#tvos-jailbreaks
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So did it update or no
ok lemme make this clear
i donāt know if it updated or not
thereās no reason it shouldāve
Check on the tv
due to the ota blocker
i wouldāve checked it but i donāt have access to it at the moment
If it did a normal update
it shouldnāt have
And u ran the cat command
The blob should still be there i think
then IF it updated
.
then itās not that bad
Need to jb ssh and check
the only other person
who uses it (that i gave permission to use it)
knows not to update it
if it ever so happened to prompt one
not on local
so therefore no reason it should say 18.0
yeah and thatās the problem
icloud reports everything correctly
so that means someone else was using my stuff without permission if it was ever updated
when i get access to the tv again weāll just have to see if it saved the 16.1 data properly
IF it updated
idk it was cat smth smth
i donāt feel like digging through dms to find the command
But i had to modify it bc the normal cat command wouldnt give a proper blob
It would fail when converting the raw file
The blob data has been recovered
Just not converted
Probably disk 2 from 1
Yea it was something i told u the other day
already been done
luckily enough; they didn't update so the command can be modified and re-run
Why are they saying they updated lol
They're unaware if it did
oh @outer spruce
I was going to ask
when you plug in DCSD to trigger DFU for the 4K..
how many blinks does it take until the apple tv trips?
or does it happen immediately?
immediately
really? so the moment you plug it in to a pc with goldeneye it just.. boom?
itās like as if you were to throw an iphone or ipad into dfu mode normally
yeah
interesting
is that not normally supposed to happen?
the breakout board DFU takes 12 blinks whilst holding down the button
in order to trip dfu
damn
which i don't mind
idk i dont find it too terrible to just use dongles
nothing cable management canāt fix
but my DCSD doesn't trip with the breakout board installed.. maybe it's the solder job
I'm currently teeter-tottering between a theory of having a bad cable.. or the Apple TV mod is getting in the way
until the dongle ends up bending the wrong way
interesting
does any documentation specify that it happens instantly?
or that it is supposed to immediately trip DFU
interestingly enough; no. I do wonder if all three lights light up? or are there certain lights during dfu?
i donāt wanna wait like an extra 5 weeks to get my cables to rejb due to a power outage so trust me when i say ima take great care of the dongles
no itās just all three always
idk how to explain it
when i get access and rejb the tv i can like film how it goes
Ah yes. That does explain it
I thought maybe the lights would blink or change to signify the process of DFU
are you able to trip DFU without rebooting? like can you just plug them in as-is and it goes instantly?
iām not entirely sure
should i test it?
(obviously when i have access)
no it just
kinda works
you plug it into a mac and it trips dfu
if you want. AFAIK, I'm going to make a document as to how this works with the Apple TV seeing as the applewiki has zero documents about it specifically.. including the Goldeneye pinout and voltages and how it works to DFU whilst splitting USB and ethernet
because the goldeneye doesn't just split the connection
for documentation purposes yeah im down to test it
i donāt have ways to measure pinout and voltages but i can test the dfu thing so at least not all is lost
oh no, I will
based
i have the goldeneye too
like while the atv is on?
and it's confirmed working because I have re-restored my 4k
nice
not that i NEEDED to, but I wanted to test the modded ipsw
which worked to install trollstore without an exploit 
and of course, permanently block the OTA with no vpn, profiles or anything like that needed
yes, I'm thinking that it's a possibility seeing as DFU can also be tripped on iOS while the device is on too
well then i might restore with a custom 18.0 ipsw for blocking ota
seeing as recent 18.1 betas break palera1n
i can try when i get the chance
very possible. But I am sad for those on 2nd gen tv's.. oh well, stop buying newer devices! Apple will kill our abilities to modify
it would be funny if i could use my ipad to rejb it
usb c
you actually can
i know
is it worth it? no
is it funny? yes
is it a waste of time and tedious? also yes
failure rate? yes!!
are you prone to tripping over more cables than you were when just the laptop was plugged in? Absolutely
funnily enough itās not more cables because i donāt have a laptop with a usb port
How do you not have a laptop with a port? literally every laptop has a port
oh, usb-c
so i had to use an adapter
I'm guessing macbook 2019?
yes!!!

(somebody kill me)
I wonder if someone has found a hardware mod to convert usb-c to usb-a without an adapter
usb-a to usb-c!!
modernize AppleInternal! (why does everything go back to lightning!)
because lightning makes too much money to change. Especially when manufacturers have to purchase a specific license to be considered 'MFI'
sigh
and to be recognized by billions of devices without the "this cable might not work.." message
is that actually part of iOS ?
the alert?
or was that like a whole
idk iām sleep deprived 
Oh yes, I've had my fair share of knock-offs going under complaint by iOS to ensure that it will not connect without said certificate embedded inside the hardware
interesting
which is why the cables are the same price as the cases and screen protectors
well i do find that kind of odd, maybe i just purchase the right cables because iāve never actually seen a message deliberately say ācable badā
9/10 it would either charge on and off or will fail to sync. Some cases, DFU would never prompt or during restore, the device would stay in recovery
iOS actually has a list of vendor ID's and manufacturer brand names that it runs down once the cable is plugged in
you'll notice this when you plug the phone to charge... it takes about 5-8 seconds for the charge to initiate
this is the action of iOS checking the authenticity of the cable
interesting
whereas android devices don't care.. hence why charging happens immediately after plugging in
but i do wonder is this with older devices that take a while to verify the authenticity because any cable iāve ever tried has always just immediately worked
one good way to check if a cable is authentic is with the forbidden tool
I believe that tool also has the extracted list from iOS that it also runs down to tell if it's MFI certified
My Apple TV is on tvOS 12.2.1 is there a way I can update to a certain tvOS or no?
crazy
you can, with blobs
If I donāt have them saved itās a no Iām guessing
you can save them.. what apple tv is it?
Apple TV HD 4th Generation
you have the ability to save 13.4.8, 10.2.2, 17.6.1 and 18.
you can also save your on-board blobs and get that 12.2.1 blob
Will probably do 13.4.8 how do I go about doing this.
download and install blobsaver
it'll automatically save all the blobs mentioned above
Is there a guide for going about this?
plug apple tv in to computer with usb-c
click "read device"
click "start"
profit
This the one?
yes
How do I restore from blobs? My bad for all the questions. Was looking it up and not really finding anything
at least jailbreak your 12 first and dump that blob
Alright thanks for the info!
Checkra1n or unc0ver? Which is better in your opinion
Did palera1n for Apple TV released?
Still on 14.4 with checkra1n on 4k gen 1 š„²
could anyone help me with this?
Checkra1n
You don't need palera1n
What do you need help with?
Checkra1n working?
Only for the version you're currently on
If you update, palera1n won't work well
so supposedly iāve manage to save my blobs, but now the future restore gui throws me an error
pro tip: don't use the gui
but what binary should i use?
is it mac or windows?
mac
and what are you trying to do?
cause it says that v194 is deprecated
you're on the right track, just don't use baseband
i have an apple tv HD in 14.2 and i want to update to 17.6 using delayota, but given that I used jailbreak from checkra1n iām not able to update son iām triying to reinstall 14.2 through future restore cause installing the firmware ipsw will fix the update error and allow me to do the delayota thing
whatās that?
why? just go to 17.6.1
i want to keep it on 17.6 or 17.5.1 to use palera1n
why?
because palera1ns broken
iāve seen it working
like what you could do... is delayota.. save the blob
it has issues
ohhh what issues?
where you need to restore root fs the device in order to get the jailbreak to work again
what do you mean
meaning you can use delayota to update to 17.6, then save on-board blob
mmm i donāt know how to do that š
we do.
but again, the process is tedious
what tvOS are you currently on?
14.2
that's a good firmware
and i want to update to 17 to use tailscale exit node thing
i'd save the on-board blob for that
i supposedly have it
if you give me the blob, i can verify it
but iād like to reinstall 14.2 to be able to update and save 17.6 blobs
ok
`BuildNumber : 18K57
BuildTrain : ArcherB
DeviceClass : j42dap
FDRSupport : YES
MobileDeviceMinVersion : 1253
RecoveryVariant : Recovery Customer Install
RestoreBehavior : Update
Variant : Customer Upgrade Install (IPSW)
[IMG4TOOL] APTicket is GOOD!
[IMG4TOOL] SHSH2 contains generator 0x871fb3c28d7d469f which is GOOD for nonce in IM4M!
`
how i donāt use baseband? itās a check or what?
so itās ok?
the apple tv doesn't have one, that's what the gui is complaining about
[IMG4TOOL] APTicket is GOOD!
ok so i could skip it in the gui? or use te binary?
I'd use the binary
what would be the binary command? i just need to specify the shsh, ipsw and version am i right?
thatās the one iām using, but i downloaded from archive.org cause the link is down
the binary command would be futurerestore -u -t blob.shsh2 --latest-sep --latest-baseband ipsw.ipsw --no-baseband
the link isn't down
oh wait, it is
Got ApNonce from device: dc bd 18 43 89 dc ee 57 39 79 13 c4 84 ca a9 e2 91 37 71 7d
Cleaning up...
[exception]:
what=Device ApNonce does not match APTicket nonce
code=63897668
line=975
file=/Users/runner/work/futurerestore/futurerestore/src/futurerestore.cpp
commit count=308
commit sha =9554c0068dc50e141872ced5da2bd95baa595805
Done: restoring failed!
yes, you can set it within checkra1n
or.. you can use pwndfu
i find it easier with checkra1n though
ive done it with trollstore from your repo
this has nothing to do with trollstore
trollnonce will not work
once you're jailbroken, you'll need to SSH in
then you'd type nvram com.apple.System.boot-nonce={Generator Code OF Blob)
make sure the generator code is the code inside the blob
did you save the blob for 17.6.1?
would be a good idea to do that
you can with blobsaver
what?? you can go to 17.5.1??
cool
thatās what iām trying to do hahaha
it's great, for just development
is this valid?
9/10 if it's saved by the blob saver, yes
[IMG4TOOL] IM4M is valid for the given BuildManifest for the following restore:
BuildNumber : 21M80
BuildTrain : StarlightG
DeviceClass : j42dap
FDRSupport : YES
MobileDeviceMinVersion : 1600
RecoveryVariant : Recovery Customer Install
RestoreBehavior : Erase
Variant : Customer Erase Install (IPSW)
[IMG4TOOL] APTicket is GOOD!
[IMG4TOOL] SHSH2 contains generator 0x1111111111111111 which is GOOD for nonce in IM4M!```
iām facing the same error again
Salon:~ root# nvram com.apple.System.boot-nonce=871fb3c28d7d469f
what did you type in for the command in ssh?
Product version: 14.2
Product build: 18K57 Major: 18
Device supports Image4: true
Got ApNonce from device: 06 3d fe 7d de a2 23 40 8f 8c 92 c9 27 e5 c3 bc 4d c4 15 dd
Cleaning up...
[exception]:
what=Device ApNonce does not match APTicket nonce
code=63897668
line=975
file=/Users/runner/work/futurerestore/futurerestore/src/futurerestore.cpp
commit count=308
commit sha =9554c0068dc50e141872ced5da2bd95baa595805
Done: restoring failed!
needs to be 0x
shit
nvram com.apple.System.boot-nonce=0x871fb3c28d7d469f
sorry for being so dumb
what you should do is nvram -d com.apple.System.boot-nonce=871fb3c28d7d469f
first
then the command above
this one with 0x ?
or not?
with
THANK YOU, YOU ARE A GENIUS
working?
christ, your screens more cluttered than apple's security team when checkra1n launched
macbook screen? i know, i love to be tidy but this was just critical
iām devastated hahahhaa
let's take a moment to admire the laptop-hotfix-whilst-taking-iphone-photo moment
HAHAHAHHAA
although, you're just re-restoring.. i don't know why
seeing as you're already on 14.2
tried so many things
but why re-restore? unless the OS is corrupt?
btw, letās say i update to tvos 17.6.1 or 18, how could i downgrade to 14.2 if it doesnāt allow jailbreak
when i install checkra1n even after removing it, it doesnāt allow me to update to new versions of tvos
is a big many people experiment
did you use unc0verTV?
at one point
no, i donāt think so
the reason why updates don't work.. and I'm assuming you did the OTA
was because checkra1n was still installed
i removed it with the checkra1n built in app
how am i supposed to do it?
that's not good enough, you would need to do the removal of the jailbreak, then use reset all contents and settings after
done it too
because the OTA has check proceedings where it double checks to make sure
whatās the removal of the jailbreak you refer to?
the best removal method is just to use futurerestore without the -u
this?
without the -u
because -u is update
which saves jailbreak files
ohhh
so i should have done it without the -u then
probably update process will fail again then
I use -u to keep everything in place and test out new versions of jailbreaks
then it's the same command just without -u
and then do the delayota
ok thanks
btw, letās say i update to tvos 17.6.1 or 18, how could i downgrade to 14.2 if it doesnāt allow jailbreak
You can set the nonce without a jailbreak
how on apple tv?
It's not easy but very possible
I have an app that should work called Ramiel
it's on my github
mind you; it hasn't been updated yet, but should still work nonetheless
ok iāll try it in the future
about palera1n? is it that hard to maintain that jailbreak?
it gets difficult when Apple keeps updating security
i mean to use it, in 17.5.1
yeah, to use it is a fickle
so whatās the best tvos version and jailbreak for apple tv then?
it says it doesnāt allow to restore
I'm assuming you delay OTA-ed, then saved the blob?
mmm
i was on 14.2
that I installed ages ago
I saved the blob with the delay itās profile installed
it's because you're using it to factory restore instead of update which is what that blob is signed for
is it what you mean
how can i get a restore blob?
you don't. Not when you used OTA
but good thing is, you can just use -u
reset all contents and settings
that's a literal restore
iāve already tried, but iāll do it again
remove checkra1n and the reset? anithing else?
i didnāt know what that means
what is your goal?
be able to delayota to 17.5.1
but apple tv fails to update
and i need to restore from ipsw to fix it
you do realize you need to supervise the apple tv and apply the profile?
it is
then what's the error?
unless future restore have deleted that
it start to updates
itās a two step process
crash - reboot - throws an error when step 2 is about to start
what can i do?
are you running checkra1n at all?
thatās the error i get after step 1
how?
then try the ota whilst supervised and the profile installed
i canāt without the -u flag
you can use ramiel to set nonce
you can also downgrade to 13.4.8
iām not running checkra1n right now
no, from 13.4.8 to 17.5.1
te ha i know
but i could update to 14.2 then with future restore right?
so you mean installing apple signed 13.4.8
and then delayota to 17.5.1?
yes, only to update
yes
so sounds ok
iām gonna try
can i go from 17.5.1 to 14.2 with futurerestore right?
uhh, not quite
you'd have to go to 13.4.8 first
yeah, thatās what i was thinking
but itās ok, no problem with that
hope 13.4.8 to 17.5.1 works
reason being: downgrading the SEP on an update will error and fail
btw THANKYOU FOR ALL YOUR HELP
and that 14.2 blob is only for updating
yeah
for future times
how can i save recovery blobs?
there's no such 'recovery' blobs
you can save blobs locally to recover them
perhaps OneDrive
restore*
Restore blobs are only obtainable via blobsaver when the numbers are signed
you need the BuildManifest
thatās on the ipsw right?
and then?
for HD 14.2: pzb -g BuildManifest.plist https://updates.cdn-apple.com/2020FallFCS/fullrestores/001-19905/DBD18749-514B-48F0-B5A3-EC4DD4E5E7CC/AppleTV5,3_14.2_18K57_Restore.ipsw
for other versions, just change the URL
then you can mv ./BuildManifest.plist ~/Desktop/BuildManifest(whatever_Version).plist
which will allow you to sort based on differentiation
I could make a script to verify quickly
keeps failing, iām trying with 17.6
now
this is of 17.5.1
Hey, Iām currently attempting to jailbreak my appleTV 4K running 17.4 and I got palera1n installed on my Mac
How do I connect to the Apple TV that doesnāt have a usb-c port? Do I buy some form of Ethernet adapter so that I can connect the two?
What cable can use to downgrade an Apple TV 4gen ?
what apple tv 4k is it?
yes, it's called goldeneye and dcsd
is it the HD? if so, usb-c to usb-a
17.6.1 got unsigned like 30 mins ago
Shoulda just updated normally to that via pc
yeah, but i wanted a palera1n capable version
Works on that
anyway, i donāt know why my apple tv is not capable of being updated
iāve tried everything
restored from ipsw from pc
Just do via pc
but then i try to update and it fails
yeah but i wanna do delayota
to get 17.5.1
does any of you know what could be happening?
cause it fails when is about to enter the step 2 of updating
the bar doesnāt got to reach the end
it just throws an error saying apple tv couldnāt be updated
hope i would have known that a few hours ago š¦
Palerain was working up to tvos 18 lol
U could still update to latest
And palerain still works
Always have that 14.x blob in case u dont like
I update my atvs thru pc. I Dont do that method so idk
iām updating to 17.6.1 cause i have blobs for that version, but probably it would be better to just update to tvos18? right?
the only thing that scares me is that to install 17.6.1 i needed to install checkra1n and i donāt no how to restore al delete checkra1n on 17.6.1, do you know how?
Not sure, bought it from appples website a few days ago
Look at the bottom for the model number
A2843
Can't jb that
There would.. Had apple made a usb port
there would? people actually care that much about tvos?
Apple does everything in their power to stop jailbreaks, including accessibility to downgrading
Apple got rid of the hidden lightning port on those newer models
makes it virtually impossible to install via hardwire unless you sideload an app
Wouldnāt it be possible to solder a connector
solder a connector to what? there's no port
Ohhhh
that was the basis behind the first gen 4k, it has said lightning port that one could solder if the cables were unavailable at the time
I mean, it is certainly possible if one were to not update their apple tv.. the same exploits for ios can be used in tandem for apple tv
the main question is: is it worth it?
afaik, most folks are just using apple tv jailbreaks to pirate
which is primarily why apple put restrictions in the AppStore for higher versions
and jailbreak detection
seeing as there's no actual user data on the apple tv
which eliminates the theory of the 'security' aspect unlike ios that's stupidly locked down
I found out my DCSD cable is defective
It does purple mode and serial shell, but won't trip my 4K in DFU
Yeah, luckily though I can return it and get another cable
And also, I can DFU via solder 
iām not confident enough to solder š„š„
Soldering is easy if you get the right tools.. Especially one iron with temperature control
Doing the single DFU point on the board was simple. What made it complicated was connecting the remaining individual points for usb data +/- and usb stability
idk repairing and soldering are two diff things and i can only do the first thing without messing up
too dumb to do this 
This is the DFU point:
Just one single wire
The wire is set to send 2 volts of electricity to that point on the apple tv logic board which then, sends the apple tv to hardware update mode
This all happens by holding down a button as the device powers on
interesting
how long did it take to get your dcsd from the moment you paid?
I bought both a DCSD and a GoldenEye adapter on ebay and they took like 3 weeks to arrive
they do work at least although my DCSD cable only seems to kick the TV 4K into DFU in one direction than both
like 2-3 weeks
looks like latest homepod version bricks homepod minis lmao
i wonder what happens if they actually brick ATV4Ks
free replacement hopefully lmao
Yup, I love apples logic of "Please, update!" But if something goes wrong with the update "here's a new device"
This shouldn't be a thing. I am grateful that they're replacing the device but wouldn't it be more economically viable from a higher up company to at least allow the users to fix their own devices?
I do however wonder what Apple does to remedy said bricked devices? Do they restore them and resell as refurbished or is it recycled or are the chips taken out but the other parts placed in other devices?
Does the back of your DCSD say "ALEX"?
yes iirc
Yeah, mine says HWTE
Which I'm thinking it is a form of the ALEX cable but the knockoff version
No wonder DFU didn't work
tragic
mine says HWTE and does kick into DFU
Interesting.. Maybe mine was DOA or a knockoff to a knockoff
This is some jailbreak inception shenanigans
it gets unusually warm while connected though
Mine just lights up
it only works on that Apple TV though
it didn't kick my SE 3rd gen into DFU (although I have no idea if it's meant to work there)
it does charge it
ouch
I had to discover mine is proper dead
iBEC always takes too long and I have no idea if the board is damaged
at least I couldn't see anything obvious
I dunno how possible it is to actually kill the storage on an Apple TV though
That might work during a power cycle
Like.. The nand?
it's my only guess yeah
the processor seems to work and video output is fine too
I doubt even sending anything iBoot related would work if the RAM was damaged so I assume something about its NAND is damaged
it always fails when it gets to booting iBEC
after sending it takes like a full minute to show any image and then fails APTicket/APNonce stuff
I got it damaged and it looked unopened so god knows what happened to it
I don't know where to even start with diagnosing this
You can easily kill it by just injecting too much voltage
Without taking it apart though, checkm8 can brick it
damn
if you have an apple tv, tvOS 17.2 is still signed
I did try 17.2 and 18.0
both failed
17.2 made it to iBEC and 18.0 lacks dumped keys I think
i have the keys
they weren't on the apple wiki I think
I dunno if that's where futurerestore gets its key JSON files from though
it does, did you save your blobs?
I never figured out how to get them off the device but I do have ones downloaded for 17.2 and 18.0
I've never seen this one function
tsschecker -d AppleTV6,2 -e {Devices ECID] -o -i [TVOS VERSION] -s --save-path /path/to/save/blob.shsh2 --boardconfig J105aAP --no-baseband --build-manifest /location/of/tvOS/BuildManifest.plist
yes I did this
you'll just need to provide the buildmanifest from the otas
yes
then I use -Z with the build ID
off the device, as in on-board?
yeah
cat /dev/rdisk1 | dd of=dump.raw bs=256 count=$((0x4000))
hi - repost from main jailbreak channel:
I recently got a Apple TV A2737 model - it has no USB, has WiFi and I've successfully sideloaded only 1 app on it - Misaka 5.3 (but this crashes upon running).
My question is - given the recent palera1n update a few days ago - is there a way to jailbreak my model? (I also have a macOS which is now paired with the Apple TV) or am I stuck with sideloading? (which also doesn't completely work)
In reality I would only like to get KODI up and running on the Apple TV or uYou+ and a web browser then I'd be a happy chappy but if it needs to be jailbroken - I am open to this too.
If anyone can assist in any way, shape or form - I would be really greatful.
Thank you š«”
Say I can to help for apple web with my jb?
There's no way to jailbreak your apple tv
What tvOS is it on?
Huh?
tvOS 18.0
And thank you - you saved me a monumental headache
Enjoy stock. Why you installed misaka is beyond me when it doesn't work for that.
I was more of a beginner yesterday than I am today
I.e. wasn't sure what I was doing š
Can you recommend any other methods e.g. sideloading kodi on there if possible
Sideloading is all you have
I see
Thank you š for your help - really appreciate it
I'm finding the common issue is: Old apple tv 4k: need cables to jailbreak - don't want to spend money/bricked - need to buy another
new apple tv: can't jailbreak it, cables don't work.. gotta sideload
Hi! I've finally jailbroken my AppleTV HD on tvOS 17.6.1 thanks to @ionic copper and @heavy patrol. Im really thankful for that š
By the way, does anyone knows how to install TrollAppsTV? and what repos to add to PurePkg or repos for TrollStore ipas? I've done a bit of a research but i didn't found anything interesting
It's on my repo
TrollStore won't work and trollapps are only for iOS
so cannot use trollstore? on that version?
it looks like they released a TV compatible one, but. it sure if it is available
Where?
whereās thereās no ipa but they talk about it on twitter and they have the repo so i supposed it was in the base IOS ipa
Nah
btw, cannot ssh into the appletv, pass isnāt alpine anymore?
You can, just log in to mobile
Because tis rootless
thanks
the best way to install ipa files? on tvos 14 I occasionally used appinst
is there any better way?
some like games, kodi...
i do know how to install .deb apps (I assume its with the dpkg -i ...) but i dont know how to install .ipa files (i used to use appinst cli on tvOS 14)
I'm on 17.6.1? does trollstore works?
You can use TrollStore to install ipas
sorry i missundertand this message
i thought it wont work on that os version
the method to install apps does
just not persisting
ohhh yeahh so only while jailbroken
and about that rootfs thing you told me some days ago... if the apple tv restarts do i need to do anything or just re-jailbreak?
If it restarts, restore root fs
how? hahaha
palera1n --force-revert --cli
great, thanks
Apple TV upgraded to ios18 last night without me knowing - luckily I have a older apple tv hd and it palrine worked 
there is a tvos version of trollstore but its trollstore lite.
Not good enough
Hi all, about to install TrollStore on my first gen AppleTV 4k running tvos 16.3, anything to keep in mind while following the instructions?
does palera1n work on ATV HD on 18.0?
it should
No reason it shouldn't, but remember...
my HD isn't on 18 yet
don't update
18 on a device that has tvos 9 capabilities is a mistake
Alright, other than that it should be smooth sailing yeah?
not quite; 16.3 won't install trollstore normally
The guide mentions dev mode, is that a hassle?
there is no dev mode on apple tv
Could you perhaps give me a bit more relevant steps please? š
well the method to install it would be KFD but it doesn't work on 16.3
So am I left with jailbreak first and then trollstore?
yes.
I could swear the GitHub said up to 16.6 is supported
Btw which version of tvos doesn't require jailbreak?
it is, but the function for tvos doesn't work
Can I jailbreak a Apple TV first gen 4K?
yes, u can use https://github.com/palera1n/palera1n
I canāt seem to get futurerestore to work properly, I saved blobs using Blob Saver. The other blobs I have for other devices work so I think the blobs are valid.
When I try to start it initially I was getting an exception APTicket canāt be used with this restore, I tried it with 2 versions and both of them gave me the same error (version match blobs). I was also getting a IM4M signature is not valid.
I tried another copy of FutureRestore and segmentation fault with my options listed.
Iām trying to futurerestore an Apple TV 4 HD. From 14.6 to 17.0 (16.6 if it canāt be done, since I just want to be able to use Troll Store)
you can restore anywhere from 13.4 to 18
as long as you have the proper blobs for the proper device
also, what configuration did you use for the blob saver?
you can.. save 17.2 blobs as of right now. If you give me you ECID, I can save it
I have blob saver automatically saving blobs, it checks it weekly and downloads them to my computer
The problem is Iām trying to restore to 17.0 so I can use updated apps and use trollstore
But for some reason futurerestore keeps spitting out an error that I canāt use the blobs I saved with the restore file
Is there a specific compiled version that someone has used to successfully futurerestore with?
If someone has one I can try then I can verify if my blobs are valid or not or if it was just the copy of FR I was trying to use.
whitout a cable
?
Yeah would also like to know how to do it without a cable
I can verify them
Cable is required unless you have breakout board
How Can i jailbreak my Apple TV 4K whitout a cable
What is the benefit to jailbreaking Apple TV
you don't
indeed
You Can Play Fortnite
Golden Eyecable ?
You need the cables to jailbreak
If Iām not mistaken it was some kind of hidden weird port in the Ethernet port right?
Can you sent me The Amazon links
see pinned comments
it's the third or fourth message
Damn for the price of the cables alone I could buy apple TV hd instead
yep
I bought a 4K š
Thankfully I only bought my 4k apple TV for 5e š
Why would someone need 9x Siri Remotes without having 9x Apple TVs all without remotes
9 bricked ATVs :)
Is there a a10 hd Apple TV ?
Stupid investment
No
Why?
because you need to invest another 80 bucks to jailbreak it
also, is this 4k even the first gen?
how do you know?
The Remote
the remote doesn't mean anything
And Its relly cheap
Should I just DM you?
Well more of I thought it might clutter the group but ok
you're just verifying one file?
2
that's fine
16.6: ``[IMG4TOOL] IM4M signature is verified by TssAuthority
[IMG4TOOL] IM4M is valid for the given BuildManifest for the following restore:
BuildNumber : 20M73
BuildTrain : ParisG
DeviceClass : j42dap
FDRSupport : YES
MobileDeviceMinVersion : 1400
RecoveryVariant : Recovery Customer Install
RestoreBehavior : Erase
Variant : Customer Erase Install (IPSW)
[IMG4TOOL] APTicket is GOOD!
[IMG4TOOL] SHSH2 contains generator 0x1111111111111111 which is GOOD for nonce in IM4M!``
17.0: ``[IMG4TOOL] IM4M signature is verified by TssAuthority
[IMG4TOOL] IM4M is valid for the given BuildManifest for the following restore:
BuildNumber : 21J354
BuildTrain : Starlight
DeviceClass : j42dap
FDRSupport : YES
MobileDeviceMinVersion : 1600
RecoveryVariant : Recovery Customer Install
RestoreBehavior : Erase
Variant : Customer Erase Install (IPSW)
[IMG4TOOL] APTicket is GOOD!
[IMG4TOOL] SHSH2 contains generator 0x1111111111111111 which is GOOD for nonce in IM4M!``
they are, but here's the thing: you cannot upgrade, only erase
ah that might be it then
which isn't bad... you just lose your apps and settings
didn't know there were 2 separate ones for upgrading erasing...
ota blobs can update
which is on-board
or using the apple tv 4K
but blob saver doesn't save ota blobs as effeciently
I think it's too late, but a blob is a blob
at least apple tv has no user data
sorta does, I'm logged into someone else's account as well for Apple TV sub haha
hmm ok i'' look up how to pull onboard blobs to see if i can update to 17.0
unfortunately 1conan's tssaver has 2 files but they are 0 bytes
are you currently on 17.0?
yes
you can still get to 17
you just start fresh
ah alright
oh well
I guess after I install 17 I should pull blobs again so I can use update in the future?
you could but then again, it wouldn't make sense
well first things first is I'll be updating to 17.0
to at least use trollstore
hmm ok, so I think my copy of futurerestore is not working with the ATV... I keep getting:
IM4M signature is not valid!
Cleaning up...
[exception]:
what=APTicket can't be used for this restore
so 2 questions
1 what version of futurerestore are you using?
and 2 what commands are you using?
-t --no-baseband --latest-sep
nightly off the github action, that said "no update check"
what's the version?
v2.0.0(e7abce113e1b98e126eff0e77fa3a002b99a195a-332)
you're using a fork
add --latest-baseband
latest baseband? but there's no baseband on apple tv right?
also is this not the proper github? futurerestore/futurerestore/
so where should i get the proper version?
nevermind, it's correct
can i get the full log?
that's why
I know the adapter works, because I used it with lightning-USB-A and futurerestore worked
should I use C-to-C?
no, use another computer
I did by SSH with checkra1n
then disabled auto-renew just in case I had to keep restarting the thing (which I have)
were you using -u before?
before yes but not the last try
I got the same error
using the macbook air
with --latest-baseband setting I get:
[Error] futurerestore: failed with exception:
[exception]:
what=Could not get BasebandFirmware path
add --no-baseband
with latest on both
the im4m doesn't match error?
You could.. Do a pwned restore..
[IMG4TOOL] failed to verify IM4M signature with error:
[exception]:
what=assure failed
code=12910610
line=197
file=ASN1DERElement.cpp
commit count=202
commit sha =e1c37d6ce8c629ca9669efc9cb5b5f7d6810ed30
IM4M signature is not valid!
Cleaning up...
[exception]:
what=APTicket can't be used for this restore
Strings used: --no-baseband --latest-sep --use-pwndfu
You need to use gaster
Then --skip-blob
Gaster pwn
Gaster reset
nevermind, restoring
?
I was going to ask your help with futurerestore, but I got it restoring. although it is failing once restore is done
am trying it again
do you mind if I DM you about it?
is there a specific build of futurerestore for A10?
I don't mind, go for it
what did you do different?
unless you just kept doing it like trying to convince a toddler to eat their veggies until they buckled down
I didnāt do no-blobs when I did pwndfu last time so I added that, basically this latest sep, no base and, pwndfu and no blobs as options
Now I need to figure outbhow to install troll store⦠but looking at everything I might need to pull on board blobs so I can use upgrade
Then downgrade and upgrade backā¦
You can just view the pins that are posted here on how to do that
Any apps released that may be worth using?
yeah that's what I was looking at. but I think now I need to figure out how to pull the on board blobs. If I do that I can use them to do Upgrade rigth? since my current blobs only allow me to erase install.
darn thought i might be able to us method 2 without going through futurerestore agan... but maybe not
Sideloadly
it wont show up
macos
over wifi
have i to somepfing whit xcode?
@ionic copper may be able to help
comand line no Blobs Appletv4 futurerestore thanks
i'm not that experiances with apple tvs
AppleTv 4 hd in pwndfu futurerestore no blobs command thanks
With?
AppleTV not showing up in Sideloadly
Get xcode, pair the Apple TV, use the pair code with sideloady, profit
no blobs 17.0 tvhd 4 I am with pwndfu in fiƱuturerestore thanks
Hi, I was wondering what the state of tvOS shenanigans is atm, specifically for tvOS 16.6, on a 4th gen Apple TV. Reason being, Iāve seen what has happened on iOS 16 with trollstore, misaka (tho not a fan tbh), KFD exploit based apps, etc.
So I was wondering if I could install Trollstore on my Apple TV, jailbreak it perhaps (though with what Iāve heard about pailra1n Iām not sure I will), and perhaps something else if Iām missing it
Palera1n can jailbreak it
And you can install TrollStore from my repo
You happen to have it on hand? Asking as Iām on mobile, if you donāt no worries Iāll just Google it later when Iām on my desktop
Check the pins
Thanks Zenzeq :)
Can i sideload iPhone Apps to it?
Take a wild guess what answer I'm going to give
maybe

Only whit trollstore ?
If the Apple TV was converted in to an iPhone then yes, you could use iOS ipa's
Whats whit The Minecraft Apple TV edition
@ionic copper
Is this a normal minecraft ipa or the one for the appletv version
for the apple tv
Since when does Minecraft for the Apple TV exist 
Nope
When it down exist in the first place?
Okay, where did you get it from?
- Bought the game
How? It hasn't been on the store in years
On my dead Apple TV 4?
Don't know how it died if you were able to jailbreak it
It was around iOS 8-10 idk
You're making less sense but okay
I canāt download it in the store anymore
Exactly my point
Okay?
I want to sideloud it
You can do that with the cables
They come in 14 days i live in Germany Bro
Okay, what's the hurry?
So I want to try and use the SSHRD method to install trollstore but following the guide on Reddit what should I use instead of Tips since there is no tips app
And is this guide ok to follow? https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/s/IDVkSZ72dR
The guide is literally in the pins
Sorry I donāt see the guide for method 2 just states that sshrd should workā¦
? Method 2 installs it via sshrd
You just use SSHRD then follow the rest in method 1
Can you install persistence helper if you jailbreak first?
you can but you can do it on sshrd too
Kinda need and ELI5 guide because Iām so confused reading it
But jailbreak with palera1n, add repo install trollhelper seems much more straightforward
But I need to se what options are available for persistence helper through trollstore
why? the guide here tells you how to use it
sshrd.sh (link to hd ipsw) 15.5
sshrd.sh boot
then just transfer persistence helper
I donāt see this guide itās not in the pins
I meant the sshrd commands, the message you sent just now is the first seeing that command thatās why I couldnāt figure it out
but this is for misaka.. you'd install it in /Applications/whateverapp.app
the commands are on the github
So I gather I should install any app first from the store that I donāt plan to use?
sure
hmm I get an error when launching SSHRD
I ended up just doing ./sshrd 17.0 as the command
ownload succeeded
usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
usb_timeout: 5
usb_abort_timeout_min: 0
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
CPID: 0x7000
Found the USB handle.
Now you can boot untrusted images.
[IOKit] Waiting for the USB handle with VID: 0x5AC, PID: 0x1227
Found the USB handle.
Version: 26bee8a5fe80f874a590b776da450cac62c01328-26
main: Starting...
iOS 17 iBoot detected!
getting get_sigcheck_patch() patch
main: Error doing patch_rsa_check()! (img4interposercallback couldn't find branch for ret2!)
[-] An error occurred
don't use ios 17
use 15.5
I just got in with 17.5
and then it just restarted on me
ah nevermind it panicked
I'll try 15.5
ok so it looks like it went through, but it's now just flashing the light in the front, and nothing on the screen
apple configurator doesn't show it either
when I run "find / -name airbnb" I get an error
localhost:~ root# find / -name airbnb
find: /mnt2/mobile/Library/Caches/com.apple.amsengagementd.classicdatavault: Operation not permitted
find: /mnt2/mobile/Library/com.apple.nsurlsessiond: Operation not permitted
find: /mnt2/mobile/Library/com.apple.internal.ck: Operation not permitted
find: /mnt2/mobile/Library/CoreDuet/Knowledge: Operation not permitted
yeah I can't see where the apps are located, I've also used Cyberduck to view the mounted folders but I don't see anything
It wouldn't be airbnb
Just go to Applications and overwrite fitness.app
I thought I could overwrite any downloaded/sideloaded app
So do I rename persistence helper to bundle.app and replace the folder?
There is no such game for it
No, you rename it to the executable inside the bundle
is there a ipa installer for tvOS?
Sideloadly, TrollStore if your device is supported, AltServer, and Tanarasign.
So i got another dcsd cable.. says "ALEX" on it, but still no DFU
either the cable is borked or the 4k is.. dunno
dunno
mines working 
I think ALEX is some apple internal thing
Sounds familier, i saw it somewhere
Update: I'm wrong, ALEX is just the "code name" if you will for the DCSD cable. https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/DCSD_Cable
The DCSD Alex cable is used in factories to communicate over serial to run tests and write to the SysCfg (for serial definitions, etc) during production. These cables are produced by ShenZhen Alex Connector Co., Ltd. in China. They can be purchased from obscure markets. There are two known types of DCSD cable. An older one, with lights and only ...
I am curious; do the dcsd lights change when dfu ensues?
sure
I'm not surprised, but it seems there's countless remakes out there
ive got tvOS 13. Also is there not a way to get like ideviceinstaller deb package
I really can't seem to do this....
Used command in terminal:
scp -P 44 /Users/qong2/Downloads/TrollstoreTV/Podcasts root@localhosts/mnt1/Applications/Podcasts.app/Podcasts
ssh: Could not resolve hostname localhosts: nodename nor servname provided, or not known
lost connection
tried with -P44, turned on "iproxy 2222 22"
then tried with -P 2222
tried using localhosts:2222
always not found
I tried mounting filesystem, logging in with Cyberduck, and overwriting the file there
when I restart the ATv it just goes back to the regular podcast app
You don't use p44 if you're using port 22
You need to make 2 terminal windows
One is iproxy 2233 44
The second, use Ssh to port 44
If that doesn't work, change iproxy to port 22
Then ssh to port 22
mount filesystems first?
You can't mount filesystem unless you ssh first
i use ./sshrd.sh ssh
and it brings up a root terminal
but I can't copy things from the computer there
Just use boot
ssh -p 44 localhost
ssh: connect to host localhost port 44: Connection refused
so far only boot
and then iproxy 2233 44
now trying ssh but not connecting
If 44 doesn't work, 22 will
so run iproxy 2222 22 ?
No
ssh -p 22 localhost
ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
You use sshrd to boot
I did
what's my server ip?
Localhost
I'm connected by USB
ssh -p 22 localhost
ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
ssh -p 22 root@localhost
ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
iproxy 2233 22
Creating listening port 2233 for device port 22
waiting for connection
Unplug usb, replug
ok
If iproxy says nothing and yet ssh refuses, means usb isn't connecting
Because for ssh to refuse, iproxy would be going off with a connection attempt
I can connect to 2233 for 22
Okay, as long as you're in ssh
ssh -p 2233 root@localhost
The authenticity of host '[localhost]:2233 ([::1]:2233)' can't be established.
ECDSA key fingerprint is SHA256:lb9y8xaKPkXl5gUgA+WHH5TbDlRwWZ6Io7BBLbX+PuE.
This host key is known by the following other names/addresses:
~/.ssh/known_hosts:2: [localhost]:2222
~/.ssh/known_hosts:3: [127.0.0.1]:2222
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no/[fingerprint])?
Yes
New connection for 2233->22, fd = 5
waiting for connection
Requesting connecion to USB device handle 458 (serial: ramdisk tool Aug 14 2022 11:28:57), port 22
You have to type yes for that question
Okay and did it ask for a password?
So then you're in
now i"m in as localhost:~ root#
Then you mount filesystem
ok so "mount_filesystesm"
Yes
Then in a third terminal window, run the SCP command on port 22
find / -name podcasts.app
find: /mnt2/mobile/Library/Caches/com.apple.amsengagementd.classicdatavault: Operation not permitted
find: /mnt2/mobile/Library/com.apple.nsurlsessiond: Operation not permitted
find: /mnt2/mobile/Library/com.apple.internal.ck: Operation not permitted
find: /mnt2/mobile/Library/CoreDuet/Knowledge: Operation not permitted
You don't need to find it, it's in /Applications
Or mnt2 I think
Probably ls /mnt2/Applicatons
You'll find podcasts
p: root@localhost/mnt2/Applications/Podcasts.app/Podcasts: No such file or directory
cp: root@localhost/Applications/Podcasts.app/Podcasts: No such file or directory
scp -P 22 /Users/qong2/Downloads/TrollstoreTV/Podcasts root@localhost/Applications/Podcasts.app/Podcasts