development

[ornate hamlet]

it's just there?

yes it is

added in ios 7

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/790744558744764426.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

shit

why isnt my clipboard working

that was the last thing copied to my clipbard

anyways see for yourself https://developer.apple.com/documentation/foundation/nsuserdefaults/1409957-initwithsuitename

[lime pivot]

does this update when eg preferences updates values in the plist?

no, prefs bundle

like does it update as expected if the user changes a setting from your prefs bundle

so it does work then, hm

yeah the notification is a slight inconvenience but Cephei already requires a darwin notification so that’s fine

iOS 12+ updates instantly now, these days you can KVO observe keys on NSUserDefaults

but it’s wonky especially when sandboxed so I don’t rely on it in Cephei

how2?

this is what Cephei does https://github.com/hbang/libcephei/blob/main/HBPreferences.m#L134

_container is “/var/mobile” when sandboxed

oh my bad, it’s kCFPreferencesNoContainer;

[tepid olive]

but why though

[lime pivot]

theoretically that’s supposed to work, but cfprefsd since about iOS 11 does a sandbox_check() for user-preference-read of the suite name, and sandbox denies it

even though, apparently, working around it is as simple as specifying the full path

sorry I’m talking about the way cephei does it

[lime pivot]

considered using that directly but I figured I should be able to achieve the same stuff from the public APIs

or at least the private APIs that are the public APIs with an extra argument

luckily those haven’t changed since introduction in iOS 8.0

_CFX feels too private to depend on if I can get away without it

yeah for sure

just less fun to find something that’ll work on all of iOS 5.0 - 14.8.1 heh

that said there’s already plenty of version-specific differences, 5.0-7.1 predate cfprefsd and are very lax about sandboxing prefs, 8.0+ first to use cfprefsd, 9.3+ support writing prefs as non-root, 11.0+ use an ugly IPC sandbox workaround

had to remind myself what half of them are lmao

being able to avoid the double IPC (cephei to springboard to cfprefsd and back) would be great

my best idea was always to hook cfprefsd and patch the sandbox_check() call to always succeed, but the jb support for that is inconsistent

well, succeed in “safe” conditions rather, Cephei already protects against some dangerous Apple prefs from being read in the sandbox

[lime pivot]

@plain python libhooker supports injecting into cfprefsd now, yeah?

yeah it’s yuck

who reads them or what kind of prefs?

nobody I know of but that’s a good thing I spose, caught a security flaw before anyone else noticed

any prefixed com.apple. plus a few extra unprefixed ones

there are some things in there like your Apple ID name, email, number, photo, also recently contacted numbers/emails

those are protected by sandbox IIRC

but I’m specifically bypassing sandbox with IPC when the sandbox_check() call fails, so I need to make a best effort to prevent risks the sandbox was previously handling for us

given the opportunity to break compatibility I would gladly make it use a prefix like jb. instead

but oh well

[plain python]

on Chimera 1.5+, Odyssey and Taurine, yes

well so that's basically all libhooker jailbreaks

since Chimera 1.4 was hybrid substitute

[lime pivot]

IMO it already did ages ago. cable still exists solely because it would be bad business to cancel cable accounts that theoretically will be renewed monthly forever until the account owner dies

[plain python]

my parents still keeping a landline phone be like

[lime pivot]

I can bet that starts becoming unviable to continue running when most of the boomer generation has died out

[plain python]

nah that's how they price gouge you for shit internet over coax

[lime pivot]

seems like it would make a lot of sense to ditch the TV part of it and use the entire bandwidth for internet

well, logical sense, not business sense

business would say yes keep charging people for something they don’t want

depends how busy I get with study but otherwise yep

[vivid dew]

the coal industry association of france

[tepid olive]

coolsta etef

coolstar

in development

🤯

im too drunk for this

cannot type

[tepid olive]

fuck franc e 🖕

[vivid dew]

@shy quiver happy borthday big man

[graceful gate]

For real?

[tepid olive]

who is that

oh you’re triangle

go figure

la pendu

[lime pivot]

also hbd @restive ether

[tepid olive]

fn r slags jaime a

LOL

no puedo decir nada

sin error

expected rub

tbh

[lime pivot]

GNU Imp moment

ever just overflow allocating 18446744073709551615*18446744073709551615 bytes

[restive ether]

thank you thank you

[restive ether]

show me your camera roll.

[restive ether]

which facebook mom did you get this off of

[vivid dew]

this one

[restive ether]

she’s bad

[zenith hatch]

smh

[vivid dew]

really?

[zenith hatch]

what

[vivid dew]

you didn’t strike me as that kind of person

[zenith hatch]

???

[restive ether]

yeah true

[ocean raptor]

kCFPreferencesNoContainer is "/var/mobile"

[ocean raptor]

Are you poomsmart?

[graceful gate]

Yep

[lime pivot]

there was some specific reason no container was different from just passing "/var/mobile", it did do that originally but no container ended up being more consistent or something like that

[ocean raptor]

Well they can change it anytime they want for one

[lime pivot]

they can change a lot about behavior cephei assumes anyway I guess

[ocean raptor]

I didn't recognize you without the cat pfp. Do you have have your other pics of your cat? I'll trade

This little cat was chasing a bug around my room all night then this morning kept biting me to wake me up

I agree anytime I "don't" feed her she hits me 😭

She begged me for food then when I gave it to her she just ignored it smh

[turbid fjord]

Cat life moment

Literally do nothing but annoy you

[ocean raptor]

No

She sleeps most of the day

But never next to me, so that's annoying

[lime pivot]

cutie

[ocean raptor]

Go ahead, send pics of your cat

[turbid fjord]

Fr

The circle of life

[lime pivot]

yes sir

[ocean raptor]

What it's name?

[lime pivot]

Oreo our favorite little boy

[ocean raptor]

Cute

[restive ether]

outback cat

[graceful gate]

Lol that cat in my usual avatar ain’t even my cat (from 9gag)

I just like that cat photo that’s all there is to it

[ocean raptor]

I've been lied to

[graceful gate]

But if you asked me, yes I’m indeed a cat person

Here’s one from a cat cafe

[ocean raptor]

Cute

[primal perch]

fr

idk why you’d want a pet that just breaks shit and is loud

[turbid fjord]

Dogs too

Dogs are vile and I’ll take that my grave

No I am not

There is literally nothing appealing about dogs

[hasty ruin]

I hate big dogs

[turbid fjord]

Even in public they just bark, piss and jump up at people

[hasty ruin]

And tiny ones

[turbid fjord]

Tiny dogs are ok because you can control them easier

Still hate them

But they aren’t as bad

[hasty ruin]

tiny dogs look stupid

[turbid fjord]

True

Sausage dogs

[hasty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-fail-frisbee-gif-24192005

Good sized dog

[turbid fjord]

Big dogs lick everyone
Smell other dogs arses
Jump up and eat random peoples food

[turbid fjord]

Suppose so

Small dogs do not have the physical capacity to do that

So they are tolerable

Further more most dog owners are weird

most

[hasty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-cat-lady-cat-lady-gif-6030066

[turbid fjord]

They either treat it like a baby and give it hugs and kisses
Or they have no control over it and let them lick plates clean and stuff and piss everyone and that

Well true
Normally I just take my hearing aids out but I realise not everyone has that option

[turbid fjord]

It’s THIS sort of behaviour that makes me want to vomit inside

I have 1 Guinea pig
Other one died mid lockdown and can’t find a spare Guinea pig so

[turbid fjord]

True

[primal perch]

if a pet doesn’t submit to my authority then i don’t even want it

i would just have kids at that point

[high citrus]

could anyone review this pr?

yeah it's not that bad

[undone nest]

just squash the commits at that point

[zenith hatch]

what dat and what it do

[high citrus]

it merges multiple commits into one single commit

[zenith hatch]

ah ok

[lime pivot]

FYI my good friends https://twitter.com/aarnavtale/status/1514978715595427841

Aarnav Tale (@aarnavtale)

🔔 Logos for VS Code just received an update

Just made some small syntax support cleanup and added support for people using VS Code on the web 🌐

As always, source is at https://t.co/fyQg2kWPU0
You can get it on the VS Code Marketplace

Twitter · Apr 15, 2022, 2:47 PM

[lime pivot]

hahah, not really, once they grow up to an adult they stop caring about anything and sleep all day

[undone nest]

thanks kirb

[lime pivot]

like oreo

he sleeps in the backyard all day (because it gets shade) and then at night he goes out to the front yard and stares at the other cats on the street

mostly going back to sleep in between

[restive ether]

using emojis in tweets makes you a rust user

also if logos for VS code isn’t pinned can someone add it

i’m being lazy

[lime pivot]

@tepid olive the cameren man has opinions

[restive ether]

noooo

why do you people do this to me

he’s gonna bully me again

[restive ether]

thanks oreo’s owner

[lime pivot]

you're welcome birthday admin

[restive ether]

layla thanks you as well

[undone nest]

cute

[ocean raptor]

Imagine having a dog

[restive ether]

your cat makes your house smell like piss

also it’s a service dog bozo!

[ocean raptor]

No, my mom was very worried about that when we got clementine so she asked a ton of people and none of them thought our house smelled like cat

[restive ether]

they lied

[ocean raptor]

Service deez nuts

[restive ether]

how would you like them serviced

[primal perch]

i forgor

[ocean raptor]

Wax

[restive ether]

gm

fix libedit

[ocean raptor]

wdym?

no

cause we support building on linux

and FreeBSD

and on iOS

why?

don't do that

[zenith hatch]

xcode on da windows wen

[ocean raptor]

yes

[primal perch]

what OS?

[ocean raptor]

I've built it multiple times

I built it like 3 times for each target when building the debs and fixing the header installation

[zenith hatch]

[primal perch]

andrew

[ocean raptor]

Literally no one else ever has issues

[zenith hatch]

walter

[primal perch]

probably

with how much you mess up your shit

ur ssd probably already about to die

[zenith hatch]

in what ways have you fucked it

upside down?

[primal perch]

200TBW already

apple when they solder it on so you pay more

should be a m.2 2230 sized ssd or something

but nah

even though basically any ssd there is capable of the same speeds as soldering it on

[zenith hatch]

true

[primal perch]

probably longer with modern drives

still doesn’t cover random failure though

[zenith hatch]

well fuck my mbp is now 7 years old

[primal perch]

soldered ram makes some sense because of latency with moving it away from the cpu

but storage is already slow as fuck compared to ram

[zenith hatch]

true

[turbid fjord]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933826688872239215/933829777549316126/Screenshot_2022-01-20_at_21.06.05.png

[primal perch]

so there’s really no reason to solder on flash

[turbid fjord]

My MacBook on 20th January this year which is 1 year 1 day after I received it

M1 air

256gb

Could be worse

[primal perch]

yea not bad

4tbw is nothing

my main ssd has 51tbw

for my windows machine

[turbid fjord]

Considering early m1 versions had SSD issues I think it’s quite good

[turbid fjord]

Lol

[primal perch]

i think that was a software thing subway

[turbid fjord]

Yeah it was

[primal perch]

anyway

[primal perch]

rip those mfs with 100tbw tho lmao

[turbid fjord]

True

MacBook with less storage than iPhones

[primal perch]

if you’re up to date ur fine apparently

as in no more damage will be done

[turbid fjord]

No I mean early big sur software on m1
It fixed about march time iirc

So basically early m1 versions I guess

Lol I remember

Yes

[primal perch]

i remember getting pinged about it every 2 ms

[turbid fjord]

True true

[zenith hatch]

the broken gestures pissed me off

[primal perch]

this is why i didn’t buy m1

[zenith hatch]

[primal perch]

wait a year for maturity

gg

[zenith hatch]

wholesome

[turbid fjord]

WWDC is either gonna be epic for apple silicon or suck

[lethal kayak]

a truly riveting observation

[primal perch]

lmao

true

today i will either live or die

[gentle grove]

https://tenor.com/view/blessings-good-friday-gif-11519959

[ocean raptor]

>  env                                                     
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
USER=cameron
LOGNAME=cameron
HOME=/Users/cameron
PATH=/Users/cameron/.local/bin:/opt/procursus/bin:/opt/procursus/sbin:/opt/procursus/games:/opt/procursus/bin:/opt/procursus/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Library/Apple/usr/bin:/Users/cameron/.cargo/bin
SHELL=/bin/zsh
TERM=xterm-256color
SSH_TTY=/dev/ttys000
TMPDIR=/var/folders/9f/yyzybvnx6nq5qf1c9m2g0s2c0000gs/T/
SHLVL=1
PWD=/Users/cameron
OLDPWD=/Users/cameron
THEOS=/Users/cameron/Documents/theos
CODESIGN_IDENTITY=2842A5E571456B5CF31B65BFD1929DE22909FD97
ZSH=/Users/cameron/.oh-my-zsh
PAGER=less
LESS=--use-color -FiMRx2$z-4$Dd+c$Du+g
LSCOLORS=Gxfxcxdxbxegedabagacad
SPACESHIP_VERSION=3.16.1
SPACESHIP_ROOT=/Users/cameron/.oh-my-zsh/custom/themes/spaceship-prompt
EDITOR=nvim
COLORTERM=1
CLICOLOR=1
GPG_TTY=/dev/ttys000
MAN_USE_MANDOC=N
_=/usr/bin/env

(with some ssh vars redacted)

[primal perch]

agreed

[gentle grove]

It is bad ffirdya

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow

> cat /etc/zprofile            
# System-wide profile for interactive zsh(1) login shells.

# Setup user specific overrides for this in ~/.zprofile. See zshbuiltins(1)
# and zshoptions(1) for more details.

if [ -x /usr/libexec/path_helper ]; then
    eval `/usr/libexec/path_helper -s`
fi
export PATH="/opt/procursus/bin:/opt/procursus/sbin:/opt/procursus/games:$PATH"

[lime pivot]

never actually happened, smartctl was just reading the bytes read/written fields wrong

[ocean raptor]

> cat ~/.zprofile         
alias make='gmake'
#export DEB_MAINTAINER="Cameron Katri <[e-mail]>"
export THEOS=~/Documents/theos

#export CODESIGN_IDENTITY="BCED5E2F52B15C5A294DDAD83BA2EB771221DA2E" # Cameron Katri
export CODESIGN_IDENTITY="2842A5E571456B5CF31B65BFD1929DE22909FD97" # Hayden Seay

[lime pivot]

everyone was using smartctl to check, and smartctl was wrong

[ocean raptor]

> cat ~/.zshrc   
export ZSH="/Users/cameron/.oh-my-zsh"

fpath=(/opt/procursus/share/zsh/site-functions $fpath)

ZSH_THEME="spaceship"
plugins=(git man mosh)
source $ZSH/oh-my-zsh.sh

SPACESHIP_PROMPT_ORDER=(time user dir host git package node docker venv pyenv exec_time line_sep battery vi_mode jobs exit_code char)

export LANG=en_US.UTF-8

export EDITOR=nvim
export COLORTERM=1 CLICOLOR=1
bindkey '^E' edit-command-line
alias sudo='sudo '
alias fuzz="fzf --preview 'bat --style=numbers,changes --color=always --line-range :500 {}' --preview-window=right:66%"
alias sort='LC_ALL=C sort'
# https://reviews.freebsd.org/D30545
alias diff='LC_ALL=C TZ=UTC diff'
alias diffstat='/opt/procursus/bin/diffstat -C'

setopt AUTO_CD
cdpath=(. ~/Documents)

export GPG_TTY=$(tty)
export LESS='--use-color -FiMRx2$z-4$Dd+c$Du+g'
export MAN_USE_MANDOC=N
#export PAGER="/opt/procursus/bin/less"

source /opt/procursus/share/zsh-syntax-highlighting/zsh-syntax-highlighting.zsh
source /opt/procursus/share/zsh-autosuggestions/zsh-autosuggestions.zsh

export PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$PATH"

@grave sparrow ^^^

[stoic wave]

Hello, strangers! I've got an inquiry to put to you. What is the process for building an app in XCODE so that it can be deployed on a jailbroken device? If I recall, it's possible to build an unsigned package which can be used with a device with AppSync Unified. I've completely forgotten how to do this, as it's been forever since I last did so.

[tepid olive]

cargo

rust so good

[ocean raptor]

Only cause I have to use rustup toolchains when compiling for iOS

[tepid olive]

honestly i do not know but pretty sure there’s like a theos template or somethin? probably completely wrong im still a bit drunk

[tepid olive]

xD

[stoic wave]

I think there were instructions over at akemi.ai from AppSync Unified's developer a long time ago, but I cannot seem to find them. My Googling skills seem subpar today.

[turbid fjord]

Yes Ty

[ocean raptor]

@stoic wave just pack it into an ipa and use ideviceinstaller

[turbid fjord]

Oh huh was never told that
Well TIL

[ocean raptor]

https://akemi.ai/?page/how2asu

Xcode 6

[pearl sail]

be like me. forget cargo exist and just cargo and rust who???

[next wadi]

shouldnt it be His

[ocean raptor]

I wish

[lime pivot]

I don’t blame you, the media basically stopped caring as soon as the root cause was figured out as not actually being Apple’s fault

[turbid fjord]

Yeah not surprised
All I remember was a software update and no one mentioned it after that

[lime pivot]

they love a good Apple Bad story, but one where Apple was actually in the right, not so much

[turbid fjord]

Yeah

True

[primal perch]

i mean every media outlet has been sucking off the M1 for over a year

it’s pretty good yeah i’m just saying there’s plenty of “apple good ” narrative too

[stoic wave]

Thanks, Captain Panda. I'll be back when I figure out something else that I've probably forgotten.

I see your profile pic, and extrapolate from there.

[pearl sail]

We call him the Professional Dumbass at times as well

Hey at least you have Professional in front of that title I am just dumbass

[lime pivot]

Captain Panda, T

like my favorite app, Rufus, the Reliable USB Formatting Utility, S

[stoic wave]

So, Captain (Panda)⁴, Registered Professional Dumbass. Got it.

[next wadi]

nfr

i thought it was a kanye reference

true

twistin dope

lean

and the fanta

[ocean raptor]

did y'all know that gettext distributes precompiled windows binaries

https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gettext/gettext-tools-0.13.1.bin.woe32.zip

woe32

[gentle grove]

It does say his

[next wadi]

no

His

capital

[gentle grove]

its a pronoun

you don't capitalize pronouns

[lethal kayak]

you do when it's God

[gentle grove]

wtf did god change English

[lethal kayak]

it's in like

every christian text

lol

[gentle grove]

ok

[lethal kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-review-cat-kitty-review-gif-20973774

[gentle grove]

Last time I read one though was probably when I was like 8 or something

[ocean raptor]

god is a weird word. When referring to the actual God it's capital, when referring to god like, ie when Jesus is called god, it's lowercase, or when referring to false gods. That has caused lots of confusion for people thinking the Bible says that Jesus and God are the same person. But God's pronouns can be capitalized but it doesn't matter. Technically capitalizing it is against grammatical rules but it is still allowed

It gets really weird with God vs god when they are used in the same sentence

Like at John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.

("the Word" is a title used for Jesus)

TL;DR: English is weird and capitals are strangely important sometimes

[restive ether]

only real christian’s read the original greek version of the bible

if you read the king james version you’re a heretic

[ocean raptor]

I don't know Greek

Or Hebrew

So I can't read any part of the Bible

[restive ether]

skill issue, you worship false idols

[ocean raptor]

King James don't remove gods actual name challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[restive ether]

king james don’t rewrite the bible so you can murder your wives challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)

[ocean raptor]

You gotta get a good translation that is accurate and in modern English (or whatever your native language is)

Like the NWT

[ocean raptor]

Or Aramaic

[restive ether]

even then a lot of stuff and intent gets lost in translation

they just don’t transfer over from language to language sometimes

[zenith hatch]

[ocean raptor]

Yeah, Greek and Hebrew both have multiple words that translate to "love" each with a slightly different meaning

So whenever you see love in the Bible you gotta look up which one it used so that you can understand what they are trying to say

[restive ether]

god bless translating 1,500 year old text to a modern day language

thank you rosetta 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[gentle grove]

Spanish has multiple words for love too

[ocean raptor]

Good for them

If only English was the same

[gentle grove]

Spanish is cool

[ocean raptor]

I took Spanish last semester

[gentle grove]

nice

[ocean raptor]

No idea how I got an A tbh

I know literally 0 Spanish

[gentle grove]

wow

[ocean raptor]

And I live in FL

[gentle grove]

we've been doing Spanish since like first grade

[ocean raptor]

My Spanish teacher was also my English teacher

[gentle grove]

nice

[ocean raptor]

She majored in English and minored in Spanish

I also took Spanish last year

The only Spanish I know is "Como Estás"

[gentle grove]

I need to.figure out the most complicated Spanish sentence I can make

[ocean raptor]

But now that I have my required foreign language classes for hs graduation I will never take another Spanish class

[gentle grove]

aw

[edgy mauve]

uh

can someone link a good noob guide to making iOS apps

[primal perch]

God bless*

[primal perch]

laugh at this user he is still in hs

[ocean raptor]

just finished my physics class 🙏

[primal perch]

ew anime

based physics

[ocean raptor]

It was an introduction physics class

Got a 69 on the final though

But it's weighted the same as the other exams. And I got As and Bs on all the other quizzes and exams so I'll be getting a low A or a high B in the class

[main apex]

Anime > Physics

[primal perch]

[main apex]

Says the guy with a pokemon profile pic which is from an anime, lol

[primal perch]

yeah i love pokémon

not anime in general

over sexualized and uninteresting

[ocean raptor]

Have you seen NGE

[primal perch]

me whenever i say that: 100 weebs be like “have you tried X”

[ocean raptor]

NGE and JJBA fans: "I am better than everyone else"

The world would be much better if physics didn't exist

[primal perch]

bro it’s literally just some math and some newtons

not hard

yea i looked at some hentai once and the person looked 9 years old

instantly left

shits weird

fr

[vivid dew]

franime

[zenith hatch]

but lillie is from pokemon too-

fuck i lost my burger

[primal perch]

mg burger

magnesium burger?

[zenith hatch]

tasty shit yk

[gentle grove]

should i learn how to use subversion

[ocean raptor]

No

Learn cvs so you can contribute to openBSD

[primal perch]

openbsd died dawg

[ocean raptor]

Imagine being an idiot

Go ahead, use dropbear

[primal perch]

youre the one who thinks BSD is still relevant

only for like servers

[ocean raptor]

Imagine thinking Linux is still relevant
only for like servers

[primal perch]

yeah i 100% agree

desktop linux kinda blows

[gentle grove]

was linux alive

[ocean raptor]

We should just settle for win, I agree

[gentle grove]

was bsd alive

[ocean raptor]

Who cares about having a good OS

Just use the most popular thing

[primal perch]

this but unironically

[ocean raptor]

Why do you use macOS? Windows is much more popular and has much better app support

[primal perch]

i use windows

[ocean raptor]

Why do you use iOS? Android is much more popular and has better app support

[primal perch]

kinda true tbh

[gentle grove]

i use android

[primal perch]

id love to use a more open system but not at the expense of constantly configuring each application

and having some of my favorite applications not work

[gentle grove]

just make them work

[ocean raptor]

@primal perch seriously the options for operating systems are

1. Windows - don't even have to say why it's terrible
2. macOS - requires an expensive mac/hackintoshes are not viable
3. GNU/Linux - then I have to use GNU, and a very non-unified system, have to pick a distro, every user is elitist, have to grow neckbeard, can't take showers anymore
4. *BSD - full system that works together seemlessly

[primal perch]

1. is required for pc gaming, although linux is quickly becoming a substitute
2. great OS but limited in hardware support and closed wall
3. terrible because its so fragmented
4. might be well designed but has almost 0 commercial support

[gentle grove]

i would use bsd if there was someone else that used it

[ocean raptor]

4. FreeBSD is literally sponsored by and used extensively by Netflix

[primal perch]

0 commercial support with the intention of improving consumer use*

[ocean raptor]

I can count the amount of users on one hand

[primal perch]

and almost no app support

[gentle grove]

that';s incredible

[ocean raptor]

That's a LOT

[gentle grove]

you can count to 5

ok but actually though im too lazy to try bsd

[primal perch]

this is also a linux argument. "it works great for servers!!", to which i say yes it is. but for a consumer desktop OS its still pretty bad

[ocean raptor]

It's an ssh server, cause OpenSSH is developed by OpenBSD

[gentle grove]

jokes on you my desktop IS a server

[high citrus]

Just make your own operating system

[ocean raptor]

X over ssh?

[primal perch]

and ironically netflix doesnt support freebsd for watching their videos at all

[gentle grove]

in what way does netflix support bsd then

[primal perch]

it uses freebsd for their servers

[ocean raptor]

Sounds like something a rust developer would do so that the entire kernel is memory safe

[primal perch]

thats about all

[gentle grove]

too late they already did that

https://www.redox-os.org/

[ocean raptor]

Ik 😭

[primal perch]

which is why its a stretch to say netflix supports freebsd

[gentle grove]

i dont have high hz so kde works fine for me

[primal perch]

they leech off of it like companies do

[gentle grove]

and its 2022

[ocean raptor]

Let me guess, the entire thing is wrapped in unsafe

[primal perch]

lmao

probably

rust users doing literally anything

unsafe

[lofty juniper]

lemme know when ur dwm works fine with mixed refresh rates on nvidia

[primal perch]

never

[lofty juniper]

then i will never use foss!

suck my nuts!

[primal perch]

based

af

[gentle grove]

i dont use dwm anymore plus it's terrible with mixed dpi on xorg i think

[ocean raptor]

I could imagine a rust dev writing an allocator in rust so that it's memory-safe then wrapping everything in unsafe but still bragging about it being memory safe

[gentle grove]

i think thats more an xorg thing than picom/dwm

[gentle grove]

isnt rustc already an allocatior writeten in rust

god discord is so laggy

[primal perch]

to be fair encapsulating lower level interfaces is a good idea

but you can easily do that in any other language

[lofty juniper]

i'm not talking about some shitty dwm called dwm

[primal perch]

whereas rust mfs act like its new

[gentle grove]

i typed that message and it literally sat there typing the letters for about 3 seconds afterwards

[primal perch]

no

[primal perch]

dwm.exe baby

it actually works

lets go

[gentle grove]

i thought dwm.exe supported mixed dpi

does it not??

[ocean raptor]

No like they write a custom malloc(3) in rust

Like jemalloc

[lofty juniper]

ofc windows supports mixed dpi

[gentle grove]

so what dwm were you talking about then

[lofty juniper]

any

bozo

any linux de

[gentle grove]

what other dwms are there

than suckless dwm

sucky dwm

[lofty juniper]

are u able to read

[gentle grove]

what am i not reading

im confused

[lofty juniper]

let me know when i can have mixed refresh rates on any linux de

with nvidia

[primal perch]

fn safe_allocator(size: u32) -> idk {
  unsafe {
    let ptr = malloc(size);
    if ptr == 0 {
      panic!("oh no it failed");
    }
    ptr
  }
}```

average rust code

[gentle grove]

oh i was going off of what you said originally

[primal perch]

its totally safe!!

[gentle grove]

i dont have mixed refresh rate so i cant help

[lofty juniper]

ye i clarified

the answer is u can't

cause linux shitter

[gentle grove]

i do have mixed dpi

[gentle grove]

i think you can on wayland

[primal perch]

stuttering all day

[lofty juniper]

on nvidia

i said

[gentle grove]

yes

[primal perch]

yeah wayland blows on nvidia still

[ocean raptor]

Very safe, thanks rust devs

[gentle grove]

you can use wayland on nvidia

especially with GBM

[primal perch]

its better than it was but a slightly better shit is still shit

[gentle grove]

but kde doesnt support GBM nvidia

apparently it's supposed to butg it doesnt for me

wtf

https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/drwt7f/psa_gnome_334_wayland_supports_mixed_refresh_rates/

on what exactly though

[primal perch]

i think you might be the only person happy with nvidia on linux boba

[gentle grove]

fr

wtf

use the proprietary one

what distro

[primal perch]

linux moment

"what distro"

[gentle grove]

what am i supposed to do

just guess?

[lofty juniper]

lmao

[primal perch]

@ocean raptor even when you do install linux like neckbeards want, you always get assaulted for your distro of choice

[gentle grove]

i'm not even trying to do that

[primal perch]

yea i was just trlling

ik you werent

[gentle grove]

i can't do it for every single distro because they have differnet packages

they're basically different operating sytsems

[primal perch]

kek

[gentle grove]

so there's a huge difference

[ocean raptor]

If I have to use Linux I refuse to use anything except Debian

[primal perch]

noooo you have to use arch!!

or gentoo

or whatever cringe they spew

[gentle grove]

windows dev is wacky

without wsl

[primal perch]

yea windows development is ass

you pretty much have to use msys or wsl

which is just linux

[ocean raptor]

I used arch for a long time, then switched to a Systemd-less arch unironically

[lofty juniper]

jesus christ

dog shit

[primal perch]

both suck

developing FOR linux also kinda sucks

[gentle grove]

yep wayland can do mixed dpi it seems

xorg cannot

[primal perch]

developing for macos is easily the best

[ocean raptor]

I tried and failed to install gentoo

[gentle grove]

why does everyone say exact opposite things

[primal perch]

advantages of a closed system

[ocean raptor]

I agree

[gentle grove]

earlier someone was complaining because xorg is bad so they hate macos dev

[primal perch]

fr

[ocean raptor]

Except you can't create fully static binaries

[gentle grove]

i mean

[primal perch]

if there was one unified way to do things on linux companies might finally bother

[gentle grove]

at least i dont have to spend 40 minutes installing my ide

every update

[primal perch]

but theres like 30234923865

[gentle grove]

FLATPAK

[ocean raptor]

Shut up

[gentle grove]

what

[primal perch]

and if you have a different init system or something then it doesnt matter anyway

because some random bug from 10 years ago will kill you

[gentle grove]

what is the problem with flatpak

[primal perch]

writing c++

[lofty juniper]

if only there was a unified solution *gets suggested solution* shut up

avg linux user

[primal perch]

no

the libraries it depends on do

namely SDL2

[gentle grove]

that was from a bsd user

doesnt count

[ocean raptor]

Developing for a unified system like macOS or BSD is the best. Linux is too split up to do anything reasonably. And nothing works on windows

[primal perch]

we tried to use as little platform specific code as possible

the open file dialog is

thats it

[gentle grove]

fr

[primal perch]

apps work fine on windows when made, the only problem is picking one library to do it

microsoft has like 13

and only like 2 are deprecated

so it makes development cancer

win32, wpf, .net, etc

[gentle grove]

that made no sense ignore

[primal perch]

you literally are bombarded by all that junk

[ocean raptor]

Just write all your windows app with winObjC

EZ

[gentle grove]

there should be an opposite of wine

[ocean raptor]

WSL

[gentle grove]

so you can write programs for linux and run them on windows

[gentle grove]

oh im stuipid

i forgor

yeah but does it work well with gui

[primal perch]

WSL1 is namely

but microsoft abandoned that in favor of VMs

[ocean raptor]

What distro though

[gentle grove]

just write distroless programs

fr

use golang

[ocean raptor]

If only that was possible

[gentle grove]

then you dont even need an OS

[gentle grove]

it certainly is

[primal perch]

you know what, fuck all this OS garbage

im using pen and paper

[ocean raptor]

Sadly not even that unreasonable of a suggestion

[gentle grove]

lmao

[primal perch]

my messenger pigeon is on its way to you guys rn

[gentle grove]

are there even any go libs for gui

[ocean raptor]

Sry, forgot about bare metal binaries

[primal perch]

too bad im limited to one message / day

[gentle grove]

how do you know wherei live

[ornate hamlet]

How come when i setuid(0) it looks different

[ocean raptor]

fermui

[primal perch]

based batteryhomebar user

[gentle grove]

because uid 0 is root

am i missing something there

when you become root the username is root

[ocean raptor]

Stop

[ornate hamlet]

No look at the size and the tab bar

[ocean raptor]

Don't make another package manager

[ornate hamlet]

It changed

[ocean raptor]

Cause it's loading root's preferences not mobile's

[gentle grove]

just say it's a feature

[ocean raptor]

Don't setuid your app

Use a helper program

[ornate hamlet]

So i fork instead?

[ocean raptor]

Communicate to a helper program over xpc or something

[primal perch]

yea or spawn a process with root rights

that will setuid itself idk

[ornate hamlet]

Alr

[primal perch]

encapsulate root privileges

major security risk otherwise

[ornate hamlet]

Wdym

[ocean raptor]

Make sure you lock it down like giveMeRoot though

[primal perch]

keep root perms limited to as little as possible

[ornate hamlet]

oh alr

[gentle grove]

trunk perms

[primal perch]

meanwhile systemd is a gaping vulnerability

i cant believe how much code is in that junk running as root

[gentle grove]

what do the bsd users use

[primal perch]

runit

[ornate hamlet]

giveMeRoot is only setuid'ing

[gentle grove]

binit

[primal perch]

usually

[gentle grove]

oh

i will use Artix then

runit arch

[primal perch]

or something like it

nvm its a separate one

https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/kz1ax0/comment/gjjy6aj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[gentle grove]

tr

[ornate hamlet]

on linux i would just do

if (fork() == 0) {
  if (setuid(0) != -1) {
    execve(argv, argc);
  }
}

[gentle grove]

i dont even wanna start working on wordpress

[ornate hamlet]

would something like that work on ios

one is better

[lofty juniper]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[primal perch]

free ida has x64 only and lik 3 binary formats

[ornate hamlet]

i think arm64 support and decompiler

[primal perch]

ida pro works with literally every arch you can think of

[gentle grove]

i dont remember how to use windows

[ornate hamlet]

based

lmao is that gura

[gentle grove]

who

what is a gawr gura

is that a tv showe

[ornate hamlet]

Lmfao

Yep

[gentle grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688121419980341282/958050435988602920/ltxhb1fleco81.jpg

[primal perch]

[primal perch]

who is gura

[gentle grove]

god

[primal perch]

[gentle grove]

godess

[ornate hamlet]

Lmao

https://tenor.com/view/gawr-gura-gura-gawr-gura-a-hololive-gif-22943029

Yo?

[primal perch]

[gentle grove]

it is true

[ornate hamlet]

Wdym

Ok heres the link

https://ghidra-sre.org

Lmfao

Yeah ik stop asking for piracy

really?

@shut stag please come here

true

i have a zip

theres a mac version lmao

i have ida and hopper now

[grim sparrow]

Not a good time rn

[primal perch]

its 99$ dawg

broke

[ornate hamlet]

@tidal atlas is this true

I would not like to be banned

[tidal atlas]

Is what true

[ornate hamlet]

Is it true ida piracy is ok

Im skeptical

[tidal atlas]

Oh I mean let’s not talk about it

[tidal jungle]

[primal perch]

yea it is

microsoft piracy is too

[hasty ruin]

And Adobe

Don’t forget

[lime pivot]

yeah but feels like a slightly different story when people have been told their machines will die within barely a few years

pretty important I find out there’s been further research and we’ve learned that’s not the case

[ornate hamlet]

if its really actually ok am i allowed to send it in dms

or is that against the rules

[ocean raptor]

@ornate hamlet calm down, nobody cares about piracy in #development

[primal perch]

fr

we pirate all day

https://github.com/massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts/releases/tag/1.5

[tepid olive]

woo yeah its back

[ocean raptor]

can someone send me libxpc extracted from a dsc

[primal perch]

as of 14.6 @ocean raptor

[ocean raptor]

thanks

[primal perch]

ill just upload a whole zip of the 14.6 frameworks completely extracted with cynders dyldextractor

probably will be useful to someone

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gkdCri5EzbbzfP9UV3lq4t8Eapfl4q8A/view?usp=sharing

[ocean raptor]

7z

is this password protected like birdpoop

[primal perch]

no

if you like ill make it zstd

with 7z as well bc idc

shits 721MB though

[ornate hamlet]

So i can upload ida

[hasty ruin]

Sure

[ornate hamlet]

max file size is 100 mb please

damn

[ornate hamlet]

where do i even uplaod it

mediafire?

ig so

shee

MD5(pass) = "e58210e0861c9130f926b9d9ee7050cf"

[ornate hamlet]

Doesnt deserve a crown

[ornate hamlet]

M & m moment

[ornate hamlet]

Uploaded

[primal perch]

ew md5

use a cryptographically secure hash at least

it costs 0$ to use sha256

[gentle grove]

It costs $0 to use md5

MD_5 is the guy who makes spigot

[primal perch]

[ornate hamlet]

Its the point lol

Yo should i drop the password

[tepid olive]

wpf is so nice

i wish i could do everything in wpf

trimming?

[ornate hamlet]

How do yall pronounce QEMU

kway moo

[primal perch]

key moo

[zenith hatch]

unpopular opinion: cum you

[zenith hatch]

not false

[lime pivot]

that’s interesting. kind of a shame

makes sense for how WPF seems to be designed, which is to say, a mess

was extremely promising but they got distracted by Metro Immersive UWP WinUI. I’m sure they could have found a workaround to that trimming issue if they cared enough

[silver rampart]

not mine !!!!

https://github.com/arandomdev/DyldExtractor

https://headers.cynder.me/ also you can download the extracted binaries for any version here by clicking the version then clicking SDK.zip

[proper reef]

@grave sparrow remember that weird x8 function? turns out it really is very picky with registers for some reason

[indigo peak]

Q E M U

[misty cradle]

quantum emulator

[zenith hatch]

[ornate hamlet]

where did all my free disk space go?

hrmmmm

aha

its an internalui build for my iphone 5

i dont need it anymore

[ocean raptor]

@restive ether ban this person, they are blatantly pirating IDA and using stolen internal stuff

[ocean raptor]

And give me advanced dev

[ornate hamlet]

breh

i was told that its allowed in this channel or whatever

[ocean raptor]

talking about it: allowed
sharing links to it in this channel: not allowed

[ornate hamlet]

my bad

[ocean raptor]

imho

not officials rules

but use common sense smh

[ornate hamlet]

is hackintoshing allowed

[weary heath]

yeah

[ornate hamlet]

QEMU MacOS

[turbid fjord]

Ra1nstorm memories

[ornate hamlet]

how long does icloud take

can i skip

its a literal qemu vm

upgrading to monterey

just realized catalina has no 32 bit support

should i chuck this installation and reinstall an older one?

[ocean raptor]

Imagine running 32bit apps in 2022

[ornate hamlet]

fml

[zenith hatch]

@ornate hamlet you want mojave for 32bit

[ornate hamlet]

yeah

i changed my mind

i want monterey

[misty cradle]

is it him

💀

what tweaks did he even release

oh wait LMAOOO

this is the guy who stole my shit

https://twitter.com/D3vTitan/status/1365657800051986436

Hyperixa (@hyperixa)

Jarvis version 2.0 for iOS 12 - 14 available at Twickd

▶ Play video

Twitter · Feb 27, 2021, 1:39 PM

💀

D3vTitan link

Hyperixa renamed

yeah its titand3v

mf made the same tweak everytime

and then renamed it

with useless features

[restive ether]

yeah

[hasty ruin]

how many names have they gone by now

Titand3v

southerngirlwhocode

iOSThemem0d

Hyperixa

[zenith hatch]

who

oh

[hasty ruin]

(Also they swear that they’re not the same person as iOSThemem0d, despite me having hard evidence..)

[restive ether]

and the fact their design style is the exact same

[hasty ruin]

I was bored one night and wrote up 40 line document on why they’re the same

[ornate hamlet]

making my file manager

[hasty ruin]

Had different aspects, such as the way they talk, development design patterns, UI similarities, tweak compilation directories, “coincidental” timings, time they’ve slipped up in the past

Didn’t even release the document but still managed to give them a devastating ratio on Reddit

[misty cradle]

..

[ocean raptor]

23 page essay

[high citrus]

have you checked if there are compiliation paths in the tweak binary, see if the user dir is the same

[ornate hamlet]

imagine if i make my new file manager so good that i delete filza

[turbid fjord]

What the hell is the point in this?
Making an app? Making it paid? I hope this doesn’t succeed

[hasty ruin]

tweak compilation directories

yes

[high citrus]

i mean in the dylib

[hasty ruin]

Yeah, that includes the directory of which the tweak was compiled from

[high citrus]

just compile using Github actions

[ornate hamlet]

this looks better than filza's windowing

got this from a stackoverflow

[zenith hatch]

lol

[ornate hamlet]

Lmao what

[jovial sparrow]

Is objective c the main language to learn? Or should I also learn a bit about assembly, c, and swift?

[pearl sail]

assemble deez nutz

for what?

no I mean what branch

ios branch

1700

[queen yarrow]

@grave sparrow

[pearl sail]

checking for aarch64-apple-darwin-pkg-config... /Users/rolex/Procursus/build_tools/aarch64-apple-darwin-pkg-config
checking for /Users/rolex/Procursus/build_tools/aarch64-apple-darwin-pkg-config library directory... checking for first directory... /usr/lib/pkgconfig
checking if we should install .pc files for /Users/rolex/Procursus/build_tools/aarch64-apple-darwin-pkg-config... yes

1800 branch without rootless prefix

checking for aarch64-apple-darwin-pkg-config... /Users/rolex/Procursus/build_tools/aarch64-apple-darwin-pkg-config
checking for /Users/rolex/Procursus/build_tools/aarch64-apple-darwin-pkg-config library directory... checking for first directory... none
checking if we should install .pc files for /Users/rolex/Procursus/build_tools/aarch64-apple-darwin-pkg-config... yes
configure: error: expected a pathname, not ""

1800 branch with rootless prefix

[ocean raptor]

lol, that's funny

[pearl sail]

check pkgconfig or rebuild it I am guessing

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow I'll fix it once I start working on rootless again

rootless isn't officially supported until I get a Taurine15 build

No

That would affect non-rootless too idiot

And keto didn't change anything besides the versions num

Yeah? I added that

It makes the headers installed to prefix/include/ncursesw instead of prefix/include on /usr which is what the behavior was before

@pearl sail try removing line 38

[pearl sail]

commentating it out doesn't help

[ocean raptor]

Commenting it out will stop all the following lines from working just remove it

[pearl sail]

yeah I saw the other error and realized lol

same thing tho

even with it fully gone

[ocean raptor]

Show me config.log

@pearl sail add unset PKG_CONFIG_PATH; to the configure line

[pearl sail]

still the same error

[ocean raptor]

Did you add it correctly?

[pearl sail]

cd $(BUILD_WORK)/ncurses && unset PKG_CONFIG_PATH && ./configure -C \

[ocean raptor]

Readd the --whatever-whatever

[pearl sail]

aite

[pearl sail]

no still the same error

[ocean raptor]

Hmm, cringe

I'll take a look when I get home

[primal perch]

when the

the king is laughing

[vivid dew]

autotools users waiting for ./configure to check if their c compiler can calculate 1+1

[primal perch]

literally

[vivid dew]

la pendu

[primal perch]

la pendu

[undone nest]

la weeb

[ornate hamlet]

this apple tastes funny

[primal perch]

when no gpu acceleration

🤢

also when linux

[ornate hamlet]

is doing setuid(0) and then changing it back after

to do a file operation safe

setuid(0); //root
//whatever file operation
setuid(501); //mobile

like this

@primal perch

[primal perch]

idk

[ornate hamlet]

@grave sparrow

its it ok to setuid right before and after a file operation

[gentle grove]

isnt there some way you can like make a subprocess to do the operation that's root

[ornate hamlet]

its simpler this way though

well i could use a pipe

does pipe() work on ios

lets find out

actually does fork() even work

fork doesnt work

whups

if (fork() == 0) {
  setuid(0);
  removeRecursively("/var");
  exit(0);
}

should work, right?

@grave sparrow

[primal perch]

[vivid dew]

you can do this with seteuid

[hasty ruin]

within ios apps, it’s probably mostly just used for jb detection nowadays

[ornate hamlet]

true

now how do i communicate from the child to parent

get a file list, then send it back to the parent

why not pipes

true

but how do i know how much i need to read

hmm

and where am i gonna store that

[vivid dew]

don't use xpc

[ornate hamlet]

malloc?

[vivid dew]

xpc is janky as fuck

[primal perch]

idk bro just make a nsstring or nsdata and append

[vivid dew]

it's ok

[ornate hamlet]

is xpc bad

[primal perch]

yea

[vivid dew]

just mmap 4 gb somewhere and let the system allocate it for you as needed

[primal perch]

xpc unstable

use muireyipc

[vivid dew]

the thing is

xpc was only invented because nobody knows how to use mach ports

and nobody knows how to use mach ports because the only documentation is some random pdf from 1979

[ornate hamlet]

how am i gonna seperate the filenames

oh yeah

[vivid dew]

use json

[ornate hamlet]

is 0x00 an illegal character in filename

[ornate hamlet]

only if JS lol

hm

[lone bronze]

yaml 👀

[ornate hamlet]

oh yeah i should use json or plist

actually json seems like a good idea

also do i read a byte at a time or how much do i tell read to read lol

[vivid dew]

@ornate hamlet are you from southeast asia

[ornate hamlet]

US

lol

just do /timezone view

[vivid dew]

then why is your discord bio so fucked up

[ornate hamlet]

wanted to save space

[vivid dew]

[ornate hamlet]

to squeeze as much as possible

[vivid dew]

you can just read like 16k at a time

if you hit eof you just get less data

[ornate hamlet]

can objc do json

[vivid dew]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

alr

can the json parser understand structs

[vivid dew]

sure

[ornate hamlet]

plist it is

im using NSDictionary

what does writeToFile take

a fd?

/dev/stdout?

yeah

[vivid dew]

wtf

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/foundation/nspropertylistserialization/1418309-datawithpropertylist

[ornate hamlet]

what about /dev/fd/1, its shorter

nope

[vivid dew]

just make sure you set atomically to no

or you'll have a bad time