#tvos-jailbreaks
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np
after u click on 420 what next when ur in linux
you have to set your bios to usb
I'm trying to reformat it it's saying the sub is write protected
I could screen share to u
@ionic copper
you could use rufus
download ed it
how do i reset everything in the drive @ionic copper
Also it's ubuntu...d64.iso
just run rufus in dd mode
just press enter to try
Just a black screen
give it time
This is the amd one
But whenever I try on the intel one ot doesn't recognise ubuntu at all
@ionic copper
odd
I have a samsung tablet if that could work
I have garuda on my amd system @ionic copper
Idk what to do
For the intel one it's a thinkpad
U press f12
And it shows u boot option
Imma try it on amd
@ionic copper
bruh
/path/to/palera1n is an example
you type in the literal path to it
okay so you got the command right
so press up arrow once
but delete the "chmod 0755"
Ok
and have it as sudo '/home/ubuntu/Downloads/palera1n-linux-arm64' -f
you didn't type what i put out
please read.
sudo '/home/ubuntu/Downloads/palera1n-linux-arm64' -f
please... read
What did I miss
you need a space between "sudo" and "/home"
I put a space
no you didn't
you downloaded the wrong palera1n
Ok
this is what you can use https://cdn.nickchan.lol/palera1n/c-rewrite/artifacts/main/420/binaries/palera1n-linux-x86_64
type sudo ls /home/ubuntu/Downloads/
okay so, type sudo cd /home/ubuntu/Downloads
then type sudo /home/ubuntu/Downloads/pale and then press tab
after that, press space bar
then -f
I press tab it doesnt do anything
okay so, type sudo cd /home/ubuntu/Downloads
please read
I guess you don't need sudo with cd
you can just cd
well, no, you got it
Ok
It did @ionic copper
now press space then -f
Then enter
screenshot before pressing enter
bruh..
What
okay, press enter
type this in..
sudo mv '/home/ubuntu/Downloads/palera1n-linux-x86_64' '/home/palera1n'
screenshot the result
Omg
look, BEFORE pressing enter, please please make sure you double check
your spelling etc
okay, so, type ls /home
okay, so it's there
sudo chmod 0755 /home/palera1n
and so now, you should be able to just do /home/palera1n -f
okay
What's next @ionic copper
you just hit start
okay, flashing slow or flashing fast?
take it out of dfu
what did you disconnect?
It doesnt say connected at all
bruh
you said "Iimm disconnect and reconnect"
WHAT did you disconnect/reconnect?
Nevermind we good
🙄
Entering recovery mode
If it don't work on this Imma try the laptop
It's taking super long for the recovery mode
Still is
@ionic copper
Is that normal?
recovery mode takes a few seconds
if you experience issues, unplug the usb and replug
if still nothing, redo the process
Is still loading
but i can guarantee that this whole thing will be pointless since you're on AMD
ok?
Lenovo thinkpad
Ubuntu is on the usb
So it should be working
Issue might be here @ionic copper
To why it won't boot ubuntu
you can switch to legacy booting
I had to switch the usb to the main one
We got to redo everything again
@ionic copper
okay, just do it again then
the one that works is the link i sent you
no.. the palera1n link
This one
@ionic copper
did you even download it?
follow the instructions
It's not connecting
what did you press?
screenshot?
go to options
screenshot
place device in dfu mode
Menu and pause
yes
is apple tv connected to usb?
then connect it to usb
Still nothing @ionic copper
what apple tv is it?
What do you type in to palera1n?.. is it -f?
press control c
K
then type /home/palera1n -c -f
do it again
try that
That
you need spaces bruh
not really
not without blobs
It is not
I think that's a save file of it
But I had 2 apple TVs so I might be wrong @ionic copper
what do i do next help
that's 13.4.8
put your ATV in dfu, then hold Shift and click restore in itunes
select 13.4.8 ipsw
is it still jailbreakable @uneven wraith
yes
@ionic copper is 17.4 jailbreakable or not
What is the literal first thing it says to do there. Please tell us youve done that
I can't find anything on it anywhere
I checked reddit
this is driving me crazy
It is
Ok wth. My 4k is tripping.. or my tv is. Seems like every time hdr content tries to play it starts flickering and popping then just going to static snow and staying there. I have hdr off and match content. Any help?
Yah turned off hdr on my tv seems to have stopped it. Any setting on the atv to get hdr working and not doing that?
False alarm still going to static
But switching inputs back and forth fixes it… for a second
Might just be the damn hdmi cable
yes. download palera1n from the 420/binaries/ folder at https://cdn.nickchan.lol/palera1n/c-rewrite/artifacts/main/
Is it the same? Palerain
Whenever I connect it to the computer it palrain doesn't recognise it like it still says connect your iPhone / Apple TV @ionic copper
its not supported silly!
?
?
has it released or just upcoming 
maybe it aint released
How is 17.3 jailbreakable
Click options, then select untested versions
I did
What next
Click back, then start
You didn't click it
Ok
Still nothing
That command works just fine @sleek moss
Give me a sec
Ok
I don't
I'm sorry
Use /home/palera1n --cli -f
nitoTV works on 17.3, should also on 17.4
how did you make that work
going to tidy it up a bit...
every time I tried it crashes
and yes i resigned it
because some NSArray issue
it also tries to install elucubratus repo which is not the greatest idea in this case
the tui is kinda broken
don't use it for now
very broken.. using --cli -f
although, --cli is confusing, should've just left it at -c
there's a chance for that to be stripped away as a result
but it's not applicable for tvos
it's not confusing as long as someone is not aware of the other tool
Is “- f - - cli” the wrong command? Was about to update to 17.4 and use DXs tutorial.
Cool, place device in dfu
You hold it for 7 seconds
Release
If USB is connected, palera1n will see and things will happen
If not, try another usb port
You can always kick out of DFU, or power cycle
Does the atv light stay fast blinking and the tv screen go dark when you let go of play and menu
Or does nothing happen once it starts blinking and you let go
@ionic copper
Im asking you
Yeah it's blinking fast
Then palera1n should pick it up
If not, it's a USB issue
May want to install libusb too
sudo apt-get install libusb-1.0-0-dev
It identified it before
Are you using the official remote
What happens when u let go
Again….What happens when u let go
Can you answer that orrrrr
Bro video of you doing it
What is that
PC with mac that's non-virtualized
After all this
Imma restore the apple tv
@ionic copper @jaunty rune
Nothing working
Hell no
@sleek moss Wait so it doesnt turn on regularly?
Nothing shows up on the screen
It's still flashing
As originally
Palera1n is still waiting
How can I get it out that mode
Im talking without palera1n. Does the apple tv work normally?
Unplug the apple tv and plug it back in and it still flashes?
Unplug from power i mean
This is what shows up after unplugging
Plug it to palrain
Nothing still
@ionic copper
I'm on 17.4
@jaunty rune
What do I do
Take the pc out of the equation. When u unplug the apple tv from power and plug it back in. Without you touching the remote it shows that screen?
It's best to downgrade to 13.4.8
Why does that matter?
What’s NitoTV repo address? Successfully JB my HD on 17.4. Just added your repo and now looking to try to see if I can get NitoTV to work.
It won't.
I would need to doctor it up
Ok…bummer. Alright, I’m going to move on and update my 4K and try Palera1n. With that said, is there a way to downgrade a 4K to 13.4.8 with goldeneye/dcsd cable? I haven’t seen a ipsw for 4Ks.
There is but it's not meant to downgrade to jailbreak. It's meant to fix the device if/when it bootloops
Updating the 4K isn't worth it imho
I see. I was debating about updating my 4K. It’s on 13.4.8 and I use unc0ver. My other 4K is already on 14.4 so I can use most of the TV apps.
13.4.5?
My bad…yes 13.4.5.
What tweaks are even working on 17?
oi
i’m on 17.1 just bought 3rd gen apple tv 4k, can someone quickly fill me in on what’s possible and what’s not on it? thanks in advanced
Not a whole lot
Especially not your videopace
Absolutely nothing except sideloading
all good, thats no issue, already got xcode linked up so, what, Altserver?
would you have a good resource of tvOS .ipa files?
You can use sideloady too
which would you say is best, I've only used Altserver/Altstore for iOS
Kodi is the most popular
makes sense
Issue with kodi, people pirate
i have a NAS, not looking for apps, just a library of known working ipa files, as well as things to test, since I'm attempting to modify an application to run on tvOS, and just need a known way to sideload onto it
its 3rd gen so no USB-C, i've had to pair it of course, as im sure you know kwk
Curious on your thoughts on why HD is ok to update versus 4K? Is it because of the ability to downgrade and usb-c connectivity?
Because Apple got rid of the ipsws
It was a direct slap to us to stop downgrading
Then came removing the usb port altogether
Kodi and emulators. I’ve also found that close to half of my subscriptions and tv network apps are no longer compatible with 13.x-14.x, even when downgrading.
After that, adding SEP to the newer HD models
I do love how Apple likes to claim it's for security.. But there's not much security for a tv box with zero user data
Yeah…I’m hella surprised how they kept 13.4.5 signed for so long (knocks on wood).
Because it's a prerequisite to tvOS 15
According to the OTA manifest, you can't jump from 10.2 to 17 without going to 13 in-between
In order to transition the files
Awesome, thanks for your thoughts. I’ve got a couple more HDs to update so thank you. I’ll have to think more about updating my 4Ks now haha. Also, do you know what happened to JoshTV repo? He had a cool Zelda theme that was hoping to reinstall (if compatible with 14.4).
it's intentionally signed sort of
as far as we know JTV is dead
or they just decided to stop using all forms of social media abruptly
I figured lol was curious about anything else.
Oi does someone know why I’m not getting gigabit speeds with my 4k first gen? I’ve tried several cables (cat 5e and up) and speedtest maxes at a 100mbps
Is there a different process to ssh into HD on 17.4 with Palera1n? Worked through “remote host” warning, now getting UNIX authentication refused…nvm I have to use mobile versus root.
you have to log in via mobile, not root
from mobile, you can use sudo to use root privileges
which I find is dumb imho..
Yeah its not working for me either and I used both intel and amd
Always gets stuck on
Well, AMD is flat out garbage anyways
is there any workaround on this, currently using intel and no luck
same error
Only time will tell, maybe with 421?
Tried 420
Hopefully whoever compiled it wasn't high.. /s
Should I just downgrade to 13.4.8
My only reason is that troll store don't work on 13.4.8 I thi
Well, with an HD, you can go anywhere from the latest to 13.4 with blobs
TrollStore only works on 14 afaik to 17.0
17.4.8 works if u have palera1n
14.0b2 to 17.0 on all devices I think
Well, that doesn't make it persist, so, no, it doesn't.
Well yeh
It's great to install apps with
But the point is the bug
I'm sure there's a raspberry pi implementation that could subsequently boot it untethered in a sense
Just allow it to run via USB voltage from the TV usb port
Then connect output via usb-c
security for them
also i'm sure they'd love to remove the usb data from the iphone
wireless charge only or no data over usb if it's kept
Issue with removing usb from iPhone: people will complain more since folks hate wireless
Or having to subscribe to more cloud data
If I was apple, I'd get rid of the dug in port, but keep it with pins like the old apple watch
I hate wireless but my old mac won't often see the phone via usb
at one point it was connected to a usb2 hub and 12mbps
was wishing photos worked over wifi
That's the gimmick: you can have greatness.. If you pay for updated greatness that works with it
what like iclod photos?
Not exactly, but new features that require newer hardware to run them
Like buying new headphones that require an update
Or airtag locations that use the U chip for precise finding.. Need a new phone for that
im not even talking about that. this is just usb2 to lightning
I think it's hardware wearing out on the mac. it's a 2012 mbp after all
2012 can still run modern software
yours, no
seeing as you're on 17
@ionic copper btw there’s some debs that exists but are not referenced by the index in your repo
huh?
such as the appstore++
exist on github
not referenced by package file
I don't host appstore++
that's on nitoTV
Then what is com.cokepoles.tvappstoreplus_0.1-2_appletvos-arm64.deb
that's appstore++ on cokepoke's repo but it's also hosted on nitoTV's repo
it was compiled and uploaded to his github when nitoTV's servers went down
anyways you probably want to check what’s in your debs directory
hence why I also backed up the server and re-hosted the bootstrap
my repository manifest is fine
Yeah it’s probably fine
well the nitoTV repo cannot be used on palera1n since it’s a bootstrap repo
hence why I'm fixing it
i don’t think it’s a bootstrap problem
but it seems a tad redundant when this 'purepkg' thing is there already
there's literally one paid tweak.. and Kevin has access to it
no-one's going to pay for tweaks on tvOS
nControl doesn’t apply to our target versions
because it hasn't been updated in years
I think fixing nitoTV is also good
but it doesn't make sense to fix something that's closed source to have it break again when tvOS 18 comes out..
Does Doom work by any chance
all the dooms work fine
and quake
they're not jailbreak apps
what broke.. the doom games?
well for one, nitoTV was severely outdated. Since 14.8.. it wasn't updated.. so 3 years later, things changed
the one tweak that's essential that i need to fix that's absolutely broken is preferenceloader
without that tweak, you can't load any of the tweaks/settings manually
For PurePKG there’s some lag while scrolling through all packages in the search tab
or maybe that’s an A8 moment
yes because it hooks in to frontboard which uses like 80% CPU
same thing with snowboard
and misaka
preferenceloader causes TVSettings to crash
yes and i know why
i just have to recompile it and it'll work
interestingly enough; nitoTV hooks in to frontboard and headboard but that apps smooth as butter
@ionic copper how do you think safemode UI should work on tvOS
There’s no safemode UI in tvOS ellekit right now
the safe mode works, there’s merely no UI of any sort to get out of it
it does. It presents standard when you power cycle 5 times but as far as the safemode tweak, it's there
safemode for tvos doesn't have a ui like ios does, it just presents you with 3 options to reboot, reset or respring
usually when a tweak or something goes wrong, the apple tv just resprings with no affect
is ellekit even OSS?
I suppose it’s not a concern if there’s no way to bring up the options menu again after being in safe mode
Yes
as long as the palera1n loader stays on screen
the option could be triggered via CC if the user wishes, but as far as 'saving' the OS from corruption, it's not as critical as iOS/iPadOS imho
it's only a hazard if one disconnects power during an update
when connect 4K with dcsd+goldeneye to palera1n in normal mode (this can only be done when jailbroken already because USB), the process is very jank
the enter recovery will enter DFU, but then because auto-boot is false device goes into recovery while jailbreaking
Then restart palera1n and the process can go on as expected
However I do not have the 4K and is not able to fix any of that
The basic breakout and advanced breakout further complicate matters
in the DFU helper
not to mention the dcsd could have been a Tamarin as well
Afaik, the modern mishmash implementation of checkra1n (palera1n) heavily relies on I/O input which checkra1n didn't as much.. This further does complicate matters..
So expect to run into issues with Palera1n on 4K using GE/DCSD cable? Nearly updated my 4K to 17.5 since my HD on 17.5 successfully ran Palera1n.
Going over some of this, I suspect that UART works similarly to UART over Lightning on other devices (which requires an appropriate adapter). But it might be disabled and require demoting. And it sounds like the debug connector may have had JTAG on non-production HomePods, but components for that have been removed
Anyway, wish there was an audioOS/HomePod channel, hard to find the prior work done on this already
Making me nauseous having to scroll so far back and fourth to the context of that comment I made
Exactly 😕
Anyway, I'm kinda wondering why these HomePods are bricked, and whether instead of attempting to build an ipsw / restore them, it might be possible to use these tools to figure out where and why they get stuck
At the moment I only have a working OG HomePod and don't want to mess it up, though 😄
They get stuck because Apples security corrupted during file transition and since they've locked away their firmware, it makes it that much more challenging..
(I do have several iPhones with the same SoC that I can play with though)
do you mean when applying patches during an OTA update?
Well partially. The update consists of several sanity checks before conducting the transition
if said checks fail, it'll abort the whole process.. even if it's part-way
...so is it in an OTA update loop at that point?
one of the OTAs available (per version) does appear to be a full OTA... but I suspect getting non-corrupted files back onto the device won't be particularly straightforward.
This happens every time I try to jailbreak
because you aren’t entering DFU mode correctly
What do I have to do I press down menu & play after I press enter and I release it after the countdown ends
I’ve gotten it
what apple tv is it?
Apple TV HD I ended up getting it working because I realised I had too stop holding them when the light started flashing 😶
Apologies for the intrusion, and knowing I must sound like an idiot....
I am attempting to JB ATV 4k w/ GE/DCSC as I had years ago, this time using tvOS 17.4 (willing to go to 17.5 if that's also still a go)-
Config:
- ATV 4k (A1842) tvOS 17.4
pleease disregard... msg incomplete. will reepost completee in about 2 min
Let’s try this again….
And once again, apologies for the intrusion, and knowing I must sound like an idiot....
I am attempting to JB ATV 4k w/ GE/DCSC as I had years ago, this time using tvOS 17.4 (willing to go to 17.5 if that's also still a go)-
Config:
- ATV 4k (A1842) tvOS 17.4
- palera1n-macos-x86_64 (Current- 428) directly from https://cdn.nickchan.lol/palera1n/c-rewrite/artifacts/main/428/
- Host MacBook Pro (intel)
Steps
- Connected DCSC&GE to MacBook to force DFU (confirmed fast flash)
- Removed DCSC cable from Mac & GE, replaced with USB-A to Lightening cable (both are Apple official (USB cable, and USB-C to USB-A adapter)
- Launch palera1n— ./palera1n-macos-x86_64 -f --cli
- Doesn’t see ATV after waiting reasonable time, ctrl-c the app
- Reverse alignment of Lightning cable at GE interface
- Again Launch palera1n— ./palera1n-macos-x86_64 -f --cli
- This time it PARTIALLY works/fails per below (I think due to “unsupported target OS version”?
Questions:
- Any reason NOT to update the ATV to 17.5 (current), and then JB as don’t want to deal with this again on this one for a while (I actually a total 3 ATV if I can get through this one).
- Why is second half of install not completing on ATV (likely based on msg about catalog).
- Had expected to have two override check for tvOS version (see unsupported)
- USING CLI given comments about lack of current viability in t-gui.
Console listting
Any thoughts per chance? guessing simple stupid mistake
- because the more security; the more jailbreak-related things break.
- This is an issue with checkm8 on I/O not detecting the steps, happens on HD too
- is this a question?
- Sounds more like troubleshooting feedback than a question...
I wouldn't recommend anyone attempt to jailbreak the 4K until the HD version is 100%... this being the case of accidental OS corruption which may lead to bootlooping
Understood (4k should wait till HD proofed out).
My questions (sorry if I wasn't clear were around the following issues).
1- Is there possibly a settting I was missing on the comand line arg for palra1n to ignore/bypass the version of tvOS when setting up as I have 17.4 which is not OFFICIALLY supported (at least in the MAIN of pailra1n)
2- What does the errorr msg I recieved mean? (you are correct that this one is more trroubleshooting)-- collection_remove: WARNING: element 0x7f7f50c05f50 not present in collection 0x10adba970 (cap 8)
3- Any reeason to stay on tvOS 17.4 vs 17.5 (other than the everr present statment stay loow of course). Reason being rather only do this once for this device and lock it down as I did in the past.
Thanks for previous reply 👍
- No. The command-line args are fine, it's not what you typed in, it's the constant connection/disconnection that palera1n initiates during the checkm8 process.. especially during the pongoOS boot. I had to restart the script several times just to get pongoOS to pick up the device in its state.
- That is a kernel element that the patch finder collects to allow codesigning.
- Unless apps nag for an update, I see zero reason to add more security to a 4K. It's already difficult enough Apple has killed the native USB port that we have to go on the internet to find a specific knock-off cable that Apple internal uses to flash the device.. Can only imagine what magic Apple is keeping inside these updates to kill jailbreaking further...
- TY for confirming at least it wasn't a stupid mistake on my part (did read, and review the manpage, and inline --help)
- Got you. (confirming your commeent likly an interraction on the iboot process). The palera1n app does indeed show no boot args when I launch it on the ATV. Perhaps nuking it and trying again would help (tryying repeatedly 2 time so far- back the DFU dosen't seem to help). But don't want to wastee your time here on a config you are telling me is likely still problematic even with posts here to get things working. 👍
- Yeah I did have a number of apps (and Apple Dev app) that were pushing me to update which is why I uped one of my ATV 4k's to 17.4 so thought that 17.4 vs 17.5 shouldn't be as material given vector of Checkm8t but it's been years sincee I was deep in the internals so will defer to others with more contemporary knowlege like yourself
I love that folks think "oh, just another update.. what could go wrong?" then after OTA-ing.. they find themselves stuck in a hole because of compatibility issues, then they turn to Reddit or Discord for help.. especially on how to downgrade. It's just sad really, They need to stop enforcing unwanted updates. ESPECIALLY when you buy new hardware like headphones for example. You shouldn't have to update to use something like that.
Agreed.... Though unfortunately an unwinable desire (just like my disire to freeze cloud based services at a STABLE WORKING build/config) unless I MANUALLY ask for update... EEvery day using ANY cloud based seervice brings a new poteenttial round of wach-a-mole (yyes I am talking about u AMZ) lol
and yet qnother reeason I am moving to LOCAL hosted voice seervicees when I get a CHANCE to add to my HA instance
But I digress...
I just love how one little thing leads to a chain of events to lock-down. Kind of like someone coming in to a bank and accidentally giving the teller a fake ID.. then the alarms go off, sirens and bars lower on the window. I do understand this is a security breach but at the same time, third-party organizations are already locked down as is.. There's no real need to get this cynical over a movement to freedom.
Thanks again... Pleease don't take this as ANY kind of slight, I may trying pinging Nitro and somee folks there to see if they have any additional thought about my specific deployment as perhaps this is something they may have seen.
No prob, maybe Apple would be more open to jailbreaks if folks weren't using them to lie, cheat or steal (I'm talking about you snapchat nude collectors, game hackers and IAP crack devs! 😛 )
Tru nuf'
FYI- Willing/planning to share anything useeful here I find out, on the assumption it can benifit others whoo may find themself in similar situation. Thanks again...
Though some trial and error (most with I can log and hopefully reproduce for anyone looking to move this forward)...
- I managed to get Palera1n installed & (perhaps) JB…
- Installed purePKG (no icon & no top shelf image if that matters)
- Unfortunately I miss-entered the repo URL and now have a bad/malformed repo that I can’t remove (using the UI reemove). Lets me select and delete but reeepoo isn't ACTUALLY removed. It SEEMS like this bad repo (dropped the https:// (from https://zenzeq.github.io/tv/). I was able to add it correctly but seems the INCORRECT entry is actually stoping me from installing TrollHelper even though I can find it in the repo and TRY to install.
I assume if I could ssh in I could nuke the repo list (or manually remove). Ironically had somewhat similar issue if I recall YEARS ago when I needed to kill a repo from Nito that I couldn't purge via ui.
Any thoughts? Really don't want to try removing the JB in hoops that reinstalling would wipe the files and allow me back in as might not get its reinstalled 😉
Do you remove your DCSD cable and swap to USB to lightening cable during your JB process?
Yes… and no…
As I have done in the past, yes I did swap it out…. That led to the failure scenario I initially mentioned…
As part of many tests it tried once WITHOUT swapping and got further (to the point where I am now)…. Not yet to the point of recommending that yet
Current impediment is having a corrupt repo file and not being able to get in via sftp or ssh using mobile or root with alpine to fix
Since the repo file is fubar’d can’t install anything via pure
Bummer. I have a 4K 1st gen and decided to move off tvOS 13.4.5. Most apps weren’t compatible so updated to 17.5. Took a few ^C with Palera1n but got it work. Always kept the GE/DCSD cables plugged in. BTW Go Giants!
is there any particular reason that when jailbreaking with checkra1n on 13.4.8 on an aTV4, the home screen will just become inaccessible at random? i can still use the app switcher and everything else works fine, it's just that the home screen becomes a blurry nothingness
...and based on the discussion i'm seeing, should i consider updating to 17.5 while it's still signed? (if it's jailbreakable on that fw anyhow)
Nope, tried to contact them various different ways, couldn't get a refund because I used a debit card rather than a credit card... never got the product...
I can't recommend.
Really...
I want to buy a breakout board, but there's literally no contact information for lilsteve
I don't even mind paying the $70
Just purchase it from the gizmodo website
gizmodo or gizmite
Depends what checkra1n version you used, pc type etc
I have a MBP and a ATV 4k gen 1
I believe it's gizmodo.. I'd have to double check. There's only one website
I guess it is gizmite
and the purveyor doesn't respond to emails... in fact there's no contact information at all
It's been a long time
Precisely why I'm asking now 🙂
@uneven wraith mentioned that they cannot get the Goldeneye/DCSD cables to boot into DFU mode
I'm not sure if they are using a Mac or a PC
Im half-way decent at soldering. I solder bluetooth modules into old iPods
Tried everything
I'm not even sure that I want to jailbreak anymore. Tempted to just use my Onn 4k android box which I've already "jailbroke" and sideloaded Kodi and disabled the stock launcher
I just like the apple ecosystem as they make better hardware generally
@uneven wraith Do you know of people that have had major success? What version of tvOS are you on for your 4k gen 1
I just don't want to buy these cables and then have it not work. Though I do have a 4k gen2 and I think the cable also work for that?
Nope, 14.3
Everything I see online says it should work but it just doesn't
Mine is also on 14.3
Seems like the breakout board will be the only way forward
Plus I just think it'd be neat to have one with a breakout board
Has anyone actually talked to lilstevie recently
I picked up my GE and DCSD on eBay. I have 1st gen 4Ks on 14.2, 14.4 and 17.5 and was able to successfully jailbreak. Used checkra1n on 14.x and Palera1n for 17.5. Palera1n took a few attempts but was able to eventually jailbreak.
Are those listings for cables still active
9/10 if the cables don't work then it's either bad hardware or bad configuration
because Kevin has the cables and they work just fine to DFU
and the reason why it says it does work online is because folks with good hardware and good configurations actually have it working
There is a bit of a way to do it.. it's kind of complicated
DCSD Alex cable for engineering line, the DCSD Alex cable is used in factories to communicate over serial to run tests and write to the SysCfg (for serial definitions, etc) during production, WL 64Bit Phone hdd test fixture engineering line is the specialized dcsd USB cable, connect the 64bit mijing hdd test fixture with your computer, this dcsd...
I'm not sure of the reliability of said cables
Apples pretty quick to shut down sources
Welp…love u/hate u Apple. Hoping for minimum power outages so I don’t need to constantly rejailbreak my 4Ks haha.
just takes one person to click the remote and hit that "would you like to update?" button
Yes…that is my greatest fear with my kids.
Why not just get a cheap UPS
Sources of the cables?
Is there maybe like a reliable AliExpress vendor?
(I doubt they could shut down AliExpress vendors given their declining relationship with Chinese manufacturers)
aliexpress/alibaba are theives
they'll send you garbage for cheap and refuse any legit refunds
So CONUS-made dongles are preferred?
I guess I have so much to learn about this stuff
I'll second that. Though I like to & do support the RE community and open souce hw hacking!
FYI for anyone considerrring I just posted on Nito-
considering what
(was trying to not spam by cross-posting, but since u asked)......
Ok in the interests of helping others (who take the time to search comments here).
- Yes, GE/DCSC work to JB ATV 4k gen 1 using palera1n (as of palera1n, Intel- build 428).
- The trick is NOT to disconnect the DCSC cable from the GE adapter as one would have done with previous generation of Palera1n.
- Yes, said combination does indeed work with tvOS 17.5.1
- Someone needed to test, so I took the chance so we know for sure.
- Also my other 2 ATV 4k gen 1’s are on 15.1-15.5, and only way I can get my Giants baseball on NBCsports BA (or any of Apple's BB coverage) is by updating to at least tvOS 17... Plus with WWDC around the corner, helpful not having to work around Apple's restrictions for OS version on the Developer app... Thus the other 2 will EVENTUALLY update after I review their current settings and note current tweaks & repos- knowing of course most won’t work on 17 but that will be a education experience in the future when I have time to catch up on current state of which repos are useful/stable, tweaks, and package Managers.
Seems QUITE a lot has changed in the past 3 or so years since I have been out of the scene and clearly have a lot to (re)learn thanks again to those who helped or even just tried to help (and thanks as well for some good luck I seemingly stumbled upon along the way) 👍
One final question as I reach a logical pausing point. Is there ANY way to lock down software update? I of course turned off but know Apple tends to not always respect that setting/wish. In days of yore we used mobile profiles we knew would never hit as a way to block updates, hide the update process, or even had a JB or 2 that OFFERED to block updates. I don’t have PiHole operating so I can’t blackhole the update (if that would even work), so looking for a solution to ensure nothing changes my loadset on this ATV as I plan for updating the other 2…
You could block at the DNS level with PiHole/Adguard
Thanks for the info. I think it would help to know what vendors produce / supply hardware that works consistently. You also say DCSC.. do you. mean DCSD?
And does having an M1 mac make a difference?
linux, 12.4 beta on arch linux on an intel macbook air
macOS was generally just being slow for me on the most recent version so i hopped to linux instead
it is a very old macbook
fast fingers and a butterfly keyboard are a dangerous mix....
Yes, DCSD
ARM vs intel SHOULDN'T be an issue there are ARM & Universaln builds of the new version palera1n. As mentioned my test set is from Intel/MacBookPro. USB timeing should also of course be compatable
Can't follow up on hardware suppliers my rig (DCSD is ancient- old 3 LED version w/USB-A interface picked up from Jin years and years ago), GE at least 4 or 5 yrs ago via ebay sellar suree long gone
just to specify, it is a 2011 era macbook air that can only go up to high sierra
If I EVER found myself a week of time I didn;t know what to do with I would look into seeeing if I could get the Linux version of palera1n running in a container (or VM) on my QNAP NAS, so I didn't have to haul my laptop over to my ATV for reboot.... But way to janky for normal I suspect more just proof of concept and learning exercise but have too fix my ZFS issues LONG before tackeling that!
Hardware passthrough to containers is a PITA
If your OS doesn't handle IOMMU very well then it'll be impossible
Likely you'll have to pass through the whole USB bus
As I said interesting thought experiment.... More practiclee solution would be the tiny old rasberryPi based checkma8 devices I rememeber from years ago. Out of curiousity anyone know if they still exists, and I supose more relevantly, if they can take the new palera1n? I still do a bit of IoT stuff but haven't stayed up on what is current w/r/t palera1n
FYI- https://ra1nbox.com
From CURSORY review looks like it COULD be viable with current builds (for ARM).... You of course still need to make sure you have a USB interface to your ATV but maybe that's a betteerr solution forr those cpu chaallanged folks. Just understand that this is VERY fringe so expect do do a lot of colaborative debugging with a good deal of paticence before you reliably construct a predictable rig.... but then yooujr are golden!
"Manual update/downgrade:
If you want to manually upgrade or downgrade for whatever reason, follow these instructions:
Download checkra1n arm/arm64 version from the checkra1n website
Connect to your Ra1nbox using either SFTP or WGET method listed below:
SFTP (easiest method): Use an FTP client like Filezilla and connect using SFTP method with above credentials
WGET: Make a SSH connection using Terminal on MacOS or for example Putty on Windows
Browse to the /home/ra1nbox/ra1nbox folder and replace the existing checkra1n file
Set rights to chmod 777 to make sure both regular and root user can read the file. Either using SFTP or SSH (see FAQ)"
Cross pooosting in hopes I find a knowlegable soul........
Seeems the joy neeverr ends... Dispite not yet having figured out the right way to block OTA updates on 17.5, I havee an old 4k gen 1 that I just can't update the system sopftware on..... Strangest thing. JB with OLD version of of checkra1n running tvOS 14.6....
Tried reverting FS using checkra1n app AFTER ensure in Nito that updates are turned on in the app AND sytem updates are on in the preferernces.... Retried twice (fails afterr downloading)....
Reboooted tried updatee again (anotther 2 times)....
Rebooted, tried to WIPE and update using prefernces..... Same failure right at end of step 1
Then went and reinstalled the OLD JB..... Am back in the boox with root/ssh... Any idea what's blocking and any ideea how to just FORCE it too pull new image off net? I know I can FORCE DFU with my DCSD connected to the GE but DOUBT I want to try trransfering an image from laptop and not supported (outsideee apple)
Guessing either update prefs or processes are still comperrmised so it won't update? Strange no way to just simpley for nuke & pave
Any thoughts from the brain trust?
You can enforce updates by setting supervisor on the device, then installing a profile. Also if you can't update regularly, make sure there's no profiles installed.
Regarding profiles. Don’t BELIEVE there are and and don’t see anything in general )assuming they show the same way as iOS in general right? This is ancient tvOS 14.6….
It dosent SEEM like a setting prob (not normal ui) as it does start and dl but fails with DIRRING the update or update/reset that occurs after
Version of checkm8 and display of dl before fail
So a bit unsure that manged prefs will force something to work that is already being chosen. I mean that in the best way as I’m trying to learn 👍
Don’t managed prefs only allow/disallow/trigger the same system process as the ui (at least in this case). And I have tried both update in place as well as erase/update (aka reset & update) both with same results…. Other ATV on same version (or close 15.x) worked like champ…. Restored via checkra1n, then sw update via prefs
No this old checkra1n running on old build tvOS (14.6). But since that’s what’s on there that’s what I’m using…. Trying to update system to tvos 17 and then will re-JB with version of palera1n I have used on other 2 4k gen 1 boxes
I’ve installed it and removed several times in my attempts to update…. Is installed now to facilitate ssh access as I have root on the box trying to troubleshoot or just force the update to 17.5.1
is there a way for me to take my 14.3 install up to 14.5 or do I have to update to the latest version
Not at this point. Blobs won’t do u any good as u have no image to restore. There are VERY complicated attempts been made over years to try to SYNTHESIZE an image from OTA deltas but really not worth the grief and EXTREMELY low likelihood of success…. And this from some who had successfully used futureRestore from the command line years and years ago before things like delayOTA and even FutuRestore gui
No reason for apple to publish images for devices that they don’t have consumer based image restore interfaces. We have access to image restore using jtag or GE like apple but the GM images aren’t published by apple
So this doesn't do me any good? It looks like a signed version
If u try to force an update u get current for your device type.
Only way around that is DelayOTA not applicable in your case as u are years to late…
IF u are JB now u MAY be able to force a SUPERVISED updat to ANOTHER CURRENTLY SIGNED RELEASE. But can’t imagine ANYTJING for 4k gen 1 signed but 17.x
So JB at 14.3 first and then update to keep the JB?
Simple. IF u can JB do it.
tbh all I really care about is being able to use Kodi for IPTV and Plex as I self-host basically everything. If I can get full Kodi on the thing without JB then I'm ok not JB'ing
If AFTER jb I want update and a signed version IS STILL AVAILAVLE AND CAN BE JB then u MAY be able to mange your way to it but that’s just theory since apple NEVER leaves a competmised version signed for years so no point beating that dead horse
Don’t need JB for either. Don’t make ur life complicated. Plex is in App Store and been on my apple devices for 10+ yrs
Played with kodi when it was xbox media play on my first hacked xbox back in the day…. Long since retired to basement.
U can sideload kode if u really want to hack up Plex to add your iptv streams. Look online u will find solutions that make iptv streaks look like Plex tuners
Again to complicated and long a discussion for time I have at the moment at least u know what to do…. Sideload kode if u need install Plex from AppStore….
Now if I can just get this last damn ATV to download and update to current!
😣
I also got this response from an eBay seller:
I got good picks for today that's gonna hit
MSG me if interested
ebay sellers only test the validity of basic functionality. They don't know for sure it it's 100%
they don't go through the process of testing out every single function, they just plug it in and see if the lights work
Yeah I know - I posted the response mainly for the meme
Is sideloading kodi onto atv persists through reboots and does the sideloaded app needs to be reloaded every 7 days if I don’t have dev account (which I do). Just trying to work out limitations of upgrading from 14.3 to 17.5 on atv 4 (not 4K) and not jailbreaking.
How much is a dev account and how did you buy your way into it
Sideloading anything will expire in 7 days on a free apple ID. If you were to enroll in a developer account, you'd be paying 99 dollars a year for 365 days of expiration.
That's a PITA
The price we pay for freedom unfortunately
I have an AppleTV (2015) 32GB on tvOS 10.2.2. I found a video that palerain can get trollstore working on tvOS 17.5. Should I update? (@me please)
I updated.
can you still JB?
trollstore only works on 17.0 and lower
of course, the HD is jailbreakable for life
Sorry, meant 4k gen1
Again, yes
Excellent. Sorry for the rehashing, I am brand new to this word
World
Tis all good
Did the App Store work for you on 10.2.2?
I can’t download any apps, getting “unable to download” at like a quarter of the installation bar. Tried multiple restores and Apple IDs to no avail.
I really just want an explanation for this issue. 😭
13.4.8 is fine, of course.
10.2.2 is severely outdated..
oops i just saw this ill fix that lol
Also, make purepkg process upon clicking "install" without having to go to queuing to confirm
Not really a tvOS jailbreak issues but has anyone figured out how to consistently get the CEC function to work? I used to have CEC connectivity with my tv, receiver and 4K APT. This morning it randomly stopped working and I can’t enable it through my APT. I’ve made no changes to my settings and CEC is still enabled on my receiver. Only option I have now is control volume via IR on receiver or tv.
Ok think I figured it out. Had to reset 4K. After reset “Auto via HDMI (receiver)” function came back. Re-jailbroken 4K and still have CEC controls again. CEC controls on APT’s are so janky.
Does anyone know how to disable OTA updates with ssh by editing the file system on Apple TV HD I am on 17.4 jailbroken and I just want to disable updates, I have root access just need to figure out the location
sudo find / -name "com.apple.MobileAsset.plist"
the location of that file is what you'd use to extract via scp, modify the plist valued to https://mesu.apple.com/assets/tvOS17DeveloperSeed then transfer back
Your amazing thank you so much
per https://github.com/Mikasa-san/Block-OTA?tab=readme-ov-file ... should be /var/mobile/Managed Preferences/mobile/ though of course YMMV.... Ironicaly trying too doo tthe same with my tvos 17.5.1 systems.... My try Zenzeq's sugestion to see if I can pick up the backup file as well.
Had to create later 2 levels of the heirachy. The search did present anything useful as private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist refers to only Siri settings, and /private/var/mobile/Managed Preferences/mobile/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist is the file I created (with later 2 directories per sugestion linked above). Anyone have something different for an UNMANAGED system?
Living-Room-Apple-TV:~ root# sudo find / -name "com.apple.MobileAsset.plist" /System/Library/CacheDelete/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist find: ‘/cores/.fseventsd’: Operation not permitted find: ‘/private/preboot/.fseventsd’: Operation not permitted find: ‘/private/var/.fseventsd’: Operation not permitted find: ‘/private/var/mobile/.fseventsd’: Operation not permitted /private/var/mobile/Managed Preferences/mobile/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist /private/var/root/Library/Preferences/com.apple.MobileAsset.plist Living-Room-Apple-TV:~ root#
I think since you've updated, apple's caught on and moved the file or changed/renamed the ota file
Define reset?
Settings > System > Reset
Ah that makes sense now. And a shame as now I need to find another way to block updates.
Dosent seem like profile tricks work any longer either so it’s down to seeing if one can still attack the update processes?
Well, since you're jailbroken, best thing to do is to update tweaks
Unless someone has a better idea on blocking OTA updates on 17.5
It's getting difficult seeing as there's no proper package manager
By the time that happens, tvOS 18 is out and we're back to square 1
Thanks, Is there a good tweak/pkg that works to block w/changes in 17? Don’t see anything like the old compatibility spreadsheet anymore (at least not for later OS and /or ATV )
Found bunch for older
iOS
Easy to do with pihole/adguard/etc
As someone who years ago worked for a DNS company (and met one of the original authors of DNS)…. Blackholeing the right apple subdomains (if I knew them) might work locally (as you were implying for the ATV) but won’t help me as my phone of course can resolve using WAN/mobile data services…. So I would also need to run a vpn or run something to attack the dns config.
Is there a version of secureDNS that runs on ATV? Recall seeing a version in AppStore years ago I think in installed on my phone
DNScloak
I've got a bricked 4k appletv 1st gen (flashes, nothing on screen) that I've been able to connect to via DFU mode / breakout usb soldering. Is there ANY way to actually restore one of these? I'm now realizing there are no ipsws I could use with this model
can't get it to show up in finder - i'm plugged into a big sur install. If i find a way to get itunes running will it see it in DFU mode?
appleconfigurator won't restore because no images are available
finder should see it if it's plugged in
try closing apple configurator, I think that affects finder device detection
no go - the machine won't boot up so that may be part of it, or it just doesn't want to connect to a unit that it shouldn't be able to connect to via usb
try updating it using apple configurator since as far as I know all of the tvOS versions for that model are all OTA updates
Apple configurator says no image available
tried running checkra1n (failed -26 and -31) and then it did pop up in finder but when i try to restore "Software for this Apple TV is not currently available."
apple configurator says tvos cannot be restored on this device. No applicable System images were provided. [ConfigurationUtilityKit.error – 0x263 (611)]
guess it's a brick
I did work out easy breakout plans though - not too difficult if you know how to solder small stuff
rapid flash is brick afaik
I managed to have the atv exchanged for free out of warranty by apple years ago when it happened to me
There's no software that will help you. The board is broken.
Some folks can get out of it but in this case, it seems to force DFU mode automatically which is a hardware fault.
If only apple would allow us to do so..
I would just try contacting apple and blame it on a software update :) https://support.apple.com/en-by/108807
Learn what to do if your Apple TV won't start up after a software update.
Does anyone know the location of these files thru scp
Its reprovision on tvos13
Seems to be that airdropped files are backuped on device
found em. ignore
/var
Which tvOS version is ideal for 4K gen 1?
the lowest.
Like 12.x or 13.x?
Better yet what’s highest that can be jb?
17.5
Using which method and how is the payload delivered?
palera1n
Is ts available for certain version range? Somone has a few and I wan to make sure singe the right one.
The latest should work for the latest
Some tweaks need updating
So don’t get one on 13.x or 16.x?
You can but if you can't..
I think 13 is terrible for app compatibility
Yet, every tweak works well with it
See that’s why I’m a bit uncertain.
But the 4K is a set device, can't selectively downgrade
Right, which is why I wanna buy the correct one. Starting off lower if I have to. Is TrollStore available on 16.6 or 17.x?
As far as 17.0 and as low as 14
Ok then I’ll get the one on the middle range then at 16.6
Will tweak support be bad at 16.x vs 13.x?
Maybe I’ll just buy both
Tweak support isn't as great on 16 compared to 13
What are you planning to tweak?
Whatever I still can. It’s been ages
There's not much other than folks trying to get free stuff
That’s why I’ll probably get two one on 13.4.8 and one on 16.6. Is 13.4.8 a good version for tweak support?
I don’t know what’s available to install so I want to have options regardless
It is, but getting a 4K on anything lower than 14 is like winning the lottery
Guess I bought my ticket then
Unless someone bought one 4 years ago and kept it in a drawer since
Someone is selling a few and those are the ranges
I ended up getting two. 13.4.8 and 16.6
Are you sure they're 1st gen 4k devices?
I sure hope so. That’s what it says on description

Ask for the model number or serial
They are A1842
Imagine buying them then having it updated
Now I’ll just sell my 4K 2nd gen 14.7 to offset the cost.
Good luck, folks don't like something that has no USB
🤫. I didn’t know until a year after I got it. I still kept black protective tape that came with it so I had no idea what it did or didn’t have
Every senior with a bootlooped apple tv because the update interrupted:
?
No usb = no connecty to puty to restore..-y
I accidentally started an update when nagging pop up came when trying to resume show on dvr. Had to unplug it quickly
I hear you
The only time you can get away with it is when the screens doing the steps
But as the Apple logo pops up and finalized everything.. Then it's too late
I don’t remember what was on screen I jumped up so quick and just yanked the power cord out
There's 3 stages at first, one is prep, then second is doing checks, then third is application
And the checks are in place to see if the firmware has been modified or if the filesystem is compromised (jailbroken)
If the checks fail, it'll abort and present an error
Oh I don’t think it got to any stage then. It was unplugged in less than two second
It happens right after the OTA downloads
Not sure maybe it did download. Not like I can delete it if it did though
There's not enough space to hold the OTA so if it fails, it redownloads
Is there an ota blocker tweak or profile for when I do get the two other units?
There is if you jailbreak
That’s the goal. So tired of damn update now update later screens
I got an apple TV 4k from my school's dumpster (model A1842) on TV OS 14.5. Is there a way to update it to a version of TV OS that's trollstore/jailbreak compatible? It doesn't have any USB but I do have an apple dev license. It works perfectly. Just don't want to lose the chance to JB
The apple TV does not have usb btw
you can jailbreak and get TS on your current version, albeit you'll need special cables (due to there being no USB port on any of the 4K's)
Ah ok. It seems like apps like Disney+ only support at least TVOS 15.6+
Zenzeqs repo has a tweak to fix that. I’m in 14.5 and able to stream Disney+ with no issues.
Ah ok thats great. Now I need to figure out how to JB
How to resign on 4k with sideloadly? Have to do each app again?
@ionic copper
im gonna go insane
Are you jailbroken? What model atv?
Jailbroken on 14.7, ATV 4
Get it in nito. Zenzeqs repo
Np
?
The one I had ordered.
Whoever had it probably downgraded it
Probably at 14.x at some point right?
If not, the latest
But I think from there, you can get to 15.x ota
Should I though? Will tweak support suck?
I know you can't get to the latest from such a low version
Because the prerequisites want 14/15
Unless apps complain to be on a higher version..
hey, which version of tvos supports switch controllers?
15 to latest iirc
my 4k on 13.4 nags for 17.5.1 if i enable OTA in nitoTV/unc0ver
not 15.x
actually, just tested on my HD on 13.4.8. can confirm it DOES update direct to 17.5.1
well its the first time ive tried this. but yea, direct 13.4.8 > 17.5.1
spank you. Now to update tweaks and piss off apple via palera1n
downloading rn
I wouldn't update just yet..
I tried it and all they really did was change the Apple TV app a bit and that's kinda it.
went back to 17.2 RC
I finally got Minecraft to run on my Apple TV HD
Apple@tv edition?
anyone know how to install palera1n on old apple tv 4gen
only issue is that its on 17.5.1
tfw no tvos updates in #announcements 
Nice
We can grind if you want
i got an iphone but the old owner is ded and i cant bypass activation lock
someone help
!t icloudbypass
Hey @opal sparrow, have a look at this!
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rip to owner:(
gl
i have a apple 4k tv i might jb soon
OK I seriously don't understand why the fuck this Apple TV refuses to install TrollStore -_-
I have it working on a ton of them but for some reason I have 2 4K 3rd gens that it just refuses to work on and just does this... i'm doing the exact same thing I'm doing for all the other ones I even factory reset the damn thing lmao
Factory reset it again and went through the whole process and still got the same damn thing. I don't get it
GOT IT. Finally. Found one guy that had the same error and said to disconnect the Internet while Misaka is attempting to install TrollStore so I did that and it worked instantly 😒
Does anyone’s controller work on tvOS 14.7
xbox one controller
Mine says connected but I get no inputs at all
ps4 does
some apps aren't compatible with said controllers as they're "MFI" and third-party controllers aren't default with such profile
so no xbox one controllers