same
#development
tepid olive
ripe pike
if (!div.iscenter) {div.center()}
why it no work
tardy narwhal
if this is js, make sure to check for null as well because you never know with that damn language
native dune
```
if (!div.iscenter) {div.center()}
```
why it no work
nfr
subtle grail
🚎
next wadi
At least replace names/strings
fax
indigo peak
'use strict'; var exports = {}; const oldObjectCreate = this.Object.create; const _window = this; _window.Object.create = (...args) => { const obj = oldObjectCreate.apply(_window.Object, args); if (args[0] === null) { _window.modules = obj; _window.Object.create = oldObjectCreate; } return obj; }; Object.defineProperty(exports, '__esModule', { value: true }); exports.getModule = void 0; function getModule(filter, exports) { if (exports === void 0) { exports = true; } var id = Object.keys(modules).map(function (i) { return Number(i); }).find(function (i) { if (i >= 940 && i < 968) return false; if (i == 199 || i == 432 || i == 433 || i == 444 || i == 445 || i == 456) return false; return __r(i) && filter(__r(i)); }); if (id === undefined) return null; var module = modules[id].publicModule; return exports ? module.exports : module; } alert(getModule(m => m.ThemeColorMap));
lime pivot
yeah do it, looks good to me
pearl sail
I have sun chips... should I make some nachos?
You gotta do what you gotta do
primal perch
untold river
very professional email fiore
indigo peak
very professional email fiore
That wasn’t my email
torn oriole
indigo peak
That was lightmann showing me
untold river
🗿
untold river
pearl sail
tepid olive
tepid olive
native dune
indigo peak
Yeahhh
hardy glen
Thats not how i would’ve went about it. Sent him an email to change the class names
prisma grove
If I used a class from an open source project, but rewrote about half of it from Objective-C to C++ does that count as stealing or did I make enough changes, if I credit them either way?
hardy glen
My question is why would you rewrite
if you change the class names, you are the owner now since they are your class names so they get no credit
Not true if they never figure it out
snow python
tf is h2?
snow python
Legend, this is why we cant have nice things
ocean raptor
If I used a class from an open source project, but rewrote about half of it from...
Depends on the license, but most require attribution no matter how much you change, calculatorhistory didn't have a license so it was copyrighted with all rights reserved, so he had no right to copy it even with attribution
primal perch
ghost blah blah blah
ocean raptor
Yes, copyrighted
indigo peak
I did before
restive ether
optiballs
indigo peak
Email Optimo
he sent a really long reply that i legit can't understand
his vocabulary
i need a tl;dr
indigo peak
Thanks for that detailed investigation and sharing your findings.
While the project does not appear to use the various dylibs directly,
I think he may be taking from source-published projects of varying
license. In your estimation, would you categorize this as this
purported author having repurposed open-source code from github and
elsewhere, into an all-in-one package , and possibly he's added or
created his own preference bundle to make it all like one coherent
product for sale?
I'm asking for what you feel is the right way to characterize this. It
seems obvious now knowing what you've shown here, but I'd like to make
sure because I cant devote that kind of detailed investigation.
This is not good and I won't allow it to remain on the repo if true. I
only wish I could have heard sooner and possibly have offered help
sooner, but its really great that you took the time and initiative to
disassemble to make a sure determination and let me know as you have
here. I really appreciate that immensely because my resources are
relatively limited these days for this kind of stuff. However, I'm
happy to take action based on good info. I was slightly suspicious of
this h2 product, but there was seemingly a language barrier making
communication with the author difficult.
Could you say a bit more about how you made determination about the
other third party tweaks you mention? For example, you search for the
method names on google and see them on github?
Thanks
Could you also say about which of the dylib files in h2 you checked.
and which version of h2 you checked? Thanks
restive ether
in the time he wrote that he could’ve actually checked himself
why do we let this guy be a default source again
untold river
Thanks for that detailed investigation and sharing your findings.
While the proj...
first paragraph: are you sure h2's author has mixed code from various github repos
second paragraph: optimo asking for verification, basically how would you "characterize" h2's behavior of stealing code 🗿
third paragraph: i will takedown h2 if code stealing is true, however i cannot communicate with h2's dev because they are chinese and i do not speak the language
fourth paragraph: how did you know h2 stole code, did the method names pop up on google or something similar
indigo peak
first paragraph: are you sure h2's author has mixed code from various github rep...
yes i am sure because if you compare calculatorhistory in ida compared to h2 in ida, it is 99% identical, only thing being different is the english strings converted to chinese. and they stole the source code from github, not using the dylib, but since its unlicensed on github, its all rights reserved, and i did not give permission
untold river
ps: which of the dylibs did you check, and on what version
indigo peak
second paragraph: optimo asking for verification, basically how would you "chara...
its a moyai skull androidskull moment
indigo peak
third paragraph: i will takedown h2 if code stealing is true, however i cannot c...
sucks for h2 dev all of his profit is gone
indigo peak
fourth paragraph: how did you know h2 stole code, did the method names pop up on...
another dev contacted me through reddit
indigo peak
ps: which of the dylibs did you check, and on what version
i only checked h2.dylib, which contained my code, and version 7.2, latest release
vivid dew
tr
untold river
also optimo admitted that he is disconnected from the community in paragraph 4 🗿
restive ether
third paragraph: i will takedown h2 if code stealing is true, however i cannot c...
why would you accept the packages of people you can’t clearly communicate with
atomic horizon
```JS
'use strict'; var exports = {}; const oldObjectCreate = this.Object.create...
Is that an exploit?
indigo peak
deadass, ios 15 jailbreak in js
hardy glen
Is that an exploit?
Thats a ios 15 0 day
indigo peak
@untold river @hardy glen
The tweak does take source code from other tweaks, example, CalculatorHistory, as it is open sourced – so h2 doesn’t use the dylibs directly, however, if you were to compare the two tweaks in ida, the two are almost identical, the only differences being the English strings converted to Chinese. I’m not sure about the other tweaks mentioned, but CalculatorHistory is unlicensed on GitHub, so the rights belong to me, all rights reserved, and I did not give permission.
I think it’s kind of rude and an dbag move to take all this code, add a paywall for free tweaks, and then not even provide credit for the dev’s the code was stolen from.
Since you can’t contact the developer because of the language barrier there’s nothing you can do besides translate a termination message and email it to them or something.
I was made aware of h2 having stolen code from another jailbreak developer over a reddit dm.
My tweak was bundled into h2.dylib, but im assuming the other tweaks are contained in the several other dylibs. Version 7.2 (latest release)
hows that
hardy glen
Sure
untold river
<@!810818056171421726> <@!827521509207310336>
The tweak does take source code f...
unlicensed may refer to the Unlicense
hardy glen
Let me know the devs info, i have tips on how he could hide it better
And get away with it
indigo peak
untold river
<@!810818056171421726> <@!827521509207310336>
The tweak does take source code f...
CalculatorHistory does not have a license that allows for copying and redistribution
this is more clear imo
hardy glen
Bruh, i literally would give credit to anyone, even if having a convo with them helped me find some shit
I don’t get how people steal
I guess he was broke broke
untold river
Thanks for your quick reply. First of all, the tweak does not use the dylibs directly, but rather compiles the source code (for example, of CalculatorHistory) into its own dylib. However, if you were to disassemble the tweaks, it would be almost identical, the only difference being the English strings translated to Chinese. I’m not sure about the other tweaks mentioned, but CalculatorHistory does not have a license on GitHub, so the rights belong to me, all rights reserved, and I did not give permission.
I think it’s totally misguided take all this code, add a paywall for free tweaks, and then not even provide credit for the developers whose code was stolen from. The best course of action would be to take down h2 immediately, and send its developer a translated termination message.
As for how I found out about this, it was another developer who contacted me through reddit.
I checked h2.dylib, on version 7.2 of the package.
@indigo peak
untold river
put 0BSD on your code 
hardy glen
I had no license on my projects until cameron reminded me to put a license on it
I just pick MIT
indigo peak
Thanks for your quick reply. First of all, the tweak does not use the dylibs dir...
im about to send it
i just sent it
untold river
wholesome
hardy glen
Day 1 of asking the game seagull dev to add a pool feature that adds a new cup after every short you make
indigo peak
wtf
snow python
Well that reply from Optimo is quite cordial. Glad he still has time to help. It looks like hes just asking for you to verify what you said is true and he will pull it. He has always been a bit wordy
untold river
I just pick MIT
MIT is nice, i usually prefer 0BSD though
cant give a fuck about someone reusing my code if my code is shit
untold river
i think that last ping is on canister's piracy list
lime pivot
“checkcover” lmao what a name
untold river
some arabic mfs featured bypass.beerpsi.me in silence 🗿
untold river
some arabic mfs featured bypass.beerpsi.me in silence 🗿
i only knew since github was showing visits from t.co
lime pivot
couldn’t even steal one name, had to steal two
ocean raptor
Its literally free and open source
ripe for the stealing
hardy glen
Lmao
untold river
Why is it on piracy repo
a lot of then dont care
they just want the source to be a centralized tweak source thing
untold river
Its literally free and open source
about to get stolen by h2
hardy glen
Hopefully he changes the class names
tepid olive
couldn’t even steal one name, had to steal two
geosn0w be like
untold river
Hopefully he changes the class names
he'll localize the strings
ocean raptor
what am I doing wrong?
curl -s https://api.canister.me/v1/community/packages/search\?query\="ws.hbang.common"\?responseFields\="latestVersion" | jq .
{
"status": "Successful",
"date": "1/17/2022, 4:19:29 AM",
"data": []
}
dont think you can quote query parameters?
untold river
'https://api.canister.me/v1/community/packages/search?query=ws.hbang.common&responseFields=latestVersion'
this should work
ocean raptor
I used ? to seperate the params instead of &
hasty ruin
ocean raptor
@lime pivot I'm gonna release defaults on Procursus with update-alternatives and Conflicts: ws.hbang.common (<= 1.17), so if you can just get it working before the next cephei release all should be good
restive ether
no, you’re an update alternatives
hardy glen
Bruh twitter app is so dumb
I can’t find how to accept followers
I didn’t even know i had requests. I saw them and i can’t find them again
lime pivot
<@!239564780271173642> I'm gonna release defaults on Procursus with `update-alte...
is that going to break cephei?
ocean raptor
it will conflict with cephei
so if you try to install it cephei will be prompted to remove
lime pivot
alright well that’s a dealbreaker I guess 
I just didn’t want to be making a Cephei release just for that
ocean raptor
well no matter what I do, cephei will need an update
cause update-alternatives requires stuff in postinst/prerm
and defaults has to be installed as defaults-cephei
restive ether
L
restive ether
i think it’s hourly
ocean raptor
defaults on elu 👀
restive ether
💀💀
tepid olive
did you really push it without adam saying yes
ocean raptor
did you really push it without adam saying yes
there is nothing more I can do....
It's setup for cephei the best way possible
ocean raptor
what am I supposed to do?
main apex
and `defaults` has to be installed as `defaults-cephei`
Why push something thats gonna break a framework used by so many tweaks. You should wait until after kirb can update Cephei before pushing.
ocean raptor
the only people that are gonna install it are people who understand what it is...
it's not that useful to most people
restive ether
doesn’t really make a difference if he pushes an update or not, not many people are going to install it
ocean raptor
oh no! I misspelled utiltities
restive ether
no no no
primal perch
who tryna play dbd
pearl sail
I guess the issue arises if people start adopting it before kirb can update cephei
restive ether
they won’t
ocean raptor
the amount of people who are gonna adopt it: 0
pearl sail
true
misty cradle
who tryna play dbd
Deezbutzd?
primal perch
restive ether
it’ll be a few people who know what it is
pearl sail
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png
In this community that number is 500+
misty cradle
primal perch
ratio by get some bitches
gentle grove
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards.png
Have you heard of Linux befote
misty cradle
Gn
ocean raptor
any guides or anything that needs defaults is gonna say to install cephei, not "defaults from Procurusus"
primal perch
better OS
restive ether
the way it’s setup is as good as it can be anyways
wooden yarrow
tr
primal perch
just as bad because nothing supports it
but its designed better ig
so it gets a 3/10 over linux's 2/10
restive ether
cameron trying to use his wifi challenge
ocean raptor
In this community that number is 500+
not really... everyone uses the MS APIs, preferenceloader, and some other stuff
primal perch
cameren trying to write any word on ios challenge
ocean raptor
cameron trying to use his wifi challenge
cries in 20 mbps
gentle grove
Have you heard of Linux befote
Replace the "that covers everyone's use cases" with "so that its not made by some developer I don't like", or "that's written in X programming language"
restive ether
hey man
preference loader and app list are probably broke on 15
for the better
hopefully no one fixes them this time
primal perch
preference loader and app list are probably broke on 15
remember the lightweight alternative to prefloader
restive ether
remember the lightweight alternative to prefloader
yeah he got really mad when i made fun of him
ocean raptor
I shall be the 6th person to use it
there are way more than 6 FreeBSD committers
restive ether
then when coolstar did the same things but smaller
restive ether
make it less lines and also worse because it doesn’t work
primal perch
ok based
ocean raptor
there are way more than 6 FreeBSD committers
probably only about 6 are super active
primal perch
wholesome
gentle grove
you cant just make a program and call it lightweight
This is literally what everyone does on Linux
restive ether
did you know creature also made a preference loader replacement
found that out last week
misty cradle
Wholesome
pearl sail
there are way more than 6 FreeBSD committers
Cameron I am gonna start shoving these 
in your eye sockets
gentle grove
make it less lines and also worse because it doesn’t work
Actually this
This is linux
tidal jungle
found that out last week
only last week?
restive ether
yes
tidal jungle
i swore there was a discussion about creatures replacement too 
restive ether
gnu readable code challenge
restive ether
i swore there was a discussion about creatures replacement too <:thonk:356460944...
i probably forgot, that usually happens
tidal jungle
fair
gentle grove
Glue code
misty cradle
Ok GN 6 am is a good sleeping time
pearl sail
gnu readable code challenge
I am sorry I got lost reading the comments before the actual code base
restive ether
;;;
ocean raptor
gnu readable code challenge
spaces between function name and arguments moment
primal perch
we on that opengl grindset
restive ether
we on that opengl grindset
the only game macos can run
primal perch
true lmfao
primal perch
yeah just like
implement an open standard ong
idc if they use metal just fucking write gl 4.6 and vulkan drivers
ocean raptor
the only game macos can run
I've played powder toy on macOS before, it got super hot though
ocean raptor
yes, they are also all older than my dad, so
primal perch
idc if they use metal just fucking write gl 4.6 and vulkan drivers
a company like apple could have that driver done in a month
but nah theyre just gonna be that way
hardy glen
we on that opengl grindset
Are you using learnopengl.com?
primal perch
yeah
primal perch
havent really used it since the hello world trignel but im just tryna make some squares and shit now
hardy glen
Lmao
primal perch
ironically trying to use vulkan gave me motivation to continue
vulkan is so bad it makes gl look good
900 lines of setup 💀
hardy glen
Yea i never fucked with vulkan ever. Only gl
Occasionally i get motivated to learn and spend time to make a simple 2d game engine then realize i got college
primal perch
it be like that
gentle grove
Bobagame???
primal perch
these are all using the same shader so im doing something right i guess
hardy glen
I’ve been getting into emulation though. I just finished my chip8 and i am about to work on the 6052
restive ether
a company like apple could have that driver done in a month
they’d be better than any AMD driver too
restive ether
AMD users literally can’t accept the fact the chipsets are unusable because of the drivers
primal perch
honestly
restive ether
seen people have their computer grind to a halt until it panics
primal perch
int main() {
printf("driver isnt done yet\n");
return 0;
}```I haven’t done space invaders yet. I’ve heard thats a good starter
hardy glen
Chip8>space invaders>nes>gameboy
primal perch
gameboy is also fun
hardy glen
Thats what i usually hear
primal perch
you could go for either of those right after chip8 its what i did
restive ether
when is someone going to make a good PS2 emulator
hardy glen
Yea chip8 helped me learn a lot
primal perch
AMD users literally can’t accept the fact the chipsets are unusable because of t...
amd chipset try not to disconnect usb for 5 seconds challenge
restive ether
checkra1n users trying to jailbreak their phone then they realize they have zen
primal perch
gpu try not to black screen or artifact for 5 minutes challenge
hardy glen
I am pretty sure you were the one that told me to try out a chip8 months ago and i ended up getting into it but stopped and finally got back into it
primal perch
probably
i do say to use it a lot but it really worked for me
assembly and shit made way more sense after it
also amd try to run an opengl game without stuttering challenge
hardy glen
Yea no it was really helpful and essential. I feel way more confident going into nes
primal perch
yea trying to do nes right out of the gate would be really hard without it or something like it
hardy glen
Just the dxyn instruction was semi hard
primal perch
yeah unfortunately the gpu on the nes is like 10x worse
hardy glen
Need to up my bitwise operation skills up i guess then
primal perch
the cpu will make sure you do that
snippet of that
also it probably has slight bugs but it kinda works so
primal perch
its a worthwile ride tho
dont let it scare you too much it took me a few days for that code
and the cpu is a lot easier
hardy glen
Being able to play a game on your emulator has got to be the funnest shit ever
hardy glen
Yea the research done by the other talented people is so fucking helpful when working on this stuff
primal perch
i would not have been able to do either without it so 💯
hardy glen
Got recommended this video https://youtu.be/8XmxKPJDGU0 by mass1ve months ago and finally i am ready to watch it
primal perch
oh yeah its not actually a 6502 so i think you can like
ignore a bunch of the instructions
dont remember which ones
restive ether
@primal perch hey dog can you make a saturn emulator, thanks bro
primal perch
yeah sure dawg itll be out at 6am
hardy glen
Oh yeah, i might add debugging functionality and step through instructions in chip8 before hopping into nes though
Didn’t shep used to have advanced dev?
primal perch
yeah before i left
ocean raptor
for all 0 people that want this:
primal perch
idc really
primal perch
for all 0 people that want this:
@openbsd users
ocean raptor
@openbsd users
um, tvOS and watchOS are darwin not OpenBSD...
ocean raptor
there is at least one openbsd user
theo
fun fact, OpenBSD started because theo de raadt got kicked out of NetBSD cause he was being mean on the mailing lists
primal perch
pearl sail
Cameron knows BSD lore AHA
primal perch
no
restive ether
for all 0 people that want this:
mf made defaults for the one person with a jailbroken watch
@silver rampart all you dog
silver rampart
👍
restive ether
sad cowboy
pearl sail
ocean raptor
<:sadcowboy:571078858674012190> 👍
no need to be sad
silver rampart
👍
pearl sail
restive ether
mid
ocean raptor
mf made defaults for the one person with a jailbroken watch
ldid segfaults when signing it so it's missing the ents it needs to post a notif on updates
restive ether
L bozo
primal perch
@restive ether amd gpu users 1 week after trying to use it
restive ether
this hurts to watch
primal perch
untold river
fun fact, OpenBSD started because theo de raadt got kicked out of NetBSD cause h...
there's a whole fortune(6) list of theo insults
gaunt dew
what do I do when I get the error in theos that XYZ is only available in iOS 13.0 or newer? do I have to add a specifier to my makefile that it's only for ios 13 or newer???
grim sparrow
what do I do when I get the error in theos that XYZ is only available in iOS 13....
What
gaunt dew
error: 'statusBarManager' is only available on iOS 13.0 or newer [-Werror,-Wunguarded-availability-new]
grim sparrow
Well yeah you need to put in your makefile ur target
It should be at the top
The top should be something like TARGET = iphone:latest:7.0 or something
Set it to 13.0
gaunt dew
ah thansk
woeful scaffold
Nano supremacy
vivid dew
hello developers.
primal perch
hello developers.
hello canadian developer.
harsh needle
hello canadian developer.
fake country
tepid olive
hello canadian developer.
hi i’m canadian french developer
harsh needle
can somebody give me an example on interposing objc_msgsend? as soon as i do it ill get linker errors
actually linking fine, but the app itself wont open as soon as i insert the library
feral heath
I’m trying to use the windows 10 Theos method (installing Ubuntu app) and I can’t downgrade the sdk
To 9.2
Idk if it means anything but whenever I try to create a tweak it says permission denied
So 
Using “nic”
feral heath
Idk if it means anything but whenever I try to create a tweak it says permission...
I get past the bundle Id bit and press enter then it says permission denied
I am following this
indigo peak
@feral heath follow this https://theos.dev/docs/installation-linux
tepid olive
LMFAO
strong heath
W
snow python
He has always responded when I email him
oblique orbit
What a boss 
hasty ruin
He has always responded when I email him
yeah, he’s a super nice guy from my experiences too
hasty ruin
What was this?
indigo peak
a tweak that stole a bunch of code, including my own
hasty ruin
👍👍👍
indigo peak
@hasty ruin and it also had a paywall on top of it
hasty ruin
Yeah I found your previous messages about it
next wadi
<@!883412614699446283> and it also had a paywall on top of it
and i voodoo'd that shit ‼️
hardy glen
They really took down my favorite tweak from bb repo 
tepid olive
ratio
ocean raptor
I'm gonna submit it to Pluto
grim sparrow
I'm gonna submit ur fucking mother to Pluto
indigo peak
im gonna slingshot @next wadi to pluto
tepid olive
who are u
pearl sail
Damn I fucked you then?!?!?
next wadi
im gonna slingshot <@!811496735406293062> to pluto
slingshot this ratio
brittle ravine
hey, I'm fighting arm64e over here, would need some help
MSFindSymbol crashes even though I use https://gist.github.com/summertriangle-dev/6b0449ce561f756ac82a4bc3de7af30a
grim sparrow
can you potentially show some code
brittle ravine
init(funcToHook = MSFindSymbol(NULL, "-[ClassToHook functionWithArg1:arg2:]"));
%hookf(id, funcToHook, id arg1, id arg2) {
return %orig;
}
it doesn’t matter if I use the calls from the ptrauth helper header above before MSFindSymbol
oblique orbit
You'll need to provide the actual exported symbol (mangled name of that function). Right now you're providing what you'd see in code
From MSFindSymbols's documentation (http://www.cydiasubstrate.com/api/c/MSFindSymbol/):
name: Name of a raw image symbol to search for. This is not a high-level symbol as used by dlopen: it might require prefixed underscores or other platform-specific mangling.
So it won't do the mangling for you
brittle ravine
Hm, but would doing so make it work specifically for arm64e or just in general? Because it works in arm64
oblique orbit
Well what does init() do?
brittle ravine
It initializes the %hookf
I tried using the functions in https://gist.github.com/summertriangle-dev/6b0449ce561f756ac82a4bc3de7af30a
Are you saying it’ll work by switching to MSHookFunction?
shrewd pebble
Sorry if this doesn’t belong here but I’m trying to find the best way to learn iOS development and eventually tweak development. I currently know Java and android development. Could someone point me in the right direction?
brittle ravine
In that case I’ve done what you’ve suggested and it doesn’t work 
indigo peak
Sorry if this doesn’t belong here but I’m trying to find the best way to learn i...
read the pins: #development message
brittle ravine
But it works for arm64 so stripped or not shouldn’t matter, no?
I agree, but I’ve never gotten the ptrauth calls to succeed
grim sparrow
Well what does init() do?
innit()
brittle ravine
ah, that could be it
next wadi
```
"""remove all your teeth"""
def innit():
...
```
The DocString Goes In The Function .
indigo peak
i do not care
indigo peak
kys
vivid dew
glacial matrix
Is this real usage?
void *symbol = MSFindSymbol(NULL, "-[ClassToHook functionWithArg1:arg2:]");
Yes, with other names
yep, and it works 😛
having trouble getting it to find the MSHookFunction though, it complains about the types 🤔
that seems to have worked, alright, now I'll just have to turn on the device again haha
nah, as in it works with using that string on arm64
brittle ravine
Well, I got bamboozled. The app targeted changed some things a while back which broke my code, and now when I added the hookf call it worked on arm64, but it turns out that it was the old code starting to work again. I'm guessing the app developers reverted something?
Anyway, the syntax with the string to MSFindSymbol is valid (I use that elsewhere), but in this case MSFindSymbol returns a nullptr. Sorry to waste your time @grave sparrow 😅
But now I'm curious
why it doesn't find it
cause the method exists in objc, but is called from Swift
it should work, and it would be a better solution than what now suddenly works again
objc
it's inherits from NSObject
that's a good idea
hm, the disassembler find that method
no but the symbol is nullptr on arm64 too
I'm no Swift-hooking guru, but wouldn't hooking a symbol name of a objc method still work even though it is called from Swift?
woeful scaffold
Given the choice, is a beast windows pc (or Linux VM) or an old Mac better for tweak development as a noob
brittle ravine
isn't that how the bridge works
brittle ravine
Given the choice, is a beast windows pc (or Linux VM) or an old Mac better for t...
I'm still using my old MBP from 2012 instead of some 2019 Windows
tardy narwhal
Given the choice, is a beast windows pc (or Linux VM) or an old Mac better for t...
even a pi suffices for getting into coding
woeful scaffold
Should’ve specified tweak development
tardy narwhal
no you don't want that just yet
woeful scaffold
I have past programming experience
tardy narwhal
on god please do it for the meme
woeful scaffold
on god please do it for the meme
Tweak dev with 512MB ram
hardy glen
making tweaks on my pi
It will be useful for you since at school you can just have your pi in your keyring
woeful scaffold
Let’s go
vivid dew
i don’t think anyone should develop tweaks
indigo peak
i dont even know if my sd card has enough storage
woeful scaffold
Actually 2 is 1GB ram right
hardy glen
512
indigo peak
exampe
tardy narwhal
have you seen the lakers recently triangle
restive ether
i don’t think anyone should develop tweaks
you wrote nfr tweak dev guide
tardy narwhal
horrible plays
woeful scaffold
Why did that get deleted
brittle ravine
I see, so it would have to be coded in objc, not just inherit an NSObject
vivid dew
nothing you say makes sense to anyone
hardy glen
You would have to say @objc class no?
Nvm
@objc class Helper : NSObject {``` this how i specify my swift helper classand throw @objc in front of the methods i am going to use in objc
woeful scaffold
Given the choice, is a beast windows pc (or Linux VM) or an old Mac better for t...
So there’s no real answer to this?
hardy glen
Given the choice, is a beast windows pc (or Linux VM) or an old Mac better for t...
i would say beast pc with mac vm
thats the real answer
glacial matrix
Anything that you can install Theos on should be fine
That includes raspi and google Cloud Shell
woeful scaffold
Anything that you can install Theos on should be fine
Raspberry pi zero 2
hardy glen
i feel like tweak dev is easier on mac. but i use llinux myself
woeful scaffold
hardy glen
i am going to buy a z2 and do tweak dev on it
glacial matrix
(I have to actually try the raspi myself)
hardy glen
i was going to buy one yesterday
woeful scaffold
The rpi4 is surprisingly powerful
native dune
Raspberry pi zero 2
that’s a thing?
hardy glen
i am too broke to get the pi4
oblique orbit
Worst case you can remote compile on device ¯_(ツ)_/¯
woeful scaffold
Honestly no doubt in my mind it would make for a decent dev machine
glacial matrix
Only have a rpi3 
woeful scaffold
that’s a thing?
Yeah, came out last year
hardy glen
that’s a thing?
yea it has a new cpu
woeful scaffold
Much more powerful
tardy narwhal
Worst case you can remote compile on device ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
you can also just github actions for that use case lmao
woeful scaffold
Wish it had more ram tho
glacial matrix
Wish it had more ram tho
Just download more
hardy glen
except i would still use idevicesyslog instead of console.app
woeful scaffold
you can also just github actions for that use case lmao
Funny story. There’s this kid who’s by far a better dev than me, and the only computer he has is a school laptop, so the only way he compiles is through GitHub actions
What a gigachad
glacial matrix
Can one idevicesyslog and filter out processes completely? (Even log statements without the data prefix?)
tardy narwhal
What a gigachad
isn't that stupid considering you can just install the necessary toolchains?
woeful scaffold
isn't that stupid considering you can just install the necessary toolchains?
School laptop, no admin.
Can’t install a compiler
tardy narwhal
windows has like 5-10 new zero days every week
hardy glen
Can one idevicesyslog and filter out processes completely? (Even log statements ...
i am not sure, i usually just use the -m flag
glacial matrix
I have a filter in console.app to remove a huge list because I want to remove those I know are not related but I’m unsure of all of those that are
Excellent
hardy glen
one of the many issues i had with console.app was it being unresponsive after some time, you have to restart. after like 500k+ logs
glacial matrix
Can’t install a compiler
Just use google cloud services, start an empty project and open its shell. You get a linux system for free where you can install theos
woeful scaffold
Just use google cloud services, start an empty project and open its shell. You g...
Seems weird how google just gives you a free cloud vm
What’s the catch
hardy glen
i literally left idevicesyslog open all night and came back and it still worked lmao
glacial matrix
It deletes itself if you don’t use it for a couple months
oblique orbit
On Linux too my idevicesyslog hangs after a while
woeful scaffold
It deletes itself if you don’t use it for a couple months
Can you take backups
oblique orbit
I prefer to just SSH and use oslog there
woeful scaffold
mine doesn't wtf
Linux in a nutshell
glacial matrix
Can you take backups
And it’s a tiny vm, so don’t expect to run crysis on it, but it works
I don’t know all that’s possible or not , I just tried installing theos, compiled a project and downloaded the deb
woeful scaffold
And it’s a tiny vm, so don’t expect to run crysis on it, but it works
I mean he does have vscode on his laptop, just no compilers. If it can compile some c code it should work
glacial matrix
Runs clang just fine
glacial matrix
If he’s smart, he might be able to connect vscode to it somehow
Just tell him “it’s not possible” and he’ll have it done the next day
woeful scaffold
Just tell him “it’s not possible” and he’ll have it done the next day <:troll:79...
Currently he’s automated GitHub actions with vscode
glacial matrix
Don’t they run on commit pushes?
woeful scaffold
Yeah, so he makes like 300 commits an hour
glacial matrix
Ohno
woeful scaffold
I do the same, but I have the decency to at least make sure it compiles with less than 5 errors
We are not the same
hardy glen
NSArray* args = [[NSClassFromString(@"NSProcessInfo") processInfo] arguments];
if(args.count != 0)
{
NSString *executablePath = args[0];
if (executablePath)
{
BOOL isApplication = [executablePath containsString:@"/Application"];
/* BOOL isSpringboard = [processName isEqualToString:@"SpringBoard"]; */
if(isApplication){
%init(Application);
``` is this the best way to avoid initializing hooks in processes you might not want.that doesn’t even work properly on modern ios without using a fork
oblique orbit
Works fine for me 
hardy glen
lmao i think theres a tweak that has a window on top of springboard that shows you your syslog
forgot the name of it
glacial matrix
```objc
NSArray* args = [[NSClassFromString(@"NSProcessInfo") processInfo] arg...
You can use argc, argv, env from the main executable in the %ctor
As long as you know how to use each of them
restive ether
Works fine for me <:ObiVisibleConfusion:773738569532702730>
oblique orbit
https://github.com/dlevi309/oslog
Which version of iOS are you on?
hardy glen
You can use argc, argv, env from the main executable in the %ctor
nice, i did not know that
vivid dew
daniel leviathan 309
untold river
W
ocean raptor
https://github.com/dlevi309/oslog
I made him tag a release for me and didn't even add it to proc
restive ether
man you suck
pearl sail
@ocean raptor stop fucking lacking bruh
pearl sail
contribute to procursus
I have no time anymore
tepid olive
don’t care
ocean raptor
I have no time anymore
you have no time, I have no motivation
restive ether
(not lying)
ocean raptor
i’m going to contribute to procursus
don't care, it'll be a solid year before I get around to reviewing it anyways
vivid dew
if only hayden didn’t abandon procursus for a career at apple (retail)
pearl sail
don't care, it'll be a solid year before I get around to reviewing it anyways
Fix my openssh pr
ocean raptor
if only hayden didn’t abandon procursus for a career at apple (retail)
if only I had motivation and the other maintainers would actively review and merge PRs
pearl sail
People have lives
ocean raptor
I know
pearl sail
It is fine
ocean raptor
People have lives
surprisingly I have a life too, which is why there are 93 open PRs
ocean raptor
surprisingly I have a life too, which is why there are 93 open PRs
sbingner be like "I have so much free time, there are 0 open elu PRs"
untold river
sbingner be like "I have so much free time, there are 0 open elu PRs"
just email the diff bro
not deep
restive ether
cameron when he sends the diff to saurik and he says no you said mean things on twitter one time
ocean raptor
cameron when he sends the diff to saurik and he says no you said mean things on ...
I said the mean thing like 10 minutes before sending the diff though 
restive ether
trolled
pearl sail
surprisingly I have a life too, which is why there are 93 open PRs
I know hence why I don’t keep asking for 10 or 15 of those PRs to merge
ocean raptor
I just merged a PR
restive ether
back to the cave you go
ocean raptor
I know hence why I don’t keep asking for 10 or 15 of those PRs to merge
well I've also been in my bed literally all day
I've been watching JoJo all day
untold river
weebs
ocean raptor
base files on procursus
NO (cause I'm lazy)
and I don't want to add a new strapproject
grim sparrow
I have no idea
oblique orbit
Wouldn't that just be some obfuscated function? Do you have any context for it?
indigo peak
its apparently a normal react function
thats native to the lang
but
i cant find it from google
var id = Object.keys(modules).map(function (i) { return Number(i); }).find(function (i) {
return __r(i) && filter(__r(i));
});
Where is that from?
indigo peak
its private
vivid dew
it's __r
woeful scaffold
React in a nutshell
primal perch
__r
vivid dew
__r
oblique orbit
Use this https://lelinhtinh.github.io/de4js/ with the dumped file
It'll make it easier to read
ocean raptor
@indigo peak it's require
indigo peak
should I make a YouTube series on tweak development
like how to make tweaks and shit
indigo peak
if you want
I never want to do anything
Which is why I was asking here
Alternatively, should I livestream me making tweaks
So people can read code and ask questions and shit
deadass
how not to install theos
sudo apt-get install theos
indigo peak
frfr
I was gonna make my own theos installer
But like
Actually good
But I have up
indigo peak
Exactly
Some white names didn’t know how to copy and paste commands
So I was like
Why not
primal perch
if they need to be spoonfed installing theos god help them with objc
untold river
Some white names didn’t know how to copy and paste commands
so you're gonna have them curl to bash?
hardy glen
I need to learn
indigo peak
if they need to be spoonfed installing theos god help them with objc
Legit true
untold river
primal perch
like literally the theos install wiki is really good
hardy glen
@indigo peak livestream i need tutorials
primal perch
i dont think it could be any easier
woeful scaffold
should I make a YouTube series on tweak development
Do it
So I can actually get around to learning tweak development
woeful scaffold
Instead of saying I’ll do it later
indigo peak
See this is where the population divides
People who don’t know how to dev tweaks want the tutorials
People who do know how to tweaks don’t want the tutorials
woeful scaffold
See this is where the population divides
People who don’t know how to dev tweaks...
Here’s the thing
woeful scaffold
People who already know how to do thing
primal perch
woeful scaffold
Don’t want to learn to do thing again
indigo peak
Jokes on you if you think any of us actually know objc
We all follow the principle of the infinite monkey theorem
primal perch
just do them if you want bro nobody who already knows tweak dev is going to be disenfranchised by the tutorials
but it may help a lot of people
woeful scaffold
I hate objc! I hate objc!
Come out, we have iOS support!
hardy glen
Yea pls do them, i actually need to learn
indigo peak
you see, I tried, I installed Ubuntu 18 for the tweak dev, so I have a new install
primal perch
@twilit jungle might need them tho
indigo peak
And it was erroring
primal perch
indigo peak
While installing the dependencies
If I had access to a Mac I would do a video for each platform
Ain’t no way in hell I’m installing theos on a shitty vm
primal perch
whats your cpu and gpu
indigo peak
@strong heath and @solemn quiver know how well that went
indigo peak
whats your cpu and gpu
ryzen 5 3200 and Radeon RX 570
solemn quiver
primal perch
probably a skill issue then
indigo peak
wtf pink doregon
hardy glen
Opencore guide is literally one of the best guides
indigo peak
Opencore guide is literally one of the best guides
I don’t know how to read
- even if I did, it’s a lot to read
indigo peak
on god
indigo peak
Im gonna steal a pc from my moms job and install one on there
indigo peak
It’s an intel cpu
hardy glen
I don’t know how to read
You know this is very bad and you shouldn’t do this. But find a config that someone with the same specs uses
strong heath
same
hardy glen
And compare your config
tepid olive
you see, I tried, I installed Ubuntu 18 for the tweak dev, so I have a new insta...
18
outdated as shit
use at least 20.04 LTS or even latest
vivid dew
ubuntu 16.04 the last good version
tepid olive
theos works fine on 21.10 for me
hardy glen
its not very bad at all
Yea but most peoples configs suck on github.
strong heath
general channel earlier was unbearable
primal perch
i cant when linux users
primal perch
hardy glen
Intel cpu and integrated graphics are so easy
strong heath
it was some kid arguing about how linux is better than windows and had a strawman argument about game support
it was pain
indigo peak
So The video would be as realistic as possible
hardy glen
linux is better
strong heath
debatable
primal perch
for bugs yea
strong heath
it doesnt play the games i want
hardy glen
Arch user here linux is better
indigo peak
for bugs yea
that’s my tweaks
untold river
debian sid is nicer tbh
strong heath
i will most likely not use linux until it gets widely adopted
which wont be for a long time
hardy glen
You know whats weird i have m1 i barely touch that shit. I use my intel i3 arch install all the time
strong heath
strong heath
Arch user here linux is better
vivid dew
i install arch using a preinstalled generic rootfs image
glacial matrix
I was gonna make my own theos installer
I will add code to theos to delete the host file system if it was installed with an installer script
restive ether
I will add code to theos to delete the host file system if it was installed with...
there’s like 3 on packix so can you hurry up with this
they all do it wrong too so
glacial matrix
Ohno
untold river
you cant just make a program and call it lightweight
minimal 🚀, blazing-fast 🚀 , customizable 🚀 , memory safe 🚀 program written in Rust 🚀
strong heath
written on deez nuts
glacial matrix
you cant just make a program and call it lightweight
This is the most lightweight repository https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode
glacial matrix
https://github.com/kelseyhightower/nocode/pull/4760
What about it?
indigo peak
do comments count as code
untold river
do markdown count as code
native dune
html
hardy glen
Actual html is markup, we’re talking about down
Why tf does the pasteboardchangednotification get posted twice for no reason
vivid dew
primal perch
good afternoon
hardy glen
Good morning
tepid olive
Actual html is markup, we’re talking about down <:troll:794397046706667530>
down
le troll
untold river
good afternoon
good morning
pliant fossil
ratio
wicked summit
gm
tepid olive
gm
oblique orbit
good time of day
ocean raptor
ok
hardy glen
I honestly think i might be the best designer here
untold river
that's a wide clip
hardy glen
I just wanted to get rid of the disgusting font
I need to find a good name and then design an icon and then actually work on the UI instead of just functionality
I have a list of stuff i need to accomplish and then finally apply to chariz
faint lionBOT
Hey @tepid olive, have a look at this!
lime pivot
used 34 times lol
lime pivot
<@!239564780271173642>, have a look at this funny meme! LOL!
sick meme bro
grim sparrow
lime pivot
primal perch
sick meme bro
indigo peak
@tepid olive happy birthday big man
tepid olive
ty
primal perch
@tepid olive happy birthday big man
untold river
indigo peak
vivid dew
https://share.beerpsi.me/yyzrs7ec.png
how do i get pronouns on my discord
tepid olive
lime pivot
you don't
lime pivot
best case you might find it posted on http://openradar.me
but that relies on the dev copy pasting it there
and they still need to update it when states change and whatever
ocean raptor
it's not 
lime pivot
yeah it's not likely sadly
idea is radars are private because that's really Apple's internal task tracking system, they just expose a tiny bit of it for us to create tasks for them to triage and send to whoever the appropriate person is
and they try to treat any external submissions as confidential (especially now that Feedback Assistant auto attaches a sysdiagnose with all your system logs, all nearby SSIDs that creates a pretty good indication of your location, and my favorite, your entire iCloud Drive for some reason)
tepid olive
just strip attachments from public view
lime pivot
if only it were that simple
ocean raptor
@indigo peak smh my head https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/s6ndxz/help_i_have_downloaded_gameseagull_on_sileo_and/
graceful gate
hardy glen
5 hours
oblique orbit
Usually it'll get faster
indigo peak
twilit jungle
ionic cobalt
Hey, if I want to patch an IPA for a jailed phone using IPAPatch (https://github.com/Naituw/IPAPatch)
What dylibs am I required to put in which directory? I assume I somehow need to put libhooker somewhere but idk where
App currently crashes on startup when patching all these 4 dylibs:
NoYTAds
libblackjack
llibhooker
libsubstitute
libsubstrate
grim sparrow
I like to fuck
grim sparrow
deez
it does
but it has to be built specially
one of its special things is how well it works jailed
restive ether
when i jailbreak i patch out control files so i can use substrate, substitute and libhooker all at once
ionic cobalt
they dont i wrote them myself
grim sparrow
then just use theosjailed
ionic cobalt
tbh I have no idea what I am doing, but I took the idea from here: https://github.com/EamonTracey/iPatch/tree/main/iPatch/Libs
restive ether
well that’s gotta violate a license
ionic cobalt
then just use theosjailed
so it does not work with IPAPatch?
grim sparrow
well that’s gotta violate a license
it does
grim sparrow
so it does not work with IPAPatch?
I have no idea
I don't even know if it works anymore
I just know for something like this its probably better
ionic cobalt
can I install theos-jailed simultaneously to theos?
grim sparrow
can I install theos-jailed simultaneously to theos?
yes
ionic cobalt
can I install theos-jailed simultaneously to theos?
nvm, it requires theos to be installed lol
I am currently installing the ipa from theos-jailed...lets hope it works
misty cradle
It did not work
ionic cobalt
it worked
lmao
only downside: I somehow cant fetch youtube channels after login but idc tbh
at least I have no ads and background playback
thanks for the quick help yall, appreciate it
grim sparrow
@wicked summit if ur gonna leave secretshot open source at least put in the readme that it’s a perfect example of what not to do
restive ether
lmao
twilit jungle
Like 90% of other open source tweaks
ocean raptor
Like 90% of other open source tweaks
Except quickactions
primal perch
i think it’s already in the 90% bro
twilit jungle
Okay 91%
native dune
<@!163446186768990208> if ur gonna leave secretshot open source at least put in ...
mf says objc for deprecation because they don’t know what a hook is
faint timber
hooks aren't a native obj-c thing <:uhh:696449618539708548>
they are if you count objc interposing
faint timber
F
oblique orbit
Even MS is trying to push you away from that mail client
faint timber
why would you use something than firefox or safari
tepid olive
Has anyone figured out a stable taurine/fugu method
vivid dew
i'm running the semi-private test build right now
it's pretty stable so dm me if you want the ipa
tepid olive
subtle grail
trill
warped hawk
Hi, I'm trying to understand what exactly comprises a .ipa downloaded from the app store, how is it compressed (lzfse?), etc. . Is there any way to decrypt iOS 15 .ipa files? Or failing that, is their structure documented anywhere?
ocean raptor
It's a zip
indigo peak
so theres a .app folder
and in that contains all the resources the app needs to run
like the executable, images etc
and then its put into a folder called Payload
and then that folder is put into another folder
and that folder is zipped
and the .zip is renamed to .ipa
warped hawk
I know what .ipa files are comprised of in general, but I'm wondering specifically about the actual encrypted .ipas that are downloaded from the App Store. Do they use LZFSE or zip (deflate)? Why, if it's LZFSE, do I see a 600kb larger size of the encrypted .ipa than I do when I get the decrypted version with Frida and compress it with LZFSE myself?
indigo peak
true
warped hawk
The encryption here in iOS 15 is post-compression, as we can see with file MyApp.ipa -> OpenPGP public key (although Apple did use to compress post-encryption back in the day)
untold river
I know what .ipa files are comprised of in general, but I'm wondering specifical...
you can try reading the magic bytes
lzfse should always start with the bytes 62 76 78 32
primal perch
wrong
indigo peak
wtf did I do to you
vivid dew
thin valley
An invite
restive ether
dumbass furry
gentle grove
In so confused
I sent a YouTube link
let me try again
therr
Idk what happened the first time
gentle grove
dumbass furry
fr
untold river
https://youtube.com/shorts/WsgeYUgcxzI?feature=share
it's a tuple like this
True, True, (True == (True, True, True))
I know
oblique orbit
indigo peak
fr
untold river
what the hell is a walrus operator
i have never seen or used one in my entire life coding python
silver rampart
@hardy glen since iirc you use this, thoughts on a new table rendering style i'm working on?
indigo peak
new thing in 3.8
hardy glen
<@!827521509207310336> since iirc you use this, thoughts on a new table renderin...
I love it, i use it regularly except if i need to look at swift
I like that style
silver rampart
I love it, i use it regularly except if i need to look at swift
WIP
swift decoding sucks
hardy glen
I bet, i mostly use dsdump for swift. It works amazing
silver rampart
<@!827521509207310336> since iirc you use this, thoughts on a new table renderin...
also refactored the whole thing to make it possible to have togglable borders, so it now no longer freezes if you try to render something on a super narrow terminal, and can handle drawing in smaller spaces
table rendering has eaten too many hours of my life
ocean raptor
do github actions runners have gh installed automatically?
untold river
do github actions runners have `gh` installed automatically?
oh so you're trying to download artifacts to a gh runner?
ocean raptor
yes...
untold river
is https://github.com/actions/download-artifact not good enough
silver rampart
^ that works
hardy glen
i also love how i can handle verbosity in dsdump
ocean raptor
is <https://github.com/actions/download-artifact> not good enough
from a different repo
in order to sign the watchos bins I build in ProcursusTeam/defaults I need the latest build of ProcursusTeam/ldid
untold river
from a different repo
oh
untold river
and yes there's github cli installed on runners
silver rampart
just clone the ldid repo and build it in your workflow