Can you still FutureRestore from 12.4 to 13.3?
#futurerestore-help
sage briar
You cannot
celest basalt
Hey, i‘ve got. an iPhone 11 pro can i Update my iPhone to an unsigned Firmware?
full osprey
No
somber dock
Can i downgrade
My ios with the help of jailbreak?
full osprey
Which device and iOS
somber dock
Iphone 7 ios 13.4
full osprey
No
full osprey
Appstore++ worked last I checked
somber dock
Dont work on ios 13.4
summer marsh
It got updated not long ago I think
agile veldt
No
full osprey
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
valid adder
Need blobs
full osprey
^
cinder flume
rick plz just repost that every hour
valid adder
lock the channel and people need to react to acknowledge the message in order to type
then repost the message every hour
agile veldt
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
cinder flume
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
full osprey
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
sage briar
Repeating is a mother of wisdom ^^
But I think that whole futurerestore channel is now worthless cuz any effective a benefitable restore cannot be done this time
To 13.3 and below impossible and for 12 there is checkra1n for devices ended by iOS 12
And staying with A12/A13 on 12 is very strange
ancient grotto
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
full osprey
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
sage briar
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
agile veldt
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
heady yew
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
full osprey
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
cinder flume
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
tall siren
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
celest basalt
one sec
worldly mirage
♥️
celest basalt
@worldly mirage iirc it doesn't matter
worldly mirage
wut does iirc mean
celest basalt
if i remember correctly
valid adder
read chat
celest basalt
im not a futurerestore god
valid adder
@worldly mirage read the message right above your screenshot
worldly mirage
"Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device"
valid adder
you can't go below 13.4
worldly mirage
Even with the blobs...
worldly mirage
So no 12.4 to 13.3
valid adder
13.3.1 was the last sep compatible with 13.0-13.3.1
correct
only 13.4(with blobs) or 13.4.1
worldly mirage
wtf
valid adder
you missed it
worldly mirage
Why would I have 13.4.1 sep
Wasn't there this whole ordeal with CheckRa1n exploit that allowed iphone x and below to upgrade/downgrade anything.
worldly mirage
;-;
valid adder
have to flash the sep every restore
worldly mirage
So what is the point of futurestore if you still cannot upgrade past a certain point
valid adder
bruh
you could have gone to 13.3 for months
13.3.1 was signed for a long time after 13.3 was no longer signed
sep will always be in the way of 64bit restoring
sep needs to be signed and compatible with the iOS you are restoring too
this has always been a thing
celest basalt
Except for iPhone 6
worldly mirage
I guess i could go to 13.4.1 and use checkra1m :/
celest basalt
But the iPhone 5s only supports going to 10.3.3
cinder flume
when we post the message 50 times and people still dont read it
celest basalt
The 6 goes from 11.3? - 12.4.5
valid adder
a7 can go to 10.2-10.3.3 a7-a8 can go to 11.3-12.4.6 all using blobs
celest basalt
A7 to 10.3.3 without blobs
worldly mirage
How's the stability of checkrain?
valid adder
u0 still better with a11
valid adder
worldly mirage
yeah I had an uptime of 98 days
valid adder
13.3 a11
worldly mirage
but im on ios 12 :/
celest basalt
That’s not healthy
valid adder
kernel alloc bug
worldly mirage
is pwn still working on latest versions of ios?
valid adder
wym?
celest basalt
Realistically you should reboot every couple days
valid adder
there's no exploit
valid adder
how can he
celest basalt
He’s not a security reasearcher
valid adder
Exploits are made, not found. Vulnerabilities are found. Exploits are made to exploit said vulnerabilities.
worldly mirage
You still know what I meant though.
worldly mirage
mmhm
valid adder
shouldn't be mixed up tbh
I can't confirm nor deny anything for u0
just wait and see
worldly mirage
Just don't know if I should stick with ios 12.4 u0 and possibly wait for new vulnerabilities, or jump to 13.4.1 checkrain
celest basalt
Use Checkra1n
celest basalt
You can use Checkra1n and unc0ver
worldly mirage
my device resprings all the time and I have very few tweaks that should be causing it. Its getting annoying.
worldly mirage
Use checkrain and uncover what?
valid adder
yep
worldly mirage
ill try it for a bit.
valid adder
probably just need to install substrate vs substitute
celest basalt
worldly mirage
I thought uncover used substrate
celest basalt
They both do
valid adder
u0 only uses substrate on 11.x now
valid adder
substrate doesn't show up on my a11
celest basalt
Substitute is only used on A12 and A13
worldly mirage
my ipx says substrate is installed
weird, just re jailbroke with uncover and all my apps insta crash
fun
-.-
worldly mirage
mine says Cydia substrate
worldly mirage
im on 3.7.0
worldly mirage
ight ill download 4.3.1 and sign it
wonder if my cert is still active
nope apple revoked it, ah well got a few more
valid adder
I just have my own dev acc
worldly mirage
yee ik mine already sent me new one
worldly mirage
nice
valid adder
and ota install too
valid adder
guess its actually an iOS dependent thing then
worldly mirage
¯_(ツ)_/¯
valid adder
you can patch the check but its hard
worldly mirage
wtf every app is still crashing
this started after backing up device
how could that cause this
or try to solve the issue
valid adder
rootfs restore?
valid adder
tf
worldly mirage
@valid adder gives option to use substitute or substrate
valid adder
substitute is better imo
worldly mirage
Less crashes or?
valid adder
more stable yah
worldly mirage
Is zebra blocked with substitute
celest basalt
No
worldly mirage
Just switched and the repo won’t load, interesting
Nvm ignore me
@valid adder what tweak do you use to hide jailbreak for snap with substitute
worldly mirage
So I have to downgrade? I was on latest version with substrate
full osprey
@sullen talon Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
sullen talon
i have backup so no problem but ok thanks for telling me that the SEP is not compatible @full osprey
celest basalt
I can not get futurerestore to work with my iPhone 6
I’m using blobs dumped with deverser
And the futurerestore binary distributed with vieux (as per MatthewPiersons instructions)
I have also tried using my futurerestore binary
With Matthew’s the screen will get to the point that it sends the kernelcache but then reboots
With my binary it will fail to put the device in recovery, and when put in recovery before the restore it will fail to send iBEC
cursive iron
Can you still FutureRestore from 12.4 to 13.3? If so, which SEP? Please reply with a ping, thank you
sage briar
@cursive iron Short answer: No
sage briar
I did while 13.3.1 was being signed on my two devices
cursive iron
Yeah I wanted to but
Didn't really have the motivation
And afaik, you can't use CheckRa1n on a Windows computer
I don't know how emulators/virtual machines work but oh well
sage briar
bootra1n is good method for windows user, not much effort needed
cursive iron
That's for Linux, correct? That would work through a VM?
sage briar
VM dont work
cursive iron
Ohh, my bad
sage briar
bootra1n is for windows
valid adder
they don't work
sage briar
solution how to run checkra1n on win
cursive iron
Is there any key difference between checkra1n and bootra1n?
Looking at the jailbreak itself
valid adder
bootra1n is a void linux distro with checkra1n preinstalled
its no a jailbreak
just a modded os
sage briar
bootra1n will install checkra1n JB
cursive iron
On bootra1n itself
valid adder
fuck are you talking about
cursive iron
Okay okay. Sorry I haven't really followed the jailbreak lately
valid adder
checkra1n is the jailbreak
its a full jailbreak
bootra1n has nothing to do with it
checkra1n is a computer jailbreak
bootra1n is a modded void linux distro with the computer jailbreak checkra1n preinstalled
I don't see what tweak injection has to do with anything
cursive iron
Well, I don't know what I'm talking about either since I haven't followed checkra1n and anything associated with that, I'm sorry
valid adder
yw
fathom hawk
I got blobs with a manually specific apnonce because I have an A13 device, do I have to change the boot nonce in unc0ver?
sage briar
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
shut coral
no it will not wipe your device!
valid adder
wat
shut coral
thomas wrote fr would wipe your device... thats simply not true
sage briar
That is true
celest basalt
can anyone help me i ran icleaner pro awhile back and alot of tweaks broke and i had been using unc0ver 4.3.0 instead of 4.3.1 and so i decided to update my phone and i still had constant crashes so i ran rootfs and reset cydia cache through unc0ver and then i installed some of the same tweaks and they still don't work so i was recommended to install succession and run it to get rid of the jailbreak so i can restart fresh so i did that and then i installed some tweaks and they still don't work and now i don't know what to do also btw i don't think succession worked because when i ran it and it said restore succeeded my phone didn't restart/reboot like it was supposed to and instead it goes into this blackscreen and when i quit out of succession i look back onto where its at on my home screen and its gone and im no longer jailbroken and all my info/data is there and i was told that it was supposed to get rid of EVERYTHING and thats why you were supposed to keep a backup of your iphone so you can enter into it that way you don't lose any data BUT i didn't even have to do that i still kept all my photos/apps/data nothing seemed to change besides the succession app being deleted and my phone no longer being in a jailbroken so with that being said is there anyway to either fix my phone and its problems or any other way of deleting every little trace of jailbreaking my iphone while still keeping the ios version im on that way i can rejailbreak my phone like ive never even jailbroken my phone to begin with and not have to worry about having issues later on btw i have an iphone xs max and my ios version is 13.3
shut coral
you got a fuckton of misinformation...
sucession CAN clean your device from everything but it also can only clean your rootfs
seems that you just cleaned your rootfs.
that means you have not cleaned the media partition of your phone with your photos, music and every other data
@celest basalt if you want to clean your phone completely, rejailbreak and run sucession with no active settings
celest basalt
before i rejailbreak should i reset cydia cache and run rootfs one last time or should just rejailbreak and run sucession @shut coral also thanks for helping me
shut coral
i thought your not jailbroken anymore?
celest basalt
i rejailbroke just now to see if anything would happen and it seems still broken lol
shut coral
your tweaks are still there?
celest basalt
no i reinstalled some
shut coral
so sucession worked...
just run it again and have a look on the settings
oh and take backup before you do it
celest basalt
well yes and no cause i ran the rootfs and resetcache thing before i even looked into succession so that got rid of my tweaks and also im just gonna redo the succession thing like you said
okay im downloading succession once again and im already jailbroken ill get back to you once im done with the whole process again
Btw before I run secession these are my succession setting btw just Incase you needed to know
shut coral
with theese settings it should delete everything from your device
minor lodge
Hi, I currently have a 13.1.3 iphonexs max, i want to update to 13.3 but I dont have the SSH blobs, is that still possible?
half shuttle
No
full osprey
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
celest basalt
@shut coral when my phone finished restarting i installed some tweaks and there settings were saved like how i put them i thought this was supposed to delete everything including the settings of tweaks
can anyone please just tell me how to delete every little trace of jailbreaking my iphone while keeping the same ios version that way i can 100% without a shadow of a doubt gurantee that i am jailbreaking my phone like if i were new to jailbreaking
if this means deleting stuff manually i will do it just explain to me how and i will do it
real templeBOT
celest basalt
i already used succession
and it didn't work
i still have my tweak setting saved i thought since it was supposed to delete everything
Ok so what do I do first I’ve done this once but since it didn’t seem to work the first time I want to make sure it works the second time also by the way will actually delete every little bit of trace of jailbreak including what ever junk it leaves behind and all my tweak settings and all my repos?
Should I be in a jailbroken state while running succession or should I unjailbreak and also before I do this should i do tooth’s with unc0ver or mess with any of these setting and rejailbreak my phone or should I just do nothing before I do this and just run the program?
ok then but about my jailbreak setting should i tweak with any of those and then rejailbreak or should i just run the program like you said (sorry if im asking alot of questions its just that this is my second time doing this and in want to make sure i absolutely get it right)
sage briar
I suppose 245
valid adder
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
Can y’all read pins before you lose faceid or brick
sage briar
He only asked for latest version...
ancient grotto
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
full osprey
I'm not trying to futurerestore
I have old devices on ios 11 and 12 that I'd like to FR to 12.4 or something
Which devices
I don’t really think it matters
Use s0uthwest’s
tawny basin
hello man
i have İphone 5s 6,2 12.4.4 version can i downgrade 10.3.3 ? no shsh blobs no mac pc
vieux matthew downgrader work VMWare*
?
sage briar
I think you need blobs
full osprey
Absolutely
sage briar
and that is only for mac
full osprey
And I just told you this
sage briar
Try to find 5/5C and you will have 10.3.3
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fathom tundra
Hey guys I have an unc0ver jailbroken iPod touch 6g on 11.3.1 that I would like to upgrade to 12.1. I have the blobs for 12.1 and 12.3. Is it currently possible?
With futurerestore?
anything i need to be careful with apart from setting boot nonce having ipsw and the zip of blobs?
thanks for the help. do you have a BTC wallet I can send you a beer through
lol. I just dont want to get stuck on 13
although im a bit behind on the ios scene
i also have an ipad 2 (7.1) on 13.3.1 i kind of want to put on 13.4.1 (currently signed) only because it supports bluetooth mice. In your opinion is it worth it?
theres two versions of the ipad 2 wifi
if the ipod 6 was yours would you rather keep it on 11 or go to 12?
should i go to 12.1, 12.3 (futurestore) or straight to 12.4.6
so go to 12.1 rather than 12.4.6
you're the man @sacred estuary I really appreciate it
fathom tundra
hey guys im trying to download an ipsw but apples link is dead. is there some kind of torrent tracker or something dedicated to ios firmware?
i need 12.1.3 ipod7,1 to futurerestore from 11.3.1
sage briar
It looks like only 12.1.3 and above is not working, 12.1.1 is working, you could try that one
fathom tundra
my shsh blobs from 12.1 dont have the noapnonce part
i only have 12.1.and 12.1.3 blobs
use the noapnonce from 12.1.3 on 12.1?
12.1 and 12.1.3 but only 1.3 has the noapnonce
ive been using this guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHuwuvnkcEUCwaDuck2dy-MR7q4em38uL4_4Utx2QZ8/edit
yes tssaver
rather than the apnonce?
roger. thanks again man
do you think its worth going to 12.1 rather than just updating it to 12.4.whatevers signed
12.1.1 too?
sweeeeet.
should i be worried about any issues restoring an itunes backup of its current state?
im currently jailbroken with uncover but apt install is bricked so i cant reinstall cydia or ssh. I can still jailbreak and set boot nonce though
restored rootfs along with a half dozen other things cant get any root shell
so should i use 0x1111111111111111 for nonce?
i dont need to manually set sep do i?
which blob should i use?
there are 5 blobs for 12.1.1 all very similar and same size
ok im pulling the trigger wish me luck
Version: 81b98e0425e17250cc83d5badaf9a8cc6399f481 - 245
Libipatcher version: 3159a387584e352f690cca859e013c3a4683f3e8 - 69
Odysseus support: yes
[Error] argument parsing failed! agrc=6 optind=3
6th gen ipod touch (ipod7,1)
wont that reset boot nonce?
lol discord reformated the double -
thats what caused the flag error
[Error] Device ApNonce doesn't match APTicket nonce
tried all 8 none matched nonce
should i use uncover to dump the apt ticket?
checked all 8 already non generator in any. the noapnonce from 12.1.3 does have one
yes
i just tried setting the chimera nonce but that didnt work atleast on the first blob
holy moly guacamole we got some heat!
yup third one i tried
i needed the chimera boot nonce. i think it was jailbroken on chimera or early uncover when i dumped the blobs so it didnt have one with a generator key in it
this will wipe it right?
yeah i want it to wipe it i want a nice fresh clean install
woop woop im so excited. i literally only use this thing as an ipod in the car with activator so i dont have to look at it to change songsl ol
i just jailbroke this ipad pro 12.9 on 13.4 i have for a bit. ive been out of the ios scene for a few years have any cool stuff i should look into?
sweet
thanks again man you have been a tremendous help
oh which jailbreak should i use for the semi untethered?
cinder flume
what ios?
fathom tundra
i havent been in the game since ios 7 really
cinder flume
what ios is the device on
cinder flume
what device did you futurerestore
fathom tundra
thanks again Hex👍
modest bear
is it possible to restore a 5s on ios 9/8/7 untethered
i dont want to update
no blobs
that i know of
modest bear
is that directed at me?
sage briar
Yes
modest bear
shit
i can (possibly) get in and reset from there but that depends on if my sister can remember the passcode
valid adder
viex literally uses blobs
can you read the damn description lol
(OTA Blobs)
10.3.3 is ota signed)
meaning you can save blobs
keen geyser
Hi i was ios 12.1 and tried to futurerestore to 13.3. i got error code -11 and am bootlooping is there any way out of this?
dang so theres no way to get to 13.3
yeah
full osprey
Update and restore with iTunes
keen geyser
was there a way to update to 13.3 by using a different sep or was it impossible
full osprey
Before anyone asks, 13.4.1 SEP isn’t compatible with anything under 13.4. Also no you can not restore to 13.4 without FR now that it’s unsigned. Also yes FR will wipe your device
keen geyser
thanks
full osprey
No problem
keen geyser
hi after i failed the futurerestore to ios 13.3 and restored to 13.4.1, my iphone is carrier locked again while i can see that there is service and lte. does the futurerestore have anything to do with this or is there anything i can do?
celest basalt
Oh wait it can’t be oops
keen geyser
@sacred estuary not sure i got the phone used i thought it was unlocked and i used it as unlocked for a year
keen geyser
when i use the imei to look it up it says its locked, the seller might have used an online carrier unlock? @sacred estuary
do you think restoring again will do anything
lol what do you think of those online carrier unlocks should i try do go through those
alright ill try thanks
last condor
frozen lion
Try root and voidlinux
rain perch
I know this isn't exactly future restore related but can I save blobs on iPXS without being jailbroken? conans tsssaver says I need to manually specify the nonce but the only way I know of doing that is through unc0ver and i'm on 13.4
plz @ me in your response 😄
sage briar
I never had to specify nonce or anything similar. On some devices it wants board configuration but no idea how could it want nonce... it is stated like advanced users only
Just enter ECID and model of iPhone and probably board configuration
dont tick manually specify nonce
rain perch
I never had to specify nonce or anything similar. On some devices it wants board configuration but no idea how could it want nonce... it is stated like advanced users only
@sage briar I didn't tick specify nonce, it says you need to for A12 devices
http://prntscr.com/sbgrt6 iPX is A11 iPXS is A12
sage briar
That are news for me... never had anything A12+ so I thought it goes the same way with every device
Try to enter default nonce
heady yew
lol
that's not how it works
you need to set a generator on your A12 device and grab the nonce it generates
and input that into TSSSaver
cinder flume
^ so there’s no way to do it on 12.4
true dust
Hallo can't lower the Sparkasse Bank version, the application shuts down ... earlier it went 13.4.1 checkra1n is there anyone using this application?
valid adder
why are you asking here
true dust
And where should I ask you can write?And where should I ask you can write?
valid adder
what did I just read
coarse igloo
I think they were asking what the correct channel is
true dust
Exactly
true dust
It's okay, I didn't have App Store ++
true dust
@celest basalt What do you want to use?
celest basalt
Idk I just wanna see if I can get lower firmware
true dust
But what ? write the whole sentence..
celest basalt
Idk I never used this I’m tired mine if we talk in the morning
true dust
you think Sparkasse ??
cinder flume
Don’t futurerestore if you don’t need to especially if you don’t know what you’re doing
Just causes headaches
sage briar
As said already dont futurerestore when you know nothing about it and dont know why are you writing here when you are tired and dont know nothing about what you want futurerestore. Most futurerestores possible on current firmwares as of now has no meaning
lofty heart
Has anyone successfully downgraded their 5s to 10.3.3 using ota blobs and futurerestore?
lofty heart
@vivid nova how were you able to save your ota blobs?
vivid nova
didn't need to
lofty heart
how's that?
vivid nova
AFAIK, apple is still signing the OTA
lofty heart
They are
lofty heart
I tried using the scripts, but I had the saem error on 3 different macbooks running Catalina
Catalina basically broke them
vivid nova
yeah, don't use catalina
lofty heart
I tried saving my ota blobs with tsschecker, but it doesnt save them right
vivid nova
Well, maybe you can.. I think.. yeah I used catalina
vivid nova
srry, been a looong time
lofty heart
all good
vivid nova
the one thing that took a while was exploiting the 5s
lofty heart
I can exploit the device no problem, but it's just when it trys to run futurerestore is where it has some issues
vivid nova
if you'd like i could help you
lofty heart
I dont have access to those macbooks anymore
vivid nova
ah
lofty heart
I only have 1 macbook that only supports high sierra or lower
but ipwndfu never worked on it
but checkra1n does
lofty heart
I only have the macbook that runs high sierra, and a ctalina vm
vivid nova
i'd use a mojave VM
celest basalt
Yo think anyone could help me every time I try to turn on do not disturb my iPhone crashes
vivid nova
@celest basalt #genius-bar
valid adder
@vivid nova there's an edge case bug that I identified rob is testing my fix
vivid nova
@valid adder a what? Lol
valid adder
vivid nova
odd
valid adder
its been known for years
its just kinda rare
and the only fix is to put 0x in front of it
I have a patch for vieux that does this
vivid nova
oh? I've never encountered that issue
vivid nova
with vieux?
celest basalt
has anyone successfully downgraded an ipad mini 2 to 10.3.3
this is the furthest ive gotten
usually it just hangs at the "found device" line
alright ty
...
thats the tool i'm using
did you even read the log?
not mad
oh
thought it did sorry
but i am using vieux
lol anyways
thats the furthest ive gotten using vieux
but usually it just hangs at ```Found: CPID:8960 CPRV:11 CPFM:03 SCEP:01 BDID:0A ECID:0000050E488DCB08 IBFL:1C SRTG:[iBoot-1704.10]
and then the ipad reboots to stock and it says "didnt detect a device in dfu in 30 second timeout'
or something like that
yes
plugged it into mac
put it in dfu
ran the command
./vieux -i /Users/GetToasted/Downloads/iPad_64bit_10.3.3_14G60_Restore.ipsw
i got the ipsw from ipsw.me
it says put your device into dfu mode and run the command
heres my latest log
just tried it again
same thing happened
and now my ipad wont boot at all
its just stuck on the apple logo
hmm now the ipad just won't restore
isn't it basically just futurerestore but it gets ota blobs automatically?
i'm trying to restore it with itunes right now
it's just hanging at "preparing ipad for restore"
have tried restoring it with iTunes and the Chinese tool with the blue icon that I’m not allowed to name
nothing works
heady yew
You’ve tried dfu?
celest basalt
dfu restore fails 2005 from itunes
dfu restore from [that program] gets stuck at 11%
recovery restore from either program just hangs
and nothing happens
oop [that program] says "unable to write iBEC"
oh i think it might actually be working now
oh shoot its working
and the ipad has the progress bar on screen
or not
😐
i think its just bricked at this point
damn 😔
vivid nova
@celest basalt what are you trying to do?
celest basalt
Originally I was trying to downgrade my iPad Mini 2 to 10.3.3
But now it won’t even boot to iOS, I can only get to recovery or DFU
And iTunes won’t restore it at all
I’ve tried restoring this thing on 2 macs and a PC at this point
I think it’s just dead
celest basalt
iTunes and finder both give error 9
Tried restoring it both from Mojave and Catalina
And a windows PC using iTunes and [that program]
vivid nova
Did you try another cable?
celest basalt
No I haven’t
vivid nova
error 9 can be a hardware fault
celest basalt
I don’t even think I have any other cables
vivid nova
I'd try another cable/usb port
vivid nova
that's okay
celest basalt
I’ve gotten error 9 on both laptops so I don’t think it’s the port
Gonna go try and find a different cable then
vivid nova
if not, you can run idevicerestore https://github.com/libimobiledevice/idevicerestore @celest basalt
celest basalt
woah okay I tried another cable I found and I think it’s actually restoring it
vivid nova
good
celest basalt
I haven’t gotten error 9 yet and the progress bar is halfway
vivid nova
cool
vivid nova
no problem 🙂
digital crane
pale fossil
Quick and hopefully not too dumb question: I'm on 12.4 (XR). I saved blobs for 13.1 back when it was being signed (most recent blobs I've got) Can I now use futureresttore to go from 12.4 to 13.1 using those blobs? All this SEP biz is confusing me and I wasn't aware of it until now so I'm not sure if that's going to get in the way. Thanks!
sage briar
No, you cannot go to 13.1
pale fossil
well damn. here I was thinking blobs was gonna save my ass all this time 🙂
(and thanks for the quick response!)
sage briar
You can only go to 13.4 with blobs
pale fossil
right on. and on XR I'm out of luck with 13.4 as far as jailbreak goes, yes? (I've been away for a while!)
vivid nova
Yes
13.3 is the current jbable firmware for XR
As for the SEP, the latest SEP is only compatible for 13.4. Nothing lower.
celest basalt
ah thanks. literally came here to ask that lol and its the first thing i see
vivid nova
@celest basalt about the SEP?
celest basalt
Yeah lol
full osprey
celest basalt
Can I use "FutureRestore" to restore my A12 device on iOS 13.4.1? Recently, I saved my SHSH2 blobs for my iPhone XR on 13.4.1, and I am unsure of which blob method I should use for the restore. There's a APNONCE and NOAPNONCE. What's the difference between the two? In the near future, when Apple stops signing iOS 13.4.1, I want to do a FutureRestore, so when a jailbreak gets released, I will have a clean device to work with. Is APNONCE used only for A12 and A13 devices, as to NOAPNONCE which is used for older model devices. Also, if there's a guide somewhere can you please 🙏 link me it. I will appreciate it very much.
valid adder
you need a jailbreak to use blobs
celest basalt
@valid adder In the future when a jailbreak gets released, can I use the blobs to restore on the same iOS? But, there is a Apnonce and NoApnonce to choose, what should I choose 🤔 for future when a jailbreak gets released?
vivid nova
@celest basalt What firmware do you wish to downgrade to?
valid adder
only if the iOS that is currently being signed has a sep compatible with the version you are restoring to @celest basalt
vivid nova
The issue with using futurerestore on the devices is the SEP. The latest SEP (currently signed by Apple) will only allow you to go as low as 13.4. You cannot go lower
In the future when Apple decides to unsign the firmware (iOS 13.4.1 - 13.5 etc) then most likely the SEP will be incompatible and any attempt to use the latest will either result in errors with futurerestore and/or device bootloop.
celest basalt
@vivid nova I'm not downgrading. I am planning to do restore on 13.4.1 when Apple stops signing the iOS. (But, with the FutureRestore Method.)
vivid nova
Yeah, the difficulty is that the SEP may not be compatible with the lower firmwares once Apple stops signing them...
and the SEP is required for device fuctionality
But, @celest basalt you can still save blobs in light of a possible downgrade when the time comes. Can't guarantee it'll work (seeing as any jailbreak launched will have Apple scrambling to patch it by any means necessary). As for the blob folders, NoApnonce would be the best bet. Apnonce is for advanced users.
celest basalt
I'm just currently waiting for a jailbreak on 13.4.1. I heard that there's a new exploit that supports 13.3.1, 13.4, and 13.41.
Oh, I see.
vivid nova
If this said exploit is supposedly supported for 13.4.1, I'd hang tight and avoid any updates.
celest basalt
@vivid nova Let's say, if a jailbreak comes out for 13.4.1, what will you suggest me to do.
There's a nonce generator to set.
vivid nova
If you're on 13.4.1 and a jailbreak that supports all devices on 13.4.1 is out.. Honestly, I'd use it, but I'd also wait a month after the jailbreak is launched so that all the bugs are ironed out
celest basalt
That makes sense.
celest basalt
Yep, how about if want to do that restore. When I am on a 13.4.1 jailbreak.
By all means, I got the blobs saved on TSS Saver and my computer.
vivid nova
If you're on 13.4.1 and you wish to downgrade to 13.4 (given that the SEP signed at the time is compatible) then you'll need to be jailbroken prior. Downgrades aren't possible on stock devices. A jailbreak is required to set the nonce and allow futurerestore to commence the process.
Granted though, its possible to set the nonce on a stock device by sideloading an app.. but the reliability is unknown with the latest firmwares/devices.
celest basalt
@vivid nova Oh, I see. Let's say if I am not downgrading and just want to do fresh restore like iTunes, but with the FutureRestore Method. Like restoring to the same iOS, do I need to worry about sep?
Current: iOS 13.4.1 and FutureRestore to the same iOS.
For a clean start.
vivid nova
No. Futurerestore doesn't restore a device with the same firmware unless of course the SEP is compatible. If say you're jailbroken and you want to start fresh, there's ways of doing so without futurerestore.
However, with a non-jailbroken device, this method isn't possible without the blobs and the SEP. it would be technically downgrading since you're using the same format to downgrade with, even if its on the same firmware.
celest basalt
@vivid nova What other ways can I use to restore the device in the future? I tried Succession before and it was having tons of issues. But, in the future when my idevice is jailbroken, can I try to use my 13.4.1 blobs and use the Unc0ver nonce setter to restore fresh. What, do the sep files do btw?
vivid nova
@celest basalt The SEP isn't a file, its the Secure Enclave Processor. It's responsible for all your passwords, Touch/FaceID, bank info user data, everything. The SEP with futurerestore is simply an encrypted digital key that goes through Apples servers (very complex). You could use succession for a jailbroken device in the future, but Restore RootFS is the best alternative which un-jailbreaks a device, from there you may Reset all contents and Settings. I'd only use futurerestore to downgrade to a specific firmware.
celest basalt
@vivid nova So, it's risky, but it's possible to do of what I am saying.
cinder flume
there is no tool that we currently have that preserves SEP version but its theoretically possible to do it i think
ask cryptic about that
right now you have to hope apple is still signing some SEP that is compatible with the version you are restoring to
celest basalt
@cinder flume I am planning do use FutureRestore to ReRestore my iOS on 13.4.1. In the future, when Apple stops signing the iOS and that there's a jailbreak out for 13.4.1.
@vivid nova JTV, thank you for being here to help me. I really appreciate that you were here to answer all of my questions. ☺️
vivid nova
No worries 👍
vivid nova
@rocky frost "StableA7"?
sage briar
I have heard about it a couple of weeks ago for first time too
vivid nova
@rocky frost use https://github.com/MatthewPierson/Vieux
How many times did you try Vieux?
Cause a7 takes a lot.
What iPad is it?
Are you using a virtual machine?
Ah.. That could be an issue
It does, it's just some hackintosh configs may not work as expected
I could probably edit the script for you.
Not necessary
@rocky frost could you run vieux again and show me the output?
valid adder
nothing to do with hackintosh
celest basalt
what is this channel for?
vivid nova
@celest basalt For those who need help with FutureRestore
celest basalt
ohh i thought it said future store sorry
vivid nova
*futureshop
sage briar
ohh i thought it said future store sorry
@celest basalt
spark fulcrum
sweet magnet
has anyone used vieux to downgrade before? I'm having some problems.
sweet magnet
I was trying to use it to downgrade my ipad mini 2 to 10.3.3. I am not sure this is the correct channel but searched before posting and saw a few posts in regards to the tool.
@cinder flume
cinder flume
this is the right channel but i've never used it
you should explain your issues so if someone does know how to use it, they can help you
sweet magnet
Running into these errors. When trying to restore. I've also ran into errors where it says my firmware isn't supported. However I download the 10.3.3 ipsw
Also mentioning that I'm using mojave.
sweet magnet
At this point im@wondering would it just be easier to use future restore and an older tutorial
valid adder
Unpair, delete pair records, kill iTunes iTunesHelper usbmuxd usbd and USBAgent
Then pair when your device is at the home screen
Then try again
sweet magnet
could I just do it on windows?
fervent trellis
Does FutureRestore still work?
I don't want to update my X yet
jaunty nymph
static crater
is it possible to futurerestore from 13.3 to 13.5 on A13?
planning on doing this if i want to use u0 then
@sacred estuary oh that’s pretty lit, using 13.5 SEP?
when 13.5.1 comes out, i doubt iTunes would even let me restore to 13.5
it’ll just force me to 13.5.1
cinder flume
or you can just update with ipsw, i doubt 13.5 will be unsigned before the jb drops
static crater
depends how long I keep Chimera for. But fingers crossed lmao
mint gulch
Aye is there any way to save blobs for the new SE (A13) without a jailbreak
frigid blaze
yes, there is
search up blobsaver I just used it
@mint gulch
I'm not sure if it works for the se
but it works for the 11
it should, you can manually select the identifier
celest basalt
so i have a question because i never used futurerestore really
based on the pinned messages the blob system is useless after ios 13 because of something called SEP
then is there any use of saving blobs right now?
a guy on reddit said to try out future restore rn on 13.5 since it’s the best time to do so but i say a pinned message that you cannot
the latest pinned guide makes no sense as it’s assuming you understands all the terms so can someone explain it to me please
and lastly i have an ipad pro 1st gen, iphone 7 plus
and other family member devices: iphone 11 pro max, iphone 7, iphone x, ipad 7, ipad mini 2
are any of these can be used in a future restore
vivid nova
All of them, yes, but the latest SEP won't work with anything lower than 13.5
@celest basalt
vivid nova
Secure Enclave Processor
its responsible for everything on a device
Touch/Face ID, passcodes, keychain, functionality, etc
celest basalt
so basically at the moment with my devices there is no point in saving blobs because i cannot use them
ever
vivid nova
Not true
Some of the mentioned devices in your family are susceptible with checkm8. Because they're vulnerable to this exploit, the SEP can be bypassed, allowing untethered downgrades in the future
@celest basalt
vivid nova
@sacred estuary I have with tvOS, no-go
celest basalt
so should i keep saving blobs for the future
vivid nova
yeah, that'll be patched
wish they'd throw that in 14, not 13.5
besides, that's a pretty big exploit (not as big as checkm8)
celest basalt
should i keep saving blobs on my devices for the future or there is no point in that?
celest basalt
but i cannot use any of them at the moment correct?
vivid nova
Despite the SEP being in the way, the valid signatures are vital
not at the moment @celest basalt
celest basalt
ok noted
thanks guys for the help
ill keep saving them for the future
@celest basalt depends on where you’re trying to restore to
@sacred estuary i just wanted to try futurerestore out
i’m downloading the ipsw for 13.5 and wanted to know if i can go back to 13.3 if i didn’t like it
that’s why i was asking
wait
i shouldn’t upgrade my ipad to 13.5?
it’s on 12.4
ok so stay on 13.3 but the ios 12 should be updated
vivid nova
13.3 won't matter if its unsigned...
celest basalt
what is dualbooting on ios, isn’t that for pc’s?
valid adder
???
why would dualboot be exclusive to pc
its a general term
its not specific at all lol
vivid nova
why would you want to dualboot? more risk of bootlooping...
valid adder
not really
celest basalt
so i can have to versions of ios on the same device?
celest basalt
damn
vivid nova
... if you have like 64GB
valid adder
i have a 64gb x
celest basalt
that’s my mom’s phone, i’d rather not break it
valid adder
I don't really care about dualbooting
probably just gonna update\
maybe theres a way to restore w/o flashing sep
celest basalt
@valid adder i should update 12.4 to 13.5 right?
vivid nova
okay, so installing a handful of tweaks then you're out of memory? 😛
valid adder
yeh @celest basalt
celest basalt
ok thank you
valid adder
can update anytime tho
doesn't matter when
you can have two 64gb oses on a 64gb device @vivid nova
as long as they phsyically don't excede over 64gb
virtually due to apfs they are dynamic
hence why stashing is irrelevant now
because rootfs is dynamic just as varfs is
rotund vale
How do I get my ecid w/o using itunes or SystemInfo
valid adder
you need jailbreak or you need a computer
rotund vale
I'm Jailbroken
valid adder
whats wrong with system info
rotund vale
It's shows up as offline in installer
and when I use cydia, it just doesn't work
on 13.3
rotund vale
there is no cydia error, it downloads fine. I just don't see what it's supposed to show
i'll try it again
valid adder
settings app > general > about
rotund vale
yeah, nothing shows up
valid adder
did you press respring
rotund vale
yes
rotund vale
unc0ver
valid adder
do other tweaks work
valid adder
just get your ecid in unc0ver
rotund vale
oh lul
vivid nova
another way: SSH ecid
rotund vale
that would have been way easier
vivid nova
lol
rotund vale
I tried that
vivid nova
odd..
rotund vale
but when I click on the number to cycle through them, ecid never showed up
rotund vale
i could just be blind 🤷♂️
vivid nova
rotund vale
@vivid nova fyi, in the future I would suggest ppl use the TSS Saver tweak
vivid nova
indeed.
rotund vale
could I downgrade from 13.5 to 13.3
vivid nova
no
rotund vale
rly?
vivid nova
13.5s SEP isn't compatible with anything lower
rotund vale
rip
vivid nova
thx Apple
rotund vale
could I upgrade, once it's unsigned
if I have blobs
is there a way to save the old SEP
rotund vale
oh.. ok
vivid nova
that determines if it'll work. If Apple says no, then futurerestore will error
rotund vale
hmm. so when would be a good time to upgrade to 13.5
for the upcoming unc0ver release
vivid nova
well, the upcoming unc0ver release will cover anything as low as 11.0
so if you wanted to stay, you can still use unc0ver
rotund vale
yeah, I guess I just like the idea of being on the latest jailbreakable firmware
vivid nova
but if you want the latest and greatest, by all means
just remember: the more you update, the more security you get
vivid nova
i'm still on 10.3.3 and the reason why i haven't updated is because I don't want to enter my passcode when i connect to a 'puter
vivid nova
if you wish to know what's changed, read this https://discordapp.com/channels/349243932447604736/688122358107603013/712829785197248533
rotund vale
I guess watchos would be interesting, but I don't have an apple watch so. I guess I'll stick with 13.3
vivid nova
up to you
vivid nova
they wish we didn't break into their Software
fallow anvil
@rotund vale The bigboss version of system info is outdated
rotund vale
@fallow anvil is there a different version I could get?
fallow anvil
@rotund vale from apt.arx8x.net
rotund vale
ok thx
lone ginkgo
Is there any way to find out what iOS I can upgrade to? Trying to go from iOS 10.2 to 13.3 but looks like it doesn't work
Dayum
So the blobs I've been saving over the years is useless 😭
If that's the case, should I just update normally via iTunes or stick with future restore?
True
Thank you 😄
lone ginkgo
I keep getting error 22. What does it mean?
Trying to update to 13.5 with latest sep/baseband
lavish umbra
Hi, i tried restoring iphone 7 on ios 12 to 13.1.3 and futurerestore was stuck on updating stockholm for more than 10 minutes, so i just closed it. But now my phone is in a bootloop, what should i do?
I put it into recovery but when i try to run futurerestore again it says apnonce not set
sage briar
You cant futurerestore to 13.1.3
cinder flume
@lavish umbra restore to latest ios
you can try an update first but doubt that will work
see #common-issues
lavish umbra
thats thethered isnt it?
celest basalt
anyone knows how long is succession supposed to take restoring var
@odd stag (sorry for ping)
If iOS 13.5.1 sep changes, does that mean I’ll only be able to use future restore to restore to 13.5 while it’s signed? When 13.5 stops being signed, I won’t be able to restore, even if I have my blobs?
odd stag
@celest basalt 5-10 mins
celest basalt
should i be worried if the restoring bar has been stuck for 20 min
nvm force rebooting it seemed to work
also is succesion suppoeed to crash when doing uicache? @odd stag
odd stag
yes but I don't know what force rebooting did
celest basalt
idk it was stuck restoring
odd stag
so after you force rebooted
did you run it again
or
like howd you get to the uicache
celest basalt
i mean it was stuck in the restoring progress bar
and i force rebooted
and then it showed me the same bar but bigger
and now im on the welcome screen so everything worked perfectly, thanks
odd stag
oh ok
sage briar
@celest basalt you will be able to future restore to 13.5 even when 13.5 will get unsigned if you have blobs
late lava
does anyone know how to fix futurerestore selecting the wrong board config in the buildmanifest?
this is the output
its weird 2 bc maybe i selected the wrong board config? but there are aptickets with both 6s board configs
on newer firmwares
dense nacelle
so im new to saving shsh blobs, so i go into tss saver and i put in my ecid, but what do i put for Internal Name/Model | Board Configuration?
vivid nova
@dense nacelle what device do you have?
dense nacelle
iphone se (1st generation)
dense nacelle
is it the same for all iphone se?
fringe owl
i have a zsh problem with futurerestore 245
after i download the futurerestore 245 i can't open it with terminal always get the issue zsh: killed ./futurerestore
i hope some one can help 🙂
fringe owl
still get the error
Downloads % chmod +x ./futurerestore
MacBookPro Downloads % ./futurerestore
zsh: killed ./futurerestore
valid adder
run it in bash
it will probably say uknown arg or some shit
your mac is probably too outdated
heady yew
this channel is so calm
valid adder
fr fr
fringe owl
I'm on macOS 10.15.4 Mid 2012
valid adder
yeh prob wont work
fringe owl
the 180 version from works this i don't get it but thx anyway
minor topaz
oh wrong channel lmao
celest basalt
hey lads, how's it going
i'm gonna be futurerestoing soon
let the good ol times begin
vivid nova
why?
celest basalt
to get my futurerestoring skills come back on power
vivid nova
GL
celest basalt
whats the scene with the sep status going on?
celest basalt
dyam
cinder flume
im assuming 13.5.1 will work with 13.5 though
celest basalt
what kind of tethered downgrades
I've been away for a while now so have lost touch
cinder flume
i think your currently installed sep has to be compatible with the version you are downgrading to
celest basalt
yeah that I am aware about
also whats this I'm hearing about 13.3 having dual booting capabilities
valid adder
13.3 supports 13.X 13.5 supports 13.4-13.5
So you could dual boot any 13 version if you didn’t update
cinder flume
so pins are wrong?
celest basalt
all dis futurerestore stuff has gone beyond
anyways I'm trying to compile futurerestore
configure: error: Package requirements (libfragmentzip >= 47) were not met:
Requested 'libfragmentzip >= 47' but version of libfragmentzip is 43
Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
installed software in a non-standard prefix.
Alternatively, you may set the environment variables libfragmentzip_CFLAGS
and libfragmentzip_LIBS to avoid the need to call pkg-config.
See the pkg-config man page for more details.```okay disregard that
while trying to compile the latest ver of libfragmentzip
make[2]: *** [libfragmentzip_la-libfragmentzip.lo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2```I get that error