development

[tepid olive]

Can you even copyright an emoji?

wtf

[restive ether]

For example, Apple has a copyright on the set of emoji representations that they use on their iPhone operating systems and can certainly use their extensive legal team to bar others from using their particular designs in commercial applications

legally complicated by as is yes

[tepid olive]

🙂☹️💜😺

rip that doesn't work]

[tepid olive]

Do you think apple would be a-hole enough to actually too?

[restive ether]

they already have

you’d have to be really out there to get a cease and desist over it though

[tepid olive]

🙂☹️💜😺

wtf how

nfr

[west grove]

I'm curious as to if anyone has ever gotten this before

because its annoying

[tepid olive]

Nintendo would gladly, no matter how small you are, they c&d a charity for etica once.

[restive ether]

nintendo is the worst

why must they make good products i cannot resist

[tepid olive]

The switch is debatable about good, the joycons are trash and the online uses peer to peer (they charges us for peer to peer :/)

[restive ether]

switch is great, but i would never use the multiplayer lol

and the joycons are fine besides the dead zone

then the drifting

[tepid olive]

I honestly liked the 3ds better, it had a lot more customization (like themes), online had servers, local with friends didn't lag (local games from switch to switch can have lag), the controls didn't break unlike the joycons, the charging port was at the top (nintendo for some reason put the switch one on the bottom, what a stupid idea) and so on.

[tepid olive]

Apple even rejects apps on the App Store that use emoji as part of the UI

if you use their own emoji font that is

if you use some open source emoji font it's fine

Apple emoji font is only allowed if the user types it

and messages from other users in a chat app ofc

[burnt niche]

I get app notification with so many emojis all the time

[peak quartz]

Question - what will be the best approach if I have a view on the lockscreen (part of the stackview) and I want to have this view pop-out anywhere from the top part of the screen by using activator actions? I am asking design-wise since I know how to code this. assume that this view has functions in it, such as showing some menu and open other apps

I was thinking of creating a new instance of this view but I am not sure this will be the best approach

[burnt niche]

When you say creating a “new instance of this view”

Wym

[peak quartz]

after respring, in viewDidLoad the lockscreen view is allocated and pushed to the stackview. in order to have that view pop-out anywhere, I am thinking of allocating new instance of this view to show it anywhere using activator gestures

is that acceptable?

or any other efficient way exists?

[grim sparrow]

enough

[grim sparrow]

yes I have

[west grove]

hmm

[grim sparrow]

have you modified any headers

[west grove]

nope

a fresh install of xcode

[grim sparrow]

I've only got it when I've used a patched sdk

It'll say in the log which file it failed to build

you could also just try clearing derived data and co

[west grove]

I may just end up doing it in swift

[burnt niche]

I am not sure if thats the best way. I think you should make a new class with a superclass of uiview where you should add ur functions and integrate your activator gestures(never done it so not really sure) and add the new class as a property to the lockscreen class and make it appear on top of the lockscreen view

[west grove]

instead of c

[grim sparrow]

good boy

[burnt niche]

Thats the way i would approach it. Might be a bad approach. @peak quartz

[peak quartz]

that was my second option and now that you've written it down it sounds nicer than in my head

[burnt niche]

You could even make a uiviewcontroller class. Not sure what would be the best approach. One person that could tell you is dgh0st.

But yea i feel like that would be a better approach than what you were going to attempt

[peak quartz]

maybe to subclass my main view will be the way to go?

[burnt niche]

Subclass ur mainview as in the lockscreen view*

[peak quartz]

yes

lockscreenview: uiview, alteredlockscreenview: lockscreenview

[burnt niche]

No that would not be nessecary. You want to be a subview to that view

In lockscreenview. What are the subviews inheriting from?

[peak quartz]

there are no subviews, the lockscreenview is built out of blurrefffect and collection view

which are the subviews i guess

[burnt niche]

Okay wait a second

Name of the class?

[peak quartz]

which one?

[burnt niche]

The lockscreenview

[peak quartz]

the one i created?

[burnt niche]

No

The one that exists

[peak quartz]

i hook CSNotificationAdjunctListViewController

then add my created view into stackview

[burnt niche]

You would just add a normal uiview

Not sure if thats a good class to hook. No idea what ur doing though

Actually that class is perfect to hook @peak quartz .

[west grove]

lmao this project only has 1 file in c

lol

[burnt niche]

https://github.com/LacertosusRepo/Open-Source-Tweaks/tree/master/Libellum here is a tweak that does exactly what you are doing to that class @peak quartz except no activator

Just like i told you ^

So create your own view. That source code should help you.

[tepid olive]

note to self: kDRMNeedsDeviceCertificate

[burnt niche]

Boritoz

Good morning

[tepid olive]

why is this ida database 2gb

gm

[burnt niche]

How long did that take ida?

[tepid olive]

30mb executable -> 2gb of files

[burnt niche]

Ida was struggling when i put uikitcore in it

[tepid olive]

didnt take too long tbh

small executable

[tardy narwhal]

@burnt niche would you like to do me a small favor

[burnt niche]

Yessir

[tepid olive]

i think my ida froze and died

nah its still tryna search

[tardy narwhal]

make any arbitrary swift app, doesn’t need to be fleshed out or anything. Just a class with like ~5 methods in a class.
Make one method of those 5 crash the app, idc how you make it crash

compile non-debug/ strip symbols and shoot the binary over alongside original code

I think I found another way to find arbitrary symbols

[tepid olive]

ofc these idiots use security.framework

security is funny

[burnt niche]

I know someone in here did cod mobile and it took them a whole day.

[tardy narwhal]

rip shmoo lmao

[tepid olive]

yes

[burnt niche]

Can i make those methods in the view controller and just make one of them crash the app?

[tardy narwhal]

sure, up to you. doesn’t even need a UI

[burnt niche]

Okay this is the easiest job anyone has ever given me

[tardy narwhal]

just needs to have methods I can call and return / log some string and 1 explicity crashing

don’t prefix anything with @objc doe

[tepid olive]

ok ida is shitting itself

rip

[burnt niche]

I wont. Im just gonna make a simple blank app with 5 methods.

[tepid olive]

qwerty's old writeups are so good

[tardy narwhal]

ty, make sure to strip symbols/ compile non-debug

[tepid olive]

i wonder why he removed them

[burnt niche]

Im gonna make the deployment to 13.0 minimum

Is that fine?

[tardy narwhal]

yeet

arch doesn’t matter because i can hook swift on either

[tepid olive]

why the fuck can't you collapse functions, if/else and structs in Xcode

[wicked summit]

what about a macOS app to make preference panes

[tardy narwhal]

if you cannot make prefs I think you have a bigger problem at hand lmao

But make it though

[wicked summit]

I can make prefs 😐

[tardy narwhal]

don’t limit it to macos though

[wicked summit]

no

[tepid olive]

urgh to use MPMediaPlayer i need iOS or Catalyst

fuck

why the fuck does Catalyst allow it but not stock macOS

[lapis vessel]

because Catalyst is essentially iOS and MPMediaPlayer is an iOS thing

every iOS thing is supported on Catalyst and not stock macOS

[tepid olive]

yea ik, just weird they don't add it

[burnt niche]

@tardy narwhal im done im eating rn ill send the zip once im done eating

The app crashes soon as you open it

[lapis vessel]

wait wtf is MPMediaPlayer?

that doesn't exist

[tepid olive]

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/mediaplayer

[lapis vessel]

oh you mean MediaPlayer.framework?

[tepid olive]

yes

it's MPMediaItem i'm dumb

wait no

it is MPMediaPlayer

[lapis vessel]

there's literally no such thing as MPMediaPlayer wdym?

[tepid olive]

everybody calls the MPMediaItem stuff MPMediaPlayer

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[misty cradle]

I am genius

[tepid olive]

true

[lapis vessel]

genius, have you heard of MPMediaPlayer before?

@tepid olive I think the reason macos doesn't have MPMediaItem and family is because it doesn't have a "media library" available to all applications in the same way iOS does

or does it?

idk I don't use macos

[misty cradle]

genius, have you heard of MPMediaPlayer before?
@lapis vessel something like it I think yes

[tepid olive]

well Catalyst MediaPlayer works the same as iOS

[lapis vessel]

(there's no such thing)

[tepid olive]

so idek why they wouldn't

[misty cradle]

Something like MPMedia but no player no

[tepid olive]

MPMusicPlayer or smthin

[misty cradle]

I only know of MPMusicItem

[tepid olive]

idk i just call it MPMediaPlayer like everyone

[misty cradle]

No one calls it MPMediaPlayer

[lapis vessel]

^

but what's in MPMediaLibrary on macos then?

[tepid olive]

every search i've done that's what i've read

[lapis vessel]

does macos have a media library?

[tepid olive]

just stock apple music ig

[lapis vessel]

macos still has AVPlayer and friends, what are you trying to achieve?

[misty cradle]

^

[tepid olive]

ehh it's really not as good, you can't use the existing Apple Music library

[wicked summit]

AVPlayer and friends

I don’t need friends

I have AVPlayer

[misty cradle]

[tepid olive]

[lapis vessel]

but I don't really think apple wants to allow (or at least not encourage) apps to use the apple music library on macos

which is why MPMediaLibrary isn't available

[tepid olive]

otherwise you have to use the API, which isn't great lol

i'd rather use MPMediaLibrary than the Apple Music API

(and i'd rather not spend 100$ for a dev account)

[misty cradle]

[restive ether]

me when i can’t sync my music apparently on 13

[burnt niche]

@tardy narwhal i have the app but no idea how to "strip symbols/ compile non-debug"

so strip debug symbols doing copy?

no idea ill just send him the xcode project so he can do it

[surreal mountain]

not that

[tepid olive]

gonna give mDNSResponder another shot

[surreal mountain]

true

gm kabir

hru

[nimble parcel]

Profiling has a different purpose

gm @surreal mountain

[nimble parcel]

product > archive is the one you want

[surreal mountain]

true true

wtf helpfulness in #development

[tepid olive]

anyone gotten mDNSResponder to work on linux?

how

how

LOL server got shit on

admin decided to nuke

[pearl sail]

tri using Linux is the real takeaway from this

[tepid olive]

i would send a screenshot but it’s all n word

[misty cradle]

[pearl sail]

Not you

I said tri

[misty cradle]

yes i asked who

[tepid olive]

oh

loss

[grim sparrow]

[misty cradle]

not if you meant me

[grim sparrow]

[pearl sail]

@vivid dew

That is who

[tepid olive]

if that server dies where else can i be racist

oh no

[grim sparrow]

Tri != Tr1

[tepid olive]

[grim sparrow]

you live in America, just go outside

[tepid olive]

okni

[pearl sail]

exactly

[tepid olive]

:okni:

moving to america now

[pearl sail]

I really didn’t think you did. Honestly good looks

[tepid olive]

im gonna murder you

[cloud sundial]

@vivid dew tf is that name

[tepid olive]

2021 is the year of the Procursus desktop

Stop stealing my jokes

[gaunt mesa]

stfu

[tepid olive]

stfu

@gaunt mesa where did you ski in Ontario
all my friends say the hills are really small lol

[pearl sail]

murder me after testing libboost

also after I PR it

[lime pivot]

oof

[grim sparrow]

[lime pivot]

I think it’s because iPod was a core pillar of iPhone but iTunes is just another app on macOS. the way you use the media library on macOS is by AppleScripting iTunes/Music, or reading the xml library file (no longer possible with the new Music app because Apple hates everyone)

[lapis vessel]

Thank you

Also sorry I haven't tested out the swift demangling yet, I'm not jailbroken atm so I'd have to dig out an old test device

[lime pivot]

oh hah no stress, I forgot about it myself

I’ll eventually just try it myself

[lapis vessel]

👍

[tepid olive]

my usb-c lightning cable worked once for DFU, now it wont work

[lime pivot]

😬 I’ve never ever ever had it work

you got very lucky

[tepid olive]

yeah

[lime pivot]

sometimes takes me like 5 tries before I realise oh fuck I am pressing the keys right, I’m just using the USB-C cable

[tepid olive]

[burnt niche]

in Australia there are 48 million Kangaroos and in Uruguay there are 3,457,380 inhabitants. So if the Kangaroos decide to invade Uruguay, each Uruguayan will have to fight 14 kangaroos.

[tepid olive]

usb c cable is annoying

i had to pay $80 for a shitty adapter

only then can i put my phone in dfu

[lime pivot]

$80? what the fuck did you buy

I got a pack of them for like $5 on Amazon

so probably $0.000001 USD

[lime pivot]

I’m just wondering how exactly this situation would happen

we do have an insane overpopulation of kangaroos

yet I’ve seen about 1 in my life outside of a zoo

[burnt niche]

Just a fun fact

[tepid olive]

NAME        USED  AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT
zroot/home  494G  936K  145G  /home

oh god, oh fuck

[half walrus]

united states military

• aus kangaroos

[burnt niche]

Rip

[half walrus]

• idk like 50 million dollars funding

and i think we could manage something

[lime pivot]

tbh you guys could save a ton of military spending by simply importing a few million of our kangaroos

[burnt niche]

I think the kangaroos alone are enough to take out kim jung un

[half walrus]

kirb it wouldn't save any money

the money doesnt go to the military it goes to embezzling

[lime pivot]

jokes on you it was going to fail anyway I’ve heard it grinding for the past month

[half walrus]

when ur ssds start making noise

[burnt niche]

Lets spend a billion on wars but leave the homeless on the streets

[lime pivot]

ah yeah my bad I forgot the corruption bit

easy mistake to make

[half walrus]

mm american experience is laying down for a nap and waking up to "hey x just died of covid"

[tepid olive]

TFW you have a 100GB snapshot

[lime pivot]

Larry King 😕

[half walrus]

was my childhood friend's dad

[burnt niche]

They are still trying to impeach trump so he can never be president ever again. First time in the US history

[lime pivot]

what a country

[half walrus]

first time a president tried to incite an invasion of the US capitol to halt an election so

seems appropriate

[burnt niche]

Lmao true.

History in the making

[half walrus]

i should clarify, my childhood friends dad is not larry king

however they are in fact dead also

i can't attest to any relation between the deaths

[lime pivot]

I mean the first impeachment came with a warning that if he gets away with treason once he will do it again

it’s scary that it was vaguely predicted even a year ago

[half walrus]

republicans, fi they do try, want to impeach so he can't run again

because if he does he'll run as a spoiler to the republican party

and split the GOP base's vote

[lime pivot]

I have fond (?) memories of being in a New York hotel room turning on the TV to cspan to see the vote live

[half walrus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_(United_States,_1912)#:~:text=The Progressive Party (often%20referred,incumbent%20president%20William%20Howard%20Taft.

never seen a US election the entire world was so invested in

a la 2016 one

and maybe even moreso 2020

[lime pivot]

back when you could travel AND when there was a glimmer of hope to get the country back on track

how very different covid could have been if the conviction went through

[half walrus]

the first impeachment yeah

pence was

very conservative, but not idiotic

[lime pivot]

wouldn’t have made dumb statements and then doubled tripled down on them to avoid having to admit he was wrong and is unqualified to discuss the subject

[half walrus]

feel like if he were president we might not be looking at 500000 dead americans

i remember when 1k cases a day was scary

now we're at 3.7k deaths a day

[restive ether]

Susan Collins disagrees

[lime pivot]

it still would have been bad, but I feel like even after the initial CDC testing kit fuckup where it didn’t work for weeks, the number could have sat somewhere that still felt terrible but at least comfortable

see: Australia

[half walrus]

just dont know how they got away with gutting the CDC beforehand

[restive ether]

would’ve been so easy to win re-election...

[lime pivot]

Europe were dumbasses, still allowing free travel

[half walrus]

yyep

[restive ether]

he really threw it away

[half walrus]

easily been reelected if the democrats didn't have the tagline "four hundred thousand dead americans"

[lime pivot]

my cousin is in London and travelled across Europe last year

like why

[restive ether]

it’s even worse when most of those dead were probably your own voter base...

[lime pivot]

idk enjoy yourself you’re kinda stuck in another country, but maybe not like that?

[restive ether]

the number in georgia alone would’ve made the race way closer

[lime pivot]

it’s just another example of being dangerously unqualified

[restive ether]

we did it to ourselves

it was obvious in 2016

we all fell for him

i did too

[lime pivot]

not even qualified enough to keep his base from not fucking dying so they could vote him in for another 4 years

[restive ether]

this is now the second time a high profile person became a politician and ruined us

[burnt niche]

@twilit jungle reading my source code on github

[pearl sail]

I am still in shocked that Biden legit won cause of Clyburn lol

[restive ether]

the writing was on the wall for trump in the summer

[pearl sail]

That is man is a kingmaker

[restive ether]

it got even more obvious after the debates

when one guy has a plan and the other guy is just yelling nonsense

then yeah

[pearl sail]

Nah I mean the DNC nomination not the presidential race

[restive ether]

Biden was the obvious choice back then

he was the only one who could possibly get republicans

[pearl sail]

It is not that he wasn't the obvious choice

[restive ether]

as far as an easy to digest candidate for nearly everyone on the political spectrum

bernie is still considered too out there

the rest were meh

[half walrus]

at least biden is giving us rights back woo

[restive ether]

giving trans people back within a week

[half walrus]

trump's last action in office was to make me ineligable for welfare and government funded homeless shelters

thanks trump

[restive ether]

did he reverse those last second actions

[half walrus]

no idea yet

its only been 3 days so ima be patient

[lime pivot]

just remember

Trump has to live the rest of his life knowing a dude who told him to shut up on national tv got to take his job

well not just "a dude"

[pearl sail]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/01/jim-clyburn-joe-biden-old-president-generation/617761/ @restive ether This is a good article on what I mean

[lime pivot]

an actual politician

helps to have that qualification hey

[pearl sail]

Clyburn legit saved Biden

We would probably have Bernie as the DNC candidate if not for him tbh

[restive ether]

clyburn undoubtedly pushed him to the nom but i think it would’ve happened regardless

he’s simply more marketable then bernie

i didn’t particularly mind him getting to either because no matter what i know his cabinet and advisor will be stacked

[pearl sail]

Nah look at the DNC race before Clyburn's backing and then look at it after

It would've definitely gone a different way for sure

Bernie was basically topping most polls at that point

[restive ether]

idk man no one was particular excited to vote for joe

[pearl sail]

Exactly

[restive ether]

minority voter turnout drove the election

and you can mostly thank local leadership for that

[pearl sail]

That was mostly due to people like Stacy Abrams

and she didn't get a cabinet position for it

[restive ether]

she didn’t want one

[pearl sail]

Georgia got handed to Biden on a silver platter just cause of her

[restive ether]

rumor has it she was asked

[lime pivot]

it feels like bernie could have been an easy win this time around

[restive ether]

most likely is going to make a run for governor

[lime pivot]

of course very hard to tell that in advance, and it likely would have been an even tighter win

[restive ether]

the issue is bernie isnt marketable to a right leaning centrist crowd

and he still gets the trigger words like socialist

but also the never trump crowd was bigger than ever so

[lime pivot]

I don't think he'll run ever again at his age… why bother running in 2024 when Joe can have a second term

[pearl sail]

Yeah but there are enough desperate people due to pandemic that Bernie would probably would have gotten them to the polls

[restive ether]

i don’t see joe running again

4 years at his age is debilitating

[lime pivot]

that brings us to 2028 and he'll be 87

[restive ether]

bernie’s agenda would never go through though

biden’s might not even

[pearl sail]

The DNC will always shoot Bernie in the kneecaps just cause they don't think he as marketable like Cameren says

[lime pivot]

cameren for president 2024

[restive ether]

if i wasn’t so socially awkward i would love to run for public office

lol

new york is so easy

all these upstate politicians are 😴😴😴

they’re comfortable establishment to the max

[lime pivot]

well as time goes on, Bernie will be less and less favorable due to age

it's crazy that Biden got in at his age, but the alternative was another almost as old guy who's proven to be a complete disaster for the country

[restive ether]

his younger generation will just replace him and use his ideals

[pearl sail]

The representative from the bronx is real down to earth I can see him try to be a president in the future @restive ether

Richie something

[restive ether]

oh i thought you were talking about Alexandria

[pearl sail]

Nah they already made AOC the next Bernie

[restive ether]

the congressional districts in NYC are so fucking stupid

[pearl sail]

she won't get farther cause of the DNC

[restive ether]

look at AOC’s district

the dems will split soon

[lime pivot]

I slightly get the feeling that she wants to run for president sometime soon

[restive ether]

the progressives are not passive in political ambition

they can only deal with DNC garbage for so long

[restive ether]

she’s gonna try to take my senators seat soon

[lime pivot]

it feels like in her current position she's not able to do as much as she wants to

[restive ether]

he’s terrified

i can tell

[pearl sail]

If both Democrats and Republicans split I will cheer

[restive ether]

chuck has been getting progressively more progressive since she’s been around

chuck schumer and kristen gillibrand 🤮🤮🤮

hate them both

hate voting for them

[pearl sail]

Same how I felt giving Swawell another term

[restive ether]

that’s what happens when the alternative is significantly worse

[pearl sail]

The illusion of choice lol

[restive ether]

like i don’t wanna give Andrew Cuomo another term but what choice do i have?

fucking Cynthia Nixon?

[lime pivot]

I barely follow NY news but I hate Cuomo's voice

[restive ether]

which one

the governor or the cnn news anchor lol

[lime pivot]

lmao

the one that was just mentioned

TIL there's another Cuomo

[restive ether]

yes

prime time news anchor

[pearl sail]

Pretty sure NY hates them both

[restive ether]

it’s his brother

i don’t mind Chris

[lime pivot]

TBF there's like this handful of 50 Italian-American names that everyone seems to have

[pearl sail]

true

NY has the most Italians anyways

[restive ether]

we also have the most jews outside Israel

[lime pivot]

Chris Cuomo is the brother of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo
ok it's not a coincidence then lmao

[restive ether]

nope

he interviews him on CNN like once a month

not really an interview

more like

“what’s mom making for dinner”

[pearl sail]

[restive ether]

i’m serious

[pearl sail]

or they argue

[restive ether]

last time they were literally talking about saturday dinner

[lime pivot]

I can't see why interviewing your own brother and calling it journalism is a good idea

[pearl sail]

It isn't

[restive ether]

i don’t think he’s considered a journalist

more of an opinion host

[lime pivot]

ah, yes, I forgot American news is filled with "entertainers" not journalists

[restive ether]

i wish laws made it so news orgs had to specify when opinion segments were on

[lime pivot]

not just Fox News

[restive ether]

do other countries do that

[pearl sail]

I don't consider anyone at CNN who is a news anchor a journalist

They just give their opinions

[restive ether]

the difference is fox is more egregious about research

CNN tries to some extent

i’m convinced fox doesn’t even read the articles or stats they use

[pearl sail]

Fox research is just a monkey at a type writer

[lime pivot]

tfw you base an entire news network on only reading the headline

[pearl sail]

sometimes the monkey just smears the paper with shit and they run it

[restive ether]

tfw people say Fox is for liberals and democrats now

can’t wait to watch Tucker Carlson and vote for Bernie tonight

[grim sparrow]

Having to make a cron task to restart my pm2 task every 3 hours instead of just fixing the timeout bug

[pearl sail]

cron task are so useful

I will say that

[grim sparrow]

I can either wait 3 hours and check the log, or just restart every 3 hours

[pearl sail]

never used it in a practical way

[lime pivot]

most of the news format in the US just doesn't exist elsewhere I'm pretty sure

[restive ether]

understandable

[lime pivot]

there's no intermixing of panel discussions and shit like that

[restive ether]

Mr. Steve Jobs made me realize the news is basically formatted like the fucking Super Bowl

[lime pivot]

and there's zero round-the-clock news channels aside from ABC News 24 (ABC = taxpayer funded)

[pearl sail]

India News is just news caster trying to prevent a full on fight from happening on their show

[restive ether]

americans can’t handle news unless it’s formatted like a sporting event lol

[restive ether]

i generally just try to stay with AP, Axios & Bloomberg

they’re basically as factually centrist as you can get

[pearl sail]

I stick to AP and Axios

[restive ether]

i got into Axios because of that hilarious Trump interview

[pearl sail]

Bloomberg is icky but aite sometimes

[pearl sail]

They run a lot of great pieces

[restive ether]

i’m not a fan of funding something with the name Bloomberg but they give good news

[lime pivot]

also if you want opinion you probably end up watching a late morning show that's clearly purely opinion and not a current affairs show

aka if you have nothing else useful to do in life because everyone has left home to do their job by then

in case you ever wonder why it seems like rednecks/lazy/unemployed/etc seem to become radicalised the most… look no further than them literally having nothing useful to do in their downtime except consume daytime TV/facebook/etc

[restive ether]

are Aussie opinion shows only on around that time?

[lime pivot]

I've never come across any run later in the day honestly

daytime TV is really really just padding for time until 5 PM rolls around, you can tell

[restive ether]

understandable

running opinion shows during prime time is honestly so shitty lol

[lime pivot]

cheap content cause they're probably the lowest priced for advertising

[restive ether]

heh so are fox shows now that all their advertisers are running for the hills

[lime pivot]

just pay a little bit to set up a decent set with a desk and a few chairs, pay some people to sit at those chairs for an hour and read the script and occasionally insert an opinion

so cheap to produce

[lime pivot]

which feels like it's only going to get worse

got to push even harder to win some viewership back

[restive ether]

viewership is only going to go down for all of them

Fox, newsmax, OAN

their guy isn’t in anymore

left leaning viewership is always consistent

right is not

[lime pivot]

oh yeah, they got a great 4 years in for sure

[pearl sail]

@tepid olive aite I will let you murder me

that PR took too long

[restive ether]

they’ll get it back in 8

[lime pivot]

I wonder if the rise and fall of Fox News is specifically something Trump enabled, or if it was just the natural progression of a fairly young (1996) conservative news network that managed to talk up a wave of new republican supporters while democrats were in for 8 years

[restive ether]

i think the GOP damaged themselves too much to win next election no matter who runs

it’ll be even more true if donald goes off with his own party

or some party of his ideology comes about

[restive ether]

conservative news doesn’t work in the US tbh, a majority of the US just isn’t down with most of the garbage fox is pushing

[lime pivot]

it doesn't feel that way at least from the outside though

it surprises me how tight the elections can be and that it can be barely a few million votes apart deciding the winner

but I guess both sides come off as very flawed and corrupt and biased against one group or another so it can be hard to even decide

[restive ether]

the issue is voter turnout

[lime pivot]

just vote the way everyone around you is voting

[restive ether]

like voting laws in the US are so bad lol

it’s very clear why they are the way they are

[lime pivot]

there's a fine of like $90 or something here if you don't vote and don't have a good excuse

18+ must be enrolled to vote

[restive ether]

that’s how it should be

voter registration should be automatic

[lime pivot]

voter turnout in the mid-high 90%s

[restive ether]

republicans complain about ID laws but then won’t make IDs free to have lol

and then wonder why we had to make some states go without verification

also yeah that whole two party system does not making voting very engaging

[lime pivot]

like I half think you shouldn't need to vote if you don't feel you have an informed opinion or in protest or whatever (the same reasons registered American voters don't vote), but also that making it totally ok to just skip voting in elections means you don't get the country's actual opinions on the candidates

[restive ether]

they should really add a no vote box instead of just skipping over the question entirely

[lime pivot]

kinda like how news polls phone up 1000 people and then publish it saying obviously that's representative of the entire country

[restive ether]

i think having that as a statistic is more representative

yeah that worked out well in 2016

but tbf it’s probably true in real world value but not in practice when your turnout rate is that low

[lime pivot]

maybe if you called 1000 people from each state? but not 1000 people in a country of 300+ mill

[restive ether]

when one side can rally the troops and the other can’t you end up with 2016

[lime pivot]

of course, last minute leaks and investigations into both sides didn't help that one

I feel like inexperience with how Trump is manipulative, plus actual concern after the DNC leaks and FBI investigations opening and shutting illegally ensured his win

[restive ether]

the DNC leaks didn’t even matter lol

you can’t rig the primaries

they aren’t legally binding

Bernie could win by hundreds of votes and they could still pick Hillary

[lime pivot]

I could imagine if covid didn't happen and show how badly he can fuck over the country by acting slowly or not at all, he would have either won or lost by a much tighter margin

[restive ether]

i know it reflects badly though

[lime pivot]

of course they're never gonna tell you they overrode popular vote and selected Hillary

are those numbers even published?

[restive ether]

uh

well it’s more or less televised so i assume yes

[lime pivot]

ok they are

55.23% of popular vote over Bernie 43.13%

[tepid olive]

diversity gets votes

whether that means a woman, or a person of color as running mate/candidate

[lime pivot]

does it?

I thought the trend was the US is very opposed to anything but a white man with a white-sounding name

[restive ether]

because it is

diversity only wins votes on twitter lol

minorities are still going to vote for the old white huh

because they don’t have a choice

[lime pivot]

Obama seems to be the only exception, along with Kamala for VP but I don't think you can consider the 2020 election to be voted based on identity, moreso being Not Trump

[tepid olive]

idk, biden used it as a campaign promise to have a colored VP, i’m assuming there was at least a bit of strategy there

if not then

[restive ether]

he wanted a representative team

[tepid olive]

that’s a more accurate statement

[restive ether]

like a native american for the interior is amazing

those are people who properly respect land

(except the ones who run casinos)

[tepid olive]

fr colored coal color

[restive ether]

your mom for my bed

[lime pivot]

that implies it didn't already happen

[restive ether]

senate rules make me wanna kms

[lime pivot]

also, if this were true, Hillary should have won 2016 by a larger margin

which I bet could have given her a majority of the EC votes

[restive ether]

even white woman didn’t care enough for hillary

as a whole*

she was not convincing to any swing voter

she was barely convincing to what should’ve been her base

[lime pivot]

I definitely didn't feel like she was convincing

[restive ether]

a lot of people were still stuck on bernie and the fact he got snubbed

[lime pivot]

and she was fighting against Trump stealing the show big time with the "wait this guy can't possibly be president?? wtf he's so controversial omg"

[restive ether]

a lot of her actions sounded forced

like with biden i feel like his inclusions were sincere

hillary not so much

[lime pivot]

I think she also came off like she was just gonna be more of the same from Obama considering she worked under him as secretary of state

which in all fairness isn't even the worst platform to run on

you liked the past 8 years right? why not more of the same?

I just learned Kamala's dad is Donald J. Harris

that's an unfortunate name

[wicked summit]

is there any documentation or a good explanation of Cydia repositories and what files are needed for package managers to understand your site as a repo?

I want to try making an extremely bare bones repo

[lime pivot]

for extremely barebones you would just need Packages.bz2

[wicked summit]

oh that’s it?

[lime pivot]

actually can get away without Release

[restive ether]

package everything as zstd

[lime pivot]

you shouldn't, but you can

[wicked summit]

ok

I wanna do what I should do

but no more

Is there any official guide anywhere?

[lime pivot]

Cydia still tries to probe for Packages.bz2 pretty sure, so you need that

I think I do have zstd on chariz though

[restive ether]

as in sam’s cydia?

pretty sure hayden made the installer work with zstd

[lime pivot]

yeah, that's just never been changed since ~2009

[restive ether]

understandable

[lime pivot]

I mean the thing that checks if the url is actually a repo before adding it

[wicked summit]

and anything that works for cydia will work w Sileo zebra and installer?

Or are they totally different?

[tepid olive]

They are all apt repos

[lime pivot]

APT itself will read Packages.xz --> lzma --> bz2 --> gz in that order

[tepid olive]

Follow apt conventions and it works

[wicked summit]

Ok so pog

Gracias

[lime pivot]

very poggers

[tepid olive]

iirc procursus apt will read .zst too

[lime pivot]

I said that

we're talking about elu apt

[tepid olive]

Oh

Sorry

[lime pivot]

yeah all the same, it's all pretty simple, there really isn't that much to it

you'd probably spend more time building depictions that look nice to you

[restive ether]

i wish more 3rd party repos got into native depictions

[wicked summit]

fuck depictions

[restive ether]

they’re so much nicer

[wicked summit]

[lime pivot]

I'll gladly remove native depictions if I ever can

[tepid olive]

Cydia and zebra don't need Release, not sure about installer and sileo. Although when gpg is added to zebra they will require a release

[lime pivot]

yeah, gpg signing requires Release (since well, what you're signing is Release)

[tepid olive]

@wicked summit https://cameronkatri.com/Update.sh and https://cameronkatri.com/release.conf that's what I use to generate my repo

[lime pivot]

https://repo.chariz.com/Packages.zst proudly probably the only repo other than pro using zstd 😁

[tepid olive]

I use zst

Do you have a Contents though?

[lime pivot]

lol, um, oops?

[wicked summit]

@tepid olive whats your repo link?

[restive ether]

eta dynastic fixes downloading from their repo

[tepid olive]

https://cameronkatri.com

[lime pivot]

zstd -9 is actually larger than xz -9e

and even… bz2

[tepid olive]

zstd is more about speed

But you can do -22 or something like that

[lime pivot]

I think I bruteforce tried a whole bunch of flag combinations and -9 was the best for some reason

[restive ether]

shoutout the void maintainers @tepid olive

[lime pivot]

best in output size I mean

and I think I was trying to balance out compression/decompression performance but I don't remember

[tepid olive]

Fuck them, although tbf Debian hasn't merged it yet so it is kinda understood

[restive ether]

they could’ve said it nicer

but they were dicks about it

[tepid olive]

Above -9 was behind the ultra flag before, but recently that got changed

[lime pivot]

xz and lzma are definitely slow to decompress especially when you push up the compression ratio

so I can accept the compromise of slightly larger transfer for faster decompress, I think

but I still feel like reducing bytes sent over the wire is the bigger win, maybe one day the file will be like 40x the size and zstd actually makes a difference to refresh times, but I'd be more concerned with repo refreshes having higher chance of failure for every extra byte you have to download

even then the influence of Chariz on your refresh times is next to nothing compared to Packix and BigBoss 😬

[tepid olive]

[lime pivot]

if BigBoss would add lzma and Packix would add zstd we might see refresh times go way down

[tepid olive]

Do you want chariz to stay small?

[lime pivot]

it's definitely not intended to be as unwieldy to browse as BigBoss/Packix

[tepid olive]

[restive ether]

quality packages only type beat

[lime pivot]

^^^^^

at the moment you can totally just tap Chariz in your package manager and browse that list

[tepid olive]

You won't allow a 32 bit static ffmpeg like bb does?

[restive ether]

lol

[tepid olive]

Which I've done

[lime pivot]

when most of the current tweaks stop supporting the latest OS we might be in a bit of a different situation, not sure how to approach it just yet honestly

[restive ether]

packix zstd sounds doable

[lime pivot]

saurik famously says filtering packages by compatibility is bad UX

[tepid olive]

chariz legacy repo

[restive ether]

BB lzma def not

[lime pivot]

although I like to think you can at least work around it via googling the tweak --> tap chariz.com result --> tap open

then I can install ios13.chariz.com or something

[restive ether]

andy still hasn’t updated his depictions though so

[lime pivot]

UX issue avoided… kinda

at least the troubleshooting is straightforward, just got to make sure people do that instead of resorting immediately to emailing us for deleting their purchases

[tepid olive]

I still gotta design the suite components specifying ui for zebra

[lime pivot]

also doesn't help I can't set up some kind of "noticeboard", Sileo almost could do it but they only permit displaying a single carousel under the repo's source screen

if I could just sniff UA and be like "hey looks like you're on iOS 13, most things here no longer support iOS 13. tap here to add the iOS 13 specific repo" that would solve it neatly

[restive ether]

sounds possible to add to sileo as is

without significant changing

[lime pivot]

tried to request it and nothing happened

I did at least successfully argue to remove the requirement for native depictions to have a tab control at the root

*that may only apply to repo.chariz.com and repo.dynastic.co

[restive ether]

i still wish sileo source code was updated

[lime pivot]

inconsistency of Sileo APIs is the worst

it shouldn't be a super special feature only me and dyn get

also a few others are on a repo whitelist basis, I think DepictionWebView still is

even though it also has a whitelist of allowed web view domains e.g. youtube.com

I moved my depictions to serve dynamically directly from chariz.com before realising Sileo whitelists only **repo.**chariz.com, so I reverted to the old url and set up redirects 😬

[lime pivot]

we all do, but it's convenient to only sometimes care when it has some convenient benefit for them

OSS repo could be updated at any time, they choose not to

[restive ether]

there’s really no benefit to simply not doing so

[lime pivot]

look at how well Zebra works as a collaborative open source project, compare that to how everyone has walked away from Sileo now

[restive ether]

zebra also is for a different market though

cydia without being cydia

[lime pivot]

I think it can appeal to Sileo users with UX improvements

many of which the beta has

[restive ether]

(i am not a fan of zebra 1.2’s design)

[lime pivot]

I forgot I was on beta and started depending on more recent features on the repo 😬

at one point you'd get the product header image both in Zebra's header spot and inside the depiction, heh, oops

[restive ether]

zebra’s depictions are awesome though

i would like sileo to be able to scrape the same info

depends, conflicts, size etc

[lime pivot]

it has all that info, it just chooses to not show any of it

leaving it up to the repo which I disagree with

has no attempt at security whatsoever for handling hijacked package ids

[restive ether]

heh asking a repo maintainer to do something

[lime pivot]

imagine one of your repos going rogue and deciding well now it has mobilesubstrate version 1.69.420, please update asap!

you would have zero way to tell it's fake in Sileo

that's incredibly unbelievably dangerous

though it's also a flaw of the repo system that needs a better solution than simply just praying it doesn't happen and displaying repo names so you can judge for yourself whether to trust it

[tepid olive]

package managers

[restive ether]

what’s stopping this in any other manager

[tepid olive]

[lime pivot]

nothing, but at least you can see the repo name in other package managers

[tepid olive]

there isn’t a “perfect” package manager, that’s for sure

[restive ether]

oh

[wicked summit]

im gonna make a package manager

cuz we all know

[restive ether]

i see ebay you mean now

i misread

[wicked summit]

there aren’t enough

[grim sparrow]

This

[lime pivot]

Sileo only shows you the package id at the very bottom of the screen, no other info

[restive ether]

i remember when xmodgames hijacked substrate

[wicked summit]

that is pog

[grim sparrow]

Tbh I don’t really care, it’s not like i open my package manager every day and look at stuff

[wicked summit]

how can I do that

[tepid olive]

tbh can’t remember the last time i used a graphical package manager on ios

[wicked summit]

for research

[robust radish]

needs entitlement info

[tepid olive]

LOL

[wicked summit]

Mr. Developer

[tepid olive]

substrate 1.0 is now released on the hack your fridge repo!

[grim sparrow]

I just use Sileo because it’s there, I don’t really care too much

I install tweaks through it occasionally, not a big deal

[wicked summit]

same

I also have cydia

[tepid olive]

i have cr4shed and preferenceloader, that’s kinda all besides my shit (and ofc bootstrap essentials)

[wicked summit]

honestly the most I use a package manager is to uninstall unfinished/bugged tweaks I was developing and forgot to uninstall

[grim sparrow]

lol

[tepid olive]

apt

[grim sparrow]

I have a few actual tweaks installed, mostly just QOL stuff

[tepid olive]

apt remove com.yulkytulky.shittytweakfivehundred

[restive ether]

i would appreciate if preference loader and RBS died

or was picked up by a reliable maintainer

[grim sparrow]

Pretty much this is all I have

[tepid olive]

wtf how that much

axon is shit

[restive ether]

i agree

[tepid olive]

julio tweak

jellyfish i have that

powermodule, true true

sentinel is malware

so is snapper and snowbird and tfdidthatsay

[grim sparrow]

GoodWifi is just nice to have

[tepid olive]

it’s all malware

[grim sparrow]

lol

[tepid olive]

it modifies your device

malware

[gentle grove]

guys i just got a cool status website using github pages

github pages is so different than when i last used it

[restive ether]

mfw

[gentle grove]

[adult swim]

[wicked summit]

no shuffle?

cringe

[[[adult swim]]]

[tepid olive]

@wicked summit, Couldn't find anything matching that search query!

[grim sparrow]

Damn

This phone doesn’t even have NFC

[gentle grove]

Amy == Amie

[grim sparrow]

I mean

Only one other person has Aemulo on their device

True

[wicked summit]

me

[grim sparrow]

False

I sent one build to someone just to check one thing

[wicked summit]

Might I have the most Orion tweaks installed on my device?

[grim sparrow]

Probably

[wicked summit]

Pog

[tepid olive]

can someone tell me how to log what files an applications reads from, i’m lazy

[grim sparrow]

Trace FileManager

[tepid olive]

true

wtf you can’t hook swift!!! too hard

[wicked summit]

true

I mean

YES

[gentle grove]

LMAO

imagine getting muted

[lime pivot]

Sam maintains PL now

[restive ether]

oh is he committed to that

[lime pivot]

rbs is kinda unnecessary now I guess but is such a widely used dep that it still needs updates

[tepid olive]

the search engine one?

[restive ether]

thought he just did that preference loader error fix

[lime pivot]

oh, well

[restive ether]

it’s only an issue for that reason

[lime pivot]

I don’t know that he actually committed to be PL maintainer

[restive ether]

especially when it can potentially break shit if not properly updated

[lime pivot]

but we suggested it and he stepped up to doing it at least

see on iOS 14, installing rbs breaks Cephei

uninstalling fixes it

[restive ether]

that’s always fun

[lime pivot]

I could hack up a custom rocketbootstrap.h that adds an OS version check I guess

it’s just a shame we can’t “truly” get rid of rbs, wish I did the cy: thing to Cephei years ago

might have reduced its usage sooner

[restive ether]

desperately needs a drop in replacement

or a new maintainer

[lime pivot]

Odyssey/libhooker continuing to believe rbs should do this and cy: should not be supported is absolutely frustrating

almost got coolstar to implement it… as lh:

I wonder if that was a bluff all along

[restive ether]

truthfully i think coolstar just has too much going on and forgets

[lime pivot]

knowing I’d tell them no, use cy: this is just petty

[restive ether]

never a bad time to take another shot at it

sounds like a simple change

[lime pivot]

I try not to knock them so hard because, well, other stuff going on for them right now

would rather they focus on that at the moment

[restive ether]

understandable

[lime pivot]

but it is still a pain

[restive ether]

cephei: now a rbs drop in replacement

[tepid olive]

@wicked summit #public-mod-logs message

[tepid olive]

no wonder my battery is draining, its that damn cephei thing

[wicked summit]

Apparently an emote I have has a bad word

[tepid olive]

I wish the dev of Cephei would fix the twitter icons not working on iOS 14.

[restive ether]

yeah that cephei guy

@lime pivot you think you could ask him for us?

[gentle grove]

lmao

yeah just say restart instead

"you're so restarted"

[tepid olive]

lol

[tepid olive]

restart

your device

[gentle grove]

true

[lime pivot]

I wish he would too

[lime pivot]

yeah idk, I’ll try but he doesn’t really respond to messages

[restive ether]

damn that’s a shame hopefully he gets this one

who tf is a hashbang productions

[tepid olive]

Is the dev okay?

[lime pivot]

he’s a bit of a dick tbh

[restive ether]

no he’s australian, unfortunately

[wicked summit]

Cephei literally kills children

[lime pivot]

yeah I mean how can it get worse than that

[restive ether]

he’s upside down

like wtf

it doesn’t even make sense

[tepid olive]

true

[lime pivot]

ikr who knows man

[nimble parcel]

it could’ve turned babies Australian

[lime pivot]

this whole world is crazy

[tepid olive]

the hashbang cartel™️

[restive ether]

aussie cartel

[lime pivot]

cheetos in the white house and australians writing shitty code on your iphone

[restive ether]

ruthless

whole world going crazy

[tepid olive]

Oh 😦 Cephei is still amazing, I like it a lot.

but it kills children :(

[tepid olive]

Wait, is that the @nimble parcel I see? Long time no see.

[lime pivot]

why is there @tepid olive in a bra in the pins

[wicked summit]

The main purpose of chariz is to launder human trafficking money

sources: chariz guy made cephei

[lime pivot]

why did I have to see this

[nimble parcel]

hiya @tepid olive what’s up

[tardy narwhal]

it helps you reverse engineer by up to 30%

[restive ether]

why not

[lime pivot]

I heard they’ve laundered so much money it created a human traffic jam

[tepid olive]

Aren't you the owner of Chariz?

[restive ether]

no he’s an aussie

[wicked summit]

omg no

[lime pivot]

no that’s owned by Hank Scorpio of the Globex Corporation

[wicked summit]

devs that use cephei are banned from #development

[tepid olive]

true

i use assembly to write my preferences

much less bloat

[wicked summit]

true

[nimble parcel]

I’d love to catch up rn although it’s 7:30 AM and I’m starting to think I should sleep but dm tomorrow

[tepid olive]

Then make something better then it for me to use in my tweaks

[tepid olive]

You should have slept a while ago, lol

[wicked summit]

what do you use it for

[tepid olive]

c

fee

[tepid olive]

Multiple pages and twitter credits in my tweaks preferences.

[wicked summit]

multiple pages? PSLinkCell goes brrrr

[tepid olive]

true true

[nimble parcel]

as you‘ve probably figured my sleep cycle hasn’t improved much these last few years

[wicked summit]

twitter credits? subclass PSTableCell goes brrr

or footerView goes brrrr

make it your own

[tepid olive]

HBTwitterCell if I am correct its called in Cephei.

[wicked summit]

🤮

[tepid olive]

HBTwitterCell

[lime pivot]

why sleep when you could just pretend you slept all night

[tepid olive]

excellent idea

[lime pivot]

yeah, my caching logic is broken, it’s meant to re-fetch avatars that were already cached over 7 days ago

or 3 days or something

[tepid olive]

wait i have a funny meme but only australians will understand it

[lime pivot]

Twitter is dumb and there’s very low API limits, that’s why there’s caching

[lime pivot]

I am once again asking for you to be funny

[tepid olive]

funny australian joke 😐😐😐

true

[lime pivot]

this was my favorite bernie meme https://twitter.com/craig1black/status/1352805887883177985

Adrian's Digital Basement (@craig1black)

I had a guest in the Digital Basement

Likes

320

Twitter · Jan 23, 2021, 2:30 AM

[wicked summit]

uɐᴉlɐɹʇsn∀ ʇnq ɥsᴉlƃuƎ

[lime pivot]

prob won’t get it unless you watch his channel lmao

[tepid olive]

damn i don’t have any funny stuff in my camera roll, just screenshots of random stuff

[tepid olive]

why is Siri not upside down if i set it to English (Australian)

never gets old

[wicked summit]

submit bug to Apple

[tepid olive]

the whole “australia is upside down”

[wicked summit]

it’s not a joke.

[restive ether]

i used australian female siri

[tepid olive]

every time i see a australia upside down joke i break into hysterical laughter

[lime pivot]

australian siri driving directions: oi mate chuck a u’ey here then turn right to get to the bottle’o

[tepid olive]

im going to go write some shit code now that i will fix before i ship ofc

[burnt niche]

@gaunt mesa 1v1 me

[lime pivot]

me every morning when I arrive at work

[tepid olive]

no but actually i would like to make this code better, so if anyone knows where the status bar breadcrumb view is set as a property please tell me

[lime pivot]

ugh I’ve been here before

for Opener

[tepid olive]

otherwise i will continue to override the status bar string view set text method

[lime pivot]

the way I messed with it was by not messing with it at all

but I can tell you at least that it’s gonna be in UIKitCore

[tepid olive]

it works, and i’ve made the logic pretty optimized but it’s still an extra if statement at best

[lime pivot]

and probably changed since I last looked at it before iOS 11 and notch status bar

iOS corrected notch to mitch

he may not be majority leader any more but he’s still gonna be majority in our minds

[tepid olive]

shit code preview

excessive comments as well because i expect idiots to read it

there’s also a section about how this is not good code and someone should tell me how to fix it

this is an old screenshot

i try not to have the “it works so it’s good” mentality

[tepid olive]

also it’s the most complicated part of the tweak

oh @lime pivot have you pondered more on whether or not it’s something that would be positive to have on chariz? (the breadcrumb thingy)

[gaunt mesa]

breadcrumbs

[wicked summit]

who is renai

[gaunt mesa]

ur mom

[wicked summit]

my mom is hotter

[restive ether]

Apple is so bad at using their own brand in autocorrect lol

like how Xr corrects to axe or ace

[wicked summit]

iPhone xr

[lime pivot]

heh, there’s even an Apple dictionary built into iOS/macOS

lolll they even updated iTunes to say it’s Windows-only

see they do even keep it current

[restive ether]

Xr & xr are different

xr always tells my crazy or x-ray

[tepid olive]

iphone xr

iphone xr

[lime pivot]

it’s still “ecks are” to any normie you ask so 🤷‍♀️

[tepid olive]

why does mine not do it

[lime pivot]

it’s like how everyone gives up on roman numerals after 3

[tepid olive]

LOL

[lime pivot]

Pentium
Pentium II
Pentium III
Pentium 4
Pentium

also reminder “pent” means five, because Pentium was almost called the 586 if Intel didn’t lose their lawsuit against AMD where it was ruled numbers can’t be trademarks

fiveium four

[wicked summit]

iPhone Xr

[tepid olive]

actually

[wicked summit]

@restive ether

[lime pivot]

also the P4 wasn’t even a successor to the PI-PIII architecture, it was a whole new one (that sucked)

[lime pivot]

autocorrect also learns from your Messages texts

[wicked summit]

I never talk about the iPhone XR

Don’t think I’ve ever used it

[lime pivot]

has someone else?

[wicked summit]

Um no

[tepid olive]

iphone xr
i think i have auto capitalize off and that’s why

i used to have one

iphone xr is eh

definitely a budget phone compared to the others

[wicked summit]

iPhone EH

[lime pivot]

that should explain why it doesn’t correct

[tepid olive]

who would’ve known

everyday i learn new things

thanks apple

[restive ether]

i only got an Xr because it was product red

could’ve gotten an X or XS

opted not to for red lol

[lime pivot]

did you know iPhone is a touch screen phone device with internet and music support?

it runs this thing called “iOS”

[tepid olive]

isn’t that like their cancer support thing?

[restive ether]

aids

[tardy narwhal]

An iPod

[tepid olive]

oh

[wicked summit]

What does i stand for

[tardy narwhal]

A Phone

[restive ether]

i

[tepid olive]

i should know, i literally had the red wtf

[tardy narwhal]

An internet explorer

An iPod

A Phone

[tepid olive]

revolutionary

[lime pivot]

an Internet Explorer, a Zune, a breakthrough Windows Mobile device