development

[knotty barn]

Would /Library/Caches/cy-4KDqCX.dylib be cydia substrate?

[weary heath]

Yeah

[knotty barn]

trying to patch an app to work on iOS 13 and getting KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS with substrate being the only non-internal dylib

ok thanks

[primal perch]

no i think its malware

[knotty barn]

reply

[primal perch]

the malware known as "cydia substrate"

[knotty barn]

we commit small amounts of tomfoolery

[restive ether]

truly

[vivid dew]

real

[knotty barn]

actually seems to be something different

[pearl sail]

inb4 actual malware

[knotty barn]

nah, jumping to the address in question, it's a little past a framework it loads

AppAuth

though it's calling some awfully low-level libraries that are nowhere in the SDK...

[primal perch]

std::chrono::this_dick::duration_cst

[indigo peak]

@silver rampart any ideas?

trying to run ktool 1.1.1 on windows 10 on python 3.10.1

[silver rampart]

oh god

[indigo peak]

😐

[silver rampart]

python3 -m pip install --upgrade k2l

[silver rampart]

run it again

[indigo peak]

but its gonna throw a not finding the _curses module

[silver rampart]

if windows native py10 doesn't have curses idk how it's possible to make the curses bit work

WSL version should work fine

[indigo peak]

i mean i found pip install windows-curses

which idk if its like "legit"

ok well

i installed it

and then the ui pops up

for less than a second

and then this error

[silver rampart]

weird af

cant manually repro

@indigo peak download this and run python3 -m pip install <that filename^>

then ktool --no-mmap open Discord

[indigo peak]

noice

[silver rampart]

what on earth

it looks like my gui is trying to draw a hidden window over stuff but that makes no sense

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-gif-5535732

[primal perch]

thick daddy caustic

https://tenor.com/view/caustic-apex-apex-legends-gif-21872470

[restive ether]

my favorite apex character

[primal perch]

same

they mustve fixed the game or som because its actually not bad now

[indigo peak]

@silver rampart this happens if i use my mouses scroll wheel

[silver rampart]

well dont use your mouse's scroll wheel

there's no cross platform curses impleentation that supports scroll wheel

[indigo peak]

😐

[silver rampart]

i'd have to implement it seperately for every system and there's not even a way to on my machine

[primal perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/726996379045462048/949854604106035210/SPOILER_Screenshot_2022-01-27-20-00-33-65.png

[snow python]

Oh dear

[primal perch]

trole

[silver rampart]

also i'm confused does it not render anything in that central box no matter what?

[lime pivot]

huh are you sure? that sucks

I would have thought it would just send a bunch of arrow key commands

[silver rampart]

nah it sends very specific escapes depending on terminal

and win terminal doesn't send scroll-up escapes

[primal perch]

sadge

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7FU3kzVkAEezcz.jpg

[primal perch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/808508574447829045/948767459412946994/wall.gif

[tepid olive]

nerd

[torn oriole]

even

[primal perch]

linux mfs be like

[tepid olive]

@ocean raptor

[ocean raptor]

I use BSD smh

[tepid olive]

Same thing

bsd is linux rebranded obviously

[gentle grove]

whats that

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/arch-linux-guys-i-use-arch-gif-21580729

[primal perch]

[gentle grove]

i dont know flags

[primal perch]

ww2

when the US nuked japan

(twice)

[gentle grove]

oh tahts japana?

[primal perch]

the japanese empire flag yea

[gentle grove]

oh

[primal perch]

or rather just the imperial army / navy flag

theyve had the current flag since 1870

[hardy glen]

This is me

[primal perch]

don’t worry it’s me too

except the arch part

[hardy glen]

I actually like windows except the fact it sucks

It has so much potential

Its like they are going forward and backwards at the same exact time

Whoever thought it was a great idea to add in that new right click context menu is a fucking redacted

[primal perch]

i like the ui but yea damn they removed options

so is stupid

and you gotta add a registry tweak to fix that

let alone the taskbar has been nerfed so much

basically 0 options now

[hardy glen]

Even if i use a registry tweak for a small taskbar. It fucks up my clock area which is a known bug i guess for some people for the past 4 updates

[primal perch]

[hardy glen]

But yea thats what i get for using registry tweaks

I just used thisiswin11 and i am pretty hppy with the result

[ocean raptor]

Don't you hate it when everything works perfectly fine but the tests are still failing

[hardy glen]

Just wished there wasn’t so much unnecessary shit preinstalled. And the ui was unified instead of having 3 different UI’s

And they fired mfers who gave ideas like that right click context menu or at least give us options to change it

Personally i think windows 11 looks/performs hella incomplete. It feels like a windows 11 early alpha lmao

[primal perch]

based and valid opinions pilled

[untold river]

i mean that's microsoft

release incomplete shit then fix it down the line

[primal perch]

yea

and then 7 was godly

cope

seethe

[ocean raptor]

Simple solution

[primal perch]

mald

[ocean raptor]

skill issue

[primal perch]

solution: don’t use arm64

the bottom of some dick probably

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow what was that change you did to openssh?

git diff -- makefiles/openssh.mk

[primal perch]

how do i use rust without losing half my brain cells

[ocean raptor]

whats wrong with pcre2?

actually, not a strapproject, don't care

If apt.procurs.us is slow for anyone, this is why
MEMO_TARGET=iphoneos-arm64-rootless MEMO_CFVER=1800 SSH_STRAP=1 gmake bootstrap

no

I do everything on the mac stadium

which also hosts the repo

not the best situation

my priorities right now are fixing libiosexec and then writing the worst dpkg patch ever

I don't want to make CS wait on me too long

the main hold up will most likely be me writing the dpkg patch

I have no motivation

and

spring break next week

spring break I will be on vacation

I refuse to do anything jailbreak stuff

while on vacation

I won't even bring my laptop

or my jailbroken phone

caches stuff i think

./configure --help | grep -- "-C"
  -C, --config-cache      alias for `--cache-file=config.cache'

[primal perch]

development try not to talk about compiling code for 2 messages challenge

[untold river]

development finishing compiling code challenge

[primal perch]

impossible

[gentle grove]

you first

[glacial matrix]

At least it’s consistent

[lime pivot]

would help if the cloudflare caching actually worked

[ocean raptor]

True

I think Conan wants to move it to his oracle VPs(?)

[lime pivot]

Hayden insisted he had it set up right, had cache everything enabled and all, but I'm not sure he did…

because whoever it was that ran a pro mirror had no perf issues

[ocean raptor]

Quiprr

[lime pivot]

yep that's him

and cloudflare doesn't become slower with load of course

[ocean raptor]

His mirror is super fast

[lime pivot]

if configured to cache properly

[ocean raptor]

Ask sun, he's the one that has access to cloudflare dash

[lime pivot]

it does have a size limit on what it'll edge cache, but effectively all of the packages most people will be installing will be covered just fine

think it's 10MB or something

lower for free plans than paid

I'm way off, it's 512MB

more than plenty

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow

cp: cannot stat '/Users/cameron/Documents/Procursus/build_stage/iphoneos-arm64-rootless/1800/gettext//private/preboot/jb/usr/lib/libgettextlib.a': No such file or directory
gmake: *** [makefiles/gettext.mk:41: gettext-package] Error 1

troll

[misty cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-bussin-trolling-we-do-a-little-trolling-trollface-gif-22401540

[unkempt ore]

I can block physical button presses just fine by hooking [SpringBoard _handlePhysicalButtonEvent:event], however, on Touch ID devices, if the user has the "Rest finger to open" feature enabled (Accessibility -> Home Button), it doesn't work.

I see that the event comes in and although I'm blocking it, it still goes through. Is there any other method I should know of that would handle the finger rest event so I can block it properly?

yup, indeed

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow

Took only 3 attempts

/private/preboot/jb

You want it?

Yep

[naive kraken]

try causing a crash in that method and look at the symbolicated stack trace, maybe the thing that calls it does something additional if that setting is enabled

[ocean raptor]

How?

Wdym? We will not be redirecting paths at run time

It's up to the tweak dev to update their tweaks to work on rootless

Dpkg will redirect paths when installing packages though

If it's DEB arch is iphoneos-arm

But not if it's iphoneos-arm64 or all

I agree, not that big a fan of it, but other people didn't like the idea of breaking old packages

[ocean raptor]

However, when apple prevents us from using /p/p and we have to move stuff, everything will need to be updated again

[rose wren]

I was fixing my friends code and he kept on getting seg faults 💀

It wasn’t my fault his logic was so fucking dumb

[zenith hatch]

[zenith hatch]

objective c

[glacial matrix]

Are you people modeling /private/preboot/jb to be a / parallel, so paths can be merged?
Like hooking file lookups to search files in path and if not found try /private/preboot/jb/path

[restive ether]

uicache can register apps from the preboot path

afaik

it’s in the code

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/uikittools-ng/blob/main/uicache.m

[ocean raptor]

You can modify a launchd daemon using libxpc

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/movie-gif-24573181

pc users when the fps drops from 144 to 143

[ocean raptor]

Sorry, thought it was a key in the launchd daemon

/var/mobile/Library/Preferences/com.apple.springboard.plist
Wait, what's the issue with writing to there?

/var is writable on stock smh

Ever heard of loader.app

They don't have to be in /Applications to be uicached

it just has to be registered

Cause that key is still necessary

Because uicache registers apps as system apps

SpringBoard looks at ls cache and thinks
These are all marked as system apps:
Messages.app? Ok! That's default let's show it
Sileo.app? Hmmm not default but still system, lets not show it. Wait that pref is set, let's show it anyways

My question is why is CS not using defaults to write to the prefs file, smh

[primal perch]

SpringBoard 2 is lanching tomorrow

[ocean raptor]

You can modify defaults as another user if you're root

iirc

Wait, maybe not

I never use NSUserDefaults, I just use CFPreferences directly

I'm happy just using CFPreferences*WithContainer

[primal perch]

nicely

[tepid olive]

i hope that was unintentional

[plain python]

because it's a jailbreak app that literally escapes sandbox and does privilege escalation

and also because cfprefsd will get killed during the subsequent userspace reebot

[ocean raptor]

dpkg-query

[restive ether]

springboard 2 written in pure rust

[primal perch]

20% more bugs

[restive ether]

for 20% more performance

[ocean raptor]

No afaik, Theres a flag to set a custom admin work, that may work

[gentle grove]

American please

[ocean raptor]

@lime pivot how would you like to sponsor me?

[lime pivot]

what do you need

[ocean raptor]

basically, you pay for readthemanual.info and then I host the best online manpage viewer and kill die.net

[lime pivot]

hahah

die.net will never die

[ocean raptor]

but the domain is great

sadly rtfm.com is taken

and all the other tlds are expensive

[gentle grove]

How about rt.fm

Taken isn't it

[ocean raptor]

for real?

how

[gentle grove]

I would think so

[lime pivot]

I’ll be dying in 2092 and die.net will still be hosting manpages from 2006

[gentle grove]

2 letter domain

[lime pivot]

2 letter are honestly mostly either reserved by the TLD or already sucked up by scalpers

[ocean raptor]

registered in 2003 idiot

[lime pivot]

I would try something along the lines of man.page

[gentle grove]

I knew it

[lime pivot]

I’m sure that’s taken though

[ocean raptor]

I wanted to get manpages.gay but then I learned you aren't allowed to host anti-LGBTQ stuff on it

[lime pivot]

knew it

[primal perch]

RIP

[lime pivot]

just make sure you don’t host the GCC docs written by Stallman and you’ll be fine

or was it libc

[ocean raptor]

registered in 2018, I was about to say we just missed it then realized that 2018 was 6 years ago

[lime pivot]

lolz

[ocean raptor]

man.futbol

manpages.

[restive ether]

whenever you type a website that has a basic name it’s safe to assume it’s porn

[lime pivot]

manpag.es

google domains doesn’t do .es lol

[ocean raptor]

it's taken

I already looked on namecheap for that

[lime pivot]

“cheap” is premium loool

[rose wren]

@gentle crescent go to sleep or else no jiggly skin

[lime pivot]

pretty sure buying man.forsale would get me on an FBI watchlist

[restive ether]

man.industries

LLC Incorporated

[rose wren]

Egg industries

[ocean raptor]

I search mandoc and it recommened carldoc

[gentle grove]

how is that 6 years

its not 2024

[ocean raptor]

lol

I can't do math

[gentle grove]

smh

[lime pivot]

@grave sparrow got 1.5k to spare?

[primal perch]

[gentle grove]

I already sent this one

Noob

[lime pivot]

yeah but I’m cooler

[gentle grove]

no you're not

You're literally like 200 degrees

A flame

[restive ether]

pandoc woeis me

[lime pivot]

I’m still legitimately so confused by why this scene exists in bee movie

pretty sure if you did that in an actual courtroom you’d be tackled and arrested

[restive ether]

the lack of realism is the bee movie is worrying

[gentle grove]

What is that scene about

[restive ether]

shaking my head

[primal perch]

the bee movie is just a fever dream

[gentle grove]

I don't rmeember

[restive ether]

i feels like one when you watch it

[gentle grove]

Its been so long since I've seen the bee movie

[primal perch]

i mean the 2nd main character falls in love with a bee

enough said

[restive ether]

capt doesn’t even have 5$ to spare

[primal perch]

mans been too busy fixing m1 woes

[restive ether]

i love how discord broke stickers without changing anything about them

that’s truly an impressive feat

[faint lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/690656790060204112.gif

[primal perch]

they broke my emote picker

i have to type them manually on ios rn

[untold river]

legend says capt is still compiling gettext

[pearl sail]

sad

[gentle grove]

literal emoji movie

[restive ether]

truly amazing

[primal perch]

damn

[untold river]

discord moment

[gentle grove]

IOS discord moment

[untold river]

[primal perch]

thats even more pixels than last time

theyve really improved

[restive ether]

lol yeah that’s true

[pearl sail]

who are you?

[gentle grove]

Works fine on android

[restive ether]

there’s some parts of the sticker where it’s just the wolf itself

[primal perch]

unironically going android next time

[restive ether]

none of the backgroumd

i think the appstore should make a no react apps time

[gentle grove]

What

[restive ether]

that would be awesome

[primal perch]

when my 12 mini is poop

the battery already kinda is

but the rest is good

[gentle grove]

Oh

Isn't 12 mini like really new

What year

[primal perch]

yea

2020

[gentle grove]

Wtf

[primal perch]

its good it just has a small ass 2200mah battery

[untold river]

capt go ahead

[gentle grove]

How it already breakong

O

[untold river]

refactor procursus

[primal perch]

and its at like 88% health

[restive ether]

bruh you’re putting oslog into the strap too

[gentle grove]

I have 4725 mAh

[restive ether]

might as well do locsim too

[gentle grove]

102% capacity

[primal perch]

DrawInContext

[pearl sail]

what is the error tho you loser

[lime pivot]

aw yeah baby watching bee movie in 4K HDR

[primal perch]

based

[gentle grove]

Isn't that the emoji movie anyways

If its habibi's emote

[primal perch]

anyone wanna reverse engineer the entire CALayer backend for me

thanks

[gentle grove]

I remember him saying that

[lime pivot]

lmao, I figured cause I didn’t recognise it

I put emoji movie on my plex and subsequently never watched it

which is probably for the better

[gentle grove]

I don't have a Plex or jellyfin yet

[restive ether]

the emoji movie is definitely the worst movie i have ever watched

[primal perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807823449581551637/950158028995452938/RDT_20220301_1101108029268697176373025.jpg

average linux pc

[lime pivot]

it’ll be fine, just needs new thermal paste and an SSD

[torn oriole]

pressure washer

[indigo peak]

pov last time birdpoop was updated

[gentle grove]

Whyis there dirt

That's not just dust

[torn oriole]

birdpoop development team hardware

[restive ether]

i don’t see why you’d do that instead of just using a profile

[silver rampart]

http://newosxbook.com/bonus/vol1ch16.html might be something useful in here

[restive ether]

https://github.com/paulmillr/encrypted-dns

[ocean raptor]

true

[pearl sail]

@ocean raptor have fun

He is the only one who uses vim religiously out all of us

[dawn forum]

YO WTF

how

The

Fuck

[ocean raptor]

minimal bootstrap challenge

[frigid pike]

Hi everyone, question for folks here. I don't claim to be a developer, I did major in CS several eons ago so i'm not illiterate, but it's been a while since I've actually done "real coding." - I have an app I use for work, that requires a jailbreak, because I use the "Flex" app to modify SEVERAL variables (mostly BOOLs and a couple of VARs). Every time the app is updated by the vendor, there's usually something that gets broken that requires me to go re-look at all the variables and hunt for what was changed and modify it. The crux is this, I'd really like to update my iPad Mini 5th gen to iOS 15 (it's on 13.6 jailbroken at the moment), but there's no gaurantee that by the time the 15.1 jailbreak comes out, the device will be supported..... which would mean I wouldn't be able to use Flex. I do have an Apple Developer account, but since I haven't actually done any Apple Development.... I wasn't sure if there would be a way to modify the app (without Flex or a jailbreak), and then sideload it somehow to an unjailbroken state. This way, I could give up relying on the jailbreak, and just sideload my changes in on an up to date iOS.

[faint stag]

yeah, sideloadly can do it iirc
but i guess i could make a tutorial

[ocean raptor]

fiore did that for discord iirc

used sideloadly I believe

[faint stag]

so i guess the solution is just flex to theos, building it then sideloading the app

can't forget decrypting it though

bfdecrypt

[frigid pike]

lol... 🙂 No profit! 🙂

[faint stag]

well yeah i guess

if sideloadly is still broken, then https://github.com/SignTools/SignTools

paid dev account

[frigid pike]

I have a paid apple dev account

the $100 sucks

but whatever

[faint stag]

it can inject tweaks too and that's the only alternative i know of that can lol

[frigid pike]

alright so bfdecrypt to get the decrypted ipa?

[faint stag]

only suggested bfdecrypt since launching the app is a non-issue here

[faint stag]

yeah

[frigid pike]

ok perfect. time to do some testing

thank you!!

[faint stag]

you have to enable the app in bfdecrypt prefs

then it'll decrypt on launch

[nimble parcel]

and supercharge, once that’s out in 2032

[faint stag]

oh yeah i forgot about azule too

[lime pivot]

⏱️

what's up kabir

wow

[nimble parcel]

i have 800 words to write before midnight and instead im lurking the r/jb discord

very

already drafting the papers to hand over supercharge to u

[lime pivot]

heheh, so you're pulling a me

hey because I want to make sure you're as distracted as possible (not really I just reminded myself)

[nimble parcel]

jk but contributions to orion are very welcome

[lime pivot]

there's a slight inconvenience that Theos currently deletes libswiftConcurrency.dylib from xcodeproj output

which is actually needed for it to work on pre-15.0

[nimble parcel]

i could argue that you’re pulling a me when you pull what you think is a you

[ocean raptor]

What's your timezone?

[lime pivot]

😳

[nimble parcel]

ET atm

[lime pivot]

congrats on being in a sane timezone lmao

maybe I'll be in one one day

[ocean raptor]

same!

you should probably get to work on that writing

[nimble parcel]

yeah i expected that would happen, kinda structured the libswift package to support that use case but i simply haven’t got to updating it yet

[nimble parcel]

good point maybe i should

[ocean raptor]

smh waiting for it so I can add some stuff to proc

Tempted to add libswift to Procursus

I don't like it being provided by the jb

[nimble parcel]

im still trying to figure out how to handle pre-ios 13 concurrency though

like, it simply doesn’t work but it’s a bit of a pain to express that in terms of APT requirements

[lime pivot]

I was thinking it'd be fine to just redistribute whatever libswift dylibs are required per-app

[tepid olive]

active chat do any of you have any clue if swift concurrency backporting can be disabled

[nimble parcel]

probably gonna make libswift a parent package with
Depends: firmware (>= 12.2) | org.swift.libswift.base, firmware (>= 15.0) | org.swift.libswift.concurrency
And concurrency can have
Depends: firmware (>= 13.0)

[lime pivot]

just need to make sure the stdlib isn't bundled

[nimble parcel]

yeah it’s one dylib tbf

how large is it?

[lime pivot]

yep exactly

[nimble parcel]

there’s a flag iirc

[lime pivot]

14MB oh god

[nimble parcel]

okay maybe we do need that package then

[lime pivot]

this might be a debug build, though

[frigid pike]

Oh shit, this is way easier than I thought it was going to be. Thanks @grave sparrow and @faint stag

[nimble parcel]

of concurrency? Not sure why they’d ship one

[ocean raptor]

Do you build the libswift yourself, or rip them from xcode?

[nimble parcel]

The latter

[restive ether]

libswift 5.5 🤌🏻🤌🏻

or are we on 5.6 these days

[lime pivot]

I've been really watching Zebra 2's package size because libapt-pkg being bundled adds quite some heft, sadly

[ocean raptor]

5.6 is in dev

[restive ether]

ah

[ocean raptor]

just beg sbingner to update his apt

[lime pivot]

trying to shave down other parts of Zebra as much as possible so the size difference from 1 to 2 isn't as bad

[nimble parcel]

@lime pivot the dylib in Xcode appears to be 6.8 MB but it’s only arm64

[restive ether]

i don’t think it’s that big of a deal, i’m sure the reduction from amy’s changes offsets it

[lime pivot]

the dylib I have actually is fat arm64/arm64e for some reason

[nimble parcel]

so 14 MB is reasonable for arm64e + arm64

[ocean raptor]

@nimble parcel how's the licensing of it? Are we allowed to redistribute it?

[nimble parcel]

man i miss jb dev

[nimble parcel]

i believe so

[lime pivot]

Zebra is of course only arm64 because shipping arm64e is just adding pointless amounts of pain

[ocean raptor]

you shouldn't I hate it here

[nimble parcel]

it’s Apache licensed

[ocean raptor]

good point

[restive ether]

muh pointers!

[nimble parcel]

i work around that by doing my own thing and dropping a big release every so often

[lime pivot]

pointless was an accidental pun

[ocean raptor]

I get sucked in with the Procursus push access then get 100+ PRs forced on me to review

[restive ether]

it’s ok nick closed like 30

[nimble parcel]

just reject them without saying why, embrace the chaotic energy

[ocean raptor]

I can't do that

most of them are needed changes

[nimble parcel]

you haven’t seen how i review Theos PRs

[restive ether]

people review those?

[nimble parcel]

painful but valid burn

[lime pivot]

lmao ouch

[restive ether]

i’m sure most of them are irrelevant now anyways

[lime pivot]

I do review them, like, every few months when I feel like I can brave it

[restive ether]

cam just wants his fBSD support

[lime pivot]

I did triage almost all of the open stuff about a month ago

[restive ether]

i saw that plist wrapper script PR, that was nice

[lime pivot]

so everything open is either still relevant, or I didn't feel like fixing it

[restive ether]

didn’t realize ply was a thing until then

[lime pivot]

at that very moment

[restive ether]

https://github.com/theos/theos/pull/592 @grave sparrow nice PR big man

[ocean raptor]

% sudo dpkg --remove-architecture iphoneos-arm
dpkg: warning: cannot remove non-foreign architecture 'iphoneos-arm

NO!

https://github.com/theos/theos/pull/635

[restive ether]

make all the scripts posix compliant, go ahead

be a mad man

get those 3s theos performance improvements

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/theos/theos/pull/636#issuecomment-1038601310

dhowett still monitors theos stuff???

[restive ether]

yeah that’s how i found ply

[ocean raptor]

I had heard about ply a while ago while I was reading howett's blog

Which I started reading because he wrote some stuff about the framework laptop

which I want to get

but have no way to justify

[restive ether]

are those things any good

[ocean raptor]

since I already have 2 laptops

[ocean raptor]

It looks AWESOME

[silver rampart]

https://gist.github.com/cxnder/9622415233caaae185b485166e32ca9e very satisfied with this code

as compared to my old very naive approach to virtual memory mapping for macho parsing which is like 200 lines long and 2x slower and horrible to try and read https://github.com/cxnder/ktool/blob/ad101250ad1927730732aac9fd5920562d4a8af5/src/ktool/macho.py#L176

[lime pivot]

I love knowing he's getting emails and can occasionally chime in with a solution, heheh

[ocean raptor]

.man is a TLD

but it's owned by a german company 😭

How much does it cost to buy a TLD

mandoc.us or mandoc.co?

or mdoc.us

mdoc.fans

@restive ether I am definitely a fan of mdoc

[untold river]

man.doc

is .doc a TLD

[ocean raptor]

no

.docs is

but it's not supported by google domains

It's limited to doctors I think

[weary heath]

im not going to a doctor who uses .docs

[glacial matrix]

It’s good 👍🏻
I have some feedback if I may

[ember reef]

No. You are not going to a doctor. You are going to a Psychiatrist.

[ocean raptor]

A psychiatrist is a doctor...

[weary heath]

[ember reef]

Yes. It is.

[silver rampart]

hit me

[glacial matrix]

L17-19: could be placed in the else clause of the try so it’s clear the exception can happen on L16 only
L24: raise an instance of the error, not the error class
L27: what happens if size < self.page_size?
L28: you could use a variable for (i * (self.page_size + 1)) in the for loop but it looks like (self.page_size + 1) is constant across loop so that could be one outside

Also types

Logic+readability looks 👌🏻👌🏻

[silver rampart]

L24 was a standin till i actually implemented it (throws a valueerror with a custom msg)

L27: what happens if size < self.page_size?
then the mach-o you're trying to reverse is fucked

[ocean raptor]

That's why you reverse it...

just cause it's totally broken doesn't mean that it won't run

I read a whole article recently about creating ELFs that run on Linux but that ghidra, ida, and objdump all don't recognize

[silver rampart]

if the size of a segment is smaller than the page size of the system there is no way (NONE) that dyld will load the binary

[ocean raptor]

Good point

[silver rampart]

although in fairness dyldextractor does create pretty much that issue https://github.com/arandomdev/DyldExtractor/issues/31 😛

but i use a separate (awful) workaround for that bc it's not standard

[glacial matrix]

I mean, don’t do

raise AssertionError
do
raise AssertionError()

As a general tip

[glacial matrix]

Should you warn about it?

[silver rampart]

I do, it yells very loudly when you try to map a misaligned segment

then manually maps the entire thing into the cache :p

[glacial matrix]

Noice

[silver rampart]

https://github.com/cxnder/ktool/blob/master/src/ktool/macho.py#L173

here's the actual implemented version

[primal perch]

nooo you should’ve written it in C to save 0.03seconds!!!

and then it only would’ve taken 12 months longer to make

hopefully obvious /s

[silver rampart]

currently writing basically a copied macho parser implementation in C++ and can confirm it takes much longer

[primal perch]

string parsing in python is unmatched by anything

[zenith hatch]

swift

[silver rampart]

if someone on macos could possibly drop /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/iPhoneOS.platform/Library/Developer/CoreSimulator/Profiles/Runtimes/iOS.simruntime/Contents/Resources/RuntimeRoot/System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/Coherence.framework/Coherence they would be a v cool person

[primal perch]

Coherence

[silver rampart]

thank you very much

[high citrus]

np

[misty cradle]

hoi peepers

how do u check again which process you're currently in

need to check something in ctor

ok found

[silver rampart]

#define kProcessName (*(char ***)_NSGetArgv())[0]

[misty cradle]

[silver rampart]

then in your code:
char *argv = kProcessName;

[misty cradle]

or just

[[NSBundle mainBundle] bundleIdentifier]

[glacial matrix]

NSProcessInfo?

[silver rampart]

this wont work in processes without bundle identifiers 😛

[misty cradle]

well i only need it to work in that process with a bundle id

[glacial matrix]

Like apps and frameworks?

[misty cradle]

yup

[glacial matrix]

Then yeah, that would be enough

[misty cradle]

i got this weird request from someone who wants an app to crash

he's offering 750$

[silver rampart]

wtf lol

[glacial matrix]

Usually it’s the other way around

[misty cradle]

[silver rampart]

why do you need to check the process id

[misty cradle]

i also gotta do something else in springboard

[glacial matrix]

Just do two dylibs with diff filters

[misty cradle]

that works too

[glacial matrix]

Tweak.xm:
%ctor { abort(); }

[grim sparrow]

ong

[glacial matrix]

Thanks

It could’ve been a typo on “omg”

[misty cradle]

i know what it means 😛

i just react to everything

cuz why not

[primal perch]

true

[misty cradle]

@grim sparrow

[grim sparrow]

hello tr1

[torn scroll]

Hey everyone, noob question.. I am a full stack dev and graphic designer getting into iOS dev and wondering where I might find info on how to use XCode to upload my icon set and make available to purchase in Cydia?

[misty cradle]

hoi

question lady

[grim sparrow]

hello

yes

[misty cradle]

how does one get an app's path

by bundle id

is there some magic method

[ocean raptor]

Ooh I know this!

[misty cradle]

wtf cameron being useful for tweak dev

[ocean raptor]

Cause uicache

[misty cradle]

cameron tweak dev redemption story

true

ok how do i do dis mister

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/uikittools-ng/blob/main/uicache.m#L250

[misty cradle]

i have done this once before but idk which project

true ty

[ocean raptor]

    LSApplicationProxy *app =
        [LSApplicationProxy applicationProxyForIdentifier:@"balls"];
    return [app bundleURL].fileSystemRespresentation;

Sorry for the trash formatting, I'm on mobile

[misty cradle]

it ok

got it

[ocean raptor]

That should work all the way back to iOS 7

[ocean raptor]

3 hour movie that is an hdcam because rips haven't come out yet

Can't wait to watch 480p, shaky Batman

[misty cradle]

bro

just

wait or watch in cinema

[ocean raptor]

I will wait

[misty cradle]

im gonna watch in cinema prolly

[ocean raptor]

I don't want to get Covid right before my vacation

[misty cradle]

true understandable

[ocean raptor]

Still waiting for rips of no way home

It comes out in digital on march 22nd

[misty cradle]

should be coming soon

yeah

that

[ocean raptor]

I thought it was coming out on the 2nd not the 22nd then got SUPER disappointed

[primal perch]

piracy

ban

[glacial matrix]

3h hdcam of a video essay

[ocean raptor]

I feel called out

Yes, but that's not way he had asked me 🙃

[primal perch]

hey i pay for my taco bell

[grim sparrow]

did you have this on hand

[misty cradle]

i try to pay for as less things as possible

real tweak dev

[ocean raptor]

Because you make no money from selling tweaks

[grim sparrow]

Aemulo made 4x what Akara made

[primal perch]

[silver rampart]

i do now

[grim sparrow]

lovely

[misty cradle]

thank you for sharing that

[grim sparrow]

you've said it here before

and also

neither numbers are acutally known

[misty cradle]

i haven't, it was you actually

[grim sparrow]

[grim sparrow]

what repos are you looking on

yeah thats probably why

Chariz has up to date stuff

Dynastic is relatively update but dead

yes

they have nothing for ios 13

and while ur at it

install zebra or sileo

[restive ether]

self plug

[grim sparrow]

lmao true

a better version of cydia

[faint lion]

Zebra

A Useful Package Manager

Author

Wilson Styres

Version

1.1.21

Price

Free

Repo

Procursus

Bundle ID

xyz.willy.zebra

Powered by Canister · Mar 7, 2022, 6:01 PM

[true stratus]

it seems that a lot of tweaks wants you to use it

[faint lion]

Sileo

A modern APT package manager frontend

Author

Sileo Team

Version

2.2.6

Price

Free

Repo

Procursus

Bundle ID

org.coolstar.sileo

Powered by Canister · Mar 7, 2022, 6:01 PM

[grim sparrow]

thats because some repos don't support cydia anymore

because its old and bad

[true stratus]

thanks i’ll install zebra

[grim sparrow]

why does it still say 2.2.6

[faint lion]

Sileo

A modern APT package manager frontend

Author

Sileo Team

Version

2.2.6

Price

Free

Repo

Procursus

Bundle ID

org.coolstar.sileo

Powered by Canister · Mar 7, 2022, 6:02 PM

[grim sparrow]

add https://getzbra.com/repo/

[restive ether]

also, please direct further questions to #jailbreak or #genius-bar rather than #development

[grim sparrow]

also, please direct further questions to jailbreak or genius-bar rather than development

[raven flint]

did a guy ask a question in development

lol

[golden horizon]

hi guys, i want to attach frida to com.apple.iapauthd (daemon) but he is not launched yet, idk how to do to attach frida to it when it launch, someone have an idea please ?

[grim sparrow]

if you add -f you can set it to launch the daemon for you

[golden horizon]

mhh let me check

[grim sparrow]

https://awakened1712.github.io/hacking/hacking-frida/

[ocean raptor]

Yes, then we helped him

[golden horizon]

Failed to spawn: unable to launch iOS app: The operation couldn’t be completed. Application info provider (FBSApplicationLibrary) returned nil for "com.apple.iapauthd"

[raven flint]

wholesome

[golden horizon]

@grim sparrow thats seems to work for application but for daemon no, or maybe i'm doing something wrong

[high citrus]

So is this why it doesn't work on macOS?

[raven flint]

wtf

[gentle grove]

I showed this to my friend irl

He said "he he he ha"

[ocean raptor]

Literally just leaked your name

[primal perch]

exposed

[ocean raptor]

🤷‍♂️

# Sample makefile for bash loadable builtin development

it's lib/bash/Makefile.inc

FreeBSD installs it too

Don't care

we didn't debianize bash

@surreal mountain what crypto wallet do you recommend?

[ocean raptor]

No

There's no other way to receive money online as a minor

Nah, I never had you blocked

Yes

They are asking for DoB and SSN

[native dune]

i have a paypal and it didn’t ask

well it asked for a DoB

just get “parental supervision”

[untold river]

paypal asked me for a DoB so I just faked my age by a few years

they literally asked me for my national ID number but didnt ask for an image of it

so

[peak quartz]

yo guys, does someone have some information how does FLEX works behind the scenes? how can he touch the heap objects and stuff, im really interested in that..

i figured, but not just that, how does it knows how to create the app hierarchy, how can he dynamically hook any property to be changed during runtime, etc

i know, i am familiar with flex up and down features i use that over a year, but i really want to understand how this tool works behind the scenes

wish i had some informative page about that

other than go over all its classes and figure this out

[primal perch]

nuts

[high citrus]

https://github.com/FLEXTool/FLEX/blob/master/Classes/Utility/FLEXHeapEnumerator.m
Do you mean this class?

[peak quartz]

Some of it, yeah. I want to understand how the tool does all he does, and I didn’t see any hooking anywhere

[high citrus]

Hmm can’t help you with that, I wanted the same, but ended up ignoring it because it looked too complex for me at the time (and just went with hooking initializers, as that would have been way too overkill and slow probably for the tweak that I was gonna use it for).

[royal sun]

I had a question, to my understanding the primary reason why Altstore needs either a computer or a jailbreak to refresh apps is the hook to get anisette data, correct? Besides this, it looks like altdaemon is used to install/uninstall signed apps/provisioning profiles but I think these things should be possible from a jailed app?

Would it be possible then to set up a VM as a server for anisette data… make it internet accessible… and then have Altstore just use this endpoint to fetch the anisette data and do everything else within the jailed Altstore app? Then you could install/renew sideloaded apps even when away from a computer and without a jailbreak.

The VM would just be a windows VM with iCloud client, a small web server that just returns the anisette data, and set up with cloudflare tunnel to make the web server port internet accessible. Could be hosted at home for only the cost of a domain that cloudflare requires

[ocean raptor]

Wow, what an original idea, too bad it's already been implemented in AltStoreLinux and sideloadly

[royal sun]

Isn’t sideloadly a computer app?

[ocean raptor]

Yes

But that's exactly what it does

[royal sun]

So where can I get a copy of altstore that will let me use a remote anisette server

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/NyaMisty/AltServer-Linux

https://armconverter.com/anisette/irGb3Quww8zrhgqnzmrx

[royal sun]

Okay this project looks like it builds to a binary to run on Linux. But doesn’t seem to have an ipa?

[ocean raptor]

Well duh

It's the server

[royal sun]

So you’d still need a modified AltStore app on the phone. I wanted to be able to refresh apps from a jailed device without a computer

[primal perch]

there is one option

buy dev account

[ocean raptor]

True

[ocean raptor]

Umm

[faint lion]

AltDaemon

AltDaemon allows AltStore to install and refresh apps without a computer. — AltDaemon allows AltStore to install, refresh, and update apps completely on-device — without requiring a Mac or PC running AltServer on the same WiFi network. No l

Author

Riley Testut

Version

1.0

Price

Free

Repo

Dynastic Repo

Bundle ID

com.rileytestut.altdaemon

Powered by Canister · Mar 8, 2022, 12:34 AM

[ocean raptor]

Do you live under a rock...

@royal sun

[restive ether]

dingus

[royal sun]

This requires a jailbreak

[tepid olive]

[ocean raptor]

I misread jailed as jailbroken

[royal sun]

I mean, it is possible to do on device, it just requires a jailbreak tweak

But my question is: it seems like the only reason the jailbreak is needed is to fetch anisette data, everything else is doable from a jailed app. So if that one step of anisette data were done remotely, why couldn’t we do the rest of it from a jailed device?

[primal perch]

me when i browse 4chan

[ocean raptor]

Because testut likes his patreon money

[restive ether]

very true

[royal sun]

I’m not sure how he would make less money this way

He could even make it a patreon only feature

[restive ether]

you mean like half his app is already

for no good reason

[royal sun]

Or I’d just try to edit it myself, in which case I just want to ask if there’s any reason why this won’t work before I waste time on it

[untold river]

bro he only backported the altstore crash fix today

after like a whole month of it in beta

paywalling critical fixes

[restive ether]

gotta love it

was like a 10 line fix too

[royal sun]

I guess this idea is still original? Lol

[misty cradle]

yes

make it

and share it with us

so we can sideload while being jailed

@nimble parcel sleepin on supersign...

[primal perch]

mans getting 14k a month

id suck dick for that money

[ocean raptor]

Go ahead

Start an OF

@restive ether would buy it

[restive ether]

i’ll be happy the day altstore becomes irrelevant

yeah i would

[primal perch]

[misty cradle]

?

[primal perch]

bro 14k / mo

set for life

i can buy therapy for 500$ of it

problem solved

[restive ether]

i heard you like one less app slot

i too like an app that waste space on my phone and provides nothing of value to me

[misty cradle]

@nimble parcel we neeeeed supersign

[primal perch]

true

[restive ether]

as proven by programs like altstore patcher

[misty cradle]

We coulda had heaven if kabir continued super sign

[primal perch]

mfw doesn’t even work

[restive ether]

it exists for the sole purpose of selling you his other apps

[misty cradle]

But he is lazy just like me

Tro

[primal perch]

meanwhile side load my has never not worked

sideloadly*

[restive ether]

too bad it’s made by some sussy bois

[primal perch]

yea that’s why you use burner apple id

not giving riley mine either

[misty cradle]

[ocean raptor]

Imagine having a burner paid dev acct

[primal perch]

who said it was paid

[misty cradle]

Fr

[nimble parcel]

serving anisette data via a windows vm is a lot harder than it seems due to rate limiting + privacy and security reasons

and arguably even more difficult than that is the installation aspect, which can’t trivially be done on-device

I’ve solved both of these issues with supercharge but I haven’t had enough time to make it work at a production scale yet

[primal perch]

anyone wanna write a vulkan backend for cross platform uikit

pay is 0$/hr + clout

[glacial matrix]

For real? I did enterprise distribution on my previous job and the implementation for it could have been done on a device I think

Also, did you hand in the 800 word essay?

[lethal kayak]

C is the world’s most based language

[primal perch]

true

[nimble parcel]

yeah unfortunately traditional enterprise deployment requires a paid dev account

[nimble parcel]

thankfully yes

[glacial matrix]

Oh right

Now I’m wondering if an app that hosted itself via enterprise distribution could install itself

[primal perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/763244980495450142/950575925769146378/troll.gif

[restive ether]

linux users when i don’t remember the 500 keybindings for 30 different programs

[primal perch]

[gentle grove]

Won't load

[tepid olive]

sideloadly is cool

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow I was able to build two bootstraps first try

➜ git status
On branch main
Your branch is up to date with 'origin/main'.

Changes not staged for commit:
  (use "git add/rm <file>..." to update what will be committed)
  (use "git restore <file>..." to discard changes in working directory)
        modified:   Makefile
        deleted:    build_info/base.conffiles.rootless
        deleted:    build_info/nginx-common.conffiles
        deleted:    build_info/profile
        deleted:    build_info/terminal.sh
        deleted:    build_info/zprofile
        modified:   build_misc/libiosexec/libiosexec.1.tbd
        modified:   build_misc/libiosexec/libiosexec.h
        modified:   build_misc/prep_bootstrap.sh
        modified:   makefiles/coreutils.mk
        modified:   makefiles/libiosexec.mk
        modified:   makefiles/openssh.mk
        modified:   makefiles/profile.d.mk

Untracked files:
  (use "git add <file>..." to include in what will be committed)
        build_misc/profile.d/

no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")

troll

why?

so true

although

I have to fix perl build sometime before electra 5 release

and literally every other package

cause I have to build the entire repo

back in the day we'd just use the old cfver

and replace with new debs as stuff was updated

but that won't work anymore 😭

[primal perch]

he

[untold river]

add perl 6

[primal perch]

he

[primal perch]

he

ha

[silver rampart]

https://www.reddit.com/r/TweakBounty/comments/t3scj5/501441_50_for_the_hero_that_reverses_nordea_id/

digging through this and

1. godlike string obfuscation

https://www.funkyspacemonkey.com/exciting-times-cydia-acquires-rockapp

September 2010

ios 3.1 jailbreak

yeah their detection check is copy pasted from this https://medium.com/developerinsider/best-way-to-check-if-your-ios-app-is-running-on-a-jailbroken-phone-fb283d1aafc9

[untold river]

"added jailbreak detection boss"

[untold river]

that is libiosexec stuff

[ocean raptor]

Add CFLAGS="$(CFLAGS) $(LDFLAGS)" to the make call to getent

[restive ether]

that means their jailbreak detection can be triggered by installing an app off the appstore

[high citrus]

uhh so if you spoof it to look like the ios simulator it thinks it isn't jailbroken

oh nvm isSimulator isn't default stuff and probably resolved at compile time

[ocean raptor]

you could still hook it, although the compile most likely just optimizes that out

[silver rampart]

apple event more like crapple event gottem

[primal perch]

you have created a funny

[vivid dew]

hello @everyone

i am opening up donations for a mac studio

[tepid olive]

Hi everyone

[vivid dew]

donate now at https://paypal.me/triangularservices

[tepid olive]

I am opening up donations for a 14" Macbook Pro

(I am female)

[pearl sail]

start an OnlyFans /s

[pearl sail]

I'm owed $8k keep that in mind

[vivid dew]

i'm normal

[tepid olive]

i love both cis people and normal people

[pearl sail]

I don't even love myself

[vivid dew]

[pearl sail]

[primal perch]

i am also opening up donations for a mac studio (10C + 24C + 32G + 1TB) model

please donate at https://paypal.me/DGhost

[pearl sail]

[tepid olive]

accidentally donated to shallow patel

[pearl sail]

so funny you should do stand up, but you seem a lot better when sitting

[tepid olive]

i will not get off my toilet

[pearl sail]

fair

[zenith hatch]

thats bad for your ass

[primal perch]

yea so is getting railed by your bf but we dont mind

[clear current]

can anyone help with a flex or permaflex patch?

[torn oriole]

Get off the toilet

[tepid olive]

hi

[lime pivot]

love the fundamental misunderstanding of how jb check bypasses work

[silver rampart]

it does at least do this

F- to an F+

then they embed it in the http headers

from what the person's rebbit post said, their server might blacklist your device entirely if you try to connect after it sees that

they for some reason have a built in MachO parser

[lime pivot]

re🅱️🅱️it 🐸

[primal perch]

f

[indigo peak]

This is certified Java classic

[primal perch]

wtf they removed hotboi

[zenith hatch]

@terse grotto

[stuck wyvern]

https://github.com/EnterpriseQualityCoding/FizzBuzzEnterpriseEdition

[gusty pelican]

oh god it’s so real

[primal perch]

[vapid badger]

Sums it up

[pearl sail]

sudo apt install man-db

not sure myself

man apt

what are you setting for root?

oh

gl

[ocean raptor]

I recommend not using man-db cause then it won't use Xcode manpages, I'll fix that eventually, but I recommend just adding .zst /opt/procursus/bin/zstd -dc to the bottom of /etc/man.conf

yes

[pearl sail]

nice

why wouldn't you be able to run that on macOS?

yeah I got that

[primal perch]

name leak

[pearl sail]

[primal perch]

[pearl sail]

[vivid dew]

IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR DEVELOPERS

[pearl sail]

[tepid olive]

@vivid dew can you buy me a 14" macbook pro

[pearl sail]

@ocean raptor knows better than I would

[ocean raptor]

Yes

firmware-sbin shouldn't exists on rootless 👀

I may be wrong though

Oh...

Then it should be an empty package

Crap, I'll fix soon

Not sure how I didn't notice that on my rootless strap

[vivid dew]

yes queen

[tepid olive]

thanks bestie

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow make sure to use the rootless-bugfixes branch

[tepid olive]

need to play monster hunter

[ocean raptor]

Also, login, getent passwd, and password based ssh won't work

[ocean raptor]

Yet

No

I'm focused on fixing getpwent

Well not at this exact moment, but that's what I'm working on

How much stuff did you change?

[ocean raptor]

Copy system-cmds.control to system-cmds.control.rootless and remove the firmware-sbin dep

Yeah

It won't exist unless MEMO_PREFIX is empty

[restive ether]

libarchive users in shambles stuck using xz

[ocean raptor]

just use swiftZSTD

like Odyssey/Taurine

is there a good name to refer to both taurine and odyssey?

[restive ether]

doesn’t that make the app like 30% larger lol

[ocean raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-tobeymaguire-imissedthepartwherethatsmyproblem-gif-9838697

[restive ether]

good point

[ocean raptor]

storage is dime a dozen nowadays

perl 😭

https://tenor.com/view/lonely-island-mother-fucker-mother-lover-gif-9325911

[restive ether]

perl6

just use a different multiplexer bozo!

[ocean raptor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUXyCXUko9g

[ocean raptor]

true, use tmux

it's not GNU trashware

it's OpenBSD god-tier-ware

[restive ether]

hey guys enjoy my bootstrap it has 3 multiplexers 4 text editors and 6 compression algos

???

where are YOUR bitches

[vivid dew]

minimal bootstrap with vim, emacs, and xorg

and qemu + docker linux image just in case you wanted to run containers

[restive ether]

some might even call that the minimalist dream

shame capt you could’ve had emacs too but nathan and keto destroyed that makefile and it stopped working lol

add the poly package to llvm, go ahead

i didn’t either till i saw it in the binary releases for llvm

[ocean raptor]

who made this gif

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-emoji-nerd-emoji-avalon-play-avalon-gif-24241051

It makes me unreasonably angry

[tepid olive]

thats just a video of you

[ocean raptor]

why do you know that

[tepid olive]

just tried it is true

[restive ether]

that must be new you could do it before

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-23421483

[tepid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-shooting-gif-14903031

[lime pivot]

whoever made this is very pro aliasing

[untold river]

what in the cinnamon toast fuck is this

[torn oriole]

Bad file descriptor

[untold river]

no shit

[pearl sail]

Perl is the devil

Also fuck me

So many packages to touch

[ocean raptor]

How come iphonedev.wiki's icon in the top right is different on some pages

Main page it's a black iPhone 5(?), but on the updating extensions for 15 page it's a red ipod touch

[untold river]

The iPod touch Wiki

[ocean raptor]

@restive ether when are you gonna write https://iphonedev.wiki/index.php/Sharing.framework ?

We've all been waiting

[restive ether]

i’m illiterate

[pearl sail]

[lime pivot]

@ocean raptor please write Sharing.framework and Updating extensions for iOS 15

[untold river]

just mark it as a stub

[untold river]

same

it trips when i do subprojects?

at least from my limited experience with theos

[lime pivot]

it's some weird bug with modern versions of make and bash

can be reproduced even with a pretty basic makefile

seems like GNU don't care because most makefiles use sh not bash

[ocean raptor]

[lime pivot]

gm

[ocean raptor]

gm

I've got two off blocks in a row. After I I finish some physics work I'll start work on either libiosexec to fix rootless stuff or write a page for sharing.framework

[ocean raptor]

I decided to do neither of these and just watch tiktok for like an hour