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frozen swift
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it could be you hit their arm

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berthier riposte 1-taps on torso im fairly sure but 168 to arm might not kill

somber harbor
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the real killer is fragspam, so many people are 6 star on console just bc they can throw a frag

frozen swift
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that sounds about right tbh lol

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console is just an entirely different universe from pc hunt

somber harbor
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my main question about frags is why they have an extra 6m blast radius compared to other games

frozen swift
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do you mean cod

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i think you mean cod

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or maybe siege

somber harbor
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most fps games have a frag radius of about 7m

frozen swift
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most realistic games frags are terrifying

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because shrapnel flies far as fuck

somber harbor
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yeah and slugs would be terrifying if they were realistic in hunt, but they're not for balancing reasons

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frags should be the same lmao, they're a massive crutch

frozen swift
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i feel like that idea would also mean most bullets take you out tho lol

lyric root
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if frag was 6m shorter it'd be horrible

tawny meadow
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If the game was realistic, we wouldn't have hive, armoured and such SmugEddy

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Jokes aside, some things are better balanced around play-effectiveness than around realism

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@covert ibex keep the channel #game-ideas for actual suggestions, thanks.

frozen swift
tawny meadow
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I mean, a strong enough person could dual wield handcannon, but that would be crazy

frozen swift
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it would also be absolutely terrible for their wrists

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turn their bones to dust in 10 shots

golden orchid
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Console hunt is easy mode compared to PC

unborn dagger
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@somber harbor Or they could have other ways of making us spend hunt dollars instead of capping. It's a cheap way of making your currency matter.

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somber harbor
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a cap will always bring a sense of real decision making to people who have gained mass amounts of money over the time of playing the game be it by not prestiging at all or reaching prestige 100

queen jungle
somber harbor
queen jungle
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A prestige system that was actually worth doing would be cool but I feel like the number of people hoarding hunt dollars in the tens of thousands are in the minority

somber harbor
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I mean I don't even try to hoard hunt dollars and end up constantly fluctuating between 20 and 30k

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my fav loadout just happens to be relatively cheap which means when I wanna bring in expensive stuff I have 0 issue doing so

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having a cap of like 50k would be perfect cause you can still go wild but you can still easily go under 10k if you go too with too many losses from going wild

dim heron
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@craggy pike Those are just for the leaderboard, those are not the points required to finish the event.

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that's why the point value changes.

craggy pike
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...I know, but you can understand that 10% of the playerbase has, on average, 18,000 event points

dim heron
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it's a "Get this minimum to get x prize" I don't beleive it's the average

craggy pike
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what else could it be but the average points of players within those percentage brackets?

dim heron
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Why would it be the average?

You need a minimum of x points to be considered x% that doesn't sound like average to me

craggy pike
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you add all of the event points acquired by players
and if you were to grab the points made by the top 1%, you would be left with the left-most number after calculating the average

same thing when you do it with the players with 1.1% to 10% of the most points earned, then you calculate the average

the point value changes because players are earning points and changing the average points held by players within those % brackets, which is why over time you can see the top 75% number go down as more people are playing and earning points, moving closer to the top 50%

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basic algorithm stuff

queen jungle
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I’ve put like 60+ hours into the event and still haven’t completed it even though I’m close. I’d say I represent the average joe skill wise. Event is painfully grindy

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I probably won’t buy any more event paths

dim heron
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Yea, of course the points change when players continue to get points. But that number is definitely not the average, average is the central most number not lowest possible number to enter a bracket.

radiant river
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I've completed all past events and this one is way worse. IDC if you have longer to do it, I don't want to have to play one game for 2 months. Would rather have one where you need more points per day but it takes less total time.

queen jungle
dim heron
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2 months to get 24kish points isn't that bad, especially when you can easily get 100-200 points a game.

Of course when you're not playing often you're not going to enjoy the "grind" but events are usually made for people who play the game, not people who play the game once a week... Every game event ever no matter the game has been like this.

radiant river
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Yes but it seems like not a lot of people will complete it so that's not great design. We don't know the numbers for old events though so hard to say

dim heron
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We don't know the numbers for this event either

queen jungle
radiant river
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Well you can see the points on the leaderboard thing

dim heron
queen jungle
dim heron
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Like I said above, that doesn't show the amount of people who have x amount of points

craggy pike
dim heron
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it's the lowest amount of points to get into that bracket

craggy pike
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they are very different

radiant river
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I know personally this event being to long made me not play as much as other events, despite being better designed. Obviously I am just one person but I've seen similar opinions around and think it's worth discussing at least

dim heron
craggy pike
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``What Is The Average?
The average is the sum of all the values in a group divided by the number of values in that group.
The median is the middle value in a group, if there are an equal number of values. It’s also called the “middle number.”
When you calculate averages and medians, be sure to use the correct data type (integer or real). If you’re calculating an average of real numbers, you need to round off fractions to the nearest whole number. For example, if you have 5 numbers that are 3.14, 3.15, 3.16, 3.17, and 3.18, your average would be 3.5 (rounded to 4).

What Is The Median?
The median is the middle number in a list of data. It is also known as the “middle value.” The median is important because it helps to make decisions. For example, if you have a list of numbers and you want to know which one is the most common, you would look at the median.``

dim heron
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Average is the central value in a set of data

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that's why you take all numbers and divide by the amount of data points

queen jungle
dim heron
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also have to google and make sure you're right

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so if you can be a little patient

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that would be dope

craggy pike
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christ, you are always so snarky

queen jungle
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Yes he is

dim heron
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yup

lyric root
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dont know a whole lot about the social stuff in the server but the event is quite long, I do enjoy the game and have completed every event ever prior to this one, but having to play consistently for 2 months without the chance for a break stops being fun very quick

dim heron
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love that when someone is snarky with me, if I say anything back I'm the bad guy

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but hey, you do you

queen jungle
dim heron
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wat

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Because I explained what the average was, and that the pictures in feedback arn't that

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or do you not like me pointing out that games make events for the people who play the game?

queen jungle
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You’re trying to prove me wrong that other games don’t have catchup mechanics for battlepasses when it’s industry standard at this point

dim heron
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I'm not trying to prove you wrong, I'm fact checking what you're saying

lyric root
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they aren't an average but do still show that some amount less than 10% is in a good position to finish without playing a ton for the remaining days

dim heron
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you just spit out 2 games and didn't give me any time to check if they actually do what you say they do

queen jungle
dim heron
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If you would like to save me some time, you can go and find the links to prove your point

ripe basalt
dim heron
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valid point as well

ripe basalt
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Not arguing for or against the event, just a point to be made regarding the percentages.

craggy pike
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of course, those players would be accounted for by the 75%

somber harbor
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like scrapbeak had crows to burn for points, the bow event allowed you to use the bow to kill AI for points

lyric root
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the means of getting points is great in this event, quite well balanced I think

somber harbor
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but in this one you can, collect snakes, and kill people

lyric root
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just the total points and time commitment to complete it is crazy

somber harbor
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I find the snakes boring personally

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it's too baity

dim heron
lyric root
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it keeps PvP worthwhile without making it the only good option

somber harbor
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collecting them can be a pain in the ass sometimes too

dim heron
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it's not a fantastic method, but 2 months to finish 24k points isn't too hard

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it's not "fun"

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but the fun of the game is playing the game

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that's a whole other topic though

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lol

dim heron
lyric root
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it's more the fact that it's 2 months just straight on, I take long breaks usually and it's impossible to do that during a 2 month long event

somber harbor
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methods like actually using the new weapons to kill AI and making noise by killing crows provided a risk that was fun though

dim heron
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Yea, I'm not sure why they decided against that

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they had it in the last event, I figured it would have been a good thing to keep

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lol

somber harbor
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I was always listening out for people burning crows during the scrapbeak event to take them off guard, and in the bow patch I kept bringing in the bow to kill AI

lyric root
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i feel like most people just used poison crossbow for that

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I know I did

crystal plume
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Killing crows was not good as a source of points for gameplay, people just avoided pvp and snuck around the map with poison handcrossbow to kill every group of crows they came across

ripe basalt
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I know I did

ripe basalt
dim heron
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fair

somber harbor
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poison crossbow still required actually playing differently

crisp dagger
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The crow event actually gives me ptsd lol

craggy pike
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it's a matter of ranges, think of it like this
1% means for all players that have earned enough points than the 99% below them
10% means players that have earned 2% to 24% the most points
25% means players that have earned 25% to 49% the most points
50% means players that have earned 50% to 74% the most points
75% is the remaining playersbase; those that have earned 0 points to those that have a few, and if there are many people that did not participate then it would lean closer to 0 points

crystal plume
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The snakes make people actually go for boss compounds and pvp, which is much more favorable for gameplay

lyric root
somber harbor
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I only brought in the poison crossbow at the end when I was farming the last few points

lyric root
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it plays directly into the core gameplay loop

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which makes a lot more sense

somber harbor
dim heron
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the percentage doesn't reflect the playerbase though... They're just the numbers you would need to be at to be in that percentage. It doesn't say "This many people are 1%"

somber harbor
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then people started completing the event nd now the gameplay is back to normal

lyric root
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I realized that you could camp kilns but I've never been shot at while trying to sacrifice throughout the event so far

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not been a huge issue that I have experienced at least

dim heron
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I've stollen tons of points killing people at the kiln >.>

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I always say sorry though

craggy pike
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if you are within that percentage, you would by definition be that percentage,
i have 25k points, i am in the 10%

lyric root
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I weighed the idea of playing a sniper and staring at a kiln but decided against it

dim heron
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Yea, but it doesn't say anyone is in that percentage

lyric root
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little bit too extreme

dim heron
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it says "IF" you have then you are

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not "This many people are"

craggy pike
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you would know if you are in that percentage based on the points you know you have compared to the points you need to be in that bracket

dim heron
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Yes, the individual would know

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you would not

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we would not

somber harbor
craggy pike
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and HOW is that number acquired to compare against your points?

somber harbor
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duos was basically unplayable for like 3 weeks

dim heron
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No idea, how is it?

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I missed that meeting, could you catch me up?

dim heron
lyric root
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I've had people be weird but I don't think duos was too weird

craggy pike
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i could only assume it's the average of players after the 1% highest earners are calculated

dim heron
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but it's not the average because it's the lowest denominator you need to hit to be in that percentage.

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so...

somber harbor
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duos for the first chunk of the event was like playing on the WORST europe servers imaginable on every server

craggy pike
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calculate the 1% highest earners, subtract them from the pool, go to the next pool

lyric root
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People play a little different with the event but most games were relatively normal, very few people we've run into were being different

somber harbor
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it was outright painful and damn near made me uninstall the game

lyric root
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I can't speak for that part, I only really play on US East

dim heron
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We also don't know how the percentage is calculated. Is it calculated only from the amount of people in 1%? is it calculated via all pepople in every %?

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we have no idea

lyric root
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Either way the bottom 25% is still sub 1k so the curve is quite extreme

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so it's hard to gauge

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what you're looking at

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with those percentages

craggy pike
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the bottom 25% includes players that haven't played at all and probably people in the high-end of the bottom 25% having played a little

lyric root
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They never engage or show themselves

dim heron
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That's if anyone is actually in the bottom 25%

somber harbor
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people just have been playing extra sweaty hoping to maximise their point gains

dim heron
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like I said, we have no idea how they calculated it, so we have no idea if it's just the population of 1% that makes the rest of the % or if they actually calculate every player into the %

craggy pike
somber harbor
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it also doesn't help that contracts lose time even when you aren't playing the game

lyric root
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yeh but they're never gonna change contracts

dim heron
lyric root
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realistically

dim heron
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so all in all we're fighting about nothing lol

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we have no idea what the numbers mean

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Mason needs to tell us

craggy pike
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it's less of a fight and more of a discussion

dim heron
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fair lol

crystal plume
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Also worth noting that they have adjusted point gain rates and such with the past events when needed, they increased the points from event clues for this event (don't remember if they did other changes) but that probably indicates that they have the data, which they have used for previous events as well to decide if changes are needed, and have deemed that there's no need for further adjustments for the current event

lyric root
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the same complaints have existed about contracts since they were first added, they won't mess with them if they have not already

dim heron
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but to some they see it as a fight

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but I'm happy you se it as a discussion

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❤️

somber harbor
crystal plume
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And I personally trust that more than the % brackets in the menu which may not tell the full story

somber harbor
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but the flaws in the contract system show when servers go down and no one gets their contract hours that were lost to it back

dim heron
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nothing I hate more than people who think you're going at their throat just because you're having a discussion >.>

craggy pike
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i'm a software developer and i have a degree is philosophy, i can argue with the best of them 🦾 @dim heron i hope there's no hard feelings

dim heron
lyric root
somber harbor
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but at the same time I can't even fully comprehend crytek's decisions bc they make some baffling ones at best a lot of the time

dim heron
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Sometimes like in these discussions I kinda wish I had an alt that wasn't a mod to talk with yk >.>

lyric root
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that's reasonable

dim heron
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sometimes people see a mod and just imediately think we're out for blood

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lol

lyric root
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it's the red name

somber harbor
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like with how they calculate handling which realistically gives you 0 info on the guns actual handling

dim heron
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yea, I wanted a nice blue :c but Devs are blue

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jerks

craggy pike
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you should apply to crytek, then you can have the blue name

ripe basalt
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Time to be Yellow

lyric root
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that's the benefit of role icons, feel like once you have role icons

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staff can be any color

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long as they have the icon

dim heron
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ugh I should, they have remote positions

lyric root
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generally I just hope they don't do a 2 month event again,

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as much as I enjoy the game

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too much

somber harbor
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at the very least I hope the stuff in the battle pass is worth it next time

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I can't say I'm a fan of the new skin

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although I do like the legendary guns

lyric root
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I only care for the vetterli at 19

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that's the only skin I was interested in and naturally

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it was at the end

craggy pike
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yea me too

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it felt like a slog towards the end, especially without the Gilded Path and no contracts

lyric root
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I'm 200 bbs off of Gilded path

dim heron
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I think the next step (Only opinion I have no idea what they're doing so please don't quote me) would be to make like quarterly battle passes with the same idea of kills/item to find or some kind of bloodline exp conversion to battlepass exp

lyric root
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planning to grab it before the events out

somber harbor
dim heron
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yea probably

craggy pike
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i figure battle passes will become the norm, which is fine as it supports the game and gives skins to those willing to pay

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but i'd like for the grind not to feel so daunting

lyric root
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I don't mind the structure it's just hard to enjoy the game casually when you're forced to play as much as you are with the current one

somber harbor
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battle passes are great for monetisation, they're usually p cheap all things considered

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and the idea of skins and stuff being exclusive to them makes people buy them

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crytek could make BANK off of putting billy story and lulu in a battle pass

dim heron
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Yea, they can probably do better with exp conversion for the pass but it's their first time so I'll give em a pass

somber harbor
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don't release them as DLC, keep that exclusivity there

dim heron
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Yea, you can get a battlepass for like $10-15

lyric root
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I'd imagine billy will just come back in twitch drops again

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whenever they revisit that

somber harbor
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Like I am telling you people will drop BUCKS for Billy

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I'd drop bucks for Lulu tho, fuck Billy

lyric root
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I skipped out on Billy's twitch drops, did it when Lulu came around then

craggy pike
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i'm not a fan of long cloaks in this game because they tend to clip through floors

late wind
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@chilly dagger that's not an Avtomat problem. That's a long pistol problem.

lyric root
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Not a huge fan of twitch drops being the only option to get items but all the same

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is not a huge deal

dim heron
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Billy will prob be a drop again, I think he's coming back this year but honestly I have no idea

lyric root
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I was just stubborn about it during Billy's event

somber harbor
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I didn't even know twitch drops were a thing when Lulu came out

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I was so fuming

queen jungle
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I just don’t want to be forced to engage with unlikable online personalities for in game items

dim heron
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I love Twitch drops >.>

lyric root
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I just ran them in the background

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same as most people I imagine

dim heron
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I get drops for games I haven't played in ages

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but just because I can leave a stream muted and minimized

somber harbor
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I feel the devs just dropped the ball on the first two twitch drops bc it actually requires keeping up with the community nd stuff which some people just don't enjoy doing

lyric root
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I never watch twitch, just don't care to watch live streams

dim heron
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they have extensions that will auto grab the drops

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shh don't tell them I told you

queen jungle
lyric root
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I watch a few hunt streamers but only on the youtube side

somber harbor
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if the next twitch drops doesn't include lulu I am going to send a very strongly worded message to the devs fr fr

queen jungle
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Feels like jesse is trying to get us to install malware

somber harbor
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I want my good looking skin goddammit

dim heron
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oh wait

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wrong one

subtle elbow
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It’s a chrome extension that will auto-claim drops and points

lyric root
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I have Lulu but don't expect to run her much, particularly now that Private Eye exists

somber harbor
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betterTTV

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and 7tv

dim heron
somber harbor
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if you want those FIRE emotes

dim heron
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shhh

lyric root
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once I'm done the event, gonna save for that

dim heron
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is secret

dim heron
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brb smoke

somber harbor
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I have a collection of them that I really like running

lyric root
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I do too,

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I forget honestly what I usually run it's just been

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night seer

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but

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I know I run Headsmen for memey loadouts (hunting bow, axe)

queen jungle
# dim heron shhh

Yay now I never have to actually watch some jerk who tries to form parasocial relationships to sap money out of people he/she claims they totally care about again

lyric root
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Not beyond that usually

somber harbor
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I run reptillian on particularly sweaty nights bc I never want to see those types succeed

lyric root
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I don't have rep and don't plan to get it

somber harbor
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I didn't buy cain out of principle though

lyric root
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I used to play Plague a lot but after realising that people calling it camo were justified

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I do not run it much

somber harbor
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no matter how many times I died to him perfectly blending in

queen jungle
somber harbor
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crytek does have a problem with some skins naturally blending in though

lyric root
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Oh that's the one

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usually it's Devil's Advocate

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for me

somber harbor
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I feel like lengendaries should be flexes not used to gain an advantage

lyric root
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quite like that one

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Yeah, I agree

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More incentive to use T3's if Legendaries cannot totally replace them

somber harbor
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yeah leave the camo to the actually expensive hunters

lyric root
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Wouldn't mind T3's not all being 1k+ but

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yknow

queen jungle
somber harbor
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I also wish I saw more variety in the legendaries peoples played lmao

lyric root
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yeah

somber harbor
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usually always it's dark ones to blend in as much as possible indoors

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or on night maps

lyric root
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I did see a redneck earlier tonight

somber harbor
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meanwhile I'm sittin here running carter nd flexing

lyric root
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I imagine he's done the event

queen jungle
somber harbor
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yeah

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I also dislike that lmao

lyric root
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I've been playing nothing but Night Seer, which I never would usually run

somber harbor
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I love the night seer but the game has me scunnered on him now bc of the event

lyric root
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I just stuck to Devil's advocate,

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Ever since scrapbeak I thought a hunter with scrapbeak's mask and a hood would look very cool

somber harbor
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I get bored of looking the same ingame

lyric root
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and that was

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about the closest thing

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that I imagine will ever be added

somber harbor
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I really just want a redcoat or an american revolutionary skin tho

queen jungle
lyric root
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I wanna say you're talking about witch hunter

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but I am not sure

queen jungle
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Yes. Everything from her look to her outfit to her backstory to her name

lyric root
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I also wasn't sure if I was thinking of the correct character but

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I was

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checked

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Never played those games

dim heron
somber harbor
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I just love Carcass, Sofia nd Carter

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they all just have the swagger

queen jungle
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The fact that you got it kinda says everything about the ‘witch hunter’ being a Great Value brand Witcher reference

lyric root
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Carcass is nice

dim heron
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the other one I posted before deleting is good too, no ads

lyric root
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realized how similar they look when i thought about it

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with witch hunter

queen jungle
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And the name. ‘Witch hunter’ and ‘Witcher’ are extremely similar. Also her backstory is real similar to a Witcher

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Just kinda

dim heron
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just catching up with the convo, but I've been running the hell out of the new Legendary and the Nun

queen jungle
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Idk if you can call it a reference with how similar they are

dim heron
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I used to run reverend

queen jungle
lyric root
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I only run reverend if I am playing crossbow since he's cross man

dim heron
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ah yea

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rip

queen jungle
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Hail mary’s gotten most of my attention

dim heron
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I love Hail mary, it's such a well done model

queen jungle
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She’s aight

dim heron
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you were saying

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lol

queen jungle
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Prescient may actually have more playtime than hail mary for this event

dim heron
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yea prescient is beautiful

queen jungle
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On my end

queen jungle
dim heron
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the bonus is nice too

queen jungle
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Something likethat

dim heron
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I mean the model >.>

lyric root
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I don't have much of any of the DLC hunters, so my entire roster is just

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a bunch of night seers

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with varying kits

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whenver the lobbies are dead I run bomb lance so there's two of them

subtle elbow
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Plague doctor tho

lyric root
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no event bonus

subtle elbow
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Yeah but he’s cool af

somber harbor
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I need to get llorona's heir bc she has the best hat in the game

queen jungle
somber harbor
dim heron
lyric root
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I do like Plague

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used to play him quite a lot

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fought one outside of bolden in the very muddy area and could hardly tell when he was peeking

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stopped running plague after that

somber harbor
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They should make plague doctor purple

lyric root
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I do think the skin looks good it's just an unfortunate side effect

worthy knoll
lyric root
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same way Cain was, albeit a lot less extreme

subtle elbow
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I never once had an issue spotting any of the legendary hunters

lyric root
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It's rare, but I've had it happen a few times

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in the case of the thing at bolden, he was brown, the tree he was behind was brown, and the mud behind that tree was also brown

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Staring right at it I still did not notice the change quick enough to matter, and it might've gone the same way with other skins it's hard to say but

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very much felt that the very ideal camo

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was helpful

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not having had an issue spotting them is fine but that doesn't make camo not exist

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there's a lot of skins that are obvious anywhere, and a lot that are very hard to notice unless they move

somber harbor
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Tbh when cain was revealed to have been a problem the devs should have vaulted him till they fixed it

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Same with the lemat exploit instead of just begging people to not use it

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Like DBD locked has locked killers and cosmetics before bc of bugs that made them exploitable

queen jungle
subtle elbow
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Isn’t reshade nvidia stuff or something?

queen jungle
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Don’t you try to fool me

subtle elbow
somber harbor
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Speaking of reshade did the devs add a slight fog effect to night maps to stop people abusing it to see further?

subtle elbow
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Maybe it’s because I run on low settings bc that’s all my gpu can handle

somber harbor
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Also can one of the mods put forward the idea of removing the butt ugly green filter over the night maps?

queen jungle
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I just want to be able to see in night maps

dim heron
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I wish I could see in any map >.>

queen jungle
dim heron
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pretty much lol

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for someone who has 20/20 I'm blind af

queen jungle
dim heron
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oh for sure, everyone in my family needs heavy glasses. Thank the lord for the mailmans genes

queen jungle
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Even with glasses I can barely see anything at all out of my left and can’t see well oyt of my right

dim heron
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:c that's not good

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How do you manage Hunt?

queen jungle
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Playing Hunt is challenging on my eyesight at the best of times

dim heron
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hm :c

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totally offtopic, but are you able to do lasic?

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like would it help at all

queen jungle
dim heron
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ah :/ sorry to hear

queen jungle
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Optical nerve damage and cataracts that can’t be removed

dim heron
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oh :c

gentle trellis
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Please keep adding skins that blend in perfectly with the map after your beta promise to never add P2W skins

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they look very nice 🙂

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That is if I could see them 🙂

dim heron
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Like?

soft river
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Ignore rhe fact they added a pay to lose skin

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@neon steeple Are you sure none of these issues are on your side

neon steeple
soft river
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Oh console

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Its probably a your side issue if its old gen

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Even more if its the first playstations too

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Not like ps4 pro

neon steeple
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Soooooo it's my fault, that's cute

soft river
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Thats not what I’m saying

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I’m saying the issue is that you are playing on an old console presumably that is not up to par for hunt, so issues will appear

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Hunt was made when the revisions of last gen were released

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And was a PC first game

neon steeple
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Lol.so why release the game if it won't operate correctly. There's ways around this issue.

soft river
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Probably because ps4 pro/xbox one x have the same store with their old versions

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Even on tnose revisions hunt isn’t perfect, its just better

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Its like cyberpunk

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The old versions of those consoles aren’t powerful

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They are like playing with a 10 year old PC

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But the cpu is from AMD during the FX era so it sucks and the gpu is just old

mint wyvern
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Bruh

neon steeple
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So old console just suffers for ........no reason. Cool. Moving on

soft river
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Its because hunt is not easy to run and older consoles are weak

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That is the reason

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The new consoles do not struggle at all because they are very good systems

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Better than my pc in the gpu side of things

soft river
neon steeple
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Not excusable ,sorry bud it's 2022 ,they shouldn't have release this game when it operates like gumbi land

soft river
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I think they released it in like 2019

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Hunt console

neon steeple
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They did indeed

soft river
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Xbox one 2019 ps4 2020

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The new consoles weren’t out

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So it was the current gen technically

neon steeple
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Ok? Exactly my point,shouldn't run like this.

soft river
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Its not easy to make it run smoothly with limited resources

neon steeple
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Lol back to my original point

soft river
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Though apparently wildcard studios likes to put ark on literally any system even if its complete garbage like the swifch

soft river
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Because of what I said earlier, revision and original of last gen share the same store

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So you think that because you already own one, any game will run well

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Because rhey have the same library

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Seems more like a sony/microsoft problem

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No ability to add a disclaimer for devs to say “hey your console may not run this well”

neon steeple
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Sure lol

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Man are they paying you? Never seen someone lawyer up for them so hard. My guy ,look at the forums, look at ther overwhelming evidence, they need to do better.

soft river
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No because I’m a PC player and understand why a game isn’t running well

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Multitude of reasons but in your case, underperforming system

chilly dagger
soft river
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I do think that performance is going down each update

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And I’ve only had the game since november 2021

soft river
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I’d love to see it nerfed, indirect sparks pistol buff too

chilly dagger
soft river
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Nothing

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I was just saying

radiant river
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they shouldnt sell a game on a console if it cant run it properly

soft river
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Again same store

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Ps4 pro and xbox one x had a better time running it than their previous versions

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But they share rhe same store

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Its misleading really and not on crytek’s side

radiant river
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it was around before those existed

soft river
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Hunt?

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Ps4 pro?

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Xbox one x?

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Are you just misreading what I said

radiant river
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yes

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still weird though. never seen another game with that issue, its usually expected console games run on all consoles

soft river
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Cyberpunk

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It had this issue but way worse than hunt’s

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The game was nearly unplayable if you had the old ones

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Not great on the newer ones

tawny merlin
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Serpent's Moon is the first event I've gotten to play the whole way through. But based on what I saw on streams of Traitor's Moon and As the Crow Flies, this event has been a massive improvement in both progression, content, and fun.

burnt mulch
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Crow was a nightmare, Traitor's was ok.

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This one is fine, it's just... really fscking long.

queen jungle
burnt mulch
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eh, its not really that it's unrewarding compared to other events, it just demands so much more playtime.

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its got plenty of stuff in it, it's just padded with length.

queen jungle
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You put in so much time and effort and so many tiers don't even give you anything

burnt mulch
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I would probably call that being too grindy rather than being unrewarding, but shrugs same difference.

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if they kept the length of the event the same but cut the point requirements, it'd be just as rewarding, just less grindy

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even though it would take more points than previous events

queen jungle
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I consider the effort required to get the rewards a pretty big factor in how rewarding it feels

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Looking at just the skins in a vacuum, yes it's true that wouldn't change if the event was shortened, but if they trimmed the fat it'd feel more rewarding because there was less grind

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There's a such thing as too rewarding but this event isn't that

burnt mulch
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meh. splitting hairs.

queen jungle
burnt mulch
#

ok.

near heart
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This same hunter keeps headshotting without line of sight. In game name is `` - west coast - what can we do about this? 4th deaths from him this evening.

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Last kill was through 3 or 4 concrete slabs so it's not just wallhacks

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Haven't seen hacking this blatant before in Hunt

queen jungle
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@cedar spade One good reason

burnt mulch
near heart
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I removed the unreadable characters since that violates 4.1.1. - Reporting gives no feedback like other competitive games; no idea what's being done and it's toxic to the community when this happens. I'll hope for the best. Thank you.

near heart
iron basin
keen bolt
iron basin
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how does it work then?

keen bolt
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It has lv1 dirtiness on it!

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Unless you buy a legendary...

iron basin
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is there different tiers to it?

balmy sparrow
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Ye there are

keen bolt
iron basin
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yeah i usually buy legendary so I might not notice it anymore

balmy sparrow
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You can measure it by how dirty is the gun's icon in the roster

iron basin
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huh ok, yeah thats a good idea then don't know why people are shitting on you

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but i dont think you can clean a freshly bought gun with blood bonds can you

keen bolt
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Sigh dunno

iron basin
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pretty sure the game sees it as clean already

keen bolt
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You can but like does it even make sense

iron basin
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it doesn't

keen bolt
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That's why I just add the idea and got shit on by dirty gun gang

balmy sparrow
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Because it's lore

iron basin
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what lore

balmy sparrow
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Guns are being distributed to hunters illegally, they are smuggled in in rat carcasses and shit

iron basin
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me pulling my sparks sniper out of a rat

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you mean catfish?

keen bolt
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Ah yes

balmy sparrow
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So, of course, the gun sellers won't care about how gun looks, it works it's enough

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Ehh, i was generalising

keen bolt
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Still tbh

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Like Contraband stuff should be dirty

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But one that I spent money for shouldn't

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I mean tbh it's just aesthetic in the end

balmy sparrow
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Fair

keen bolt
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Well that or they change it to cleaning by hunt dollars

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I'd do that

balmy sparrow
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Tbh that's the good idea

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Cleaning by bloodbonds is cringe

queen jungle
keen bolt
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Nice

wind stream
balmy sparrow
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Hi ahorn

burnt mulch
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@queen jungle it has a couple things going for it.

  1. Anything kills after an upper chest shot. Fall damage, choke bomb, flash bomb, a little bit of frag shrapnel, hive swarm, a single shotgun pellet, the list goes on.
  2. Unless they're using a full vit shot, they need to wait for passive healing before they use their healing item, otherwise it won't bring them to full.
  3. It has the longest range that it still deals 125 damage to chest. It also has the longest headshot range.
  4. It's more likely to drain extra healing items on arm/leg/lower-body shots or shots with falloff/wallbangs.
  5. You can carry alternate ammo for utility while still having long ammo pen as an option. Poison is quite good for both PVP and PVE.

As for why your suggestion won't work, giving it 150 damage would make it one shot to upper chest up to 40 meters. For reference, a long-barrel shotgun with slugs can only one shot to chest up to 15 meters. A Nitro with base ammo kills to roughly 45 meters.

queen jungle
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@keen bolt 100% agree

slow valve
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@queen jungle this weapon is called a NITRO EXPRESS

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and ther is reason why the iron sight is sh****

maiden pelican
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Bison also have 1 lung cavity, anything that pierces that kills them.

somber harbor
golden orchid
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Riddle me this Batman: if there is no such thing as ping abuse leading to delayed shots then how was my team getting hit by arrows well after they'd been shot?

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Or the guy we killed twice who died well around a corner?

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Who just happened to be from Oceania and was shooting said bow?

radiant river
golden orchid
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But they were able to rez their boy because he was dying around corners

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And that's balanced how? "Region Lock" was a joke

burnt mulch
errant spear
karmic ivy
# golden orchid Riddle me this Batman: if there is no such thing as ping abuse leading to delaye...

The reason they died around a corner is latency/delay. That is a natural consequence of multiplayer games on the internet.
This is not ping abuse. Ping abuse is the idea that a high ping player has an unfair advantage over a low ping player. This is nonsense.
I think these sum it up nicely.
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queen jungle
karmic ivy
queen jungle
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Jsin it comes from a xenophobic over-competitive mindset

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Not the belief in ping abuse but the strong assertion that it’s a problem and refusing to listen to anyone

somber harbor
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try playing at high ping yourself it's hellish

golden orchid
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So me staying in my own region punishes me with trades and delayed kills?

karmic ivy
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punishment... lol

somber harbor
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ultimately you're still having a better experience ingame than the people who are lagging lmao

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also I have never once seen another player rubber band

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I've seen people dc nd just run off into a random direction and crouch

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but never rubber band

karmic ivy
somber harbor
karmic ivy
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I know some people have these things, but its not Hunt punishing them lol. It is simply the internet.

karmic ivy
burnt mulch
queen jungle
errant spear
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Not to the head

burnt mulch
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no, slugs do have a headshot multiplier.

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I believe it's 1.2, though don't quote me on that.

jovial lodge
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@queen jungle Your posts in #game-ideas have been removed because they do not follow the channel-specific rules:
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somber harbor
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Its just the nature of online pvp

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There will be times where people lag, thats what happens with signals over long distances

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The only way it would ever be completely perfect is on LAN

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@craggy pike it means not even 90% of the players have come close to finishing the event over a month and a half.

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Hopefully crytek takes this data in fast as well for the halloween event and adjusts ppint gains

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Two month events are just far too long as well it's straight up painful

late wind
somber harbor
late wind
white oasis
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@queen jungle try some long barreled shotgun with slugs, there you have your oneshot sparks with special ammo

somber harbor
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You run out of bullets and best be godly at dodging other peoples bullets

radiant river
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you dont need to reload the whole thing

somber harbor
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You should tbh

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Just make that the change to it

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Give it a slightly longer reload that needs to go till the gun is full

shrewd flare
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@queen jungle wtf lol

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there is this thing called balancing

willow pine
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Im sure this has been brought up time and time again recently, but the cheating players are getting out of hand. Im sure i get placed up against them more often than not because my MMR is 5-6 star, but it is truly killing the community. I play with a core group of 7 friends and three have stopped playing because in the last seemingly 3 months, the amount of cheaters using either soft cheats, like an overlay wallhack (which has now been witnessed twice on recent twitch streams of two 6 star players) , or blatant 300+m spitzer sniper through a building has increased dramatically. Does anyone know if this has been discussed up the chain and if anything is currently being done about it? You can find site after site of Hunt Showdown cheat pages. Seems like the threat of using cheats is so low, tons of people have succumb to the temptation.

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queen jungle
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omg pls

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iam not the one who sent it

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Wtf there is a report button tho

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@oak badge You can report other players via the Team Details screen after leaving a match.

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!report

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queen jungle
#

I concur that flash bombs suck. For a game about direct confrontation wiping your vision for far too long for far too little effort is really unfun to llay arrounf

somber harbor
#

they had selectable contracts at a time but removed them bc it hurt the activity of the game too much

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jovial dawn
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Make Quick Play’s MMR separate from Bounty Hunt. It already had a separate K/D stat, and the modes are so dramatically different. They should not share statistic.

queen jungle
tawny meadow
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@nimble spire
1 - monetization is getting a revamp, i'd suggest you to watch the relative video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X6Q5Qqfw2w&ab_channel=Hunt%3AShowdown
2 - In quickplay you convert the yellow snake token into point the moment you become the wellspring and the moment you win the match.

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fluid kayak
#

Again....only the best can get points tho. We need more ways for the average player to earn points. Make the points easier to earn and increase the leaderboard rewards for the elite players, then everyone can be happy.

radiant river
#

There's lots of ways to earn points if you're not great a t pvp, they just involve avoiding combat which shouldn't be how it works.

fluid kayak
somber harbor
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pvp shouldn't be the only way to get points without avoiding it entirely

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past events had good methods to allow you to do both at the same time

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even if you lost

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stuff like using certain weapons to kill types of AI was a really good method of that

fluid kayak
#

I just want to keep stressing that I do love events, and everything else about this one is enjoyable, it's just not fair in the way that points are earned. I sincerely hope that they continue to do fun events on a regular basis. Just fix this so that we can all get more out of it.

radiant river
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This event also needs way more points so that doesn't help

worthy knoll
somber harbor
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it encourages switching up your playstyle

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which is what events should do

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but now just getting a normal game feels like an event in itself

willow gulch
#

Game started, but the last one in that team was a reptilian that I didnt touch

bronze quail
queen jungle
bronze quail
#

But is dumb that there is a setting that you have to turn down to have advantages.
Low object quality setting is literally a built in whallhack

queen jungle
somber harbor
#

what's even worse is on console with no graphics settings the game basically defaults to low bc of how poorly optimised cryengine is, nd you'll see people through elements but not be able to shoot them

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like a haybale or something not loading in so you can see someone and line up the shot but it'll never hit bc of the cover in the way

bronze quail
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I can spot players on other compounds randomly cause i can see them inside the buildings

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After more than 2k hours i almost know every compound almost perfectly so i know if a guy behind a derendered cover can be killed or not

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But is bullshit that im forced to play like that and is way more stupid that if im inside a compound or behind a cover i cant stand still even behind a wall with no holes or cracks cause i can get killed by a guy 200m away who is not rendering the whole wall

native lodge
willow gulch
#

Another bug: friend got stuck in air after climbing the ladder. Nothing worked to get him loose, I tried to kill him, he tried to kill himself. Nothing

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native lodge
willow gulch
#

My friends also checked, same thing for them. Showed these but not the Llonora

native lodge
#

well if what you claim is true that is odd

willow gulch
errant spear
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Example: I die as a phantom and have another loadout on another phantom once I'm back in the lobby that I run again, you'll see my description under my username as phantom still.

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If I have a La Llorona that you killed and you check stats afterward (you extracted) that's enough time for me to grab a free hunter or any other legendary Hunter.

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Then that will be what it says under my name

native lodge
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ConcernedFrogeHat oh that would be something to fix yes

willow gulch
#

More bugs!!

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from yesterday

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and today!

errant spear
willow gulch
#

That it is like that

errant spear
#

Lots of trial and error, and I had the same questions as you.

fluid locust
main portal
#

@coarse tiger Yo great idea on the hunters but imagine instead of being level 50 since its so easy to get your hunter clapped why not make it a trait point trade off? 10 points to convert to each tier

queen jungle
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@near heart Such information is not given due to privacy issues since some countries consider online nicknames personal identifiers

tawny meadow
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@crystal sage the problem with increasing the bosses difficulty is that this way less people will try to engage a boss fight without the fear of being third partied by other hunters

crystal sage
tawny meadow
crystal sage
somber harbor
#

as much as I would love bosses that are more involved the playerbase would just camp 24/7

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hell even on normal matches I had a team who just camped outside a boss for 20 MINUTES because it went red

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nd me nd my mate knew they were holding corners with shotguns nd every other team also knew lmao

#

the worst thing was these guys had 1.5k hours in the game nd were scared to kill the assassin on a night map

#

like it just shows you how willing people are to camp already nvm with bosses that actually require effort

molten nexus
somber harbor
#

just waiting to third party everything is somehow the best strat

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but it's by no means fun or respectful of peoples time

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Like honestly I'd rather get killed on spawn than be killed by some 3rd party who just waited for a fight to be over nd snipe us while we loot 20mins into a match

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if the next dev update doesn't include any words on the anti camping mechanic then idk what to say cause it's such a simple solution lmao

molten nexus
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I think there is literally nothing you can do within the boundaries of Hunts Gamedesign to fix this. Crytek could consider putting more value on kills so slow playstyles that only get few kills per time arent rewarded as much. Also removing KD and scopes would help immensely but obviously scopes are here to stay and sadly KD most likely as well. At least they could consider moving Spitzer to single shot only weapons so it cant be used with Scopesmith.

crystal plume
somber harbor
# crystal plume Is it?

yeah tie it to dark sight and have it be if someone sits within the same 15m for an extended period of time then other players can see that position like they had a second of darksight

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it'd help dark sight be more of an involved basekit mechanic too

crystal plume
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I wouldn't personally see that as a solution to the problem 😄

crystal sage
crystal plume
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There's multiple factors to consider

molten nexus
somber harbor
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either that or just have crows assault people who are camping ala dbd

crystal plume
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As well as the fact that some "camping" is valid, and some should be discouraged

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So there needs to be a good middle ground

somber harbor
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personally though I think scopes should have lens flare to allow you to know if ones hardscoping

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it's not uncommon in other shooters

crystal plume
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That I can agree with, scope glare after X amount of distance would be nice

molten nexus
crystal sage
molten nexus
crystal plume
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It's not that fun to have a sniper 200m away peeking some hole that is 3 pixels in size either

crystal sage
somber harbor
molten nexus
molten nexus
somber harbor
#

my issue with sniping is that many snipers do just huddle up in a cosy spot and only attempt a shot when someone sits perfectly still

crystal sage
somber harbor
#

snipers should be rotating though instead of just holding one angle for 40 minutes

somber harbor
molten nexus
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Snipers should have a counter to them thats not other snipers*

somber harbor
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just feels easier to use bc of less intense zoom

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one thing I'll say though, I don't think mosins or lebels should have spitzer, it should be exclusive to the martini and sparks

#

they only have one shot each, you NEED headshots with them to perform when using their scoped variants

crystal sage
molten nexus
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Yes but surely you see the issue with this?

somber harbor
#

obviously this means that the sparks pistol shouldn't get spitzer as well though

crystal sage
# molten nexus Yes but surely you see the issue with this?

Iam not saying its not any issue. But you can still play to avoid running into the snipers. And usually it does not happen in trios (Disclosure: I usually play Trios). Positioning is the key to counter them ATM unless you got a sniper in your team. And there is lot of compounds which are hard to cover with sniper rifle. If you come across such compound there is limited number of "good" spots. Just avoid those and you should be just fine.

somber harbor
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if you know there's a sniper, stay off roofs

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speaking from experience 😅

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avoided roofs in general ever since someone clocked a 180m headshot on me with a normal centennial lmao

crystal sage
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Guys my suggestion was purely based on factor that currently the rewards for boss killing is low. And what makes this game different from other Survive and extract games is the AIs and Boss arena + So much good gunplay this game has. Really those should be boosted by my opinion.

somber harbor
#

tbh I think part of the issue may be that AI has seemingly gotten more spawn heavy

crystal sage
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Forgot about the setting itself this whole concept of Weird west*

somber harbor
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like I've been seeing double con armoured spawns recently nd it's more intimidating than the presence of two teams bc of how easily they shred through your health

crystal sage
somber harbor
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which would be fine if your basekit had the tools to handle them but coming across 3 packs of dogs and an immolator within 30m of each other is awful

charred pine
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I think AI being challenging and having to think if its worth it to go near enough to aggro them or seek a safer route is great, if you could just beeline to clue to clue and then to boss itd be pretty dull

somber harbor
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I have had to clear out the AI of a compound just to have the bounties even consider making a move

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and it's not new players either, all of these people have around 1k+ hours

crystal sage
molten nexus
crystal sage
molten nexus
crystal sage
# molten nexus As I said if they are not dumb they will simply run away lol

If they would try to run away spacing would become for them even bigger issue. 3 ppl can easily chase down 1. Ever considered using the stamina shot? The tools for countering are there its easy? Definetly not but not impossible either. By giving ppl reason to try kill and banish you would actually counter a large portion of this problem as a whole thing.

molten nexus
crystal sage
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This issue of gameplay loop itself then anything else. Really for those ppl there is like zero reasons to in the compounds most of the time. If the reward for the banish would be higher you would get them to play differently too (Probably 😄 )

molten nexus
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Yes the game design never forces them to get closer or even care about a burning teammate anymore. Its not like they need to kill you in the compound either. Obviously they can wait for you to leave where you will be more exposed. Especially at certain extracts that are kinda shitty

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Rewarding the banish more comes with the issue of randomness. I played in Tournaments that put alot of focus on banishes and they are just too random. If the boss spawns in lower desalle and you at Kingsnake you wont get there in time usually

crystal sage
molten nexus
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No they can save them afterwards with redskull rez is what i meant

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Also ive come across plenty of people ditching their burning mates. But nowadays you arent in a rush to save your burning mates sadly

crystal sage
molten nexus
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You will most likely have depleted your Seconds by the time you kill the First one If you ever manage to get Close. Then you are Shit out of luck finding them usually

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As i said when you Play against people with 3k+ hours doing this you will 99% get fucked

crystal sage
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Its not like you always have 100% chance to win the gunfight its all about increasing the chance you survive.

molten nexus
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Last time i encountered this i was using a Vetterli with a Romero handcannon. Nothing you can do there

crystal sage
molten nexus
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Its not about them being better Jesus Dude 😂

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Anyways have a good day my friend

frosty garnetBOT
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@fringe night, your post below has been deleted, as it doesn't follow the required format.
You can find all guidelines pinned in the ideas channel.

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elder ibex
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@serene charm actually r1875 produced with bored through cylinder by design (not conversion) 🤓 , most conversions based on r1863 also known as remington new army. Anyway good idea, i want remington revolvers in game too

spice spire
karmic ivy
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no Momroe.

balmy sparrow
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No momroe?

unborn smelt
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they could bring a handcannon to push, they can bring a fanning pistol, both works wonders with flashes, they can bring hellfires and an uppercut, possibly a bow to make people move

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with frag arrows ofc

obsidian wyvern
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can we please remove friendly fire? like wtf im getting team killed for scaring crows. whats the point for having friendly fire

unborn smelt
main cradle
unborn smelt
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No rushing a guy while your mate throws a dynamite on him and you get out the blast unharmed

obsidian wyvern
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yea but still just remove friendly fire

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no use

unborn smelt
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yeah i vote for no

obsidian wyvern
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bruh this is the reason hunt is dying lmao

main cradle
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It’s really not

unborn smelt
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I very much appreciate that AoE weapons have to be carefully used around teammates

main cradle
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In fact hunts at an all time high if I’m right

obsidian wyvern
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nope xD

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KEKW

unborn smelt
main cradle
unborn smelt
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but dropping numbers after over a month in is to be expected

main cradle
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But again, friendly fire isn’t why hunt would be dying

obsidian wyvern
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alot of populat streamers are quitting hunt for shit like team killing and hit reg not fixed after 5 years

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like

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crytek is fucked

unborn smelt
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Meh i've yet to see many important streamers leave...

trail carbon
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@queen jungle You do understand that the reason a hunter can take a hit from a sparks and a normal human cannot is due to the fact that hunters are supernaturally enhanced, right? No regular human could just take a hit from that, but a hunter absolutely can. Therefore, it would not be more realistic to have the sparks one shot

unborn smelt
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the biggest and nicest ones are still there

obsidian wyvern
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delacroix my friend. darkness. murdor

unborn smelt
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and Hunt's steam numbers are just fine

obsidian wyvern
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like cmon is it that hard to remove friendly fire or to fix hit reg?

main cradle
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I’ve yet to see proof of real hits being unregistered

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Most of the time people miss

obsidian wyvern
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yal are not helping kekw

trail carbon
obsidian wyvern
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theres a reason hunt is sitting at 20k players

unborn smelt
obsidian wyvern
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ass game

trail carbon
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As in, I can see the projectile hit my opponent and no hitmarker

main cradle
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But personally I haven’t

unborn smelt
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easy as that

main cradle
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I me I gotten a kill with no hit marker a few times

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But I mean

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Eh

unborn smelt
trail carbon
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I thought that hunt's shot validation was clientside, thus why trades are some common

unborn smelt
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Sometimes when i had Huuuuuge ping i've had hitmarkers be 30+ seconds late tho

main cradle
unborn smelt
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But then again this is why we got pinglock now

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So shit like that doesn't happen anymore

unborn smelt
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It's clientside hitreg with serverside validation

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as pretty much all other modern games

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The reason hunt has so many trades is afaik, they found a lot of what would have been trade shots were wrongfully invalidated - they corrected that in what's commonly known as the trading changes, which were a big improovement to hitreg

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and on top Hunt is very prone to trading because of being projectile based, not hitscan, and said projectiles have slow ass velocities

unborn dagger
main cradle
unborn dagger
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True lol

spice topaz
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If Hunt dies because of friendly fire it only means we didn't deserve Hunt.

tawny meadow
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I've been around for a while. People say that hunt is dying at every patch 1HuntLUL

main cradle
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Been around since before female hunters were added

tawny meadow
trail carbon
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I'd rather return to some of my shots not being valid than current trading. Melee brawls are almost alkways trades now, and so are shotgun duels

main cradle
trail carbon
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I shouldn't be shocked that I don't trade when I engage in CQC

main cradle
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But yeah, the good old days

somber harbor
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it's strange

tawny meadow
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Yeah, i've been playing Hunt since alpha, but i'm on the discord since 2019. And everything killed hunt.

somber harbor
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also witnessed bomblance harpoons go through players and AI alike

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point blank

tawny meadow
soft river
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@keen bolt crytek also said that those BB things (cleaning weapons, etc) make the least amount of money for them

somber harbor
trail carbon
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The only thing that could possibly kill hunt is Crytek trying to squeeze every ounce of money out of the game because they have no other sources of revenue

somber harbor
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but I'm sure there's some clips

main cradle
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THE TIMING

tawny meadow
trail carbon
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I've even had several occasions where the projectiles on these weapons just vanish

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Though I have a theory that this bug is related to the same bug that causes single shot weapons to unload themselves

karmic ivy
somber harbor
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sadge

trail carbon
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It sure felt like longer than 1 second, but it may not have been a full two seconds

dim heron
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would love to send it up

trail carbon
dim heron
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yea, no worries whenever you have time

trail carbon
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I sent it to the hunt team a couple months ago when it happened

dim heron
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just thought it would be good to see and show the Devs yk

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oh did you

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ok

trail carbon
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Yeah, I send it their way every time I trade after a questionable amount of time

dim heron
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good good, then it's all good I don't need it :p

trail carbon
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I think even a quarter of a second is a little much

dim heron
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it really depends on both players ping + server ping

trail carbon
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Yeah, but it really sucks to kill someone and then die after going behind cover because they have a ping of 190 or something

dim heron
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for sure

trail carbon
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Also the servers...

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God

dim heron
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I've not had any server issues in a long time tbh :/

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I play mostly East, but also EU when friends are on

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haven't disconnected or anything in months

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the Desync changes made it even better recently for me too

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lol

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less sliding around and falling off shit

trail carbon
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I frequently get desync despite sitting at 30ish ping. My friend couldn't play hunt for a week because he kept getting dc'd

karmic ivy
trail carbon
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I think its a tad better than before the update, but it is hard to tell

karmic ivy
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I don't want to doubt people if they tell the truth.

trail carbon
karmic ivy
dim heron
trail carbon
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I think I'm probably exaggerating a little, but I have definitely used a vitality shot and then died as the animation finished.

trail carbon
dim heron
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oh, hm

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do you guys share the same isp?

somber harbor
trail carbon
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With him specifically? I think so, but there's about 8 or 9 of us in my friend group who play hunt, so there's no way we all use Spectrum

somber harbor
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I've had matches dc me mid fight

dim heron
dim heron
trail carbon
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Anyway, I must go to work now. Thanks for listening to my pain

somber harbor
# dim heron ouch, what server/isp?

sky isp but it's the same with virgin broadband too cause one of my mates uses that, nd we play on both europe and US east with no issues majority of the time

dim heron
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Enjoy work!

dim heron
somber harbor
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each time we get dc'd recently hasn't been actual internet issues cause we can still use party chat just fine

karmic ivy
# somber harbor oh man you're lucky

I am not sure its luck, I think its certain kind of network interruption. There are different kinds. Some are very unforgiving. I have not had a dc in months myself.

somber harbor
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yeah BT owns the lines for sky

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virgin owns their own lines

dim heron
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Yea Virgin is pretty big in the EU

somber harbor
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sky is a shiter of an isp in general though, they were charging us £30 a month for 100kbps

dim heron
# somber harbor each time we get dc'd recently hasn't been actual internet issues cause we can s...

Different nodes that the traffic is using, the traffic going to the Hunt server could be using a certain node that is just goofy and broke or something.

It happens often with different games, like here in Canada I had to swap ISPs from Rogers to Bell because it wouldn't let me play League of Legends because for some reason the router had stupid settings that only an Admin could change and they refused to give me the password to fix it >.>

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I might still have a clip actually somewhere of how shit league was with Rogers >.>

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ah nvm it's gone

dim heron
somber harbor
# dim heron omg really

yeah they're BIG SCAMMERS, took years of begging my parents to see about an upgrade to get better speeds, ironically 40mbps for the same price OmegaHUL

dim heron
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damn scammers

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somber harbor
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@soft river you can get 30 in reserve by just emptying dual uppercuts

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you also forfeit any chance of having a good sidearm

soft river
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i know but its very loud and more money

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with an avto i don't think a side arm is necessary

somber harbor
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nah there's definitely times where having a gun you can accurately aim helps with the avto

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it's practically a meme shotgun

soft river
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its better than shotguns

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its only not better than slugs but guess what

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that got a nerf to its reserve recently

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and to add more you need to get a lemat with slugs (2 more shots) or ANOTHER shotgun with slugs

somber harbor
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ofc it's better than shotguns it costs double the crown and king

soft river
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when the avto was released it had 15 in the chamber and no reserve

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only reserve you could get was with an uppercut

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only 9 more

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now you can get 18, 30, 28

somber harbor
soft river
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saying you could get 30 reserve did NOT help your case

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also 2 sparks pistols costs around 300

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2 uppercuts which was the only way to get more than 9 or 0 costs 500+

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like 550

somber harbor
soft river
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250 difference for more ammo and less sound

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if you think about how much ammo that is

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15 in the chamber is 5 taps

somber harbor
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I think the sound point is a bit moot just bc of how many players will shoot at the start of the match to draw people to them

soft river
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28 reserve is an extra 10 shots

somber harbor
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15 in the chamber is 5 taps and there's no way to guarantee all 5 taps will be a kill

soft river
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with the last burst being 1

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combine that with an ammo box

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another 4-5 shots

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most bring 2 or 3 ammo boxes

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an extra 4-5 every time its used

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it is a problem.

somber harbor
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not particularly

soft river
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yes it is

somber harbor
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the moment you hear an avto is in the game you can begin to play around it

soft river
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what if you're in a situation that doesn't allow that?

somber harbor
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yeah it sucks if you're the first person to die to it but it sucks to be the first person to die to a nitro or a c&k

soft river
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not every situation is perfect

somber harbor
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yeah and not every situation is perfect when you bring in an avto

soft river
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c&k is more balanced than the avto*

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and i'm an avid shotgun hater

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*=without slugs

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you cannot bring up any other reason as to why the avto should not have special ammo other than "just play around it"

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which could be said for literally any other weapon in the game

somber harbor
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it shouldn't have special ammo because it would kill the weapon

soft river
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yes that is the point

somber harbor
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$1250 for a total meme that you're likely to never get a win with

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what would be the point

soft river
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the avto is a high risk weapon and with 28 reserve and ammo boxes it completely mitigates that

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now its just an automatic rifle in a game where its the only one

errant coral
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#game-ideas message I want this so bad! imagine a melee with ammo, and upon hitting a grunt they ragdoll to the next compound!

somber harbor
soft river
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thats because most other games with one have them as a class of weapon

somber harbor
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recoil on the thing is awful

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as it should be

soft river
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so it wouldn't make much sense to make them awful from a balance perspective

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hunt is a special case from most FPS and comparing it to others

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again, does not work

errant coral
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high dps and recoil with low ammo was the avo's intended tradeoff, dual sparks is a loophole to make the weapon only have 1 downside and should not exist.

soft river
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exactly

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but its not a sparks pistol problem its a avto problem, therefore special ammo

errant coral
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hate to be an ass, but its kinda simple game design

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yee

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what that guy up there said

somber harbor
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it's replacing a downside with another downside

errant coral
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thats the point, youd hate the lebel

soft river
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yeah the intended tradeoff when it was first added

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you fail to understand that

somber harbor
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what I'd say is just give the avto a reload that needs to be fully finished to fire again

soft river
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why does the nitro have an awful hipfire and a not optional aperture sight

somber harbor
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that's 11s downtime if they run out of ammo in it

soft river
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to make it harder to use

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and why is it special ammo

errant coral
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you still get 5 bursts and the opportunity to refill at carts, and a secondary weapon. the primary shouldnt be all you can use

soft river
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to lower how much shots you have

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to make every shot count

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its the same reason why dolch was made special

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it was at the point where the secondary became the primary

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dolch was used as the main gun while vetterli was used as an ammo reserve

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or a springfield

somber harbor
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like here's how it should be with the avto to not outright kill the weapon, keep the reload speed the same of 11s, but make it so premature reloading ejects all the bullets that are in it and the reload needs to be fully completed before you can fire again

soft river
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why was slugs reduced, to make every shot count

soft river
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special ammo will kill the weapon yes

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and that is the point