or some version of *nix
#development
primal perch
ocean raptor
FreeBSD 
primal perch
the based *nix
ocean raptor
FreeBASED
primal perch
FreeBSD <:trol:831188670848565289>
NVIDIA GRAPHICS
restive ether
i only use sparc chipsets đź’Şđź’Ş
ocean raptor
NVIDIA GRAPHICS
yes, I use those
> nvrun glxinfo | grep "NVIDIA"
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 510.60.02
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 510.60.02
OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 510.60.02
chad
gigachad
wow, actual opengl 4.6 too
macos cant imagine
cough 4.1
im truly impressed that youve been able to daily drive freebsd for this long
i cant even bother with linux let alone bsd
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> nvrun glxinfo | grep "NVIDIA"
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporati...
are there working proprietary nvidia drivers?
primal perch
yea
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I’m somewhat surprised
primal perch
theyre fully maintained and have been for a long ass time actually
ocean raptor
are there working proprietary nvidia drivers?
yes
primal perch
people like to shit on nvidia but theyve been supporting *nix way longer than amd too
back in the ATI days there was no option but nvidia
ocean raptor
that's why I use FreeBSD, not NetBSD or OpenBSD
OpenBSD doesn't even allow thirdparty kernel modules
smh
lime pivot
both still have a long way to go to reach Intel’s devotion to Linux though
ocean raptor
OpenBSD doesn't even allow thirdparty kernel modules
but they have full in-tree Xbox gamepad drivers
primal perch
devotion wise yes however they all work
80% of the linux nvidia bad just comes from circlejerk about it being proprietary
however the criticism about nvidia not supporting GBM and wayland was and still is somewhat valid
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not that I’ve had issues (aside from my monitor topping out at 120Hz not 144Hz) with my all-AMD build on Linux
primal perch
xorg doesnt run smoothly at 240hz for me on xorg on nvidia
i think its just a driver thing so i dont like nvidia for that
it does work its just not very smooth like macos and windows is
idk why
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yeah it could easily be Xorg at fault, idk
primal perch
other than that i cant complain about the drivers
good performance on launch day and generally stable
pain can come with kernel updates tho
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though I couldn’t get any better on wayland either
primal perch
personally i just stick to windows and macos on a separate drive as both OSes cover my use cases fully
gaming most of the time and ios shenanigans on mac
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can’t say whether it’s an AMD issue because I bought this card because my 1060 doesn’t support display stream compression to achieve above 4K60
primal perch
what card did you get
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an MSI 5700XT
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friend was selling and was asking for below RRP in the peak of fucked GPU prices
primal perch
havent used it but thats just what iv eread on reddit about dsc stuff
like with the odyssey g9
primal perch
friend was selling and was asking for below RRP in the peak of fucked GPU prices
nice
i sold a sapphire nitro+ 5700xt for 340$ in 2020
right before the gpu drought
i dont regret it though the shit drivers made it a nightmare
at least the shit windows ones
idk about linux
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interesting because I thought the 1060 lacking DSC was the problem
primal perch
yeah thats definitely part of it
so now your hardware is able to
but idk whether linux properly doesi t
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144Hz definitely works in Windows because of course stuff always works fine under Windows
primal perch
it does (until it doesnt)
to be fair though i never have windows break without me doing something fishy before
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truuu
primal perch
its just that the fishiness is usually required for something in my workflow
just my experience with M$ windows
ik people that have it break all the time so idk
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last I remember is an issue I couldn’t explain whatsoever where my Windows 10/11 VM would freeze for a few seconds every 1-2 minutes
ocean raptor
my computer has a hard time waking from sleep, it's pretty 50/50 if it'll come back on, but that's just FreeBSD
lime pivot
easily could have been vmware or something though, idk
ocean raptor
my computer has a hard time waking from sleep, it's pretty 50/50 if it'll come b...
also, I'm pretty sure it's the intel integrated drivers causing that issue
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does Intel maintain official FreeBSD drivers?
primal perch
last I remember is an issue I couldn’t explain whatsoever where my Windows 10/11...
the eve spectrum doesnt have hdmi 2.1 doesi t
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it does have whichever was the latest at the time
which is probably still the latest I guess
ocean raptor
does Intel maintain official FreeBSD drivers?
FreeBSD has LinuxKPI, a kernel interface so that they can port linux drivers to FreeBSD
lime pivot
so no I guess lmao
ocean raptor
so no I guess lmao
yeah
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I’m sure it works fine but that’s still a shame
ocean raptor
so they ported i915 and some other drivers using that
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gotcha
ocean raptor
iirc linuxkpi was made for this
primal perch
looks like it does have 2 hdmi 2.1 ports
ocean raptor
but licensing issues got in the way so it's in a separate repo and you have to install from ports
primal perch
assuming the ports are full 48gbps then you could get a RDNA2 card and get a 4k 144hz 10 bit signal off that
no DSC
but eh
big ordeal
for 2 bits and 24hz
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I might still consider “downgrading” to a lower tier 6xxx card
been thinking about it
primal perch
yea it wouldnt be a bad idea imho
with US prices anyway
6600xts are like 350$
brand new off newegg
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I don’t need the power of the 5700XT it was just the only cost effective option I had
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hmm really
primal perch
yeah its a discrete gpu with 0 hardware encoding and only 4 pcie lanes
pretty big joke
so 1. you need pcie 4 to fully use it and even then the no hardware encoding is sad
primal perch
even my skylake igpu has hardware encoding
the 6600 is good though
8 pcie lanes and proper encoders
macos support as well (6600/6600xt, 6800/6800xt/6900xt)
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I could maybe even be convinced to go for a low end ARC card if they start showing up here
primal perch
intel is really missing out by not selling one of those
150$ ARC gpu with all the quicksync features would sell like hotcakes
make it passive too
75W
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I'm more glad to support Intel given they had ARC drivers in Linux from day 1 (I'd imagine it's probably based on i915 anyway) and full hardware AV1 encode/decode
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which will only become more relevant when AV1 support becomes as expected as VP9 is now
ignore that it took 10 years for Apple to support VP9 on their devices where they have full control over GPU design
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it's enabled only for YouTube yeah
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Google were doing CPU decode in the YouTube app to get 1080 and up, you can tell that even the website isn't allowed to use VP9 because it only gives you options up to 720
primal perch
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that's not confusing at all
yeah, no ARC cards on sale here yet
I can however buy a sticker of an ARC card for $3.72
primal perch
true
restive ether
Google were doing CPU decode in the YouTube app to get 1080 and up, you can tell...
i get a 1080 option
no 2 or 4k though
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oh huh which phone?
restive ether
13
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could be a hardware specific thing I guess, not getting it on 12
restive ether
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ok that UI is different than what I've seen
always gotten their usual clunky ass mobile UI
restive ether
i removed all the custom players from safari
native player might bypass the. 720 restriction somehow, idk
tepid olive
yikes
restive ether
oh i guess it does
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interesting I see 240p and you don't
remains a mystery how YouTube decides which options to display in that list
restive ether
i don’t think i’ve ever played a 4k video on youtube
primal perch
its the same info but in a different UI
idk why they felt the need to make a new one
lime pivot
yeah I saw that too
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I guess they added older models to it now because I recall it only being that way back to like 9th gen
I think they do 4K but it's actually upscaled 1080
just an extra option to get higher bitrate of the same image
restive ether
the dude who made this extension needs to change the ui for ios 16
primal perch
crapbook air
still more ram than m1 base model
and the trackpad/kb doesnt work
most everything else seems to
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didn't know that plugging an iOS device into a gnome desktop interrupts the entire system with a modal window asking you to trust the phone
primal perch
windows doesnt do something that bad but it interrupts my bordless windowed games for it
have to alt tab back in
pisses me off still
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always feels like the OSes are forever cursed to allow apps to steal focus so it doesn't break legitimate cases
primal perch
@grave sparrow
i hate the new about this mac
so dumbed down
in reality its just the old one
throwback to snow leopard
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here's a fun one, when I trigger an open/save dialog in vscode it appears behind vscode and I get a "Code is ready" notification
(Gnome's way of indicating an app attempted to steal focus)
primal perch
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there are no updates.
zenith hatch
new settings app looks seggs
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at least the more Apple dogfoods their big new frameworks the more they realise how they fall short
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horrible but necessary, of course
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I'd wager the design of about this mac is really not that big a deal
turbid fjord
I'd wager the design of about this mac is really not that big a deal
But it’s the small changes that build up that matters to me