development

[primal perch]

for 60% commission

[harsh needle]

it will give u a warning!!

[misty cradle]

40 tro

[harsh needle]

_number is used sir

no _

[primal perch]

didnt warn for me

[harsh needle]

false

[misty cradle]

wym not bad

just 200

no return nothing

[primal perch]

https://play.rust-lang.org/?version=stable&mode=debug&edition=2021&gist=4968614aecb8ccbb3161e256f61fee1f

[primal perch]

last expression is returned by default

it kinda slaps once you get used to it

[harsh needle]

does playground actually output warnings?

[primal perch]

yea

notice the lack of semicolon @misty cradle

[harsh needle]

that is very autistic then

their compiler is broken then i guess

_number is used so it should not have a _ pref ix

[primal perch]

when i comment it

[harsh needle]

_ prefix

[primal perch]

but yeah their warnings are stupid

[hardy glen]

why would you use snprintf vs printf.

[primal perch]

it writes to a buffer

[harsh needle]

it seems like it does not even work

[primal perch]

format strings without being printed

[primal perch]

literal nazi language too

they get mad when you use camelcase

[harsh needle]

_number should be number if their variable actually works

[primal perch]

based C and C++ dont care what you use

[harsh needle]

you have to use shit case like

[hardy glen]

i have always used cout <<

lmao

[harsh needle]

#[derive(Serialize, Deserialize, Clone, Debug)]
pub struct Packet {
    pub content: String,
    pub token: String,
    pub status: String,
}

[primal perch]

pub

[harsh needle]

because it cannot be packet!!!

[primal perch]

more like get some bitches

[harsh needle]

yeah u gotta make every member public for some reason

its so fucking stupid

[primal perch]

public:
...

based c++

one time and move on

[harsh needle]

and why do i need to derive debug when i wanna print a struct

WHY

[hardy glen]

wait so snprintf does not print anything it just formats stings and throws them in a buffer

[primal perch]

yea

[harsh needle]

imagine you base your compiler off LLVM and youre still 2000x slower than clang

[primal perch]

ture lmao

[hardy glen]

okay that's probably a life saver in C

[harsh needle]

i change one println! and it takes over 5 seconds to recompile

[harsh needle]

new thing learned

which i will never use

[hardy glen]

fax, i don't really know C like that

[primal perch]

char shit[64];
snprintf(shit, sizeof(shit), "mov %s, %s", "eax", "ebx");```

one usage

for like disassemblers

[harsh needle]

i only know rust and i guess i could say i know c++

[primal perch]

theres sprintf but dont use that garbage

no size constraint

easy way to crash

[hardy glen]

this probably saves headache dealing with C strings in C

[harsh needle]

time to learn objc to get dev role!!

[hardy glen]

its easy asf

[harsh needle]

fuck that shit

it looks like java and rust had a baby or something

[primal perch]

objc slaps

[hardy glen]

would probably take you a week

[harsh needle]

and the mother drank alcohol trough the 8 months

[hardy glen]

then you got UIKit

[primal perch]

its C ( the best language ) with some OOP paradigms

baller language

[hardy glen]

fax

i like objc

[harsh needle]

fuck that shit i already wanted to off myself when i had to use objc++

[hardy glen]

i don't mind the syntax of objc honestly

[harsh needle]

and had to link appkit bullshit trough cmake

[harsh needle]

all i see is [[[]]]]

and hundred segfaults

[primal perch]

skill issue

[harsh needle]

probaly, but i can do anything with c++ anyways that objc can do

so i dont mind it

[hardy glen]

[[Object alloc]init]; allocate and call init

easy

[harsh needle]

disgusting

[primal perch]

🤢

[harsh needle]

object::new();
``` ![trol](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/831188670848565289.webp?size=128 "trol")

[hardy glen]

[[[Object alloc]init] aMethod];

[harsh needle]

holy fuck

[hardy glen]

lmao

[harsh needle]

im going to have an internship for 4 weeks and have to learn c#

i already want to off myself

let me write that fucking web server in rust not c# bullshit

[primal perch]

View *v = new View(RectMake(20, 20, 20, 20));
v->SetBackgroundColor(ColorMake(255, 0, 0, 255));
this->GetView()->AddSubview(v);
v->Release();

[hardy glen]

i love reversing c# programs since dotpeek litterally gives the whole source and you can export to visual studio

[primal perch]

real code from [redacted]

[harsh needle]

we do a little il2cpp dumper and dlspy

already wrote an automatic program giving me the changes on every version change in c++

[hardy glen]

i used dnspy

dnspy is clutch

[harsh needle]

same but some shit was compiled with il2cpp so i had to convert it from c++ to c#

whats it about

i havent learned th at yet

last thing i learned is quadratics

[primal perch]

thats the shit i didnt do at all in AP calc

[harsh needle]

and parabolas

lol

[primal perch]

still passed the test tho

[harsh needle]

not sure how i passed anything, got a C in everything

even tho i didnt learn for anything

[hardy glen]

my calc 2 prof posts lessons that are 20 minutes long barely explaining shit

[harsh needle]

our teacher didnt even explain shit for the past 2 years

because of covid we just got the assignments

my dad pretty much teached me everything but he works all day so uhh

i kinda just learned 12 hours a day for 3 days to get that shit done

[primal perch]

maybe you should retake english

[harsh needle]

im drunk

dont fuck me smh

[harsh needle]

i never really had any contact with my dad for my whole life ever so uhh

thats probaly why

hes not really a dad for me, just a person that lives in the same house

i dont talk to him at all but i guess he cares that i do good in school

but i dont really give a shit about any classes im not interested in because i dont have any motivation to do so

if i had IT in school i would go wild but that will take a bit but i did apply to vocational college but that will take 6 months

meh its alright, im very close to my mom and he told me he gave up being happy in life and does not even have any social life so i dont really think i will get anything out of it hanging out with him anyway s

[ocean raptor]

Can I write tweaks in Fortran?

[primal perch]

yea

[restive ether]

saurik probably thought about this

[ocean raptor]

🙏

[restive ether]

writing tweaks in BASIC

[grim sparrow]

stop

sto

sto

sgfkfdgj

I had to write code in a translator that converts some random assembler language to basic

[restive ether]

oh, you wanna do it?

[harsh needle]

lmfao, story of 80% of students

[hardy glen]

fuck college bruh

my mom wants me to do it

like ik i would get a job in CS without a degree if i work hard enough

there's people with CS degrees with no job. because CS, you have to constantly keep learning and making effort

[harsh needle]

thats kinda what im doing

learned coding by doing and trying out a lot of different languages all together and just doing what i find fun to do and not really giving a shit about school because secondary school is ez anyway s (grade 5-10) so now im working a year for 1,20$/h and then do my HS degree

[restive ether]

banging

[hardy glen]

i am doing that same shit. waking up and spending at least 4 hours on algorithms and data structures

[primal perch]

std::vectorstd::string

my FBI agent when i accidentally name my C++ file with .cp

[vivid dew]

real [redacted]s use .cc

[hardy glen]

unrelatable

[ocean raptor]

The correct one is

.C

[harsh needle]

correct one is .mm

[indigo peak]

nah .S

[hardy glen]

With atnt

[primal perch]

😷

intel syntax only

[lethal kayak]

.cc cringe

[hardy glen]

https://tenor.com/view/6ix9ine-69-han-hang-shoot-gif-22530028

Whenever @grave sparrow sees someone using atnt syntax.

HANG HANG 🔫

What gun goes HANG

[lethal kayak]

high school comp sci is like

introductory java course

[hardy glen]

my teacher did not even know java

and taught it from a book

and made us write code on paper

like bro where is the auto complete

[misty cradle]

?

wtf

[hardy glen]

Yup

Shit was cancer. Esp since she didn’t even know programming principals

I could’ve taught that class better

Anyone here could’ve

She used to be an english teacher and decided to learn programming and would say “bear with me guys i am learning with you”

Like doesn’t there have to be a test to let these teachers teach CS classes

[subtle grail]

ap test moment

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-gif-5535732

[hardy glen]

I didn’t take that shit. I dropped out of HS by that point lmao

Probably would’ve passed it too. I spent the whole time playing games or trying to access administer access

So i could install virtual machines or emulators

[primal perch]

utilman to cmd.exe is a classic

still works on modern windows

yeah thats the executable

utilman

[torn oriole]

Window skill issue

Yep

[primal perch]

yeah its not really a vulnerability

bc like you have disk access already

[torn oriole]

It's not a bug it's a feature

[primal perch]

well its no different than how macos or linux is easily pwnable with disk access

except ofc if you use bitdefender / filevault

[torn oriole]

Target disk mode

Unless you have firmware password on Intel

[misty cradle]

pp

[torn oriole]

Encrypted data better than unencrypted

Cant you like, not access single user mode properly anymore

Yeah

The mount command it legit tells you to use is wrong nowadays

You can't use mount -uw / ever since big sur iirc

Genuinely curious as to why apple doesn't fix it tho

Watch the next major macOS remove single user mode entirely

True

[restive ether]

sorry

[primal perch]

[hardy glen]

Wait can you only store xcode on an external drive. Is it possible to also have all the simulator shit, etc symlinked to the drive as well

I want to use xcode on my m1 air but that shit only got 128gb and i don’t want to use 50% of my drive on xcode

[twilit jungle]

What else you gonna store on it?

[lime pivot]

move /Library/Developer/CoreSimulator/Profiles/Runtimes there, then leave a symlink at the original place to the new location

[faint timber]

https://dinfuehr.github.io/blog/encoding-of-immediate-values-on-aarch64/
@grave sparrow found a good article

[young lagoon]

@tepid olive

GORLIS

GHERKINS

[weary heath]

true

[misty cradle]

3 is a good face. you can even accesorize it, by adding paws (:3c) or making it evil (>:3) or both (>:3c) or you can evil give it another mouth (:33) ...theres so much you can do with :3 its amazing really. such a simple and cute, yet versatile face

[high citrus]

How would I replace mp3's inside a binary file? the binary file seems to be a proprietary file format that contains "partitions" starting and ending with the ascii File. At the beginning of the partition it lists all the filenames of the (mp3-)files inside the partition. The binary is playable using a mp3 player and I can hear all the tunes.

the linux file command sees the file as data

and binwalk doesn't find any information

[restive ether]

balls dot mp3

[wispy delta]

whats the best ios version to start dev on? or are there any differences at all?

[hardy glen]

define "ios dev", if you mean make tweaks then iOS 14, if you mean app development then latest is the best

it won't make that much of a difference because the knowledge will be the same

[hardy glen]

I can't find /Library/../CoreSimulator but i did symlink the coresimulator folder found in /Users/../Library/Developer but if i do that, there simulators disappear and it won't let me add a new one

i also symlinked the xcode(/Users/../Library/Developer/Xcode) folder and the xcode app which work fine though

ln -s /Volumes/SSD/Library/Developer/CoreSimulator /Users/../Library/Developer

exactly what i did, first moved the folder and then symlinked. if i move the folder back then simulators show up and everything works fine

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/59159232/can-i-install-xcode-on-an-external-hard-drive-along-with-the-iphone-simulator-ap there's an answer here but he says the newer xcode versions have issues

i am confused because these are not installed, if they were i would see them in Library/Developer/CoreSimulator/Profiles/Runtimes but my simulators still work

i guess i only have the latest firmwares installed rn

[wispy delta]

I gues tweaks

[indigo peak]

might have what?

[wispy delta]

Because it should be easier, is it?

[hardy glen]

no

making tweaks is not "easier"

[wispy delta]

Sorry bro im just trying to find a starting point

[hardy glen]

with tweaks, you need to have a basic knowledge of Objc, UIKit, and how applications work

[hardy glen]

its good, you shouldn't have to worry about iOS versions much. All you really need is Objc, UIKit

do you have prior programming knowledge, are you familiar with objective c

if not, are you familiar with oop concepts

if the answer is no, then making tweaks will be significantly harder for you. If you do not know Objective C or UIKit, then i would recommend starting out with making apps if you own a mac.

[young lagoon]

@tepid olive

[wispy delta]

I used to do cp on c

and learned java

[hardy glen]

okay then you should be fine just learn objc and the uikit framework

[ocean raptor]

Nvm

[hardy glen]

#development message

@wispy delta ^

@indigo peak did you end up getting frida to work

[indigo peak]

i never tried lmao

i started doing something else

and then forgot lmao

[hardy glen]

of course

[indigo peak]

@hardy glen do yk if its possible to crack apps jailed

like get the ipa

[hardy glen]

I think you can. I am not sure though if i can say the name of the tools that allow you to do that

[hardy glen]

tldr but here's this, might give you the answer you are looking for . https://highaltitudehacks.com/2018/07/27/ios-application-security-part-51-dumping-decrypted-ipa-and-dynamic-instrumentation-on-a-non-jailbroken-device/

it says to use frida-ios-dump but i think you need to be jailbroken to use it so idk what this guy is talking about

[restive ether]

you can do it only with an m1 device i think

[restive ether]

https://github.com/majd/ipatool

might help you

[indigo peak]

thanks

[hardy glen]

yea idk if you can decrypt though.

[restive ether]

don’t you not need to decrypt apps anymore anyways

someone here said you don’t need to

i forget who

https://github.com/paradiseduo/appdecrypt

[hardy glen]

F he doesn't have a m1

[restive ether]

poor

i don’t think there’s many, if any options without an m1

[hardy glen]

nah you need a jailbroken device to decrypt

[indigo peak]

true but i just dont really need an m1

im fine with a windows pc

[restive ether]

i need it

so buy one and ship it up my way

[primal perch]

penis

[tacit spade]

https://twitter.com/ethanrdoesmc_/status/1492578655821778944?s=21

EthanRDoesMC (@EthanRDoesMC_)

you ever be learning about time complexity in your CS class and you think about all the sins you’ve committed

Twitter · Feb 12, 2022, 7:17 PM

[hardy glen]

that's what they all say until they get one

[hardy glen]

yes especially realized that i could've used a map instead of brute forcing my way into a lot of shit

[tacit spade]

once I committed an O(n⁵)

[hardy glen]

look at this https://github.com/HearseDev/logos-format/blob/c6510f1ae27c264b04899db311c9e20622c605cb/logos-format.py#L41

that shit is ran on every line in a file

[tacit spade]

oh my god

[hardy glen]

i need to fix it but i was too lazy. i knew what i was doing at the time but i didn't know any python

so i was like fuck it lets brute force lmfao

[tacit spade]

translucency Parallax was laggy for a reason

[next wadi]

i thought this was the real logos src for a minute

im sleepy

[hardy glen]

nah it's a script that makes clang-format logos friendly

[tacit spade]

cry about it

[hardy glen]

its really the % sign that makes clang-format act up

[tacit spade]

seen on Twitter, NOT MINE

[next wadi]

python alternative?

[hardy glen]

someone that's a python master could probably rewrite that script into half and increase performance

[next wadi]

i could

im lazy

[hardy glen]

okay bet rewrite it because i won't do it until my calc test lmao

help out the 16 people that use that shit

[tacit spade]

So my CS professor is like

hella smart

and I’m stuck on this one assignment

where I make a priority queue

[next wadi]

okay

[tacit spade]

and I’m so used to just “it works enough” and he has these automatic test cases that are designed for like every possible wrong implementation

[next wadi]

is there like

an example file i should test it with

[hardy glen]

Any tweak that uses logos

Honestly

There’s actually a bug in logos if you add new lines in %init in like a special case so thats the only time this gave me issues

https://github.com/theos/logos/issues/80

For that you could use clang format disable/enable

For the brute force shit, you could use a unordered map

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-dumb-duh-gif-13669009

me when

[undone nest]

me when develop

[ocean raptor]

Hey @lime pivot, think we could get an open source loader.app?

[late ridge]

Thanks!!

[hardy glen]

Happy birthday 🎊

[primal perch]

@late ridge happy birthday big man

[late ridge]

Tanks u

[misty cradle]

@late ridge happy birthday big man

[primal perch]

[late ridge]

Thx

[hardy glen]

I am definitely the 4th

[faint timber]

Yah same ida 7.7

[pearl sail]

also the 4th one though I don't use it for anything atm

[hardy glen]

i think i am still using ida 7.6, i need to "update"

state your pronouns pls

is mach what mach prefer primarily

is mach what mach prefer primarily

yes

there is no you in your pronouns

exactly

or is kernel what kernel prefer primarily

alright i wish kernel the best in kernel's endeavors

[primal perch]

same

[next wadi]

Oh Great Heavens

[weary heath]

someone send 7.7 macos build

[primal perch]

no

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-gif-5535732

[hardy glen]

@azure sail https://iphonedev.wiki/index.php/Breadcrumbs

[azure sail]

True

[ocean raptor]

Is that still accurate?

[hardy glen]

Idek honestly

[ocean raptor]

I'd check and update the page

[restive ether]

probably not it was before X devices

they probably changed it then

[hardy glen]

Yea breadcrumb is tough for a first tweak since it might be hard for you to look for what handles breadcrumbs

[ocean raptor]

That's why you should figure out how to do it on new devices and update the page, make sure to leave that current page but mark it as for older versions

I still need to write a page for Sharing.framework 😭

[hardy glen]

Bet i might do it if its easy rn

you know what would be great

fuzzy searching every framework lmao

[hardy glen]

https://headers.cynder.me/index.php?sdk=iOS14.8&fw=PrivateFrameworks/SpringBoard.framework&file=Headers%2FSBDeviceApplicationSceneStatusBarBreadcrumbProvider.h

idk @azure sail wants to do but you can change title/hide it here.

[azure sail]

Hello

[ocean raptor]

Looks useful

[azure sail]

Hot

[hardy glen]

Its that class, %hook it and check methods

[azure sail]

I have tweak idea that I wanna make

[hardy glen]

Do it. Bring it to life

[azure sail]

True

[hardy glen]

If its UI related then it would be harder

[primal perch]

hard

:sex:

https://tenor.com/view/clash-royale-emotes-thumbs-up-smile-gif-14309344

[hardy glen]

This is like a model class. You would need to figure out where breadcrumbs ui is being made

Probably status bar shit

Not sure though

[hardy glen]

@azure sail https://github.com/ren7995/croutons13/blob/master/src/Tweak/Tweak.xm found this

[azure sail]

Will take a look at that later

[hardy glen]

its pretty hacky but might give you an idea on how to fuck with the UI.

[silver rampart]

pita to implement without it being slow on my server

https://github.com/cxnder/headers source is online here if anyone else wants to do that though

although you could always just download the SDK.zip files and find cmd it yourself

[restive ether]

replace find with fd and go zoom

[primal perch]

use ripgrep and it goes even zoomer

the only good rust program

[hardy glen]

Yea i use ripgrep

Just download the sdk and i use telescope.nvim with neovim which has a ripgrep option

[restive ether]

all those like rust replacement tools are always faster because they aren’t bogged down by like 40 years of gnu styled C code and the need to support every single compiler under the sun

but they aren’t always as reliable which sucks

at least in the case of fd vs find

[primal perch]

rust devs: yeah this program is faster
also that dev when asked about feature parity and reliability:

[restive ether]

rust devs when you tell them you don’t want to type long flag names

[ocean raptor]

Rip grep has like 2000 flags, and I can never remember any of the short flags 💀

[primal perch]

without language overhead sure c wins i guess but ripgrep is better because the algorithms are better and they use AVX shit iirc

[primal perch]

[misty cradle]

find god

[primal perch]

fr

[surreal mountain]

gm

[pearl sail]

don't type anymore Cameron

[ocean raptor]

any .deb you get from #development is pretty much guaranteed to be dangerous, discord is 100 percent correct

[pearl sail]

fight

[ocean raptor]

especially if it's posted by fiore

[pearl sail]

ok

coming to the swamp

[primal perch]

wholesome

[next wadi]

i dont even do tweak dev anymore bitch ass

[primal perch]

not wholesome

[tepid olive]

[primal perch]

:wholesomehappy:

@shut stag when intjcum

[pearl sail]

Ass bitch

PASTY

BOI

[faint timber]

holy shit why didn't I make it this simple from the start lol @grave sparrow

I was using stupid multiple maps + vectors when all I needed was a map of nested pairs

[faint timber]

It’s just enums lol @grave sparrow

[harsh needle]

what is your ide/editor highlighting sometimes when doing std::make_pair, those t1 and t2 values

[faint timber]

That’s just the function input types clion does that @harsh needle

[lime pivot]

yeah those are the function param names, it’s just a visual label, not actually part of the code

[primal perch]

unless it’s swift

[faint timber]

This is so sad the binary I’m using to test the code doesn’t contain a few of the instructions

Eg ADDS extended register

Missing from iBoot

[primal perch]

this is so sad can we get 10 likes

[glacial matrix]

this is so sad can we get 10 likes Siri, play Despacito

[tribal raptor]

Hi everyone, Is it possible for earn money if we build an iOS app which supported google ads and then we make a tweak to click the those ads automatically?

[glacial matrix]

I think that goes against the ToS of Google Ads

[tribal raptor]

oops, you means the our rules?

[primal perch]

dont tell them about it and im sure youd get away with it

[tepid olive]

how to make 5 cents and get your google account banned: a thread

[pearl sail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/679683965962944586/942513351844565033/IMG_0443.png

[restive ether]

make .07¢ a day [HARD]

[tepid olive]

youre in my walls im in your mothers bedroom we not the same

[pearl sail]

You have no hoes and you are poor. Find God.

[vivid dew]

ok i found him

now what

[pearl sail]

cry less

[silver rampart]

this would get flagged almost instantly

and doing it via a tweak has no advantages over any other convoluted way of doing it

[lime pivot]

Google deals with insane amounts of click fraud and has detection for it, it will be detected and you will get your account suspended without receiving any payment

same goes for any other ad network

[hardy glen]

In case you haven’t heard, that will not work.

In case u missed it

[vivid dew]

yeah this will work, i know a guy who did it once

[primal perch]

i conquer

your mom in bed

[restive ether]

this will not work, i am the guy who did this once

[primal perch]

i don’t think it works

[tepid olive]

it might not work

i think

i can’t give you a definitive answer

[hasty ruin]

I can confirm this works. My son is now a sextillionaire thanks to your ingenious idea!

sex

https://tenor.com/view/troll-pilled-gif-19289988

[hardy glen]

https://twitter.com/foxfortmobile/status/1492817747524259843?s=21

Foxfort Mobile (@foxfortmobile)

Checkl0ck will cost $3
Features:
-Set native passcode
-Unlock device with biometrics
-Autofill password in safari/apps
-biometric authentication in apps
-Sign-in with Apple using biometrics
-lock notes with biometrics
-Install free apps from Appstore via biometrics

NO APPLE PAY

Likes

139

Twitter · Feb 13, 2022, 11:07 AM

[pearl sail]

?

For c1 devices that kill SEP?

[restive ether]

give me 3$ to use your phone like a normal person again

lmao

who needs secure passcodes anyways

[primal perch]

lmao

at least its not as bad as the icloud unlocker shit

8$ for a SN which is just a wrapper around plist removal

[restive ether]

$8 for them to spam files advertising themselves all over your FS too

[primal perch]

damn bro i could really be running cemu on my A14 but apples like

nah

no jit

theres gonna be a port because cemu going open source this year

pretty cool

[hardy glen]

I am curious to see how it works/how well it works

[hardy glen]

Yes

[restive ether]

no bro just give riley $10 for a patreon beta that requires you to have two devices to use JIT

[primal perch]

true you right

[hasty ruin]

Can’t you just

Reboot

[hardy glen]

Yea but you know that people would love to have a lock while they are jailbroken

[silver rampart]

imagine

couldn't be me

[hasty ruin]

but.. but

Face ID!!

[silver rampart]

tbf that's kinda the point

if you dont wanna pay use my shitass tweak and you'll still get a basic passcode implementation

[restive ether]

using a cheeto as a lock

reboot the phone and then what?

[silver rampart]

ah yes bc the first thing anyone at my job is going to do is reboot my phone

[restive ether]

why would anyone at your job be on your phone

[silver rampart]

since they know its jailbroken and A11 SEP cant function when booted from DFU

[primal perch]

dudes taken like 2 years too

[hardy glen]

Biometric authentication in apps. Thats pretty nice ngl. I wonder how he did it. Found the method that implements it and did some shit like limenos did with his biometric tweak

[restive ether]

if its stolen eventually it’s just going to reboot

so

[primal perch]

ios 16 is about to come out and this guys out here still making a 14 passcode tweak

[hardy glen]

Lmaoo

[silver rampart]

why would the majority of users need passcode for any other situation

other than nosy people at work/school/home

who dont know wtf a SEP is

[restive ether]

they don’t, get better friends

[hardy glen]

Idk i guess people like it. Especially in other cultures people are nosy

So foreign people especially like that

[restive ether]

ios 17 coming out and mfs will still be making tweaks to patch ios 14 CVE’s

[silver rampart]

idk i dont get why ppl drop a tweak for a thing ppl asked for then everyone bitches bc it exists

[hardy glen]

Whats the point of a tweak that patches CVE’s isn’t your iphone still vulnerable to that attack? Or does it actually prevent against it

[restive ether]

depends if they did it right

[hardy glen]

I mean to say couldn’t the attacker still try to bypass the patch?

[primal perch]

jailbreak

bottom text

[restive ether]

because they’re dumb, if a password is that important to you maybe demolishing SEP isn’t your brightest idea

[primal perch]

can’t imagine using a jb anyway just get an android if you really need themes

[silver rampart]

is it that hard to realize people want a passcode for different reasons than u

[restive ether]

it’s not hard to realize if that’s your priority then maybe you’re in the wrong field

nobody should be using a11 checkra1n it’s beyond dumb

[silver rampart]

stupid take

[hardy glen]

Yea foreign people especially would love a passcode tweak. I mean the community people do wilder stuff .

I wouldnt use it on my main

[restive ether]

it’s not stupid, lol. if your priority is security jailbreaking is the absolute wrong place to be

[hardy glen]

I only use it on my X to test stuff

Yea true, but look at the type of requests for tweaks people make. He’s just trying to get the bag and cater to those type of people

3$ for it too. Even if 100 people buy it, thats easy 300 for him

Plus he has drm i think, his shit doesn’t get cracked

[restive ether]

265 but yeah

probably less

fees and taxes blah blah blah

[silver rampart]

let the man make his money smh

[hardy glen]

Fax

[silver rampart]

if ppl "need" passcode they can use my free crap

nobody making anyone buy his thing

[restive ether]

yeah krit i know you’d defend it because you tried doing the same thing and took the L

[hardy glen]

Lets relax

[silver rampart]

[restive ether]

just because i’m not forced to buy it doesn’t mean you’re free from critiquing

[silver rampart]

it was available on my patreon for a week

[restive ether]

that’s not how life works hate to tell you

[silver rampart]

and so many people here bitched i just made it free bc im a pushover

[restive ether]

especially from a guy who denies same day refunds hahaha

worst person to defend

[silver rampart]

i think its a really stupid criticism regardless of who it's aimed at

[primal perch]

haven’t read bird poop email in a year

[hardy glen]

Hey man i need my refund, the preferences stopped working

[silver rampart]

snoop dogg on at the super 🥣

[restive ether]

twickd don’t care cause they don’t pay taxes anyways

[silver rampart]

now its 50 cent

[primal perch]

true

[indigo peak]

@primal perch when ios 15 jb comes out want to make a paid tweak with me

i need money

[silver rampart]

paid tweak duo

which one of you will scam the other

[hardy glen]

LMAO

true

[primal perch]

me and scoop didn’t

[hardy glen]

Better off working alone

[primal perch]

he a real homie

didn’t scam me

[hardy glen]

Scoop was cool, where did he disappear to

[silver rampart]

kendrick lamar is on

[hardy glen]

W

[primal perch]

college

he still alive but not in jb

obv

[hardy glen]

Oh wait you guys collabed on bird poop

[primal perch]

ye

[hardy glen]

“Allegedly”

[silver rampart]

what's bird poop

[hasty ruin]

Oh I thought it was just scoob

[hardy glen]

The imessage hax mods

[primal perch]

he did most of the hacks but i did bball and archery stuff

among other shit

[hardy glen]

Scoop did the cup pong auto

?

[indigo peak]

i did gameseagull

[silver rampart]

eminem is on

[indigo peak]

what song

[hardy glen]

damn bro stole their revenue

[primal perch]

yea

[indigo peak]

tell me the damn song cynder

[silver rampart]

started with forget about dre

now he's on the 8 mile song

[primal perch]

lose

yourself

[tepid olive]

bird poop 2?????

[hardy glen]

Might have to fade fiore for ruining your remaining profits

Lmao

How much money do you make off tweaks anyway

[primal perch]

perhaps

[silver rampart]

now they're all performing Still D.R.E.

[primal perch]

bird shit was 7500$ revenue iirc

[hardy glen]

Wtf

Thats nuts

[primal perch]

-20% in twickd and like 10% paypal

or 20%

[hardy glen]

DAYUM

[primal perch]

so we only saw 60-70% of that

[hardy glen]

So its actually not bad to make paid tweaks

[primal perch]

yea

[hardy glen]

Obviously ones that are high in demand

[silver rampart]

half time show is over

meh

[hardy glen]

I know that homeplus did really well too

[silver rampart]

it did

[hardy glen]

Okay so boom. If you guys obviously had good tweaks that made revenue, why stop making tweaks

Job? Or found other ways to make money

[silver rampart]

enough to cover IDA Pro and to save up enough to move out

[hardy glen]

Damn

[primal perch]

motivation is gone

depression

[hardy glen]

So it would be safe to say it changed your life

[primal perch]

and shit

[hasty ruin]

Burn out + no ideas

[silver rampart]

community is ass, sales dropped like crazy, marketing is a PITA, mental health

so on so on so on

[primal perch]

i can’t name a person here that didn’t get depression since 2020

[hardy glen]

Lmaoo

[hasty ruin]

Yeah sales drop so quickly after launch

[hardy glen]

Cracks

[silver rampart]

doing RE is a lot more fun

[tepid olive]

can confirm your mom isnt depressed, i keep her company

[primal perch]

thats good

thanks

[tepid olive]

anytime

[hardy glen]

RE is fun but do you get paid for it

[silver rampart]

depends 😛

[primal perch]

@silver rampart what archs and decomps did you get

i respect the actually getting ida pro

[silver rampart]

and working on stuff like ktool + the headers site + ibootloader + dragon is way more fun

[hardy glen]

Say the stuff you are making rn, ktool, etc. are obviously really good but you won’t be compensated for that work

[silver rampart]

for 7.5-7.6, just arm64 decomp

[primal perch]

oh yeah you get all archs in pro nvm

just decomp is extra

[hardy glen]

True but it don’t play like homeplus doe

[silver rampart]

this year for 7.7, x86_64 and arm64

[silver rampart]

pays in my mental health

[primal perch]

cant relate because i have all the decomps pirated

[silver rampart]

i have a good enough job now, i'm glad this stuff is a hobby again

[primal perch]

• russian spyware

but it works

[silver rampart]

was far less enjoyable when it became a job

[hardy glen]

Reported

[primal perch]

its too good to not pirate it

[silver rampart]

^

[tepid olive]

what did you "buy"

[primal perch]

i could waste half my life using ghidra but theres tools that do it better

[tepid olive]

oh

[primal perch]

same with photoshop

[hasty ruin]

your mother

[tepid olive]

oh

[silver rampart]

adobe and ida are two things nobody gives a shit if you pirate

[silver rampart]

yeah lol

[primal perch]

yeah they get their money from businesses

same with windows

[tepid olive]

• nintendo stuff

[primal perch]

they do not care if you pirate windows

[hardy glen]

I hate the fact that ghidra is in java

[silver rampart]

i use https://photopea.com/ instead of photoshop

[primal perch]

same

[tepid olive]

nintendo def cares

fuck em tho

[primal perch]

then i dont have to install anything

[hardy glen]

The gui trash

[primal perch]

photopea slaps

[tepid olive]

paint.net supremacy

[primal perch]

true

i love nintendo and their games and i watch all their directs

still pirate them tho

[tepid olive]

nintendo fans when i am playing their games at 1080p 60fps for free

Joke!

[hasty ruin]

Microsoft knows exactly who is using MAS scripts

[hardy glen]

Fuck nintendo

[primal perch]

true

[hasty ruin]

They just don’t care enough to do anything

[primal perch]

nintendo is ass tier company

[silver rampart]

imagine not paying for windows pro

[tepid olive]

i dont even get why windows is paid

home

[silver rampart]

same reason ida costs 5 grand

[tepid olive]

they basically gave 10 and 11 out for free to everybody

[silver rampart]

corporate licensing is $$$$$

[primal perch]

too busy using enterprise

[tepid olive]

pro and up i get why its paid

[primal perch]

the only usable version of windows

[silver rampart]

they dont gaf about consumer market

[tepid olive]

but they might as well make home free

[primal perch]

enterprise should be pro

because they gimped everythin in pro and you have to resort to reghacks which suck

[tepid olive]

use enterprise ltsc

its so much better

[primal perch]

ltsc isnt designed for daily use

[hardy glen]

Plus ida knows its the best there is so that price tag makes sense for some people.

[tepid olive]

i havent had any issues yet

[primal perch]

doesnt have mainlined features and the drivers arent sandboxed among other things

im sure its not bad but i prefer to use enterprise

[tepid olive]

mainlined features such as

bloatware

[primal perch]

yeah

[tepid olive]

useless feature

[primal perch]

like microsoft store

[tepid olive]

analytics

[indigo peak]

ill make a theos installer but for $.50 on twickd

[primal perch]

so i dont have to run a whole powershell script to intsall a UWP app

[silver rampart]

its still critical for some contract work i do, definitely worth the money

[indigo peak]

good idea?

[tepid olive]

i only needed like 3 apps i just installed the appx's manually

photos, terminal

and uhh

thats it i think

[hasty ruin]

Windows terminal is good

[primal perch]

enteprrise barely has bloat when you disable it anyway

i turned off game bar and cortana and all

with gpo

doesnt ever come back bc it actually works in enterprise

[hardy glen]

True, i wish i had a good idea to make a tweak and get almost 10 bands.

[tepid olive]

i reinstall a lot bc im a schizo so its annoying having to uninstall candy crush and facebook and shit

[primal perch]

[hardy glen]

I’d finally have money to get a pc

[silver rampart]

writing a tweak using theos in windows terminal

dhowett moment

[hasty ruin]

Did that yesterday

[tepid olive]

i cant stand cli editors

[primal perch]

same

[tepid olive]

i refuse to become a vim nerd

[primal perch]

vscode or im out

[hardy glen]

I use neovim

[tepid olive]

spoiled by copilot too

[primal perch]

fr

[hasty ruin]

i use nano for quick edits, then vs(c) for everything else

[tepid olive]

ye

[hardy glen]

Ewziez

[primal perch]

copilot is the best autocomplete because it works ootb and i do nothing else

[silver rampart]

go thank dhowett he's ur entire workflow

[primal perch]

no language server

no nothing

[silver rampart]

+1 if you use https://iphonedev.wiki/

[hardy glen]

Going from vim to vscode is hell.

[hasty ruin]

And it makes writing comments 20x easier

[primal perch]

ratio if you dont have contributions on it

based wiki

[hardy glen]

I might update the breadcrumbs page

[primal perch]

https://iphonedev.wiki/index.php/PSURLManager

most barebones ass page ever

[silver rampart]

doesn't even have the frameworks box

smh

active wiki

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa
moment

[primal perch]

rip

when you accidentally scam a ebay seller on the return

bought an hd 7750 that was defective for 50$ and i tried to return it but usps complained about something and gave it back to me

still got the money

[tepid olive]

why the fuck would you buy a 7750

working or not

[primal perch]

macos

[tepid olive]

man

[primal perch]

supported natively in monterey

but since that failed i just said fuck it and paid scalper prices for a rx 460

which has worked great

[hasty ruin]

Was just about to say this

[tepid olive]

go ahead put the 7750 in ur oven

[primal perch]

nah its amd that shit going in the garbage

[tepid olive]

watch it work too

true

[primal perch]

i got gayd by amd drivers yesterday

i was removing their shit drivesr on windows with their utility and it removed my nvidia vulkan dlls

[tepid olive]

i had to downgrade geforce experience and add their servers to my hosts file

bc they fucked the fps counter up

[primal perch]

had to reinstall my nvidia drivers too

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688121419980341282/942582600835420170/unknown.png

amd moment

[silver rampart]

was gonna say just buy a rx 580

how much do they cost now

[tepid olive]

why is vulkan unchecked

[primal perch]

like 300

so yeah

paid 99$ for a 2gb MSI 460 instead

works just the same basically

[primal perch]

bc amd drivers removed it

[silver rampart]

WTF

[primal perch]

yeah

[silver rampart]

i paid $120 for mine

absurd

[pearl sail]

500 series Radeon gpu are unattainable

[silver rampart]

their hash rate is shit

why do they want them so bad

[primal perch]

even 4gb cards which cant do ETH are still 200+

not worth it

[pearl sail]

Even the 400 series is bad pricing

[primal perch]

cheapest pulse

[silver rampart]

tempted to mine some ETC on mine while i'm not using it

for funsies

[primal perch]

my 3070 paid for itself last year bc of that

and then some but im a rard and lost my private key

0.05 eth gone

[tepid olive]

lol

[pearl sail]

Alway keep a printed copy of your key

[primal perch]

i did actually

[pearl sail]

[primal perch]

threw it away accidnetally bc i use random shit as scratch paper

and dont pay attention

@tepid olive microsoft removing the time from taskbar on 2nd monitor and thinking its a good idea

[tepid olive]

[silver rampart]

superbowl commercials this year have been shit

[indigo peak]

only you would pay attention to the commercials.

[primal perch]

everyone does that

[silver rampart]

that's the main reason most ppl watch the superbowl

[primal perch]

its easily more entertaining than watching football

[silver rampart]

they used to be good

[indigo peak]

sounds nerdy

[silver rampart]

used to be the main event

[primal perch]

even then football is the best sport to watch

[silver rampart]

they've just been getting shittier as the years go on tho

[primal perch]

watching baseball or golf is probably the most boring shit possibe

[silver rampart]

baseball is great

smh

[pearl sail]

Don’t care + you are a tomato headass

[silver rampart]

lmao the 3070 LHR model still has a higher hash rate than the sapphire rx 580s

[primal perch]

that and LHR is mostly bypassed now anyway

lhr is cringe

idk why people cheered companies artificially limiting hardware capabilities

its not like youre gonna be able to get one anyway

[silver rampart]

bc we want graphics cards and it was something worth trying lol

[primal perch]

crypto is also cringe but not as much as what nvidia did

[silver rampart]

probably gonna be stuck with this 580 for another few years

[primal perch]

rip

[untold river]

cant even have seconds on clock

[silver rampart]

both of my monitors have time wym

[primal perch]

its in win 11

[silver rampart]

so many crypto commercials this year smh

[silver rampart]

i have given up on getting a miner working

[primal perch]

[misty cradle]

kritcoin

cyncoin

[primal perch]

which thread is ida maxing out challenge

[lime pivot]

oops

still bummed I mined around 0.20 LTC back in 2013 and deleted the local wallet because I figured it was pointless

0.20, 2, or 20, can't remember any more

would rather not think of it 🤬

[gentle grove]

isn't that like $24

[lime pivot]

yeah I don't remember how much it was

I remember it having somewhat meaningful value to be bummed about

[primal perch]

2400$ if it was 20

[gentle grove]

true

[sour halo]

so

eta when chariz merch

[lime pivot]

yes

[gentle grove]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/645330498763096084/941879808328093737/unknown.png

Bing

[ocean raptor]

I know people who watch golf on tv

I also live in florida, so

[lime pivot]

you live in the retirement state bruh of course you know people who watch golf

[primal perch]

when i be chillin then suddenly need to shit urgently

[lime pivot]

doesn't work /s

[ocean raptor]

[ocean raptor]

@lime pivot did you see this?

[lime pivot]

oh I was meant to reply not really

[sour halo]

wtf, sad

[lime pivot]

at least not with the current way it's architected because loaderd also does a few other things unrelated to loader the app

I would like to see it though

would suggest prodding the guys on the checkrain server

now I answered that @ocean raptor I have a question for you 🙃

how do you feel about two things

1. a .pkg pro bootstrap for macOS, one each for arm64/amd64, which Zebra macOS (👀) can download and install as part of first run experience
2. Zebra just bundling its own copy of pro's libapt-pkg.dylib and its dependencies, calling out to the system's apt-get for installs, making it effectively work independent of system apt

that would apply to both iOS and macOS ^

[ocean raptor]

1. Interesting idea, how do .pkgs work? All that the install needs to do is extract a tarball an add one line to /etc/{,z}profile
2. That is what Cydia does, and personally, I'm not a fan, but I understand because sbingner is still on libapt-pkg5 while we are on libapt-pkg6, so while it would work I would prefer using the system one but I understand why you would bundle your own

[lime pivot]

pkg is just a slightly smarter slightly dumber version of deb pretty much

so it'd just contain a data xar archive with /opt/procursus/whatever that it can just immediately extract

and then can run a post-install script to configure everything

I just figured it's cleaner to have a nice self-contained pkg for bootstrapping since that option is available

also can sign + notarise the entire pkg

[ocean raptor]

I'll talk to the team about it, we'll probably do it, but I want to get Hayden's approval/opinion

[lime pivot]

not just can but need to* actually

sounds good

not a fan of bundling libapt either but I figure it's safe to do if we have it configured just for Zebra's internal use, Zebra library/cache dirs

[ocean raptor]

If you can get sbingner to upgrade his apt, then I'd recommend using the system one. He'll be more likely to upgrade if it's you asking not me

[lime pivot]

only places where it has to do "system" things is when performing installs, and when syncing the system apt zebra.list with the one in the Zebra library dir

which… I think? is the same as what Cydia does

[ocean raptor]

libapt is only being used for dep resolution?

[lime pivot]

deps and general access to its packages/sources database

for displaying package data etc

[ocean raptor]

I think Cydia uses libapt-pkg for installing too (which I'd recommend Zebra do but not sure if that'd add more complexity then you're prepared for)

[lime pivot]

other than that it's using a pretty similar model to Zebra 1.x/Sileo, downloads still handled internally by Zebra for the perf benefit

the apt methods model is just incompatible with the perf benefits of http/2

[ocean raptor]

architecture from 23 years ago moment

[lime pivot]

it does, but I thought about it and figured everything we can do with libapt-inst, we can do by just calling out to apt-get with 10000x less pain

[ocean raptor]

yeah, I understand; I think using a bundled libapt will be fine, but be careful, I'd hate for it to break the system

[lime pivot]

the API is pretty solid either way you do it, most of what we need is handled by StatusFd or whatever it's called

machine-parseable status updates, same as Cydia uses

[lime pivot]

mm, yeah. my only reservation is the unknown of someone breaking Zebra in future

[lime pivot]

found a hardcoded warning string in the source the other day about Debian FTP servers being planned to be shut down in 2017

[ocean raptor]

for example when Zebra is abandon-ware but still widely used so the maintainer for some random repo has to do hacky patches to get it to compile with the latest SDK but an APT from 7 years ago

[untold river]

this is you with cydia right

[ocean raptor]

yes

[untold river]

i can hear the internal screaming halfway round the globe

[ocean raptor]

I've learned to block it out by now

[pearl sail]

just one more update for iOS 15

🚎

[ocean raptor]

rootless cydia

[pearl sail]

I can see you doing it

[untold river]

Just abandon Cydia and tell people to move on

[ocean raptor]

~/Documents/iOS 
➜ rm -rf cydia-1 && echo "Free at last"
Free at last

[ocean raptor]

That's what's going to happen

[untold river]

But to be fair considering how the subreddit is there will be a fuck ton of resistance

"waaaaa where's my cydia"

[pearl sail]

I mean it kinda depends honestly tho

[ocean raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-cry-ez-gif-23845968

my response to all of them

[pearl sail]

If Cydia is still around in iOS 15

[untold river]

exactly

[primal perch]

ok

crying about it

[pearl sail]

then it will probably get updated on Pro's side by someone

[ocean raptor]

it will not be, unless sbingner decides to do rootless

[untold river]

maybe they'll realize for once that saurik barely cares about jailbreaking anymore

[untold river]

cydia.bingner.com/repo

[ocean raptor]

literally just made 2 million dollars, why would he ever even think about jailbreaking and the constant harassment from this community

[pearl sail]

INB4 bingner drops rootless Cydia deb on the git repo

[ocean raptor]

imagine calling it a cydia repo not an apt repo

so cringe

[pearl sail]

patches from Cameron have been permanently rejected

[untold river]

I mean there's like one thing different about mobileapt repos

CydiaIcon.png

[ocean raptor]

they aren't signed

[untold river]

and that

[ocean raptor]

oh

that too

RepoIcon.png

[primal perch]

cydia repo

[pearl sail]

oper aidyc

[ocean raptor]

(this is used on Sileo mac only)

[pearl sail]

@grim sparrow come back and make it better

[lime pivot]

excuse me but that’s Cydia™/APT, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Cydia™ plus APT

[ocean raptor]

Cydia+APT+dpkg+Procursus

Do you use Sileo?

No, I use Cydia+APT+DPkg+Procursus+GNU

[lime pivot]

reminds me of when both Sileo and Zebra copied the email subject thing without understanding what it meant

Zebra/APT(Z): Cephei (1.17)

[ocean raptor]

Sileo's email subject is still broken so it doesn't say the name of the package

just optional

[lime pivot]

think I made it just Zebra: now

[lime pivot]

nah it was fixed ages ago

we still get those on occasion though

[ocean raptor]

I've gotten emails with that about quickactions multiple times

[pearl sail]

No, I use Cydia+APT+DPkg+Procursus+GNU
shouldn't it be Cydia+APT+dpkg+Procursus+GNU+BSD+Apple

[lime pivot]

although I bet packages with no name field still say Optional(nil) tbh

[ocean raptor]

We use lots of GNU stuff: coreutils/findutils/diffutils

[pearl sail]

True

anti_GNU_STRAP wen?!?!

[ocean raptor]

Actually I've gotten 0 emaiils about QuickActions because it is perfect and bug free

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/Procursus/discussions/730

🙃

[pearl sail]

merge it

[ocean raptor]

oh @lime pivot, I realized why forcing coreutils has never broken a bunch of stuff on your mac, it's cause apple's scripts use full paths to bins, it doesn't use PATH

[vivid dew]

based apple

sending other unix boxes to /dev/null

[lime pivot]

surprising but good call on their part

mainly for security

[ocean raptor]

I realized this cause while looking at the new changes in the monterey open source dumps I noticed they changed a bunch of binname to /usr/bin/binname in scripts

[lime pivot]

only time I've ever had things break honestly is when I'm running something written for macOS only that's unfortunate enough to use a BSD-specific flag, or tools that do support both BSD and GNU, but do so by checking [[ $(uname -s) == Darwin ]]

[pearl sail]

can't have leaks when you send the leaks to the void. #securityfeature

[ocean raptor]

surely you mean [ "$(uname -s)" = "Darwin" ]

the correct way to do that though is if tool --version 2>&1 | grep -q "GNU"; then gnustuff; else bsdstuff fi

[lime pivot]

that's what Theos does now

the way I did it originally was for it to look for gsed and use that instead of sed if it exists 😬

actually, not sed, it was du

that stayed for an incredibly long time, till I had to do something about the slight problem that it was deciding whether the platform is "iOS" or "macOS" based on whether arch == arm / arm64

[ocean raptor]

I do that in some scripts in Procursus/build_tools

I don't feel like changing it

hasn't failed me yet

[pearl sail]

bad

lol

[ocean raptor]

go ahead, PR a fix

[lime pivot]

now it just treats all Darwin the same, and only major behavior difference is that it'll look for xcrun and use it if it exists, otherwise it'll just expect your toolchain bins to be in PATH

[pearl sail]

That would require me to PR