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main cradle
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You didn’t

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Jinx

burnt mulch
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all you said was "what does it have to do with KD"

atomic cipher
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"Maybe you are the person who likes to be trolled or killed in the game for no reason. I'm not"

burnt mulch
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yeah that's not

main cradle
burnt mulch
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yeah that's more of an awkward personal attack.

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and it still doesn't address the "multiple deaths' part

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maybe i can be clearer?

atomic cipher
burnt mulch
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communication is a two-way street.

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I obviously didn't find it "perfectly clear". and neither did raven apparently

main cradle
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I’m more confused rn

burnt mulch
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please explain your response in more detail.

main cradle
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Are you literally sour cause ya not getting ya dopamine rush?

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Like sorry if I’m blunt

atomic cipher
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You both seem to have a 180% opinion on this matter than me. That's for sure 🍻 I do see this as a way for toxic gameplay that is different from other ways of trolling. Looks like you don't see this difference. Well in this case we won't find a common ground. But that's alright. It was a discussion anyways.

burnt mulch
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I'm literally asking you what the difference is

atomic cipher
burnt mulch
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you clearly see a difference where I do not

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I am trying to get that information out of you

main cradle
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Same

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Im just asking you

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A question.

burnt mulch
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also, I... believe you meant 180 degree? that's a percent sign.

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  1. "Necromancer abuse" makes you die multiple times <- ok
  2. Other forms of trolling usually make you die up to once <- also generally true
  3. Dying multiple times is worse than dying once <- this is the part that I'm asking about
    Therefore necromancer abuse is worse than other forms of abuse
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man fuck this

atomic cipher
# burnt mulch I am trying to get that information out of you

And I have provided the info. I'll repeat it one more time. 1. The difference - multiple deaths that can't be prevented that ultimately result in a bad experience and a lost hunter (for people who care about KD and stats that's even more) 2. The player who abuses doesn't really risks anything themselves. Yes , 180 degree, thank you

burnt mulch
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multiple deaths that can't be prevented that ultimately result in a bad experience and a lost hunter (for people who care about KD and stats that's even more)
what is different about multiple deaths that can't be prevented vs one death that can't be prevented

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jesus it's like pulling teeth

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multiple deaths that can't be prevented that ultimately result in a bad experience and a lost hunter (for people who care about KD and stats that's even more)
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a death that can't be prevented that ultimately result in a bad experience and a lost hunter (for people who care about KD and stats that's even more)

main cradle
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I’m tryna write my first draft but Jesus this is just

atomic cipher
burnt mulch
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...

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I don't see the difference because you're not explaining what the difference is

atomic cipher
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burnt mulch
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@mellow needle the problem with the MH pistol now is a matter of design space. How would it be distinct from the sporks?

blissful pewter
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gonna be honest scripts are annoying for avto in hunt

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but also its not that hard to control the recoil you just pull straight down

mellow needle
inner loom
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The gun from the screenshot is a fake.
It says Enfield, too. LUL

somber harbor
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@wheat whale love the mention of the console ports issues

soft river
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@queen jungle hunt takes place in 1895

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4 years off

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somber harbor
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Just make it a "prototype"

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late wind
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Eyes.

dense schooner
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throwables

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wallbangs

unborn wadi
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@jaunty heath sounds like you wanna go play fortnight

dense schooner
hearty rivet
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Didn’t Fortnite remove the whole building thing? The building is what always kept me from trying the game, other than that it looks pretty fun.

stray horizon
burnt mulch
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deployable cover doesn’t sound the worst, though it was worded poorly.

unborn wadi
crystal plume
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Imagine actually using games like fortnite as an example for people completing battlepasses HUL

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I haven't completed a battlepass with 100 levels even once

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While I was able to complete Hunt's first iteration of one in just couple weeks

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Using the % brackets is also pointless since they don't give the full story

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Someone who completed the event recently shared a screenshot of their placement on the event leaderboards which showed that over 50k people have completed the event

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unborn wadi
crystal plume
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It's still a point I can make with the context of me not completing a single battlepass from other games where it's generally 100 levels

rigid basalt
crystal plume
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I imagine a lot less than people seem to think 😄

rigid basalt
# crystal plume I imagine a lot less than people seem to think 😄

charys-hutners-chart only includes only players who logged in during the event atleast once right ? that would mean that only like 50% of the people on the scoreboard or so are activly trying to complete the event/are actively playing the event => which would mean only people who had the time to grind an average of 450points a day which requires about 2,5h a day depending on how good the matches go which is absolutly doable but not every one who has a family and is working 40h+ a week the rate at which u gain eventpoints an the amount needed for each lvl seems fine its just the timewindow is too small more lvls and a longer time to play the event would be better as then more people would be able to find the time to get the eventpoints / grind for them to say in short raise the amount of event-lvls and time for the event but keeping the average eventpoints needed a day the same would propaly increase the completen-percentage by 10-15%

crystal plume
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We don't know what the % brackets are based on

rigid basalt
unborn wadi
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granite aspen
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The ADS should be accurate when we are jumping since jumping does not change the ADS.

unborn wadi
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Guarantee it does

granite aspen
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def not, just died because of this

crystal plume
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I don't think that every player that has logged on during the event is relevant either

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Not every player cares about the event

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And as harsh as it may sound, not every player is necessarily supposed to complete the event

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And with both factors considered I'd say having at least 50k people completing the event is already quite a lot of people

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As well as the fact that they have previously adjusted events point gain rate wise etc. if they noticed issues with it, considering that they only adjusted the point gains from event clues during the event they probably have the data to support that it's good as it is

unborn smelt
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Just out of interest, where do we have the 50k people having completed it from ?

rigid basalt
unborn smelt
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ah okay 👍

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thx

rigid basalt
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i am acctually place 53031 rn and have it completed and i am acctually top10% so there is porpaply around 75k people or so who completed it already

unborn smelt
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avg points for top 10 is only 20.000 pts tho, right ?

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so roughly over half of the top 10 haven't yet finished

somber harbor
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@viscid grove finally someone else sees the issues with the legendaries steering away from actual western inspired ones

unborn smelt
rigid basalt
somber harbor
unborn smelt
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yeah there is some - but are those "some" really amounting to another 50% more ?

rigid basalt
unborn smelt
rigid basalt
unborn smelt
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Hunt is based in the swamps as opposed to the plains most westerns are in, and is more caracterized by the occult and supernatural, as well as being almost 1900 sets it a good bit behind the timeframe of actual westerns especially in terms of weaponry

unborn smelt
rigid basalt
unborn smelt
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To be fair tho - i went from a player that sunk up to 6 hours a day into Hunt and could do so comfortably, to a player that could only play on weekends for nearly a year, and now i got about 3 hours a day tops (realistically more like 2 hours) for all my freetime so i really don't like that this event is so grindy it expects me to sacrifice my almost entire freetime for 2 monts to finish

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But i feel like i may have to reiterate, that is my personal situation and opinion

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I very much know that there will be people that essentially say "lol tough luck, i can do it so it's fine" and while i detest that mentality they do have a point too

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Another polarizing one is, i wouldn't give a fuck for it either if i could buy the levels i lack the time to grind for... It'd make me not loose out and fund a game i love in the meantime

rigid basalt
# rigid basalt agree i want the style of events we had on the last ones best

ai giving in eventpoints as in the last event requiring about 500 points a day ~ comming out to 2 hours of playing is the way i think
cause this event 450 eventpoints with mainly pvp giving event points its hard for players to get points and even for good players comes out to around 2.1h to earn 450 eventpoints if played as a trio or 3.1h if played as a duo or even far more for bad players which is way to much time

unborn smelt
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For me the sweetspot would be 2 hours grind a day

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because that'd leave me with ~1 hour left for other stuff (going out with friends, reading, playing another game) but i also don't mind if it's more

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Like in the monetisation blog and with the recent trend they made it clear the game needs funding - so just let my buy points at a reasonable price if i work so much i can't finish the event

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From a technical standpoint of event mechanics i like what they did with this one, but i think they overdid the PvP side, because many of the lower skilled players in their respective brackets (which in the top brackets i belong to too) will have issues gaining all those points through the non PvP way - and that's what i think makes this event kinda polarizing

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there's the people that are chronically successful in PvP which just amass points no issue (had that happen myself when carried by two of my friends) but if i play solo, or are rather uncuccessfull in PvP i got barely any points, and gaining like a handful of copies of a gun for grinding one BP level out inb 1-2 days just couldn't keep me motivated

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What i think led to this is that they replaced the big exploration rewards (what in past events were the cristmas trees to the presents or the scarecrows to the single pumpkins) with the snek points that you need to turn in at the center of PvP, aka the boss locations

rigid basalt
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its a way to pvp sided event from my opinion cause at the evnetstart i made about 14k evenpoints by playing solo vs trios as i had an mmr of 3 stars i got downtiered into 2star lobby which is insanly easy to solo-wipe with avtomat/crown/nitro/dolch while this kind of farm is not possible in higher mmrs as such my eventpointgain slowed drastically down once i reached 5 stars the point when i got into 6stars i had to get my mmr down with quickplay because i wasnt able to get more then ~20 points per round the highly unstable mmr of hunt in combination with a pvp sided event is just not the right way because there is only a verry slow gain of points with non pvp farming there should be a good balance inbetween like 55%pvp and 45% pve/searching for eventpoints

unborn smelt
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I mean PvP has to be pretty lucrative

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i'm absolutely fine with even a 65/35 split for example

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I think for me the event would have hit the sweetspot in PvP vs PvE balance if we'd have had the bigger exploration objectives back, but instead made the snek points earnable by killing AI in a certain way

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Because when in a team i think the lootable snake point mechanic was very good

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i just don't like it replacing the bigger exploration objectives

rigid basalt
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i agree but there still would have to be one change there needs to be a reward just for the kill like maby 3 points as often in high star lobbys ans well as lowstar lobbys u get 3rd-partied befor u can loot and then u get nothing which i also see as an issue there needs to be like some sort of eventpoint-reward given out after the match ended per kill ( excluding downing same hunter multible times

unborn smelt
rigid basalt
unborn smelt
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Like i hit the guy - don't know if he survived. But if you see you get 3 points you know he dies

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Ah yeah

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missed that mb

somber harbor
# unborn smelt The issue is that Hunt at it's core is a very occult, almost "weird west" theme,...

even at that the actual lore of a good few hunters who could be deemed "occult looking" aren't occult at all, like the daughter of decay just being someone who likes killing, or the lonely howl being someone who likes killing, or the headsman being someone who likes killing, or the hail mary being someone who likes killing for god, or the phantom, again just a man who likes killing who happens to have an oddly amazing prosthetic that is fully functional.

Ironically some of the hunters that are more occult in the lore look more plain, like the skinflint who had visions of the past present and future, the night seer and acolyte both are just people in long dripped out coats, Sofia who made a blood pact with death, the witch hunter who was raised to fight the unknown, or the archaeologist who was drawn to the bayou by a dream of children tumbling into water.

Then we have the people who are connected with the occult and look it, like Felis, the Prescient, the Revenant, the plague doctor, the bone doctor, and the wicked sister

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soft river
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avtomat in hunt is a fictional conversion of the mosin

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there was no automatic mosin

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there WAS a similar conversion of a bolt action like the mosin

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which hunt based it off

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huot rifle

viscid grove
# soft river no

Yes. Well, the invention and idea is. The way it's represented in-game, however, is an entirely different story and irrelevant.

unborn smelt
# somber harbor even at that the actual lore of a good few hunters who could be deemed "occult l...

Yeah we have the occult, be that vodoo as in the weird sisters case, or the "real" magic as in the revenant / witch doc's case or the corrupted by the moon ones in the last few wolf themed ones, we've got batshit insane caracters which are recruited straight from the asylum in lore, we've also got pretty regular looking ones Like the two detectives, the sprited, Sgt. Bridgewater, the Steeleyed, Lulu, the Kid, the 4 natives, Prodigal daughter, Carter, Billy, Redneck, Revenant/Bad hand (put them together because ones a stereotypical gambler the other the same but undead), Mountain man, Llorona, Marshal brewer and Hardin

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So there are quite a few "western" characters...

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they however all have a slight spin on them to make em more Hunt-ish whcih i doubt will go away

unborn smelt
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You propably won't see them taking all that many people very clearly 1 to 1 to the game

viscid grove
# unborn smelt they however all have a slight spin on them to make em more Hunt-ish whcih i dou...

No one's denying they put alittle flavor to it. In fact, I encourage alittle imagination and creativity. They did the same with The Kid and his lore. They didn't just call him Billy and grab their paycheck. So why wouldn't they put the same effort into a potential Doc Holiday skin? Seeing as he was technically a dentist and a gunslinger and a outlaw, they've got some room to do some impressive writing.

somber harbor
unborn smelt
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But as far as a western setting goes we have:

  • trapper -> Mountain man
  • gambler -> Bad hand and revenant
  • commoner -> Redneck, Gunrunner and maybe even Redshirt
  • soldiers -> Prodigal daughter, Sgt bridgewater and Turncoat
  • natives -> the 4 native american skins
  • Pimp -> Billy
  • prostitute -> Lulu
  • detectives -> The two detective skins
  • bartender -> spirited
  • Scientist -> the researcher

and on top a few nudges to popular western characters

  • Billy the kid -> the kid
  • Seeleyed -> somewhat a nudge to clint eastwoods man with no name
  • Carter -> Buffalo Bill iirc
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People often just want to see specific people - and not just people from a western setting i think...

somber harbor
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the two BB ones are hunting down their son who is just mental

unborn smelt
somber harbor
unborn smelt
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the way i understood it the red moon very much as a detrimental influence to him (might be wrong here tho) and his parents try to rid the bayou of their "missbehaving" shild

somber harbor
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Nothing about him being corrupted by the moon is mentioned in here

unborn smelt
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Nothing is specifically mentio0ned there - true, but we're actively in an event where the moons influence is portraid

somber harbor
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to me it just seems like his mum just found a bloodbath in the bayou with her son's howling in the distance

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the moon turned crimson with blood sounds more like a metaphor than anything else

unborn smelt
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i'm fairly sure this is what's hinted at with his "sanguine dreams"

unborn smelt
# somber harbor to me it just seems like his mum just found a bloodbath in the bayou with her so...

Every full moon, her immortal light would fall on New Orleans, and the crickets and fireflies would dance in the spotlight. But just as the Moon has dictated the turn of tides for millennia, the Sculptor began to dictate the Moon's influence on Earth. The Moon's light cast a spotlight onto people whose hearts were already starting to become twisted by the Sculptor. Mother caused harm to child, brother betrayed brother, and others let their minds wander into madness and desperation. Those who knew the power of both the Sculptor and the Moon began to plot and use the twisting of people's hearts to their advantage.

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from the description of the traitors moon event

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The moon has a significant murderous impact on people who are starting to become corrupted

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and i'm fairly certain that's what's happening to the lonely howl too

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Hunters, we sit between the passing of the Worm Moon and the rise of the Pink Moon. And down on the killing fields of Louisiana, the changing of the seasons from winter to spring sees a new rising darkness. Effigies, rifts, and strange clues are brought forth across the bayou under the influence of a Traitor's Moon, along with story and secrets about My Chary's ambitions for manipulating the corruption… But at this time of year, hope springs eternal too, and light can be found in the bountiful rewards on offer for those Hunters ready to face and conquer new challenges during the 21 days of The Traitor's Moon Event.
Further more is specifies "rise of the pink moon" here. which would coincide woith lonely howls bio of "sanguine dreams", IMO.

fluid kayak
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Are all of the maps in the game set in Louisiana?

tawny meadow
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Yes

fluid kayak
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Well I certainly wish our trees turned those nice orange colors in the fall down here, but they don't. We have 2 seasons....hot, and hotter, lol.

tawny meadow
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It also may be a reference to the exceptionally cold season you had back in the year Hunt is set on, but that's my wild assumption.

fluid kayak
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Yeah, not sure. It's pretty much the same for the whole state tho. I don't mind it on the map at all since I really miss seeing trees like that irl, lol. I was just curious if the entire setting was Louisiana or if the game was spreading out.

somber harbor
fluid kayak
somber harbor
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Desalle has more in common with Scotland than Louisiana lol

fluid kayak
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None of the western-like stuff really.....this area was founded and colonized by the French originally, so the style sort of mimics that as far as the old stuff goes. No western looking buildings. As far as a game goes, the maps would be boring if accurate, so the game is more fun because of it for sure.\

somber harbor
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Oh yeah definitely the compounds are really interesting overall, I just wish desalle didnt take so many liberties with the geography, especially bc of how the hills make firefights hellish lol

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You basically need to be on the high ground bc of how much of an advantage you get from it

fluid kayak
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yup.....depending on the gun of course.

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My understanding, if correct, is that this world is more like an alternate universe and not the same world we live in? If that's the case, then it's easier to get by with changes.

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Hell, I'm not even sure that there are mines anywhere in the state, even in the north. Agriculture was the thing here...and working the water.

somber harbor
crystal plume
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@unique epoch I mean yeah, it hasn't been able to for the longest time now ConcernedFrogeHat If it did at some point then it must've been at least 2-3 years ago since I don't remember any damage changes to it during that time

unknown.png
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Always had to hit the head with it

charred pine
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@viscid grove Regarding adding more "wild west" looking hunters, theres a lot of them in the Tier 1/2, I mean this guy kinda literally kinda looks like the Dentist

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I should take pictures of every regular hunter to make a gallery

atomic cipher
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@timber timber Pretty sure devs are well aware ppl are leaving night/fog/dusk/down maps pretty often. But it looks like they are just determined to push it anyway. I do not remember hearing anything about giving us an option to choose the time of the day, but what I keep hearing is this "amazing and well thought" comment that any change like that will divide the community. Which is probably the biggest WTF comment I heard about this game.

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fluid kayak
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With so many people passionate about this game expressing massive amounts of frustration over a small number of issues, I am quite surprised by the lack of communication from the devs. They could accomplish a lot by just letting people know that they are being heard. There are worse games that have more active dev teams with regards to communication.

unborn smelt
atomic cipher
# unborn smelt the dev's very much know that people leave those maps which is why they gutted t...

There we go again - splitting he community 🕵️ First - I keep getting maps other then Daylight way more than abysmal 8%. Every second game is not a daylight. And night maps seems to be going in bunches (if I get 1 night map, the second is 90% also gonna be night map). Second - yes, please slit the community. If vast majority do not want to play in night map/ will not choose this option, why force all these players play it?? The ones who enjoy it will select it and have fun. The ones who hate it will play other maps. Everybody wins.

unborn smelt
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there are definetly some - but the vast majority do not, or even worse claim they do and then do the opposite

unborn smelt
fluid kayak
atomic cipher
unborn smelt
atomic cipher
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This also includes new mods

unborn smelt
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The devs constantly do requested stuff to the point almost everything were getting is requested by now

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QP was requested by the community big time - as it is what heppened as a result of the questions for a solo only mode.
SBMM was a community request too.

fluid kayak
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Although I doubt that the resulting SBMM system is what people actually wanted, lol

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It's terrible

atomic cipher
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Well, in all seriousness, the time of day selection or a different mode (not current quickplay) seems like a more substantial change that can potentially has a bigger influence on the game's popularity.

unborn smelt
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there's really no winning this

unborn smelt
atomic cipher
unborn smelt
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the "issue" with Hunt in regards to popularity is that it's too hardcore for the casual crowd

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yet it's too casual for the hardcore crowd

fluid kayak
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The way the game is set up almost seems as tho they listen to the top % of the player base, everything seems to feed them. Even SBMM seems to throw the less skilled up to be farmed by the better players, which is 100% my experience.

unborn smelt
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For the casuals gunplay is too slow, too little forced run and gun.
but for actual hardcore players, movement is too arcady, missing drop and gun characteristics like diffrent sway, sprint in and out times, ads times etc.

And just in general, a lack of real customisation, both visual and performance ways is also a big issue for it.

atomic cipher
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Oh I see your message now

fluid kayak
unborn smelt
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Hunt is incredibly light on all those aspects - hun't movement is unrealistically fast with still almost no inertia to changing directions or airstrafing, it's gunplay makes most guns feel the exact same in the stats other games use for more fine distinctions (movespeed, ads speed, ads strafe speed, sprint in/out times, sway, etc) as well as weapon modding is non existent, hunt just allows selection of premodded guns

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in terms of legendaries they said they wanted to go for unique guns not applicable skins etc to make them feel more unique and with a backstory - but if everyone runs the same legendaries that are 100% carbon copies of each other it actually fails at what it wants to achieve

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where as a system that lets you mix and match both visual and performance modifications makes it feel far more unique for most players

fluid kayak
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I actually think the guns feel vastly different from each other. They've done a good job there.

unborn smelt
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And many casual players don't want to deal with permadeath and long waittimes until the game goes on again for example when awaiting a revive

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as well as with an overall economy

unborn smelt
# fluid kayak I actually think the guns feel vastly different from each other. They've done a ...

Well yes and no - in some ways they do, but it's undeniable that almost all rifles share the same base sway, Ads speed, movement speed, sprint in/out times, swapp speeds With only very few variations for example ADS strafe speed only changes scope or no scope, there's no distinction between Aperture, deadeye, marksman or sniper scope, and sway only changes a bit for weapons of the same class with adding a bayonett for example

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And for many hardcore players that combined with the lack of individualisation makes it kind of uninteresting...

atomic cipher
# unborn smelt Well if we look at games like Tarkov for example, tarkov goes the full hardcore ...

First of all thank you for a detailed reply 🍻 Now to the point. I'm definitely not suggesting Hunt to be going Tarkov route. Not only because I consider that game to be boring af, but just because these games are completely different in their setting an style. In this regard Hunt is unique, so why not playing on this strong side? For casual players devs could introduce a mode with something like - one small compound and shorter matches, with an optional goal other than killing other team(s). This could very well check the boxes for casual players in regards to faster gunplay and less running. For "hardcore players" they could simultaneously add new features for this mod (new guns, random guns, new gun characteristics)

unborn smelt
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Oh yeah i don't want Hunt to go the tarkov route eithe... But i think the lack of individualisation is where they loose tonns of players. This stuff grew to be in almost any game for a reason

fluid kayak
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Given the setting of the game, the monsters, and the supernatural in general, I can't see Hunt being the destination for gamers looking for realism, lol. It just needs to be a fun and engaging game with active devs to fix issues and add more regular content for ALL skill levels.

unborn smelt
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I'm not against adding new nodes in general, but it has to be carefully balanced with the existing modes and the size of the playerbase

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fluid kayak
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It's still pretty hardcore tho, it's not like you're a bullet sponge. It doesn't take much to drop you.

unborn smelt
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i started playing back in EA in March 2018 IIRC, and back then long ammo weapons would take longer to be tucked away and to draw, as well as have categorically more sway than medium and compact

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they removed that tho

unborn smelt
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Hunt is to hardcore for many casuals, jet to casual for many hardcore players

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it's in a weird limbo between the two

fluid kayak
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Hardcore players have plenty of options out there.

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Hunt should be a fun distraction for them in between sweating it out in hardcore games.

unborn smelt
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Also i'm not saying that's a bad thing, i'm just saying i think that's why hunt has difficulties growing fast and to a pretty big size

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Hunt has been growing pretty well considering we started at a ~1200 players playerbase

hexed shale
fluid kayak
# unborn smelt Also i'm not saying that's a bad thing, i'm just saying i think that's why hunt ...

One of the biggest issues there is getting people to try it. It's not an easy game to market and you really don't get a good idea of what the game is by the pics and description in the store. I can tell you from experience. I am a social gamer mostly, I like to play with my friends. My buddy had this game and wanted me to try it and when I looked it up in the Steam store I was not at ALL interested. Didn't have a solid idea as to what it was and it didn't seem like my thing. But luckily is was on sale and I gave it a shot just to play with my buddy and it ended up being one of my favorite games of all time. Getting people to try it is the challenge.

unborn smelt
unborn smelt
fluid kayak
hexed shale
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i wasnt clear, my apologies.

i think that tarkov is balanced statwise just fine. its just feels like it is catered to players who play 50 hours plus a week which IMO doesnt make it more hardcore, but rather more grindy and rpg like. while hunt is simply a better fir for those who have a normal amount of time to play

unborn smelt
unborn smelt
rotund epoch
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Is it just me or i really like night maps

unborn smelt
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But also here it's absolutely good to have your own prefrences

rotund epoch
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like night + fog

unborn smelt
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I don't like fog all that much tho

rotund epoch
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i hear many people complain about it but man it is fun for the atmosphere

unborn smelt
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like it's kinda cool - but it would IMO be so much cooler if there were individual wisps of fog and some clear sightlines

rotund epoch
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it would be a pain in the ass to implement into what is already a buggy mess

unborn smelt
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oh sure it would

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but it'd be so much cooler than white wall of artificially lowerd sight

rotund epoch
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yeah i kinda agree on that

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also i like night maps to mess with other people

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que avto incen

unborn smelt
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Like imagine banks of fog over shallow areas and bodies of water

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but you can go above fog level by getting to high points on the map

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I heccing love nightmaps

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bit sad that people abuse filters and gamma to see better than others but that can't be helped sadly

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But the atmosphere and visuals are A++

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like nightmaps with colored flares and fusees

rotund epoch
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yessss

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that

unborn smelt
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Or a shot of DB through the dark of night

rotund epoch
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well then again

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the main thing hunt needs to do now is

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region lock china to chinese players only

unborn smelt
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nah

rotund epoch
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asia is a pain in the ass to play with the amount of hackers around

unborn smelt
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I can't stand that all chinese cheat bias

rotund epoch
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hmm

unborn smelt
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lets not bring this here okay

wooden smelt
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Yes I feel skill gap when I play on asia. On east coast I’m 5 stars but if I play on asia 3 hrs I always drop to 4 star

rotund epoch
unborn smelt
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Pls lets not have that become about xenophobia okay and lets drop the topic

fluid kayak
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Thats a huge leap to xenophobia, lol. It's pretty common knowledge that they just don't view cheating as being a big deal like we do. Just a cultural thing.

main cradle
wooden smelt
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No one cares. They added ping limit since that I’ve never seen Chinese on US east. Just don’t never ever play on asia problem solved

main cradle
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That’s all I’ll say

rotund epoch
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maybe because im in asia?

wooden smelt
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Depends on time of the day

rotund epoch
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well theres oceania

fluid kayak
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I get annihilated by more people above my skill level that I should never even be matched against than I do cheaters. I'm being cheated by SBMM 🤣

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I think I've only actually witnessed one blatant cheater so far. It doesn't seem nearly as bad as other shooters.

wooden smelt
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I think all cheaters are 6 stars obviously. Let them fight each other. Try not to reach 6 star yourself and don’t play with people that are 6 star mmr you’ll most likely never face cheaters

main cradle
wooden smelt
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I don’t have actual proof just talking from my experiences past 3 years. Since SBMM I’ve faced 5-6 blatant cheaters they were all on EU also all of them were 6 stars. Don’t accuse 4-5 stars are cheaters cuz mostly it’s just lucky wallbang

unborn smelt
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I mean cheater obviously aren't all 6*

wooden smelt
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Yh I said most of them

unborn smelt
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And i know a lot of 6* that you'd believe they cheat but they absolutely don't

wooden smelt
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I did not mean most of 6 stars are cheating. Never said this

unborn smelt
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I personally think you can't identify a cheater by his stars, name, or a VAC ban on record.
IMO you identify cheaters by suspicious behaviour and that alone

unborn smelt
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just a general statement of my view about it

wooden smelt
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I believe most of cheaters are 6 stars. 4-5 are the most populated mmr bracket. If people use cheat I’m sure it will increase their mmr 1 or 2 just calculate

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We now have SBMM ping limit I don’t have cheater issue lately (east coast) but when the event started it was awful

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somber harbor
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just play the nightmaps, try something new for a change

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don't be afraid to get a little bit close to an enemy

main cradle
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Hell that’s kinda what nightmaps do. It makes you revaluate ya strategy and nudges you to be more close and aggressive.

somber harbor
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like man I hate desalle and I still play on it because it's a waste of time to load into a match nd just leave

main cradle
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While not making long range engagement nul

somber harbor
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If I were to just leave the match every time it was not the conditions I perform the best in I'd be miserable lmao

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some of the best matches can be night or fog maps too

main cradle
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Like you can hate the map, but it’s not really infringing on ya abilities to score a bounty and such

somber harbor
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yeah lmao

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reminds me of the guy who came in here saying he doesn't even play dusk or sundown maps either lol

main cradle
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Like saying night maps should be removed or whatever, cause you don’t get a kill and you died, isn’t a good argument.

main cradle
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Does he hate the fact it’s not midday?

somber harbor
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I get not wanting to play them bc of nvidia filters but the devs added a fog effect to them with this new night one

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you know, to stop people seeing further than they should be able to by using a filter

main cradle
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The fog effect is pretty neat tbh. It’s mostly by the water from what I’ve seen

somber harbor
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it's incredibly noticeable if you play with scopes

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made me just decide that I'm gonna get good at lining up scope shots before ADSing though

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Night maps can also be p damn funny I've noticed tonnes of people just crouchwalking everywhere and jumpscares are getting common

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like I'll turn a corner to find some immersed person in a dark skin like the prodigal daughter just crouchwalking with a mosin

main cradle
worthy knoll
ruby magnet
# somber harbor I get not wanting to play them bc of nvidia filters but the devs added a fog eff...

Unfortunately this is one of my pet peeves when faced with a night mission. You can artificially just brighten the night on your end with 3rd party software to make it easier to see enemies in the dark. Monitor type or settings can also DRASTICALLY affect visibility without the game giving a good set of guidelines other than a gamma slider recommendation to give a level brightness playing field.

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I mean I'll still play the night mission, but it's really bothersome you hear the enemy first, wait for the ambush and you still need 2 seconds to peer into the blackest of voids in a forest while they spot you in half a second due to software or hardware disparity.

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Best of all... no one confirms nor deny this fact that it's present, but visibility has always been funky on the 'night time' setting maps.

somber harbor
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just something you need to take on the chin, people do the same on console with monitor settings

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had a guy snipe me at 100m with a single headshot on console then do the exact same to my mate so he def had contrast turned up or smth

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also sometimes have people who use kbm on console too, or the occasional actual hacker with an aimbot or wallhacks lol

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it's not as advanced as the cheating on pc but it's more sleekit

ruby magnet
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Take it on the chin... after 1000 hours I'm kinda done taking it on the chin, because I just get fucked by something out of my control.
When I do PvP I expect to be able to outgun or outposition my enemy and that I died due to a fuck up.

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But if some visual effect penalizes the average player but doesn't do so for people with these advantages... feels complete asinine and a death just doesn't feel earned.

somber harbor
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this isn't an issue only in hunt though, it extends to every other pvp game on the market

ruby magnet
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An aimbot or blatant cheat feels less infuriating for some reason. A program removing a filter... is still cheating difficulty but it feels more unfair to me because it's still the human needing to aim the gun but them just seeing more than you're allowed to.

somber harbor
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there will always be people doing anything to get some form of advantage over others by legit means or illegit means

ruby magnet
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Yes. Software wise I feel its the responsibility of the developers to catch 3rd party programs doing this.

Having your HARDWARE I.e. monitor type or quality affect your games visibility is just a plain oversight

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Darkness compensation on computer screens is a thing. But its pure negligence to give advice on how to work around or with this system or how it interacts with the graphical engine.

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yup i see that now

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solid nacelle
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Anyone else having a lot of issues with not being able to switch to tools or consumables unless they switch to something else first?

candid igloo
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What happen to the servers 4-6 days ago? after something happened to the server or a shadow patch i dropped from 80-100 fps to 30-50 fps i dont know what it is but there was not a patch on steam and i have played with lots of people during these days that said the have lost between30-50% in fps so there most be something u have done at that time so plz can u fix it or just revert back so we can play with better fps

unborn wadi
unborn wadi
stray horizon
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is that a thing?

main cradle
stray horizon
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when I think of cheaters I think of angry lil white bois personally

main cradle
unborn wadi
main cradle
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Bruh what are you on about?

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Rang said to like drop it.

dim heron
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Ahem

unborn wadi
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Need a cough drop?

main cradle
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Ahem

unborn wadi
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Do you need one too? Is covid going through this channel?

main cradle
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What.

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Dude why ya bring that up?

unborn wadi
# stray horizon is that a thing?

People who haven’t experienced it first hand will tell you it’s a thing. People that play in those specific region servers will tel you there’s no bias. It is what it is

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Bring what up?

main cradle
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Dude, all this

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I don’t know what ya on about but like

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Mans said to not bring it up or whatever

unborn wadi
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Maybe because I’m tired of people with absolutely no idea trying to invalidate my experience and the experience of those of us that do play in these servers. Mods want to hide their heads in the sand and call it xenophobia, or say it’s not an issue, but that’s not the case

main cradle
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Dude, nobody is saying that like

unborn wadi
dim heron
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When you specify a race and say they do nothing but cheat it is considered xenophobic. This is your last warning, drop the subject.

unborn wadi
main cradle
dim heron
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You just did by quoting Rango ?

unborn wadi
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What’s being said is there is a large portion of players from that region that are cheating. No one is generalising saying that everyone does, but that a large portion feel like they do and it’s a problem that is unaddressed

queen jungle
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Some american dudes pick a chinese name and hack, personally I think they're all NSA agents.

main cradle
unborn wadi
unborn wadi
main cradle
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And nobody is saying there isn’t a problem

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It’s the fact that the first thing people jump to is that the cheater is from Asia.

unborn wadi
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I can play multiple games, see something sus, and unsurprisingly, I’ll look at their steam profile, 9 times out of 10 they are from a specific country, have a very new, or low level steam profile, low hours in the game, and often a ban somewhere else as well

unborn wadi
main cradle
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Ok so you’re from Asia

unborn wadi
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YES!

main cradle
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That’s cool

unborn wadi
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Was that not obvious?!

dim heron
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You know you can lie about where you're from on steam yea?

main cradle
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But

People from Asia aren’t the ones with the bias

It’s the people from like. Idk, everywhere else

unborn wadi
main cradle
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It’s the internet

unborn wadi
unborn wadi
dim heron
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Hundreds of sus... I think theres more than sus happening here.

queen jungle
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Every region is going to have cheaters, from their own country

main cradle
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YES CAUSE ITS A PLOT BY THE NSA.

unborn wadi
queen jungle
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Well if American Servers or European Servers have a cheating problem with Chinese named players, it's very unusual due to ping and China's Firewall.

dim heron
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As have I

unborn wadi
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Please don’t act like you know what it’s like unless you actually play in the Asia servers

dim heron
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Just because you think someone is sus doesn't mean they are

unborn wadi
main cradle
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But fr, I’ll be blunt.

Nobody is invalidating you

dim heron
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Ah right, the profile that can be lied about

unborn wadi
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There are a lot of markers, as I highlighted above

main cradle
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Nobody is saying you’re wrong, nobody is fucking saying that your words mean nothing

unborn wadi
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Nah this dumb ass mod is trying to invalidate me. Typical mod behaviour here

main cradle
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.

dim heron
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Ah yes, insults.

unborn wadi
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I’m out

dim heron
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Because when you're right, Insult

unborn wadi
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I’m beating my head on a brick wall

dim heron
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Well don't do that, might hurt yourself

main cradle
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That doesn’t exist

wind stream
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@signal mural please leave feedback for game feedback, you can discuss feedback posts in here

signal mural
wind stream
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np

signal mural
# wind stream np

Can you PM me my deleted text so I can post it here? I was trying to be fair in my wording choices and don't have the time/space to rewrite it now.

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@main kayak Are you an Evagelist or a Christian? Your username is could be considered disrespectful.

Either way, religion and zealotry are creepy. Horror is perverted "reality". Christianity, as well as every religion, has a darkside and it makes it that much more sinister when it is polarized. Penitents do exists, mentally ill people do exist, and the utilization of faith as a means of pushing an agenda is as old as time itself.

As someone who was raised Christian, let me say your concerns for your religion are unwarranted here. If we were to neuter and censor everything that could offend someone the world would be an unimaginative and bland place. Your faith is a personal choice and shouldn't be so easily affronted by twisted horror renditions in a fantasy world.

fathom geyser
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@jaunty heath go back to playing fortnite

main kayak
burnt mulch
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excusing any number of crusades, sexual/domestic abuse, salem witch trials, etc etc.
I mean seriously though it's just lore.

wind stream
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Please take discussions regarding religion to another server or DMs

burnt mulch
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there's a lot more fucked up shit than inverted christianity in hunt, I don't think this is worth getting worked up over.

main kayak
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The partiality is crazy lol

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Delete his comment too

signal mural
queen jungle
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@twin mauve There used to be solo only BH during early access, but it was a very bad experience. Thus, we got QP as Hunt's solo mode and going solo in BH is meant as an extra challenge against duos or trios.

main kayak
burnt mulch
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... says the guy also not taking it to dms.

main kayak
burnt mulch
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yeah I'm not touching religion with a 10 foot pole.

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the point is, the Penitent is not some kind of direct attack or criticism of christianity.

main kayak
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Follow the rules guys

burnt mulch
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I am discussing Hunt.

main kayak
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But it involves religion

burnt mulch
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there's a difference between religion being the main topic, and hunt being the main topic.

main kayak
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Take it up with the mods not me

burnt mulch
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I'm not. because I'm still discussing Hunt. The mods decided that you had gone too off-topic in trying to argue against "the dark side of christianity" and even going into islam.

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and this tangent has now gone off-topic, so I'm just gonna let you do you.

main kayak
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All I said was that if crytek did another religion there would be a Controversy

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Nobody can prove to me that the references in hunt aren’t a mockery.

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And I doubt crytek will speak up

burnt mulch
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I doubt anyone can prove anything to you, at least to the extent that you would be convinced otherwise.

main kayak
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I’m a man of truth and integrity so you would have to provide me evidence to prove me otherwise

main kayak
twin mauve
# queen jungle <@216113959525285888> There used to be solo only BH during early access, but it ...

Why was it a bad exprience?

It can't be worse than current quickplay, which is pretty much just bounty hunt, but since you don't have to extract, you just camp till the timer is over, not to mentoin randomness in getting guns, which can make or break your game.

And I don't mind an option to go against duos and trios to be an extra challenge, that is something you should always be able to opt into, but the problem is that it's less of a "extra challenge" and more of "you're screwed from the start", especially if you spawn sandwiched between two duos.

Extra challenge should be exactly that, extra challenge, not player being punished for not having a someone who wants to play with them, in the exact way they want to play.

signal mural
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@obsidian wyvern
I've addressed both the dead-tab Contracts and the night maps complaints in multiple suggestions and posts. The best solution I could come up with was a 'wager' system, where you could use Blood Bonds to enter into particular contracts where you could incrementally influence the stipulations. For example, 5BBs to choose time of day, 5 more to choose which boss, 5 more to choose Solo or Duo Boss map. The wager would be placed on your character so if you died enemy Hunters could loot your wagered spendings.

I think that's a pretty fair trade off for people who accept the RNG and those who can make choice loadouts.

queen jungle
signal mural
# main kayak In other words you exactly have no idea of what you’re talking about, in these c...

No, I am compliant to the Mods request. I'm quite well educated and welcome to my point of view and was rather utilizing my time to respond to a Suggestion to create a critique and open dialogue.

I'm not about to DM or PM with you or anyone about matters of religion. Faith isn't truth and calling out other members of a gaming community as "not knowing what they're talking about" is not a mark of integrity. You are weakening your own argument by flame-baiting. I respectfully refuse to be a further part of your agenda here. Please do not continue to @ me in this conversation as I will take it as harassment and report you.

signal mural
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If people extract due to a sub-optimal situation that's their choice but I think overcoming loadouts designed for a stipulated contact should be a rewarding incentive for those who que normally.

somber harbor
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idek if there is a solution to night and fog maps, people will just extract anyway and if they lock extraction till all bosses are dead or the bounties have been taken then people will just sit about and wait instead of playing

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ultimately though if you get 5 night maps in a row that's just rng

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it do be like that

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it's like farming for gear in MMOs in a sense, you can do the one thing 20 times over and not see the gear you want

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nd you just gotta accept it because that is how rng is by nature

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sometimes you'll get what you want, sometimes you don't

signal mural
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At 5 BloodBond the costs aren't extraordinary... you can earn 5 a match if things go halfway decent.

If more players are paying BBs to play daytime maps then more servers will be daytime. Same thing with night maps.

twin mauve
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Or you know, stuff like that could be completly free? If you could choose which map at which time of day would you want to be sent to, the devs would have clear information if 90% plays (for example) Bayou at Daytime, while 5% plays DeSalle at night

somber harbor
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Or you could just play the night maps

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Sinple solution rlly

charred pine
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Paying Hunt dollars for guaranteed day time could do the economy good, or well not the prestige 100 people with infinite money

somber harbor
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Devs made them for them to be played

twin mauve
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They pretty much require you to crank up your gamma to the top setting to be able to see anything on your screen

charred pine
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If people want to spent time to extract and queu again cuz they dont like night maps, they can keep doing it

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The night maps are so comfy to me, really makes the setting shine

somber harbor
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Night maps are so fhnny

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I wish the devs would remove the green filter from the new one tho

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Makes immolators less pretty

charred pine
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Approaching a compound and seeing the muzzle flashes go all around feels tense

twin mauve
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I mean, it is pretty

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but it also makes seeing some hunters next to impossible

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There is a fine line between something that looks good, and something that plays good

charred pine
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They could try something with tools to light up compounds, make the lamp better and part of the default loadout or something

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The hiding in a bush / behind trees is easy in daylight as well, not as easy but still

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Maybe bright red eyes to hunters with bounty, dunno

somber harbor
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yeah make the lamp default on night maps

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no bush camping allowed

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😈

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electric lamp always on, the lights flicking through the forests

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there really isn't a solution though, they've added a fog effect to stop people abusing filters to see further than they should be able to and people still whine about them

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letting people choose would just make every night map basically a dead server

charred pine
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Easy daily bounty for me 😚

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Might be a real headache to make the night maps more popular for the devs

somber harbor
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they've already had their spawn rates reduced to 8%

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if you get them constantly then you're just unlucky

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It was only in like April this year when I first found out there was even a night map for desalle lol

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cause I just didn't get a desalle night map at all

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it was always stillwater or lawson

charred pine
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I heard from reliable sources (reddit) its actually 90%

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8% for night and another 8% for fog right?

signal mural
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I personally like the night maps and sure it can be frustrating against hunters like Krampus but I like the tension. I rarely take a light source tool. I play whatever map comes and don't extract unless I forgot to re-up my summons or poorly timed recruiting a Hunter without gear just before deployment.

fathom geyser
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anyone complaining about night maps is just a long ammo meta slave change my mind :^)

nimble spire
burnt mulch
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@fathom geyser did you know that the martini henry reloads faster than the springfield lol

quick kettle
burnt mulch
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stats are garbage

fathom geyser
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yes they are

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its about damn time they no longer are

fathom geyser
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i was just memeing anyway

stray horizon
stray horizon
fathom geyser
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lamp needs rework

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fact.

burnt mulch
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cant even use it to flash people cuz they just aim at the beacon is lit! Gondor calls for aid

stray horizon
stray horizon
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it should be more blinding at distance then people would actually use it

fathom geyser
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fact is, its just a bad tool

stray horizon
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lol tru, it should be less obvious where the sources, if you get a light shown in your eyes at night you just ain't seeing anything

fathom geyser
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yeah but then it'd be op lmao

stray horizon
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nah people would still never take it because how would you know you're about to go into a night map you're going to waste a tool most of the time so maybe that risk should be worth it being strong

burnt mulch
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I dont think that level of variance in power is healthy.

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it basically boils down to rng, or just quitting until you get a night map.

fathom geyser
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yeah

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"oh woops, day time map, guess i only have 3 tools this round"

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lmfao

burnt mulch
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nerf medkit SmugEddy

fathom geyser
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REMOVE medkit*

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why have something you will always take 100% of the time even be an option

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its dumb and should be a default function

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free up a tool slot

burnt mulch
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naah make it a decision on whether or not to bring it, or have good alternatives

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base medkit only needs a bit of a change to consider alternatives like some variant of a regen shot. Doctor and other medkit traits just push it waaay over the top

charred pine
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It is a bit silly that 2 out of 4 tools are pretty much must have and melee tool is also way better than just buttstock so its a half-must have

burnt mulch
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at least you get a choice of melee tool.

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you also do sort of have options like silenced guns.

somber harbor
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Don't need a melee tool if you rock a riposte and brawlee

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Brawler

burnt mulch
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brawler
🤢

wicked jolt
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this idea of ​​being able to buy walls is one of the funniest things I've ever read here

signal mural
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I think mounted lights on shotguns could be nice, although not era appropriate.

wicked jolt
burnt mulch
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you can buy walls, its called concertina bomb SmugEddy

twin mauve
fathom geyser
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@queen jungle what

unborn smelt
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@gloomy raven !report

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!report

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If you would like to report a player, you can do so on the Team Details tab on your Match Summary screen. It is also accessible in the Last Match tab at any time. If you have additional proof you would like to provide, you can find out how to reach out to official support here: #customer-support

unborn smelt
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You can report for intentional teamkilling

fathom geyser
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what if the person you teamkill is a hacker

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is it allowed then

unborn smelt
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no

fathom geyser
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:(

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ill do it anyway

unborn smelt
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just report them

fathom geyser
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well yeah

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obviously

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but they ruin our fun

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we ruin their fun

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not to mention that many hackers ive reported have gone unpunished

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seeing as they still play the game

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which is sad

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but yeah

signal mural
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@fathom geyser I'm kind of indifferent. I don't think medkits should be standardized into the loadouts but there isn't really usually that many tools that I consider necessary that I fill up all 4 slots. Generally it is melee (if a primary/secondary doesn't have a blade attachment), medkits, smokes (if teaming) and then one optional - decoys, trips, w/e. It might be interesting to have alternatives like a syringe kit that you could take 3 syringes into instead of using a consumable slot. Or a burn-trauma kit that had only one use & that couldn't be recover out of a tool box.

I like being able to fix the quickslot for a medkit and not holding 'h' to heal from a universal equipment.

unborn smelt
fathom geyser
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true

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but rangorok

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we all know you cant say yes to teamkilling hackers

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cuz youre a mod here

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but deep down

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you agree

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<3

unborn smelt
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So ideal bahaviour would be report and move on

fathom geyser
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yes yes

fathom geyser
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but you could also have a quickslot for medkit

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instead of holding H to heal

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you press H to get out the medkit

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and then heal

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still a quickslot

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just not a tool one

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ya know

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and yeah the syringe kit and burn trauma kit variant sounds great too

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i like the idea

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why not

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@gloomy raven report them and theyll be banned. -1000xp is not the only punishment, unless you let it be.

signal mural
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Yeah, but the tools lack usefulness... freeing up a slot might just mean that poison/barb tripping becomes more popular... which is a valid tactic but costly (not only in h-dollar value but inventory space).

fathom geyser
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it also leaves room for adding more tools in the future though. because when they add tools now it'll only be "oh great another tool i cant use because i only ever have 1 free slot"

signal mural
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You lose XP for team killing? My buddy accidentally grenaded me yesterday. He'll be sorry to hear he got negative XP. Ha!

fathom geyser
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lmao yeah you do

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though i dont think its actually 1000xp

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i think its -400

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not sure though

twin mauve
fathom geyser
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damn thats a wacky laodout

twin mauve
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also, it's probably the weapon I'm most familar with when it comes to bullet timeings

fathom geyser
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fair enough

signal mural
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But then, nightime and fog is your friend... shotgunners and cqc builds thrive in the low-visibility maps.

twin mauve
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My monitor might be bricked, but I can't see anything on nighttime maps without gamma cranked up to the top. I'd rather play this game in a prettier form, that being on a sensible gamma, than on one that allows me to see anything

fathom geyser
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well its hard to judge. "cant see anything" for one person might be "see quite clearly" for another. so yeah, maybe your monitor is weird, but also maybe you're just not used to games this dark

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or a mix of both

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signal mural
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I sometimes think it also is strange to hear people complain about visibility or camping in a game that is based around hunting, out manuvering, or misleading your prey & having patience. I'm not trying to say a bit of balance isn't nice but not everyone plays Hunt for the same reason and no one group or the other should force their preferred playstyle on the game. I think the diversity of Hunt's following makes for an interesting and diverse mix of tactics that in clashing can be really make for a wide range of memorable encounters.

Sometimes you run into groups who have made 'breach & clear' loadouts (stickies, shotties, & flashes). Sometimes trappers & poisoners. Sometimes bombardier with a full team using explosive x-bow & loads of grenades & TNT.

Not everyone is a streamer playing a meta or meme loadout - thankfully.

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queen jungle
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Medkit is absolutely optional, it's just that most hunters don't dare take the risk of going in without one.

crystal plume
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Ehh, I'd also consider it a necessity

normal horizon
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I consider healing items only necessary for hunters going in expecting to get shot

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I for one, never get shot

crystal plume
balmy sparrow
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Could it possibly be because you never play the game?

normal horizon
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Blasphemy

signal mural
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Too busy snaffeling sneks so sneakily...

In my case, medkit is often unnecessary due to every bullet getting lodged in my head.

balmy sparrow
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But ye i get your point
Medkits are absolutely optional

tawny meadow
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Weapons too

balmy sparrow
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I don't take them and win more times than one'd imagine

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Mostly because there are such things like unow
World spawned resources

balmy sparrow
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Like
I highly doubt medkit will help with a headshot

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edgy marsh
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I recommend adding A new ranking system which goes from Bronze - Silver - Gold - Platinum - Diamond - Master (Lowest to highest). As well as adding a mode strictly for rank and one for just normal games (which doesn't affect your mmr/rank). I believe this would bring much more fun and competition between players, I myself would love to see this and play more often as I will have something to grind for.

balmy sparrow
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If i could take it without dying it wasn't stealing

fathom geyser
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and a more fitting naming scheme at that

balmy sparrow
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It depends

edgy marsh
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Why can't you

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I can

edgy marsh
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People out here saying "I was 6 stars yesterday" and is 4 stars

balmy sparrow
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I've been stuck in my three and a half stars for about thousand hours now

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Never left it

edgy marsh
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thats cuz u bad

balmy sparrow
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Fair point

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But wasn't that what you said

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That you can't be stuck in a star rating

edgy marsh
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no, im trying to say how easy it is

fathom geyser
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that has nothing to do with naming the ranks stars vs naming them bronze silver gold though.

the MMR system is just fucked in general

balmy sparrow
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Tru

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the ranking system is a joke. People writing in the LFG chats "LF 6 stars" and getting 4 star players that claim they wer 6 stars yesterday. This wouldn't happened if there was a real ranking system that was more serious . You affect this "stars" rank every game since there is no option to play a normal game to avoid affecting your mmr. It's like your hop into a ranked game every game as the game doesn't offer anything else like other games. As well as it's too easy to climb these ranks, I can derank myself to 3 stars and climb back to 6 stars withing 6 hours. In a real ranking system this wouldn't be possible and would take much longer.

fathom geyser
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m8 i'm hardstuck 3-4 stars and ive seen groups that cosisted of a 6* and two 1* that obviously ranked down on purpose to smurf

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and somehow theyre still allowed to queue in "skill based" matchmaking

edgy marsh
fathom geyser
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its just a stupid system

edgy marsh
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This is exactly why I want to implement this system i recommended

fathom geyser
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well

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your "system" isnt really a system

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but yeah

edgy marsh
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it would benefit players like you and me.

fathom geyser
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a change is in order

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if you queue with someone 2 stars away from your rank, you shouldnt be allowed to queue in skill based

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and the fact that gaining mmr is entirely dependant on the star ranking of the enemy you kill and the enemy that kills you is dumb

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just

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overhaul it all

edgy marsh
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I really really really hope the devs will implement this new rank system I wrote. Me and my friend would 100% play this game much more.

fathom geyser
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@queen jungle im curious what you have against accurate and working stats 🤔

fluid kayak
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Yeah, the current system sucks..it's way to reactive. One game where I land a lucky shot on a guy way better than me doesn't mean I'm ready for the big time, nor does it mean that guy is no longer worthy of his rank, lol. It should look at bigger picture and adjust slower.

hearty rivet
fluid kayak
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I also think it sucks how you can queue in as a solo and it adjusts. This makes it easy for good players to jump in and farm weaker players. If people want the challenge, let them solo against equals.

fathom geyser
main cradle
fathom geyser
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wait nvm

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that was K/D

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it affects mmr?

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bruh

hearty rivet
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that’s how they downrank

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they just idle in QP to get killed

fathom geyser
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wow

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and keep their KD

hearty rivet
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yup

fathom geyser
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its really hard to believe that this is a modern game sometimes

main cradle
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Ok cool

fluid kayak
hearty rivet
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Yup, sucks that so many people are selfish asshats that wanna farm low levels to feed their ego.

Like sure I get that 6* lobby meta is stale and all but these people don’t give a damn that maybe legit 3* people don’t enjoy getting farmed by someone that is objectively way too good to be in their lobbies.

But those smurfs having easier games is apparently worth making the experience of nine other people worse in their world.

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I thought the discrepancies in MMR is what made the star rating jump more. So... smurfing down to MMR 2 to go in as a solo against trios of MMR1-2... would increase your K/D but not necessarily make you jump up in MMR. So it is a quicker way down than up... which just makes the system worse.

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I agree QP should be completely devoid of MMR influence. If your MMR isn't used for matching in QP it shouldn't affect it for other game modes.

hearty rivet
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It seems obvious, yeah. I can’t even think of any argument for the way it’s currently handled, like what could possibly be the motivation for the devs to do it this way?

somber harbor
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Caring about rank is the most foolish thing to do in this game

edgy marsh
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If you don't care about rank then by all means play "Normal game" which won't affect your rank and you'll be able to have fun doing what you usually do. But for me who is a competetive player, I really want this new rank system so I have something to grind for. It's not a foolish thing to care about rank in this game, people write in LFG chats they want to play with a specific star players. If this new rank system I want gets implemented, I will be able to do much more an have more fun and you as a regular Hunt showdown player will still be able to play the game as normal, and if you later decide you want to test your skills in a ranked game and gain a rank title, you'll also be able to do that. There is no downside to this really.

fathom geyser
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you think 1-3* players enjoy getting destroyed by 6* with 3000h experience?

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this isn't cs:go

hearty rivet
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I mean I don’t care about my rank as in it’s not something I’m proud of or that I would show off to anyone to brag about it.

What I care about is having games that are as fair as possible.

signal mural
edgy marsh
# signal mural The downside is it splits the playerbase unnecessarily because most players woul...

I don't see the problem, people will do as they like, if majority wants to play ranked then people just has to accept that it's the playerbase's choice and they are free to choose what they wanna play. You also confirmed that my idea will be a good implementation by saying most players will play ranked in hopes of being matched with players of similar skill, which is also the reason why I would like this new ranked system implemented into this game.

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Every good PvP game has a ranked system, I don't understand why Hunt Showdown still hasn't put this ranked system into their game too.

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That's not what I said. It isn't an affirmation of your idea. I said I don't want a ranked/unranked gameplay mode deviding the playerbase. What you're asking for is a more detailed and expanded MMR system that cannot fluxuate as easily. Plenty of people request that and maybe sometime it will see a revision. But you're also asking for a "normal" mode which is to say unranked where player-skill and preformance has nothing to do with the matching. I'm saying that's unnecessary and a waste of programming time.

edgy marsh
# signal mural That's not what I said. It isn't an affirmation of your idea. I said I don't wan...

It's very much affimative of what I said as you confirm that most player will "choose" to play ranked games over normal games. If the devs wanna listen to their playerbase then they should implement new ranked system, and a normal mode in the game isn't a waste of programming, you say it like you're working for them and have to do this yourself lol. Why does it matter to you? You'll get more modes to choose between, and if you're unhappy about then I can understand but saying it's a waste of programming is just wrong. People will be able to try out new custom builds in normal games and testing out new stuff without affecting their mmr/rank. Every game needs this so people can practice, this game doesn't have this which really sucks.

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I’d prefer a solo only mode over anything else.

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edgy marsh
# main cradle Yeah the star system or whatever can use some tweaks but Adding a ranked mode i...

I believe it would be fixed if it's replaced. You wouldn't want to derank yourself from a "Master" rank to trash on newbies whilst nobody gives a sh*t about stars system, since it's so easy to climb to 6 star and you can climb down as fast too. You might be feeling like trashing some newbies one day and loose a few games on purpose and get matched up with 3 stars, then climb up to 6 stars again fast. This wouldn't be possible if it had a good rank system as I want to implement. And also, a new rank system would give it more of a competetive style, I much rather say I'm Diamond or Master rank in Hunt Showdown than some wack "I'm 6 Stars". Implement this and 90% of the problems from matchmaking will be gone. And those tryhards will have a harder time to ruin the fun for newbies as they will have to go into ranked games and loose many times before finally maybe loosing an entire rank (For instance Master down to Diamond) and you would still meet good people, they should make it harder to get down to the low level like Silver og Bronze. Either way this would only make the game better and I believe more people would put effort into the game, as for now there is literally nothing to grind for, if they add ranks into this game I will finally have something to grind for.

main cradle
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Yeah but hunt ain’t like that

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It ain’t some strict competitive game

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Look, I got nothing against ya idea, and hey maybe it’ll work

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But I ain’t willing to write out a full on paragraph about why a ranked mode would be bad.

wooden smelt
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the game already has ranked mode called sbmm

signal mural
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Your idea isn't well fleshed out or original. You are just renaming the stars into a title/rank. 1 star is bronze, 6 star is master. This is just ego stroking. If you are so concerned about your "rank" then play the meta or try out new tactics at the risk of losing your precious status. "Normal" mode as you put it is just matching without MMR. You tick a box and you are there.

Leaderboards were removed from the game because it was pretty unaminous that they promoted toxic gameplay & cheating.

main cradle
edgy marsh
# signal mural Your idea isn't well fleshed out or original. You are just renaming the stars in...

I didn't say it was original, it's a copy of the ranked system from Rainbow six siege and league of legends. If you guys don't like it then it's fine with me, but don't say it's a bad idea, because it isn't Ranked modes has been a huge part of many games and it should come to Hunt showdown too, it's finally a game I'm good at and it really annoys me that it doesn't offer a ranked system other than stars which isn't really a rank other than telling their system that this guy is good, place him with good players. That's it, and you can loose stars so fast it's ridicilous, compared to other game's rank systems where it takes a long time to reach a certain rank and you can't fall down from that rank as easily. People are complaining about the matchmaking, but you guys do realize there isn't two modes to choose from like strictly affects your mmr and a mode which doesn't affect it? Not to mention ,the 6 star players being able to derank to low star ranks so easily, which wouldn't be that easy if they implement a REAL rank system where it's much harder to go up and down in rank which makes it not worth doing for these tryhard newbie hunters. This is a good idea and it should be implemented. For those who don't value ranks in this game, feel free to play normal game whilst the rest of us competitive players like me play our Ranked games and go for higher ranks. As for now, prestige rewards is a joke and there is no purpose to grind in the game other than to buy new hunters which isn't really a big deal.

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If you really think your idea is gold, then I would suggest you refine it (name criteria for the rankings, the frequency of fluxuation, the decay rate & frequency of new leaderboards and/or seasons, and devise a better practice to avoid cheats as a service in-game) and post it in Ideas& Suggestions to guage player reception.

edgy marsh
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You're right, I will.

main cradle
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My rebuttal: what about normal mode? If everyone is playing ranked, then normal would be a ghost town

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But whatever, if you want hunt to add this mechanic in just to tickle ya own ego, go ahead or whatever

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I ain’t gonna bug bout this anymore

hearty rivet
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y’all need to start using paragraphs meowdundundun

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@tranquil hill Did they specifically say they will announce the drops exclusively on Facebook? That sounds… wrong.

tranquil hill
edgy marsh
# main cradle My rebuttal: what about normal mode? If everyone is playing ranked, then normal ...

There will always be people playing normal, I see every now and then in the LFG chats there are people looking for just casual play and no tryharding, these are the type of players that will hop on normal games. Other games has this mode and it's always a match to be found in normal mode. Most cases, it takes longer to find a ranked game than a normal game, so you must'nt worry about normal players not being able to find people in normal mode.

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karmic ivy
# edgy marsh I didn't say it was original, it's a copy of the ranked system from Rainbow six ...

Its a bad idea for Hunt. It would be a bad idea to split the player base at this point. And further, it is not as easy to de-rank as you are describing. I think you are exaggerating based on what I have seen. If you look at it objectively it seems an appropriate balance between being responsive, and being "too easy" to de-rank. I can agree it is a forgone conclusion that many will want to de-rank, so it can't be too easy.

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hearty rivet
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I feel like a few hours difference in communication aren’t the end of the world when we’re talking about news regarding a video game

charred pine
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When they extend the deadline for a competion by like, 12 hours, I do think they should do it asap

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We asked for them to update it here as well

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So it couldve gone completely without here

somber harbor
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like people saying you shouldn't need to buy an event pass because it's "predatory"

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or people saying they should let you select what bosses you want again just bc they want scrapbeak and butcher which are the easy ones

fluid kayak
hearty rivet
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I’m about half-way in and I played as much as I could 😄

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Here’s hoping they look at the completion numbers and aren’t like “yeah, this is fine”

fluid kayak
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I hope so. I'm really bummed to have spent money twice on the event only to have zero shot at completing it. All I really want at this point is the damn silenced veterlli skin, lol.

hearty rivet
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Oh yeah I gave up hope on getting that long ago which indeed sucks after paying for the pass

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Studios need to stop assuming people a) have infinite time on their hands b) don’t get burned out from being forced to play daily and c) don’t want to play any other games once in a while

fluid kayak
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This will be a good test for seeing how in or out of touch they are. If this event ends and this isn't addressed at all, especially given the amount of complaints and data to support those complaints, then we have a big problem.

hearty rivet
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At the very least do what some other games do and let people either grind out the skins for free or give them the option to buy it from the store a few months later

fluid kayak
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That would be better than nothing, but I'm not buying anything at this point. Just out of principle. I have bought a lot from this game already.

hearty rivet
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Like that wouldn’t be my favourite option but it’s better than nothing

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This constant “get it now or never” is just exhausting and I genuinely think hurts your play base in the long run because people feeling compelled to play to not miss out instead of because they want to will burn them out

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A game should never feel like a job

fluid kayak
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I kind of want to hear that they learned something from this event and that future events won't be so bad.

hearty rivet
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It’s funny cause last event people were like “These rewards are kinda lame, can we please get a legendary hunter again next event?” and Crytek said “Okay, we heard you, next event will be better” but now it’s like… okay the rewards are better but out of reach for people who can’t play hours every single day… that’s not what we wanted 😄

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But maybe we’ll get there step by step 🫰

fluid kayak
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Hope so. I truly love events. I am newer to this game and was really excited about this one being my first in Hunt. That excitement quickly turned into frustration, lol.

past socket
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7 games, 4 nights 2 fogs and 1 daytime.....night time has significantly lower chance.....what a load of bs

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updated, 8 games 5 nights, 2 fogs and 1 daytime, amazing significantly lower chance....

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somber harbor
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nothing much else to say about it lol

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@meager field I could have swore a fuse time stat used to be in the game

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for frags and dyno it's 4 seconds but for sticky bombs and chaos bomb it's 8 seconds

meager field
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ah I see

barren pivot
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well also night maps got a boost to their odds for the duration of the event

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I haven't run a sniper scope in 2 months because it's a sucker bet

astral canopy
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@neon steeple You may of not had skill based match making on and also you ticked trio games

main cradle
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@dull prawn idk bout the trench but I’m all for the compact variants

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in exchange for the bayonet

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I.E running slugs you'd still be best off using the base model

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main cradle
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Tbh, that seems good

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But we got the specter bayonet

dull prawn
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the difference would be that the specter would have more ammo total and better handling, at the cost of a slightly slower fire-rate/reload and losing a shell without bulletgrubber

main cradle
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Ok man

dull prawn
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but out of the 3 variants I suggested, the Trench version is also the only one that actually existed officially to my knowledge

main cradle
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Yeah

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I’m not a fan of the trench, but the compact ones

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I’m all for that

dull prawn
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fair enough

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@raw widget you know that jumping isn't actually faster than running, even normally, right?

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like crossing creeks

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it's not faster. you're slowed down after jumping.

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burnt mulch
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and that distance doesn't matter because you're slowed after jumping.

raw widget
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i feel stupid now

burnt mulch
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jumping while crossing a creek is still useful for trying to avoid water devils though

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takes them a bit longer to notice you

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@fathom geyser the hours depend to complete event depend on the pace but it is closer to 240 ish hours than 100 hours

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agreed

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The requirement to get it done in 60 days was 411 points per day if you played every day . while it is possible to have 200+ points in a single match it is not realistic to do this in every single match.
It is more likely that the average points will be in the 50s this roughly 495 matches needed

jovial dawn
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It's the grindiest battle pass on any game I've ever seen on any platform.

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Nothing else comes even close other than maybe Halo Infinite

dim heron
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I had 200+ every game 🥲

sick anvil
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Hard to believe that every single game you played in the past 57 days were 200+ points

dim heron
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You can choose to believe it or not, but 200+ wasn't that difficult. Even in games when I went in solo, finding snakes was quite easy & killing/vulturing bodies gave some nice points as well. +10% from legendary.

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You're also assuming I played every day for 57 days. I did not

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sick anvil
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Not asuming you played every single day in the past 57 days . but the event is going on for 57 days.

dim heron
sick anvil
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And if you read carefully . I say that is is difficult to believe that every single match you have played in the time the event was life were all 200 points or more

dim heron
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And if you read carefully, I say, you can choose to believe it or not 🤷 I finished the event fairly easily and quick.

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#NoNightNovember Night map fatigue from this event (as fun as it has been) is real so can we do ' no night map for the month of November please #NoNightNovember```
fathom geyser
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you do not get 200 coins per game on average. thats just literal bullshit

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i get average 80 per game

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thats around 5 games per day

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or up to 2h a day

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120h grind

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awful

dim heron
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If you say so

fathom geyser
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@tranquil hill they were announced actually.

dense schooner
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@small iris tough man, 55 explosive xbow mains are pulling their pitchforks out

fathom geyser
stray horizon
fathom geyser
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yeah i grinded 80h the past 2 weeks

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im still a good ways off

stray horizon
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I spent money on this shit and it's about to go away which means I'm never buying another one again that's what they don't seem to get

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I guess they think making it hard will make us play their game more therefore we'll buy their stupid contracts and more DLC but really it's just putting a bad taste in everyone's mouth and like making me not want to play or buy anything because now it's a chore and I feel ripped off

jovial dawn
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The rewards won't go away, you keep them forever.

stray horizon
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no I mean the ability to unlock them

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like Halo infinite once you buy the battle pass you can get XP towards it forever

fathom geyser
stray horizon
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yeah the fomo thing just makes me not want to get another one I'm really pissed off, I will really wanted slither but it's that level 16 and there's not a chance in hell I get there from level 12 at this point

fathom geyser
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yeah hunt pretty much implented one of the most annoying battle passes i know

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insane grind, meh rewards, fomo, etc etc

stray horizon
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it's fucking insane, like I finished the traitors moon event no problem this one I don't know if they just made the point cost higher or what but it's so much harder and yet it's also the one I had to pay for like what the fuck

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I would have assumed buying the battle pass would have made it easier than traitors moon but nope

fathom geyser
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well you didnt have to pay for it

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but yeah its shit

hearty rivet
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I love this game but yeah, this was probably the worst battle pass I’ve ever seen.

It’s way grindy, bound to burn players out and just makes Crytek look greedy. Is not a good look.

stray horizon
fathom geyser
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you still get rewards for playing this event without paying

stray horizon
fathom geyser
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just not all of them

stray horizon
fathom geyser
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true

stray horizon
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you're missing the point the point is the other ones didn't have anything you had to pay for and were easier this has things you have to pay for and is somehow harder

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you really wouldn't think those two things would go together but apparently they decided that was a good idea

fathom geyser
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crytek rn

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stray horizon
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okay see it's not even a good money strategy though they're clearly not paying attention to the community because only like 10% have people have completed the battle pass which means 90% of people are never buying another one of their fucking battle passes

fathom geyser
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yeah, sure they probably made more money in the battlepass release week than ever before, but they also pissed off their community more than ever before lmao

stray horizon
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yeah exactly

hearty rivet
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Even the people that finished it didn’t get all their premium currency back, something that other games do.

With Hunt you pay them for the privilege of getting to grind the game like a job to get your skins.

stray horizon
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if they just took one little skim of this server I would see that

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but I guess they're too busy making another overly edgy $10 DLC

fathom geyser
stray horizon
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all you can do with blood bonds at this point is by their overpriced event shit

fathom geyser
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you can clean all your guns

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lmfao

hearty rivet
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I only started playing a few months ago so I don’t have that many skins

fathom geyser
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its hilarious that that shit even costs bloodbonds istg

stray horizon
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yeah or remove perks for the low low price of 25 blood bonds

fathom geyser
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dont like your health? pay us to change the distribution haha

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god

stray horizon
fathom geyser
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hunt could be a truly great game

stray horizon
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same with health bars and everything else

fathom geyser
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could be

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nice

stray horizon
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they're making that classic Halo infinite mistake which is trying to squeeze every last dime out of you not realizing they're actually just pissing off their fan base and making sure we don't buy anything

fathom geyser
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about time

stray horizon
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Halo infinite was like hey do you want to pay $20 for a single armor and everyone was like fuck off and now no one buys anything from their store, hunt was super reasonable but they've decided instead they want no one to buy anything I guess

fathom geyser
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

stray horizon
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I think it's going to be hilarious when the next event comes around and fucking no one buys whatever stupid path they have for that

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I also would love to see the numbers on who's buying those useless ass contracts

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I can't imagine it's very many people lol

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not counting the fact that the ones on the pass itself are extra useless

hearty rivet
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They’d have to cut the required points to finish it in half at the very least

stray horizon
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oh for sure

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if they did I would have just finished it like a few days ago and I play the ever-loving shit out of this game

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but instead im only on like level 12

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because I have like a job and maybe I don't want to play more than two or three hours three or four nights a week which is like a lot of video gaming for a grown ass adult with a job

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if I was still in college and could play video games all day everyday then maybe I could maybe complete this

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but I got shit to do games are supposed to be fun and this is not

fathom geyser
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money

hearty rivet
stray horizon
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it's not even going to make them more money in the long run they just bamboozled us for now but the next event ain't no one buying shit

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and I normally buy like a bunch of their DLCs but I'm not buying those anymore either I'm like I've spent enough money on this fucking game

stray horizon
fathom geyser
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well you say that

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but there will always be people buying it

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some people never learn

stray horizon
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I mean sure yeah but the average player I think is not going to, and a lot of people bought this one but I think a lot of people wont the next one

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and a handful of whales only get you so far, when you're doing battle passes the goal is to get everyone to buy your battle pass

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what they should do is just across the board multiply everyone's event points by like 50%, that way you still had to work to unlock the event and people who did unlock it don't feel slighted but it becomes way more accomplishable and retroactively balanced

hearty rivet
stray horizon
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yeah that's a great idea maybe if they did I would actually bother to even turn on summons I literally forget to choose them all the time and it's just like why bother anyways

unborn dagger
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@fathom geyser That's rather hyperbolic, I can understand cracked scopes getting in the way at times but they don't "immensely" degrade your visuals. You can see targets about the same with it.

steel dawn
charred pine
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Current summons much more forgiving for weeklies, old weekly could be like "extract with 15 spider bounties"

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Then you never saw spider that week

fathom geyser
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your fov with a scope is already super limited. in addition to it being cracked AND dirty? youre objectively disadvantaged and you literally cant say otherwise

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saying "i can see just fine" doesnt change the objective fact that youre disadvantaged

unborn dagger
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Uh ok but you can still see about the same. This ain't like Destiny 2 where a handcannon like Posterity handcannon's sights blocks so much of your view where you can't see a guy's head.

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I've played with plenty of cracked sights and have never had an issue where I was ever having an trouble aiming at a player.

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I would easily understand if the cracked parts of the sights were all over the center of the crosshairs where you need to aim but they aren't.

fathom geyser
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right so basically "i can see just fine" while ignoring the facts

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good job

sick anvil
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not sure even that they made that much money on the battle passes cause most of the top 10% are sitting on a mountain of bbs from playing like me i got 8600 bbs my friend who plays longer has nearly 20k bbs

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But i mean 2 months there was near 0 comunication from them besides dlc launch gameplay stream and one eac annoucement

charred pine
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Ive made way over 1500BB durin this event just playing, so they didnt get more than just playtime from me 🤔

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Paid that from my free BBs, made that playing during it for free

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But I didnt use any of the bundles or point boosts because I have way too much time to play, if I didnt I might have considered them

tranquil hill
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@mighty knot can you Show me where?

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@mighty knot not with the specific date

mighty knot
burnt mulch
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@past maple too specific of a tool. just buff explosives’ concertina-clearing radius.

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or chip away at it with melees, which could also use a buff in concertina-clearing range.

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# burnt mulch <@253064982529310720> too specific of a tool. just buff explosives’ concertina-c...

If it's a smoke bomb, I don't think it's too specific at all. Smoke bombs in general would be useful for going for revives and resetting situations, more so than chokes in some circumstances. Buffing the explosives' concertina-clearing range would also probably buff their damage radius/range, and I don't think anyone feels like that really needs to be touched (meaning, it's balanced as is. Not too strong, not too weak). Buffing the ability to chip away at it with melees could be useful, but I feel like the best solution is to just give players a reliable counter

burnt mulch
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devs have mentioned smoke bombs and that they wouldn’t add them. Area denial can be achieved in other ways.
theres no reason that buffing effectiveness vs concertina would have to come with a buff to damage. Frags are better than explosives already in most ways, may as well cement one of explosives’ advantages.

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slashing damage and explosives are the counters to concertina. they already exist just make them better.

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late wind
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We already have plenty to counter the concertina bomb.

crystal plume
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Such as? ConcernedFrogeHat

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Only safe option is dynamites

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Which you won't always have

main cradle
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And fire

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I think

crystal plume
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Nahh fire does nothing to concertina

main cradle
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Aight

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Never tried it tbh

main cradle
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@late wind I’ll be honest

What you purposed can only lead to disaster.

If someone is idk, in earshot of a stick of dynamite, then they’ll be stuck with ear ringing for a day, yes?

People aren’t gonna be like oh this is such a neat mechanic after the first day. It’ll lead to more people staying waaaay back from the thick of the fight.

Also, this means that a team can ahem, constantly lob bombs into a building, basically making the other team deaf, and then easily rush in and kill them with little resistance.

fathom geyser
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their teased "anti camping" drone mechanic really seems to reinforce camping rather than not.

main cradle
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Ok cool

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No need to get rude. Besides, the channel is called feedback discussion

fathom geyser
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not the first time you did this

main cradle
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Dude, literally chillax

native lodge
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ConcernedFrogeHat I was gonna agree bug drones miss the mark but you are acting out of line over nothing

main cradle
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We can only see how it’ll play out when it’s the update is out.

native lodge
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true but if it works the way I think it does, it doesn't effect the two worst types of camping it seems

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if they walled themselves in with concertina wire, they aren't exactly hiding, but bugs not gonna help you break that wire

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if its long ammo camping, the vison range of dark sight isn't going to be enough to see those players

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late wind
unborn dagger
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@late wind

"Ear ringing can last a day or more"

Do you want the game to be like Escape from Tarkov or something? While I agree that there should be more ear defeaning tools, it shouldn't be any more than 5 seconds.

main cradle
late wind
main cradle
stray horizon
late wind
# main cradle I think it’s just fair with that. Cause what ya doing is basically changing a wh...

Okay. So an instant removal of one sense (vision) is fine, but a fuse delayed possible worsening of a different sense (hearing) is overpowered or disaster inducing? Get real.

Dampened hearing temporarily is a far less of a disadvantage than losing vision temporarily. So you can't say that being rushed while deafened is somehow more game breaking than being rushed while blind. And again, unlike the flash, requires cooking unless you want to give your opponent enough time to escape the radius.

This also isn't limited to explosives, meaning it doesn't favor any particular team. If you spam like crazy and deafen yourself, or throw an explosive too close, it's your own fault.

This discourages spam. Forces you to really consider if throwing that dynamite stick so close is worth your hearing. And overall forces you to be more conscious of your actions.

main cradle
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So you want to get rid of flash bombs and replace it with constant ear ringing.

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I’m sorry but have you ever had ringing in ya ears for a day?

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Like irl?

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Cause it ain’t fun

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Yeah they can expand on the hearing shit, but what ya proposing is just a complete overhaul

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Not a rework

late wind
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I didn't say get rid of flash bombs. And if you're gonna keep putting words in my mouth we're done speaking.

main cradle
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I ain’t even putting words in ya mouth

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But yeah, whatever man

native lodge
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late wind
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It also discourages spamming your firearm.

fossil otter
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What if every time ( x ), all players were pinged on the map some sort of way to combat campers. Pings could be through dark sight: players would glow for ( y ) amount of time to be seen with dark sight.

main cradle
fossil otter
main cradle
native lodge
late wind
fossil otter
main cradle
fossil otter
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that's why I put ( x ), cause it could be something that happens not frequently, so players could still camp

late wind
fossil otter
main cradle
late wind
native lodge
native lodge
late wind
native lodge
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yes

late wind
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How do you figure?

main cradle
native lodge
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they fire much slower than their irl counter parts. trade of is they reload faster. this is all for gameplay reasons ofc which should come first. but we shouldm't think old gun means slow shooting

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winnie is a prime example

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experienced hunters shooting slower than I can

late wind
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I wouldn't mind that honestly. Slower relaods but faster shooting. Anything that forces conscious decision making.

native lodge
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there are games for that if thats what you want

late wind
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But in response to these hunters shooting slower than you is a bit dicey. Becase I can relaod my lebel faster than the game. Same with my nagant.

But personally, I'd like to see a bigger focus on the impact of shooting a lot very quickly. Either by increased sway, deafening, or other mechanic.

native lodge
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don't see that as needed

main cradle
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Same

native lodge
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none of the least balanced weapons in the game are that way because they shoot to fast

late wind
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Hunt started to me as a very methodic shooter. But has rapidly devolved into accuracy through volume of fire. Which is a shame.

main cradle
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It’s a game where people go kill monsters in the bayou, where the moon is sentient.

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And here we go again

late wind
main cradle
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The pacing of combat in my eyes is fine. You have long wait times and then frantic shoot outs

native lodge
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in time where volume of fire was heavily used, its hardly out of place

native lodge
late wind
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Fair.

native lodge
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talking pc balance ofc

late wind
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Nitro shredder is busted regardless.

native lodge
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bolt action long ammo, snipers being the worst of it but all of them are powerful and while not being the fastest

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uppercut/sparks pistol

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I really can't think of an unbalanced weapon that is unbalanced because of its rof

late wind
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Berthier.

main cradle
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late wind
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Long ammo. High rof. Highest DPS in the game I believe.

native lodge
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no more than the other long ammo rifles

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DPS doesn't mean to much in this game just due tot he factors that come into play

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getting two shot by a little or two shot by a lot means little in the end

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I would say the damage and velocity, with the over all ease to resupply the ammo makes them the best

late wind
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Hell it's why dualies are so strong.

native lodge
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if you can catch a player in the open dps matters, but a large portion of fights, if you didn't head shot them they are diving back into cover and you will have to try again later. again its not a none factor but it matters less in a majority of cases