did you see the lotion discussion we had this morning
#development
misty cradle
yes 
grim sparrow
lol
gloomy compass
I think Jellyfish Jerry is someone else š
tardy narwhal
i told him but he wouldnāt believe
grim sparrow
L
tepid olive
L
grim sparrow
Do you ever have an idea, but itās pure pain?
tepid olive
yes
tepid olive
and then you do it but it sucks and you force revert commits
then you realize there was some good code and you deleted it
then you suffer
tardy narwhal
thereās no such thing as bad ideas, only unoptimized pathways
tepid olive
grim sparrow
See this would be beneficial for tweak developers all around, but itās gonna be pain and may not even be possible 
grim sparrow
I will try 
tardy narwhal
well whatās your idea
grim sparrow
well whatās your idea
This information cannot be shared at this time
grim sparrow
Me using Orion like a big girl 
tepid olive
true
tardy narwhal
lmao alright
grim sparrow
Itās one of those ideas that would be great if it worked, and if it doesnāt is a terrible idea
tepid olive
literally lags scrolling through albums
tepid olive
on mac
tepid olive
lol
grim sparrow
Imma blame Catalyst for that
tardy narwhal
one of those ideas would be to have a common-sense test before you can invoke nic.pl but thatās not gonna happen
grim sparrow
grim sparrow
gloomy knoll
Is this how I would compare two strings in objective c?
if ([deviceType isEqualToString: @"iPhone8,1"]) || ([deviceType isEqualToString: @"iPhone8,2"])
{
}
But I am told I have a missing expression
lime pivot
@half walrus saw this and knew you'd get a kick out of it https://64.github.io/cmake-raytracer/
tardy narwhal
@gloomy knoll make sure your if is valid
grim sparrow
what the fuck
tepid olive
taylor swift
yes sir
misty cradle
no
tepid olive
ok
grim sparrow
I am very confused
lime pivot
so now when I curse make for being so unsuitable to Theos's growing featureset, I just have to remind myself: someone wrote a raytracer in cmake
grim sparrow
lmao
tepid olive
cmake raytracing
ultimate lighting while compiling
i think i've gone through iOS setup 20 times in the last 10 days
grim sparrow
well that's not good
tepid olive
vibeok
gloomy knoll
your error is a bit more apparent though
Yeah, so in the answer, category is a reference to the variable?
tardy narwhal
Yeah, so in the answer, `category` is a reference to the variable?
thatās not it. Either please learn basic objc syntax or revisit your code
grim sparrow
lol
tardy narwhal
idk if youāre an alt of someone to ask these questions
tepid olive
true
tepid olive
Is this how I would compare two strings in objective c?
```objc
if ([deviceT...
you just made a typo that is how you'd compare two strings
tardy narwhal
if this is you AlexT fuck off
tepid olive
No I don't think that's alex
grim sparrow
lol
gloomy knoll
Who's Alex??
tepid olive
if it were that code would be ridiculous. That man just made a typo lol
tardy narwhal
Oh true
tepid olive
this guy would spam this channel with google questions
tepid olive
alexT is the one true god
tardy narwhal
i hope one day i can be a hacker like him and his website
which is a slideshow of shit
tepid olive
Yeah, so in the answer, `category` is a reference to the variable?
Btw, check both sides of the || you added a parenthesis
is this supposed to mean something
tardy narwhal
@tepid olive can you rate a website
tepid olive
fuckin iPad 2 is stuck on the progress bar and nothing happens
how do i get this mf working
grim sparrow
Give it a kiss
tepid olive
<@456226577798135808> can you rate a website
Okay
tepid olive
I respect the grind though lol
tardy narwhal
Iām still not sure if itās irony or not
tepid olive
I didn't think he'd be able to make a functioning website
tardy narwhal
I didn't think he'd be able to make a functioning website
LMAO
tepid olive
The T in AlexT is for Torvalds
grim sparrow
Progress
tepid olive
the kiss must be wet
tardy narwhal
itās for Tor bro, remember, hacker vibes
tepid olive
itās for Tor bro, remember, hacker vibes
Lol
tepid olive
is this supposed to mean something
let's make it 777
TRUE
love how old iOS has a fade out recovery mode
probably due to bootrom being iOS 6 era
mf is still hanging
@grim sparrow kiss is done, what next
uhh maybe it's bricked? dfu is broken apparently
nvm
grim sparrow
sorry my macbook froze again
accidentally tried to throw the whole shared cache into Hopper 
grim sparrow
<@!270540064512147456> kiss is done, what next
spin 3 times, and poke your nose
gaunt mesa
first thing i see in backlog
tepid olive
I was a whitename for two messages unacceptable
True
don't get why idevicerestore bins don't run if the cert expired but ok
too bad i'll give it up, it's ded
tepid olive
first thing i see in backlog
at least it's not 
glacial matrix
don't get why idevicerestore bins don't run if the cert expired but ok
SeCuRiTy
tardy narwhal
cc/ @tepid olive I just realized i have headers mapped out, just forget i ever had a repository lmao
tepid olive
me too thanks
gloomy knoll
On iOS 13, I could use a tweak called oslog from bigbos to get the os log,
Is there any alternatives for iOS 14?
Thanks
peak quartz
On iOS 13, I could use a tweak called `oslog` from bigbos to get the os log,
Is...
RemoteLog
lethal ice
@narrow mason DID THE STRINGS COME HOE
restive ether
@lethal ice hello i would like to purchase one sex for a giveaway
lethal ice
i dont think chariz can generate codes
lethal ice
maybe i'm wrong
restive ether
i donāt wanna do dynastic again
lethal ice
if you give me their username i'll gift it
lethal ice
yea
restive ether
how much is a sex
lethal ice
$0
lethal ice
if it's a giveaway i'd hate to see it paid for
restive ether
itās for boosters not general server so
restive ether
whatās is your pisspal
lethal ice
fr it's fine just give me their username
lethal ice
restive ether
grim sparrow
restive ether
literally me
lethal ice
yea true
restive ether
not false tbh
peak quartz
guys - any suggestions for real blur effect?
peak quartz
any examples?
lethal ice
not off the top of my head but there are some on various githubs
from what i remember it's pretty straight forward
marble tiger
guys - any suggestions for real blur effect?
burnt niche
fridatools is dope asf
someone should make a fridatools gui. that would be nice asf
marble tiger
@peak quartz what are you looking to blur? Thereās also https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/GraphicsImaging/Reference/CoreImageFilterReference/index.html?language=objc#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP30000136-SW29
twilit jungle
lethal ice
peak quartz
<@227740326587006977> what are you looking to blur? Thereās also https://develop...
just a normal blurred background to blurr the background below him
marble tiger
just a normal blurred background to blurr the background below him
The first link I sent is probably what you want then
marble tiger
Hm
robust radish
Maybe uivisualeffectsview
peak quartz
could not translate that into objective c... very weak at swift
robust radish
oh yeah that
usage example https://github.com/EthanArbuckle/carplay-cast/blob/master/src/CRCarplayWindow.mm#L128-L135
peak quartz
lemme try that
peak quartz
usage example https://github.com/EthanArbuckle/carplay-cast/blob/master/src/CRCa...
objcInvoke_3 whats that?
no need ill remove that
robust radish
a macro to objc_msgSend - you can rewrite the innovations in objc-syntax
ie objcInvoke_3(objc_getClass("UIVisualEffect"), @"effectCompositingColor:withMode:alpha:", [UIColor blackColor], 7, 0.6); is [UIVisualEffect effectCompositingColor:[UIColor blackColor] withMode:7 alpha:0.6];
glacial matrix
Iāve yet to comprehend your aversion to objc syntax 
robust radish
declaring interfaces for all the classes/methods is way time consuming
with the macros the method name is a string
so its faster to write
only for tweaks though
peak quartz
the blur effect im getting is identical to the one as if i did [UIBlurEffect effectWithStyle:UIBlurEffectStyleDark];
ill try to play it around maybe im not doing something right
twilit jungle
Its only faster if you make no spelling errors.
burnt niche
anyone use frida-trace here?
is there a way to trace all function calls in a certain class. or trace all function calls for the app
log
log when its called
in a certain class
lapis vessel
https://gist.github.com/darrarski/29a2a4515508e385c90b3ffe6f975df7
lmao that's an awesome hack
peak quartz
lmao that's an awesome hack
Couldnāt translate to objc tho š
burnt niche
because i can log certain method calls in a certain class
lapis vessel
I would recommend trying to convert it into objc if you don't think you know how. That's much more of an objc challenge than a swift one
all it's doing is in drawRect it is animating the effect from nil to a UIBlurEffect object using a UIViewPropertyAnimator, but setting the fractionComplete of the animation to the blur level and then never starting the animation
although it might be a better idea to do this in didMoveToSuperview rather than drawRect, try it
burnt niche
@grave sparrow got it working, way better than nslogify. you can log/trace all functions in a class or you can log one specific method. if you trace all methods in class, you can even exclude certain methods that get called alot to clear up the log
this is going to save me a lot of time
yea i get it since it doesn't log values. it traces the address to them correct?
peak quartz
all it's doing is in `drawRect` it is animating the effect from nil to a `UIBlur...
Iāll try to translate your writing
lapis vessel
do look at the code too, you don't need to know any swift to see what methods they are calling when
I've never written a line of swift code in my life
burnt niche
oh yea, that is really going to helpful in the future holy fuck. is there a way to log values with that as well instead of showing the address.
that would be gold
robust radish
you can open the handlers directory it creates in cwd and edit the js file for the particular method to log the retvalue
you can also tweak the python script that backs frida-trace so that it logs retvals automatically, but its kind of dangerous bc you dont know what type of arg could be passed in
itll likely cause crashes
burnt niche
i am not sure if it can
it shows who called
i dont know any js
you should write a script for that. it would be so helpful and way better than using nslogify
does it log the values of the parameters?
ill check it out
burnt niche
@grave sparrow i am pretty sure it does but i would have to do it in js which i have no idea about
@grave sparrow https://github.com/frida/frida/issues/607
its possible
burnt niche
nice i am going to post a issue in frida
to see if someone can help me
frida-trace -U -m ā-[ClassName *]" AppName
-For example
frida-trace -U -m ā-[ServerHandler *]" Safari
CASE 1
-This is what the output looks like for a method that returns void but takes arguments
ā-[ServerHandler setNumberOfRequestsRunning:0x0]ā
-The Method is
ā-(void)setNumberOfRequestsRunning:(int);ā
āWhat I want
I want the output to be the value of the argument not the address
-something that looks like this
ā-[ServerHandler setNumberOfRequestsRunning:58]ā
CASE 2
-This is what the output looks like for a method that returns a value and takes arguments
ā-[ServerHandler isShortTimeoutURLString:0x105285860]ā
-The Method is
ā-(BOOL)isShortTimeoutURLString:(id);ā
-What I want
I want to print the return value for the method and also print the value of the argument not the address.
-Something that looks like this
ā-[ServerHandler YES isShortTimeoutURLString:āStringā]ā
Or
ā-[ServerHandler 1 isShortTimeoutURLString:āStringā]ā
Or something thatās similar.
-Summary
I want to print the return value of the method(if there is one) and I want to print the value of the argument(if there is one). Anything that can be converted a string and printed is what I want to print. For example, I want to print all primitive types and things like āNSStrings,NSDictionary,NSInteger,NSArray,etcā¦ā ```this is what im going to post hopefully someone can help me
twilit jungle
restive ether
@narrow mason you are fucking dead idiot
narrow mason
primal perch
No not really
twilit jungle
No not really ā¢ļø
burnt niche
Oh damn i am definitely switching to appcode @half walrus
burnt niche
And it has code completion? Im ditching vscode lmfao
peak quartz
Uh, what?
found it here https://tutorialmore.com/questions-1155849.htm
half walrus
Oh damn i am definitely switching to appcode <@676886464042237973>
no logos support so have fun
lapis vessel
Well firstly, you're passing self as the second arg even though self is not a Class
half walrus
if anyone wants something incredibly boring to debate, what's a better name for this method
it processes placeholders in a string and returns a processed string
best practice is usually to not mention object type in method name
peak quartz
@lapis vessel look at that https://gist.github.com/n00neimp0rtant/27829d87118d984232a4
but comments says its broken as of ios 10
burnt niche
I wish vscode had better objective-c support
Like code completion
That would be nice
lapis vessel
The way you've tried is alright if you fix that thing I told you
But I don't understand why you didn't try converting the first thing you sent me from swift
surreal mountain
Like code completion
use sourcekit-lsp
its xcodes autocomplete stuff
but in vscode
half walrus
^ that breaks for me
surreal mountain
^ that breaks for me
how
half walrus
wait this was for logos
peak quartz
But I don't understand why you didn't try converting the first thing you sent me...
cant understand how
surreal mountain
no objc(++)
half walrus
other shit works for non logos yeah
lapis vessel
@peak quartz I told you what it was doing, what part did you not follow?
surreal mountain
no???
half walrus
creates tens of thousands of files
half walrus
i'm pretty sure what he's suggesting works
surreal mountain
what
burnt niche
I just installed it. And damn its bugging tf out
half walrus
its just all too gimmicky for me
surreal mountain
its far far better than nothing
half walrus
i use appcode if there's no logos or vscode with only the logos extension if there is
or appcode if the project is larger than 20 non logos files which is only like 2 projects
burnt niche
@surreal mountain do i just install it from vscode? Do i have to do anything else
tepid olive
Just dont use cringe editor xcode
half walrus
^
use appcode unless u need storyboards
if you write FOSS software they give you a free license for their entire suite of shit
surreal mountain
capt doesnt even do UI
half walrus
but none of that works in tweaks unless you recreate the build system in uh
whatever xcode's build shit is
surreal mountain
no
surreal mountain
if you write FOSS software they give you a free license for their entire suite o...
.
surreal mountain
half walrus
not supposed to use it on commercial so i pay but literally nobody really cares
intellij basically hands out their software
great company
half walrus
so i forgive them for writing it all in java
surreal mountain
love idea
half walrus
lol
half walrus
i still use vscode for most tweaks
surreal mountain
eh
half walrus
cuz most tweaks are pure logos
and whatever dumb objc plugin i have works
let me check
i use mitaki28.vscode-clang
half walrus
i use mitaki28.vscode-clang
it uses clangd
which is part of llvm
so it works w/o any extra setup
burnt niche
Its confusing to setup sourcekit lsp lmfao
half walrus
i use mitaki28.vscode-clang
try this @burnt niche
surreal mountain
it uses clangd
srckit does as well
half walrus
no setup required
half walrus
srckit does as well
it uses an apple fork for swift shit doesn't it?
surreal mountain
Name: SourceKit-LSP - Unofficial CI build
Id: pvasek.sourcekit-lsp--dev-unofficial
Description: Language server for Swift and C/C++/Objective-C
Version: 0.20190711.1
Publisher: Pavel Vasek
VS Marketplace Link: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=pvasek.sourcekit-lsp--dev-unofficial
half walrus
i remember trying it and also thinking "this isn't worth it"
surreal mountain
this has it all done already
half walrus
i dont wanna do that i wanna click button make code go
burnt niche
Same
half walrus
i write tweaks not ide plugin configs
surreal mountain
then dont specify anything
burnt niche
i use mitaki28.vscode-clang
How do i search that up? I cant find it when i look up
primal perch
burnt niche
Is this objc code completion?
half walrus
the one i pasted is
it doesn't work on .xm files
don't expect it to and you'll lose your mind trying to get it working
surreal mountain
question: why isnt cc a symlink
burnt niche
šš alright. Ill just change the extension everytime
surreal mountain
instead its just another bin
half walrus
no it wont process on .xm
surreal mountain
šš alright. Ill just change the extension everytime
symlink
half walrus
on .xm files the logos extension will kick in
and you'll just have regular features w/o the red underlines
half walrus
thatās a logos file so
burnt niche
yup
half walrus
it shouldnāt and it doesnāt look like it is?
half walrus
and .mm
half walrus
oh thatās weird
burnt niche
i have it set up
surreal mountain
thought so
half walrus
do you have the logos extension?
burnt niche
no
half walrus
sec
half walrus
burnt niche
lmfao
half walrus
did you not read me saying
burnt niche
no i didn't lol. should i install this?
half walrus
however it highlights logos syntax as a mistake
.
half walrus
no i didn't lol. should i install this?
yes
half walrus
basic minimal support for logos syntax
lets you fold %hook and %group blocks
has basic support for objc
etc
most people here use it afaik
burnt niche
is it from renai?
half walrus
that one is mine
i've heard about renai's but haven't seen a download link
@gaunt mesa
burnt niche
its on extension page
half walrus
oh neat it's out
burnt niche
im jsut going to uninstall clangd since i don't use .m files
n i ll try the one u sent me
gaunt mesa
hi
gaunt mesa
mine is literally just krits and a few others combined together and deployed on vscode marketplace because i just happened to have an azure deploy key
half walrus
and mine is just the original old one but i added code folding
lord knows who even wrote the first logos plugin
gaunt mesa
i think mine has it too
gaunt mesa
i have a half finished language server
half walrus
have a half started one
gaunt mesa
kek
half walrus
half started activator alternative too
gaunt mesa
ughhh
half walrus
made good progress and then apparently what'hisname is back
gaunt mesa
how does my RDS randomly break
half walrus
Exo is about to make a comeback tho
gaunt mesa
who
half walrus
was about to write placeholder support for chapters and then remembered i already have a placeholder server
gaunt mesa
nice
half walrus
exobar is just a web view that uses it
underrated project
it was supposed to replace xeninfo
but 'calico' was the only person who ever wrote a project that used it !kekw
gaunt mesa
i need to get off technology
i just spent 4 hours on a stupid ass math test and i got 1 question done
half walrus
just have ur internet cut
i spent the earlier half of today doing nothing
it was
wonderful
gaunt mesa
i hate that teachers pile up so much bullshit on the last week of the quarters and semesters
gaunt mesa
if i had the opportunity to i would just sleep
half walrus
they're coming wednesday to fix
gaunt mesa
no internet is poggers
is it comcast
man we have verizon here and its fucking balls
gaunt mesa
fios is shit
half walrus
1 sec
gaunt mesa
google fiber isn't offered in cities anymore
they stopped new cities
and they cut back on their existing ones
lol i have my own router
but i rarely ever get my 1gbps advertised speed
full duplex and yet im getting like 300-400 on wifi and then 20 on ethernet
gaunt mesa
i wish cloudflare proxy anything was free
i have to serve my minecraft server through my hetzner VPS just to be able to mask my actual IP
gaunt mesa
well its not a VPN
gaunt mesa
cloudflare proxy is nginx
and its proxy anything is HAProxy
ofc probably heavily forked and modified
half walrus
a cloudflare proxy prevents your DNS from exposing your server's ip @tepid olive
gaunt mesa
cloudflare proxy only works with HTTP rn tho
half walrus
so, for example, i cant run a brute force on discord.com's ssh
gaunt mesa
a cloudflare proxy prevents your DNS from exposing your server's ip <@4562265777...
the problem is this doesn't work on any kind of TCP just yet
half walrus
dont tell me that bc i just proxied my home IP the other day through it
if its broke i dont wanna know
my internet literally got cut 2 hours afterwards but
lime pivot
a cloudflare proxy prevents your DNS from exposing your server's ip <@4562265777...
*of course you should audit the code you're running to make sure it never leaks your IP
half walrus
i'll leave that to nginx
lime pivot
see: countless tor hidden sites exposing IPs in PHP errors and shit
gaunt mesa
neither do i
half walrus
one of the few things i actually do anything securely on whatsoever lol
out of habit
gaunt mesa
my only concern is if my home IP leaks
so anything hosted at home is proxied via nginx stream to my VPS
and then if proxyable it'll go on cloudflare
lime pivot
ddos incoming
half walrus
line cut
gaunt mesa
FUCK
half walrus
- dont care
gaunt mesa
how do i convert VMWare to Hyper-V
lime pivot
rip vmware
burnt niche
botnet turning on
lime pivot
what happened
half walrus
F
burnt niche
ipstresser.com loading
lime pivot
but esxi is free?
half walrus
oh did u mean like
burnt niche
virtualbox>
gaunt mesa
im using physical windows server 2019
half walrus
a vmware vm in hyperv
lime pivot
for personal use
gaunt mesa
not esxi
lime pivot
oh
tepid olive
qemu
lime pivot
that's disappointing
half walrus
for my
gaunt mesa
because of a few stupid things
lime pivot
I config'd my firewall to only accept cloudflare IPs on port 443 and my IP on port [something other than 22]
so at least I'm sorta covered if my IP is ever exposed
half walrus
oh yeah cloudflare also makes it so i don't have to worry about logs
i think?
they don't expose people's real IP iirc
gaunt mesa
I config'd my firewall to only accept cloudflare IPs on port 443 and my IP on po...
i wouldn't do that
incase u have to ssh temporarily
unless u have some sort of tunnel back home
half walrus
use a private ip then and only accept ssh from that
gaunt mesa
that too
half walrus
that's my emergency backdoor in digitalocean
gaunt mesa
i have it so u can only ssh into my main VPS from the second micro vps
lime pivot
I have a VPN set up to a jumpbox
half walrus
i have to spin up a droplet with password auth enabled
and then log into that, and then log into the private ip with ssh password auth enabled
gaunt mesa
i don't use DO anymore
peak quartz
@lapis vessel i did something
gaunt mesa
cuz its expensive compared to hetzner
half walrus
haha yes
went to google
immediately came up in my results
bc of this bamf
who needs a hard drive
just make a 100gb ramdisk
gaunt mesa
half walrus
and still have more ram than most pcs
gaunt mesa
i pay significantly less
lime pivot
run your database from RAM and pray the machine never crashes š¬
gaunt mesa
true
half walrus
run your database from RAM and pray the machine never crashes š¬
this is going to sound so uninformed
lime pivot
oh cool hetzner has Finland datacentres now
gaunt mesa
they do?
half walrus
could you use RAID for this in a backup setup
gaunt mesa
damn i might have to migrate
half walrus
i don't know how raid works
lime pivot
probably
half walrus
aside from that i have to disable related features to hackintosh
lime pivot
mdadm and zfs probably will literally just work
half walrus
wondering if hardware could handle a ramdisk/nvme style setup
use the ramdisk, keep nvme up to speed with it as much as possible
lime pivot
cause you can just make a mount with tmpfs and go nuts
gaunt mesa
i don't remember my VPS being in nuremberg
half walrus
but the goal of that server was to use it for builds so
grim sparrow
i don't remember my VPS being in nuremberg
L
gaunt mesa
ok
half walrus
i think we were looking at it for drm with velox
custom built copies for each user kinda thing
lime pivot
modern distros make a ramdisk for you at /dev/shm by default actually
when I say modern distros I mean Ubuntu
don't know who else does it
half walrus
is centos modern !uhh
stopped trying to convert people to it because it's truly just
bad
lime pivot
Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 16G 8.0K 16G 1% /dev/shm``` literally half my ram and it's just there by defaultnot like linux is gonna use it
(the ram)
could only get arch to use 7/16 on my laptop
lime pivot
considering it's used a whopping 3 bytes lmao
lime pivot
I run a Windows 10 VM on this machine and as expected it uses all of the 8 GB I allocated to it
half walrus
lemme see what mine uses
lime pivot
because Linux is Linux I also have a useless swap that exists purely to make it not freeze all the time
I still don't know why it does that
or why making a ramdisk even of a useless size fixes it
half walrus
fusion letting me do headless linux vms is nice
truly no reason to install linux anymore
i think headless is the right word
no UI
lime pivot
yeah headless
half walrus
time 2 try this again
lime pivot
why does our industry have an obsession with gruesome names
headless
failed to detach HEAD
half walrus
time 2 yet again remember why this didn't work the last time i tried this
would be funnier if i haven't literally gone through this specific thought process about 7 times now
half walrus
brb doing that
lime pivot
oh um
hold shift when you click shut down
it's Hybrid Shutdownā¢
aka it just logs off and hibernates not actually shut down
half walrus
imagine not holding the power button every time to shut down
lime pivot
man
half walrus
it's like holding a pillow over your PCs face and strangling it to sleep
i'm on a list now probably
lime pivot
I'll never forget my high school IT sent an email out to the entire staff and students saying can you please hold down the power button to update something on your PCs thank you
half walrus
lmao
half walrus
throwback to getting yelled at by teachers for holding the power button to shut down pcs
let me find the image
late ridge
LOLOL
lime pivot
I'll never forget my high school IT sent an email out to the entire staff and st...
I love thinking about what the conversation could have been internally that led to "let's just fix it by asking everyone to hold the power button"
in primary school I had a streak of being Banned From Computers at least once per year
it was amazing
half walrus
were u here for storytime with krit yesterday
lime pivot
one year I was Banned From Computers for amusing myself with the icon selector in shortcut properties
half walrus
about me getting suspended
lime pivot
I was not
half walrus
i feel like thereās a common theme among regulars here
half walrus
I was not
suspended for a week for hacking the main server
they shouldāve paid me
with how insecure everything was
when i came back there were so many new security measures
lime pivot
another year I got away with almost being banned for using "The Internet" without supervision, aka I was fucking around with exporting html from Microsoft Word
half walrus
given, ~10k population kansas town
lime pivot
explained it to the teacher on timeout duty and they were like š¤·āāļø I trust you, you can go now
late ridge
another year I got away with almost being banned for using "The Internet" without supervision, aka I was fucking around with exporting html from Microsoft Word
that's not even bad tho
half walrus
#development message @ kirb
lime pivot
suspended for a week for hacking the main server
yeah see this actually seems slightly more serious than my infractions lmao
lime pivot
hah
lime pivot
I mean my primary school IT was literally just the dad of one of the students
half walrus
which is what got me snitched on
which in retrospect bless that kid for having a big mouth
lime pivot
idk whether he quit or got let go or if he was even being paid but he was so dodgy af it was hilarious
half walrus
better security and everyone knew me for it
and what i even did got spun way out of proportion but i wasnāt complaining
āhacked the school and changed gradesā
yes i absolutely did that 
lime pivot
probably not a thing any more with office 365 but Word used to ask you who you are when you use it for the first time, he somehow achieved Word always using his son's name
half walrus
lmao
lethal ice
tru
lime pivot
so when you open a file that's been locked elsewhere (probably by you), it says "you can't open this file, it's already opened by [son's name]"
he was confronted about snooping in other people's files at least a few times despite never actually doing anything
late ridge
bruh, that's hilarious
lime pivot
this was big Windows 98 vibes so permissions weren't a Thing
half walrus
man and they changed the wifi password to hardware auth
i didnāt even know you could do that
lime pivot
you were just trusted to open the S:\ students network drive and only ever double click your name not someone else's
half walrus
it made it even easier for me to get into but
lime pivot
lmao
lime pivot
I loved dumping the wifi certs from PCs with wifi access
half walrus
i just imaged one of the surface PCs they had for art class
took it home and copied all of the relavent files to my laptop
lime pivot
for at least a year after I graduated I could have showed up at any time, used fucktons of their wifi, and gone home without them realising
half walrus
ex has it rn but
lime pivot
see
my version of this is the school image was Windows 8 so I overwrote it with Windows 10
giving myself that sweet ass local admin
Office license is covered through 365
Adobe license I found the activator exe and key and it totally worked
half walrus
wish macos would ask before reopening stuff
lime pivot
ugh
half walrus
i get to sit through all of these programs opening at once now
bc i held power button to shut down
actually
lime pivot
I untick that box but it "helpfully" reopens all your apps after a panic reboot
lethal ice
in a hundred years you guys will be together in build tool heaven
lime pivot
I wonder if they removed the "do you want to open your apps?" dialog because it says "You restarted your computer due to a problem"
no you restarted my computer bitch
half walrus
if i restart/power down via software it does that
hard power off doesn't bring up the box
lime pivot
all I did was sit frustrated watching it restart on its own
half walrus
i also get the box when macos panics which is very rare
lime pivot
Firefox has been panicking me for 2 weeks now lmao
half walrus
killall -u kritanta & tho
lethal ice
true
half walrus
krib i
half walrus
kritToday at 4:52 PM
just wait till kabir shows up
[4:52 PM]
wait no
lethal ice
half walrus
that sounds awful i kinda want to do it as a joke now
given the whole lack of internet thing
lethal ice
rip
lethal ice
does dragon use python
lime pivot
again if some dude could write a raytracer in cmakeā¦
lethal ice
nice
lethal ice
theos slow sorry kirb
lime pivot
it is
lethal ice
i still use theos tho i can't be bothered to change my build system
half walrus
i'm fairly sure it'd beat theos because theos' design slows it down
lime pivot
just haven't had any damn time to work on it lately
half walrus
i still use theos tho i can't be bothered to change my build system
dragon supports makefile
lethal ice
when are you getting fired again?
half walrus
he already did
lethal ice
oh
lime pivot
yesterday I had the thought to just write a New Theos from the ground up
just see what happens
half walrus
dragon supports makefile
and i really need people to use and break this feature so i can continue improving it
lime pivot
whether it's worth replacing Old Theos or not
lethal ice
what would you write it in
lime pivot
what's the dumbest possible language I could use
half walrus
well
lime pivot
APL?
lethal ice
make
lime pivot
Brainfuck?
half walrus
makefile was the dumbest
lime pivot
Lisp?
lethal ice
lime pivot
Make?
lethal ice
make...
half walrus
like i can't imagine a worse language
lethal ice
@lime pivot write it in C i'd use that
lime pivot
MS-DOS batch file?
half walrus
C would actually be a good one
lime pivot
Abort, Retry, Fail?
lethal ice
if someone wrote a C build system i would use it
lapis vessel
CMakeLists.txt theos
lethal ice
honestly i might write a small C build system that only supports tweaks
would be so fast
lime pivot
to be honest it seems like ninja is the right call? like, you can totally generate an xcodeproj from ninja
half walrus
honestly i might write a small C build system that only supports tweaks
well
lime pivot
no clue if that works with dragon
lapis vessel
@peak quartz you've got to try different stuff out and just see what works. Try the blurRadius private ivar thing u sent me earlier
lethal ice
if i'm gonna write something that i'm gonna be running hundreds-thousands of times per tweak i'm gonna need it to be speedy...
lime pivot
did Google really create a build system for a build system for a build system
half walrus
so if you can beat 0.2 seconds
lethal ice
honestly i'll use c++ just for std::string and std::vector
does dragon build in .2 seconds?
half walrus
ninja builds in 5 seconds
lethal ice
nice work
half walrus
dragon, the generator, finishes in .2
lapis vessel
@peak quartz pretty sure I've told you before to ask questions in public channels not DMs
lime pivot
I mean Theos basically really only does a bit of thinking initially, a bit of waiting for slow as fuck xcrun, and then kicks off a dozen clang and logos.pl and ld and whatever threads
half walrus
if you want to write a full build system in C, fork ninja
lapis vessel
That way other people can help too
half walrus
and remove anything non-tweak related
or hardcode the extremely little logic there is
lime pivot
however I have doubts that make's parallelism is actually as fast as it can get
half walrus
<@227740326587006977> pretty sure I've told you before to ask questions in publi...
pin something like this please
i have to say that a lot
lime pivot
Xcode can really make my laptop fan scream from a 15 sec build
half walrus
not like i don't like ppl im just not the smartest person around
lime pivot
feels like no bullshit no second of CPU time is wasted
lethal ice
nah bro not a build system even
literally just a tweak builder
nothing else
bare minimum
lethal ice
true
lime pivot
you want this
lime pivot
then you only have to occasionally reject friend requests from randoms
lethal ice
uhh imma turn that on kirb thanks
restive ether
if only i could keep that off
lime pivot
so basically it's MS-DOS batch but worse?
lime pivot
lethal ice
where is that setting on mobile?
half walrus
no scripting forces you to write a generator
lethal ice
oh i found it
lapis vessel
you want this
Problem is I don't wanna disable DMs from everyone. Like I'm totally happy if it is a question for me only, like a bug report for one of my tweaks, I just don't want people asking objc questions they could be asking anyone in my DMs
half walrus
meaning the build script processing goes faster
lime pivot
so basically it's MS-DOS batch but worse?
what I find hilarious about batch is that Microsoft only just added a whole slew of missing features (mostly in convoluted ways, but anyway) in XP
half walrus
and your generator is probably much faster than the same logic being evaluated in a turing complete language
lime pivot
good thing they finally made batch useful 15 years after it was already obsolete!
half walrus
i couldn't grasp the lack of scripting at first in ninja
because you can accomplish it anyways by heavily abusing the fact that 'rules' have 'cmds' and 'cmds' support bash syntax
lime pivot
yeah, I would reallllllly prefer to have a generator that could just spit out a completely static makefile
half walrus
i still abuse that from time to time
lime pivot
change anything about your setup? run the generator again
half walrus
@lime pivot https://github.com/dragonbuild/buildgen
iirc makefile syntax isn't done bc i don't know makefile syntax
lol
lime pivot
uro already had something neat or at least was theorising it a while back, generating a compiled-down makefile from all the theos makefiles
variables expanded etc
and apparently it did provide a huge performance boost
@glacial matrix bleep bloop
half walrus
easy enough to add for someone who does though, i already have the makefile-syntax.py and functions in place
half walrus
uro already had something neat or at least was theorising it a while back, gener...
this sounds like my processor lol
well
half walrus
it generates one per module
glacial matrix
I only theorized, no actual implementation of any kind
gaunt mesa
oh yeah
half walrus
module being "thing that's gonna get lipoed"
primal perch
checks out
gaunt mesa
lol
half walrus
although you can lipo multiple together if you so please, invoxi harassed me enough to get that added
š
lethal kayak
uroboro python
primal perch
lipo * and hope it runs
glacial matrix
:P
primal perch
half walrus
I could have it generate a single build.ninja
gaunt mesa
does dragon support bundles without code
gaunt mesa
might be time to migrate 
glacial matrix
Great, now I lost the unread tracker. Discord is š© at that
half walrus
also stage
gaunt mesa
discord is š© in general
half walrus
aka just a bash script in the dragonmake
stage commands on each module like usual
but you can also make a stage type module that has nothing but stage commands that run
gaunt mesa
my concern is that sometimes dragon just doesn't work u know
primal perch
discord is š© in general
electron moment
half walrus
v true
gaunt mesa
electron moment
nah electron + react
gaunt mesa
vscode proved electron isn't bad to an extent
half walrus
my issue is when it doesnt work people dont @ me here
glacial matrix
if you write FOSS software they give you a free license for their entire suite o...
š¤
gaunt mesa
and it was worse cuz we had different terminal sizes
gaunt mesa
yeah i forgot
half walrus
dragon supports toolchains perfectly if you just add it to your path on linux
gaunt mesa
it was tmux based
half walrus
oh yeah i also made it non-directory dependent sometime in december
gaunt mesa
i just use xcode select and then hikari loaded via -Xclang -load
half walrus
which they were for some unknown reason abusing
gaunt mesa
abusing how?
half walrus
didn't use the install command, just git cloned and manually typed out the entire directory path
to the main script
every time
gaunt mesa
lol
gaunt mesa
yeah
half walrus
dab
pip owner of dragon hasn't gotten back yet
they did once
but not a second time
gaunt mesa
there is probably a package called dragon on some obscure asf tap
i like that dragon uses yaml
pretty much everything config related i use is in yaml now
gaunt mesa
rip
glacial matrix
F
half walrus
nah just the POC still have the code i wrote for it
.
might be able to guess what this does
gaunt mesa
plist
half walrus
what's the point of writing an entire preference bundle when sometimes all you want to do is edit the basic plist
half walrus
haven't clicked the "format code" button yet