!sep
#futurerestore-help
gloomy ore
mystic axleBOT
!t sepbb <@852586745002197074>
gloomy ore
thx
gloomy ore
yes it is, the SEP and baseband for your device is "iPadOS 11.3 - iPadOS 12.5.4"
@olive oasis
you need the blobs
olive oasis
I have for 10.3.1
gloomy ore
but the sep is compatible from 11.3 to 12.5.4 (information of the image of @mystic axle)
olive oasis
So i can only downgrade to 11.3 to 12.5.4 ?
gloomy ore
from where I know yes
barren oak
Are these settings correct for restoring an ipad 2018 (a10) from 14.8 to 14.3?
It also tells me "Waiting for message from FDR" for almost 5 minutes now and the Ipad progressbar is like 80%
gloomy ore
Are these settings correct for restoring an ipad 2018 (a10) from 14.8 to 14.3?
hmm, you put "preserve data (update)" and you're doing a downgrade ...
barren oak
hmm, you put "preserve data (update)" and you're doing a downgrade ...
Yes. I want to keep my data
gloomy ore
i understand but the option for keep data is only for update (at least that's what the program says)
novel barn
I am on iOS 14.7.1 and I am currently not in jailbroken on an a14 device But I have saved my blobs and my generator was already set can I still downgrade to 14.4.2
I’m having issues the future restore do you have to be jailbroken to use it
frosty marlin
I’m having issues the future restore do you have to be jailbroken to use it
no
If your nonce was set, then you can downgrade, but you have to show us what's the issue you're having
celest basalt
Are these settings correct for restoring an ipad 2018 (a10) from 14.8 to 14.3?
yeah you fucked
due to filesystem being different
you should restore now
neon blade
is 14.8 sep compatible with 14.5.1?
errant socket
is 14.8 sep compatible with 14.5.1?
yes
errant socket
Does erase all content and settings change my nonce
gloomy ore
Now I am here after a month, I want to try with 0x111 ... generator and re-create the apnonce for downgrade. I saw people who have my problem and I solve it. I am on iOS 14.8 so I have nothing to lose trying. I hope you are available to help me at some point... Thank you very much for the help you gave me before and also if you help me now. Thanks (the problem is that I want to downgrade to 14.3 but I saved the blobs with "blobsaver 2.0" and I will try with the generator 0x111 ... to recreate the apnonce for downgrade) can you help me pls :3 ?
valid adder
@gusty iris ok then set generator, I'll wait
valid adder
...
gusty iris
Alas it was not
valid adder
what else would nonce mean
gusty iris
I don’t know what it means I just know it’s the funny number I grab to make blobs
valid adder
number use once
gusty iris
ohhhhhhhhhhhh
ocean skiff
cani check lets say i am on ios 14.4
i would like to downgrade to 14.3
i would need a shsh2 blob for 14.3 and the unsigned ipsw for 14.3 right?
errant socket
i would need a shsh2 blob for 14.3 and the unsigned ipsw for 14.3 right?
And you need to be jailbroken
ocean skiff
And you need to be jailbroken
Yes I am jailbroken on 14.4 using checkrain but I can't shsh2 blobs at 14.3. only 14.7.1 and above
errant socket
Yes I am jailbroken on 14.4 using checkrain but I can't shsh2 blobs at 14.3. on...
you can use shsh2 blobs on 14.3
ocean skiff
you can use shsh2 blobs on 14.3
I can't blobs at that version on tssaver. Only 14.7.1 and above
errant socket
I can't blobs at that version on tssaver. Only 14.7.1 and above
yes i know
ocean skiff
yes i know
i don't get what you mean
so i can use a unsigned ipsw at 14.3 and a shsh2 blob at 14.7.1 ?
errant socket
i don't get what you mean
ocean skiff
i don't get what you mean
i was asking as i have a jailbroken ios 14.4 . i would like to downgrade to ios 14.3 . i have downloaded the unsigned ipsw 14.3 and wouldl ike to check if i would need the shsh2 blob at 14.3? because currently shsh.host and tsssaver are returning me download links for 14.7.1 and above shsh2 blob
ocean skiff
yes so is there anyplace which i can download 14.3 blobs? because https://tsssaver.1conan.com/v2/ and https://shsh.host/ gives me 14.7.1 and above blobs
errant socket
yes so is there anyplace which i can download 14.3 blobs? because https://tsssa...
no you can't
balmy fox
hi
errant socket
hi
balmy fox
do i have to have jailbroken a12 device to get blob file?
errant socket
do i have to have jailbroken a12 device to get blob file?
no
balmy fox
oh
balmy fox
damn, i don't have jailbreak and i am on 14.4
celest basalt
yeah, this doesn't need a jailbreak
you don't need a JB to save blobs on A12+ anymore, but you will need one to use them in the future
celest basalt
you can only save blobs for signed versions, so right now you can start saving blobs for 14.7.1 and above
on A12+ downgrading with blobs is limited because you need to be on a jailbreakable version to downgrade, so it's more useful for upgrading
like if you stay on 14.4 but a 14.7.1 JB comes out but 14.7.1 is already unsigned, you can update to it
balmy fox
anyway I wanted to upgrade to newest iPadOS for a minute to checked if issue I have with an iPad is resolved or I have to apply to replace my iPad: if you go to settings and perform pinch in/out gesture with trackpad (it doesn't matter if regular trackpad or magic keyboard) system register this as a click/tap
celest basalt
yeah unfortunately you will not be able to downgrade after you upgrade to an unjailbreakable version (until there's a jailbreak for the new version, but by that time it will be likely to pointless to downgrade)
balmy fox
I tried to ask on bunch of apple chats, but there people are focused there on basic stuff like, "how do I restart my iPad" and no one payed attention to this rather specific question
balmy fox
like if you stay on 14.4 but a 14.7.1 JB comes out but 14.7.1 is already unsigne...
I'll do it then I'm waiting for jailbreak because I badly want to use UTM to run Linux
could you check this thing I mentioned provided you have required hardware?
celest basalt
yeah, just save blobs with blobsaver and stay on your current version if you want a jailbreak ASAP, then if the jailbreak happens to cover newer versions you can update and have the jailbreak too after the JB is out
my dad has an iPad but he doesn't have a trackpad/keyboard for it so I can't check, sorry
balmy fox
hmm
maybe I will go to apple store and plug trackpad there and check
eh this OS is so hostile towards doing anything more than taking notes and crap, I feel like it treats me like an invader
running code natively: no, OS backups: no, virtual machines: no, downgrading: no
how does apple tells it is suitable for desktop replacement, i don't know
sorry I had to vent, I am new iPad user
oak cedar
does upgrading iOS version through iTunes reset the device’s generator if I’ve set it before upgrading?
valid adder
device's generator will always be reset during any upgrade/restore, itunes is irrelevant
oak cedar
ok thanks
timber arch
Hi guys! Can i ask a question? With futurerestore,can i downgrade an iPhone 12 mini with iOS 14.4 to 14.3?
timber arch
Oh ok,thanks!
valid adder
as well as a jailbreak you also need saved blobs
mild mural
any futurerestore guides? there used to be one pinned
zealous bridge
!t futurerestore
mystic axleBOT
!t futurerestore
mild mural
and i'm assuming the one linked on the sub from 2018 wouldn't be good to follow 
mild mural
!t futurerestore
thanks
zealous bridge
Good assumption
gloomy ore
if my blob doesn't have a saved generator. To use it do I need to set the nonce to 0x111 ... ??? I am using ckeckra1n on iOS 14.8 and iPhone 6s (A9x)
i want to restore to iOS 14.3
valid adder
No it doesn’t just magically match to that generator
It’s easy to tell the generator if saved properly
What is the nonce
It’s the end of the blob name
@gloomy ore
gloomy ore
<@852586745002197074>
srry for don't answer, i'm here now
gloomy ore
It’s the end of the blob name
6284779828396_iPhone8,1_n71ap_14.3-18C66_b6b774e8c503a6bdef0af9a0803f6b90f287a84f.shsh2 (i have other blobs from the same device with another nonce in the name)
i saved my blob with blob saver BUT THE 2.0/2.5 VERSION
celest basalt
@zealous bridge whats the default taurine nonce
gloomy ore
i saved my blob with blob saver BUT THE 2.0/2.5 VERSION
@valid adder
errant socket
<@!218213049381683200>
why does the 2.0 version matter
gloomy ore
the 2.0 version don't save the generator
and maybe other information that i don't know
timid pollen
Is it possible to me to downgrade to 14.6 from 14.7 if I have blobs? On A14
gloomy ore
you need jailbreak to use futurerestore
errant socket
you need jailbreak to use futurerestore
No you don't
gloomy ore
Wow, I knew you needed to have a jailbreak to be able to set the nonce
sorry for misinforming if I'm wrong
timid pollen
You’re not wrong, I’ve looked it up. You need to be jailbroken.
errant socket
You’re not wrong, I’ve looked it up. You need to be jailbroken.
No you don't
If your nonce is frozen and correct for your blobs
gloomy ore
@errant socket if I set the nonce in 0x11… for example and then I restore rootfs the nonce will still in 0x111… ??? (Sorry for my bad English)
It would make sense because when I set the nonce, futurerestore puts the device into recovery mode and the jailbreak is disabled
valid adder
@gloomy ore how did you save blobs because that nonce doesn't make sense
valid adder
show all nonces
gloomy ore
ok
6284779828396_iPhone8,1_n71ap_14.7.1-18G82_3a88b7c3802f2f0510abc432104a15ebd8bd7154.shsh2
6284779828396_iPhone8,1_n71ap_13.6-17G68_28c9d632eba5680ce6e61ffb4c71338187709269.shsh2
valid adder
which version are you trying to go to
valid adder
do you have multiple 14.3 blobs
gloomy ore
do you have multiple 14.3 blobs
no
i want to try to downgrade, i don't loose nothing because i'm on 14.8
if its not posible... nothing to do
valid adder
how did you save with blobsaver
valid adder
no
gloomy ore
ok
valid adder
bruh
gloomy ore
... maybe i'm incorrect
gloomy ore
ooh
valid adder
where did you specify the nonce from
gloomy ore
read from device
valid adder
were you jailbroken at the time
gloomy ore
yes
valid adder
but did you set nonce when jailbroken
gloomy ore
but in that time i remember that the program don't ask you if you are or not jailboken
gloomy ore
but did you set nonce when jailbroken
yes
valid adder
what nonce did you set then
gloomy ore
really i don't remember
valid adder
well then the blob is useless if you can't remember
gloomy ore
but thats a super large code
gloomy ore
aaaah
valid adder
its only 16 long
gloomy ore
0x11...
queen halo
hey, i need help. having this error:
[03:08:01.0573-GMT]{3>5} CHECKPOINT ERROR: Unable to successfully restore device
FDR 0x1bf0cd0 timeout waiting for command
FDR 0x1bf0cd0 waiting for message...
No data to read (timeout)
FDR 0x1bf0cd0 timeout waiting for command
FDR 0x1bf0cd0 terminating...
END: RESTORED:[0x0647] cleanup_check_result
restore-step-ids = {0x11030613:23}
restore-step-names = {0x11030613:find_filesystem_partitions}
restore-step-uptime = 11
restore-step-user-progress = 0
[03:08:01.0573-GMT]{3>5} CHECKPOINT BEGIN: RESTORED:[0x0648] cleanup_send_final_status
restore-step-ids = {0x11030613:23;0x11030648:27}
restore-step-names = {0x11030613:find_filesystem_partitions;0x11030648:cleanup_send_final_status}
restore-step-uptime = 11
restore-step-user-progress = 0
Cleaning up...
[exception]:
what=ERROR: Unable to restore device
code=68026385
line=1038
file=futurerestore.cpp
commit count=194:
commit sha =0ab9df3209ee599f581532d05d331e6abe0f53f3:
Done: restoring failed!
updating from 14.4.2 to 14.5.1, have blobs, set generator
not sure what the error code here is 😓
gloomy ore
b6b774e8c503a6bdef0af9a0803f6b90f287a84f isn't from 0x111...
i read the nonce right now from de device selecting "no jailbreak" option
valid adder
you set something else or your nonce wasn't set @gloomy ore
valid adder
that won't work for the 14.3 blob
you needed to save the 2nd box value when saving
send me the 14.3 blob
gloomy ore
ok
valid adder
@queen halo give context
gloomy ore
i send you from dm ?
valid adder
thats fine
queen halo
like i said, upgrading from 14.4.2 to 14.5.1 with blobs and generator set properly
valid adder
thats not the context I need
queen halo
what do you need
valid adder
the command you ran
queen halo
oh sorry
"/home/removed/FutureRestoreGUI/extracted/futurerestore-v194" --apticket "/home/removed/Downloads/5120898902418362_iPhone8,1_n71map_14.5.1-18E212_3a88b7c3802f2f0510abc432104a15ebd8bd7154.shsh2" --debug --update --latest-sep --latest-baseband "/home/removed/Downloads/iPhone_4.7_14.5.1_18E212_Restore.ipsw"
thankfully it didnt brick my device so i can try again 😅
valid adder
@soft turtle does v2.5.0 save generator anyware?
@queen halo wym the 6s has perma jailbreak
queen halo
no but checkm8 auto setter is on it
valid adder
its not bricked you just need to restore to stock, set nonce and try again
mind sending the full log
queen halo
no it's not bricked, i just exited recovery and it was fine
valid adder
it failed restore it shouldn't be able to exit
odd
send full log pls
oh wait
I can check
one sec
queen halo
yeah i have send logs on
i might have to go today but i can come back tomorrow night maybe
valid adder
@queen halo does your device have a battery?
valid adder
well I have no idea why it would fail
queen halo
hm
valid adder
the error only makes sense if your battery isn't functional or absent
on your device
valid adder
I would try again with futurerestore beta selected
mystic axleBOT
!t futurerestore
queen halo
should i try running again?
kinda nervous at this point
lemme make an icloud backup again, will try tomorrow and report back, thanks :)
gloomy ore
@valid adder the shsh its ok ?? .-.
valid adder
@gloomy ore waiting on response
gloomy ore
ok thx
valid adder
@queen halo nothing to be nervous about if you backed up
update mode is always risky
gloomy ore
Thank you so much for everything. I'm going to sleep now, tomorrow if you are available to help me I would really appreciate it
soft turtle
<@!416760227778527232> does v2.5.0 save generator anyware?
No, the user would have to remember the nonce they set in versions before v3
errant socket
No, the user would have to remember the nonce they set in versions before v3
loss
valid adder
No, the user would have to remember the nonce they set in versions before v3
@gloomy ore your blob is useless, you should have upgraded to blobsaver latest version also don't use specify on a9
unless you wrote down the 2nd box
gloomy ore
unless you wrote down the 2nd box
Ok thank you very much, any chance to try something? Or everything will fail
And I’m using now TSS saver for save the blobs with the configuration “specify generator: 0x1111111111111111” this is correct ?
valid adder
Generator yes
gloomy ore
Ok, thanks
gloomy ore
If you have the blobs you can… I don’t recommend you because there is always the probability of error and having to restore to the latest version, besides that the untethered exploit works in your version. but if you can, of course you have the blobs
np, good luck with future restore
gloomy ore
Generator yes
Srry, I was wrong. The generator is this
valid hawk
Q: Does AppData of Unused "Offloaded" Apps saved on device survive an iOS Update? - via a full Future Restore (via iTunes or so?)
Does AppData of Unused "Offloaded" Apps saved on device survive an iOS Update?
Edit Details:
Would it be retained through an iOS Update? via these 3 ways:
OTA Update, Backup/ Restore via iTunes, or Fut Restore?
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Wondering how iOS manages this App Data etc through iOS upates?
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For e.g. Some Apps are way too big, and their use is infrequent/ once in a while,
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But I'd prefer not to lose the; Logins/ Sign ins, Documents/ Data, App Data/ Settings created within that App during its use.
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That's when I'd prefer to offload the App & down it when needed - work as before - use for few days/ a week - Off load again.
Can I preserve DATA if I go from 12.4 to 14.1 using FR GUI?
If you are upgrading or restoring to the same version the device is on, you may enable Preserve Data to keep data, however do not use this when downgrading. Especially when downgrading from 14.5 to a lower version, as that will result in a recovery loop.
celest basalt
bros typing a essay
valid adder
!t ibec
ebon mesa
will try
ebon mesa
thanks so much it worked im back on 14.3
plain mist
Spend some time away
Getting ready for the day you're born again
Spend some time alone
Understand that soon you'll run with better men
Alone again
Alone again
Alone again
Alone again
Alone
rustic blaze
Any difference between ota blob and on device blob
I got a error unable to place the device in restore mode
iPhone X restore from iOS 14.6 to 14.0.1
14.0.1 blob is on device saved
solemn karma
is there anyway i can use future restore to get me out of a bootloop
plain mist
is there anyway i can use future restore to get me out of a bootloop
Put it into recovery mode and then use futurerestore
solemn karma
sweet, thanks
what like do i do in future restore for that
im already in recovery mode
valid adder
Recovery mode loop is not a boot loop
solemn karma
i know im saying i was in a bootloop and i manually put it into recovery mode
if i exit i just go back to bootlooping
valid adder
You need blobs
tidal crane
Is this normal when "FDR Timeout 0x60003270120" happens?
So with the FDR Timeout, it successfully restored to iOS 14.5.1. Leaving this comment up incase if anyone else would like to know.
Trying to restore from iOS 14.7 to 14.5.1 with 14.8 sep on iPhone 10,6 using futurerestore gui.
rustic blaze
any difference between ota blob and on device blob
loud ore
So i can’t downgrade without jailbreaking?
plain mist
any difference between ota blob and on device blob
are you fr
celest basalt
any difference between ota blob and on device blob
that's like asking "any difference between an apple and an elephant"
plain mist
that's like asking "any difference between an apple and an elephant"
wow they never taught this to us in school
#fucktheschoolsytem
stiff hazel
I hate existing
stiff hazel
I mean the fact that we exist and yet “hi yes insert dipshitism here”
celest basalt
blobs can be categorized based on:
- Type: IPSW / OTA / Factory
- Source: TSS / Onboard
(I don't think TSS can give you factory blobs but apart from that...)
stiff hazel
just already is a pain in its own merit
celest basalt
source is irrelevant as long as it has a known generator, only thing you lose out on is the BBTicket (baseband blobs) which is currently useless anyway
plain mist
source is irrelevant as long as it has a known generator, only thing you lose ou...
watch a baseband exploit come out tomorrow
celest basalt
!t sepbb
celest basalt
@zealous bridge where does FR pull the latest bb/sep from?
celest basalt
but how does it know if you have the ice or mav baseband?
or what your board configuration is for the sep?
zealous bridge
Board config is readable
Ice or Mav (Baseband Processor) is also readable but you can tell from what device, Global devices use Mav while GSM use ICE iirc
So you can tell from that
celest basalt
ah ok
so what happens if you accidentally specify the wrong baseband, like what if i have a GSM iPhone X and i manually specify the mav baseband
also what version does FR pull the sep/bb from, does it pull from the latest stable release?
zealous bridge
Well if you supply the wrong manifest then it’ll fail straight away, but if it tries to send the wrong baseband the device won’t accept it and futurerestore will fail
zealous bridge
also what version does FR pull the sep/bb from, does it pull from the latest sta...
yes, but it can use any signed version
celest basalt
so could FR spit out what baseband/sep your device uses if you wanted to manually specify on your own?
also why hasn't that been implemented if its possible to do?
zealous bridge
so could FR spit out what baseband/sep your device uses if you wanted to manuall...
yes but in that case you might as well let futurerestore handle everything
with the ––latest flags
celest basalt
but
zealous bridge
absolutely no point for futurerestore to tell you what files to download and then you go and manually download it
celest basalt
sometimes the latest isnt compatible
for instance, lets say 14.8 changed the sep/bb but 14.7.1 was still signed
zealous bridge
yes in the 0.01% chance that happens there are loads of tools available which tell you what files you need
celest basalt
it isnt that rare...
apple doesnt unsign versions as soon as a new one comes
they wait a bit
so if 14.8 changed the sep/bb you couldnt use --latest-
zealous bridge
the latest sep is compatible down to 13.4, baseband down to 14.0
I’d say that’s pretty rare given the time difference
vestal umbra
Hi, I'm trying to use futurerestore for the first time and I have my blobs saved w/ tssaver but I don't understand why there are two .shsh2 files in the directory for each iOS version I have blobs saved for, futurerestore is asking for only one file but I have two shsh2 files to choose from, both .shsh2 files have the exact same timestamp but the file names are different
Can I just select either file to point futurerestore at?
maiden citrus
iirc do noapnonce for a11 and lower, normal one for a12+
futurerestore should tell you anyway if you select the wrong one
vestal umbra
Icic, well that's the thing I don't see a way to distinguish between which is noapnonce and the other...so theres the 14.5.1 folder on my tssaver and then just two shsh2 files with different hashes in the file names
I guess if futurerestore checks that I can trial and error but it would be nice to know how to tell which is which to be safer
I'd rather not risk it and just know which one to select tbh
vestal umbra
Ah I think I figured out the difference, one shsh2 file is using the jailbroken nonce generator set by my jailbreak app and the other shsh2 file is using the nonce generator value that was probably from before the jailbreak app set the new nonce generator value
I think in this case I probably want the one that was set by my jailbreak app
maiden citrus
yup
slate elm
Could anyone help me downgrade my Iphone 11 IOS V.14.7.1 A13 to 14.3
maiden citrus
you cannot
maiden citrus
no
valid adder
You need blobs and a jailbreak to downgrade to unsigned versions @slate elm
slate elm
Well can anyone point me to a tutorial
valid adder
!t blobs
valid adder
Tutorial
fresh coral
I am trying to reinstall iOS 14.4 on iPhone X using my onboard ota blobs with pwned dfu mode and I get the following error:
what=getting keys failed with error: 13697039 (failed to get FirmwareJson from Server). Are keys publicly available?
code=30015505
line=458
file=futurerestore.cpp
commit count=194:
commit sha =0ab9df3209ee599f581532d05d331e6abe0f53f3:
Done: restoring failed!
I run futurerestore with this command
./futurerestore-v194 --use-pwndfu -t blob.shsh2 --latest-sep --latest-baseband iPhone10,3,iPhone10,6_14.4_18D52_Restore.ipsw
valid adder
@fresh coral run the wiki proxy script in the background
fresh coral
Sorry I can't find it, where can I get it?
valid adder
fresh coral
thank you
timid pollen
Can I downgrade from iOS 14.7 to 14.6 on a12+ if I’m not jailbroken
valid adder
Jailbreak is required 100% of the time @timid pollen
queen halo
probably a dumb question, for an a12 device do you still need a jailbreak to downgrade with known nonce + generator gotten with blobsaver? confusing information, thanks
valid adder
the only reason jailbreak is needed is to set bootnonce to match the apnonce in the blob
jailbreak is not required to save blobs at all
@queen halo
queen halo
okay, so even if i used blobsaver, to use the blob i need a jailbreak, correct?
tidal crane
is ios 15 sep compatible with ios 14.5.1 sep?
valid adder
!t sepbb
valid adder
is ios 15 sep compatible with ios 14.5.1 sep?
yes
zealous bridge
you cant
hoary sphinx
why
zealous bridge
.
hoary sphinx
oh damn
okay
shit
lol
had these 13.3.1 blobs for ages just found them and cant use them
damn
gray tangle
I'm affected by this FR issue https://github.com/m1stadev/futurerestore/issues/34 No response from developers except adjusting my issue title. is it really hopeless?
radiant mountain
Should I futurerestore to 14.5.1 now if I have blobs ? In case iOS 15 sep aren’t compatible anymore
I’m on 14.4.2 A12
Is this the only method to go from 14.4.2 to 14.5.1 too ? Thanks for answering
plain mist
shut the fuck up bitch
gray tangle
Should I futurerestore to 14.5.1 now if I have blobs ? In case iOS 15 sep aren’t...
yop still have time until 14.8 is unsigned. TIL: FR accepts only full paths not relative file paths or else gives error on firmwares.json, keep that in mind when you'll -s and -m
radiant mountain
yop still have time until 14.8 is unsigned. TIL: FR accepts only full paths not ...
I’ve been told that since I’m on A12, I need a jb in order to futurestore
And I doubt 14.8 will still be signed by the time a jb for 14.3+ A12 will be released
gray tangle
if you're neither jb nor checkra1nable then you don't even think about FR
tribal dove
if i have blobs for various 14.x versions should i update to 15?
ik i need a jb to downgrade
brisk narwhal
Not sure if this is the right place, but I'm trying to save my blobs and for my iPhone 11 Pro Max in BlobSaver, I get this serror
for my other device saved in blobsaver it's fine
zealous bridge
what version
brisk narwhal
blobsaver is on latest version it says
zealous bridge
open a github issue
brisk narwhal
I'll just use TSS Saver instead
on the JB'd phone
the only reason I have blobsaver tbh is that my other device is unjailbroken so can't run TSS Saver
mild mural
Anyone tried FRing with 15 sep and bb to 14?
ancient wraith
When I try to save the blob it keeps coming up as “The iOS version is not being signed for device iPhone12,1”
I’m trying to save iOS 15
ancient wraith
How do I fix this?
zealous bridge
Ahh I know the problem
@soft turtle update the tsschecker fork in blobsaver
you need cryptics latest commit for iOS 15 suppor
@brisk narwhal @ancient wraith fix should be out soon hopefully
ancient wraith
Alright
stiff hazel
@zealous bridge good afternoon Tanbeer, how is iOS 15 and sep and baseband
zealous bridge
Should be fine, RC was compatible
stiff hazel
Should be fine, RC was compatible
I mean we've seen shit break between RC and final (see: 14.3 A10(X) checkra1n)
zealous bridge
Was that do with sep/baseband
stiff hazel
might've been blackbird related maybe? Don't entirely know
stiff hazel
iOS 14 is staying signed
are we sure?
zealous bridge
…
We were sure since WWDC
iOS 15’s feature list quotes:
“iOS now offers a choice between two software update versions in the Settings app. You can update to the latest version of iOS 15 as soon as it's released for the latest features and most complete set of security updates. Or continue on iOS 14 and still get important security updates until you're ready to upgrade to the next major version."
Edit: Source
stiff hazel
might stay signed OTA but I mean I bet that'll run into issues in the future
zealous bridge
Sep and baseband are both available in the OTA zip
stiff hazel
ok then
zealous bridge
Doubt they’ll unsign IPSWs anyway
iron wagon
on windows it says unable to go to recovery mode from normal mode
zealous bridge
Enter recovery yourself
zealous bridge
!t ibec
iron wagon
lmao I never can get the good version of itunes to install
zealous bridge
Why not
zealous bridge
Ok ignore that step, if you do everything else and it still doesn’t work then boot linux
zealous bridge
Linux Build should work on arch and arch base ootb
iron wagon
iron wagon
Linux Build should work on arch and arch base ootb
omg thanks
where can i get a linux version
zealous bridge
!t futurerestore
mystic axleBOT
!t futurerestore
iron wagon
it says macOS, ubuntu, and windows
zealous bridge
Should work on arch
iron wagon
ohhh i see the beta
zealous bridge
glibc is newer anyway
iron wagon
same commands as windows?
iron wagon
and latest SEP works with 14.2?
zealous bridge
!t sepbb
zealous bridge
find your device
neon blade
so is 15.0 sep compatible with the same versions?
gloomy ore
It exists a method to downgrade to not signed SEP (for example, downgrade to iOS 13 in ios 14 with shsh and checkm8) ???
gloomy ore
Or Is it expected to be able to use a SEP from an old iOS in order to use futurerestore without this limitation in the future ?
zealous bridge
It exists a method to downgrade to not signed SEP (for example, downgrade to iOS...
no
sep has to be signed
gloomy ore
sep has to be signed
And Is it expected to be able to use a SEP from an old iOS in order to use futurerestore without this limitation in the future ?
gloomy ore
But in the future with the checkm8 exploit… I listen about something like that the last year… a posible sep-rom hack
😔
narrow snow
Can I use future restore to downgrade a un-jailbroke device from 14.7.1 to 14.3?
narrow snow
iPhone XR and no I don’t.
zealous bridge
Then no
narrow snow
Ah ok
zealous bridge
You need a jailbreak and blobs to downgrade
zealous bridge
Not without those two like I just said
valid adder
Listening can be helpful
soft turtle
<@416760227778527232> update the tsschecker fork in blobsaver
Just confirming, 1Conan's fork is the most up-to-date one?
zealous bridge
Yes
soft turtle
oh so should I wait then?
valid adder
@soft turtle if you know someone with an a13 device I need their help to grab some files
then I can debug a fix
valid adder
I just need the 14.8 restore files
theres how
@soft turtle nevermind
the SE 2 works with 352
I need a13 files for one thats actually failing
valid adder
@soft turtle if it fails with 352 thats what I need
@soft turtle looks like all iPhone13,X models fail so we are gold for this
soft turtle
ok I'll do that
@valid adder so just to be clear it'll create that PersonalizedBundle directory as soon as it enters recovery mode
valid adder
yeh
soft turtle
Ok
I just realized I'll need to disable find my iphone for that and don't have time for that rn, so I'll do it later today
soft turtle
to restore
unless I update but I'm already on the latest version
will option clicking update work?
and selecting an ipsw to update
valid adder
you aren't restoring tho just grabbing a plist
soft turtle
For blobsaver at least atm I don’t need update 352, I’ll just bundle the v351 tsschecker
storm egret
Does anyone know if it's possible to downgrade my iPhone 8 to iOS 11.2? It's on 15 beta right now but I do have blobs
I've never used futurerestore before so any help is appreciated
valid adder
yeh 351 is safe
but yah I still need test when u have time
@storm egret you can't even go below 14.3 on a11
valid adder
sep
soft turtle
<@416760227778527232> update the tsschecker fork in blobsaver
Fixed it now in v3.0.3
old coral
Is the public release version of iOS 15’s sep and baseband compatible with iOS 14 for downgrading later on?
errant socket
rustic blaze
please cant understand
valid adder
@rustic blaze shsh.host clearly isn't updated with my iOS 15 fix
the common issues states that you need to use 1conan tsschecker
rustic blaze
i am talking of tss checker web site
valid adder
like we said multiple times its not updated to work for 15
tidal crane
when would ios 14.8 get unsigned?
ios 14.7.1 just got unsigned
asking because I would like to restore to 14.5.1 with 14.8 sep, asap and at the right time.
valid adder
next year @tidal crane
old coral
14.8 will get unsigned in about 3-4 weeks.
You’ll receive security updates but they won’t be a 14.8.x Update rather they’ll be a patch. And they won’t require for iOS 14.8 to be signed
simple hornet
Is ios 14.3 sep/bb compatible with that of ios 15? Would like to save blobs for it for future upgrade?
old coral
iOS 15 RC is compatible but I don’t know about public release
valid adder
14.8 will get unsigned in about 3-4 weeks.
You’ll receive security updates but ...
pretty sure 14.8 is the security patch and it will remain signed for the next year
plain mist
u fucking suck
normal trellis
is ios 15's sep compatible with 14.4.2
reef sand
Hi everyone
I’m trying to futurerestore from iOS 14.7.1 to 14.5.1 on an iPhone X, and I’m using macOS
Futurerestore says the SEP firmware is not being signed at the moment
(While trying the latest SEP and BB)
Then I try with the iOS 14.8 SEP manually, but when it asks me to give him the BuildManifest file, I can’t find it, nor can the telegram jailbreak bot
vestal umbra
Currently on unc0ver and wanting to futurerestore upgrade to 14.5.1...in looking at the flags in futurerestore I see this one:
-u, --update
Update instead of erase install (requires appropriate APTicket)
DO NOT use this parameter, if you update from jailbroken firmware!
As you can see it says DO NOT use this if you update from jailbroken firmware...but my question is...since I can't use this while futurerestoring an already jailbroken phone does that mean futurerestore defaults to wiping my phone completely and upgrading to 14.5.1 or does it preserve data somehow since I'm already jailbroken?
So I guess just confirming if you're already jailbroken you're forced to erase/wipe install to upgrade w/ future restore?
Would it be better to just remove my unc0ver JB w/ Restore RootFS and then use the -u option if I don't want to fully wipe to upgrade?
vagrant sonnet
Extract iOS 15 RC sep and bb
Tried right now but still fails with "SEP firmware is NOT being signed!"
fringe owl
I’m trying to futurerestore from iOS 14.7.1 to 14.5.1 on an iPhone X, and I’m us...
You use —latest-sep&baseband ? Try it with the 14.8 SEP/Baseband files
vagrant sonnet
What about SEP / Baseband from iOS 15 Beta?
vagrant sonnet
What about SEP / Baseband from iOS 15 Beta?
Okay no. Doesn't work either. Still "SEP firmware is NOT being signed!".
zealous bridge
Okay no. Doesn't work either. Still "SEP firmware is NOT being signed!".
They should be signed, are you sure you’re using the correct manifest
vagrant sonnet
As for the manifest, I took it from the main dir of the ipsw. Called "BuildManifest.plist"
So, restoring to 14.5.1 from 14.8 using 14.8 SEP / Baseband for iPhone X (10,6) results in this error:
ERROR: can't locate 'psi_ram.bin' in 'C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff000000022'
Baseband: ✓ Mav17-6.71.01.Release.bbfw
SEP: sep-firmware.d221.RELEASE.im4p
Latest SEP / Baseband option doesn't work. So I'm really unable to downgrade.
zealous bridge
So, restoring to 14.5.1 from 14.8 using 14.8 SEP / Baseband for iPhone X (10,6) ...
what’s the user called, does it have non-English letters
vagrant sonnet
So idk why but it is looking for and user called GIANMA~1 while the user is "Gianmarco"
vagrant sonnet
I know. It didn't make sense to me either so
zealous bridge
As in
Your sentence made no sense
You said the user is called something while the user is called something else
vagrant sonnet
So, restoring to 14.5.1 from 14.8 using 14.8 SEP / Baseband for iPhone X (10,6) ...
So. The log inside FutureRestore looks for this file.
The problem is that my User on Windows is called "Gianmarco".
While on the log (inside FutureRestore) he is looking for that file NOT inside the "Gianmarco" folder, but inside the "GIANMA~1"
Basically a user that doesn't exist
I hope you got me bro
zealous bridge
Can you open C:\Users in File Explorer and show me what’s there
vagrant sonnet
Yup. That is right. I mean, during the whole process he's looking in the right directory. Nearly the very end of the process he's looking for this psi_ram.bin file in a TEMP folder inside a User directory that doesn't exist.
Give me a sec.
vagrant sonnet
Look:
ERROR: can't locate 'psi_ram.bin' in 'C:\Users\GIANMA~1\AppData\Local\Temp\ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff000000562'
ERROR: Unable to send baseband data
ERROR: Unable to successfully restore device
GIANMA~1
While the user is Gianmarco.
Don't get it..
But, if I do paste that "address" inside File Explorer it successfully takes me into the Gianmarco directory
vagrant sonnet
Idk how tf I fixed it
):
plain mist
fuck GIANMA~1
vagrant sonnet
yup
Anyways just fyi: my boardConfig is D221AP.
Correctly setted nonce to the one in the blob.
I used Baseband / SEP from 14.8.
Baseband: Mav17-6.71.01.Release.bbfw
SEP: sep-firmware.d221.RELEASE.im4p
BuildManifest: BuildManifest.plist
So everything should be as normal, but still.
Wish I could use latest SEP / Baseband but FutureRestore says they're not signed (while they are).
Now flashing clean 14.8. Hope this can be sorted out tho.
ancient wraith
If I had a shsh2 blob saved with a APNounce, and now I have a different APNounce, will that blob still be usable?
celest basalt
Anyways just fyi: my boardConfig is D221AP.
Correctly setted nonce to the one in...
same issue.
vagrant sonnet
okay so i'm not the only one. also you missing that file?
celest basalt
no
i got the sep unsigned issue
@vagrant sonnet can u send ur sep and baseband files please
mine won't work for some reason.
i'll try it with yours
zealous bridge
I think you guys are using futurerestore with the old tsschecker that doesn’t support iOS 15 @celest basalt @vagrant sonnet
celest basalt
I think you guys are using futurerestore with the old tsschecker that doesn’t su...
i'm not going to 15 though...
zealous bridge
are you specifying 15 sep/baseband
vagrant sonnet
are you specifying 15 sep/baseband
I used 14.8 SEP / Baseband for going from 14.8 to 14.5.1
vagrant sonnet
Anyways just fyi: my boardConfig is D221AP.
Correctly setted nonce to the one in...
for me it says this 😦
vagrant sonnet
Look:
ERROR: can't locate 'psi_ram.bin' in 'C:\Users\GIANMA~1\AppData\Local\Tem...
this**
vagrant sonnet
no macOS here. Is ubuntu live installation good?
zealous bridge
yes
vagrant sonnet
Aight will probably try tomorrow.
Thanks 🙂
celest basalt
w
vagrant sonnet
Is this good? @zealous bridge
zealous bridge
yes
vagrant sonnet
sadly i can't use my 15.0 backup on 14.3 :c
yea i got fucked up at that too lol
anyways @celest basalt did you save blobs for which iOS version?
also, tsschecker?
celest basalt
195 isn't prehistoric?
zealous bridge
this is 189
zealous bridge
zealous bridge
Hmm
Quite concerning if both of you got the same error, but I haven’t seen anything else reported
vagrant sonnet
cause we are the first reporting that xD
nah jk i think maybe ios 15 sep / baseband dont work no more?
for <=ios 14.8
celest basalt
i'll try with 194
zealous bridge
nah jk i think maybe ios 15 sep / baseband dont work no more?
are you using iOS 15 sep/baseband
zealous bridge
!t futurerestore
mystic axleBOT
!t futurerestore
zealous bridge
same error btw?
celest basalt
same error btw?
yes
zealous bridge
I don’t think baseband is incompat, but futurerestore can’t find a file for some reason
celest basalt
omg i got the black screen issue again
luckily i'm a professional iPX dfu enterer
vagrant sonnet
Yes regardless of the baseband/SEP (15.0 / 14.8) I cant restore.
For 15.0 its an issue where FutureRestore complains about SEP not being signed.
For 14.8 it’s the error about the missing file.
zealous bridge
15.0 doesn’t work because of the tsschecker being outdated
(you’re using 194 which is outdated)
14.8 no idea why that’s happening
celest basalt
2.0.0 same error
vagrant sonnet
(you’re using 194 which is outdated)
So maybe new version can work with 15 SEP?
zealous bridge
it should
vagrant sonnet
So maybe new version can work with 15 SEP?
Did you try @celest basalt ?
zealous bridge
the RC was compatible
celest basalt
So maybe new version can work with 15 SEP?
i'll try
vagrant sonnet
the RC was compatible
I tried that also with 194 but obv doesnt work
zealous bridge
Yeah it won’t work
vagrant sonnet
trying --latest-sep with 2.0
U mean the beta futurerestore?
celest basalt
yes
vagrant sonnet
Okok👌🏻
vagrant sonnet
ay
zealous bridge
post log
celest basalt
zealous bridge
enable ––debug and send again please
vagrant sonnet
zealous bridge
which is the link in the tag…
vagrant sonnet
Yea yea just saying lol.
I mean even with fixes , no luck
@celest basalt can you try with 14.8 SEP on 2.0?
vagrant urchin
Do you need the blobs of your current software version to use futurestore?
celest basalt
no
valid adder
I never updated tsschecker tho
@soft turtle I temporarily reverted the airtag commit, I'll fix it when I get the files, you can update blobsaver to 356
@celest basalt uggh tsschecker is now somehow broken for d221ap
I need you do some things for me to be able to fix it
celest basalt
yes but you cancel it before restore even starts
uhhh sure
valid adder
@celest basalt do the thing in the message link
full osprey
I can just unplug instead of updating right?
valid adder
yep
basically unplug as soon as you see the folder in tmp
and copy the folder to not tmp
fringe owl
i save it with the tsschecker from 1conan from this link
full osprey
The personalized folder is created during the restore right? Cause I dont have it in tmp
fringe owl
i save my blobs from 15.0 for an iPhoneXs works fine
valid adder
yes it should happen around the time it enters recovery @full osprey
full osprey
Alrighty, lastly should I reboot into stock first?
valid adder
don't think it matters
full osprey
bet gonna start rn
mystic axleBOT
!jumbo <:facepalm:357626129420386304>
wicked ibex
am i able to use future restore on non-jailbroken devices?
valid adder
nope
wicked ibex
well rip
full osprey
shit it has to download 15 real quick
valid adder
the one requirement is the device's apnonce needs to match the apnonce in your blob @wicked ibex
full osprey
about 6 min
valid adder
unless you are god you need a jailbreak
full osprey
lol my bad I just realized you explained everything and I asked all the same qs
valid adder
we all have been saying not to update for years man lol @wicked ibex
wicked ibex
we all have been saying not to update for years man lol <@!363822925985349634>
yea but i mean all i use is altstore but even that broke
well, hopefully it gets fixed soon
valid adder
@full osprey no problem its a stupid system so its hard to understand
celest basalt
the one requirement is the device's apnonce needs to match the apnonce in your b...
nonce collision 
valid adder
a7 moment
@full osprey im so sorry to do this but it has to be 14.8
because a13 already works on 15
sand coral
am i able to future restore? im unjailbroken on ios 14.7.1, iphone 11, i have 14.4.1 and 14.5 blobs saved
valid adder
jailbreak has always been a requirement to utilize blobs @sand coral
sand coral
fudge really
valid adder
yes really
valid adder
correct
sand coral
💔
valid adder
guess you need stock 
celest basalt
<@456226577798135808> doesn't matter for a11
ik
full osprey
Yeah, ill restore rootfs
valid adder
not sure why jailbreak would prevent apple restore
full osprey
nope still doing it
I legit cannot restore
even with dfu
this shit
ill try to rejb then succession
shy magnet
vale ocean
nope still doing it
humble musk
nextdns?
vale ocean
full osprey
Ill try a diff network
valid adder
full osprey
what im checking for?
full osprey
full osprey
Succession froze after downloading and “preparing”
full osprey
idk how to fix it lol
celest basalt
@valid adder i can do it with a 6s if u need
valid adder
needs to be d221ap because thats what is broken lol @celest basalt
u aren't restoring
just getting the tss request
full osprey
I tried restoring , succession, restoring rootfs and restoring , erasing all contents and settings
nothing worked, sorry fam
unless I used the wrong succession maybe?
celest basalt
needs to be d221ap because thats what is broken lol <@456226577798135808>
okay i'll do it tonight or tomorrow
@valid adder can i use idevicerestore?
also do i just need 15.0 cuz i have that downloaded already
valid adder
nooooo
bruh
we aren't restoring
we are getting an official apple tssrequest
thats the entire point
celest basalt
we are getting an official apple tssrequest
yeah but i need to restore with itunes
if i restore can i use the 15.0 ipsw then cancel
with finder
valid adder
thats the entire point, finder
celest basalt
kk
humble musk
nothing worked, sorry fam
did you try erase content and settings from your device
full osprey
yes
full osprey
ur snapshots are probably very broken
its probably this
humble musk
yeah but a dfu restore not working?
full osprey
nope, gave the same error
humble musk
yeah i know that but i don’t think that relies on snapshots
full osprey
which is why I thought it was network like yall was saying but I tried 2 networks, 2 cables
full osprey
Lol I can record it all if anyone wants to see
celest basalt
it's probably finder yeah
full osprey
Could it be due to monterey?
valid adder
fr?
celest basalt
yeah
lemme put in on gdrive rn
it'll be there in like 2-3 minutes
uploading
@valid adder ok
lmk if it's good
seems that the request/response are there 
valid adder
seems corrupt
celest basalt
huh
valid adder
valid adder
rsync 💪
celest basalt
gonna use gdrive ig
rocky light
Hey!
If I want to downgrade from 14.7.1 to 14.5.1, can I still do it?
Or is it too late?
valid adder
you need blobs and a jailbreak to downgrade
valid adder
nothing has changed
rocky light
So I don’t have to do anything in the sep and bb section on future restore?
valid adder
use latest
rocky light
Okay, thx
valid adder
dont manually specify
rocky light
Just one last question, can I use the -upgrade option if I’m downgrading? (I don’t want to lose my data)
valid adder
and use beta futurerestore
rocky light
and use beta futurerestore
Why the beta?
valid adder
I highly doubt update works for downgrade
rocky light
I highly doubt update works for downgrade
Ohh… okay thx
valid adder
because beta works better in most cases
rocky light
because beta works better in most cases
Okay, I’ll install it
Thank you for your help
tender sun
can I downgrade from 14.7.x to 14.5 using checkrain and 14.5 blobs?
valid adder
yep
rocky light
Can I restore a 14.7.1 backup on 14.5.1?
vagrant sonnet
Can I restore a 14.7.1 backup on 14.5.1?
Nope
Save your backup on PC, restore it through iTunes when on 14.5.1
You can’t use a backup from a higher iOS version
zealous bridge
Can I restore a 14.7.1 backup on 14.5.1?
Yes
vagrant sonnet
F
rocky light
Save your backup on PC, restore it through iTunes when on 14.5.1
But I didn’t have a backup back then🥲
vagrant sonnet
I personally went from 15.0 to 14.8 and couldn’t restore my iCloud backup
zealous bridge
It won’t work for 14.5 and below tho
rocky light
I personally went from 15.0 to 14.8 and couldn’t restore my iCloud backup
Yeah ofc this won’t work
zealous bridge
iCloud backup won’t work, iTunes will
rocky light
iCloud backup won’t work, iTunes will
So if I future restore, I won’t lose ma data right?
(If I can restore with a backup)
zealous bridge
Yes
rocky light
Okayy thank you!
vagrant sonnet
anyways did we understand why d221ap fails? tsschecker?
valid adder
@vagrant sonnet no idea
vagrant sonnet
): hopefully it can be sorted out soon
valid adder
@vagrant sonnet figured it out but not how to fix it
plain mist
unless I used the wrong succession maybe?
did u not use the beta one
this is why someone should fork succession (😉)
valid adder
@celest basalt wait tsschecker works fine idk why it failed for your x
@vagrant sonnet turns out its not broken so just a glitch
civic flint
I have Iphone 11 pro max 13.5, Can I use futurerestore to update to 14.2 ( Also I have the blobs ) ?
plain mist
the restore should work
vagrant sonnet
<@!443772373083357184> turns out its not broken so just a glitch
well it happened to me and @celest basalt
So basically the whole procedure works but there’s somewhere a glitch which prevents it from finishing?
vagrant sonnet
C:\Users\User\AppData\Local\Temp\ and C:\Temp u mean?
vagrant sonnet
like I said
and sorry i didn’t see your message :p
valid adder
yes
not all
just firmwares.json and futurerestore folder in temp
oh wait
windows version wont work with iOS 15 sep
vagrant sonnet
windows version wont work with iOS 15 sep
F
vagrant sonnet
what=ERROR: Unable to get signing tickets for SEP
I think this is D221AP with latest SEP on beta futurerestore on Linux
vagrant sonnet
valid adder
yep
vagrant sonnet
aight will try with live ubuntu installation, since I don't have dual boot
valid adder
make sure it says 242 before you restore
vagrant sonnet
make sure it says 242 before you restore
👌 . Noob question: Can i use this futurerestore in the FutureRestore GUI app?
like manually selecting futurerestore-v2.0.0-test
valid adder
possibly with the beta
vagrant sonnet
yea sure
valid adder
let me check
vagrant sonnet
yep
valid adder
@vagrant sonnet so go to settings and enable beta, then click download
it will download the beta
vagrant sonnet
noice
not for Windows tho, says can't find a proper beta asset for my OS
so only Linux ig
vagrant sonnet
lol i feel you tbh
valid adder
libimobiledevice api updated, its just hard to figure out on windows
rocky light
windows will come soon
so I can't future restore right now if I'm on windows?
valid adder
@rocky light you would have to manually specify 14.8 sep bb
valid adder
which device do u have
valid adder
n66ap or n66map
rocky light
1 min
valid adder
thats something you can't just forget
rocky light
N66mAP
valid adder
you need it when saving blobs lol
vagrant sonnet
<@!484451367805517826> you would have to manually specify 14.8 sep bb
anyways i did try this one, but fails with the missing file. Don't know if it's the iPhone X, Windows or FutureRestore (194)
rocky light
you need it when saving blobs lol
for what? Im sry I'm just a noob here
rocky light
but it saves automatically
valid adder
Im saying if manually
rocky light
so my blobs are usless?
rocky light
these are from 14.8?
valid adder
yep
vagrant sonnet
yuh
valid adder
--sep sep-firmware.n66m.RELEASE.im4p --sep-manifest BuildManifest.plist --baseband Mav13-8.80.01.Release.bbfw --baseband-manifest BuildManifest.plist
I sent the correct files no need to worry
rocky light
oh, I have the gui futurerestore
valid adder
@vagrant sonnet whats your computer username
rocky light
does the gui work?