development

[indigo peak]

but i ended up leaving

[lime pivot]

good find

[indigo peak]

for whatever reason

[tacit spade]

😄

[lime pivot]

might it be BECAUSE YOU MFS DON'T SAY ANYTHING

[tacit spade]

it's actually implemented in TVMLKit

[lime pivot]

4000 members and like 3 of them speak

[tacit spade]

which is probably why it looks so nice

tvOS: effort 100, popularity 30

[grim sparrow]

Now the most expensive thing I’ve bought all year and probably will stay that way

[indigo peak]

most expensive thing i bought this year was the hoodie

30 dollars

[lime pivot]

good thing we're all pretending the virus doesn't exist any more! if we just ignore the virus it'll know it's not welcome, why didn't we just try that in the first place

[silver rampart]

bought a 144hz monitor bc jamie made me

[tacit spade]

i just thought to myself "imagine if you could have positive transactions" and then realized i'd invented transactions

god help me

[lime pivot]

congratulations

[grim sparrow]

Oh shit that’s clever

[indigo peak]

@silver rampart my dad got me a second monitor for christmas, same one as my main, but they updated the model, so now my second monitor is 165 hz and my main is still 144

stonks

[tacit spade]

i was gonna play TLoU but made a demo instead

why are you this way ethan

uhmmmm

[silver rampart]

macos breaking the entirety of gaming forces u to be productive or just boot into windows

[tacit spade]

Unfortunately i sometimes use development to procrastinate

[silver rampart]

mood

[tacit spade]

because adhd is satan

[untold river]

macos forces me to do some weird ass hacks for my games to work

[tacit spade]

m1 moment

[silver rampart]

hey they broke it on x86 too dont forget

[lime pivot]

I bought a 144hz 4K monitor, my $1200 M1 Mac mini can output full resolution and refresh rate while my $4000 Intel MacBook Pro 16" is like "dawg you should be grateful you can even get 4K output from me at all, you're not getting any better than 60Hz"

[tacit spade]

actually, parallels m1 gaming? not bad

[nimble parcel]

“forces u to be productive” is literally the most positive way to spin it they should pay you for this shit

[lime pivot]

^^^

now that is spin

[nimble parcel]

probably more lucrative than tweak development anyway

[tacit spade]

Nah. "Empowers you to be productive."

[lime pivot]

unfortunately, discord still exists on macos

[grim sparrow]

lol

[untold river]

unfortunately, it's also getting a native client

[nimble parcel]

fortunately, it’s unbearably slow on arm

[tacit spade]

my parents remind me of this every day

[lime pivot]

shame

[untold river]

doesnt canary have native arm already

[grim sparrow]

Wholesome contributor

[silver rampart]

wait do they

[untold river]

[silver rampart]

for windows

[tacit spade]

my dog is trying to get my attention

[silver rampart]

as well

[untold river]

dont think so

[silver rampart]

damnit

[tacit spade]

hes like "why is the laptop sitting where i should be"

[lime pivot]

it's in stable now

[untold river]

barely anyone cares about windows on arm

[wooden yarrow]

canary is fast on m1 pro

💀

[untold river]

sorry to break it to you

[lime pivot]

sup

[silver rampart]

its literally already in electron upstream

[lime pivot]

haven't seen you around in a while

[nimble parcel]

damnit

[wooden yarrow]

hello

[tacit spade]

m1 macbooks are the first real laptops because they dont burn your lap

[wooden yarrow]

yea i've been talking on other servers, still around

[tacit spade]

i say that as someone who keeps two vms in the background

"productivity"

not me learning qml to customize ssdm to avoid doing my homework

[nimble parcel]

congrats on getting your theos PR upstreamed that’s more progress than i made all of last year

[lime pivot]

😬

[grim sparrow]

I think I have 3 pr’s in Theos now?

All of them being one liners

[indigo peak]

i was gonna pr a homescreen widget template

but that ended up being too hard

[lime pivot]

my computer literally is a vm host now lmao

[tacit spade]

lmao

i finally got a vps

[grim sparrow]

There is actually a few templates I want to do

[lime pivot]

I love the naive way it tries to indicate CPU core usage by multiplying your clock speed by the core count

[tacit spade]

now im a real developer

[indigo peak]

gimme

[indigo peak]

what are they

[nimble parcel]

tbf it’s entirely mostly on me for doing barely anything with orion for months

[tacit spade]

when does the depression start

[grim sparrow]

Xcode iOS Command Line Tool
Xcode iOS App
Xcode iOS Swift Launch Service

[indigo peak]

i saw xcode and gave up

nvm

[grim sparrow]

lmfao

[tacit spade]

im crying already

[lime pivot]

✋ 3.8 GHz
👉 45.5 GHz

[grim sparrow]

Having swift launchd services for iOS In Xcode is so helpful

[wicked summit]

gm

[untold river]

Xcode iOS Command Line Tool
Xcode iOS App
Xcode~~ iOS Swift Launch Service~~

[grim sparrow]

You can just press build and it deploys on device

[tacit spade]

i am speed

[grim sparrow]

Why

[lime pivot]

honestly though my i9 MacBook Pro has kinda become a glorified thin client to my 3900X machine lmao

the laptop takes like 4 seconds to autorestart the Chariz server when I make a change, the desktop takes something insane like 500ms

by the time I tab over to the browser to reload it's already ready to go

[silver rampart]

mood

[tacit spade]

i was going to do this but my uni's network has awful ping times due to filtering everything through opendns

because we can't have anyone searching lgbtq topics can we

[wicked summit]

no one said gm back, actual depression

[tacit spade]

why oh why did i pick a christian uni

[indigo peak]

GM YULKY

ITS 12:21 AM

[wicked summit]

gm

[indigo peak]

ITS NOT MORNING

[tacit spade]

gm yulky

[wicked summit]

gm

[silver rampart]

why would you do this to yourself

[indigo peak]

@ocean raptor

[lime pivot]

now I just need to find a wild af PCIe splitter so I can have dual graphics cards on my ITX board, one for my dev VM, another for everything else

[tacit spade]

i did it when i was a christian

[indigo peak]

happy now?

[silver rampart]

even when i was idk if i would've gone that far

[indigo peak]

i really am catching them all

[lime pivot]

🙌 well played

[tacit spade]

and then deconverted immediately after the deadlines

[untold river]

if heads, pay hayden $50

[silver rampart]

a lot of those places have issueeees

[tacit spade]

like literally days

[indigo peak]

this is just like funny jabs i can make at people

[lime pivot]

you're good at this lmao

[indigo peak]

i try

[tacit spade]

i just gotta make it onto this list and then i will have truly made it

[lime pivot]

bro

[wicked summit]

Yulky.heic

[lime pivot]

@indigo peak

wtf

[indigo peak]

wtf what

[lime pivot]

you got Cameron and Cameren confused

you terrible person

[indigo peak]

yeahhh

i know

[untold river]

lmao

[indigo peak]

i was hoping no one wuld notice

i just noticed

[silver rampart]

my printer is busted, so later this week, i'll head down town to a print shop and see if i can get them all printed on cardstock

or at least mine

[lime pivot]

well-known procursus maintainer, Cameron Katri

[indigo peak]

shhhh

[grim sparrow]

@lime pivot can I commit some Xcode based templates to Theos?

[untold river]

that some full hd shit

[lime pivot]

based

idk, I'm iffy about that

[tacit spade]

my cs teacher told me once that he noticed my file names for my papers are camel cased, true story

[lime pivot]

I don't want to encourage it

[wicked summit]

guys I was just randomly thinking, the guy who runs chariz is probably a nerd 🤣🤣

[tacit spade]

i hadnt even noticed myself

[indigo peak]

@lime pivot @ocean raptor

all fixed now

[tacit spade]

i think you meant #development

[wicked summit]

true

[lime pivot]

it's there only because it's too much work to make Theos good enough to support stuff Xcode does like storyboard/xib and Assets.car, I guess

[wicked summit]

[tacit spade]

oh my god

[wicked summit]

ok gn guys

[silver rampart]

if tails, your opponents active pokemon is an inferior jailbreak

[untold river]

what does the cameren card say

[tacit spade]

i plugged in my macbook like an hour ago

just noticed it was never plugged into the adapter

[lime pivot]

what tipped you off to that

[grim sparrow]

I actually love the xcodeproj support

[untold river]

real

[wicked summit]

unsure but same

[tacit spade]

@indigo peak if you make one for me i will literally drink water

[indigo peak]

i mean

[silver rampart]

eman

[indigo peak]

drinking water

kinda pog

[silver rampart]

drinking water is bad

everyone who has done it died

[lime pivot]

© Pokemon / Nintendo / Creatures / GAME FREAK / aschefield

[silver rampart]

also there is TWO hydrogen in water!!

[lime pivot]

bro WTF

[silver rampart]

know what else had hydrogen?

[tacit spade]

the hydrogen bomb

[untold river]

the hindenburg

damn

i was late

[silver rampart]

this is literally your body when you drink water

but TWICE as bad because there are TWO hydrogen

[lime pivot]

WATER: not even once

[untold river]

thanks for giving me tips on kms

[silver rampart]

At least drink undistilled hydrogen peroxide, because it has TWICE as much OXYGEN which your CELLS need to LIVE and so it is BETTER

[lime pivot]

https://twitter.com/pentakitty/status/1474628124943872001

Uncanny Vallie (@pentakitty)

Funniest tram ever

Retweets

788

Likes

5825

Twitter · Dec 25, 2021, 6:28 AM

here's a good one from my neck of the woods

Not Even Once reminded me of this

[pearl sail]

Yeah I like meth

[untold river]

meth

[lime pivot]

our police's marketing dept love the "large picture of a cop pointing at you on the side of a tram car" vibe

[pearl sail]

Yeah I have a lot less teeth as well

[silver rampart]

ironically the teeth issue with meth happens bc you get dehydrated if you dont drink water constantly

[untold river]

👮
I dont have better emojis

[pearl sail]

Guess I better drink water a little more

[lime pivot]

hydration homies

[silver rampart]

if you're on meth its one of the more important harm prevention bits lol

[lime pivot]

I did something incredibly unnecessary but also incredibly cool

[tacit spade]

@silver rampart

[lime pivot]

all it does is curve the edges using the iOS continuous corners shape

yes I have no life

yes I have more important things to work on

[tacit spade]

I LOVE YOU

please make an app that does that

[woeful scaffold]

they're pumping dihydrogen monoxide through your pipes

it's in the air

[lime pivot]

yes I did it purely because of the new chariz releases bot so it would show icons exactly how I want them to look rather than just as a roundrect square

[tacit spade]

wtf lmao

[restive ether]

me

[tacit spade]

so the site already does that

[lime pivot]

I mean the way the site does it is honestly even more cursed than this

easier on the server's CPU for sure lmao

feel free to inspect element an icon on chariz.com and see how cursed it is

I even had to do some hax to unbreak it after Safari broke image masks a few months ago

it involves some absolutely cursed css

it's still amazing to me it works at all

meanwhile Apple is sitting off to the corner eating glue I guess cause the app store website just puts a static png of the corners on a white background on top of the app icon

[tacit spade]

imagine the benefits of having websites be native apps
now imagine the downsides

and weep at the great victories and losses of this hypothetical

[untold river]

i mean i dont have to imagine

[indigo peak]

@tacit spade

[tacit spade]

LMAO

[lime pivot]

wtf is that pic lmao

[tacit spade]

ive got more

[indigo peak]

i searched from:ethan... has:image

and that was the first face picture i could find

[untold river]

https://share.beerpsi.me/b8rlxpb7.png my electron app collection

[tacit spade]

the ethan collection™

[lime pivot]

ok thank god, they actually changed it to use CSS masks now

[indigo peak]

the second one is mid attack

[lime pivot]

I have to rant about a grammar crime Discord committed

[indigo peak]

attack loud mouth: your opponents pokemon is now confused

[lime pivot]

"Talk, Chat & Hangout"

[tacit spade]

do it, my mom indoctrinated me

(she teaches english)

[lime pivot]

hangout is a noun, a place you hang out at. "hang out" is the action they were looking for

[tacit spade]

yes

but the harmony is broken if you split it

imo: better word would be "chill"

[lime pivot]

see if it were me I would have gone with "Talk, Chat, and Hang Out"

[silver rampart]

gotta appease the google hangouts refugees

[indigo peak]

[silver rampart]

all 10 of us

[tacit spade]

google hangouts is the only good chat service google has ever made

[faint stag]

harmony is always broken

[lime pivot]

I can't consciously commit a grammar crime even if it flows better that way

[tacit spade]

lmao

[tacit spade]

i will defend every component of hangouts

the sfx

[indigo peak]

You’ve never used a Google doc to talk to your friends then

[tacit spade]

the ui

[tacit spade]

i was homeschooled and unsocialized

[lime pivot]

see Google used it right

[indigo peak]

o

[tacit spade]

why do you think im in this channel

[indigo peak]

fair

[lime pivot]

Hangouts is a place that has multiple places you can hang out

well, was

[untold river]

i remember shitposting in the google docs chat thing

or the comments section

[tacit spade]

that's an exaggeration, really. my parents did a good job. im just a lil peeved about the religious stuff but that'll wear off over time

they think it was the right thing, how do i fault them

[indigo peak]

what developer should I make a card for next

[tacit spade]

hmm

[indigo peak]

it would definitely be tomorrow, Bc I’m tired

[lime pivot]

pown twenty n'd

[indigo peak]

And burnt out from all the ones I’ve made

[tacit spade]

tomorrow is in 15min

[indigo peak]

[lime pivot]

it's ok, we can wait 15 mins bro

[indigo peak]

For me it’s -43 mins ago

[untold river]

also cant forget

+---cursor parking lot---+
|                        |
|                        |
+----------------------- +

[tacit spade]

est best

[indigo peak]

Let me redo

Let’s wait till later today

Est time

[lime pivot]

they removed this didn't they?

[untold river]

yeah they did

[tacit spade]

what????

noooo

[lime pivot]

probably because literally nobody needed this feature and it was only being used for students to put bad words on the teacher's screen

[untold river]

true

[tacit spade]

its okay i suck at group projects

[untold river]

i shitpost in the comments section now

[tacit spade]

my group literally complained about me to my prof

[lime pivot]

yet another killed-off Google chat feature 😔

[untold river]

just highlight and shit post

[untold river]

Google trying to sustain a chat service for 3 years

[lime pivot]

[IMPOSSIBLE]

[tacit spade]

"ethan is flaky. he's good at what he does but he has no time management skills."

i quote

[lime pivot]

this literally applies to every single person in this channel

[untold river]

true...

[tacit spade]

i can't help it that my idea of a final project timeframe is 5 minutes before it's due

[lime pivot]

lmao

you and me both

[tacit spade]

i blame the act for my poor study skills

i never ever ever studied for it

walked out of my last one with a 34/36 (top <1% in the nation)

[indigo peak]

that is a territory i will not cross

[tacit spade]

and no work ethic

[lime pivot]

sure thing mr nfr

[untold river]

hot

[tacit spade]

also, unfortunately, a terrible sign for us education

[lime pivot]

damn well done

[tacit spade]

ty

[indigo peak]

attacks

Jailbreak: flip a coin if heads bootloop, if tails this attack does 40 damage

Slurs: 100 damage

[untold river]

i think our national exams also arent keeping up with students lmao

[tacit spade]

but also like english and reading, i got perfect scores in for 3 years

[untold river]

there's way too many 27+/30 (which is supposed to be the top-end)

[tacit spade]

i got a 35/36 in science my last year

[lime pivot]

sounds like the one time I studied real hard for one exam and totally fucked it up, and studied almost none for the other and passed that with flying colors

[nimble parcel]

i always hated the reading section

[tacit spade]

and my math was behind only because my math skills are slower. as in i ran out of time

[tacit spade]

true story i was already trying to read when i was like 2 or something

i cant remember exactly what my mom said

but it was like way early

i distinctly remember hating math at a young age tho lmao

[grim sparrow]

I still do

[lime pivot]

I hate this app

[untold river]

the reading section is both my favorite and hell section for me

because i just cant concentrate for more than 10 minutes or something

[grim sparrow]

I suck at reading so I don’t bother

[untold river]

but i always seem to pass reading ez

[untold river]

install xcode and wonder where 100GB went

[grim sparrow]

I failed most of mine

[untold river]

F

[tacit spade]

the reading section was one of the few times i got to see relatively progressive reading material in a school context. Unfortunately most homeschooling stuff is conservative, christian and nationalistic. im still (re)learning the basics for science

[grim sparrow]

I got a C in reading and an A* in Maths

[tacit spade]

my mom wrote her own curriculum for grammar and high school literature

[indigo peak]

@grim sparrow are the piracy warnings on repos for sileo hard coded

[tacit spade]

i keep telling her to publish it, it's actually fantastic

[grim sparrow]

No but technically yes

It uses the canister api

[indigo peak]

oh

[grim sparrow]

Which uses a hard coded list

[indigo peak]

ah

[grim sparrow]

If you found something not in the list dm it to me

[tacit spade]

so a tweak could

override

[indigo peak]

i haven't i was just curious

[tacit spade]

oh wait nvm you could do the same with a hardcoded list

[grim sparrow]

Ethan if you have a malicious tweak hiding warnings about piracy repos I think you have bigger problems

[indigo peak]

i can make a tweak that hides the warning

trust

[tacit spade]

i think about how before why

[grim sparrow]

That’s fair

It’s totally possible to but like, why

[indigo peak]

i just dont think

[tacit spade]

a common frustration to my parents

[tacit spade]

me

[grim sparrow]

At what point is a device infected so much that it’s a lost cause

[indigo peak]

when you install birdpoop

@grim sparrow would rewriting gameseagull to use mshookmemory instead of hooks technically be more stable

[grim sparrow]

Eeeerrrrrrr

No?

It shouldn’t be unstable anyway

[indigo peak]

o okay

bc i think birdpoop uses mshook memory for a lot of it

and i was just wondering why not use hooks

[grim sparrow]

It doesn’t really matter

[lime pivot]

seriously

[untold river]

lmao

xcodes

[lime pivot]

I need 11.7 to build tweaks
I need 12.5 to build Zebra
I need latest to build NewTerm and so Homebrew will shut up about my Xcode being old

[untold river]

lmao

rip

[indigo peak]

oh he has wireshark

[untold river]

i tried installing homebrew on darling (wine but macos thingy)

[indigo peak]

pls dont hack me

[untold river]

and the command line tools are 5gb

like only the xcode cli tools are 5gb

why 🗿

[lime pivot]

lmao I actually installed wireshark the other day because I was trying to debug my router's firewall

I learned I could ssh into my router and get a tcpdump so I tried it

[grim sparrow]

I’m in the process of fixing 2.0 for Xcode 13

a few things need fixing

[lime pivot]

oh yeah and don't let anyone tell you the 🚫 on Xcode.app means anything, you can legit just run it from terminal

[untold river]

chariz-db-prod

[grim sparrow]

You can remove it altogether

[lime pivot]

yeah I'm just stealing your personal info from the database

[grim sparrow]

The block is in the info.plist iirc

[untold river]

my name is probably somewhere in there

[lime pivot]

but you need to break the signature on the .app so meh

would rather keep my Xcode.apps legit

[grim sparrow]

Does editing stuff break it?

[lime pivot]

the only things that don't is removing arch slices from fat binaries, and deleting .lproj's

and that's purely because there were shittons of apps that would do both of those back when codesigning was being developed

[indigo peak]

ok good night "developers"

[grim sparrow]

Gn

[lime pivot]

so they made edge cases for them to not break signatures

[grim sparrow]

I should sleep soon

[lime pivot]

gn donato tomato

[grim sparrow]

it’s 6:03

[lime pivot]

I should start doing some work soon

it's 4:33 pm

I have to fix that slightly inconvenient problem where Zebra DoSes your repos

pretty sure if I look at logs like 3/4 of it is several /sileo-featured.json requests in a row from Zebra

[tacit spade]

a discovery

if you make the presented vc's view transparent

you can see the blur

and 1 is a different style from 0

the type is probably .extraLight/.light/.dark

[grim sparrow]

This looks a lot better

[tacit spade]

this is a really cool transition. idk if you can tell but it also has a fade-scale effect too

it's in uikit so you can use it with damn near anything too

@lime pivot i miss when i had the time to consider making a tweak settings ui framework

[lime pivot]

I mean me too

everything that's in cephei I made because I needed it

turns out everyone else needs that stuff too!

they also need more stuff and I know it but I just don't have time any more nor do I have the motivation to write tweaks again

[tacit spade]

school really just be like

"no"

[lime pivot]

[tacit spade]

i kinda want summer 2020 back

dude i was on fire as a developer

like im a much better developer especially here recently

but i was making stuff that was really cool for the first time then

im really longing for my glory days at 19 huh

[lime pivot]

meh, I feel that

or rather we all feel that

just the way it goes

[tacit spade]

actually i think real life killed my motivation for me

like if i had to pinpoint a day where i stopped doing tweak development actively

it would probably be the day when i started questioning my sexuality

i kinda grew up a lot suddenly so my priorities had to switch

and i just havent had time since

[lime pivot]

yeah that makes a lot of sense

I value my ability to sit at home and just write code probably a little too much

you don't want to be like me

[tacit spade]

on the bright side, the more i learn, the easier tweak dev will get

and the faster

[lime pivot]

it might seem like I must be doing well if I'm working full-time on chariz but I think 2021 was my most lonely and boring year yet

[tacit spade]

omg you are?

had no idea

and yeah socialization. you gotta get that from elsewhere. if homeschooling's loneliness did a good thing for me, it's that i know how to find friends

[lime pivot]

homeschooled, huh

how'd that happen?

[tacit spade]

yuuup

my parents are both educators

[lime pivot]

oh, right, yeah fair enough

[tacit spade]

they were in it for the one-on-one educational theory

my mom would often correct my, uh, intelligent design science textbook when i was younger, but by highschool (biology especially) she just was out of her league and couldn't do that

[lime pivot]

I spose, of course knowing literally nothing about your situation so I can be very off-base here, that just feels like a great way to make your kid lack social skills and be lonely and never have friends in their life

[untold river]

so true

[lime pivot]

but at least they're a smart talented kid because you taught them instead of a group of salaried people who are only hired if they have the appropriate degrees to teach their subject to children

[tacit spade]

however i got a stellar education in literature, grammar, spelling, and the like. and networking, hah! my dad taught us networking when i was 7 by having the whole family hold string(s) to show the difference between p2p and client/server connections

[lime pivot]

or rather because the textbooks taught you, I guess

[lime pivot]

ahahah well played

[tacit spade]

it was a fantastic visual

[lime pivot]

so I guess uni is a very very different environment for you then

[tacit spade]

yeah yup

oh and i had a really good history curriculum

i would legit recommend reading it just for fun

https://welltrainedmind.com/c/subject/history-geography/

this. go for The History of the World. It reads like a book, it explains things chronologically and with relevant context, and it incorporates events from across the world. it is outstanding

[tacit spade]

yup. but it's a christian uni... because ethan was dumb... but at least the honors college is very progressive. also im learning how to be social very quickly

[lime pivot]

eh, oh well. you live and learn

I definitely didn't start my post-school life the right way at all

pursued the wrong career path (not even in IT!) and then when I got on the right track, I derailed myself by getting an iOS dev job that became more and more demanding on my time

[tacit spade]

oof

[untold river]

oof

[lime pivot]

oof

[untold river]

i guess you only know how shit turns out in retrospect

[tacit spade]

im trying to decide whether or not i should transfer

i am not happy at my university

[lime pivot]

guess all I can say is you may as well fuck up while you're young and it's not as big a deal

[untold river]

true

[tacit spade]

it's a constant reminder of what i used to believe, and it resulted in a few emotional breakdowns in just my first semester. the mandatory bible courses are really demotivating

[lime pivot]

and also it's extremely normal to start a degree you realise you don't like, or to go to a uni that it just doesn't feel like you vibe well at

[tacit spade]

my parents do not live by this rule and it causes me to overthink everything

[lime pivot]

especially a Christian one when you realise that's really not where you wanna be in life, I guess 😬

I almost forgot Christian education is a thing beyond high school in the US

also seems… maybe a little bit at odds with the place also teaching scientific topics, lmao

[tacit spade]

that's a... that's a bit of a conflict within the school

my math professor last semester is a young earth creationist :/

[lime pivot]

could have guessed that

it just reminds me of how fundamental conflict is to America and it makes me depressed and ashamed for the innocent people who get caught up in all the ramifications it has

[tacit spade]

is conflict not fundamental elsewhere?

see this is why i want to travel

heck i'd move to an eastern country if i could get married there

[untold river]

be an english teacher and move to asian countries

[tacit spade]

christianity moment

[lime pivot]

see, Australia was built on the British invading the Aboriginals' land, forming a society, and then systemically screwing over those people they already screwed over in the first place

stop me if you've heard that one before huh

[tacit spade]

huh

i may have

we may have two whole holidays about that

[lime pivot]

I'm referring to the US's history of course

but over time (100-200+ years later but oh well) those disgusting systemic practices were scrapped and the whites tried to create as much unity as they possibly could with the aboriginals, and I guess to a degree it worked?

[tacit spade]

wtf

[lime pivot]

I mean nobody can say any conflict like that will ever be forgiven and forgotten

[tacit spade]

meanwhile the us had destiny to manifest

[lime pivot]

but at least for the most part that may be about the extent of discrimination against certain groups that's more than just a handful of people being racists not connected to any religion/government/etc

we still have right-wing press trying to use tactics here that worked in America, of course

we did kinda give you guys Rupert Murdoch (sorry)

but we haven't been conditioned to hate people because TV said so, so it really just hasn't worked

[tacit spade]

how dare you

[lime pivot]

it was an accident sir it wont happen again sir im sorry sir

in fact Sky News tried to play the YouTube algorithm to try Fox News-tier tactics and Google went "yeah no lmao" and banned them from algorithmic suggestions for 6 months

[untold river]

lol

[tacit spade]

just put together my school planner

[lime pivot]

damn it

[tacit spade]

and i mean that in a very literal way

very nice, thanks meteochu

[lime pivot]

ah I figured you had to be using his app hah

it looks so nice on macOS, definitely translated over well as a catalyst app

[tacit spade]

i honestly love the tasks feature

the syncing is so perfect

instead of fiddling around with a calendar or reminders

it’s just all in one place

keeps me from trying to reinvent the wheel too

[misty cradle]

U ever just wake up at 8 am

Realize u can do things if u stand up right now

and then just decide to not

[faint stag]

sometimes i wake up at 5 am and don't decide to go back to sleep

[misty cradle]

[untold river]

so true

[trail sandal]

If i hook to NSUserDefaults how would i edit it
Cause there is no corresponding method to edit this value

Very new to objective c so i dont really understand how to edit these properties

for example if i wanted to change it to 3 what would that look like because there is no method calling it

[lime pivot]

looking good @indigo peak https://twitter.com/neuroecology/status/1479432438896017409

Adam J Calhoun (@neuroecology)

This post from a NYC high schooler about the covid situation right now is wild https://t.co/iefprZq2fy

Retweets

18185

Likes

59685

Twitter · Jan 7, 2022, 12:39 PM

[trail sandal]

American school moment

There really isn’t no “right” answer to fix our situation but I know what schools our doin right now isn’t helping it

[lime pivot]

I wish it were just America, our leadership in Australia has given up as well

[trail sandal]

Yeah it’s a general problem all over

[lime pivot]

my state's premier (equivalent of governor) got covid 😂

sucked in mf

you did this to yourself

[trail sandal]

Lmao he live or nah

[lime pivot]

he's fine, said he stopped having symptoms a few days ago but still needs to isolate

[trail sandal]

That’s good aslong as he’s ok

Issue with Americans is people are uneducated about topics but think they know everything

Same reason we have millions of anti vaxxers

Maybe we should just work off social points

China doing solid rn

https://tenor.com/view/social-credit-social-credit-score-credit-score-score-china-gif-23125701

[lime pivot]

can i buy a house with my social credit

[trail sandal]

Lmaoo

Yes but you will be 400 USD in debt

[lime pivot]

that's it? I'm fucking in

[trail sandal]

@shut stag make currency converter in bloo

[trail sandal]

Forgot the k...

*400k

[lime pivot]

god dammit

"forgot"

I'm sure the banks and insurance companies forget all the time too 🙃

[trail sandal]

Wish my contractor would forget the k

Lmaooo

[vivid dew]

i think all americans should be able to kill any other americans until the pandemic is over

[lime pivot]

hahaha sorry I know we said we'd cover up to $400k. actually we're just gonna give you $400. hope that helps you out of your house burning down

[trail sandal]

Purge time yay

[trail sandal]

American insurance be like

[trail sandal]

Bro your on the Theos team too, is there a single thing you don’t do

Every single major program/org you are apart of

[lime pivot]

I do too much

[trail sandal]

Yeah bro I can’t even figure out how to edit class properties in obj c 😂

[trail sandal]

I feel like Chariz merch would make more than the repo alone

Cause the logo is gas

But force the user to be jailbroken just to make kids who updated mad

[lime pivot]

lmao

sadly in this era of jailbreaking you could even be right about that

[trail sandal]

The constant disappointment leads to happiness from the smallest things

[untold river]

this gives me an idea

[trail sandal]

A iOS 15 kernal exploit was discovered. %0.02 chance of working. ETA kids got so excited

[untold river]

how about we drop jailbreaks 3 months after a major release

[trail sandal]

This is going to be my new status

[untold river]

i mean they'll do anything as long as they get that sweet sweet cydia in the springboard

[trail sandal]

Give them a web clip and call it good, they bootloop themselves anyway

[untold river]

i wonder how many will complain about no cydia on 15 then promptly realize what they were missing out on all the timr

[trail sandal]

It’s a brick one way or another

I am like 30 messages away from not being a white name

Yay

[lime pivot]

honestly it's not even the premise of having a working exploit that works more than 0.000000001% of the time as long as you're in a well-lit room and can press a very specific key sequence while standing on one leg and touching your nose and rubbing your head, it's more that we just don't even know how tweaks will work on iOS 15 yet thanks to the shift to rootless

"well-lit room" is a reference to that iOS 7 jb that literally did fail if your phone's light sensor didn't detect you as being in a bright room, lmao

[untold river]

you forgot freezer temperature

[trail sandal]

I’m gonna be honest, I don’t even know the difference. I have been fed so much misinformation from users. Would you mind explaining it, use big boy terms so I remember it

[trail sandal]

Wtf that’s funny asf

[untold river]

while plugged in with 50% battery, airplane mode on

and then hop into the jailbreak immediately after a fresh boot to minimize cpu usage

[trail sandal]

Lmao

[untold river]

to make matters worse checkra1n isnt going rootless because tweak compat or some shit

[trail sandal]

Checkrain has to

It’s a security feature lmao

Unless they disable it they have to deal with it

[untold river]

huh

bind mounts arent a security feature

[trail sandal]

As in they won’t have a 15 jb then

[untold river]

ah

i understand your point now

[trail sandal]

It’s not a bind mount it’s a sealed fs, not writing to specific parts

Read but no write

[untold river]

but checkra1n is going with the bind mount approach instead of going rootless

[trail sandal]

What is a bind mount

[lime pivot]

omg I found the tweet https://twitter.com/theipodrookie/status/482575289860784129

Theipodrookie (@Theipodrookie)

Jailbreaking with Pangu like

Twitter · Jun 27, 2014, 5:24 PM

proof it was real

[trail sandal]

Wtf lmaoooo

[untold river]

What is a bind mount?

A bind mount is an alternate view of a directory tree. Classically, mounting creates a view of a storage device as a directory tree. A bind mount instead takes an existing directory tree and replicates it under a different point

basically they're bind mounting a fake root to make it a real thing

[trail sandal]

So it just copies the entire fs basically and runs it on there

[lime pivot]

that really isn't an eli5 of bind mounts at all 😬

hard to follow that paragraph

[trail sandal]

Wait Holy shit did I just figure out how jailbrekas work

Is that what they do

[untold river]

i copied it from so because i dont have the brain for explaining myself rn

[trail sandal]

I’m a dumbass

[untold river]

no 🗿

[lime pivot]

not any current jbs, it was contemplated for iOS 15 but it isn't ideal

[trail sandal]

Nvm I’m an idiot

I’m thinking injection is editing

[untold river]

arent we all

[lime pivot]

lmao

dammit

no

[trail sandal]

Alright

[lime pivot]

thanks for fixing me being half a second too slow lmao

[trail sandal]

I hate when that happens

Worst is when you reply to the wrong person cause chat moves

[lime pivot]

thank god for discord adding in-context replies

[untold river]

i remember doing this ass thing wherei would quote with the message link

so people kinda know the context

[lime pivot]

heh

it was a pain in the ass but it was the best we could do

[untold river]

good old discord days

[lime pivot]

I had a coworker who would always explain the context of Why Things Are The Way They Are by starting the story with "in the bad old days"

[trail sandal]

Yeah true

[lime pivot]

I agree

[trail sandal]

Second that

[lime pivot]

my god I forgot how to objc

[untold river]

man

[trail sandal]

I would say same but can’t forget what you haven’t learned

[lime pivot]

I'm also apparently using NSLog debugging like a noob

[lime pivot]

[trail sandal]

I was about to say

How are you using Nslog

[untold river]

me doing print("cock") to debug my code

even with arguably one of the most powerful ides at my disposal i still print cock to check code

[trail sandal]

I just do stupid shit when testing

[trail sandal]

If I get hired by Elon musk himself I will still print random shit to test calls

[lime pivot]

honestly who's to say that's not literally what tesla engineers do when working on software that has the ability to kill passengers or others on the road

[trail sandal]

I wouldn’t doubt it

Probably still better than your average driver tho let’s be honest

[lime pivot]

checkForPedestrianInFrontOfCar() {
  cout << "got to here";
  // some complex logic here
}```

[untold river]

self driving cars dont have to be perfect

they just need to be better than humans

[lime pivot]

an interesting prospect I've thought about is what if we just say fuck all human-operated cars, make a bluetooth-like network of vehicles on the road that allows them to communicate their intent with each other

[untold river]

the sooner we disallow monkeys from controlling metal boxes that go zoom the better

[lime pivot]

rather than just guessing what's about to happen from what's happening right now, actually find out what's about to happen by just asking

[tardy narwhal]

honestly they just gotta implement CGP Grey's idea of synchronous acceleration

that's more than enough

[untold river]

yes

[lime pivot]

that specifically is what I was thinking of

traffic literally won't exist because there would be no reaction time to worry about

you just, go as soon as the car in front of you does

[untold river]

bluetooth would suck for transmitting any form of detailed information though, slow af

[lime pivot]

even without the benefit of an electric engine to make you go instantly it would still solve traffic for good

[untold river]

and there's the issue of bluetooth range

but the idea is nice

[lime pivot]

yeah I'm sure there's far better solutions for something like that

[untold river]

just have cars yell "yo im driving over here"

[lime pivot]

would more likely be line-of-sight tbh

you are literally behind one vehicle and in front of another one, you can take advantage of that to communicate

this gives me infrared vibes

back when the way you'd send files to your Nokia phone was through an infrared LED on your laptop

better get the positioning right and don't bump your laptop or phone or it'll get angry at you

[tardy narwhal]

ultrasonic or infrared would be so dope, imagine just having a bar & continuously talking to the vehicle in front and behind

[lime pivot]

I swear you've been | on vacation for the past year @tardy narwhal

must be one damn good vacation

[untold river]

one damn mass1ve* vacation

[lime pivot]

ughhh

[tardy narwhal]

dw, I felt the pain of that one too kirb

but yeah, at this point I became the vacation somehow

[lime pivot]

mood

[tardy narwhal]

so when are we going to tour the outback kirb

[lime pivot]

not at the moment that's for sure

[tardy narwhal]

oh my, that's an unfortunate development. Did I get it right though that you guys had next to no cases?

[lime pivot]

for a looooong time yeah

then we were like fuck it we've been good for too long, we deserve to open up

and then bam, omicron

and leadership basically going yeah nah we're not changing restrictions, family christmas and all

so now we just deal with this

government's decided to give up basically

[tardy narwhal]

a classic move, why stay safe if you can just roll with it™️

[lime pivot]

Australia is pulling an America and America is pulling a China

good times

[untold river]

man if this shit hits i'd probably be remote learning again in 3 weeks

please dont hit 🙏

[untold river]

i can hear it

[tardy narwhal]

your statement really felt like this picture

[lime pivot]

lmao

some US states are just not disclosing case numbers any more

[tardy narwhal]

lol wot

are you joking

[lime pivot]

so now it’s literally just China who stopped reporting cases back in early 2020

[tepid olive]

Do you all sleep

[lime pivot]

gm evelyn

[untold river]

gm

[tardy narwhal]

timezones aren't real

[tepid olive]

gm

[lime pivot]

no I’m just incredibly depressed

[tepid olive]

i slept 7 hours

[lime pivot]

which is about equivalent to never sleeping so I guess

[untold river]

fuck it

just have 1 timezone globally

[tepid olive]

evelyn moment 🙂

[untold river]

cant have shit

[tepid olive]

So true

Who gets night at lunch though

[tardy narwhal]

read that as "who gets lunch at night" and felt guilty for a second there lmao

[lime pivot]

America: covid is fine. don't worry about it 🙃

COVID: I've now mutated from the mild omicron variant to a mutant combination of omicron and delta, enjoy bitches

[untold river]

just use 24h time and remove all connotations between time and time of day

so 1200 may be afternoon for me but night for you

🗿

[lime pivot]

zero o'clock vibes

[tardy narwhal]

oh you absolutely need to watch Uncle Vsauce's video on am/pm

[lime pivot]

I'm all for making 24-hour time ubiquitous

and at minimum consolidating some timezones

my timezone is among the dumbest to exist on this planet

+09:30

[tardy narwhal]

put "no more DST" alongside it pls

[lime pivot]

yes I have to calculate an extra 30 minutes every time I try and mental maths figure out what time it is for other people

the work I do for you mfs

[untold river]

china spanned 3 tzs and managed to make the whole country +8 (well, mostly)

[lime pivot]

that's an interesting case because it was a bit more about discrimination than trying to simplify things

they wanted to screw things up for uyghurs

because of course they did

of course they were having none of that shit so the old timezone is still unofficially followed by people there

[ocean raptor]

Love it

[untold river]

lmao @lime pivot https://share.beerpsi.me/1a9gva8b.png

https://boingboing.net/2022/01/08/forced-by-shortages-to-sell-chipless-cartridges-canon-tells-customers-how-to-bypass-drm-warnings.html

[indigo peak]

Yeah that’s more or less what’s happening at my school

[karmic dirge]

not sure if this is a good place to ask
but I'm trying to set up an Evil Scheme Default app and I'm having trouble with it, if anyone could help me out setting that up, would be greatly appreciated!

[ocean raptor]

#jailbreak

[karmic dirge]

so it wasn't the right place to ask

[simple grove]

how can one learn how to make their own tweaks

[indigo peak]

@simple grove

[simple grove]

oh ty

[karmic dirge]

what's the bundle ID of a discord pop-up window (where it shows the site and can link you to safari)?

[faint stag]

fouldecrypt gui is here

wait
lmaooo this is by a saily dev

no wonder the ui is familiar

[grim sparrow]

[ocean raptor]

@grim sparrow when are you gonna rewrite sileo in swiftUI

[grim sparrow]

literally never

pre iOS 14.3 support is cool to have

and plus

fully rewriting the UI in a different framework has no benefits

other than making the app a bigger download

[ocean raptor]

Ok

[restive ether]

amy loves fat downloads

[grim sparrow]

I take pride in making all of my downloads as small as possible

[ocean raptor]

Go ahead, enable Bitcode

[simple grove]

is there any reason tweaks use obj-c instead of swift?

[grim sparrow]

yes

[simple grove]

what is the reason?

[grim sparrow]

Orion has only really existed for a short amount of time, has compatibility problems because of arm64e shittery, most of iOS is ObjC

[simple grove]

so purely because it's what the most things use? No functional reasons or anything, ok tyy

[grim sparrow]

Orion has only really existed for a short amount of time

has compatibility problems because of arm64e shittery

you won't see any major performance difference using Swift, its at this point more of a preference

99% of tweak developers are just more comfortable with objc

[celest quiver]

True, I agree

[simple grove]

what's orion

[grim sparrow]

something that allows you to make tweaks in swift

[ripe pike]

orion wont even compile

[grim sparrow]

sounds like you did something wrong

thats Aemulo

.

[restive ether]

skill issue

[ripe pike]

I followed the guide very roughly and tried on 2 operational systems with the same error

[grim sparrow]

what error

[ripe pike]

Swift not found

[grim sparrow]

what os did you try on

[ripe pike]

linux

running kali and ubuntu

[grim sparrow]

fun chart

[restive ether]

imagine writing in swift 1-4, L

[grim sparrow]

Swift 4 was cool

swift 1 was a meme

[restive ether]

you’re cool

[grim sparrow]

[ocean raptor]

Me waiting for C 3

[rapid lion]

swift 1 was so different to swift today

but tbf

swift 2-4 are not far off

you can definitely see that it’s incremental improvement on each version

apart from some of the string mistakes they made in the past lmao

[indigo peak]

swift is just bad

either way

[rapid lion]

aw 😦

[grim sparrow]

not true

[rapid lion]

i really really like swift

[grim sparrow]

^

[rapid lion]

^

[grim sparrow]

apart from when I don't like it

[rapid lion]

lmao

we're getting move only types

soon

[indigo peak]

wtf

nerd

[grim sparrow]

yes

adding even more keywords

[rapid lion]

unfortunate

needed tho

arc optimisations go brrr

[grim sparrow]

true

[tepid olive]

that is gonna be cool

i really want variadic length generics

[ripe pike]

how do you mfs know what to hook to in gamepigeon if that thing isnt even open source

[tepid olive]

IDA Professional Edition

[ripe pike]

ah

that makes sense now

i already have an extension smh

how do i run objc on vs code

[indigo peak]

you dont "run"

you need to compile

and then run in your case the executable it outputs

[ripe pike]

oh it was control alt n

ez

[indigo peak]

wrong, i wrote almost all of gameseagull without ida

[indigo peak]

a lot of frustration

[grim sparrow]

and thats why its bad

[indigo peak]

are you trying to make your own cheats

[indigo peak]

[ripe pike]

no lol i was just curious how to modify stuff

[indigo peak]

fine, ill rewrite it to only use the offsets provided by ida

[ripe pike]

not gonna steal your audience

[grim sparrow]

pain

[ripe pike]

yet

[grim sparrow]

or you could dynamically find then at runtime

[indigo peak]

i stole my audience from birdpoop

so its only a matter of time

[indigo peak]

you see, i could

[ripe pike]

birdpoop was dead since the beggining

[indigo peak]

but idk how to do that

[ripe pike]

at least gameseagull is maintained

[indigo peak]

• was

[ripe pike]

what

oh

[indigo peak]

i havent made an update in months

[ripe pike]

yeah youre unjailbroken

[indigo peak]

yeah..

i have an idea for like

3 things

they will take a long time

but i have 3 ideas

[ripe pike]

but at least the dev is still alive

so thats a plus

[tepid olive]

cap

[indigo peak]

tf you mean cap

i only started to use ida towards the end of beta

before release

[ripe pike]

"almost"

how did you find the offsets without ida

[indigo peak]

there arent offsets

i used hook

@tepid olive i used ida for seabattle and for 8 ball lines

other then that

99% of it was made without ida

[tepid olive]

cap

[indigo peak]

@tepid olive first time i got ida was on august 12th

2021

[tepid olive]

cap

[grim sparrow]

why tf do you know that date

[indigo peak]

i searched my first message that contained "ida" kek

and it was me talking to scoob about it

[tepid olive]

nfr

[indigo peak]

i said i had the binary open in ida

and i had no idea what anything meant

wtf is this

there is no content inside of them

@ripe pike the tweak is open source in case you didn't know

[ripe pike]

😄

🙂

[indigo peak]

https://github.com/donato-fiore/GameSeagull

[ripe pike]

yay

im struggling to compile

[indigo peak]

personally, i think the project is good for people starting to get into tweak development, after they understand obj-c a bit

[ripe pike]

shit fuck

[indigo peak]

since it uses a bunch of things

ivar hooking, memory hooking, preferences + cephei

[tepid olive]

@grim sparrow There is a loading screen message that says "Now available on Rejail" do you think its bad

[grim sparrow]

no

I saw that when I tested my build

lmao

[tepid olive]

nfr

[indigo peak]

and whatever the fuck this is

%orig([preferences integerForKey:[self _id]] ?: arg1);

but written as 3 lines

so it doesnt look atrocious

[tepid olive]

.

the first one is the best

flower is amazing

[indigo peak]

The more mature, hot older sister

[tepid olive]

thats jaidan

make me one fiore

[indigo peak]

is that for

like how

miencraftr has the messagfes

at the top

[tepid olive]

its for the loading screen

[indigo peak]

yeah

okay

hmmm

[tepid olive]

yeah same thing

[indigo peak]

close enough

"download gameseagull"

[ripe pike]

which dev in here wants to get exploited by me for money

im talking big bucks

[indigo peak]

[grim sparrow]

[indigo peak]

:peek:

[faint lion]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/863637794609037332.png

[tepid olive]

im a woman pick me

[ripe pike]

ok i need you to build a framework from scratch for me for 5 dollars

[tepid olive]

ok

[ripe pike]

what

youre supposed to say no

[tepid olive]

@ripe pike done

[ripe pike]

oh

[tepid olive]

send me some money now

[ripe pike]

💰

[tepid olive]

man

[ripe pike]

scammed

[indigo peak]

@tepid olive

"I don't want free discord nitro."

[tepid olive]

give me free nitro

[indigo peak]

make that a message

[tepid olive]

?

[indigo peak]

a loadign message

for accord

@grim sparrow

remember this?

5 am code

and you were like

[grim sparrow]

yeah

[indigo peak]

yehai ll do it

im bored

[grim sparrow]

what about it

[indigo peak]

idk i just find it funny that you wrote 50 lines for my tweak

[grim sparrow]

lol

[indigo peak]

and didnt want any credit

i wish i figured out how to do it myself though

it wouldve been cool

[ripe pike]

whyyyy

windows is fuck

i already added mingw to path

[restive ether]

gcc is cringe 🙏🙏

[ripe pike]

smh my head

fuck gcc

[restive ether]

nobody here uses gcc

[ripe pike]

i need it to compile objc 😦

[restive ether]

clang?

[ripe pike]

no im using the vs code extension

vscode-runner

[restive ether]

n

[ripe pike]

how do i add -framework to gcc

[ocean raptor]

What are you trying to do?

Are you trying to compile objc for windows? Use winobjc

[ripe pike]

compile objc on vs code

[ocean raptor]

Compile what?

[silver rampart]

gcc can compile objc?

[ocean raptor]

Kinda

[restive ether]

when it feels like it

[ocean raptor]

But even gnustep recommends clang

[ripe pike]

im trying to compile a simple hello world

[ocean raptor]

To run on windows, right?

[ripe pike]

int main (int argc, const char *argv[]) {
        NSAutoreleasePool *pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init];
        NSLog (@"Hello, World!");
        [pool drain];
        return 0;
}

[ripe pike]

yea

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/Microsoft/WinObjC/

[restive ether]

oh look it’s dustin

poor guy

[ocean raptor]

The readme should help you get it setup

[restive ether]

working at microsoft