#tvos-jailbreaks
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@brave stone
I know with iOS where I have changed my root password, if I reboot and rejailbreak the password is still kept at what I created. I have not tested a reset and rejailbreak but I imagine the reset will undo any custom passwords.
Has anybody got .deb files for following tweaks:Appstore ++
Bluetooth Control
Breezy
CCNetwork
ethereal
Lethargy
OpenSSH
Preference loader
RespringBackboard
Sharing them would be piracy sorry
that’s been my experience as well. i would think it’s the same w the tv that if you unplug , root password remains because so does all your apps, settings, info etc. but a reset/restore would wipe everything including root password out.
i have another question actually. where is the best place to request a tweak to made for tv once nito repo is back up & running & i can re-jB (this time successfully 🤞🏼) ...
would it be r/TweakBounty or the genius bar here? in my experience the tweak bounty is mainly iOS & maybe iPadOS , cus i have yet to see any tv tweak requests in there.
What are some reasons for jailbreaking an apple tv?
Hey @analog elk, have a look at this!
Why jailbreak an Apple TV?
Tweaks and features such as:
AirMagic - Control your Apple TV via any web browser.
DalesDeadBug - Spoof your firmware version.
AppStore++ - Downgrade Apple TV apps from the AppStore.
nControl - Use other controllers for your Apple TV.
TVControlCenter - Install control center tweaks for ease of access. (13+ only)
Breezy - AirDrop files to and from your Apple TV from any device.
SnowBoardTV - Decorate your Apple TV homescreen with awesome themes!
Doom & Quake - Play the classics from your childhood right on the big screen!
emulators, multimedia, code execution, custom respring animations/wallpapers/ screensavers and so much more!
he'll be back.
unless nito reappears 
Can not be piracy. Cause these free and not copyrited!
thats not how it works
you can pirate free software
piracy is just unauthorized redistribution, which extends to free software
so unless those packages have a license that specifically permits sharing, its piracy
unless stated otherwise it's copyright
thats literally the law
No unless. You need to apply for copyright. Do not mislead people. https://www.wikihow.com/Apply-for-a-Copyright
fucking
read the tweak's license then
go on
if they dont have a license, they're considered all rights reserved in some areas
What is carbridges license anyway
well its paid so take a guess
titand3v 💀
southerngirlwhocode claiming they're southern then putting their tweak prices in a foreigh currency
your mom
sshd is foss so that can be distributed
do you know about copyleft?
the license of a package must allow redistribution, otherwise it is piracy to distribute without permission
violating copyleft also is considered copyright infringement as well, at least according to the united states federal court
The Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works, usually known as the Berne Convention, is an international agreement governing copyright, which was first accepted in Berne, Switzerland, in 1886. The Berne Convention has 179 contracting parties, most of which are parties to the Paris Act of 1971.The Berne Convention formal...
can you actually read the shit you send next time thanks
within 5 seconds of reading it said that its optional
And. If there is no claim, no copyright! It is ok to spread these tweaks via Nito store, but piracy if you copy and share outside of Nito store. Unprotected and fake signed. Bollocks. Show me term and conditions of use? If there is none, so you can stick copyright up your ...
The Berne Convention formally mandated several aspects of modern copyright law; it introduced the concept that a copyright exists the moment a work is "fixed", rather than requiring registration. It also enforces a requirement that countries recognize copyrights held by the citizens of all other parties to the convention.
terms and conditions not necessarily needed
they own the intellectual property the moment it is created, regardless of registration
i wish the r word wasn’t filtered
noooo we cant say ratio
.
"Copyright is designed to protect the author's right to profit from his efforts. Breach of copyright, also known as copyright infringement, happens when someone uses, displays, distributes, sells, performs or reproduces a copyrighted work without the owner's permission. " Main thing in the 1st sentence. Copyright is to protect author's right to profit. Since these tweaks for free no breach of copyright.
yet in the second sentence it proves our point as well
Breach of copyright, also known as copyright infringement, happens when someone uses, displays, distributes, sells, performs or reproduces a copyrighted work without the owner's permission.
piracy: the unauthorized use or reproduction of another's work.
all of this extends to free software as well
In copyright law, infringement does not refer to theft of physical objects that take away the owner's possession, but an instance where a person exercises one of the exclusive rights of the copyright holder without authorization.[17] Courts have distinguished between copyright infringement and theft.[14] For instance, the United States Supreme Court held in Dowling v. United States (1985) that bootleg phonorecords did not constitute stolen property. Instead,
"interference with copyright does not easily equate with theft, conversion, or fraud. The Copyright Act even employs a separate term of art to define one who misappropriates a copyright: '[...] an infringer of the copyright.'"
if it's GPL you have to make the source available too.
not sure how that would work if you only have the .deb
here you go
So you saying Nito store distributing piracy?
No. Because that's authorised distribution from a repository
the devs have authorized their tweaks to be hosted on the nito store

so no
can you confirm that's the same source code as the atv version though
^^
Where does it say opposite?
there is a difference between a dev approving of their tweak being hosted on a repository vs a random discord user uploading their tweak somewhere without permission
?
Where is authorization?
The developers literally put the files on the repository 
Themselves
Willingly
if i can find the repo maybe
but if they make no change to the software then technically they dont have to rehost the source code as well
Doesn't help that nitotv is down
true
then that's distributable as compiled + source, as long as it's GPL or similarly licensed.
if so
would be neat if it was possible to decompile everything and find a licence in the source code.
seriously doubt that's going to happen though
Just hack them for source code
i know there's a clause that allows you to use unmodified gpl work without needing to relicense the whole project, but idk if this extends to compiling as well
Do not confuse authorisation and copyright. Author should put all this in writing.
What
what are you even talking about
Thats the main thing
nitostore does not infringe on copyright because the devs upload it themselves
I've had enough tbh, this was fun yesterday but now it's boring
they are giving explicit permission for the repo to host their packages
Piracy bozo be gone time?
that's easier than hacking them for licences
it doesn't have to be in writing because it is assumed once they upload it to the store
Delete their source code copy, just change the licence, and reupload it as your own

Where does it say so? Where do you get all this? Prove me with facts!
software engineers hate this 1 trick!
Do we seriously have to describe to you how a repository works
nitostore exists
dev wants their tweak on there
they ask nitotv "hey can i put my tweak on here"
nitotv says sure
THIS IS WHERE THE DEV GIVES EXPLICIT PERMISSION TO HOST IT AS DEFINED BY COPYRIGHT LAW
the package goes live on the repo
all is well
I mean yeah... technically.
But unless you have logs or a written agreement it's pretty easy to say it was pirated.
i dont get whats so hard to understand about "the dev gives permission therefore it isn't copyright infringement"
that would be retroactive though, then nitotv just removes it from the repo ezpz
Where is source to your text?
the fucking copyright laws??????
I've actually lost the plot of this
sure, it would. but it would be difficult to prove that it was retroactive, and piracy would still have been committed.
are you saying a dev is actually incorrect when they give permission? that it's piracy because you say so?
Nothing in copyright law about repos!
dude
You make me LOL
REDISTRIBUTION
that is a repository's main purpose
copyright law mentions redistribution by name
The temptation to get him out of here is real
Ok. Seems here all lawyers we gonna stuck for long LOL
long lol is the best lol
i love long lol
same tbh
I wonder how illegal it would be to snipe nitosoft.com's dns registry and point it to an archive of the original repo 😂
i'm guessing "very"
that was years ago
I mean if the original tweak devs on the repository are fine with it
oh fr
yeah that was so long ago @fleet parcel posted about it
Woe

nito's still active if you look hard enough, at least one of his accounts is.
i haven't been able to contact him in a while though.
fingers crossed he's ok but just irl busy
Yea
What can we do with ATV 3?
Any tweak to enabld Bluetooth headset and side loading apps? Thanks
Already got kodi
I'm saying without anything in writing a situation like this is possible https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/its-official-prenda-copyright-trolls-made-their-own-porn-seeded-on-pirate-bay/
nitosoft.com had no auth. it was possible to mirror it without even an apple device.
would it not count as writing when the dev uploads it to the repo?
it's going to depend on how detailed logs, if any, you have of that.
an IP address can't legally be tied to a person 100% of the time
i don't have any evidence that other devs put their work on nitos repo themselves. if you do i'd be interested in giving it a look.
i don't have any info on the backend but the frontend is just a web server
i dont see why it would be any different from other repos in the sense that devs upload their own packages
so if i hosted a mirror of nitos repo right now, what would be different
i'm pretty sure the devs didn't upload their software to my local mirror themselves
well first of all it probably wouldnt work completely since it has payment providers, and secondly your mirror is not the nitotv repo, therefore it becomes unauthorized distribution
nitos repo had no authentication.
no payment provider
it would take me all of 15 minutes to set up a web server, a dns server and host my own local mirror of nitos repo
as far as my atv would be concerned it would be nitos repo
the point is, what evidence do you have that nito didn't get permission and put other developer's packages on his repo himeself
the fact that he hasn't been dmca'd for charging money for packages of other people's work is pretty good proof that he has permission
as far as your atv is concerned sure, the mirror is the same one
but if i download a pirated deb file that has the same bundleid as the legit one, my phone also can't tell the difference
i'm not sure where you're getting this idea that he's charging money for packages on the nitosoft.com repo
yet it's still piracy and copyright infringement
nitosoft.com had no authentication
right. and getting permission from a copyright holder to distribute their work licences you to distribute their work
how do you download stuff like ncontrol then, which has a price listed?
what packages were non free on nitosoft.com repo@unreal sand?
i genuinely don't know since i don't have an atv
it was on a different repo
not the free one
so he has two repos?
yes.
even then, why would a dev not be able to send a repo maintainer a copy of their software for that repo maintainer to add manually themself?
that's perfectly fine too
right.
the point is: without a written agreement, hosting someone else's copyright material opens yourself up to copyright lawsuits even if they shared it with you themself
i guess, but repos like havoc have forms you fill out and it all has to be approved by the maintainers
although i don't entirely know how it works, i'm assuming nitotv has something similar
if you have evidence of that i'm all ears
a bog-standard deb repo is just a web server.
anyone with basic tech knowledge can put one up in 15 minutes
I jailbroke my apple tv 4k with checkrain a few years ago. and i remember it did something to block updates. but ive tried restoring file system and resetting but updates still wont complete.
anyone know what nitotv does to block updates, or ran into this before?
seems ipsw.me doesnt have ipsw's for atv4k
yeah 4k is ota only afaik
iirc there's a setting in nitoTV under utilities that blocks updates
Maybe I’ll try rejailbreaking and see if I have that enabled
The update keeps failing on after step 1 of 2 during install
Does nito still have a discord?
Yeah but it’s dead
factory reset?
So what you doing in this thread?
Bad example of copyright claim. Nothing to do with tweaks. Do not use pirates bay. Simple.
wat
You all worried about copyright too much. It was just one case when someone uploaded free material on pirates Bay and later claimed copyright. One sick fuck. One case out of billion.
wat
twat 
I just need to ask him or someone there how I can see why the tv is failing to update
I’ve reset, I’ve also used the jailbreak and hit restore file system. I also made sure updates are not blocked
Well he isn’t been online for some time so he won’t help you
I really only want to update because Netflix won’t launch without being updated. Is there any work around. It also won’t let me stream Netflix from my phone
Lol. Maybe someone else there. Could you send me an invite?
Sure dm me
What tvos r u
13.3
I’m on 14.4 and Netflix and everything works fine
Oh that’s why
If u want to do a work around u can get kodi and install Netflix player into kodi
And play your Netflix from there
Is there any way I could restore the files on ipsw.me. I know it’s not an ipsw, I unzipped it and took a glance at it. But was wondering if I could just replace the files on my system with the ones in the ota zip
I’m also confused why it’s only 13.8 that’s “signed” what’s it even mean to be signed when users technically can’t even restore. I have breakout board so I can
That’s a good idea actually. I’ll do that. I’m sure I could make a tweak to bypass the version check but that takes time and I’ve got people coming over tomorrow
You can even install repos to watch things without acc
Ah cool. I never really messed around with kodi too much. Just torrented stuff on my pc and scped them over to the tv
the files in an OTA are differential patches, not complete files.
i think the tvOS integrity checks would stop your atv from booting even if they were complete files and you just replaced the old files.
I remember blackra1n
Please DM me if you have .deb files for following tweaks:Appstore ++
Bluetooth Control
Breezy
CCNetwork
ethereal
Lethargy
OpenSSH
Preference loader
RespringBackboard
Piracy
Your arse. No piracy cause software are distributed for free.
speak English
The short version of it
Nobody's giving you the debs
Sorry. But that's just how it is
Speak for yourself.
Excuse me?
About nobody.
I don't see your point
Speak for yourself about nobody. I acting and answering on behalf of everyone.
What are you the president of (country)?
You guys ruining the whole idea of jailbreak by calling distributing FREE software as PIRACY. It never worked like this before. If you carry on thinking like this the jailbreak will not be possible in the future.
How is it my fault that rules exist
Also for the record jailbreaks are already dying.
JAILBREAK is what NEO did in the MATRIX movie. But unfortunately I can not meet NEO on this subreddit. Only BOTS. LOL
If you did not get idea in the movie no point to continue conversation.
Cause of the BOTS like you
You reply like a BOT. No individuality
bro's talking like a 57 year old man 💀
Look you're testing my patience I hate to tell you but a good portion of the people here will tell you the same thing, they aren't giving you the debs
just ignore this motherfucker his name is literally eugene
just needs a mute for drama
True + @odd frigate bozo
gg


wat
They can't reply because they're muted 
i'll just have to wait with bated breath for more of his incoherent diatribes i guess
Lol that's weird as heck
imagine getting so far up your own ass over digital files while being completely incoherent to normal human beings 
tfw he took the red pill, the blue pill, and a whole bag of m&m's without chewing
Whats the benefits of jailbreaking tvos
Why jailbreak an Apple TV?
Tweaks and features such as:
AirMagic - Control your Apple TV via any web browser.
DalesDeadBug - Spoof your firmware version.
AppStore++ - Downgrade Apple TV apps from the AppStore.
nControl - Use other controllers for your Apple TV.
TVControlCenter - Install control center tweaks for ease of access. (13+ only)
Breezy - AirDrop files to and from your Apple TV from any device.
SnowBoardTV - Decorate your Apple TV homescreen with awesome themes!
Doom & Quake - Play the classics from your childhood right on the big screen!
emulators, multimedia, code execution, custom respring animations/wallpapers/ screensavers and so much more!
i wonder how many of those have freely available source code 😂
Bro talks like a NPC 💀💀
Whats same thing. Bellend😂
so looks like you havent learned from your mute
Who are you?
who are you is the real question
Dot tell me what to learn! You have no authority over me!
tf are you talking about
did you try looking for source code for any of your wishlist of packages.... mr. anderson
So with dalesdeadbug i could be on 13.2 and download an app that requires 14+?
@stiff finch
Yes and no. Dalesdeadbug opens the door to do that but the app you download may have dependencies that only reside in tvOS 14. In this case, the app will likely crash when you open it under an older OS version. It's hit and miss but a good tool to have because sometimes the app you want does work.
Why would I need this mr. potatohead 😂?
no idea actually.
can't think of a single reason the source code might help you out there.
must be getting old ig 🧓
just checking back in to see if nito is still down & if any other temporary jB method has released if it is... haven’t asked in a while.
- yes 2. no
dang it. thank you for responding.
Hi guys! How do I update my IOS from 11 to 14 version manually ? thank you !
by getting brand new unit with TVoS 14 factory pre-installed.
ios or tvos
because you’re in the tvos channel
Hi. Did you get new unit?
a “new” unit. not exactly. i got a Gen 1 Apple TV 4k. not the newest Gen 2 4k one if that’s what you mean, no.
I am asking if it was brand new. You can not jailbreak 4k gen2 obviously.
So brand new off the shop?
Why do you need temporary if jailbreak is working, apart from Nito? You can install an app from command line.
not new. i got it used off of eBay.
Ok. And it was with old TVoS?
jailbreak wasn’t working for me. it technically did jailbreak the device, but necessary files weren’t updating or even installing/unpacking properly. couldn’t download tweaks or do anything w it.
14.7 yes.
Sure. Cause Nito is down. When I rejail mine I had to manually install com.morpheus.binpack_1.0-9_appletvos-arm64.deb.
i removed the jB because the Verizon FiOS app detected system modification & i replaced the FiOS cable box w the Apple TV & since i couldn’t install any tweaks to avoid detection , it didn’t make sense to stay jailbroken.
ok
this was the file i needed or one of them , but when i had that & went to install it , it then needed a dependency I didn’t have. didn’t know how long that would go on yk or how much more I would need after that.
how did you install without the required dependency? or how did you obtain it exactly & did everything work after that?
cy+model.appletv was it iirc. like 99% sure that’s what i needed & couldn’t find.
I had to transfer to box this file with Cyberduck. SSH to it and run dpkg -t. Later dpkg --configure -a
yeah when i tried that it needed cy+model & that i unfortunately couldn’t find.
It just fixed Nito, but not the repo access. I only needed jailbreak for Kodi and some other apps
yeah it wouldn’t fix anything for me because it wouldn’t install morpheus.binpack without cy+model so i couldn’t get anything at all to work. if i could get that dependency i could probably go on without the repo cus Nito would be fixed. i just don’t understand how you were able to install it without cy+model but maybe i will try again. it kept stopping me at that part.
I used my own previously backedup .deb for TVoS 13.4.8 for AppleTV4. This might be the case. Is your Morpheus bin pack exactly same name with file size 2,093,244 bytes ?
i don’t know the file size for sure off top but i’ll check but it’s def the same version number 1.09 i remember that much.
yeah the name was def the same. i’ll get back at you in a few when i’m by my laptop for the exact file size.
I never notised any tweak to hide jailbreak detection for FIOS inside Nito store, but I might be wrong.
that’s what i’ve heard. i’m hoping i can request it in TweakBounty to be made if that turns out to be the case.
i’m sure i’m not the only one trying to block jB detection on ATV in one app or another lol. hopefully someone can come through w it.
A little chance someone would reply. TVoS jailbreak community is very small.
yeah but i’m still hoping lol. that’s my only shot. i guess in the worst case if i can get Kodi & some other similar alternatives i maybe won’t need FiOS anymore, but i guess i’ll see when either nito repo is back up or find the cy+model file required for nito app to work again.
you can get Kodi. I am using it. I think Morpheus not needed to install.
yeah i couldn’t install any packages without binpack or unpack any of them & i couldn’t install binpack without cy+model & over & over in the same circle. it was an endless loop for me. extremely frustrating.
this is the Morpheus i kept seeing when it kept asking for it lol
felt like Neo being stuck in a damn Matrix. a Matrix of not being able to jB our devices freely.
Check file size
Anyone having issues entering in a 2FA password for Reprovision? I just get a spinning gear.
Just a heads up.. seems peacock is working with no jailbreak detection. Im on 3.5.11
@spark summit @analog elk @olive delta @analog elk #bot-commands next time pleae
should have pinged one more person 
.
its down
a few weeks
Will it get back online?
I Reset my Apple TV because I thought it was the problem
we dont know
is it possible to remote play Xbox or Playstation on AppleTV with or without jailbreak at all? not sure if that’s a silly question, but i was just wondering about this.
you might want to look into if there are xbox or playstation apps for ATV that support that.
out of the box stock ATV only supports airplay.
the PS & XBOX apps aren’t on Apple TV. i was wondering if there was a jB app or tweak that would allow for remote play yk.
Afaik no
I’ve been looking for one for the ps and didn’t find any
thanks. yeah that’s a real bummer tbh. it’s cool you can do it on iOS/iPadOS, no doubt, i just wish i can bring the ATV on vakay & plug it into the tv screen to play games as if it was the console i brought w me. as opposed to just playing on the tinier two screens.
You can do it and airplay to you appletv will have a lag but idk
I thought u only can play ur ps via same network
yeah i heard the lag is outrageous that way though. hopefully soon come w the official apps.
Well I’m jailbroken ps so idk don’t use the remote play
For me with video almost none lag
my vita is jailbroken too. you can still remote play. even without a paid account.
oh my bad
i thought you said Vita. you said via lol.
Really? Need to check something then I can turn on the ps with HomeKit via remoteplay but I thought u can’t use the remoteplay lol
Should be the same I guess cuz same network kinda
i meant on the Vita if you jB you can still remote play. i’ve only ever played that way tbh. i tried on iPad but just to see if it would connect didn’t actually play anything.
Try screen mirroring might have a bit lag but worth to try I guess
So I think I already no but want to verify. My dads tv 4 had auto updates on so he is on 15.4.1 I believe he said. He’s screwed and can’t jailbreak isn’t he until checkra1n gets updated or a new jailbreak tool?
that is correct
Well damn thanks
If you have tv4 you can downgrade to 13.4.8 and jailbreak
tvos jailbreaks
shut
no u
Does anybody know how to use connect a wii remote/another IR remote to use with Kodi?
ATV 4 and 3rd gen
Also, appreciate some guidance on how to flash an updated Kodi on ATV 3, having trouble connecting via ssh
wii remote pairs over bluetooth
!t whyjbtv
Why jailbreak an Apple TV?
Tweaks and features such as:
AirMagic - Control your Apple TV via any web browser.
DalesDeadBug - Spoof your firmware version.
AppStore++ - Downgrade Apple TV apps from the AppStore.
nControl - Use other controllers for your Apple TV.
TVControlCenter - Install control center tweaks for ease of access. (13+ only)
Breezy - AirDrop files to and from your Apple TV from any device.
SnowBoardTV - Decorate your Apple TV homescreen with awesome themes!
Doom & Quake - Play the classics from your childhood right on the big screen!
emulators, multimedia, code execution, custom respring animations/wallpapers/ screensavers and so much more!
Someone knows if there is a telegram for tvos or somehow to put videos from tele to Apple TV
tried airplay?
g
Tbh no will try
Is nito tv down?
yes
Hi
/waves
/jailbreak name:Sileo
Does any one know the terminal command to manually install a DEB? Since Nito repo is down I am looking to install tvOS browser which I previously had installed through Nito on another box. I copied the deb to /var/cache/apt/archives where all the other debs are located on the new box but need to know the install command.
@austere warren
Did not work... "dpkg: error: cannot access archive.... No such file or directory" Does that command know where to pick up the location of the deb which is at /var/cache/apt/archives?
what emma said.
or if you're cd'd into the directory with the .deb files already:
dpkg -i ./filename.deb
Thanks guys it worked!
sileo isnt a jailbreak
My Apple TV may be bricked lmao
Pc crashed while jb’ing and then stuck in dry
Dfu*
Dude it jus keeps getting stuck on setting up the exploit (this is the heap spray)
what computer / atv
computer is jus an hp but im booting to mint using vmware
the tv os is 14.4
has been jb b4
intel or amd processor?
also, tried bootra1n?
doesn't work with amd afaik
I can only find a signed 13.4.8 firmware downgrade. I'm unable to find 14.7 signed firmware, so there is no possibility for me to downgrade to 14.7 without the signed file
not without the relevant blobs
you would have to have saved those for your specific device while 14.7 was still signed
@frigid moat
I have all blobs for my 4HD device which is currently on u0 13.4.5. Since Nito is down, what's your opinion... is it better to just wait for him to come back online again?
jus re jailbroke
if I was currently jailbroken I wouldn't update until nito's repo is up or an alternative is available
there isn't anything stock tvOS on higher version does that I need though
@frigid moat
tvOS 14 itself doesn't really offer me anything better than 13 but the challenge is some apps now require 14 to be installed, especially my paid sports apps.
i hear you. that's gonna come down to what's more important to you.
if there's an alternative, eg. airplay or a 2nd atv you might be able to eat your cake and have it too
Hello. I'm upgrading to 15.5. Does the tvOS profile still prevent ota updates?
since when was jailbreaking apple tvs a thing?
since like forever
Since the first generation one
can someone send me a list of 'ra1ns'? 
Newest infuse crashing on 14 for anyone else?
no, it's running fine for me on 14.8
sorry it’s 14.5
Any news?
Nope
checkra1n
limera1n
blockra1n
purplera1n
unthreadedra1n
whitera1n
you mean blackra1n?
yea
onak1n
😃
pout1ne
new checkra1n’s name
T1nt1n
d1v1s1b1l1t1es
Hi, i have an ATV gen 2 and i have jailbreak him with blackbox and i have kodi, so i would like install youtube but ATV FLASH is paying, do u have an alternative ?
How long can it take for nito to be back up and running? I was under the impression that they are having server issues and will take couple days to a week to get it running etc. So now I'm wondering what's the average waiting time.
i don't think there is anyone actively supporting it anymore
it could be indefinitely
That's what I'm starting to think, so don't want to be an idiot and keep my hopes super high and rather ask if anyone potentially knows from the past how roughly the length of time it goes offline. But looks likes I shouldn't keep my hopes that high
it was down for like a month last time
then went back up for a few days, then went back down again
and now we’re here
so who knows
jb scene seems generally in a sad state right now
This is due to shill admins who might be working for Apple too. Only such people can brand sharing FREEWARE software within.deb files as PIRACY. And everyone obey to this bullshit.
you realize violating copyleft can get you sued right
and no, it’s not the admin’s fault, its the community that treats devs like shit
Link me to a case in the past in supreme court or other court to proof.
Artifex Software Inc. v. Hancom Inc.
SCO Group Inc. v. International Business Machines Corporation
Jacobsen v. Katzer
etc etc
How all or these examples related to me? I am a corporation? Have I got a source code to modify, sell and make profit?
Jacobsen v. Katzer was between two people
and corporations are treated as individuals in the us so
Defendant Katzer is the owner of KAMIND Associates Inc., an Oregon company doing business under the name KAM Industries.
Get me a link to a case where a developer like Kevin Bradley sued an end user by distributing free of charge software the developer distributing frer of charge in the 1st place. How can you claim a LOSS, where no profit involved?
the point isnt about profit
the point that these court cases proved is that an open source license is an enforceable, legally binding contract
therefore if a license says "no redistribution" then you are liable for copyright infringement if you do redistribute it
Binding contracts are signed by both parties. I have not signed anything. Case would be void and null. 😂
the courts disagree with that notion but alright
The lack of money changing hands in open source licensing should not be presumed to mean that there is no economic consideration, however. There are substantial benefits, including economic benefits, to the creation and distribution of copyrighted works under public licenses that range far beyond traditional license royalties. For example, program creators may generate market share for their programs by providing certain components free of charge. Similarly, a programmer or company may increase its national or international reputation by incubating open source projects. Improvement to a product can come rapidly and free of charge from an expert not even known to the copyright holder. The Eleventh Circuit has recognized the economic motives inherent in public licenses, even where profit is not immediate. See Planetary Motion, Inc. v. Techsplosion, Inc., 261 F.3d 1188, 1200 (11th Cir.2001) (Program creator "derived value from the distribution [under a public license] because he was able to improve his Software based on suggestions sent by end-users. . . . It is logical that as the Software improved, more end-users used his Software, thereby increasing [the programmer's] recognition in his profession and the likelihood that the Software would be improved even further.").
Get me a link to a case where a developer like Kevin Bradley sued an end user by distributing free of charge software?
Copyright holders who engage in open source licensing have the right to control the modification and distribution of copyrighted material. As the Second Circuit explained in Gilliam v. ABC, 538 F.2d 14, 21 (2d Cir.1976), the "unauthorized editing of the underlying work, if proven, would constitute an infringement of the copyright in that work similar to any other use of a work that exceeded the license granted by the proprietor of the copyright." Copyright licenses are designed to support the right to exclude; money damages
[535 F.3d 1382]
alone do not support or enforce that right. The choice to exact consideration in the form of compliance with the open source requirements of disclosure and explanation of changes, rather than as a dollar-denominated fee, is entitled to no less legal recognition. Indeed, because a calculation of damages is inherently speculative, these types of license restrictions might well be rendered meaningless absent the ability to enforce through injunctive relief.
already established by the courts
What licence these tweaks going under?
i can tell you its not gplv3
it's because the discord can be shut down if copyright infringement aka piracy is openly permitted.
anything that doesn't have a license explicitly stating that 3rd party distribution is permitted can't be distributed by 3rd parties without infringing copyright, even if it is free.
you know it's not freeware right
missed u btw
yeah this server is partnered
if someone worked out what licenses all the packages are under we could distribute the ones that permit it.
bro are you still arguing about this shit
get a life kid
fuck off you start drama in every convo you see
so your argument is "because it hasn't happened it never will"
you have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the court system works
it doesnt matter if it's happened between companies or people, the verdict is the same and applies to private citizens as well
the verdict given on these court cases does not specify "this only applies to companies"
why hasn't anyone banned this troll?
@calm lagoon 
they've just been causing issues here, and have not had much in terms of actual productive conversations, if any
as mentioned in the court case, the loss of profit is not required to make a case about copyright infringement
.
uh, donations lmfao
the case answers that question regardless

good joke, you got the whole squad laughing

lol that shut them up
there's still ways to get money when making free software: from donations, ads, and probably more things im forgetting
i noticed you cut out the very first sentence, which states "Copyright holders who engage in open source licensing have the right to control the modification and distribution of copyrighted material."
if a dev has a donation link on the website where you download software, and someone redistributes the software as a direct download without needing to visit the website, then some people may never see the donation link
tldr please
i think this sums it up well
eugene is causing arguments, being a troll, and probably breaking copyright law
the admins work for apple? let me use purplerestore pls
i am making a hypothetical argument just like you were
the troll is probably trying to do that
I want
so i can go back to netflix
lol
oo what show
oh boy, the ban speedrun starts now
gir momento
true
he was muted last time too and came back to keep arguing
^
Duration: a day
Reason: argumentative and continued discussion
Moderator: SlimShadyIAm#9999
Time: <t:1655590469:F> (<t:1655590469:R>)
Duration: a day
Reason: piracy + drama
Moderator: nooka#1334
Time: <t:1653047637:F> (<t:1653047637:R>)
there

looooool
wish I was around to enjoy this moment in /r/jailbreak discord's history
rest in spaghetti, never forgetti
🙏
are messages on this server logged? I got a ping on this channel and I wanna see what he said to me 😂
Server messages are logged but lost in time for us lol
same
they are logged but i doubt an admin will be willing to show us
after jailbreak using seas0npass no apps added in TV 2nd generation?
they only have the good stuff on non-US netflix 😔
they got this on amazon prime i think
that shit never works for me lmao, i just use holavpn on my tv, it’s free with no with sign up and it gets every single country in the world
and you also become part of their botnet
looks trustworthy
any infuse users in here? i got a movie which has a audio desync, I got another rip then which now in turn has no audio, wtf....
what could be the issue? 🤔
i’m talking bout android tv
oh
there's a wireguard client if you're jailbroken
so i guess only vpn on router or vpn hotspot from pc or dns is ur opetions
ye
@trim wagon
I use Infuse. Version 7.2 and higher seems to have a stutter problem playing back some content. I get around this by re-installing version 7.1.3 instead. The problem is more noticeable on previous gen 4k and the 4HD models.I have not come across any audio issues though. Have you tried posting your issue on the Infuse boards?
not yet, will try
Ye that’s what I’m doing sadly to watch American shows on Netflix and shit when I don’t wanna use kodi
is nitotv still down & is there another way to jB yet?
got my Apple tv a while ago now & i was the case that we found out nito was down. just curious if it’s back up yet & if i can jB now either w nito or some alternative way to do it.
or if there’s any news at all on the matter that i’ve missed.
no
no
wait you mean no it’s not still down or no there’s no way to jB still?
there's nothing
ahhh. well that was depressing.
so nobody has ever got in touch w them about it or heard any news at all as to when it might be back or if some alternative is being worked on i’m guessing either...
nope
checkra1n should be able to jb without nitotv
depends on what your definition of jb is ig
there's no gui package manager without nito
you can get a ssh shell and run fakesigned bins with arbitrary entitlements , so it is a jb
.
average end user see no gui package manager, considers the device not jb
still is jailbroken though
me omw to compile procursus for appletv
fr fr
What’s the current WireGuardtvOS version? As Nito is down I can’t check if there has been any updates since I last jailbroke my 4K
Don’t think I could find a proper guide to walk through a checkra1n jailbreak on TVos…
Aside from shady YT video guides
what model tv?
also nitotv is down right now so you cant really do much even if you do jailbreak

Hey @spiral quail, have a look at this!
This discord does not support or tolerate any form of piracy. If you discuss, support, link, post screenshots, or talk in voice chats about piracy, you will be warned and eventually banned.
We consider the following as piracy.
• Piracy repos
• Programs which are used for pirating tweaks
• Sharing of .deb files
• Getting anything that costs money for free (in-app purchases, apps, tweaks, etc.)
• Media Downloading\Streaming (music, movies, etc.)
• Installing re-distributed free, paid, removed and banned apps
• Mirror links, unless the mirror is provided by the original developer
• Cases of fraud, such as tools or instructions for obtaining real-life paid objects for free
• Posting or advertising products or services that are in violation of the trademarks of others
If you have questions, feel free to ask a moderator
oh sorry I will remove the post
I guess because it wasn’t paid for so long it’s up for grabs
lol, it’s nito.tv and www.nitosoft.com
lol. not sure why the I had the other one in my history tbh 😂
I Got An Apple TV All Checkra1ned Up.
And The Packman, NitoTV, Is Having An Issue.
I Cannot Install Anything.
"Unpacked But Unconfigured Packages Detected."
TVOS 13.4.8, Checkra1n 0.12.3, As 0.12.4 Did Not Install NitoTV.
cuz nitotv is dead
Is There Another Packman I Can Use Then?
Well, How Do I Get The Files?
maybe eugene knows
Hey i need some help, must i need a remote to put the apple tv into dfu mode
because i dont have a remote but i have a keyboard
What appletv
And jailbreaking Apple TV is useless now as u can’t do much
on Apple TV 4K you can just plug in GoldenEye/DCSD and reboot from settings
on others idk
And the packages aren’t public
Kodi?
3G
Idk if u can install kodi 19 on the 3
Should be
Well ur only way is by remote
welp
Don’t think u can use the Apple TV with a keyboard
Yes I can
I did
But
To put it into DFU is the problem
I can’t do it unless there is a so called key fixed with “menu”
So down button on the Apple remote is down button on keyboard
the arrow key
can we pin that nitotv is down?
So, Can Someone Explain Why The Servers Of A Packman Going Down Makes All Packages Uninstallable From Within It, Even From Non-Related Repos?
And You Know How There's Programs On Desktop For Downloading From Cydia Repos? Is There A Similar Thing For NitoTV?
because the packages are hosted on his server
if his server is offline you cant download them
there is only one nitotv repo
on tvos?
It's Not Just A Packman?
it hosts the packages that make other tweaks work
nitotv
Shit.
pretty sure the deb file is floating around here somewhere though
The Server?
maybe not idk
Is It Open Source?
i dont think so
Well, I Do Have Myself A Dilemma...
Is There A Way To Ignore The Dependency Issue In DPKG Or APT? I Looked Through My Collection And Found I Do Have The Deb File For The Tweak I'm Trying To Use, And I Even Got It Installed, But That Uninstalled NitoTV.
I Had To RootFS And Re-JB.
Okay, I Looked It Up, I've Got A Way To Ignore The Dependencies, I'll Give It A Go And Report Back.
IT WORKED!
Alright, I Edited The File At /Var/Lib/DPKG/Status To Delete Dependencies For NitoTV. I Don't Plan On Using It Anyways, So It's Fine.
NitoTV Now Works For Installing Packages Too.
morpheus binpack is open source apparently
most of it's from apple's open source repo
any permanently signed unc0ver? seems like a new development in r/jb
yeah ik i was referring to unc0ver on the TV, so I wouldn't have to turn my TV on every week to have unc0ver resigned
true
yeah idk if the exploit even works on tvos
nobody has tried it
but unc0ver on ios gives you an error while jailbreaking so either way it probably wont work
does ReProvision not resign while it's in sleep mode?
if you don't mind paying $15/year you can use udidregistrations for a longer signature I guess (up to a year unless revoked but they give quick replacements)
I cant pass the unc0ver jailbreak 😩
I have four 4k devices on u0 13.4.5 and on 3 of them ReProvision resigns them while in sleep mode perfectly. However, on the 4th device when ReProvision attempts to sign I get an error and it deletes the u0 app. All have the same version of ReProvision installed and a unique Apple ID. Can't figure out the reason for this.
my reprovision on my 4k definitely doesn't resign when on sleep
@faint scarab I have had that problem. But, I signed out of Reprovision, resprung and signed in again and re-confirmed the settings. It always worked except for one of my devices where it fails and deletes the jb app
nop
Mine still allows me to airdrop debs from my phone to install
Does anyone have an archive of the deb for com.morpheus.binpack 1.0-7? Nitotv has been down for quite some time...
I Ended Up Just Editing The Dependencies File.
It's The Only Time SFTP Has Ever Worked Properly For Me.
I SFTPed In To The Apple TV And Edited The File To Remove All Dependencies For NitoTV.
Now It Installs Stuff Just Fine.
can i get a tutorial on how to downgrade?
which model
apple tv 4
Just Do An ITunes Restore.
These Are The Currently Signed Versions, 10.2.2 Is JBable With An App Based JB, And 13.4.8 Is Checkra1nable.
15.5.1 Is Not JBable Yet.
(The Packman Used For Apple TV JBs' Repo Is Down, So You Either Have To Install Debs Remotely Or Modify The Dependencies So It Doesn't Throw An Error.)
All these perma signed exploits landing for iOS 14 but tvOS seems forgotten. ☹️
wouldn’t the iPhone OS cert
work on tvOS
plus it is a single exploit
they all use the same implementation
@odd stone
The exploit only works on 14 and u0 and Taurine were never updated for that OS.
theoretically it should work though
Is the remote not supported?
Downgraded my Apple TV HD to tvOS 13.4.8 but can’t get the remote to pair
Since the pic is showing the other remote I feel like it’s not supported
yes
checkra1n exists
correct, the new 2021 remote requires at least 14.0 (or was it 14.5?) to pair
use the old black siri remote or the white atv3 remote
or the remote app on an idevice
or set up a third party remote
Darn that sucks the remote isn’t supported, might just have to do the remote app on my phone
Thinking I’m going to have to borrow an older remote from one of my sisters since the tv isn’t connected to wifi yet
is there a website of saved debs and why nito is down?
Nitotv is down because joshtv dipped 
can we get rid of this single point of failure
procursustv with mirrors eta wen
🥺😖😩
Does nitotv sitill work?
depends on what you want it to do
i'm guessing if you're asking the answer is no
don’t cross post
any way to downgrade an apple tv 4k 1st gen to a jailbreakable version
not unless you already saved blobs for that version while they were still signed
even if you did save blobs
it’s not possible to downgrade the apple tv 4k
there are no ipsws
is my only option sideloading for emulators and such
pretty much yeah
you’ll probably need either a mac or a goldeneye cable to sideload on the atv4k
well there is another paid way but I need to check if the site we allow here supports it too
i think i know a service that does it, but its expensive and piracy focused
ill prob just use xcode and signer to sideload 1 or 2 apps
well, not much more expensive than the usual ones
there’s a crappy cheap $7 one (idk if they even support tvOS), then udidreg is $15, most are around $20 per device per year
So I’m trying to jailbreak my Apple TV with checkrain and I got this error -31 what should I do??
im trying to JB my apple tv but checkra1n is giving me error -31??
.
what are the best kodi add ons?
no news about cheyote for atv 
there wasn't odyssey or taurine either
last was chimera
and u0tv hasn't been updated since 13.4.5/13.4.8b1 either
checkra1n is our only savior
although that won't work on atv4k 2nd gen
don't even talk about watchOS
fugu15 maybe tho
i keep getting this error trying to install tvos on xcode does anyone know how to fix it?? "registering simulator runtime with coresimulator failed."
If I was to save the blobs for my 1st gen 4k, is there a way we can actually use them yet? I have a break out board I installed so have usb capability but not sure if I can update it through that?
@silk shadow
I've never tried but from what I've read I don't think it's possible.
Well that sucks




