tvos-jailbreaks

[ionic copper]

TrollStore doesn’t work for persistence

It’s just there to install apps

Which can be done via sideloading anyways

[frank tide]

؟

شسالفه

Which can be done via sideloading anyways

[leaden geode]

!t whyjbtv

[boreal monolith]

Hey @frank tide, have a look at this!

whyjbtv

Why jailbreak an Apple TV?

Tweaks and features such as:

AirMagic - Control your Apple TV via any web browser.
DalesDeadBug - Spoof your firmware version.
AppStore++ - Downgrade Apple TV apps from the AppStore.
nControl - Use other controllers for your Apple TV.
TVControlCenter - Install control center tweaks for ease of access. (13+ only)
Breezy - AirDrop files to and from your Apple TV from any device.
SnowBoardTV - Decorate your Apple TV homescreen with awesome themes!
Doom & Quake - Play the classics from your childhood right on the big screen!

emulators, multimedia, code execution, custom respring animations/wallpapers/ screensavers and so much more!

Added by Rick.#7777 | Used 196 times · Jun 3, 2021, 10:42 AM

[clear kayak]

hey @ionic copper I saw your guide on downgrading the atv 4k 1st gen but unfortunately, saving blobs is like dead now I think? I haven't been able to do it at all (blobsaver or tss saver), any tips?

I was able to get blobsaver loaded up - I have 2 atv 4k's, one is on 18.2 and the other is on 18.4.1. They are attached to an organization - spectrum. It only asks to sign in when i erase all content but I can skip it.

[ionic copper]

Blobs aren’t dead. You can save them for the 4K first gen and they’ll work

[clear kayak]

blobsaver just hangs for A LONG time and then says success but no blobs are saved.

Hm, I wonder what I am doing wrong then.

I have the ECID, I'm using blobsaver - not sure what the issue is.

[clear kayak]

Can someone else save a blob for me if I gave them my ECID?

[rustic rain]

ergrd

[ionic copper]

Sure

[ionic copper]

Blobsaver is outdated

[clear kayak]

i tried via the command prompt as well using tsschecker

and following the exact commands with my ECID, I got the error that says the device was not found like wtf

lol

I used this command: ./tsschecker -d AppleTV6,2 -e [MY ECID] -o -i 18.4.1 -s --save-path ./ --boardconfig J105aAP --no-baseband

[ionic copper]

Razzlefras

[ionic copper]

Where’d you get this command from?

[clear kayak]

from the guide you linked in your reddit post

Reddit post: https://old.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/1f8of4b/how_to_restore_an_apple_tv_4k_first_generation/

guide: https://www.idownloadblog.com/2019/05/19/save-blobs-apple-tv-4k/

and I used the tsschecker that was linked in the guide: https://github.com/s0uthwest/tsschecker/releases

[ionic copper]

You have it incorrect

[clear kayak]

ah, I see

[ionic copper]

Also, use the tsschecker from blobsaver as directed in the guide as well

[clear kayak]

this was the error I was getting

[Error] [TSSC] device 'Appletv6,2' could not be found in devicelist
[Error] [TSSC] ERROR: could not get URL for device Appletv6,2 on iOS 18.4.1

ok let me try the tsssaver from the blobsaver

[ionic copper]

All will go right if you have the right files

[clear kayak]

aaah

[ionic copper]

Also, if you’re planning on updating to 18.4.1 then you don’t need blobs

[clear kayak]

i need the tsschecker from the linux version, gotta reboot to live boot linux

[clear kayak]

im planning on going to 18.3

but I thought I would need the blobs from the latest signed version?

[ionic copper]

You can only get that if you already have the blobs

[clear kayak]

dang, so I can't get to 18.3 now at all eh?

it needs to be signed

[ionic copper]

Later blobs don’t work for older versions

Only the blobs saved for that version do

[clear kayak]

In other words, no way to go to 18.3 now without having blobs?

[ionic copper]

You can get there if you want to downgrade to 13.4.8, then delayOTA

DelayOTA will get you to 18.3

While it’s still signed

[clear kayak]

Ok lets do that then, how can I get to 13.4.8?

it's like still signed? lol

it was weird to see on appledb.dev

[ionic copper]

It is but you need to download the ipsw

[clear kayak]

also, I was able to get the profile on my 18.2 atv 4k but it did not work

[ionic copper]

Which isn’t available on any other website

[clear kayak]

and then shift + restore?

[ionic copper]

Why are you going to 18.3?

[clear kayak]

I would like to jailbreak

rather than sideload

[ionic copper]

I’m just worried about you bricking

[clear kayak]

I appreciate that!

[ionic copper]

Because jumping between firmwares tends to heat the device to the point where it causes hardware damage and can make the Apple TV inoperable

[clear kayak]

Could you help me understand how I can get to 13.4.8? I tried to restore there as well by renaming the zip file of the OTA I downloaded from ipsw.me and that did not work.

honestly, im not concerned since I have two

these two have been collecting dust

so I want to put em to good use

lol

[ionic copper]

You can’t make the ipsw. I have it

I’m currently updating the script though

[clear kayak]

slide that over playboy 👀

interesting! will it only work with your script?

in other words, I cant just take your ipsw and shift + restore it on my pc?

[ionic copper]

Not quite

[clear kayak]

Got it! So I will wait for your script update patiently then!

[clear kayak]

Thank you so much for your help and contribution to this!

[trim wagon]

there's no way this is real lol

[clear kayak]

Yeah idk what all thats about lol

[ionic copper]

Unfortunately it has happened

[gritty hamlet]

source?

[ionic copper]

The fact that the Apple TV bootloops after updating to 18 and downgrading (even to a signed firmware) errors because the nand is broken

hence why online markets have as-is A1842 devices

[gritty hamlet]

ok but like how do you put two and two together

[fluid frigate]

gm mike and zenzeq

[ionic copper]

Well, it's the first modern-ish Apple TV that has a fan back in 2017 which signifies that the processor gets hot based on its performance. With this in mind; updating does tend to raise the temperature (even on iOS devices)

[gritty hamlet]

ok but then how are iOS devices perfectly fine

[fluid frigate]

turdus dev work, so many restores and my phone never exploded

[ionic copper]

Also, the nand was poorly made, hence why Apple changed manufacturers for the 4K second and third gen devices (switching from hynix to another brand.. i forget the name)

[fluid frigate]

hynix also sucks on the wii u yeah so I guess

[crisp crater]

Wii U?

Where

Only here because wii u mentioned

[ionic copper]

So high temps and a poorly-made nand is a terrible combo

[crisp crater]

I love the wii u

[ionic copper]

especially when the nands can't be replaced because they don't make them anymore

nor can you transplant from a newer 4K device...

rendering you with a true forever brick

[gritty hamlet]

ok but you haven't explained how iOS devices are fine

they don't even have a fan

[ionic copper]

iOS devices are fine because they're not built the same. I'm sure many other devices brick from updating and high temps too from hardware damage

it's a rare occurance but it happens

as for the 4K's.. this is a common issue

I've had more than a dozen folks wanting to downgrade (myself included) from a bootlooped 4K and it ran in to nand issues

which are unrecoverable

[fluid frigate]

solder a new nand

[ionic copper]

this was of couse AFTER the update was snuck in by Apple (thanks tim) and it just bootlooped half-way

or folks would wake up to a blinking light

[ionic copper]

Find one

[ionic copper]

also, gm

thanks for your work on turdus.. still trying to figure out a way to boot tethered with checkra1n seeing as a lot of jailbreak tools are unreliable with exploitation

[lavish copper]

How does one uninstall trollstore lite

For tvOS 18.0

[clear kayak]

@ionic copper do you plan to socialize your updated script via reddit or just here?

[ionic copper]

you jailbreak it first

[ionic copper]

Probably here

[clear kayak]

This may be too much to ask but do you mind tagging? 🙏

[ionic copper]

It'll be on the github

[clear kayak]

This it: https://github.com/verygenericname/TV4K_IPSW_Script ?

[ionic copper]

No, it'll be in mine

[clear kayak]

Can you please share the link so I can track?

[ionic copper]

There.. fixed a few things

[clear kayak]

Link?

[clear kayak]

This it? https://github.com/Zenzeq/TV4K_IPSW_Script

This will allow me to go to 13.4.8 first and then go to 18.3 with delayota?

[ionic copper]

No, that has to be done manually

[clear kayak]

But this script will help me create the 13.4.8 ipsw and then I will restore to that via itunes, correct?

[analog elk]

@ionic copper is 18.4.1 supported yet asking for a friend haven’t been keeping up-to-date with everything

Last time I seen it was not

[ionic copper]

incorrect.

[ionic copper]

no

[analog elk]

Thought so

[ionic copper]

I think jailbreaking is the least of our concerns

[analog elk]

Dude, this is a jailbreak server. What you talking about? did I miss something, you working on a project or something

[ionic copper]

a jailbreak server indeed but there's more important things

[analog elk]

My bad bro I knew better than update so I’m not Trippin.

[ionic copper]

granted though, with blobs (and 18.3 delayota) you can always jailbreak FTTB

[buoyant monolith]

Does anyone know if there's a way to force iTunes to download Apple TV versions of apps instead of iOS versions? I think I might have just accidentally discovered something big that might help in that regard.

I just purchased two games that aren't compatible with any of my iOS devices, so when iTunes downloaded them, it chose to download the Apple TV IPAs instead of the iOS ones

I have the encrypted IPAs for proof btw

[clear kayak]

@ionic copper pleaseeee give me a high level of the steps I need to take to get my ATV 4k 1st gen 18.2 to 18.3

Or an 18.4.1 to 18.3

I'm trying my best to understand and not clear based on your answers whether this is possible because you have successfully downgraded one based on your post but maybe I'm asking the wrong questions here and don't know the right questions to ask. So please help.

[shut iris]

why do you want to get to 18.3 in the first place?

[clear kayak]

I want to jailbreak

The two versions 18.2 and 18.4.1 cant jailbreak atm

[shut iris]

ok and you can jailbreak on 18.2 as i remember

doesn’t show it on ios.cfw.guide yet but it’s in the latest palera1n update

[clear kayak]

Atv 4k 1st gen?

Oh interesting

[shut iris]

yes

[clear kayak]

I had been using palen1x

Which did not work

Ill look again and try tofay, thanks!

[shut iris]

probably can’t use latest with palen1x or something

let me check

[clear kayak]

https://github.com/palera1n/palera1n

This it?

Last update in sept 2024 - is there another branch I should use?

[shut iris]

@clear kayak i would wait for @ionic copper to make sure i’m right before trying anything but if you select the rootful version of this guide for “using palen1x” after following the first part of the guide for setting it up it should work https://docs.palera.in/docs/get-started/installing-palen1x-windows/

@clear kayak but like i said wait for zenzeq to make sure i’m right about this because i don’t want you accidentally messing up your apple tv

btw one last thing do you have a goldeneye adapter and dcsd cable? because you will need it to jailbreak

[ionic copper]

This isn't new. Some apps have both iOS and tvOS compatibility. Getting iTunes to force install them won't work and having them encrypted won't work either.

[clear kayak]

Yes

I actually had it on 13.4.8 a while back but updated to latest to then simply get retroarch directly from the app store

But I want to jailbreak again and trying to figure out next steps

Thats why I had it jailbroken for retroarch and stuff

But now I want Kodi

And explore some other things on the higher firmware because I think I get better controller support vs 13.4.8

[shut iris]

yeah controller support is just built into tvos 18 and up now

[ionic copper]

Jailbreaking tvOS is much worse than downgrading

[shut iris]

is it?

[ionic copper]

Absolutely. The exploit is so finicky

The steps are complicated

[shut iris]

since when i thought downgrading/upgrading is the thing that can cause problems

[ionic copper]

You have to cancel mid-way just to make it work, then wait 10 minutes to build another filesystem

[shut iris]

is this just for 18.2?

[ionic copper]

For some it does since their devices are built with bad nand chips

[clear kayak]

So @ionic copper is it possible for me to go to 18.3?

[ionic copper]

It's possible to go to 18.3 but the real struggle is jailbreaking it

Because since 18.3 has SSV, you'll need to create another filesystem which takes up space

[clear kayak]

I'm willing to give it a shot. Can you help me understand how to get to 18.3?

[shut iris]

i mean for me at least on mac it’s been simple to re-jailbreak whenever i decide to restart it for whatever reason, i see how it can be finicky though like once mine went through the exploit then just didn’t boot the os for some reason so i had to retry, probably more finicky on palen1x i assume but i’ve never used it

[ionic copper]

Depends on the processor AMD machines suck

[shut iris]

good i have intel then

[trim wagon]

im struggling so hard everytime re-jailbreaking my atv4k 14.7 with checkra1n, is there a fool-proof way to get it working without a dozen tries?

[ionic copper]

--cli is the best way

Or -c

[trim wagon]

the cable reconnect is the thing that fucks me up

[ionic copper]

Then it's just straight DFU

[ionic copper]

So place it in DFU first

[trim wagon]

it is

and it just remains there

[ionic copper]

Then just switch the cable

And do the command

[trim wagon]

its the goldeneye what's there to switch lmao

[ionic copper]

Lightning

From DCSD to regular lightning

[trim wagon]

oooh

i thought dcsd was a must lmao

[ionic copper]

It is for a DFU

But since the Apple TV reboots, it goes back in to DFU

[trim wagon]

ok that seems to have done the trick

thx a lot

[ionic copper]

Np

[clear kayak]

@ionic copper ? Sorry I don't want to keep bugging so let me know if you want me to back off

[ionic copper]

I do have an idea for that

[buoyant monolith]

But is there a way to consistently force download the tvOS version of an app? I'm mainly asking because I was hoping I could find a way to download tvOS versions of every app I own via iTunes for datamining purposes

[ionic copper]

Not really. If it doesn't have an iOS counterpart then no

this is because tvOS apps can't be used via itunes

hence why there's an AppStore

[clear kayak]

Let's hear it. How can I help if needed? What are the next steps?

[ionic copper]

Do you have a mac? and if so, what kind?

[buoyant monolith]

Okay, the reason I was asking is because I'm trying to find a way to download older versions of an app I own using the Charles Web proxy method, but in order for it to work I need to find a way to force iTunes to download the tvOS version instead of the iOS version (I have already downloaded every iOS version via ipatool, but ipatool doesn't work with tvOS apps)

[ionic copper]

you can download older ones with AppStore++

depending what apple tv you have, you can get to 10.2.2

[clear kayak]

Macbook air m1

I can also whip up a quick hackintosh machine if need be

[ionic copper]

this won't work.

[ionic copper]

what cpu is the hackintosh on

[clear kayak]

10700k

[buoyant monolith]

that supports downloading older versions of apps? I'll have to check that out

[ionic copper]

that could work

[clear kayak]

Intel - i had this specifically to hackintosh but since then moved away from it for a while

[clear kayak]

Great, I'll get that back up and running sometime tomorrow, does that work?

[ionic copper]

This IS for downloading older versions and installing them. What Apple TV do you have?

[buoyant monolith]

I just simply need to download them, I'm not actually trying to install them on my Apple TV

[ionic copper]

currently impossible

[misty mantle]

Help! My Apple TV 4K 2 has a problem and I need to reinstall the system. Where can I find its firmware?

[ionic copper]

You don't.

Your only solution: take it back to Apple

[analog elk]

@ionic copper I would really appreciate it if you could hook me up with that class-dump tool that supports swift, if you could hook me up that would be dope if not it’s all good 😊

[ionic copper]

Meh, I have to fix it still.. I need a better setup

It sucks that everything is updated for Sequoia minimum.

[oak island]

Is it possible to jailbreak Apple TV HD on 18.4.1 ? I’m having issues with Palera1n

[lucid kettle]

what's the best tvos version ?

are there actual tweaks that make a difference?

[lucid kettle]

is palera1n/checkra1n better than just trollstore and if so what can i do thats different

[ionic copper]

no

[ionic copper]

between 14 - 18.2

[ionic copper]

any jailbreak is better than trollstore

[ionic copper]

<@&355174844205367317> anyone care to do slam the hammer on this spammer?

[lucid kettle]

14 has a jailbreak ?

[gritty hamlet]

checkra1n:

(ATV 4K 2nd Generation excluded obviously)

[shut iris]

@ionic copper so uhh how about that tvos 18.5 blob huh? 😅

i think i need to just learn how to make it instead of asking you every time but last time i tried to save one i got confused and did it wrong

[ionic copper]

You know how to get them

Grab tss saver, get the plist then type in the command

[lucid kettle]

what's good about the jailbreak vs troll store

@ionic copper

[ionic copper]

having root access > allowing apps to launch

[lucid kettle]

yeah i get that but

what functionality does that add

for actual

user experience

like are some tweaks really useful or something?

[ionic copper]

Having the ability to tweak everything > tweaking apps and not signing them

the main problem is there's not much interest in the Apple TV seeing as you can only do so much with it

[lucid kettle]

yes

i saw that

there's no ideal tvos version to

jailbreak with palera1n though

i would assume newer is better since u have all the new features + jailbreak

[ionic copper]

not really

especially when updating on older devices just makes it slower and in some cases; hotter

[lucid kettle]

I see

if I turn off the Apple TV or unplug it, I have to start it with my computer, correct

[ionic copper]

Yes

if yor have the right setup, you can use a jailbroken device to jailbreak it again

[lucid kettle]

😭😭

[lucid kettle]

a jailbroken iphone can do that?

[ionic copper]

yes, or ipad or ps4

[lucid kettle]

oh that's crazy

could u send me the resources about doing that on iphone

or just where to look

[ionic copper]

There's a package called ra1npoc

I don't know if that'll work for the latest versions.. but it might

[lucid kettle]

latest versions of tvos?

[ionic copper]

iOS/tvOS, yes

seeing as they use different methods of exploitation

[lucid kettle]

yes

i found the github not seeing tvos listed though

[ionic copper]

It works in tandem, it's specifically supposed to run on iOS to jailbreak others

[lucid kettle]

it has a10x though i guess

[ionic copper]

One could make it for tvOS, but if it reboots.. good luck

[lucid kettle]

could make it?

[ionic copper]

yes, compile it to run on tvOS.. it would be counter productive imho

[lucid kettle]

yeah

i still need those

weird cables for gen 1 4k

@ionic copper

even using the phone?

[ionic copper]

the 4k is pretty specific. I wouldn't use an iphone to jailbreak it

but the HD is viable

[lucid kettle]

yeah thought so

still would definitely recommend a gen 1 4k jailbroken over troll store just cause of all the tweak options yeah? @ionic copper

[ionic copper]

Absolutely not

If you want a good jailbreakable device, get the HD

[lucid kettle]

oh i see

[ionic copper]

it's slower but much less complicated and it won't brick

[lucid kettle]

why would

4k brick?

[ionic copper]

Because the device gets too hot which causes internal damage in some cases

[lucid kettle]

💔

[ionic copper]

Also, you have to buy 2 cables for the price of a used unit

[lucid kettle]

how am i gonna play the best edition of minecraft

💔💔

[ionic copper]

cost ineffective when the HD is one usb-c

[ionic copper]

You can play it on the HD

[lucid kettle]

yeah i'm seeing that

[ionic copper]

I wish Apple would just give us a fun device

nothing too serious, weed out the privacy.. just something we can use to hack and play with

like an Apple TVe...

[lucid kettle]

yes

@ionic copper i tried looking at videos of the tweaks on apple tv

and found nothing

[ionic copper]

There's some tweaks out there. Most of which are incompatible

probably because.. less interest

[lucid kettle]

😭

apple tv so beloved

[ionic copper]

also with Apple adding security, it makes research and development difficult

[lucid kettle]

if i was using it as a media device

the 4k one would do a lot better

like

no jailbreak

just as media device

[ionic copper]

sure but you're stripping away its potential

[lucid kettle]

💔

i wanna see the tweaks

[forest knoll]

If I Jailbreak my phone will I have the risk of it getting bricked

[ionic copper]

Depends what phone

[crimson glade]

Okay my cables came today but idk how to use them. I assume an adapter won’t work?

[crimson glade]

I assume if my Apple TV isn’t entering dfu it’s because I’m using an adapter?

[ionic copper]

to enter DFU on the 4k first gen, insert the goldeneye first

then connect DCSD (make sure the lightning end of the cable that says "top side" is facing down)

reboot the apple tv, and this'll trigger DFU

[crimson glade]

I tried but its not going. My Mac only has usb c so I’m using an adapter

[ionic copper]

it doesn't need to be connected to a mac, just any power source via USB. This can be a wall charger too

[crimson glade]

Ill try again

[ionic copper]

if DFU still doesn't trigger, it could be 1 of 2 things:
Defective Goldeneye - you can connect the USB portion to the mac via regular lightning and see if your Apple TV picks up in Apple Configurator
Bad DCSD - best wat to diagnose if this cable works is trying serial port connectivity. You could install an app called CoolTerm and run the baudrate at 11500, then reboot the Apple TV and it should show some kind of output

[crimson glade]

Now this is what I’m looking at

Reboot and try again?

[ionic copper]

Okay, so it kind of picks up something

what tvOS are you on?

[crimson glade]

18.2.1

[ionic copper]

Okay, so yes, reboot and retry

terminal will automatically go again once it picks up

[crimson glade]

Do I need to let it fully boot or just unplug and replug power cable?

[ionic copper]

so you plug in the cables prior to connecting the power cable

once the cables are plugged in, then plug in power

within 2 seconds, the Apple TV will rapidly flash

If Apple logo pops up, it didn't work

what should happen; is Apple logo, then rainbow logo with code on the TV

[crimson glade]

I meant since the cables are already plugged in can I just pull the power cable and replug?

[ionic copper]

Yes

you can also use reset via menu and tv button on siri remote

(if you're too lazy to pull the cord)

Adapters should work if there's correct power distribution

[ionic copper]

It looks like the adapters getting in the way

Sanity checks are usually conducted if there's a connectivity issue.. usually with incorrect device states and/or power

try this: place the device in DFU mode via DCSD cable

then replace DCSD with regular lightning

Also, don't do it while it's booted up, always run palera1n in DFU mode

recovery mode tends to mess up

[crimson glade]

Can I use UBC C to lightning?

[ionic copper]

Yes

The Apple TV isn't as finicky as iOS devices, so usb-c shouldn't be a problem

[crimson glade]

Same thing

[ionic copper]

If you let your Apple TV boot normally, does it stay in recovery mode?

[crimson glade]

You mean without the cables?

[ionic copper]

yes

[crimson glade]

No boots normally

[ionic copper]

Odd, Do you have another machine?

[crimson glade]

Just my steam deck

Could it be due to 18.2.1, @subtle swan and @untold sedge if I’m not mistaken said that might not work here

[ionic copper]

Oh wait.. you'll need to do -cf --cli because of SSV

using -f won't work unless you create a fake filesystem first

which is where -c comes from

[crimson glade]

Going to try now

[ionic copper]

hopefully no sanity checks

[crimson glade]

Same thing this time

[ionic copper]

oof

it might work with the adapter and lightning - usb-a

[crimson glade]

F

ill give it a go if I still have one of those

[ionic copper]

Interesting how you would not when that's the oldest cable since 2012 😛

[crimson glade]

I have a bunch of lightning to USB C and USB C to USB C, still searching for an older one

I guess ill have to buy another cable and try this another day. I don’t have lighting to USB A

[ionic copper]

RIP

[crimson glade]

Thank you, ill let you know when I get another

[ionic copper]

np

[vapid sedge]

Oi

[ionic copper]

Io

[plucky token]

Whats the latest tvOS that palera1n supports?

is it 18.3.1? Not that its signed anyways

[ionic copper]

Yes but still plausible to get to with blobs

[plucky token]

I’m on 17.4, I reverted my jb to start fresh then I reset my Apple TV but now I can’t sign into my Apple ID 🤦‍♂️

Had to reset it again and that fixed it

[misty zephyr]

Wath the tag BTK ?

[civic venture]

@ionic copper I’ve used this a few times for extracting artifacts from checkra1n

https://gist.github.com/C0deH4cker/80b53de22012146ea9d8

https://github.com/checkra1n/PongoOS/issues/72

[ionic copper]

I have compiled that but kind of unaware of what to type in

[civic venture]

the cli args would be ./binary <path to checkra1n> <segment name of thing to extract> <section name of thing to extract> output_file.dmg

to extract ramdisk.dmg, which (as seen in mach-o view) is embedded in checkra1n as __CONST,__rdsk:

./compiled_binary /Applications/checkra1n.app/Contents/MacOS/checkra1n __CONST __rdsk ramdisk_output.dmg

__CONST == segment name, __rdsk == section name. other segments are __TEXT, __RSRC, etc

machoview formats them like Section64 (segname, sectname)

[ionic copper]

Inb4 a GUI is made

[civic venture]

lol

binwalk looks like it can identify the stuff that's embedded in checkra1n, and there is a GUI for binwalk... https://github.com/gcarmix/HexWalk

[ionic copper]

Binwalk is nice.. I was also using a Mach-o explorer but no way to extract on that

[plucky token]

After I wiped my ATV (HD) I forgot to turn off auto update and it auto updated from 17.4 > 18.5, does PaleRa1n support 18.5 yet?

[ionic copper]

No

If you have blobs...

[plucky token]

Unfortunately I don’t :/

[outer spruce]

how do i save my blobs anyway

i completely forgot

[ionic copper]

Blobsaver can for the HD

[outer spruce]

what

~~ but what about the 4K ~~

also send apps

[ionic copper]

4K has to be done manually

I have left instructions here

[outer spruce]

aren’t blobs useless because it’s on 16.0+

[ionic copper]

Just get the Buildmanifest from the firmware you wish to save, then follow my guide for the command via tss

[ionic copper]

For newer devices yes

Older, no

[outer spruce]

the A10X 4k

1st gen

[icy trout]

Might be a silly question. I plan on buying an apple tv. Not sure which one but I do want to jb it. I wanted to ask if the 2nd gen support newest apps? Thanks.

[ionic copper]

that's not newer

so no

[ionic copper]

second gen apple tv or second gen 4k?

[icy trout]

Not 4k

[ionic copper]

second gen is beyond outdated.

[icy trout]

But that doesn't mean I won't buy the latest that can be jb off ebay

[icy trout]

What would you recommend i purchase to jb and still be able to install the latest apps?

[ionic copper]

You can jailbreak them but there's no AppStore

[ionic copper]

The HD

[icy trout]

It's just called apple tv hd?

[ionic copper]

Yes

[icy trout]

Ty so much!!

[carmine steppe]

the apple tv hd is literally ewaste save ur money

[icy trout]

What should I get that I can jb?

[carmine steppe]

nothing

buy an android tv box or some shit

[icy trout]

But I already have fire tvs🙃 I just wanted to try Apple TV but I understand what you’re saying

Ty!

[brazen terrace]

Right now the AppleTV JB side isn’t that big and neither are the apps for it. If you want a better experience an android tv is most likely a better option. However things are definitely happening in the background so don’t give up on your AppleTV’s yet

[ionic copper]

issue with android boxes: you can't update them

[ionic copper]

I got a firestick to try out... it takes 3 reboots to boot

[carmine steppe]

if you're in the US the onn boxes get updates

but it's not as bad as tvos you can still use modern apps on old android tv versions

[ionic copper]

truth be told; it never was that big in the scene.. primarily because it isn't portable

nor has the capability of doing what the user wants

[carmine steppe]

you're spending at minimum like $60-$70 for a 4k 1st gen + ethernet cable thingy

[ionic copper]

usually 60 bucks just for the cables iirc

[carmine steppe]

assuming $40 for a 1st gen 4k it's not worth it

if you want emulation you might as well get a 3rd gen and sideload stuff or a cheap mini ryzen pc

[ionic copper]

Tis why I mention getting the HD

[carmine steppe]

HD is unuseable though

[ionic copper]

how so?

[carmine steppe]

I have one it stutters doing literally anything

Open an app, it stutters

switch accounts, 20 second delay and it stutters

[ionic copper]

If you update it, yes, it tends to lag, but luckily you can downgrade them

[carmine steppe]

sure video playback is fine once you deal with all that, but for $30 you can get an onn 4k plus that plays 4k and doesn't stutter nearly as bad

[ionic copper]

I still question why Apple brought tvOS 18 to the HD

[carmine steppe]

and has ad free youtube

[ionic copper]

HD does too, if you sideload an app

[carmine steppe]

yattee? or is there another one

[ionic copper]

I believe there's a few of them

[ionic copper]

I also found that jailbreaking eliminates most stutters

only issue with that is: jailbreak detection

[carmine steppe]

Lol tvos apps have jb detection?

[ionic copper]

Yes, unfortunately some folks who love to pirate take advantage of checkra1n/palera1n just to rip the DRM off some apps in which, has made the devs update them to detect it

Especially Netflix, Disney, Hulu, Peacock and more

I believe Prime Video has DRM protection now from rooted devices

[brazen terrace]

Would this trigger however if... say someone sideloaded an app?

[ionic copper]

I'm assuming you're speaking in terms of decrypting said app, patching it and re-sideloading it?

[brazen terrace]

Oh no just other apps

[ionic copper]

If the sideloaded apps had said protections in place, yes

[ionic copper]

@civic venture is there a reason that the rdsk and overlay are mainly empty?

[civic venture]

They don’t contain much. what are you expecting to find?

[ionic copper]

Well I did notice that checkra1n runs pongoOS which then, upon detecting what device on what firmware states "found old-style ramdisk!" which I'm wondering if this is within the included ramdisk and a command is sent or if checkra1n has different ramdisks.. and if so, where is it?

[crimson glade]

Tried on Linux. Could it just be TVOS version?

[ionic copper]

This issue isn't because of the version of your apple tv

What does kind of work is when you unplug and replug really fast in some cases

[ionic copper]

I did see one issue.. It looks like you're running on AMD

[crimson glade]

Yeah I was trying on my steam deck since it worked to jailbreak my iPad 7 in the past

I bought a USB a cable and it made no difference

Even tried another usb c to USB a adapter

[ionic copper]

Good luck with AMD especially with palera1n. They don't play nice

[crimson glade]

F

Guess I just need a windows device

[ionic copper]

If you have a jailbroken console like a ps4, that could work too under Linux

[crimson glade]

I may just try my work computer but idk if it’s bootloader is locked or not

Fuuuuuuck

Now it’s just looping lol

[ionic copper]

Yes, this is what happens when power management from the processor to the I/O ports is insufficient.

Thanks a lot AMD for cutting corners

[crimson glade]

Fucking A

And my work computer is locked from booting external devices

What an epic waste of money this all was lol I give up

[ionic copper]

Can't you access the bios?

Turn off secure boot

[ionic copper]

If you have the USB camera adapter, you can set up the Apple TV to jailbreak on a jailbroken iOS device

[crimson glade]

My iPad is jailbroken

It’s usb c tho

Would any of these work?

[analog elk]

@ionic copper can’t you jailbreak the Apple TV with your iPhone? I’m pretty sure you can do this with an adapter. For the HD models, however you would probably need to be jailbroken or have trollstore installed for it to work, I will probably give this a shot and see how well it works

[ionic copper]

the top one might if you have some type of usb splitter for a power brick

[ionic copper]

You're asking me this when I..

If you have the USB camera adapter, you can set up the Apple TV to jailbreak on a jailbroken iOS device

[analog elk]

Correct because palera1n does have a iPhone arm64 version which should possibly work in theory

[ionic copper]

And yes, you can jailbreak an Apple TV with any portable jailbroken device

even gaming consols too

[ionic copper]

One would just need to install the dependancies that futurerestore uses which are on procursus

[analog elk]

Yeah, I’ve done switch, but I can’t jailbreak my PS4 with 11.00 with it :/

Because it requires lan I looked into it

[ionic copper]

yes you can

there is a jailbreak for it

[analog elk]

I know but executing the vulnerability on iPhone without a computer. That’s what I’m talking about. That can’t be done. Well that’s what I’ve heard so I just use my computer.

[ionic copper]

Again, yes you can.. there's actually a palera1n app

[analog elk]

I’m talking about the PS4 bro 😎 I was responding to the consoles

[ionic copper]

the only downside is you need to have palera1n at first to install it

[ionic copper]

Yes, the ps4 can run linux which can be used to jailbreak

I've jailbroken a phone with a ps4 linux

[analog elk]

Yeah, I know the jailbreak works on PS4 but you need a way to exploit the PS4 before you can load anything on it. That’s the problem so you either have to use a computer with windows or Linux or use the raspberry pi

The exploit works through ethernet
On 11.00

[ionic copper]

ehhh, not quite. I've seen people run the exploit via their routers

mind you it's a specific router you need

[analog elk]

Yeah, there’s many different ways, but it would be pretty dope if you could run the exploit through the iPhone, but I’m going to just solder a luckfox to my pro so it would be more convenient

[ionic copper]

thanks gir

[analog elk]

Dude, maybe you should try to jailbreak your Apple TV using your jailbroken iPhone just an idea if you have a lightning adapter that has usb and can plug in the adapter to power, I got a really cheap adapter off AliExpress that works perfect

[ionic copper]

one day we'll have a jailbreak delivered from our ipads to our heads to other devices

https://tenor.com/view/jabrils-conspiracy-hat-tin-foil-hat-youtuber-gif-19615145

[ionic copper]

I can tell you missed the message..

#tvos-jailbreaks message

[analog elk]

Yeah, sometimes I misread messages. No need to be rude about it though I’m just trying to help the community, bro

But hey, I guess I’ll leave that to you from now on

[civic venture]

those logs come from the kpf pongo module https://github.com/checkra1n/PongoOS/blob/4c9b7541629234147fcc778f0ce4162482aaccef/checkra1n/kpf/main.c#L1877-L1886

there's only 1 ramdisk embedded in checkra1n, but you can make it use whatever you want. idk what the differences are between styles of ramdisk

[ionic copper]

I've been trying to upload a ramdisk but it seems that /private/var/checkra1n.dmg fails to mount

[ionic copper]

Is there a possibility to have checkra1n automatically apply kpf whilst a device is already under pongo? much like palera1n detects a device under pongo and proceeding to execute commands?

[civic venture]

it might be kind of annoying to do, i think that requires changes to the closed-source tool, but anything is possible

[ionic copper]

I wouldn't mind like an automation-like sequence to it. Running checkra1n on its own always asks for DFU but I'd like to have it detect pongo, then auto-run the rest without manually sending/loading everything in

this kind of looks interesting.. command_register("autoboot", "checkra1n-kpf autoboot hook", kpf_autoboot);

[civic venture]

yeah actually if its already in pongo then checkra1n isn't a necessity. you could script pongoterm up to send kpf and auotboot like https://github.com/checkra1n/PongoOS/issues/72#issuecomment-833177765

[ionic copper]

where is this cmd.txt?

[civic venture]

something you would create - doesn’t normally exist. It’s a way to pipe multiple commands to pongo at once

[ionic copper]

ah, just echo-ing all the terminal commands

[icy wolf]

Hello zenzeq

Hello DXCOOL 👏

[ionic copper]

Hi

[crisp dove]

is it possible to get ps remote play on jailbreaked apple tv. 2nd gen 1469

[ionic copper]

No

[amber olive]

Hello

[heavy patrol]

Has there been a fix for Prime

[weary condor]

!t roblox

[boreal monolith]

Hey @smoky dragon, have a look at this!

roblox

This Discord server is for iOS jailbreaking, not Roblox. Please keep your discussions on-topic, thank you!

Added by SlimShadyIAm#9999 | Used 2,835 times · Dec 21, 2020, 9:17 PM

[ionic copper]

Yes, use HBO /s

[heavy patrol]

Canada

Dont have that

[ionic copper]

You do with a VPN

[jaunty rune]

Airplay

[odd stone]

Can we get Disney and prime to work on rooted Appletv 4k?

Also was checkrain updated to latest FW yet ?

[ionic copper]

No

It's not checkra1n, it would be palera1n

[ionic copper]

Looks like Apple TV HD and 4K first gen are the last checkm8 devices to support the latest...

[silent ice]

anyway you can jailbreak apple tv to run android tv apps?

[silver stratus]

@hallow forge holy cow

[hallow forge]

Die

[silent ice]

my bad im new to this i just want onstream without stupid android tv

[ionic copper]

yes if you trade the apple tv for a kodi box

[icy wolf]

How?

[ionic copper]

Read above message

[icy wolf]

Missed that. No way. Not going to trade with stupid Android

[remote aspen]

Fr

[weary condor]

Fr

[oblique sigil]

Is anyone gonna try com.apple.SwiftUI.IgnoreSolariumHardwareCheck on tvOS 26

[ionic copper]

Sure, I'll try

[polar flax]

good install android or windows on it

[crimson glade]

No, I don’t have a vagina.

[polar flax]

wtf

[crimson glade]

I’m just going to use a windows pc. Not that pressed to ruin my iPad

[polar flax]

Install Linage OS on Your iPad

its best android OS

[ionic copper]

[crimson glade]

It was a joke mostly but I guess went over heads

[ionic copper]

took me by surprise that you don't /s

[crimson glade]

Nice rebuttal

[last hamlet]

T

[lethal dune]

this guide mentions an MAX3421E USB host shield, but I can only find MAX3421 on AliExpress. does it matter? https://ios.cfw.guide/using-checkm8-a5/

[ionic copper]

For.. Apple TV 3?

[lethal dune]

Yeah….

[ionic copper]

It shouldn't matter. Although I wouldn't shop at aliexpress

[dire gyro]

guys, how do i compile NitoTV

https://github.com/lechium/nitotv this one

[leaden geode]

ios.cfw links it

I can make a PR to change it, but to where?

[ionic copper]

You don't. It comes with the jailbreak.

[ionic copper]

Probably blackb0x github

Unless it's the cfw github

[leaden geode]

change the link to buy a usb host protector from aliexpress with a link to blackb0x?

[ionic copper]

Sure but investing in that to jailbreak an ancient apple tv is pointless imho

[leaden geode]

checkm8-a5 is also used for ipads and iphones

[ionic copper]

Still a bit redundant when they're so low in memory and nothing really works for them

It's great just to say you did it

[dire gyro]

i was talking about the atv 2/3 version

[ionic copper]

As was I.

[dire gyro]

wdym then

because i jailbroke with blackb0x

and nothing shows up

i had to add @1080.png to the kodi appliance folder for it to show up, but there's not even an appliance for nito

[ionic copper]

Because you have to keep it plugged in for another 5 minutes or so for the program to run the scripts

[dire gyro]

do you mean i have to rejailbreak

or can i just run the scripts myself

[ionic copper]

Either or, easier to rejailbreak

[dire gyro]

are the scripts just commands sent through ssh or

[brazen terrace]

Theres really no reason to JB any older Apple TV's...

Zenzeq helped me once with BlackBox and tbfr there isnt much to get from it

[ionic copper]

Yes

[ionic copper]

There might be in the future but yet, it'll all be obsolete

[brazen terrace]

Until an proper on device app signer releases I highly doubt any bigger innovations will be done

Especially since you need a cable and allat

[dusky crown]

Hi, new user here I just received my AppleTV 4k (with ethernet, A2843). I purchased a Foxlink GoldenEye and DCSD cable thinking I could use it with this model, but it seems the ethernet port of this particular model is not compatible anymore 😦

So I'm starting from scratch and wondering if it's even possible to jailbreak this particular unit.

[brazen terrace]

Yeahhh you got a Apple TV 4K 3rd gen. You need a 1st gen Apple TV 4K to be able to jailbreak.

[ionic copper]

You could sell that and get a first gen 4k.. It's a bit of a stretch but you should profit in the end

[molten fractal]

Forgot to turn off autoupdate and my apple tv is updated to 18.5 . There is no way to downgrade to 18.3?

[ionic copper]

What Apple TV is it?

[odd stone]

I have atv4k 14.7, is it worth being jailbroken and to get newer apps to run?

Most apps complain about it being old

[ionic copper]

What 4K is it?

[odd stone]

first gen 4k

[ionic copper]

Newer apps nowadays require 17-18.3

[keen vessel]

Best streaming apps to sideload to Apple TV?

[civic venture]

you can coerce an app to use a newer dyld cache, as a way to work around version issues

[ionic copper]

Issue with that is, seeing as Apple TV is all server-based, they use their apps to phone home to relay the device info and if it doesn't match, then it prompts for an update

[odd stone]

Thx, do we expect a JB soon for that latest FW?

[leaden geode]

!t eta

[boreal monolith]

Hey @odd stone, have a look at this!

eta

We have no way of knowing. When there is news, it will be in #announcements

Added by flower#1116 | Used 1,018 times · Aug 31, 2022, 7:56 PM

[leaden geode]

@ionic copper is there anything to sideload on appletv with a certificate

4k 1st gen on 18.5 so no jailbreak

[ionic copper]

Probably TrollStore

Granted though that might not work with a certificate..

[leaden geode]

It doesn't have support for a cert but I ruled that out because 18.5 doesn't have CT

[ionic copper]

Well no but I was thinking you can use that to install ipas

I'd say Kodi if anything

[leaden geode]

But how can one use trollstore to install ipas if trollstore isn't supported?

[ionic copper]

Given you're jailbroken you still can but it was a shot in the dark thinking the certificate could be signed on to other apps via TrollStore.. If one were to modify it to do so

I'd stick with Kodi and maybe that ad free YouTube app

[brazen terrace]

It really REALLY isn’t that simple to do Zenzeq but I get what your coming from. I’ve been in contact with the main dev working on a Apple TV signer but apparently it’s not an easy feat sadge

[molten fractal]

it's 1st gen 4k A1842

[ionic copper]

You can go from 13.4.8 and use DelayOTA

But it's risky

[ionic copper]

There was Reprovision that worked.. Required a jailbreak to install though

[heavy patrol]

Is there really NO hope to fix prime video on < 18.2

Legit pissed it wont even work on 17.0

Also the background works/plays it just the prompt shows and u cannot use the app at all

[ionic copper]

There is, just not really worth it when you can update and downgrade whenever

[heavy patrol]

Not on 4kgen2/3

:/

Even youtube got adblock recently

[ionic copper]

You can thank Apple for that

[heavy patrol]

Was really hoping there was a way

[ionic copper]

I could modify the app to work, the only issue is the old app has incompatible frameworks

[heavy patrol]

Please try 🙏

[icy wolf]

I really hate it when a few apps become unusable and everything just gets stuck and asking to updates the firmware.

Wait till all those apps will require tvOS 26 firmware 😡😡😢

[heavy patrol]

i just wonder why its enforced on tvos, and not on ios

[icy wolf]

Your iPhone is JB?

[heavy patrol]

yeah

[icy wolf]

WTF

[ionic copper]

because people pirate

Especially when output is in 4K or higher whereas iOS/iPadOS doesn't have that output

[jaunty rune]

MAX too!

[heavy patrol]

is max broken too

cant use that cuz we dont have in canada

[ionic copper]

What's max?

[icy wolf]

Makes sense 👌👍😊

[ionic copper]

HBO?

[icy wolf]

Nothing in Canada Watch CBC😂

Don't get offended bro. I am also in Canada

[heavy patrol]

That app sucks lol

Legit prime is the best thing atm unfortunately

[jaunty rune]

Ha yah should have said hbo

[jaunty rune]

@icy wolf isnt the hbo stuff on Crave

[jaunty rune]

Esp if you know the vpn trick

[heavy patrol]

The content on prime is preferred for me but ye

Also i pay for amazon prime but not crave so ye

[jaunty rune]

Anyone know if safe to delete stuff in mobile/Library/Caches/AppleTV/Video

Guessing yes?

[ionic copper]

If you can extract that and see what it is.. I think that's screensavers.

[jaunty rune]

Is this not the screensaver location? #tvos-jailbreaks message

This is whats in /AppleTV/Video

[ionic copper]

It probably depends on the OS version.. Maybe apple changed it?

I would say it's safe to delete. It's just cached info

Although expect different things to happen

[jaunty rune]

So its def not screensavers. One is a movie trailer

…maybe videos that were airplayed?

Yah so far ads and movie trailers

Almost certain its airplayed media

[ionic copper]

Why that's cached instead of just streamed is beyond me

I do think they get deleted after a reboot

[jaunty rune]

There were files from years ago in there so dont think so. Its definitely power cycled more recent than that

[humble gulch]

https://altstore.io/download

[hearty shale]

@ionic copper do u mind pm u ?

[ionic copper]

For what

[hearty shale]

Got a appltev 4k 1st gen and was little confused on how to proceed to root it. Am i able to bypass APPS being restricted to specific FW?

[ionic copper]

What tvOS is it on?

[hearty shale]

15.0

No blobs so not sure how to go to 18.3

Can i do this without blob saved?

https://ios.cfw.guide/get-started/Apple-TV-4K-(1st-generation).html

[ionic copper]

Blobs are only needed when you're advancing firmware

In order to jailbreak, you'll need 2 cables

Goldeneye and Alex DCSD

[hearty shale]

thanks i will search them but if you know good places to order them from, please let me know

and how do i go from 15.0 to 18.3?

[hearty shale]

advance means downgrade ?

[ionic copper]

Yes, or to switch in-between

[hearty shale]

ok so am i able to go from 15 to 18.3 or i cant?

sorry english not my main language so can be not very clear

[ionic copper]

Not at this time

[hearty shale]

what is your current rooted fw if i may ask for your 4k atv?

[ionic copper]

18.0

[hearty shale]

ok nice thanks

[icy wolf]

It saying Address is invalid. Cannot download.

[ionic copper]

Probably because you're not in the EU

[icy wolf]

I just start my VPN pointing to UK London and its same message. I checked and verify my current IP after starting my VPN.

[unreal sand]

vpn is not enough

(also the UK isn't in the eu either)

[ionic copper]

Doesn't it go based on geo location.. like you'd have to have your phone inside that area and not just spoofed?

[unreal sand]

you have to do a bunch of stuff to spoof it if you can't enable the values manually in mobilegestalt (which would only work on 17.4(.1))

i.e. never using cellular, setting up your router to a different region, effectively putting it in a faraday cage

[ionic copper]

All-in-all; not worth it imho

[unreal sand]

absolutely not especially since you would need to do all of that every 30 days if you ever connected to a cell tower or wifi connection that doesn't appear to be from the eu

[ionic copper]

unless you're Snowden

[icy wolf]

Change it to France and still no go

[hearty shale]

@ionic copper I have a request that i would like to talk to you private about. Do you mind PM you ?

[ionic copper]

About what?

[ionic copper]

?

[icy wolf]

Amazon is banning all third-party apps installed on Firesticks and Fire TV Cubes. This could be due to pressure from the DMCA or a move toward introducing a new operating system aimed at eliminating piracy and blocking third-party app installations. It appears this could signal the end of the line for Amazon Firesticks and Fire TV Cubes as we know them.

Love Troll Store

[icy wolf]

Any jailbreak for the Apple TV4 tvOS 26 firmware?

My friend has reset his ATV4 and updated with new firmware tvOS 26. I told him do not

[ionic copper]

There's not even one for 18.5

[ionic copper]

your friend could only do that if they opt in for the developer version. Tell 'em to go to 13.4.8 and delay OTA to 18

[visual viper]

Hello guys

I just bought an apple tv hd A1625

and it is on tvos 15.5.1

can anyone here guide me on how to jailbreak or install trollstore

I tried installing trollstore using a guide on reddit but when i put my apple tv to sleep and open it few hours later trollstore and the apps install is not working

[ionic copper]

you can jailbreak via palera1n

[ionic copper]

what guide did you follow?

[royal garnet]

Anyone knows how to fix this it hasent been turning on from early 2024

[polar galleon]

we dont support this type of tv

[fading pelican]

yo anyone here

anyways i got a question about the palera1n jailbreak for tvos is it like any different than the guide says cuz its the same one for ios and i don’t know if like you’re supposed to do something different

nope

cuz like can i install dopamine on tvos

[uneven wraith]

No

[fading pelican]

ah okay

[uneven wraith]

I wrote all the tvOS jailbreak guides except for the palera1n one because the process is identical, yes

[fading pelican]

okay

[uneven wraith]

Get device in DFU and get USB connection

[fading pelican]

thanks then

[uneven wraith]

if you have a tv 4k 1st gen

you need like $50-60 of cables not including tariffs and whatever bull shit

also theres a chance it just doesnt work

i recommend jail breaking an HD instead

[brazen terrace]

Wouldn’t the new eu USB C thing also apply to AppleTV’s or can they still fuck around with those cables?

[uneven wraith]

Why would it

They don't charge

and besides

[brazen terrace]

I’d say they qualify for it? The latest google tv streamer has a USB C port Shrug

[uneven wraith]

they could just not hook up data wires to that usbc port

it's that easy

the TV 2 and 3 have microUSB ports but you can't do anything much with those, all the fun stuff is on a 30pin that's not installed from the factory

[brazen terrace]

Stills it’s much easier to jailbreak an HD rather than the 4K. Also there’s really no reason to jailbreak them

I was just talking about like transferring data and stuff

[uneven wraith]

thanks for the info

i didn't know

[brazen terrace]

No need to be an ass about it lmao

[uneven wraith]

wifi:

[brazen terrace]

Your not gonna be transferring multiple 4K movies through WiFi without issues

Shits slow too

[wooden belfry]

Can i use a windows pc to jailbreak apple tv

[leaden geode]

depends

what apple tv and tvos

[wooden belfry]

Apple tv gen 3 7.9

[leaden geode]

Not with windows

[fading pelican]

where was i told i needed special cables it doesn’t say that anywhere on the site

also i kinda wanted the 4k over the HD

also let’s say i do get a 4k gen 1 tv, if its on tvos 15 or smth, could i update to 18.0.0 somehow

[analog elk]

Help jailbroke phone with checkrain but I don’t know how to delete the iCloud lock thingy do u know how to I have a max of that helps

[uneven wraith]

No

[uneven wraith]

Ooh does it not say that on the palera1n guide

Look at the tvOS checkra1n guide

You need:

• DCSD (not a clone)
• GoldenEye

[leaden geode]

!t icloudbypass and also you are in the wrong channel

[boreal monolith]

Hey @analog elk, have a look at this!

icloudbypass

Discussion of iCloud/Activation Lock/passcode/MDM (Mobile Device Management) bypass, asking how to do it, or posting about it is not allowed. No, it doesn't matter if the phone is yours or not. We will not help you with it. If you do own it, it’s recommended to use the links below.

If you forgot your Apple ID - Apple Support

If you forgot your Apple ID password - Apple Support

How to remove Activation Lock - Apple Support

If you forgot the passcode on your iPhone, or your iPhone is disabled - Apple Support

Added by JTV#5846 | Used 3,750 times · May 21, 2021, 4:49 PM

[fading pelican]

yeah, it also says at the bottom of the guide that you can use dopamine since it’s the same process for tvos and the ios guide, i put a pull request that just added a statement saying that dopamine was not for tvos

nope

[uneven wraith]

i'll write up a separate palera1n tvOS guide later

[fading pelican]

cool

also the guides are wrong

if you go to apple tv 4k > install Odysseyra1n/checkra1n, it redirects you to the ios one, you have to search up the ones for the apple tvs

[fading pelican]

@uneven wraith i don’t know if i can ping you, but i’ve got a question

[uneven wraith]

Thats not something I did

[uneven wraith]

Dunno why you wouldnt be able to

[fading pelican]

oh, anyways

if i jailbroken a 4k 1st gen, would I be able to install a more up to date tvos like 18.0.0 to install the more recent jailbreak

[uneven wraith]

Did you save blobs?

[fading pelican]

no

[uneven wraith]

Nope

[fading pelican]

dang

even if it’s jailbroken you wouldn’t be able to install an unsigned ispw?

[uneven wraith]

No

[fading pelican]

dang

guess i got to look for a 4k with 18.0.0

hopefully people didn’t update it

[wet hornet]

yall got any idea to jailbreak a apple tv 4k 3rd gen

[leaden geode]

Not possible

[edgy adder]

is there a way to mitigate using dcsd

i have goldeneye but clone dcsd and yeah it does not go to dfu

i got trollstore setup anyway but i would like tinkering

[unreal sand]

there's no software based jailbreak if you're on a version that needs a dcsd

[ionic copper]

~~tell me about it ~~

[wet hornet]

sad

[olive estuary]

Hello guys, I bought an Apple TV 4K first generation(A1842) from FB marketplace for trying out JB. Fortunately/unfortunately it runs on tvOS 11.2.6. I was able to JB it with Electra, but cannot install any tweaks or open any apps except photos, settings and computers. Where should I go from here ? Should I upgrade to next JB-abel tvOS version ? Is it even possible ? 11 feels like unsuable. Thanks

[cyan veldt]

You can upgrade to 13.4.8 with goldeneye, but it’s not worth it. Just update to the latest (or delayed ota) and wait for palera1n support

[ionic copper]

I'd save the blobs first before updating

Then you can get back and experience the nostalgia

You can also try rebooting then rejailbreaking

That seems to work on some cases because electras exploits can be unreliable

Upon jailbreaking, you should be able to SSH in. This'll make saving blobs way more easier

I'll even walk you through what's making things crash by typing in some commands if you'd like

[fading pelican]

what do you mean delayed ota

what makes it delayed

[ionic copper]

DelayOTA is what is called when an unsigned firmware is still signed over the air via a time period of delay

Using a profile

[brazen terrace]

For companies that are slow af basically aleinaOk

Not sure why they are needed though

[ionic copper]

Why what's needed

The profile?

[brazen terrace]

DelayOTA, I know companies use it I just don’t know why they need it

[ionic copper]

Because in the event that the latest version doesn't work with corporate apps, then corporate can easily downgrade within a 90-day window until things get updated.

Along with other feature implementations and protocols

[brazen terrace]

Oh yeah no that makes sense thx for explaining aleinaOk

[edgy adder]

is there just no way to enter dfu without legit dcsd

i have the goldeneye

[ionic copper]

Dcsd is required for 4K since apple removed it via remote

[noble steppe]

My Apple TV is stuck on AirPlay screen

Not connected to internet and can’t do Ethernet

Any ideas? Don’t have a Mac or any way to install iTunes

[ionic copper]

What Apple TV is it?

[noble steppe]

Apple TV 3rd generation

@ionic copper

[ionic copper]

I'm guessing the airplay screen looks like..

[noble steppe]

No second I’ll boot it up

Looks like that but no internet it just says connect to WiFi

[ionic copper]

why not just restore it

[noble steppe]

Running arch Linux rn don’t have a MacBook. Ig I can use wine and boot up iTunes but ima have to go get a micro usb cable too😅

Oh well… was trying to avoid but it is what it is

[ionic copper]

you don't need a mac to restore it

you can use idevicerestore

which works well with linux

[noble steppe]

Oh?

I’m stupid😎

Okay thank you:)

[ionic copper]

brain fart

[noble steppe]

🫡been awhile since I’ve been in the community

Took a hiatus

[ionic copper]

although.. before restoring it

I'd connect it to your linux machine

and run ideviceinfo

see what OS it's on

[noble steppe]

It was jailbroke last time it was on

😅

[ionic copper]

Yes, this way you can save the blob and re-restore if it's not on the latest

[noble steppe]

🫡

[ionic copper]

that is, if you're a fan of nostalgia

[noble steppe]

Alright thank you:p

[ionic copper]

sudo pacman -Syu idevicerestore-git iirc

You might also need: build-essential, libtool-bin libtool-dev, liusbmuxd, lib mobiledevice-dev, libdevice-glue-dev

Been a while since I used arch.. it's an absolute headache

[noble steppe]

I gave up and just bought a new Apple TV😎 usb cable didn’t have data on it

😂🧙

[ionic copper]

.. You invested in a brand new unit when a USB-C cable would be cheaper

[noble steppe]

I would need a micro usb

My time is more valuable 🧙

It’s easier for me to go to the store and buy a new one then have to order a micro usb because no one carries them anymore

[ionic copper]

for the apple tv 3?

[ionic copper]

amazon prime:

[noble steppe]

Takes too long😔

Wifey wanted movie time now

[teal bear]

Is palera1n not going to be updated for tvOS 18.5?

[ionic copper]

Until the devs figure out how to fix it, not for the time being

[fading pelican]

yo @ionic copper

so like do you think it’s going to take a while for them to update it

[ionic copper]

Depends

[fading pelican]

on what?

[main oak]

Hey @fading pelican

Are you knowledgeable with apple?

[fading pelican]

a little bit

why

[ionic copper]

On how much time the devs have and how much more security Apples put in their OS

[fading pelican]

ah

[ionic copper]

What do you need?

[fading pelican]

this guy

@main oak

[ionic copper]

they left the chat

[main oak]

I need a way to brick iPhones via software without breaking apple’s TOS

[ionic copper]

Not sure what you mean

Also, why do you 'need' to?

for what reason?

[trim wagon]

smash it against the concrete floor

[leaden geode]

how come palera1n supports up to 18.3.1 on the HD 4th gen but up to 18.3 on the 4K 1st gen

[gritty hamlet]

tvOS 18.3.1 is strange because it was only intended for the 4K 3rd Generation

...and then they released an ipsw for the Apple TV HD at the same time for some reason

[ionic copper]

Do you have any idea on the progress of palera1n for newer firmwares?

[gritty hamlet]

you'd have to ask Nick Chan when they want to deal with that

[ionic copper]

I'm also talking about overall devices too (supported ones)

[fading pelican]

yo i got a question, would it be worth buying a 4k gen 1 on 18.5 or whatever the latest is rn, and waiting until palerain supports it

[ionic copper]

No. Get an HD

Granted palera1n supports it, you need 2 other cables to jailbreak it with

[fading pelican]

why an hd though, i’m fine with getting the two cables and also i get more processing power compared to an hd

[ionic copper]

Because in the event that you bootloop, it can be easily fixed

[fading pelican]

what do you mean easily fix

how would i even bootloop, i though ssv stopped access to root and some other stuff

[uneven wraith]

18.2+ correct, on any lower version it doesn't. There are no ipsws to allow restoring a 4k 1st gen - also, sometimes the two cables just won't work

[fading pelican]

so like do you think an hd would work well like streaming 1440p content?

[uneven wraith]

the HD can only do 1080p

that's why it's called the HD

if you want higher resolution, don't jailbreak

there's basically no reason to anyway

[ivory geyser]

Just get a powerful Chinese android box or sthm

[ionic copper]

publicly available ipsws, usb-c connection via any computer, Itunes recognition = easy

[ionic copper]

Issue with those: they can't be updated

There are no ipsws to allow restoring a 4k 1st gen - also, sometimes the two cables just won't work
Incorrect. There is a 13.4.8 IPSW

[plush wasp]

@ionic copper what’s up buddy long time no talk, i’ve been out of the jailbreaking scene for a while and I was just wanting to know. Has there been any progress? What’s the latest we can jailbreak now on the Apple TVs I know they killed off the iPhones so hopefully we get more support for tvOS

[ionic copper]

tvOS 18.3

[plush wasp]

Okay cool thanks

[ionic copper]

maybe 18.3.1 too?

[plush wasp]

Hmm okay interesting thanks for the update

[ionic copper]

Sadly, 4K devices like to update and there's nothing for 18.5 nor 26

[brazen terrace]

Checkm8 still works on the latest tvOS version does it not?

[ionic copper]

It does, but Apple's patched the kernel patch finders which is one factor that hinders code execution

[brazen terrace]

Now why didn’t Apple just do that with the iPhone X

[ionic copper]

They did, but since iOS is so heavily focused, it gets updated more frequently than tvOS

so jailbreaks pop more

[brazen terrace]

Oh right so it’s not impossible just not given the needed attention.

[plush wasp]

Hopefully the palera1n team can fix this mess

[ionic copper]

Certainly not impossible.. it's just a common lingering question of "what's the point of jailbreaking an apple tv?"

[plush wasp]

To tinker 😂

[brazen terrace]

The benefits are basically nonexistent really

Side loading however…

[ionic copper]

99% believe "Hey, free movies!!"

[ionic copper]

Meh, you can still do a lot of stuff. I know the Dooms on my repo /should/ still work

[plush wasp]

Wow ppl smh lmao just do a plex server use you legit copies of Blu-ray and you’re good to go no jailbreak needed

[ionic copper]

so there's some classic entertainment without needing to setup an emulator and download roms from some sketchy source

[brazen terrace]

I just hope a certain signing company decides that making an on device signers for AppleTV’s is worth it and makes it happen

[ionic copper]

people don't have legit copies. Digital entertainment runs folks more on hard copy than subscribing and no-one wants to subscribe

especially when X amount of dollars doesn't give you ad-free content

[plush wasp]

Dude, I have so many Blu-rays. It’s ridiculous. 😂

One of my local pawnshops you can get one Blu-ray disc for a dollar or two they’re super cheap

[ionic copper]

Issue with that is, Apple can revoke at any time

[brazen terrace]

Not if intended for developer purposes

[ionic copper]

I used to rip my bluerays from my jailbroken ps3 to play on Apple TV because the PS3 would emit so much more heat

[ionic copper]

Hence why Apple wants you to pay for their certificates 😛

[plush wasp]

That’s dope I just got a lua exploit Japanese dish from my PS4 yesterday it’s pretty dope

Disk

[brazen terrace]

Orrr… you could always buy from a certificate company for like 15$ and get an AppleTV cert

Which I got (technically)

[ionic copper]

I love the common misconception that a jailbreak can simply make unsigned apps work including the jailbreak tool installed on-device.. what is little known knowledge of course is: what happens when you reboot after 7 days?

[brazen terrace]

Oh yes… which is why with a certificate you can just… sign the apps and make them work for a year. It’s an unexplored market for now though.

[ionic copper]

Theoretically; I've made the new webkit exploit for chimera-installed Apple TV's work..

[brazen terrace]

Ooouuuuhhh

Yeah I don’t got allat

[ionic copper]

Until Apple revokes then you need to bust out the laptop

[ionic copper]

Only issue with is: installing the browser app

Which then it's like.. "well, we need to sideload it anyways"

[brazen terrace]

The cert provider I use haven’t been revoked since like 3-4+ years back

[ionic copper]

Do you still pay them?

[brazen terrace]

Oh yeah that kinda makes it meh lmao

[brazen terrace]

You can check them out yourself I’ll send their link in DMs

[elfin haven]

is it possible to jailbreak on 18.5 with the other palera1n branch?

[trim wagon]

is palera1n stable yet?

[ionic copper]

No

18.3.1 is the only compatible version so far

[ionic copper]

Define stable

[trim wagon]

i honestly can't :D

i wouldn't call checkra1n stable but i guess it's the most stable thing we've got?

any known issues compared to checkra1n?

i use palera1n on my atv4hd and couldn't notice any issues

i use it less than my atv4k but my 4k kind of gets silly after a while and requires a reboot

[ionic copper]

Well, some would say that placing the device in recovery mode first would leave it in a state where it never gets out of recovery mode on the 4K devices with palera1n