development

[lethal ice]

yea

[tepid olive]

nice

[lethal ice]

that was requested 509 times so i added it

[tepid olive]

if i ever jailbreak again, i'll definitely buy it

[lethal ice]

cool

[burnt niche]

Ios 14. SwipextenderX. The only real release you will see today

[lethal ice]

i also spent many days in ida figuring out how the ios keyboard works and its overly complicated

lol

i should update it to 14

ug

[burnt niche]

Ida...

[tepid olive]

at this point i just always am on latest

[burnt niche]

Damn man everytime someone says ida. I wanna try it out so bad

For windows?

[lethal ice]

everyone else does besides shmoo

[tepid olive]

if u0 drops, i'll wait for odyssey and use that

[lethal ice]

yea

...

[burnt niche]

U have 7.5?

[tepid olive]

yes

[lethal ice]

nah i have 7.2 i think

[tepid olive]

there is a 7.5 crack

[burnt niche]

7.5 doesnt decompile

[lethal ice]

i'm good with 7.2

[tepid olive]

i use 7.0 for mac

[burnt niche]

@tepid olive big sur?

[tepid olive]

yes

[half walrus]

and my dumb ass don’t forget me woeis

[lethal ice]

oh true

[burnt niche]

@tepid olive lets talk about this in the dms shall we

[tepid olive]

no thanks

[burnt niche]

😂😂😂

[tepid olive]

i'm not interested in sharing more links

[lethal ice]

it's almost to the point where pirating it is justified

[half walrus]

it’s common discussion here

[tepid olive]

yea

[lethal ice]

nobody had 5k to spend

[half walrus]

and i’d have to imagine it’s their business model at this point

[lethal ice]

yea one sale for them is huge

their team can't be that big

[burnt niche]

True. I use ghidra and its really good. I actually want to try to ida and see the comparison

[half walrus]

like nobody including adobe cares if you pirate adobe software

lol

[lethal ice]

tru

adobe has the worst drm

just change the trial number

[tepid olive]

@burnt niche you have it now

[lethal ice]

lol

[half walrus]

it’s all ass but like

u wonder if that’s the intention

[burnt niche]

Ur a god

[lethal ice]

why do you think [redacted] is in development

[misty cradle]

adobe themselves said like we dont care if you pirate our software, because we know when you go professioanl you're gonna buy it from us lol

[half walrus]

bad drm = easier marketing

[lethal ice]

tru

[tepid olive]

true

[lethal ice]

gm tr1

[half walrus]

yeah exactly i figured that was why

[misty cradle]

gm

[lethal ice]

i woke early today and applied to starbucks at 8am

[misty cradle]

true

[tepid olive]

i pirate nothing except IDA

[lethal ice]

they will pay my college tuition

all of it

[half walrus]

do i pirate anything

i’m tryna think

[burnt niche]

I pirate movies guys

[tepid olive]

ok man

[lethal ice]

movies yea rip

[burnt niche]

I had to admit it

[lethal ice]

movies and ida

[half walrus]

vmware fusion for a week but i bought a license

[tepid olive]

i barely watch movies

[half walrus]

even paid for windows gd

[tepid olive]

how

[misty cradle]

idk if it counts as pirating, but i use strreaming sites for shows in the US

cuz idk where else to watch it

[tepid olive]

just buy a 50 cent key

[misty cradle]

they dont put it on tv here

[lethal ice]

i did pirate a couple tweaks in my pre-dev days

[tepid olive]

can't go wrong

[lethal ice]

but i'm clean now

[burnt niche]

I have to use virtualbox for my class since my teacher wants us to use a VM for all c++ assignments

[misty cradle]

[half walrus]

yeah only thing i pirate is macOS

[lethal ice]

true

[half walrus]

somehow

[tepid olive]

everyone did

[lethal ice]

yea exactly

[misty cradle]

how do u pay for windows

win 10 literally free

it auto activates for me

[lethal ice]

then once i sold a tweak and saw how shit pirating is for the dev i stopped

[burnt niche]

Fr me to @misty cradle

[half walrus]

man i can’t believe that’s the only thing i pirate there’s gotta be something

[lethal ice]

my first paid tweak was 4% purchased 96% pirated

[tepid olive]

arm mac users have to pirate WOA lmao

[half walrus]

your tweak was 100% purchased

[lethal ice]

redistributed

[half walrus]

0% not purchased

[lethal ice]

anyways that 96% prompted me to write sex's drm next year and it still hasn't been cracked

[half walrus]

if your tweak was free, your downloads would be at the 96% numbers

[lethal ice]

what

[misty cradle]

sentro

[lethal ice]

wen

[misty cradle]

idk

[lethal ice]

tr1

[misty cradle]

tr2

[lethal ice]

it has to be 2021

[burnt niche]

Okay maybe i am a proffesional pirate

[misty cradle]

bro

tr1 is dead

[lethal ice]

we cannot delay any longer

[misty cradle]

he is mentally dead

destroyed

[lethal ice]

tr2

[misty cradle]

completely dead

[half walrus]

like ppl bring up pirate download counts like the matter

[misty cradle]

@lethal ice yes

sometime this year

i just want to have some time where im comfortable with time

[half walrus]

like ok that’s how much u would sell if it were free, not if your drm wasn’t shite

[misty cradle]

now i got too many things going on

[lethal ice]

@half walrus there was no drm

[tepid olive]

homeplus was free but i doubt the downloads were all official

[half walrus]

.

[misty cradle]

https://i.imgur.com/jwFfko8.png

[half walrus]

i made 20 grand and the tweak cracked itself to activate

[misty cradle]

what is this depressing music

[tepid olive]

true

[misty cradle]

[lethal ice]

idc if download stats aren't accurate, there were 25x more pirate downloads than packix downloads

[tepid olive]

tf

[lethal ice]

that's just fucked up

[half walrus]

y’all can’t keep telling me that shit matters

[lethal ice]

that's smart drm

[misty cradle]

me really thinking veza was gonna make 4k

i mean it wouldve if i owned it fully and could work on it fully

not to throw any shade

[lethal ice]

sex made me about what i expected but i wasn't ready for the curve to flatten when i don't put out updates

[half walrus]

y’all write some shit nobody wants to pay a dollar for and blame pirates when sales are shit

[burnt niche]

Which tweak

[half walrus]

like they were gonna ever pay

[misty cradle]

i just wanna make the mulalala

[half walrus]

only tweak i’ve ever sold

[lethal ice]

krit

that's

not what it's about

doesn't matter if they pay or not, just as long as they didn't pay, they shouldn't be able to use the fucking tweak

[tepid olive]

too many tweaks are just pocket change grab

[lethal ice]

that's basically all i care about

[half walrus]

you pay for IDA?

[burnt niche]

What tweak was it. Home plus pro?

[misty cradle]

[lethal ice]

.

[misty cradle]

https://i.imgur.com/0wK02QS.png yall ever just buy shoes by accident

[tepid olive]

only stuff i paid for was like velox and portraitxi

those were worth it

[lethal ice]

velox

...

[tepid olive]

it was fine

[lethal ice]

...

[misty cradle]

portraitxi worth

[half walrus]

velox was revolutionary

[lethal ice]

daniel took my drm and then disappeared

[half walrus]

then it wasn’t

yep that’s daniel lol

[tepid olive]

it was lmao

[lethal ice]

well tbh i gave it to him

[tepid olive]

i used it so much

[lethal ice]

i was being naive

[misty cradle]

@tepid olive yes ik

[restive ether]

velox🗿

[half walrus]

he owes me

much

[lethal ice]

wie viel

[misty cradle]

just gonna say he wasnt really honest with you in some things

[half walrus]

some?

lol

[misty cradle]

[half walrus]

generous

i had fun writing the code and that’s what i’m concerned about in the end

[tepid olive]

velox not having the cc module thing was such a bummer

[misty cradle]

now that its 2021 i can remove veza from apextweaks name

then veza 2.0 time

[lethal ice]

veza2

true

[misty cradle]

designed by the one and only dgh0st

[lethal ice]

true

[misty cradle]

where is boss

i need him

[half walrus]

damn if only i had an obsession with adding extension frameworks to large projects i write

and happened to write one for velox

[misty cradle]

@tepid olive what cc module thing

where u can like turn on wifi etc?

[tepid olive]

he teased a velox connectivity module

yes

[lethal ice]

damn if only i could find the motivation to get out of bed or finish a tweak

[misty cradle]

conor was working on it

he never did

[half walrus]

ahhah

conor

[misty cradle]

i was actually supposed to work on it, but then my motivation died bc conor took it

[half walrus]

only person in this community who has actually lost me money

god bless you conor

[lethal ice]

how

[misty cradle]

[tepid olive]

how

[half walrus]

agreement to take over his paid tweak

[tepid olive]

Conor moment

[lethal ice]

hayden moment

[misty cradle]

[lethal ice]

when hayden won't sent guitar video

[half walrus]

setting up servers and drm + licensing agreements with lyric providers

[tepid olive]

@lethal ice still dont have a guitar bro, its in athens

[misty cradle]

f

[lethal ice]

[tepid olive]

I cant just up and drive back to athens

[lethal ice]

why is your guitar in greece

[half walrus]

combined with conor’s biweekly “i’m retiring” “i’m back”

[tepid olive]

[misty cradle]

oh ye conor still owes me 30$ too

[half walrus]

and then

[misty cradle]

so many people owe me money wtf

[lethal ice]

.

[tepid olive]

@misty cradle dang bro u owe me 400 dollars

[misty cradle]

ive given hundreds to people

wtf

[lethal ice]

make up ur mind

[half walrus]

he fucking gives the project to someone else

[misty cradle]

i need to make a list

[half walrus]

fuck offff man

[misty cradle]

[lethal ice]

yes tr1 owes me 500

[tepid olive]

damn

[misty cradle]

lyrication is better anyways

@lethal ice too bad he ded bro

[tepid olive]

fr fr

[half walrus]

like i rewrite all of your shit and spend a ton of money

[lethal ice]

tr2

[burnt niche]

man, this is motivating me to make a fucking nice ass tweak with a nice ass price tag no cap

[misty cradle]

no money for u

[lethal ice]

owes me 500

[half walrus]

as agreed

[misty cradle]

[tepid olive]

just re release and rebrand

[half walrus]

and you repeatedly cause me problems

[misty cradle]

ok but dont focus on the money too much

[lethal ice]

do it, make your money, and dip like everyone else

[misty cradle]

learn objc first properly

[half walrus]

annoy me with statusviz shit

[misty cradle]

how do you make a uiview again in objc

wtf

oh ye true

[lethal ice]

i just need to start smoking meth and then i'll be able to write tweaks again

[burnt niche]

yea i am constantly putting like 7 hours now

[misty cradle]

uiview *view = [[uiview alloc] initwithframe:cgrectmake()];

[tepid olive]

statusviz was probably in my top 10 favourite tweaks ever

[misty cradle]

ok i have not forgotten

[half walrus]

and then top it off with a final fuck you by making it so all of that wasted money, licensing agreements, API registrations, hosting, time spent rewriting code

entirely wasted

[half walrus]

thank conor for it not existing rn

[burnt niche]

oh i remember the syntax, its easy. i am just more so learning more stuff about the language and how it functions

[misty cradle]

i wasnt saying the syntax

i said learn objc properly

[lethal ice]

@half walrus well i guess you're gonna get fucked over at least a few times in your life

[tepid olive]

oh yeah mitsuha stuff

[burnt niche]

i am learning it properly lmao

[misty cradle]

i didnt say u werent

[half walrus]

i was so livid having to deal with him that him also being the guy who kept taking over mitsuha repeatedly

[misty cradle]

[half walrus]

that i just dropped statusviz

because people ate his bullshit like candy

[lethal ice]

i feel like we're all the same person just at different points in time and in different lives

[tepid olive]

yea

[misty cradle]

conor is just dumb tbh

[burnt niche]

i am making swipeextenderZ for ios 14.

[misty cradle]

same

[lethal ice]

[tepid olive]

True

[lethal ice]

[half walrus]

every time he came back i had to deprecate my project

[tepid olive]

SwipeExtenderY when

[half walrus]

switch to his new one

[lethal ice]

SEY

SEZ

SEX

[half walrus]

where he added a letter to all of the class names

like fuck off

[tepid olive]

why

add letters to break shit

[misty cradle]

yes good krit, vent

let everything out

[half walrus]

and i’d get yelled at by users if i didn’t

[burnt niche]

is conorthedev really good? or what

[tepid olive]

uhh

[burnt niche]

obviously he seems problematic.

[misty cradle]

2 MORE DAYS

i cant wait so long

i want my watch rn, so i can know if its useless or not

@lethal ice help me

[half walrus]

typically people who fuck me over repeatedly and precisely are assholes

[tepid olive]

Tr1 u actually owe me an apple watch bro do u forget

[misty cradle]

first i fell in love with shoes now, im falling in love with watches

[half walrus]

conor doesn’t fit that and i have no idea what to make of that

[misty cradle]

rolex submarine so fucking sexy

sddsadsadsad

and this other watch

[half walrus]

like just some unfortunate troubled kid unaware of how many problems he was creating lol

[misty cradle]

i dont even care if smart or not

aslong as its sexy

[burnt niche]

AP better than rolex no cap

[misty cradle]

@half walrus thats exactly how i would describe him yes

[half walrus]

good music taste tho

so i forgive him

[tepid olive]

true

[misty cradle]

ok but what is this

[half walrus]

idk chief

[lethal ice]

my friend works at five guys and the drain apparently backed up and human shit started leaking out [image redacted]

[misty cradle]

what is badfuture

do iwanna listen to it

[tepid olive]

dotto was quite cool, he just didn't know what he was doing ig

@lethal ice id cry

Id quit on the spot

[lethal ice]

he had to clean it up

[half walrus]

i clearly stopped listening to spotify when that song came on

[misty cradle]

true

[lethal ice]

but he had covid so he can't smell

[half walrus]

so idk if it’s good

[misty cradle]

@lethal ice i would puke

cant even handle my lil brothers poop

[lethal ice]

yea and it's liquid

[misty cradle]

ok remove the pcture

[lethal ice]

imagine the smell

[misty cradle]

its getting to me

[half walrus]

yum

[misty cradle]

[half walrus]

slurp

[misty cradle]

STFU

[lethal ice]

image redacted

[misty cradle]

gon now

true

[half walrus]

i need sleep ffs

[misty cradle]

ruined my sleep last night but it was worth it

[lethal ice]

are you on meth

[misty cradle]

i am a happy man

[half walrus]

gotta be awake for 2 more hours ohno

[half walrus]

i wish

[tepid olive]

I could use some meth

[lethal ice]

rip

same

[half walrus]

then i would not need to sleep

[lethal ice]

then i'd update sex

[half walrus]

i would need to meth

[half walrus]

you would update sex irl

[lethal ice]

wtf

[half walrus]

this just in, man invents sex 2?

[misty cradle]

i wannna go to a shooting range

and shoot some stuff

[lethal ice]

i forget who it was who created the SEX name

wasn't it eric

[misty cradle]

idk

[tepid olive]

going to ski adios

[lethal ice]

@eternal crater

[misty cradle]

firing range would be perfect

[half walrus]

come to america

they’re open 8-3 monday through friday

[misty cradle]

once its "safer"

i will

[lethal ice]

in america you can literally just drive out into the middle of nowhere and shoot any gun you please, as long as it's not fully automatic

[misty cradle]

maybe they have shooting ranges here too

[half walrus]

how do i make the joke more clear

[misty cradle]

let me see

@half walrus i know what u mean

[half walrus]

[misty cradle]

just go to illinois and your entire life will become a movie

[half walrus]

congress finally getting the American Highschool Experience

[lethal ice]

wtf does that mean

[misty cradle]

cant believe a few months ago i considered trapping

[lethal ice]

trapping like cross dressing?

[misty cradle]

no

[lethal ice]

[misty cradle]

https://i.imgur.com/QjNGLF8.png

this trapping

but i wanna live and not ruin my/people around me's lifes

[lethal ice]

drugs make you money but you can't use the money for anything since it's not documented

unless you can launder the money it's basically useless

[misty cradle]

like i respect the grind but im not about to ruin my life

[lethal ice]

that wouldn't ruin your life

[misty cradle]

i wouldnt say laundering is too hard especially now with certain things

@lethal ice bro do you know how many wars start from this shit

one gang starts a war with another one

[lethal ice]

yeah but you need a good setup, which takes a lot of money to get it started

[misty cradle]

and family starts dying

[lethal ice]

wtf

gang wars aren't shit

[misty cradle]

it happens here in NL too

there are some very big drug people here

[lethal ice]

then work for them

[misty cradle]

[lethal ice]

don't compete

unless u wanna die

[misty cradle]

it dont work like that

[lethal ice]

it kinda does

[misty cradle]

ive seen how the life has impacted people

so its a no for me

i will make money another way

[lethal ice]

drug synthesizers/growers need dealers to sell, they don't want to get their hands dirty and it's too time consuming

[misty cradle]

i got a very huge opportunity coming up and if i manage to get picked for it, i am basically rich

[lethal ice]

nice

[misty cradle]

so time to finish this homework and then re learn python

[lethal ice]

i hope to make some good money on tweaks in the future and also working at starbucks, i won't have to worry about paying for college so i get to keep saving

should build a nice nest egg

[misty cradle]

first thing i will do with my money is buy a house and some area in turkey

[lethal ice]

until college is over then i will buy a studio apartment

are you gonna learn turkish

[misty cradle]

n

just gonna buy area there

you can turn 50k into 500k there in a few years (5 ish)

house would be here in NL btw

area in turkey

[lethal ice]

you can turn 50k into 500k anywhere if you do it right and/or have a crystal ball

[misty cradle]

i am planning to invest every money i get

[lethal ice]

ye imma invest some money into tesla because it's always going up lol

[misty cradle]

this week should be a blessing if i cook

[lethal ice]

also if i get into it, could create an ai to monitor stocks and predict changes

[misty cradle]

very good money to make

the first 10k is the hardest

[lethal ice]

been there done that

[misty cradle]

after that i can comfortably invest

[lethal ice]

[misty cradle]

without having to wage things off

@twilit jungle gm

[lethal ice]

gm gh()st

[misty cradle]

gh()st

[twilit jungle]

[misty cradle]

true

did julia play gta yesterday

[twilit jungle]

[misty cradle]

[lethal ice]

|)g|-|()st

[misty cradle]

[lethal ice]

true

[twilit jungle]

[lethal ice]

|)G|-|()ST

xbox name time

Xx_..._xX

[twilit jungle]

|)G|-|()ST ™️

[lethal ice]

true

[misty cradle]

true

So long bro

2 days.

I want it now

[lethal ice]

spacegrijs

aluminium

[misty cradle]

spacegrijs

[lethal ice]

imagine saying aluminium instead of aluminum

[misty cradle]

what would that mena

[lethal ice]

aluminium is the eu way of saying it

[misty cradle]

wait wtf its aluminium

i thought stainless steel

[lethal ice]

wtf

[misty cradle]

that must be series 6

which is like 130 extra

[lethal ice]

aluminum is better than stainless steel, do u wanna have a brick on ur wrist?

[misty cradle]

if i dont like i might just exchange for series 6

or wait n o

i will buy regular watch

i want a regular watch as well

[lethal ice]

aluminum is literally the best metal considering price, durability, and weight

[misty cradle]

@twilit jungle do u wear a watch

[twilit jungle]

Just buy a band and then attach phone to your wrist

[misty cradle]

true

i will try this out for 2 weeks

[lethal ice]

rip mine has a crack

[misty cradle]

which watch is that

[lethal ice]

top left

s1

[misty cradle]

oh yes need screen protector for it too

[lethal ice]

ye

i never got one

[misty cradle]

isnt that basically

s1

[lethal ice]

no

they're all the same

[misty cradle]

doubt

s1 is slow

[lethal ice]

jk but for conventional purposes they are all the same

[misty cradle]

compared to new ones

true

[lethal ice]

it's not slow

[misty cradle]

this SE watch has 32gb storage wtf

[lethal ice]

[misty cradle]

spotify offline listen

[lethal ice]

that's just useless

[misty cradle]

no no music bro

[lethal ice]

go ahead play music out of ur watch

[misty cradle]

yes

airpods??

smh

[lethal ice]

true

[misty cradle]

dont have to take phone outside for when run

[lethal ice]

i hate running with phone in pocket

it always flails around and hits my cock

[misty cradle]

i dont mind now

get better pockets

[lethal ice]

nah i like big pockets

it only happens with some pairs of shorts tho

[misty cradle]

i didnt say get smaller

i said get better

[lethal ice]

wtf

[misty cradle]

who made this fucking BEAT

i need

[lethal ice]

changing my pockets isn't gonna do anything since i can't change the fact i have a monstercock

[misty cradle]

@fading kindle make beat like Get Back - Pop Smoke pls

i need ear orgasm

[misty cradle]

[lethal ice]

i'm neither

[misty cradle]

wtf

[lethal ice]

middle ground

why delete

[misty cradle]

bc dev

[lethal ice]

u talk about cock all the time

[misty cradle]

trollface.png

[half walrus]

lol parler banned from AWS

[lethal ice]

fuck aws

i hate it so much

[half walrus]

apparently there was very illegal shit on there as it turns out

[misty cradle]

love AWS

[half walrus]

and

[misty cradle]

especially when u have it for free

without worrying about credits

[lethal ice]

ok imma go do something with my life besides sit in this chair on discord

maybe i'll write code

[half walrus]

a certain special retard named donald trump :) signed legislation so :) websites are responsible for what users post :)

and this is

so fucking

he literally put the final fucking nail in his coffin

2 years ago, trying to annoy twitter

so perfect

if ur wondering why r/dnm got banned this is why

pretty fuckin stupid law ain’t it donny

lol

[restive ether]

r/donaldtrump

[misty cradle]

@restive ether gm

[half walrus]

it was a big factor in the reddit ban wave

[restive ether]

i think it’s funny they’re complaining about free speech but want to revoke section 230

it would just make it worse 🗿

[fading kindle]

development ping

poggers

[half walrus]

didn’t they move in that direction

[fading kindle]

i am dev

[restive ether]

no it’s still there

[half walrus]

i remember dnm getting banned because of a law related to it

rip dnm

[restive ether]

it would’ve been revoked if donald didn’t complain about the spending bill the first time around

[misty cradle]

@fading kindle yes check ur ping

it was me

need beat bro

down bad rn

[restive ether]

instead trump objected and got nothing out of it

[fading kindle]

i have loops to get to rn tr1

maybe day after

or week end

[misty cradle]

ok

[burnt niche]

This on mac would be the dream

Could i run ida in wine

[tepid olive]

Since when was 7.5 cough unlocked cough

[burnt niche]

Gonna test it

Someone gifted it to me @tepid olive

[tepid olive]

[twilit jungle]

Bruh you are showing the license

[burnt niche]

Yea its for everyone

😂

[tepid olive]

The license says otherwise, hmm

[restive ether]

[burnt niche]

Alright someone mightve gifted it to me on rutracker

😂

Im gonna try to run the exe in wine

[tepid olive]

I prefer inmac

[burnt niche]

This is gonna be interesting

Ill try both

[burnt niche]

I can’t get my hands on a good working “build” of it for mac

[tepid olive]

Sad

[burnt niche]

The track never works

[gaunt mesa]

yes

[burnt niche]

@gaunt mesa does it work good?

I ve never used wine

Do not know the performance of it

[restive ether]

someone make a tweak so i can commit die

[gaunt mesa]

yes it works fine

ask @grim sparrow cuz idk how to do it

[restive ether]

ok thanks

[burnt niche]

Damn wtf. I didnt expect u to say that

[restive ether]

@grim sparrow help plz

[burnt niche]

Okay ill try it

[grim sparrow]

oh right

ok

so

[tardy narwhal]

https://github.com/Gcenx/WineskinServer

isn’t it this git

[grim sparrow]

probably idk

I just have this saved on my desktop

The engine you want is WS11WineCX64Bit19.0.1-1

And for the wrapper, Wineskin-2.9.0.7-rc1

Create a blank wrapper, named whatever, so I guess IDA75.app or idk

Open it in Finder -> Show package Contents -> Open Wineskin

Advanced -> Set the EXE path to your exe

Tools -> Winetricks -> Tick win10 -> Run

If all went well, you can just launch it from Launchpad now

[tardy narwhal]

do you still need to notarize it?

[burnt niche]

Trying to make a .app For ida with wine?

[grim sparrow]

[tardy narwhal]

afaik wineskin isn’t codesigned

[grim sparrow]

I wonder if I can just share my full .app for it, considering it's 1.6gb

[burnt niche]

Wait. Should i use wineskin instead of the official winehq?

I never used wine before

I would like the .app too

[grim sparrow]

You can't use the official one

[gaunt mesa]

bruh

the official one is broken

[grim sparrow]

just follow my simple steps

[gaunt mesa]

"simple"

[grim sparrow]

if I can guide Capt through it, anyone can do it

[burnt niche]

Guide me pops

[gaunt mesa]

wtf

[burnt niche]

https://www.wineskin.net

[grim sparrow]

ezpz

[burnt niche]

Jackpot

😂

[grim sparrow]

you need to use the unofficial one cause of 64bit

#development message

[gaunt mesa]

wayment

[grim sparrow]

pain

[lethal ice]

i did. stuff

excuse me auto correct

"i did stuff" is now autocorrected to "i did. stuff"

[tepid olive]

Im stuff

[grim sparrow]

Hi stuff, I'm mom

[tepid olive]

amy back to k

[grim sparrow]

there is literally no meaning to it

[lethal ice]

[restive ether]

k

[burnt niche]

Bruh holy fuck

Why did noone tell me this sorcery

7.5 on mac

[grim sparrow]

lol

I mentioned it here a while back

[marble tiger]

For some reason I thought this was going to be a sports bottle thing

[half walrus]

!KEKW

must suck

i wonder how hard it’d be to load a .dll into a mach-o program

i’ve reached the point where i’m allowed to ask that question and i’m scared

[lethal ice]

lmao probably not too hard

PE is shit tho

ive fucked around with it a little bit and it's really not fun, so much backwards compatibility fuckery

[burnt niche]

heres icon for ida if you want to change it using wineskin

[half walrus]

trying to think how one would go at it

[lethal ice]

well assuming you don't have an x64 emulator ready to run on ios, its gonna be a while

[half walrus]

i think emulating the PE runtime to make the dll happy

[half walrus]

macho not ios so

[lethal ice]

oh right

[half walrus]

decompilers for ida are .dlls

my IDA takes dylibs

[marble tiger]

What kind of code are you taking about? If the dll links against any e.g. system libraries or makes syscalls, there’s kind of a problem

[lethal ice]

[undone nest]

krit

have you still not slept

[half walrus]

so i’m thinking like

[half walrus]

.

[undone nest]

even i fell asleep

go sleep

[lethal ice]

its happening

[half walrus]

IDA decompilers so

yes there will be that

[marble tiger]

Anything else pretty much means executing shell code

[lethal ice]

i doubt dlls would be making syscalls

always just use libc calls

but the system library thing might be a problem

[half walrus]

it’d be linking against other things in a way dyld doesn’t understand

so i think what to do there is copy daeken’s model and

[marble tiger]

Yeah, you’d have to write your own loader for sure. The format is completely different

[half walrus]

sandbox the dll entirely

[lethal ice]

holy shit i just peeled the plastic cover off of a 15 year old hard drive

[half walrus]

handle every link and call it makes

i’m just trying to figure if running it or doing it Rosetta style is the way to go

[marble tiger]

I’m not too familiar with Windows. Is the calling convention even the same?

[half walrus]

probably not even close

[lethal ice]

krit that's not gonna be a fun time trust me

[burnt niche]

Im literally in shock and traumatized that i have ida pro 7.5 on mac

After all this time

[half walrus]

it’s straight up sin

[lethal ice]

but if you ever get it to work u better tell me lmao

[half walrus]

i will shout it from the rooftops it’s absurd

given how foreign PE is

[lethal ice]

pe trash

[half walrus]

it’d need a hypervisor

[burnt niche]

@lethal ice when first opening a binary generate psuedocode is greyed out right? I have to wait for like 5 minutes

[half walrus]

to keep the performance up there

can’t just immediately translate because i don’t have access to rosetta for binary format

so run it in its own little world, catch literally everything it does and send it to the real runtime

given how IDA works and how little work i’m willing to bet they put into porting to macos

[lethal ice]

wait until in the bottom left it says "idle"

right now it should be an address changing quickly

[burnt niche]

No it says idke

Idle

N i still cant generate psuedocode

[lethal ice]

then f5 to do pseudocode

[half walrus]

i’m gonna bet symbols are the same

so

[burnt niche]

I pressed f5 and apple music opened up

Nice

😂😂

[lethal ice]

what the fuck is this

windows xp???

[half walrus]

^

is this really what y’all live with on wine IDA

[lethal ice]

you might not have a decompiler

[burnt niche]

Nah it worked

[half walrus]

bc just buy it at that point holy shit that’s almost as bad as ghidra

[lethal ice]

yay i'm jailbroken again

[burnt niche]

I have the press assembly code to make generate psuedo code press

No i think i didnt change the display setting sfor it

Let me try

[half walrus]

are there any PE/windows enthusiasts here

all i know is macos

i get confused when disassembling windows binaries usually

[lethal ice]

i don't think pe enthusiasm exists

i know a little bit about it but not really much

[half walrus]

i mean im not a mach-o enthusiast

but i can pull a dylib from the shared cache and make it openable again

just comes with screwing around in the area for long enough

[grim sparrow]

my psu comes tomorrow, best believe I'm using native windows

it might actually be useable as well, Intel i5-5150U -> Ryzen 7 3700X

[half walrus]

gonna @tardy narwhal if you happen to be familiar with dll implementation details

have exactly 50% of the needed experience to pull this off rn

[burnt niche]

@grim sparrow you can’t change the windows 97 look?

On wineskin

[grim sparrow]

afaik Wine is still built on XP

[tardy narwhal]

I hear windows

how may i help u

[grim sparrow]

I hate how notifications for discord come on the wrong monitor

[lethal ice]

okay im gonna switch from cscolorpicker to libcolorpicker(alderis)

finally

[grim sparrow]

alderis is pog

[lethal ice]

i wrote this tweak so long ago that there were no good color pickers just been too lazy to update it

[tardy narwhal]

what’s up

[half walrus]

know anything about dlls?

in the sense i do about dylibs

just, experience from how they work and get used by the system

i’m looking into hypervising them on macos for shits and giggles and realized i know nothing about dlls

[grim sparrow]

for shits and giggles
The biggest motivation for 99% of projects

[half walrus]

the actual motivation is native ida 7.5 decompilers on macos

but if i give people a real reason they assume i’m thinking logically in the first place

[grim sparrow]

Even on the mac version are they not native?

[half walrus]

i can only afford arm64

[grim sparrow]

ah right ok

[half walrus]

which would be fine

[misty cradle]

Why is everything being delivered exactly on my birthday first clothes, Apple Watch and now shoes

[half walrus]

if i weren’t the only person working on watchOS bootchain

[grim sparrow]

[half walrus]

which is ignored for not being arm64 lol

[grim sparrow]

it's not?

[half walrus]

it’s armv7

[lethal ice]

oh god

oh god

[half walrus]

with img4

[misty cradle]

Do I pay 3 euro extra for express shipping so my clothes arrive tomorrow

[lethal ice]

what the fuck

why

me

[grim sparrow]

yes

[misty cradle]

Instead of sometime next week

[lethal ice]

/usr/bin/ld: unrecognised emulation mode: ultiply_defined

[misty cradle]

Ok

[lethal ice]

not this again

fuck

fuck

[tepid olive]

arm64_32

[lethal ice]

how do i fix this

[tepid olive]

Ive had this 😄

[grim sparrow]

I paid £10 for next day shipping, it's arriving tomorrow, I ordered 7 days ago

[misty cradle]

@lethal ice just do it bro 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[lethal ice]

yes me too

i was never able to fix it

[half walrus]

nah that’s >=S4

[lethal ice]

armv7k

[tepid olive]

Dont remember how i fixed i think its somethings passing the flag -multiply_defined and its like

[half walrus]

thank god i don’t have to worry about 6432

lol

[tepid olive]

-m means -m64

[half walrus]

i don’t even wanna know

[misty cradle]

Wtf used my phone for 7 hours today already

That is enough

[half walrus]

armv7k is a dumb name

[grim sparrow]

lol

[misty cradle]

Gn

The goal is about 5 hours or less max

[half walrus]

the “k” stands for “img4”

[lethal ice]

its because theos thinks -multiply_defined isnt a flag, its treating it as -m<flag>

[tepid olive]

Ah yeah thats it

[lethal ice]

but uroboro didnt even know how to fix it

[grim sparrow]

I’m no better Tr2

[tepid olive]

Thats what i was saying in better words :p

[lethal ice]

lol

maybe its the toolchain

[tepid olive]

What is the actual command its running with messages=on

[half walrus]

.

[grim sparrow]

[misty cradle]

I do 6 hours

Usually

Or less

Now it has gotten higher

[grim sparrow]

I've lost my stats cause new phone

[lethal ice]

-multiply_defined suppress is what is generates

[misty cradle]

This becoming unacceptable

[lethal ice]

which toolchain should i be using? im using the dghost one

[half walrus]

sit down kids lol

[grim sparrow]

I have finally upgraded from my i8 to an i7

[misty cradle]

Hope the watch can help me move more

And less phone usage

And not more watch usage

Vibeok

[grim sparrow]

I swear I had this beaten on my 8

[tepid olive]

@lethal ice what toolchain is the dghost one

[half walrus]

fuck is health

[misty cradle]

Bingner’s

[half walrus]

i deleted that app

[grim sparrow]

health data I'm guessing

[tepid olive]

Oh

[lethal ice]

https://discordapp.com/channels/349243932447604736/688124600269144162/688553662175379615

@tepid olive

[tepid olive]

Well idk if itll fix it but try cameron’s

[misty cradle]

Ok enough for today,

[lethal ice]

i just ran the commands

[grim sparrow]

I have 800mb of health data on my icloud

[lethal ice]

maybe i need the newer version

[tepid olive]

https://github.com/CRKatri/llvm-project/releases/tag/swift-5.3.2-RELEASE

Try the commands but with this

[lethal ice]

swift

?

[twilit jungle]

[tepid olive]

Its llvm

Swift toolchain also included

[lethal ice]

[tepid olive]

Thats just how it be

[lethal ice]

ok

[grim sparrow]

I have activity data from my s0 still, back in 2015

[half walrus]

maybe my phone bricks itself once a month in an attempt to cut me off

[twilit jungle]

If only you read the first line of that comment, you wouldn't have gotten #development message

[grim sparrow]

my phone attempt to cut me off is a hardware failure

[lethal ice]

wtf

[half walrus]

tbf tho

i leave my phone on and plugged in almost the entire time i’m working

[lethal ice]

okay ill just fix it then

[half walrus]

is why i get 13 hours lol

[grim sparrow]

this

a large chunk of my screen time is just the music app

[tardy narwhal]

yes but depends what you wanna know

[grim sparrow]

or if I'm working on something, I'll leave it on that app or the home screen the whole time

[restive ether]

true

[tardy narwhal]

I’ve done my fair share of dll fuckery and dynamic loading on windows similar to objc’s runtime

[half walrus]

essentially just trying to get an idea for what i’d need to hypervise

[misty cradle]

he wants to load dll on macos

wtf discord on my pc now

gn

forgot it was open here

[half walrus]

it’s all x86 machine code ofc

[grim sparrow]

that's cheating

[half walrus]

i haven’t written hypervisors so i don’t know details on it but have an idea

[tardy narwhal]

A translator layer similar to rosetta essentially imo but that’s really beyond your scope, like no offense. I tried that when I jumped to macos a year ago and it worked half-haphazardly.
As extensive research, dig into PE format and begin with nesting PEs

then you should be able to translate on the fly

[half walrus]

everything i work on is beyond my scope, never offensive

that’s how i learn

[tardy narwhal]

Oh shut up, you have a scope based on your knowledge

[tepid olive]

if you do that quick reaction shit ur a virgin

[tardy narwhal]

this one’s just really large since you’d have to begin with dll reversing

grab a windows vm and dive in

[half walrus]

i know jack about almost half of what i work on lol

jumped straight into watchos iboot

horrible idea

[tardy narwhal]

it’s really fun though once you fuck with dll linking & fucking around

[restive ether]

le fishe

[half walrus]

learned a fuckton anyways

[half walrus]

it is gonna be very helpful that i have both decompilers on hand and have a VM on my second monitor booting my windows drive

should be easy(er) to at least compare the arm decompilers and figure out how win does stuff

[tardy narwhal]

ah one thing you do need to watch out for while translating is translating msvc specifics if you get bins compiled with it

[half walrus]

which level is that

[burnt niche]

@grim sparrow cant you add a msstyle?

[tardy narwhal]

asm

[half walrus]

ah interesting

[grim sparrow]

idfk google it

[tardy narwhal]

inevitably you might wanna peek into x64

beautiful arch to learn

[burnt niche]

Im trying

[half walrus]

so i’m wondering how heavily ill be able to rely on the fact that “the cpu understands it”

bc if i went the route of “also get all dependencies in”

[tardy narwhal]

uh

[half walrus]

i have no idea what i’m talking about and i’m away from home prepare for retarded ideas lol

[tardy narwhal]

since it’s essentially x64/x86 in the end you can assume it’ll “just work” it’s just the order and compiled code which needs introspection to see if they’re compliant with your traget

disassemble a quick asm adding in C with msvc (win) and clang (macos) and it should yield some fruitful insights

on another side note here’s a repo for primitive x64 solutions to common programming exercises, they’re fully documented

https://github.com/mass1ve-err0r/unibi-OSS/tree/master/ComputerArchitecture

[half walrus]

will the msvc one work on macos though?

[tardy narwhal]

that’s why I put windows in brackets

basically compile on their respective platforms and then introspect to start the journey

[half walrus]

bc an interesting route here is avoiding translation entirely if possible

[tardy narwhal]

That will be inevitable afaik, or at least in my translator it wasn’t fun

else if wine’s open sauce peek at that

[lethal ice]

krit please dont tell me ur about to try to load a dll on mac

[burnt niche]

@grim sparrow got themes working. works with .theme and .msstyles files. ill try to find a good mac theme

i am trying a old leopard theme out for fun. its looks decent

[half walrus]

yeah i intended to, that’s probably very similar to my own theory on implementation

except they did the whole stack in it instead of just one lib and dependencies

i’m guessing)

[burnt niche]

this theme looks ass

[tardy narwhal]

you should be able though in theory just copy text / pure code segments but the asm varies slightly. It’s not gonna be fun

Like really not

[half walrus]

but it should still run, no?

[tardy narwhal]

granted you don’t screw with the stack

yeah i don’t see why not

[tepid olive]

why do the fonts suck so much

[tardy narwhal]

since add on osx or win is the same

[tepid olive]

is there no font fix

[half walrus]

like my goal is “shove dll in a box managed by a fake hexarm.dylib where each symbol required just calls the related code from the instance of hexarm.dll loaded in memory”

[burnt niche]

@tepid olive Its just the old theme. ill find a good quality one right now

[tardy narwhal]

That’s not gonna work based on how the assembly looks

[lethal ice]

ld: unsupported tapi file type '!tapi-tbd' in YAML file '/home/scoob/theos/sdks/iPhoneOS14.0.sdk/usr/lib/libobjc.tbd' for architecture arm64```

when will the errors stop

[half walrus]

yeah so the question is once i get to “call the method from the dll” how do i start the process of executing that code

[lethal ice]

please somebody just send me a working 13 or 14 sdk every single one i download is broken

[half walrus]

and that’s where the fun learning stuff comes in

[lethal ice]

yeah youre gonna have fun going through PE's linking dumpster fire

[half walrus]

wee

[tepid olive]

cringe! using old toolchain

[lethal ice]

no

im literally using

[tardy narwhal]

well you’ll have to come up with a way to emulate or rather have a trampoline for kernel32 and syswow64

[lethal ice]

the most recent bingner

[misty cradle]

.

[tardy narwhal]

i’ve been there it’s just not fun

[tepid olive]

thats old

ios 14 uses a new tapi format

[lethal ice]

[tepid olive]

so use camerons or ur outa luck

[misty cradle]

trollface.png

[lethal ice]

great

[tepid olive]

[lethal ice]

even though im not even building it for ios 14

[tepid olive]

tapi v4 moment