development

[gentle grove]

error: linker `aarch64-apple-darwin-clang` not found

and there is no linker package for apple anything on the repos, or on the aur either

i will try something else though

[ocean raptor]

well yeah

[gentle grove]

i am trying out aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu

[ocean raptor]

# Uncomment and change to preferred location.
# Defaults to ${HOME}/.local
# export PREFIX=/usr/local
wget https://gist.github.com/.../install-toolchain.sh
bash install-toolchain.sh

[gentle grove]

what would the repo be lol

[ocean raptor]

hmm

grabbing it now

[rapid mirage]

look at my fun in game mod menu

[ocean raptor]

@gentle grove https://gist.github.com/1Conan/4347fd5f604cfe6116f7acb0237ef155

just follow this https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/Procursus/wiki/Building-on-Linux

[rapid mirage]

i couldn't figure out how to make an in-game menu w orion so I just turned the leaderboard menu into the mod menu

but if i switch pages i can turn the menu off

[gentle grove]

oh my goodness

i will try aarch64 linux first

totally didnt just almost unmount / by pressing tab too many times after tab completing the disk i wanted to actually unmount

but luckily i wasnt using sudo so it didnt actually unmount my root

[rapid mirage]

yeah def don't cross compile if you can avoid it

I wish I had more than 8GB of ram on my fastest arm device (m1 macbook air) I was expecting the chiplet ram to be much more efficient than it is compiling most software still

i actually find the laptop sluggish quite often

[primal perch]

mfs act like 8gb on the m1 is somehow magically 16

its not

[restive ether]

bashisms 🤢🤢

should update the sdk links

[twilit jungle]

[lime pivot]

I bought a base model air for testing and can definitely confirm that

even my mac mini with 16GB is sluggish, I regret buying it instead of waiting for the studio

even though that was a full year away

[rapid mirage]

i thought apple was gonna release m1 at least decently powerful when they were trying so hard to push arm to desktop

I was. gonna wait but needed it for class

[rapid mirage]

glad i didn't buy more than the base model then

[lime pivot]

would have been worth it for the interim till something better comes out and you can afford it, at least

[primal perch]

is this true @twilit jungle

[twilit jungle]

No its

[primal perch]

ok sorry bruv @tepid olive

[vivid dew]

dbruv

[gentle grove]

Yeah but I don't have an arm machine except for a raspberry pi

And I am never compiling any rust program at all on a raspberry pi

It would probably take hours, maybe even more than 24 just for a single program

Maybe I need a faster SD card

But really I need a raspberry pi replacement but Intel nuc is expensive

[vivid dew]

@restive ether what are your thoughts on this as an american

[thorn dust]

what the-

y'all got bts and joe biden in one room. shits about to go down

[primal perch]

cameren passed

[rapid mirage]

mac mini m1 and then you can compile for your pi natively

[gentle grove]

That's expensive plus I would still need to install stuff to cross compile for Linux wouldn't I

[rapid mirage]

yeah but it's not too hard

[gentle grove]

OK but it's expensive

[rapid mirage]

yeah

i bought my base model m1 air bc i wanted good battery life, needed a cheap laptop for an ios programming course, and really wanted to witness the birth of the arm consumer desktop

i'll always keep this thing until something dies on me

but there's no fan

low battery drain, a good keyboard, great build quality, a pretty nice *nix friendly OS, and something like my pinebook pro i could charge on a 10w usb a charger

plus it's apples first desktop chip in a fat minute

[undone nest]

wtf

[zenith hatch]

stop being broke

[undone nest]

[zenith hatch]

trolling

[tepid olive]

Does anyone know what to change in the pass.json or to add in the folder of a card on Apple Wallet so that it shows as if it was an Apple Cash card with the balance ect... If someone has the file of the card, can he send it to me without the private info

[opal ridge]

probably need to patch launchd for mounts

it will

and than it will try to mount the on disk paritions

(after re-exec)

[opal ridge]

so you would end up usb rootfs

but everything else is on the disk

also

remember lightning is USB 2.0

skull emoji

@cedar glacier

aka patching out launchd mounts

race condition

[native dune]

LMAO

0 being programming lmfaoo

i’m dying

[opal ridge]

actually

you can pre-mount everything I think

no more launchd patching

some some SEP secure storage

not sure, maybe you can patch the kernel to increase the VFS cache pressure?

No

it's not going to be fun with USB 2.0 anyways

And almost no ram

@cedar glacier even more fun (but probably won't work)

root-on-lifs

LiveFiles

the thing stock files app uses

to mount stuff

which is technically some fuse equivalent

real

macOS

[zenith hatch]

(impossible)

[gentle grove]

what if they're not a Linux user

What if they're using windows

you never know

[rocky token]

Is hotspot’s hidden property how it’s enabled and disabled in settings?

In NEHotspotConfiguration

[rocky token]

Oh alright. I’m still learning my way around everything lol

[native dune]

what

oh

yeah

[vivid dew]

https://twitter.com/sivemorten/status/1533378426660347904

Sive 1️⃣  (@sivemorten)

https://t.co/LwadlnDyxP

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[gentle grove]

LMAO

[native dune]

lol

[indigo peak]

does anyone know where the calculator app and music app live in an ipsw

i think its in the dyld_share_cache

[primal perch]

theyre sandboxed

isnt it some /var shit

ah yup

/var/staged_system_apps

15.5 from the iphone 12 mini ipsw @indigo peak

[indigo peak]

o

ty

i love you

[pearl sail]

time to do Music++ and give free AM to the masses /s

[tepid olive]

random question: are those exempt from piracy rule since its an apple app?

[primal perch]

idk

they dont really enforce it if you arent pirating tweaks

piracy of everything else is generally ignored

[ocean raptor]

mods will ban you for pirating tweaks but not Morbius or IDA, curious

[tepid olive]

okay what is that lol

[primal perch]

morbius

[ocean raptor]

the entirety of Morbius (2022)

[tepid olive]

oh lmao

[ocean raptor]

I have watched it a morbilion times already

[tepid olive]

oh go away lol

[primal perch]

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts/releases/tag/1.5

also windows activation

please use it

[tepid olive]

[tepid olive]

uhhh, that seems a bit iffy

[primal perch]

its on github so it cant be malware!!

[tepid olive]

inb4 token stealer repo

which actually exist btw

[primal perch]

yea

generally accepted as safe

i use them for my enterpries isos

[tepid olive]

not saying its malware exactly (although it might, or it could be a fed honeypot, who knows), but imo it seems iffy in regards of the piracy rule considering its literally bypassing activation

but that's just me

[ocean raptor]

@restive ether care to explain your double standards?

[snow python]

It’s morbin time

[primal perch]

yeah baby let’s go

[hasty ruin]

And Adobe is Adobe

[weary heath]

wget morb.in

[grim sparrow]

Morbius is the best movie ever

[lime pivot]

morb dot india

[indigo peak]

ty

[lime pivot]

donat

donat the tomat

[indigo peak]

hi

go-apfs doesnt cp folders

only files

and i dont know how to open a .app file that's meant to be a folder

[hasty ruin]

Just open it

[indigo peak]

:c

[hasty ruin]

Remove the .app extension

Make it a “regular” folder

[indigo peak]

well

i found an issue

[hasty ruin]

[hasty ruin]

oh.

yeah, that’s probably not good

[indigo peak]

and it does that whenever i try to cp just the folder i want

i just switched to transmac

@hasty ruin we good now

[hasty ruin]

W

[indigo peak]

transmac was the solution

[hasty ruin]

Ez

[lime pivot]

.app is just a folder, has no meaning other than that macOS lets you double click to run the binary inside the folder

so on windows it's just a meaningless folder

[indigo peak]

ooo

so i had to use transmac

[lime pivot]

weird you couldn't copy it off with the apfs thingy

[tepid olive]

anyone uses ubuntu?

[high citrus]

https://dontasktoask.com

[tepid olive]

i am writing the true password but it keeps coming

[weary heath]

Hit the eye and make sure there's nothing like caps lock or a different keyboard layout configured

Try the 5ghz network too

[tepid olive]

i want to ask that can it be get broken on dual boot?

[tepid olive]

controlled everything , changed modem password too

[high citrus]

It's probably fine if it lists the networks

[tepid olive]

yes you are true

in the booting says failed to start network looks like os have problems

[celest quiver]

please don’t use ubuntu

linux mint is superior

[lime pivot]

please don't tell people they're using linux wrong

[lime pivot]

is this an older machine? the router might be using wifi features incompatible with the chipset you have

[ocean raptor]

Only an Ubuntu user would say. Use a real OS like FreeBSD smh

[lime pivot]

I had this a few weeks ago, I have a wifi SSID specifically for my test devices, I booted up an iPhone 5s and it kept failing to connect

I had to turn off an increased security setting on the router for it to connect

only A9 and newer supports it

[ocean raptor]

Mint literally has a python wrapper around apt, and doesn't really update iirc

[lime pivot]

bruh half of everything in linux is a python script

my emoji picker is a python script

apt background updater is a python script

[celest quiver]

anyways

got me some cool vim stickers

[lethal kayak]

woman repellant

[lime pivot]

you don't see nano stickers because nano doesn't need advertising 😉

[restive ether]

virgin nano user vs chad pico user

[lime pivot]

my man albert gore

UW PICO 5.09 moment

this post was made by GNU nano 6.3 gang

[restive ether]

gnu? more like no thank you

[tepid olive]

GuhhNu

[gentle grove]

Wtf my system has almost no python at all

[lime pivot]

doubt

[gentle grove]

I hve it installed because I use it for repos and stuff

But I can uninstall Python

Lmao

Might've changed now that I'm using kde

[gentle grove]

what are you signing up for

Wdym last time, why's there multiple times

Yeah but you don't have to resign up lmao

It rolls over

As long as your info is still the same

That's how it worked for me

I had to use link on jetbrains to Renew but that only took like 3 mins

[serene ridge]

Lmfao

[ocean raptor]

Same as normal pf I would imagine

https://man.cameronkatri.com/man5/pf.conf.5

[primal perch]

rip a10

[ocean raptor]

You can probably find some tutorial about how to do it for openBSD (or FreeBSD which is still on the old pf config format iirc) then convert it to the old configuration format @gaunt pewter

[tepid olive]

no i7 11th gen

[grim sparrow]

wild

its still a .xip but 3gb smaller

[rapid mirage]

@lime quartz isn't saving iOS 16 beta blobs

is there source code for AutoTSS

[indigo peak]

@grave sparrow when i sideload the app from the ipsw it works, but when i sideload it with a tweak it doesnt work anymore

useless

<@&355177983398641674> help

[rapid mirage]

every link my teacher posts is blue w an underline but it's never a hyperlink

annoying af

[river rapids]

general goes too fast kek

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/enabling-developer-mode-on-a-device

is this finally sideloading?

[grim sparrow]

OMG FINALLY

FUCK YES

[ocean raptor]

no, it's what we had with an extra step

[serene ridge]

AYO?

inspect element safari

[lime pivot]

no

[river rapids]

no ez sideloading ;-;

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow without dev disk image?

[lime pivot]

I never went to bed american man

[serene ridge]

Im installing macos beta on my hackintosh :troll:

[ocean raptor]

ok, I'll look as soon as my device finishes updating

[lime pivot]

tldr is dev mode is just an extra step to allowing .ipa sideload / running from xcode

[ocean raptor]

as far as I can tell

or just hiding the developer section of settings behind both a switch and disk image

[lime pivot]

it’s extra security on existing features not really anything new

[grim sparrow]

Wow look at everyone with faster Internet than me

[lime pivot]

the trick is to not download all of Xcode, iOS, macOS, and iPadOS at the same time

[indigo peak]

@ocean raptor you seem like you’d know this

[ocean raptor]

I don't touch sideloading

is the app arm64e?

[indigo peak]

@lime pivot you seem like you’d know this

[ocean raptor]

@indigo peak you seem like you’d know this

[indigo peak]

Yeah it was taken straight from the iOS 15.1.1 iPhone 13 ipsw

[ocean raptor]

is your tweak and mobilesubstrate/substitute arm64e?

[gentle grove]

@boba

[indigo peak]

yes and yes

[gentle grove]

@Boba

[indigo peak]

It’s from sideloadly and the tweak I made

[gentle grove]

@bbao

@tepid oliveao

@sick spindlea

[indigo peak]

@grim sparrow you seem like you’d know this

[umbral marten]

I want to learn how to start to develop jailbreaks, is there any good resources I should know?

[ocean raptor]

Fugu14's writeup

Taurine source

there are a bunch of slides you can find for talks at hacking confreneces

[umbral marten]

Thanks

[primal perch]

and give JIT

i’m reality it’s just a switch to give us what we already have now

[vivid dew]

i'm also interested in summoning a succubus from xcode

[indigo peak]

binaries for?

tweak/app

[indigo peak]

@primal perch you seem like you'd know this

[primal perch]

@misty cradle you seem like you’d know this

[gilded laurel]

genuine question, how come someone reverse engineered airdrop and made opendrop but nobody seems to have figured out apple’s universal clipboard

like, i’d rather install some software on my pc to connect to apple than software on all my devices to connect to some other server thats gonna work like shit

[indigo peak]

yeah thats too hard

[pearl sail]

I understand this

need

[vivid dew]

[pastel tulip]

anybody here good with js that can help me out with a code project?

[indigo peak]

i know js

i dont like js though

it sucks

which is why im making my csp final in javascript

[lone bronze]

js doesn't like you either

web assembly everywhere

[indigo peak]

I get that a lot

sbingner doesn’t like me either

[lone bronze]

hahaha naw i don't blame you ... i like js but i hate bad js

[ocean raptor]

same as far as I can tell

[indigo peak]

are you blocked on discord

[ocean raptor]

no

(surprisingly)

[indigo peak]

well that’s a step up from me

[ocean raptor]

probably cause I have more valuable input than you

[tepid olive]

false

[lone bronze]

false

[ocean raptor]

[ocean raptor]

I'll give you $0, take it or leave it

[gentle grove]

what's that

[primal perch]

what’s that

[gentle grove]

everything

xapt

capt

YOU ARE CAPT

[twilit jungle]

#development message

[faint timber]

discord obfuscation

[lethal kayak]

discord obfuscation > hikari

[stone tendon]

Anyone can mod none-jailbreak app?

[weary heath]

Use sideloadly to do that

[lime pivot]

wdym by sideloaded by a tweak

[indigo peak]

sideloaded with a tweak

Using sideloadly

[lime pivot]

oh gotcha

would be the way it screws with the entitlements I guess

or rather it could be that it doesn't touch the entitlements, possibly

non-Apple signed apps aren't allowed to use all of the entitlements that exist

[indigo peak]

should I attempt to remake the info.plist

where it doesn’t do anything with unnecessary entitlement

[stray lynx]

any idea how to fix this? i updated to ios 16

[restive ether]

broke

[ocean raptor]

Enable developer mode

[stray lynx]

how?

[ocean raptor]

1. Don't dm me
2. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/xcode/enabling-developer-mode-on-a-device

[stray lynx]

my bad

thanks

[celest quiver]

This is why you don’t update

[raven maple]

How can I decode bplist16 in XPC message?

[stray lynx]

yeah fr. ios 16 is cool but not worth it for now. i gotta figure out how to get my phone on developer mode now. i hope there’s a video or something on youtube.

[weary heath]

It’s just a toggle in settings

Then you reboot and get free Spotify

[native dune]

lol

based

[tepid olive]

getting wake failure error on hackintosh

how t fi

x

[fervent verge]

I’ll pay someone to build a website for me $50

busy busy busy

[primal perch]

https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Post-Install/universal/sleep.html

[tepid olive]

i dont understand anything

there are lot of fixes but i dont know what fix i need to use

not for this site, for all internet

[stray lynx]

thanks man i fixed it this helped a lot!

[ocean raptor]

[celest quiver]

.

[gentle grove]

isn't the only way to leak if you like hold onto a huge variable and don't get rid of it

which wouldn't actually be a leak now that I think

yeah that should be impossible in memory safe languages except for compiler bugs I think

What about in rust

[ocean raptor]

or if you reassign the variable and lose reference to the malloced pointer

[gentle grove]

yeah there is definitely learning curve but its fun

I looked at the CPP example on Wikipedia and its crazier than rust

[ocean raptor]

https://twitter.com/iancoldwater/status/1534170639120191494

Ian Coldwater 📦💥 (@IanColdwater)

as a trans person in America, I am unsafe. That's why this Pride month, I am partnering with the C spec to

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[indigo peak]

those are the 2 plist files for calculator

Entitlements.plist & Info.plist

[indigo peak]

make it false

or just remove

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>application-identifier</key>
    <string>com.apple.calculator</string>
    <key>com.apple.QuartzCore.secure-mode</key>
    <true/>
</dict>
</plist>

so that?

and then change the application-identifier to be my id

ldid -S binary?

ty

i forgot how entitlements w ldid work

sideloadly

[tepid olive]

Just sign it with ldid

Or entitle it with codesign

Either way its built into one tool

[indigo peak]

@grave sparrow still doesnt work

entitlements were updated on the binary

but it didnt work

[restive ether]

you’re bad

[primal perch]

mald

[ocean raptor]

You can't sign apps with ldid using a free account anymore

[tepid olive]

Woe

[faint timber]

anyone have jailbroken a11-a14 that can send me latest youtube decrypted

[indigo peak]

@grave sparrow found this in the crash log

{"code":1,"flags":518,"namespace":"DYLD","indicator":"Library missing","details":["(terminated at launch; ignore backtrace)"],"reasons":["Library not loaded: @executable_path/Frameworks/CydiaSubstrate.framework/CydiaSubstrate","Referenced from: /private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/1AA90B11-CEA0-44DC-8B66-5EC8EDCBAC6B/Calculator.app/Calculator","Reason: tried: '/private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/1AA90B11-CEA0-44DC-8B66-5EC8EDCBAC6B/Calculator.app/Frameworks/CydiaSubstrate.framework/CydiaSubstrate' (fat file, but missing compatible architecture (have 'unknown,armv7,arm64', need 'arm64e')), '/System/Library/Frameworks/CydiaSubstrate.framework/CydiaSubstrate' (no such file)"]},

[ocean raptor]

Oh you mean the exact thing I told you to check

Surprising

[indigo peak]

and the exact thing I said was too much work to check

ik

So surprising

[ocean raptor]

You need to use substitute or libhooker

Or zefram ( @grave sparrow 👀 )

[ocean raptor]

Not sure if either of these work with sideloaded apps though...

Imho I would just grab an arm64 calculator from a different ipsw

I doubt calculator has device specific code

It's arm64e, he took it from the ipsw for his device (an arm64e device)

[indigo peak]

Non-fat file: ipa/Payload/Calculator.app/Calculator is architecture: arm64e

i have an idea

[ocean raptor]

Only solution

[primal perch]

that would be piracy

@grave sparrow @ocean raptor @indigo peak gm

@lime pivot gm

[indigo peak]

gm

[ocean raptor]

Bro is 7 pm

[indigo peak]

8 pm *

[primal perch]

5:45pm

[ocean raptor]

Bros in a 15 minute time zone

[indigo peak]

yeah

what are you gonna do about it

[primal perch]

cum

[indigo peak]

good

[primal perch]

lots of words

mom said not to put small items in my mouth

[ocean raptor]

Write one

[primal perch]

preferably dont use swift

or go

or rust

or zig

based

objkc

there you go

[ocean raptor]

Oh btw, why don't you use IOKit's macho symbol finder?

[primal perch]

@grave sparrow do you have 8gb m1

true

[indigo peak]

do i sideload with substrate/subsitute

or do i disable either

disable both

not enable

lmao

[primal perch]

8gb mfs inhaling copium trying to convince themselves its still usable

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-sad-pepe-crying-pepe-the-pepe-gif-21617046

[ocean raptor]

Try using the calculator you already have with substitute and not substrate

[primal perch]

interesting that m2 offers 24 now

[indigo peak]

alr tried

[primal perch]

not a terribly bad idea

[ocean raptor]

Why do you have 16 instead of just using apple's?

[ocean raptor]

Then do option 1

[primal perch]

in apple style though its grossly overpriced

[indigo peak]

alr

im just gonna get from a arm64 ipsw

ty for the help

@grave sparrow @ocean raptor

[primal perch]

shouldve been 12gb or 24gb options tbh

instead of 8(yuk)

12 is at least usable

[indigo peak]

iphone x is arm64 right

not e

[primal perch]

yes

true

128 minimum

64 is so bad

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow macho_find_symbol in IOKit

[primal perch]

probably unstable

if you didnt use rust its not safe

ios cant even use the current hardware properly

or rather wont let you

let me run emulators on my fucking phone apple

makes best arm64 cpu on the planet

locks it down

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow here's the header https://github.com/apple-oss-distributions/IOKitUser/blob/main/kext.subproj/macho_util.h

[primal perch]

cussion

•    The macho_find_symbol function searches a memory-mapped Mach-O file
  

•    for a given symbol,
  

•    indirectly returning the address within that mapped file
  

•    containing the data for that symbol.
  

•    Only symbols of type N_SECT, N_UNDF result in an address;
  

•    for N_ABS and N_INDR the result will be macho_seek_result_found_no_value.
  

• @param file_start A pointer to the beginning of the mapped Mach-O file.

macho_seek_result macho_find_symbol(
    const void          * file_start,
    const void          * file_end,
    const char          * name,
          uint8_t       * nlist_type,
    const void         ** symbol_address);

selling ownership of bird poop for 500$

add me for queries

all source code and rights included

[ocean raptor]

Honestly sad smh

Imagine writing a symbol finder

[primal perch]

i had a dream lst night i think jules was in it

unironically he was telling me that you can use meth for gasoline because of gas prices

in the dream

so i did that and it worked

cant even make that shit up

well i can

i did about 12 hours ago

braxtona-deskto\shepgoba

[ocean raptor]

alloca(3)

[primal perch]

my brother in christ

if you used more than a couple gotos youre using c wrong

so do it correctly

embedded c++ and destructors

the convenience of C++ with the runtime cost of C

tell that to apple with iokit

std::unique_ptr

[ocean raptor]

No, you need bitches

[primal perch]

true

std::unique_ptr<int[]> cum(new int[1024]);

yeah it is kinda

[gentle grove]

I am turning my dotfiles docker image into a multistage image

[lethal kayak]

😐

[cursive rampart]

REAL

[indigo peak]

well that fixed everything

[tepid olive]

Arm64e apps cant run lol

[ocean raptor]

They can, but not if you try to load an arm64 library into it

[indigo peak]

im gonna rewrite calculator history

bc thats a smart idea

or

i can finish my clock app tweak

from like

december

[primal perch]

i made something like that first i think

[gentle grove]

what are you doing

what language

no results when i look the error up

whats the code

i dont even understand what its saying

[indigo peak]

basically perfect

do UIViewControllers have a navbar already built into them like how the clock app has one

or would i need to just make one from scratch

and then would it be possible to make the "content" view of the view controller be the entire view just w/o the navbar padding

[ocean raptor]

I have never hated something more

[indigo peak]

i wanted the view to pop up

not be an entire new page

i tried, but idk what exactly to google

ewwww

they updated the docs site

for apple

i have the view popup, but the navbar sucks

[indigo peak]

im trying to make it so it works both vertical and horizontal

and is the same height both v and h

[lime pivot]

that's correct

[lime pivot]

bro the sidebar is great

you can actually navigate the docs without going insane now

[primal perch]

you are

i don’t truly know anything

1. buy pseudoephedrine

2. idk use it

nice

[primal perch]

nfr

[hasty ruin]

Thank you for this

[primal perch]

meth time

[pearl sail]

thanks now I don’t have to buy that blue shit that taste like Gatorade

[vivid dew]

@grave sparrow https://old.reddit.com/r/jailbreakdevelopers/comments/v77d88/if_apple_copies_a_tweak_is_the_developer_entitled/

[rocky token]

Is it normal to have your browser download and launch a .jnlp file when launching a Java servlet? Is that not somehing that should be handled behind the curtains?

[undone nest]

it does that for me too, i just open it and it works

even though i hate java servlets

[rocky token]

They’re pretty secure compared to just running shit in the browser though aren’t they?

It just seems so gaudy

“Download this crap every time you want to run this”

Like, who needs a cache

Just use the download folder and make the user run their own stuff

[lime pivot]

it’s no better or worse

jnlp launches out of browser but acts like it was launched in the browser in terms of security features

plugins don’t exist in any browser any more, except for audio/video codecs/DRM

that’s why jnlp is a thing now

[rocky token]

Ugh I feel like I’ve been lied to. Every time I learn something there’s always a contradiction

Computer science is hard

[tepid olive]

Hello little developers

[gentle grove]

https://twitter.com/dangeredwolf/status/1534209722366275585?s=19

dangered wolf 🏳️‍🌈 🔜 AC (@dangeredwolf)

Time to get some work done

Likes

119

Twitter · Jun 7, 2022, 4:24 PM

[rocky token]

You think too optimistically of me

Bruh I will never let my watch tell me when it’s time to open folders

[lime pivot]

—GNU make developers, probably

[ocean raptor]

-- all developers except apple

[lime pivot]

C:\Program moment

[ocean raptor]

windows makes me want to kill myself

[lime pivot]

there's a fun bug where wininit has logic to detect an unquoted path, but task manager doesn't

so you open task manager startup items tab and see random items named just, "Program"

3rd party tools like… well autoruns technically isn't a 3rd party tool but anyway… correctly figure out the startup item paths

[native dune]

LOL

[tepid olive]

@grave sparrow DO NOT DRINK AND POP XANS

[tepid olive]

[tepid olive]

abide my warning

wait it’s gay month

wtf

[ocean raptor]

The worst month smh

[pearl sail]

I like being a fucking mess tho

[tepid olive]

yeah but

YIKES

these weren’t alp bars either

stronger

by 2x

derived from alp tho

[restive ether]

i almost killed myself that way

[lethal kayak]

dumbass

[tepid olive]

LOL

it’s safe fr...

[pearl sail]

yeah that seems consistent with my experience as well

[gentle grove]

my dotfiles docker image is now only 630.6 MB compressed

[zenith hatch]

fr

[wicked summit]

true

going into developer mode grants access to all iOS source code

[lone bronze]

soo many trolls in #jailbreak

[wicked summit]

welcome to #development

we do a little trolling

[lone bronze]

@grave sparrow you like my workaround on that banned word

seriously congrats mate

"I'm fkntwerkn"

exactly 🤪

hahahaha

[tepid olive]

btw imagine just using windows firewall

[pearl sail]

Ah yes the famous kernel panicking M1 macbook owned by Capt

[gentle grove]

Why's the 7829 blue

why would it be blue

The 100 too

The 100 too

Yeah this one isn't blue

Well the background is

Why blue

And how

Wtf

No

100

No

@grave sparrow what is your secret

No

No

No

Discord dying

[primal perch]

[gentle grove]

No

[primal perch]

apple developers have stockholm syndrome

[ocean raptor]

I know, I'm in hack diff

[ocean raptor]

lol Spotify has blue check marks now

[primal perch]

fleetwood mac true

[ocean raptor]

Yes

That's a band not a song

Oh daddy

[primal perch]

probably gonna be cliche since i only listened to rumors the labum

speaking of have you heard smells like teen spirit by nirvana

its an underrated gem

[ocean raptor]

*overrated

[gentle grove]

I thought you just said two different organs there

[primal perch]

thats the joke

the chain probably

[ocean raptor]

Everywhere

[lethal kayak]

at the end of time

[ocean raptor]

can you hear me calling

Out your name

You know that I'm falling

And I don't know what to say

I'll speak a little louder

I'll even shout

You know that I'm proud

And I can't get the words out

[gentle grove]

who would use that pfp fr

[pearl sail]

you sadly

[gentle grove]

proof?

[pearl sail]

I'm not required to fix your low IQ issues

[gentle grove]

im not required to fix yours either

[pearl sail]

yes I know

[tepid olive]

Based

As a fleetwood mac fan thats based

[ocean raptor]

Spotify likes to do really slow roll outs for new features

[pearl sail]

FR I have rarely seen a mf say they hate fleetwood mac

[tepid olive]

Brave

[pearl sail]

?

[ocean raptor]

I said the R word

And gir deleted it

[pearl sail]

lol

[ocean raptor]

They're like journey: everybody loves them and anybody who doesn't is stupid

CC: @tepid olive

[pearl sail]

journey do be overrated

like they have good songs

but vastly overrated

[wicked summit]

gm

[tepid olive]

I fucking hate journey

[ocean raptor]

Really? I never would've guessed

[lone bronze]

Don't stop; buh-leeeeeaavvin!

[wicked summit]

#development message

[tepid olive]

damnnnn good job dude

[rapid mirage]

we just need a java cache system on iOS and a android->ios kernel transition api and we can maybe get android apps on iOS

i just want the pornhub app but it's android exclusive qq

an honesty though what are the limitations preventing this, surely we can run a java vm on iOS but what does android do that makes it where apks aren't runnable on iOS

file system assumptions? i feel like some symlinks could fix that

[gentle grove]

Probably the whole api or standard library or something

[rapid mirage]

and bind mounts

[gentle grove]

Do we even have working JVM on ios

[rapid mirage]

yeah we'd need like a framework

[rapid mirage]

can we not compile openjdk for it?

[faint lion]

openjdk-16-jdk

OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK)

Author

Hayden Seay

Version

16.0.0+git20201217.8383f41-2

Price

Free

Repo

Procursus

Bundle ID

openjdk-16-jdk

Powered by Canister · Jun 9, 2022, 3:15 AM

[gentle grove]

Also there's google play services to think about

No way are you implementing those on iOS and that takes away any play store app

[rapid mirage]

yeah but that's been reverse engineered by micro gapps and stuff

[gentle grove]

Yeah but are you really gonna reimplement the entire thing for iOS

[rapid mirage]

not even just the essential frameworks that apps utilize

[gentle grove]

Wdym

[rapid mirage]

nah but i figured someone would put a lot of effort into it

well don't lots of hacks hook google play libraries

for like matchmaking in games and shit

[gentle grove]

At least microG is the same os (android) as play services

[gentle grove]

Hacks on android, sure

[rapid mirage]

but not android on iOS?

[gentle grove]

They would be hooking Apple game center or whatever

[rapid mirage]

i mean we have a java runtime just not libraries for the apps to link to

[gentle grove]

you would need working play services on iOS mainly, I think

[rapid mirage]

yeah same

[gentle grove]

That's not simple

[rapid mirage]

i recognize that

i'd just thought there would be a project working on that somewhere in the community

[gentle grove]

Probably isn't any incentive anyways

Especially compared to the difficulty

[rapid mirage]

yeah

[wicked summit]

shaft, even

[pearl sail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688124600269144162/984236687007834172/6j1vpm.jpg

[magic isle]

Android has never used the JVM... truthfully it sounds way too large of an experiment for a jailbreak

[rapid mirage]

yeah ik it uses it's own OS wide java runtime environtment

[lime pivot]

discord has decided it's time to call 7829-100

good work @tepid olive, congrats

I believe its use is limited to public, non-stripped symbols

well, to answer it a different way

MSHookFunction will never work without the ability to get debug privs for the process

what I described is what fishhook supports

ie, that's what you can do in a production, non-debug entitled binary

right

it's patching instructions in memory, which is a big no-no

those pages are supposed to be rx

with debug entitlement, they can be rx or rw

my assumption is pages that are currently rx can never become rw if not entitled

I'm definitely not super familiar with this but that's my understanding

honestly don't recall how fishhook works

I was gonna go read up on the code but they have a nice writeup here anyway, https://github.com/facebook/fishhook#how-it-works

they're who released fishhook

technically more like chpwn did after he went to Facebook, they just ok'd him releasing it officially I guess

he's now at Mom's Friendly Computer Corporation so don't expect any goodies from him ever again lmao

yeah, just roughly skimming it that's the idea I get from it

substrate/libhooker patch the first few instructions of the function, turning it into a trampoline that calls the hook function, which can then call the original function which is the first few instructions it replaced, then a jump to the intact remainder of the function

I wonder if substrate is just more careful to not try if it knows it won't work?

[primal perch]

they also made zstd

so they’ve done something right i guess

[lime pivot]

I figure substrate would be more careful because it's had a more complicated history of function hooking over the years compared to libhooker's shorter time on this planet

[primal perch]

girth

[lime pivot]

for instance when rwx was made impossible, yet that's what substrate originally relied upon

that became some kind of check of whether it can use rwx, or whether it has to do rw then rx

then of course it got a huge refactoring with kppless

nope

[primal perch]

unless you’re mobile safari

[lime pivot]

only exception is if you have the dynamic-codesigning entitlement

yeah

[primal perch]

or one of the other webkit daemons whatever that is

if that exists

[lime pivot]

just dynamic-codesigning

[primal perch]

damn 15.5 has been running smooth

i didn’t know ios 15 could do it

yeah

all entitlements would work as you expect assuming ios let’s you use them

[lime pivot]

you only need dynamic-codesigning I believe

get-task-allow just enables either another process or the process itself to put itself into debugger state

[primal perch]

can’t believe it was only 3 years ago the volume ui became usable

[lime pivot]

that being how you can give yourself dynamic-codesigning without "actually" having that entitlement

[primal perch]

everything confuses me

i know almost nothing about ios

[lime pivot]

to me I'd say ability of your process to be attached to, or ability to attach to any process, is effectively full system takeover, full userland security bypass

[spring herald]

anyone know what it is?

Thanks

[lime pivot]

get task allow: you’re allowing debug operations
task for pid allow: you’re allowed to get arbitrary tasks, even those without get task allow

hah absolutely

fork() is the way I do that in Zebra 2

is it because you’re running under debugger?

hmm

[lime pivot]

to me it feels like substrate has a way to find out if a page is in common with multiple functions

honestly, not sure actually

it feels like that wouldn’t be very performant

[hasty ruin]

Well done suckmycock2001

[lime pivot]

oh cool, good to know

yeah that’s totally reasonable

@plain python pls fix

[plain python]

A11 and up still doesn't allow rwx with the entitlement

[gentle grove]

almost just accidentally added my entire home folder to git

[primal perch]

that’s a lot of gura nsfw

[wicked summit]

git add /

[ocean raptor]

MWL moment

[rapid mirage]

can anyone help me w this, I'm using ARM?

The version of Xcode installed on this Mac is not compatible with macOS Ventura. You have “Xcode.app” 13.4.1. Download version 13.4.1 for free from the App Store.

but 13.4.1 has been reinstalled twice now

oh i need xcode 14 beta duh

[rapid mirage]

I can't build orion tweaks on macOS 13 as it uses swift 5.6 by default, but I downloaded a 5.5.3 toolchain, how do I get macOS to try compiling in a swift 5.5 environment?

[primal perch]

linux

[rapid mirage]

it turns out i just had to update theos/orion

How can I access the value of an ivar of a class from one of its own methods that I've hooked in orion?

I tried Ivars<Bool>(.self).canAdjustUserCamera but it didn't work

[queen prism]

i have a question about ipa's. would an ipa that only has a mach-o binary for arm64 work sideloaded on the newer generation of arm64e devices?

[indigo peak]

i think

[queen prism]

bassicly i have an ipa ripped from my iphone 7 (arm64) and i want to know if i give it to someone with a newer device arm64e if itll work for them

[indigo peak]

i thunk so

[lime pivot]

Xcode 13 doesn't work on Ventura, Xcode 14 doesn't work on Monterey

at least for the time being

hopefully the time being

[ocean raptor]

Xcode 14 does work on monterey...

[lime pivot]

how does JIT work on A11+?

[lime pivot]

oop my bad

I got that idea because I think saagar's unxip was corrupting the app breaking the codesig

[lime pivot]

oh, this is what made me think that

oops yeah I should prolly update

[plain python]

it uses a syscall to switch it from RW to RX

[lime pivot]

gotcha, I figured

[opal ridge]

isn't mirror mapping used?

map some pages as rw than mirror map them as rx

[lime pivot]

my friends, just thought I'd mention something incredible that feels like it flew under the radar

custom app extension points are now supported in iOS 16/macOS 13, including remote view controllers (but only on macOS for some reason) https://developer.apple.com/documentation/extensionkit

[primal perch]

pretty big win

[lime pivot]

totally

[primal perch]

@viral laurelomer you can rest now

f

[lime pivot]

it allows XPC between apps on iOS now pretty much

[primal perch]

i cant really get that excited with how locked down it is though

[restive ether]

maybe you should lock down some bitches

[primal perch]

not wrong

[lime pivot]

tru

[restive ether]

i say this as if i’m not playing skyrim.

[primal perch]

skyrim is a chick magnet wym

[lime pivot]

my only concern I guess is that any app can connect to your XPC service since I don't think you get access to XPC vouchers? idk I could be wrong

oh wow never mind

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/foundation/nsxpcconnection/3943309-setcodesigningrequirement?changes=latest_minor

you can require arbitrary entitlements

[primal perch]

i should really learn how cryptography works

and probably do comptia security+

[restive ether]

comptia more like communism

[primal perch]

real

[restive ether]

what’s next a license for my toaster

[primal perch]

literally dude

[lime pivot]

not that it… means much if you aren't the app store gatekeeper and can't stop anyone from adding the entitlement… I guess?

[primal perch]

... and thats why the age of consent should be 14

[lime pivot]

.

[restive ether]

and that’s why we should abolish the minimum wage

[pearl sail]

8 is acceptable

[primal perch]

in fairness its just basically used as a guide in a lot of states rn

utah is 7.25 but nobody starts there

all food starts at like 15

supply and demand does work for labor to some extent

whether its enough for a living wage is another story

[pearl sail]

Utah be like Mormons

Gotta love joe

[primal perch]

lets go brandon

[pearl sail]

We are white and we are proud

[restive ether]

that’s only because a lot of those service jobs got bullied into deploying $15 country wide wages

it wasn’t the economic aspect of it so much as the social impact

[primal perch]

i mean even franchises are doing it

they just literally cant hire for any lower

[lime pivot]

please

[vivid dew]

[viral laurel]

[zenith hatch]

cum

[pliant fossil]

this is not development related

[undone nest]

maybe you should develop some bitches

[pliant fossil]

i cant sorry

[undone nest]

why not

[pliant fossil]

year 9 in a boys school

chances pretty slim

[undone nest]

go out and meet people

[pliant fossil]

yea maybe

i remember my friend on the bus saying "girlfriend for you at 3 o'clock" and it was some old lady

i laughed

[undone nest]

[pliant fossil]

some mfs made a fan page on tiktok of me doing stupid shit so that can either increase or decrease my chance idk

[weary heath]

Link

[pliant fossil]

no fuck off

[lime pivot]

an official worf fan page? lmao

[native dune]

lmfao

[coral gazelle]

iOS/iPadOS 15 RTM added a feature where the device goes into DFU mode if a system file is changed. Does this mean a semi-tethered or semi-untethered jailbreak is no longer possible?

[gentle grove]

https://twitter.com/HuskyHacksMK/status/1533069909294731264?s=19

Matt | HuskyHacks (@HuskyHacksMK)

For your next interview question, consider this scenario:

You're thrunting on the endpoint with your best bros. You find a user got quished. It's a polyamorous virus with blockchain-mode encryption. Your marketing team is at RSA, so no thought leadership support. What do you do?

Likes

214

Twitter · Jun 4, 2022, 12:55 PM

https://twitter.com/HuskyHacksMK/status/1533069909294731264?s=19

Matt | HuskyHacks (@HuskyHacksMK)

For your next interview question, consider this scenario:

You're thrunting on the endpoint with your best bros. You find a user got quished. It's a polyamorous virus with blockchain-mode encryption. Your marketing team is at RSA, so no thought leadership support. What do you do?

Likes

214

Twitter · Jun 4, 2022, 12:55 PM

[gentle grove]

Does finder have a bundle id

[high citrus]

com.apple.finder

/System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/Info.plist

[gentle grove]

Thank

[high citrus]

How fast are the true depth sensors able to switch on and off?

would it be enough to use it as a ir remote?

(the dot projector)

[high citrus]

hmm nvm, don't think it is able to switch on within 12ms

[gusty wagon]

just kill the chunk of code that monitors that

[ocean raptor]

no, Taurine15 will be a semi-untethered jailbreak. It does mean that rootless is necessary though

[coral gazelle]

BetaWiki says it’s a feature…

[coral gazelle]

How is it possible for a jailbreak to not modify the RootFS?

[ocean raptor]

Rootless

We've known about this for a long time

And have solutions

[coral gazelle]

Like what?

[gentle grove]

Rootless, I assume

[coral gazelle]

But how does rootless work?

[tepid olive]

ios 15.0 users desperately waiting for a jailbreak

once 16 beta is relatively stable im just gonna update my main

idgaf

been on 14,3 since the day it released

dude these crypto prices

are trolling me

too hard

[weary heath]

sooner they drop to 0 the better

[restive ether]

retweet

[tepid olive]

i’m reyna

tryna

pay for stuff

grrr

[primal perch]

[primal perch]

nice

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/924119396476158012/984780602815418408/video0.mp4

[hasty ruin]

Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masterbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masterbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.

[coral gazelle]

Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masterbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masterbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.

[primal perch]

Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masterbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masterbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.

[indigo peak]

Please put an NSFW tag on this. I was on the train and when I saw this I had to start furiously masterbating. Everyone else gave me strange looks and were saying things like “what the fuck” and “call the police”. I dropped my phone and everyone around me saw this image. Now there is a whole train of men masterbating together at this one image. This is all your fault, you could have prevented this if you had just tagged this post NSFW.

[tepid olive]

looks gay

[primal perch]

your specialty

[wicked summit]

#development more like #cringe

#development message

[primal perch]

thanks to capt

the dominant source of cringe

[vivid dew]

[rare fulcrum]

Nice car

[cloud sundial]

Sounds like some medicine brand lol

[foggy ruin]

why dont u just get it from betaprofiles.com

its ipsw

[faint stag]

ipsw.dev and betaprofiles are two different sites

not only that, using the IPSW will not work on windows. you'll get an error telling you itunes is too old

^

[foggy ruin]

i used an ipsw yesterday on windows

[faint stag]

for ios 16?

[foggy ruin]

ios 15.5

[faint stag]

[faint stag]

macOS will do something similar and try to get you to install an update that doesn't exactly exist. you'd need xcode beta or macOS ventura to use the ipsw. i guess they changed something in 16 that requires new software to install it

[opal ridge]

There are cryptexes in IPSWs now

and dyld shared caches and a few frameworks is in its own DMG

[faint stag]

wait, what are those

[opal ridge]

cryptexes are dmgs originally (and still is) intended for sending custom executable payloads to SRD

now even on production non-SRD devices there are cryptexes

But it is static

Aka the cryptex in the IPSW is normally the cryptex the system is every going to get

until an update happens

also dyld shared cache is splitted into like 40 files now

[indigo peak]

yeah bc having 1 easy to access fully encrypted 6 gig file wasn't good enough for apple

they decided to make it like dyld_shared_cache.n where n is 0-40

[lone bronze]

lul that's great

👷

[opal ridge]

it isn't encrypted

[indigo peak]

?

[opal ridge]

dyld shared cache is unencrypted

[primal perch]

imagine how slow that would be

noticeable app launch slowdowns

[ocean raptor]

Apps launch really slow for me with iOS 16

[primal perch]

50x the logging will do that

[coral gazelle]

Does anyone know if it’s possible to make untethers for 14.1 and earlier using the same exploits Fugu14 uses for 14.2-14.5.1? What’s the lowest version you can untether with this?

[tepid olive]

Every fucking year “the first developer beta is slow and drains my battery, apple has a lot of work to do!”

[steady nest]

14.0 dyld closures
14.2 kernel exploit

[rapid mirage]

i finally figured out how to hook ivars in orion

my tweaks are about to get crazy finally lol

i was wondering if orion supports atomic operations so I can reference a variable globally to pass data between classes though

[rapid mirage]

does it really do this? there's already so much logging done in iOS 14 :~|

[primal perch]

yeah

all betas have extra logging enabled

[zenith hatch]

L

[hasty ruin]

[lone bronze]

gEt DoXxEd CaPt InC. @grave sparrow

[rapid mirage]

ah makes sense

[indigo peak]

Okay Andrew

[ocean raptor]

Tbf you called me and the caller id snitched

[tepid olive]

.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/731430470251970581/958602716043698247/caption.gif

[primal perch]

impossible

[atomic hearth]

sexually transmitted disease

[faint timber]

fun fact using namespace std breaks msys

[indigo peak]

typedef std::string string;

[primal perch]

using std::string;

nfr

[faint timber]

Sucking Tiddies Disorder

[ornate hamlet]

yo @gentle grove your website is the first result for googling "discord edited trick" lmao

[gentle grove]

it is

[ornate hamlet]

lol