ammo for range? CQC pistol for close. Shotgun for pushing? Pax or Uppercut for engaging at range.

trail carbon
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But after like 5 meters, shotguns lose all reliability

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Sounds to me like you're playing as if it's still QS meta, even though we left that trash meta behind a while ago

quick kettle
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Why run Sparks/Uppercut when Sparks/Officer or Sparks/Spitfire works sooo much better

wooden smelt
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Ammo reserve

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Plus wallbang as secondary

trail carbon
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You can't run long range weapon and then complain that you're *required" to camp to win

quick kettle
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If you need that much spare ammo for Sparks….well…

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trail carbon
quick kettle
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Spitfire can take FMJ and wallbang perfectly fine too

wooden smelt
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But lose ammo reserve

trail carbon
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And?

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Do you really need 30+ shots at all times? Do you never see ammo boxes?

quick kettle
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Sparks has good reserve to start with though. Unless you’re missing 9/10 shots you don’t really need it

wooden smelt
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I need what I need

main cradle
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Like I just run a compact ammo pistol whenever I use a LA bolt action.
The recoil of a mosin can make a quick follow up hard, so having a revolver like the Caldwell helps with survival. Hell even Medium ammo revolvers work well with rifles like the lebel

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You don’t really need all that spare ammo

Cause there’s ammo boxes

wooden smelt
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I spend 40 ammo for wallbang. Per a game I mean. Sparks two sparks pistols even carry two ammo boxes like fronkie

trail carbon
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If you're struggling that much with ammo, just bring ammo boxes

trail carbon
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Are you just randomly firing through the wall?

quick kettle
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Only time I run long ammo with long ammo is with Berthier, because Berthier is pretty competitive even at close range

wooden smelt
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A lil ahead from sprinting sound

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Not random

trail carbon
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And you're hitting these wallbangs?

wooden smelt
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Once or twice per 10 bullets I think

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If I push I just simply die to shotguns so I like to attempt for lucky kills before I die

trail carbon
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With long ammo, you probably want to aim more at the sprinting sound

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High velocity rounds

wooden smelt
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Bruh

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All I’m saying here is fix the play style make the game fun again

main cradle
trail carbon
wooden smelt
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Play style are based on game balance and design

main cradle
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Also, you really don’t need all that spare for the wall bangs

Like don’t focus on them man

trail carbon
quick kettle
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Problem is, long ammo is already top meta and has been for a long time….it really doesn’t need any buffs

wooden smelt
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I like attempting to wallbang very much. If they remove wallbang mechanics I’ll finally quit this game

trail carbon
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There are other ways to play besides mosin uppercut

wooden smelt
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Long ammo is top meta if you only play long range. It’s trash if you push

main cradle
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Dude they ain’t gonna remove wallbangs nor are they gonna improve them or make them like whatever better

It’s a lil mechanic that doesn’t handicap you

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Nor buff ya

trail carbon
main cradle
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It gets you a lil edge but like

trail carbon
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Long ammo is cracked dude

wooden smelt
quick kettle
trail carbon
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At 5 meters, sure, it loses

wooden smelt
trail carbon
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But you're gonna get stabbed or something at 5m anyways

quick kettle
trail carbon
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But pitching does sucj

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It's a lot better nowadays, but underground compounds are the worst

wooden smelt
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Then think if there is still qs we could push pitching

quick kettle
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QS was bad and it’s healthier for the game that it’s gone

trail carbon
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Sure, but every other situation would be horrid

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trail carbon
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QS allowed you to near instantly kill someone you could see without headshotting them

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QS = bad

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I was happy when QS was removed, and when lightfoot silent sprinting was removed

quick kettle
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And I’ll say again, even now. If I had a Sparks I could easily push Pitching. Why? Because I’ll be running something like Conversion pistol Fanning for close quarters

somber harbor
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worst take I've ever heard

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oh ffs discord

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that was to the nagant carbine being shit comment

quick kettle
somber harbor
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discord just randomly be like nah fuc u when I try to reply to stuff HuntDisgust

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QS sounds like total dogshit though

quick kettle
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It was

somber harbor
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it's bad enough getting shot one after the other by two people in a team nvm one person having that power

quick kettle
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You would get two-tapped at long range….by a single guy

trail carbon
somber harbor
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it's one of the easiest guns to click heads with

quick kettle
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I see Officer Carbines occasionally. I’m more likely to take one in that to find it in the wild though, lol

wooden smelt
trail carbon
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I wouldn't say garbage, but it's compact ammo. It reloads slower than the Winfield, and you can get levering on the Winfield so it kinda feels obsolete

somber harbor
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winfield doesn't get poison ammo

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😈

trail carbon
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Damn it, he made a fair point

hybrid gale
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@slow apex You can already see which bounty is big and small. Bounty I is always the big one and Bounty II is always the small one. And if the bounties are equal, it doesn't really matter.
What would make sense imo, is when the original bounty borders would still be shown, after picking up clues

quick kettle
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I think the recoil nerf on the Carbine was a bit overboard….it could be brought down a bit and still be in a good spot balance-wise

wooden smelt
trail carbon
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Wait

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Were you upset with the lightfoot change?

wooden smelt
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Yh

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No more bunny hop? I down vote

trail carbon
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Ok, no offense, but you cannot defend old lightfoot. On a moral level, you cannot defend that

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Silent movement has no place in hunt

wooden smelt
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Bunny hop was one of technique what crytek has been doing is taking away all OG skills

trail carbon
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Skills is a strong word

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QS is not skillful, and neither is lightfoot abuse

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Both of these require a single button press

somber harbor
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god fuck being able to continuously jump without slowdown

trail carbon
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You don't even have to time them well

wooden smelt
hybrid gale
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Bunny hopping is something straight out of CoD, and you still say that removing that was bringing more CoD players to hunt?

somber harbor
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if you wanna bunnnyhop play cruelty squad instead

trail carbon
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Silent sprinting via bunny hopping was one of the worst exploits in the game. You shouldn't be able to run up on someone for free

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Especially when it was paired with QS

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God, it was awful

wooden smelt
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I don’t think I can agree on anything with you people

wooden smelt
trail carbon
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You're saying it was good when you could completely silently sprint around a corner and two tap someone in a microsecond

cedar coyote
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You can still do the bunny hopping it’s just not as good as it used to be, same with quickswap, you can still do it but it doesn’t have the speed it used to. It’s not like they were fully removed

hybrid gale
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And that was a good thing 👍

somber harbor
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yeah it's not like there's a cooldown between firing until you can actually change weapon lol

trail carbon
somber harbor
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there's a cooldown on jump spam but for very good reason beyond lightfoot abusing

wooden smelt
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Nobody here miss qs? None of you liked it? This can’t be true or you’re new

cedar coyote
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I enjoyed it but it can still be done, just not to the same extent

trail carbon
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I've been playing since 2019. I hated it always

hybrid gale
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I play since EA and don't miss QS one second

quick kettle
trail carbon
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Just because people disagree with you doesn't mean we're new or whatever

wooden smelt
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QS was so cool and very unique. What kept this game different than any other shooters

trail carbon
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Unique?

somber harbor
quick kettle
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There are lots of things that make Hunt unique among shooters….but QS is not one of them

somber harbor
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granted they did nerf double pump

trail carbon
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As far as I'm aware, a lot of other shooters have a similar mechanic

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It's just that Hunt has a very short TTK in comparison

quick kettle
somber harbor
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that's another thing even fortnite nerfed it's most broken qs combo because of how much of an issue stuff like that is for a game

trail carbon
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So quick swapping on other games isn't very strong unless you run out of ammo

wooden smelt
quick kettle
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No, not unique

somber harbor
quick kettle
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It’s a very CoD-like mechanic

wooden smelt
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You could play double uppercut feeling like a real gunslinger

trail carbon
wooden smelt
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Anyways what I suggested was bringing back QS will stop people from long range camping that’s all. I don’t think I can agree with anyone here

trail carbon
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It would cause more camping

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Because you'd be too afraid to peek because you'd just die instantly

wooden smelt
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Remember people were pushing concrete compounds with sparks sniper but today you don’t see those yh?

trail carbon
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Literally just go for headshots, it's more skillful and accomplishes the same thing

wooden smelt
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Ofc I go for headshot but can’t head shot 3–9 people straight well I died to shotgun. Learns lesson never gonna push so long range camp. This mindset came out after they nerfed quick swap and quick scope

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Nobody using sparchie anymore so sad

trail carbon
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I respect almost all of the hunt devs' decisions. I like the hunt devs a lot. Now, the higher ups at crytek who are forcing this garbage monetization and focus on skins... I dont like them very much. The devs of hunt removed quick swap because they understood that it was bad for the game

wooden smelt
trail carbon
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How does the focus on monetization affect QS getting removed?

stray horizon
stray horizon
trail carbon
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It was

wooden smelt
trail carbon
wooden smelt
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Prob only thing we can agree here is removing avto for good

trail carbon
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N-no?

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What

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Sparks pistol gives it too much reserve ammo, I'll give you that

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But why would you remove that piece of trash meme weapon

main cradle
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But like removing it?

It’s been in the game since the start

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It’s literally a gimmick gun

trail carbon
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It only works at 40ish meters

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Would you say we should remove the Nitro because it's too op too?

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(shredder rounds should probably be nerfed, but I mean base nitro)

wooden smelt
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Nitro is most op weapon in the game but still require some skills

sonic cedar
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And 1000 bucks

wooden smelt
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Avto? No it don’t need any skills same as fanning or dualies

main cradle
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..

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You do need skill of fanning and dualies like

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Huh

trail carbon
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Avto is heavily RNG dependant and you have to know what you're doing to use the Avto well

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The damn thing has random horizontal spread

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And random vertical recoil

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Spray and pray isn't a real thing with the avto, because it isn't reliable in the slightest

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Chain pistol fanning is more reliable

unborn dagger
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I don't know about that, i was sprayin and prayin and it worked out for me

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Then again I'm on console so maybe it's different on PC

wooden smelt
trail carbon
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Long range?

wooden smelt
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Medium ish long

trail carbon
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With shredder, it's barely 70m

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And I think shredder should be nerfed

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Without shredder, it's 40m

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And the sights make it incredibly hard to shoot at medium range

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You are required to quick scope

wooden smelt
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Nitro is just a big shotty can one tap anybody around compound you just need to hipfire how is this not the best gun I’m out

main cradle
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It’s not even a shotgun

trail carbon
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Hipfire?!

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Oh yeah, just roll the dice

balmy sparrow
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Nat20

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What's next

trail carbon
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You got lucky

balmy sparrow
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Nat13

trail carbon
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Do it again 2 more times

balmy sparrow
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What's next

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Aight bet

wooden smelt
main cradle
balmy sparrow
main cradle
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Dude
What

trail carbon
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Are you seriously categorizing people based on Hunt: Showdown's MMR system

trail carbon
balmy sparrow
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😎

wooden smelt
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Sure mmr are skills you got your mmr with reasons

trail carbon
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I've been a 6 star and a 3 star in the same day

main cradle
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Ok so Lemmie get this right

Me, a person who has been playing since 2019, who is around 3-4 stars

Doesn’t know how to aim the nitro?

trail carbon
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That's a flawed system

wooden smelt
trail carbon
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I'd personally love to be a 3-4 star

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That's where the fun is to be had

wooden smelt
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You need practicing to get good

balmy sparrow
main cradle
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I didn’t even bring up prestige

wooden smelt
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Playtime isn’t matter I meant

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There people with 2000 hrs still plays like 50 hrs

trail carbon
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Total bounty is a much better gauge of how experienced someone is at the game

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Usually at least

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MMR and K/D mean absolutely nothing

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People in 6 star land are only 6 stars because they are willing to sit across the map with a sniper

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Or inside with a shotgun

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They aren't usually that good in an actual firefight because they aren't in actual fights very much

wooden smelt
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Yo this guys is literally typical 4 star he has every mindset

main cradle
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What is the four star mindset then?

trail carbon
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You're still doing the categorization by MMR thing

trail carbon
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Not play to win at all costs

wooden smelt
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If you’re good at the game you never drop mmr or kda. If you play with discord you never drop your 6 star without camping

main cradle
wooden smelt
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You just don’t wanna face this fact

trail carbon
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Everyone gets unlucky and dies sometimes

main cradle
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Yeah

trail carbon
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Unless you're sitting in a bush/building all game, every game

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You will die

main cradle
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A 2 star can manage to out hunt a 6 star

trail carbon
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When someone has higher than a 2 K/D in hunt, they are usually not fun to play with

main cradle
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Cause it doesn’t matter bout the mmr if the 2 star has been around since the start of the game while the 6 star has been playing for 5 days

wooden smelt
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Bruh

trail carbon
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Now, there are some crazy dude out there with 3.0 KD and are just cracked

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But it's usually because they never engage in risky combat

wooden smelt
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You can have 2 kda without camping only playing shotgun monkey rush 24/7 only with randoms

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How do you even drop below 2

main cradle
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I look at prestige as something more important than mmr

Cause the people with higher prestige are most likely gonna be better cause they been around longer

wooden smelt
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3 kda is not farmer kda

trail carbon
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I don't feel like you know how this game looks like without camping

trail carbon
main cradle
trail carbon
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Lifetime KD is stupid especially in a game where you can die at any time

main cradle
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You meet people with a KD of 60

But they have racked up 10k kills

trail carbon
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Yeah

main cradle
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Explain that man, explain that

trail carbon
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They kill one guy and leave

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Over and over again

wooden smelt
tight delta
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I would love if lifetime KD was replaced with recent KD, that covers either some time period or last X matches.

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Or even having more stats visible in general.

main cradle
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Cause I didn’t bring up any point bout farmers

trail carbon
wooden smelt
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You people are saying kda and mmr aren’t skill it means nothing. I say it means everything

trail carbon
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Oh.

main cradle
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…does it now?

trail carbon
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I understand now.

main cradle
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Do you judge others based on how much they sweat?

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Of course my wording is blunt but

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There’s other factors that need to be considered.

wooden smelt
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Take a look at streamers. They don’t have low kda which is below 3 they don’t drop to 3 stars or 4

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Because they play a lot and good at the game

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So means mmr and kda are skill

trail carbon
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Do you requeue in randoms if a random doesn't have a loadout you like?

wooden smelt
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Idc about loadout but I dodge 4 stars they’re meh

trail carbon
trail carbon
main cradle
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And picking a 6 star with like

100 killers

Instead of the 10k hour guy with 20k kills

Like what

wooden smelt
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Archie is 10 kda without camping he even meme a lot often

main cradle
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I take experience over skill, sorry if that’s so unpopular

trail carbon
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Streamers are literally playing this game for their job

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You cannot compare them to normal players

wooden smelt
main cradle
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But are they kda farmers?

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Are they?

trail carbon
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I'd rather have someone with amazing game sense and low gun skill than someone with high gun skill but no game sense

wooden smelt
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Depends on kda and loadout also if it is a new acc or not you can tell

main cradle
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Or are they people who’ve been playing for a while recently had a few shit matches

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That’s the thing man

Mmr is unstable as hell

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You die one round you get sent back all the way

trail carbon
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You can be a 6 star, die to a four star on one of those teams and be set back to four star land

tight delta
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Hunt's MMR feels like its performance based. Wild swings whether you kill or get killed.

wooden smelt
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You need to die 3-4 times straight without any kills to drop to 5. You think it does happen if you’re playing with discord people who knows how to play?

trail carbon
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Because someone is now a four star, do they become worse at the game? No.

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MMR != Skill

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K/D != Skill

tight delta
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We've had numerous situations in where we had a few lucky kills one match, lower MMR friend gets their rank increased bit time, and we're facing off with Rachta etc. the next match.

trail carbon
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Long exposure to all kinds of experiences in the game = Skill

wooden smelt
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You 4 stars seem to need excuses to accept your low kda. Would you say mmr and kda are not skills when you’re 6 star and 10 kda like Archie?

tight delta
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Time is not the best indicator of skill, as you could technically be playing wrong for a long time.

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Though time spent doing something usually correlates with how good you are at it, but it's not a guarantee.

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And not all learn at the same rate.

trail carbon
main cradle
tight delta
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Streamers tend to represent the best of the best, wouldn't say they're average at all.

trail carbon
trail carbon
celest solstice
main cradle
trail carbon
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I think I'd like to move to another topic of discussion now. This isnt going anywhere, and if not I'm just going to leave

tight delta
main cradle
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Yeah

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Yet end of the day they’re just players

Don’t need to hold them to such a high standard

somber harbor
wooden smelt
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No one’s taking about average but average are below 2 kda there are still many people who has 4 kda+ without camping. Bc they have better aim better game sense better rotating skills. What if you were that guy? You still thinks it ain’t skills? Face the fact bro

somber harbor
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or by killing one person and extracting over and over again

quick reef
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wtf is this MODS here, i wrote a nicely explanaiton why some people want billy twitch drop back, and it gone DELETED in not even 5 sc, does crytek dont wanna listen!?
i thought our berlin based team cares more

main cradle
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I mean

It might’ve been a bit aggressive but I mean, what do I know

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Jack shit apparently

wooden smelt
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Kda and mmr are skills except farmers this is it

crystal plume
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Feedback is not for discussions

celest solstice
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@wooden smeltIf you're actively pushing, going for bosses, not camping, etc... you're not gonna have a 4 kda. It's just not gonna happen. This game has too many rats to shoot you while you're in a fight

crystal plume
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You were replying to someone so it was removed

wooden smelt
celest solstice
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No. Sorry

main cradle
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That still doesn’t ya know

Solve the issue of someone who ya know

Isn’t on ya team

wooden smelt
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Above 5 are farmers. If they try to farm but still got 3-4 kda they’re simply bad at the game in the first place don’t even call these are farmers

celest solstice
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Unless you're purposely tanking your mmr for a few games to stay in a certain ranking so you can stock pile kills then maybe

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Having a 4 kda would sky rocket you to 5-6 star and the players there just don't allow you to keep that kind of kda unless you're doing something sus

trail carbon
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This "discussion" has become divisive and, frankly, is just wasting everyone's time here. Nobody is going to change anyone's mind on this topic. Obviously we can't even agree to disagree, so let's just stop this nonsense.

wooden smelt
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We are from 2018 our kda don’t drop like that. Need 100 death without kill to drop 0.05 kda

main cradle
celest solstice
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@wooden smeltLol what are you talking about? If you're sitting at a 4 kda from when there were 2000 concurrent players, its a little different in the varied skill of players playing now and the mechanics of the game compared to 4 years ago

wooden smelt
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Mine is 3.5 I don’t have 4 cuz I play randoms a lot

celest solstice
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You're simply implying that your kills to deaths ratio is so high that you wouldn't drop. That doesn't mean you're actually doing that well still. Do your own numbers starting at 0 and let us know next week

main cradle
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Class dismissed or whatever

wooden smelt
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Bruh 3.5 is not high kda it’ll be higher if I start new account from count 0 kill

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I used to have 0.8 kda when I started but there was time when there were no SBMM like today

celest solstice
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Well if the average is below 2, then 3.5 is high🤦‍♂️

wooden smelt
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You could play against completely new players that’s why most og streamers stay at high kda

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They learned the game early and faster killed bunch of new ones

celest solstice
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We're not talking camping, rat numbers

main cradle
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I honestly think this discussion has gone off the road. Just saying

wooden smelt
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You know how to get 3 kda? You just need two friends with discord get yourself a rival shotgun or slate then just monkey rush in compound with coms. To get 8 kda you need to long ammo camp there are different

little carbon
trail carbon
rigid basalt
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kd has nothing to do with camping at all cause some players are jsut better then others and i frag out like a lot of campers with nades

little carbon
trail carbon
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Yeah, I guess I was generalizing in my frustrations. My mistake

little carbon
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And I really can't understand how someone can think QS would be balanced.

little carbon
trail carbon
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Yeah, I just had to stop with that conversation because I was just repeating myself and getting frustrated

main cradle
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Yeah it was the definition of talking to a wall

trail carbon
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That's the average player in 6 star land by the way. They often steam message me when I anti camp then and complain with similar arguments

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Well

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I guess it's not the average 6 star player

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But it definitely happens waaay more in 6 star land than anywhere else

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I'm glad MMR is visible now, so I know when I'm going to be allowed to have fun or not

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4 star land is my favorite

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3 star just makes me feel bad when I get kills

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Same in 4 star land to some extent

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5 star land in a slightly less awful 6 star land

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And 6 star land is like eating rusty nails

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After this, I realize I've been taking most of you for granted. So thank you guys for being able to have reasonable conversations without insulting each other. It's nice to be able to have discussion with random people in the community, despite """"discussions"""" like the one that just happened

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Anyways, I'm going to go throw a 2 pound brick of lithium in a bathtub now

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tight delta
trail carbon
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@quick reef What exactly are you suggesting with this one? We are getting Billy Story confirmed, so I don't understand what this is about?

queen jungle
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@celest solstice The camera is not located on eye-level, but rather on throat-level

celest solstice
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That’s really no excuse. This is top right of the screen

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And my playback shows the arrow go over and passed me

tight delta
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The camera is a bit below your eyes to eliminate "headglitching". But the placement of the camera horizontally leaves much to be desired 😂

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The dude behind the tree could see me without even revealing their head.

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That's because your camera is located somewhere closer to your left shoulder.

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Hence leftpeeking being a thing.

celest solstice
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I get it, it’s stupid

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Terrible placement

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But hey, we get a drone soon so there’s that instead of fixing this kinda garbage 🙄

tight delta
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Did the enemy hit you behind the tree on your ping?

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Well, someone's ping.

celest solstice
#

He was below a hill. I saw him and ducked behind the hill and that was the result

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My partner says from their perspective, he was aiming at them and shouldn’t it ever been able to hit me at all

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I’m thinking a really bad desync

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Per usual with this game

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Shooters for the most part work off of visual queues/animations. I see someone. If they’re aimed at me, I move to cover. If they’re not, then I fire at them. If the visual queue is not working and displaying different things to different players, that shit needs to be addressed ASAP.

stray horizon
#

I didn't watch the stream what is this about Billy and twitch drop quests?

unborn wadi
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Maybe go and watch it?

queen jungle
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@hearty rivet I desperately want this and a killbind

hearty rivet
#

TF2 ahead of the competition once again 😄

queen jungle
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I know

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Love that game

queen jungle
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@hybrid forum Would your lemat handcannon have better range/accuracy?

weak stone
#

@lost wadi
You know you can just change the slots of anything you have by using the number you want it on in game right?

queen jungle
stray horizon
unborn wadi
hearty rivet
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HomeReel made a short recap video of the stream

unborn wadi
stray horizon
unborn wadi
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Bruh, people have been talking about it non-stop for the past two days. At this point, if you can’t piece it together, or you haven’t even been bothered to watch the recap video, that’s 100% on you. Nothing philosophical here. Don’t ask people to go out of their way to feed you information you can find in two seconds with google

stray horizon
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again, just don't respond

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me saying a thing ain't hurtin no one

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so what's up the twitch drop quest with Billy?

unborn wadi
#

Holy shit

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https://youtu.be/mxTCKfyLvR8

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Do your own bloody research.

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That took me literally 2 seconds to find

stray horizon
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oh man I assume those four blocked messages are a very detailed explanation, well I appreciate you taking the time to do that very nice of you but I guess it was for nothing oh well, have to wait for someone else

hearty rivet
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You guys… 😄

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hearty rivet
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I’ll let you two settle that 😛

stray horizon
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oh wait I shouldn't have asked hold on let me find a video 🤣

unborn wadi
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I may have been mistaken 🤣🤣🤣

lyric rivet
#

just had a team dual camp my team mates dead body and they threw concertina bombs though already thrown bombs which shouldn't be possible. they both had 4 bombs. and just spammed them what a wonderful game...

unborn wadi
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Some people be toxic. All you can do is shrug it off and move onto the next game unfortunately 😦

lyric rivet
#

yeah no, its broken bullshit

unborn wadi
#

Not really broken, but hugely disrespectful

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Though one stick of dynamite will clear it all

lyric rivet
#

youre not supposed to be able to throw things though a full wall of concertina it's FUCKING BROKEN

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@rough atlas
What is your proof he a mouse user

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Also no names

rough atlas
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These movements are impossible on console, to do that you need a sensitivity so high that your AIM should fly: he uses mouse or he has the double of the inches' neurocortex of a normal person

balmy sparrow
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Maybe i didn't read it thoroughly, but i don't think you mentioned any movements, just a headshot from lebel at 5 metres

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#

lebel marksman*
from 5 meters this weapon can't move so fast, and if it does it can't be so precise. The console is full of mouse users, when specting them as friends found in random you can understand they uses it. This shot at this fast with that weapon to that distance is impossible: or he uses the mouse or he could have won the lottery if instread of playing hunt he went to play a ticket

balmy sparrow
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💀 poor guy misspelled title

balmy sparrow
#

It's not csgo

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There is nothing superstitious about awp noscopes here

stable gust
rough atlas
#

the lebel isn't famous for its noscope precision. But ok, the name of the user was deleted, I apologize for forgotting the rule about the names, but what about mouse users on console in general? We want to believe that each of the players I look at as enemies and as friends are so much lucky? We want to believe that if a player plays with the sensitivity of a mouse, hit as he has a mouse, has a KDA of 2 or more also playing in 6 stars lobbyes it is only lucky? On console 6 stars players often uses the mouse, sometime 5 stars does it too and rarely i found also a 4 stars with it. Maybe to playing quickplay and intentionally losing can pull down the MMR? These thinks can't be explained neither with luckyness neither with ability: these events are too much frequent

balmy sparrow
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That is a fair problem

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And i do believe they are getting banned slowly

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But steadily

rough atlas
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I only wanted to hear the game developers to say that they are working to the problem as one of their priority when they live stream about the next update. On console this problem is not a rarity: if you are 5 stars you can lose up to 30% of the matches of the day against mouse users, if you are 6 stars it is up to 100% (because with 3 enemy teams is close to certain that one cheats on 6 stars lobbies, and you can find the same cheaters more times in the same day, I don't know if you use console, but it is too much clear). But I never heard something about it, it seems console players have no rights to enjoy the game

worthy knoll
inner loom
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@obsidian narwhal That's on EAC to implement.

obsidian narwhal
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afaik the game devs have control over EAC's whitelist though

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i mean why would they not have some specific configuration options over the anti-cheat?

pale spoke
#

Seeing how posts about deathscreen screenshots where people get killed by guns that by according to stats shot them 5 times inside a 0.00 second with a non levering / fanning weapon, gets deleted cause posting such screenshot according to reddit mods is haccusation. Why is taking a screenshot of what you seen in game seen as forbidden material to be posted in reddit ?

wind stream
#

Pretty sure you are allowed to post them, if you hide the names of your opponents

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since witchhunting is just pointless and invites false accusations

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if your goal is to report a hacker or a bug you can do that ingame or on the hunt website

pale spoke
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Just seen that sorta death happen few times in reddit posts. So would like to get some clarification at some point that is that a possible bug, or dead giveaway about a hacker.

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nova prairie
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oh well

lone aurora
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@little badger literally right there

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maiden pelican
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@dull prawn They nerfed the officer and pax 100X worse in the later unlock department. And the conversion increased in price by 2x almost

maiden pelican
dull prawn
maiden pelican
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Also the uppercut had a big price increase too

dull prawn
#

but that doesn't change the fact that the dolch is still insanely overpriced for what it is

maiden pelican
#

It deserves the punishment its getting

dull prawn
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I feel it's been punished enough

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it was a blight on the game for a while, true

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but it hasn't been for a long time, it's balanced now, it deserves a price to match

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keep it pricy by all accounts, but over $700 is nuts for what it offers

lone aurora
maiden pelican
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I don't think it fits the tempo of hunt, it's still really good you just have to aim well with it

dull prawn
#

after all lots of people still think that Hunt should be all clunky single-shots and cycle-action guns with nothing even remotely modern in the mix at all

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I personally like the sprinkling of turn-of-the-century weapons

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it's really a taste thing imo

maiden pelican
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It 2 shots people far faster than anything that isn't fanning

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Or i guess the bornheim match at very short range

dull prawn
#

if you can hit your shots, sure, it also has insane recoil

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first shots easy to hit

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second shot? if you're spamming at close range sure maybe you'll get lucky, but most of the time you're going to wait the same amount of time as you would with, say, the spitfire

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which I just unlocked at level 10 on a fresh prestige and only costs $108

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6 shots, decent reload rate, great fire rate, not bad range - it's almost as good as the dolch (I'd argue) for a fraction of the price and much sooner

pale raft
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Reduce beetle range to 75-90m, remove the poison and bleed it does when it explodes and make it so that it doesn't block extract, crytek pls

willow turret
#

can yall make a hunt general chat so a bunch of people in the hunt discord can talk and chill

somber harbor
unborn smelt
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@pulsar canopy I already forwarded a similar conplain earlier. Just FYI 👍

pulsar canopy
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@unborn smelt also found out you can actually remap it, but you have to do it through the xml config file attributes.xml

unborn smelt
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Ah nice to know as a workaround thx

fierce bloom
#

might wanna pin that for people that need the remapping

prime iron
#

Looks like new prices and trait cost to up is too much

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And why axe???

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elder thorn
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I found it difficult to know where I'm looking with the beetle, i think to add a hunter like dot on the map when inside the beetle to be able to know where you're looking while in the beetle.

queen jungle
pale raft
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There's no reason for a scouting and disarming consumable to deal poison and bleed damage. And if they don't want to reduce the range then add a timer so you can't sit on the drone for as much time as you'd like.

queen jungle
prime iron
#

i cat take axe on the map and it's same stats to combat
btw combat axe is almost free 5-15$ no matter what

tight delta
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I'm almost certain it's all due to the usage%. You need to use combat axe to unlock throwing axes, which many people need in their kit.

somber harbor
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dead by daylights devs do it all the time and it led to a mid tier killer getting nerfed into the ground meanwhile the strongest one has been untouched for ages

radiant river
somber harbor
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you need to look into why people use certain things be it, they simply like it or if it's because it's actually overpowered

prime iron
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normal knife also overpowered and heavy knife underpowered

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(Yes, a repost, but an aspect of this suggestion is changed. The HS range of medium rifles)
Title: Buff medium
Description: Buff medium to make it equivalent to medium fmj in dropoff, but dropping off at 30m not 40m. And buff medium fmj accordingly, and 40m to 50m (inbetween compact fmj 40m and long fmj 60m)

For example the centennial 2 shots around 60m, cent fmj around 85m. With this change cent normal would be around 75m, and cent fmj around 95-105

For a comparison to long, berthier and vetterli do the same damage. as of now FMJ 2 shots up to 88m, berthier around 140. After this change vet fmj would be around 105-110. So long would still be the stronger choice but medium fmj would be a viable option.

And buff the HS multiplier to be around 220-240m depending on the gun```
soft river
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Bru

prime iron
soft river
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That was one of the stupidest changes

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Like why is it increased in price

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Slug and spitzer change was a bad change imo

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Axe change was a stupid change

somber harbor
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most of the changes are stupid lmao

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why should an uppercut cost as much as a mosin

prime iron
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I of course dont want to play with him anymore he is so expensive

soft river
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Reduce

somber harbor
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Because the uppercut is literally everywhere

somber harbor
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i.e it's just a good fuckin gun

soft river
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They should’ve nerfed its damage

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To like 124

somber harbor
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bring other guns up to its level or bring it down to theirs

soft river
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The latter is better

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What was stupid before this update

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Bornheim extended was more than the uppercut

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I’d bring the uppercut down to like 300

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Decrease its damage to 124

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Decrease velocity to 360

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Thr price change is a bit much I can see why

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I’m just an uppercut hater so I am heavily biased

unborn dagger
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It really makes me think Crytek didn't actually check any of the price changes and just let a bot do all the work and it bugged out.

late wind
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Leave the price as is and still nerf it to 124. Price hikes and a slew of nerfs seemed to work for the Dolch.