There’s a lot of families here who have literally nothing
#development
grim sparrow
tepid olive
yes.
grim sparrow
Anything that can use the internet is good enough
tepid olive
it's mostly hand downs
lmao our school districts gave each kid a macbook
so we are ok
my iPad is a 5th gen w/ IC lock
grim sparrow
Our government is trying but there’s millions of kids and only so much stock they can buy
tepid olive
but battery is so good idec
perks of living in a high tax area
tether isn't a problem on a iPad
tepid olive
LOL
grim sparrow
Stock shortages
tepid olive
timothy apple will get you Apple devices
ugh fuck me i have to do a run still today
chromebooks are junk please don't get them
true true
my school chromebooks stutter when using word online
there's a delay when typing
schools chrome boots
i just bring my Macbook Pro 
lethal ice
chrome boot
grim sparrow
lol
grim sparrow
i just bring my Macbook Pro <:frcoal:784338955759517696>
I was banned from using my own laptop in lessons
lethal ice
our school gave us all surface pros for online classes but now we're back in person
grim sparrow
lethal ice
they were shit anyways
tepid olive
i was supposed to be not allowed to use my computer but the guy watching us didn't care
lethal ice
tepid olive
grim sparrow
The reason I’m not allowed to is because I refuse to install the restrictions thingy that allows teachers to see my screen and lock it etc
lethal ice
intjbeer thats literally me 5 minutes ago
tepid olive
i had to hide one emote cause it has n word 
tepid olive
The reason I’m not allowed to is because I refuse to install the restrictions th...
aka malware?
grim sparrow
Yes
lethal ice
i sent 3 videos of me chugging beer to jynx
tepid olive
who would use that
grim sparrow
School
grim sparrow
modify the malware
I can’t
grim sparrow
They only give out bins if you have a license key which I don’t
tepid olive
what
grim sparrow
And we can’t open C drive at school
grim sparrow
I can’t get my hands on the software
tepid olive
crack the C drive open
do it
true
physically
do it
and extract the program
encryption
i hope they don't use encryption
grim sparrow
grim sparrow
I can cd in but copying and stuff gives me permission errors
lethal ice
lol my school computers disable command prompt but you can still run batch files
tepid olive
then patch the program and unleash a literal worm virus onto your school network to break all instances of the program
easy
true
grim sparrow
my school disabled cmd but powershell works fine
tepid olive
windows 0day
lethal ice
try running batch files
tepid olive
I can cd in but copying and stuff gives me permission errors
just use sudo
lethal ice
99% it works
tepid olive
grim sparrow
try running batch files
Can’t
lethal ice
rip
grim sparrow
we used to be able to
tepid olive
wtf
grim sparrow
Someone fucking installed Desktop Goose on every machine. That’s what made us loose C drive and batch file perms
tepid olive
encryption always best
the only required program for us is zoom, which is malware but...
except on school shit
we can use any device we damn well please
lethal ice
bruh i made a batch file to open explorer.exe infinitely and put it on a bunch of computers at my middle school that was so funny to watch
tepid olive
the only required program for us is zoom, which is malware but...
same
and boy do i abuse this
grim sparrow
My school doesn’t use zoom which I’m grateful for
tepid olive
we can use any device we damn well please
ah yes
ok time to go run
"sorry zoom doesn't work on Windows XP"
grim sparrow
lol
lethal ice
damn im crossing now that the beer is hitting
lethal ice
tepid olive
literally useless without emotes
burnt niche
My first paycheck from new job im buying a ipad
tepid olive
fr
burrit0z how r u already done running
wait @lethal ice wtf it’s only monday, why you drinking already lmaoo
ain’t even mid week
valid venture
gotta get those liver problems by 30 somehow
tepid olive
you sound like my middle school health teacher
tepid olive
yessir i got my hands on a windows 8.0 ISO
tepid olive
fuck 8.1, 8.0 is the best
restive ether
cap to the highest level
tepid olive
300kbps
Odyssey restore rootfs not shit in the next version confirmed
the ISO is literally impossible to get
it is off the internet
internet archive to the rescue again
burnt niche
You could easily find a torrent probably
restive ether
good
restive ether
tepid olive
true true
burnt niche
lime pivot
fuck 8.1, 8.0 is the best
Windows 8 Developer Preview is my jam
Tweet@Rama the best twitter client ever
tepid olive
i’ll try to make sure my download runs overnight
internet archive is so slow
yea it wasn’t running so i started it again
luckily i did that lmao
@lime pivot Did you hear back from the dev of Cephei?
oh no not cephei
it killed my wife and my children
restive ether
he’s too busy being upside-down
tepid olive
uʍop-ǝpᴉsdn ƃuᴉǝq ʎsnq ooʇ s’ǝɥ** @restive ether
make sure he can read it, be polite
restive ether
sorry
tepid olive
ǝnɹʇ
burnt niche
YOOOO
Im in this video
7:56
Thats me watching her video
First time being on youtube and it feels so fucking weird
tepid olive
Harvard C++ Study Guide
Harvard University C++ Study Guide
@restive ether @tepid olive Is there a good alternative to Cephei? One that supports multiple pages (plists) and so on?
restive ether
not that i know of
surreal mountain
how????????
surreal mountain
xXxtimmothyxXx
restive ether
at least 45 blocked idiot developers
lime pivot
<@239564780271173642> Did you hear back from the dev of Cephei?
jerk just responded "cephei is perfect, there are no bugs, go away"
pearl sail
fair robin
lmfao
half walrus
someone needs to port rainmeter to ios
shouldn't be that hard honestly
just a weird syntax for manual UI math
restive ether
is rain meter still unoptimized garbage
half walrus
i've had no problems with it but I have a workstation designed to run like 4 specced out VMs
pearl sail
half walrus
however it runs great even on the arm laptop w/ the aarch build
opening mozilla firefox alone uses about 30x the resources of rm
half walrus
yeah that's not to say firefox is bad
pearl sail
and seems lighter
half walrus
also great on the laptop
better than edge
a bit resource intensive but it's not like I use other programs on that computer
edge, firefox, and vscode are all i ever open on it
pearl sail
Well anything that is chromium based is pretty resource intensive
half walrus
and rainmeter ofc
bc gotta have that sexy bg + visualizer + forecast + battery + time
half walrus
2nd monitor setup do be lookin kinda nice
need to write a spotify plugin but also gross windows
undone nest
damn i like the task manager vibe on the usage graphs
lime pivot
it does seem like rainmeter's scripting language could be slightly more competent
gentle grove
Rain meters
gentle grove
What is it
lime pivot
it's just a random bunch of things that eventually you get right and it works but you dread having to edit ever again
I did write my own rainmeter thingies for myself (files are probably long gone now) and ugh
burnt niche
@half walrus do you use taskbarx?
pearl sail
I haven't used Windows in about 2 years now
half walrus
<@676886464042237973> do you use taskbarx?
no
tepid olive
2nd monitor setup do be lookin kinda nice
whats those widgets there? rainmeter? 🥲 looks super nice god damn
tepid olive
ahhh there’s so much stuff going on
discord window too small to see any content
wtf krit in sus server
iirc that’s cool stars server
rigid yarrow
2nd monitor setup do be lookin kinda nice
what do you use for weather widget
tepid olive
rocky token
Replace the battery
rocky token
Oh yeah then just keep it plugged in when testing lol. Thought you meant a daily
tepid olive
nah i have 11 pro as my daily
even if it was a daily, more cost effective to upgrade
late ridge
haha
imagine having a dedicated testing device
I just convince my sister to lend me her iPX for notched testing
lilac forge
this may be a stupid question, but im looking into making tweaks and was wondering, what differs between versions that can cause some tweaks to stop working entirely? whats different?
tepid olive
lots
gaunt mesa
isn't that usually an issue the actual jailbreak has to deal with
so it's not really as important for tweak dev
ofc it's still an issue in certain places, but not as much
tepid olive
imagine having a dedicated testing device
3 including the 6 and the X
late ridge
ashen birch
if i ever get into tweak dev i'm gonna have hella devices lmao
ipod touch 6, iphone 5s, iphone 7, ipad 6, (soon) iphone se, iphone 8 plus
twilit jungle
All legacy devices 
twilit jungle
twilit jungle
true
tepid olive
under ios 14 non-a12 is now legacy
anything under A15 now legacy
pearl sail
if i ever get into tweak dev i'm gonna have hella devices lmao
I would rather get into the security side of it. The tweaks side of this community just seems like 80% reused content and the rest is original stuff
ashen birch
true
pearl sail
But the funny thing is mfers giving money to the 80% reused content
misty cradle
thats the way bro
pearl sail
That's 20% original
Honestly most of the 20% devs are in this channel
tepid olive
gm @everyone
@tepid olive
@tepid olive loss
guess you aren’t in the server
husk
that one
husk
tepid olive
<@456226577798135808> your husk is from a different server
that is from the original server
tepid olive
pearl sail
didn't know there were layers lol
pearl sail
#cum has it
pearl sail
I figured
tepid olive
pearl sail
In heard they were other server haven't been invited to them tho
misty cradle
jkk is the best place
but its doors are closed and one member is pending to be invited
tepid olive
yes now give me the invite
misty cradle
never
tepid olive
ok ni
lethal kayak
jkk
lethal kayak
pearl sail
Am I a good fit tr1?
pearl sail
not really
grim sparrow
racist jokes funny. actual discriminations not.
bruh
just don't joke about dumb stuff like that
ezpz
tepid olive
02*
no
you can send it
what the fuck
is that why i am pregnant
what
@grave sparrow
@grim sparrow true
grim sparrow
tepid olive
was a good video
grim sparrow
Didn't I send that ages ago
grim sparrow
tepid olive
i’m fish
grim sparrow
alright
tepid olive
🐠
grim sparrow
got it
chrome musk
restive ether
wtf
tepid olive
well macOS sudo wont have that bug
but it will have the bug that the fix for caused that
pearl sail
Hopefully my PR doesn’t need any additional changes
tepid olive
restive ether
i worked hard on this
pearl sail
i worked hard on this
I wanna see you work harder
restive ether
twerk harder
tepid olive
i worked hard on this
ok
tepid olive
ntwerkharder
tepid olive
mc.procurs.us best server
tepid olive
why tf did i not ommit the 1x scale images from my resources bundle
waste of space
even iphone se has 2x scale factor smh
grim sparrow
L
tepid olive
doesnt really matter, but im not gonna include them from now on
extra effort to resize anyways
tepid olive
why tf did i not ommit the 1x scale images from my resources bundle
at least it will work on the iPhone 3GS too
true
half walrus
i think i made a comment about that on the wiki
tepid olive
ive been including the reg scale for over a year 
half walrus
tepid olive
that's like including armv7 in archs
grim sparrow
that's like including armv7 in archs
jailbreak app developers who compile for arm64 and arm64e annoy me
tepid olive
that's like including armv7 in archs
btw what the fuck is that 59x60 size
Apple also mentions it in the configuration profile reference
oh speaking of which i can remove arm64e slice from my app dylib
for web clips
grim sparrow
bruh
tepid olive
https://developer.apple.com/business/documentation/Configuration-Profile-Reference.pdf
Optional. A PNG icon to be shown on the Home screen. Should be 59 x 60
pixels in size. If not specified, a white square will be shown.
59x60
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/devicemanagement/webclip
Web clip icons are 144 x 144 pixels for iPad devices with a Retina display, and 114 x 114 pixels for iPhone devices.
grim sparrow
tepid olive
😩
grim sparrow
https://developer.apple.com/documentation/devicemanagement/webclip
Web clip icon...
why tf are they a different size
to app icons
tepid olive
yeah, idk what the fuck is up with those web clip scales when app icons are generally 60x60 @1x, @2x or @3x
iPad gets more complicated
180px × 180px (60pt × 60pt @3x)
true
grim sparrow
grim sparrow
😠
tepid olive
There are borders added to the icon so the actual icon size on iPhone ≤3GS is 59x60.
iPad — 72x72.
iPhone (≥4) — 114x114.
iPhone ≤3GS — 57x57 — If possible.
grim sparrow
is there a reason for this, or does it just not work
tepid olive
oh this isnt terminal
tepid olive
is there a reason for this, or does it just not work
it is
a reason
let me explain
if you do that, you get a respring loop when ldrestarting iirc
grim sparrow
or does it just not work
tepid olive
because it isnt initialized, so it doesnt return a value. but it needs to...
grim sparrow
yeah
grim sparrow
poggers
tepid olive
btw I tried doing UIScreen.mainScreen().setBrightness(0.6) in Pythonista per the docs, and it just crashed the app
probably locked behind some entitlement now
tepid olive
still don't get how tf it got approved on the App Store
being able to call arbitrary ObjC methods
BALLS
grim sparrow
app store review is weird
tepid olive
Apple could easily pick on even arbitrary Python code execution
grim sparrow
they look for 50 seconds in airplane mode
tepid olive
but even ObjC calls...
robust radish
being able to call arbitrary ObjC methods
lol, objcs architecture == able to arbitrarily call methods. its one of the easiest language to sneak stuff into
blessed apple
tepid olive
cock
robust radish
you'd think they'd include dynamic analysis of dispatched methods in the Appstore Review process, but they only do static analysis for private APIs and stufff
tepid olive
from objc_util import *
LSApplicationWorkspace = ObjCClass('LSApplicationWorkspace')
workspace = LSApplicationWorkspace.defaultWorkspace()
workspace.openApplicationWithBundleID('com.apple.PreBoard')
this works
LOL
tepid olive
nah, it's used when you reset all settings
"Swipe to upgrade"
but it doesn't actually upgrade shit so idk
tepid olive
"Swipe to upgrade"
thought that was purple buddy?
what is purple buddy used for then
Burrito abuses PreBoard in AuthKit to do Touch ID/Face ID in Shortcuts natively without external apps
tepid olive
Burrito abuses PreBoard in AuthKit to do Touch ID/Face ID in Shortcuts natively ...
wtf
no i dont
not you
other burrito
half walrus
u need a rebrand
wicked summit
The complete purpose of PreBoard is currently unknown.
half walrus
other burrito do be shitting on ur good name
tepid olive
other burrito do be shitting on ur good name
LOL im shitting on it as well
dont worry
grim sparrow
lol
half walrus
fuck is preboard
tepid olive
hold on i have something funny
grim sparrow
lol
tepid olive
```py
from objc_util import *
LSApplicationWorkspace = ObjCClass('LSApplicationW...
LMAO why the fuck is this icon so big
so just to check
theos automatically fixes file permissions?
for assets like pngs?
grim sparrow
probably
tepid olive
welp...
it does it seems
holy fucking shit this saved so much space
this is now like half the size
restive ether
you’re welcome
grim sparrow
How big were your icons
tepid olive
let me see
too big
about 5 times bigger than need be
LOL
@onyx slate the icons were like 5x larger than they needed to be
lethal ice
ok
tepid olive
Testing music and damn wtf why does iOS 13 lyric view look so good
why did i just trust the assets were the right side
size
that was a mistake
LMAO
tepid olive
my man downloaded straight from google so ofc it’s gonna be like 500x500
she on that powder
lethal ice
too bad only 13.4+ can get that view working properly in a tweak
just make a tweak to fix it
tepid olive
scorp troll
restive ether
just make a tweak to fix it
L
tepid olive
make a tweak to allow the tweak to tweak correctly
restive ether
no one ever made a tweak for pre 13.4 that worked properly
tepid olive
he has a point
ok off to go fix the logic in this code
pain
i rewrote this but somehow broke the logic
now time to look at old commit
sigh
WHAT THE FUCK I THOUGHT I REMOVED THE OLD GIT HISTORY
oh lord
2300 line .xm file
holy fucking shit
@half walrus how did you not murder me when you saw multipla code for the first time
if i wrote this code today i would just die
ok
please kill me
pearl sail
@gaunt mesa I was born to ruin your life
gaunt mesa
<:husksuffer:792490026214359040>
twilit jungle
I think its time to create a new Gen Y group so we are not lumped with these Gen Zs
gaunt mesa
true
tepid olive
peter gm
gaunt mesa
@twilit jungle let's create gen 
gaunt mesa
gen fruhh
pearl sail
I love it when spotlight search decides to take 20% of CPU resources and ramps my fans up
tepid olive
I love it when spotlight search decides to take 20% of CPU resources and ramps m...
YES
me too
gaunt mesa
imagine
tepid olive
gaunt mesa
that's called bad macbook
pearl sail
Well I didn't decide to be apart of the ugly duckling line of macbook pros
tepid olive
i have 13" 2020 mbp and spotlight still can fuck my device up
pearl sail
so MacOS just decides to be shit on some days and on other days it be like nah I am as cool as ice
pearl sail
I legit just force quit it in activity monitor
tepid olive
just let it do its shit
pearl sail
I wish I could disable it forever
tepid olive
its gonna do it in the end anyways
tepid olive
yes
tepid olive
twilit jungle
gentle grove
restive ether
ok
gentle grove
wicked summit
private String team1Name, team2Name;
private int team1Score, team2Score;
private bool gameInProgress;
public String getTeam1Name() {
return team1Name;
}
public void setTeam1Name(String name) {
team1Name = name;
}
public String getTeam2Name() {
return team2Name;
}
public void setTeam2Name(String name) {
team2Name = name;
}
public int getTeam1Score() {
return team1Score;
}
public void setTeam1Score(int score) {
team1Score = score;
}
public int getTeam2Score() {
return team2Score;
}
public void setTeam2Score(int score) {
team2Score = score;
}
public bool getGameInProgress() {
return gameInProgress;
}
public void setGameInProgress(bool inProgress) {
gameInProgress = inProgress;
}
Java is literally the dumbest shit
chiefs winning
overrated
that's why they're in the superbowl
😐
I still find it too weird to see brady not on the patriots
yea
latent kayak
does anyone know how to differentiate odyssey and odysseyra1n within a tweak? trying to display the jailbreak used by users, and can't seem to find a difference in the filesystem. i feel like checking for the checkra1n loader app isn't very reliable.
wicked summit
um
grim sparrow
yes
grim sparrow
^
latent kayak
but where...
grim sparrow
checkra1n leaves a file in /var/mobile iirc
wicked summit
there's like a checkra1n.dmg file in the root folder? documents folder?
latent kayak
does o-ra1n probably doesn’t have .installed_odyssey
there is... weirdly enough
grim sparrow
Nvm
restive ether
sad
grim sparrow
/var/checkra1n.dmg
latent kayak
that was my original assumption too, i thought it wouldn't be there.
grim sparrow
^
restive ether
oh
grim sparrow
It’s ez
latent kayak
ah i see the dmg file dope
wicked summit
can someone write a gist for obtaining root access in a tweak
grim sparrow
.installed_odyssey for Odyssey
.installed_odyssey + checkra1n.dmg for Ora1n
wicked summit
anything
grim sparrow
can someone write a gist for obtaining root access in a tweak
I linked a Reddit thread here yesterday to do this
grim sparrow
.
latent kayak
oooo
latent kayak
wait... why the hell does my iphone 11 have the checkra1n file in preferences.d
restive ether
wait... why the hell does my iphone 11 have the checkra1n file in preferences.d
apt pinning
latent kayak
that's sus
restive ether
that file actually makes filza crash, fun fact
and they still haven’t responded to my email and it’s been 5 months
grim sparrow
lol
restive ether
or the other crash i found for that matter
latent kayak
mine neither
grim sparrow
lol
wicked summit
😐
tepid olive
@latent kayak sileo adds it there cause check tries to do apt pinning that it needs to override
grim sparrow
Because cs doesn’t escalate every process
wicked summit
do I have it w odysseyra1n?
restive ether
it used too, don’t know if they randomly fixed it
grim sparrow
Yes
restive ether
make sure you update your sudo’s so no one nae naes you
for what reason
could you possibly
ok
wicked summit
true
latent kayak
anyone know what files are left by unc0ver?
restive ether
you can’t look up meth?
tepid olive
rewriting apt in c++
rewriting apt in ruby
tepid olive
rewriting apt in c++
apt is already written in c++ idiot
restive ether
NO
tepid olive
ruby v1 too
restive ether
apt is already written in c++ idiot
yes and that’s why i’m rewriting it
in more c++
wicked summit
is it possible to modify a deb to add a conflict to it? if so, I should make a tweak that modifies all the user's debs to conflict with Batchomatic
tepid olive
yes and that’s why i’m rewriting it
latent kayak
thx
wicked summit
pog
latent kayak
is it installer or installed?
wicked summit
oh true
latent kayak
do you think i would be asking if i was able to look?
latent kayak
🤦
tepid olive
ohio
latent kayak
🤦♂️
latent kayak
don't ask why it did two different emojis... i put : facepalm : for both xD
wicked summit
Who wants to play Batchomatic Rouelette? We go around and everyone has to let Batchomatic remove one system file ... last one without a bricked phone wins!
tepid olive
Who wants to play Batchomatic Rouelette? We go around and everyone has to let Ba...
sure
this but in the NOR partition
latent kayak
HE HAS ME BLOCKED OKAYY
tepid olive
lmaoo
wicked summit
why 😐
restive ether
it’s not hard to get blocked by pwn tbh
wicked summit
oo fun fact time
wicked summit
what would it do
restive ether
KPP less moment
tepid olive
what did pwn even make in u0 13.5
siguza wrote tachy0n, comex made substitute, jailbreakd was already done
wicked summit
do it
tepid olive
no
wicked summit
delete Springboard.app
tepid olive
1/6 chance of it deleting your NOR partition
restive ether
i’m pretty sure 13.5 was just a drop in update
tepid olive
which bricks your phone permanently
wicked summit
if you can't delete directories, you'll prob be fine
tepid olive
NOR aka FactoryData partition
tepid olive
what did pwn even make in u0 13.5
siguza wrote tachy0n, comex made substitute, j...
u0 uses substrated/substituted not jailbreakd
true
restive ether
substratenfr
tepid olive
substituted
for once autocorrect isn’t pissing off
orion best
Lol we makin fun of pwn again?
restive ether
just for like 5 seconds
tepid olive
Sad
restive ether
pwn is currently sipping pina coladas on the beach in croatia from his rebel case sponsorship
sponsored by frcoal energies corporation
L
L
L
L
white people
amirite
have you ever thought about the genocide of white americans
what if their family is minority based
🗿
pearl sail
Why do we even let the warlord speak guys
He has killed Men, Women, and even Children.
pearl sail
gaunt mesa
nfr
tepid olive
guys pwn20wnd resealed new nail real for ios 14.4! it’s a 20 day exploits!! time to install cydia 😎
i hear diatrus sucks dick
who
never heard of this distrus character
diatrus
sounds pretty distrust ful
ah shittt it’s 12
still have to do english
not in college in 2021 
pearl sail
not in college in 2021 <:SpongeSmirk:693724400670867526>
Can it be 140000000000
so the world can end
undone nest
spell what right
half walrus
ima get back into skywars
tepid olive
Ok krianta
half walrus
apparently im gold prestige
huh
according to my stats i was once good at this game
in like
2015
gentle grove
I am 19 star in skywars
gentle grove
Diamond
half walrus
lol a friend and I made a guild in 2015 and apparently we got enough for a tag just from the two of us playing over the years
i am creative
gentle grove
I disbanded my guild a long time ago
lethal ice
minecarft
gentle grove
It was like level 20 or something I don't rmeember
gaunt mesa
i am creative
wtf u pay $10/mo for minecraft
gentle grove
Imagine paying for mvp++
half walrus
i have a 1.2k backpack in tf2
yell at me for that if ur gonna yell at me for something
half walrus
$1200 worth of items ingame
gentle grove
True
latent kayak
Random question, does anyone know how to get the BigBoss repo icon from the repo URL? I can’t seem to find it.
lethal ice
cydiaicon.png i think
gentle grove
I think
latent kayak
You’d think... but nope.
lethal ice
CydiaIcon.png
latent kayak
It’s not
gentle grove
Even with that capitalization?
latent kayak
Mhm
half walrus
CydiaIcon@2x.png
lethal ice
its probably redirecting the request somewhere
half walrus
try pulling it with curl
tepid olive
Are you using the right url?
faint timber
ya'll ever deal with something this bullshit
lethal ice
looks like the asm im writing for my next project
latent kayak
Are you using the right url?
For the repo? Yeah.
tepid olive
Show the url
latent kayak
lethal ice
it won't even let me access the Release file
tepid olive
Is bigboss down?
lethal ice
no
latent kayak
No
lethal ice
i assume it's because of the stable main part
deb https://apt.thebigboss.org/repofiles/cydia/ stable main
im pretty sure that means the repo is elsewhere
or at least not at that url
latent kayak
I can’t get the packages file either
latent kayak
OH SHIT ITS AN APT REPO ISNT IT
lethal ice
surreal mountain
Ni
tepid olive
surreal mountain
........
latent kayak
Cuz afaik apt repos have a different file layout
lethal ice
"simple shit" yeah let me just go out of my way to learn about an archaic package manager designed for a platform i will never use
ill read all the books about it
tepid olive
archaic?
lethal ice
maybe even take a college course
tepid olive
apt is not archaic
lethal ice
it is to me
tepid olive
and apt has had the same format for years
tepid olive
yeah, 90s shit
gentle grove
I love pacman
lethal ice
👍
latent kayak
So I take it no ones able to help me track down the icon lol
tepid olive
its simple shit
gentle grove
what's an apt
tepid olive
the sad part is tons of people who jailbreak their phones don't know whaat apt is
half walrus
not really that sad
gentle grove
apt adjective (SUITABLE)
suitable or right for a particular situation:
half walrus
why would they need to know about that
tepid olive
sudo launchctl unload /System/Library/LaunchDaemons go brrr
do they have a reason not to?
lethal ice
why would they need to know about that
its simple shit, obviously everybody on the planet should know
gentle grove
Advanced Package Tool, or APT, is a free-software user interface that works with core libraries to handle the installation and removal of software on Debian, Ubuntu, and related Linux distributions. APT simplifies the process of managing software on Unix-like computer systems by automating the retrieval, configuration and installation of software packages, either from precompiled files or by compiling source code.
half walrus
why
lethal ice
half walrus
its a package manager for some random fork of linux
half walrus
why should 99% of iphone users need to know what it is
tepid olive
debian isnt a fork of linux
half walrus
it is for this example
gentle grove
Spoon
half walrus
sorry, "distro"
gentle grove
it's a fucking spoon
tepid olive
I didn't know you meant distro
and I'm not saying "99% of iphone users need to know what it is", I'm saying people who jailbreak should, it is a vital part of a jailbroken phone
lethal ice
it really doesn't need to be
nobody uses a terminal
thats why package managers exist is to people dont have to care or worry or even know of apt
lethal ice
im talking about gui package managers, this isn't 1980 bruh
lethal ice
front end has nothing to do with failing its just badly written code
tepid olive
tepid olive
front end has nothing to do with failing its just badly written code
but the frontend has the bad written code
lethal ice
thats what i said
tepid olive
I'm saying frontend's can't be trusted to work reliably
half walrus
he's saying everyone should use commandline apt instead of guis
gentle grove
everyone should play Pac-Man when you want to install packages
tepid olive
I'm saying people shouldnt fully rely on guis to the point they doont even know what a command line is
gentle grove
I'm saying people shouldnt fully rely on guis to the point they doont even know ...
True
But it is what it is
A lot of people don't care
half walrus
and why should they
gentle grove
Don't know if that's good or bad
tepid olive
ok
half walrus
should everyone who plays minecraft know java
tepid olive
that is fundamentally different
lethal ice
every windows user should be able to use command prompt obviously
gentle grove
I don't drink coffee sorry
tepid olive
ok, I don't want to continue this, im going to go back to work
gentle grove
keep nvim
lethal ice
why cant terminals just die already
gentle grove
toss the rest
half walrus
because people need to feel superior by using them
gentle grove
Emacs can die on a fire
half walrus
i had a guy try to explain to me why not using a mouse was better
gentle grove
It hurts
tepid olive
How does a terminal give superiority?
gentle grove
I just like nvim because it feels very comfortable to edit in
tepid olive
same, im comfortable in it
tepid olive
and way faster than when i try to use a different editor
lethal ice
half walrus
i use nano for small files and vim for big bois
lethal ice
and way faster than when i try to use a different editor
why not apply this logic to gui package managers
half walrus
apt is faster if you learn it
just like vi is faster if you learn it
but most people dont have the time or interest to learn it
and that's why we make guis
tepid olive
Wdym? apt search and apt install are faster
lethal ice
idk its just not intuitive to memorize and type out commands when you could have an interactive interface to do it all for you
half walrus
yep
tepid olive
Most commands I use often such as xbps and apt are simple syntax or in my history
half walrus
99% of vi/nano is memorizing keyboard shortcuts which is not my nor most other people's cup of tea
gentle grove
It sorta becomes muscle memory not memorization
lethal ice
my extend of apt knowledge is how to install, remove, and upgrade packages and that's all i have ever needed, but if im gonna install a package im opening up cydia
tepid olive
That's what you need for apt
half walrus
i also know apt-get update 
because you have to do it on corellium phones
for some reason
lethal ice
rip
lethal ice
apt-get dist-upgrade 
tepid olive
gentle grove
what's that
gentle grove
Hm
tepid olive
It's for going from Debian 9 to 10, or such
You switch your sources.list then dist-upgrade iirc
gentle grove
Debra Ian
tepid olive
since upgrade doesnt always
Yeah, upgrade will avoid packages that require removals, dist-upgrade won't
tepid olive
RIP ian 😔
gentle grove
What happen
tepid olive
He commited suicide
gentle grove
Wtf
tepid olive
Ian Murdock
faint timber
rip chase
tepid olive
He was accused of assaulting a police officer
faint timber
chase also committed suicide
tepid olive
Chase who?
tepid olive
Ah
gentle grove
Who's corpse