development

[primal perch]

Objc is just built different

[gaunt mesa]

ive written a full ass language server

[primal perch]

[gaunt mesa]

and i hate the code in it

to detect when to supply objective C class autocompletion

also sometimes the FUCKING TREE command for sdks just doens't work

[half walrus]

@gaunt mesa

[gaunt mesa]

its 5:11am i have 0 interest going to my desk now

[half walrus]

git push smh my head

or is it on gh already

[gaunt mesa]

no

[half walrus]

sad cat emoji

[gaunt mesa]

its on the old VM that adam knows about

the one i have like 15-20 uncommitted projects

[half walrus]

oo that sounds familiar

[gaunt mesa]

im scared to transfer those to VMWare

ill probably just tar them and use station 307 or sm

[half walrus]

"why is pagebar weird on ios 13"

[primal perch]

Music just hits different in the dark in bed

[half walrus]

ykw i wonder if i have like

any version of the source in a private gh somewhere

[gaunt mesa]

my github is relatively oragnized

only 182 repos

[half walrus]

mood

how do you organize a gh though

[lime pivot]

I deleted so many old repos like a year ago

[gaunt mesa]

meaningful repo names, frequently prune repos

[lime pivot]

there was shit dating back to like 2011

[half walrus]

its just a glorified index.html

[lime pivot]

like man

what the fuck

[gaunt mesa]

i had this repo where i fucked something up

so i committed all of it at 0 epoch

so 1970

[lime pivot]

me_irl

[primal perch]

My eyes

[gaunt mesa]

[lime pivot]

I can uh probably rename that top repo

[primal perch]

I’m just chillin in the dark then all of a sudden white

[gaunt mesa]

[lime pivot]

the 3rd one is also wrong it's now hashbang.productions

[half walrus]

no excuse for light mode gh in 2021

[gaunt mesa]

wttf is roff

[lime pivot]

fuck knows

[primal perch]

Ur kidding right

It can’t be 2021

That just sounds wrong

[half walrus]

[gaunt mesa]

its december 32

lets just go with that

[lime pivot]

it's mostly makefiles in that repo

[primal perch]

Ffs 2021

[half walrus]

ppl sayin 'thank god 2020 is over'

bro mf doom died

[gaunt mesa]

cydia.hbang.ws is repo.chariz.com right?

[lime pivot]

yeah

[half walrus]

you think this year is gonna get better when that's how it started

[primal perch]

1991 is further than 2050

[gaunt mesa]

me waiting for the day chariz gives me a job

[lime pivot]

it just, accidentally became The Chariz Repo 2 years ago when coolstar decided to add it as a default overnight without discussing with me first

[primal perch]

Wtf

[lime pivot]

but anyway I'm not salty

ok it's decided all the filenames which are package versions are Roff for some unknown reason

[gaunt mesa]

serious

i mean my private twitter literally has that

[lime pivot]

TIL 1.1 is a Roff file and not a control file

[primal perch]

Tf

[primal perch]

I’m saying wtf to 1991 being closer than 2050

[lime pivot]

I love that it actually knows what this is and separately lists it

[gaunt mesa]

LMAO

[primal perch]

[half walrus]

lol

[lime pivot]

man

[half walrus]

.0 is apparently like

[lime pivot]

this damn thing still has a bower file

[half walrus]

idk what it is but apple recognizes it differently

[lime pivot]

legitimately old as fuck

[half walrus]

and it screws with my /Applications/IDA 7.0

doesn't treat it like a dir

bc of good ol apple "directory types"

[lime pivot]

are you sure you want to change the file extension to ".0"? the expected file extension is ".zip" you fucking numbskull

hah, I mean, there's a fun history of why we have directories

it's way better than the alternative classic Mac OS used where you stored other files within a file

using resource forks

god that was bad

if you ever touch a non-HFS filesystem, your app's resource assets just disappear

[gaunt mesa]

damn winter break ends in 4 days

[lime pivot]

it's like how Windows uses PE which can contain arbitrary files inside it, except at the filesystem level

[half walrus]

.app bundles are actually a really neat design and i wish tweaks would adopt it

[gaunt mesa]

thonk

[half walrus]

the current method is just "cram every tweak's dylibs into the same dir and hope there isn't a collission"

[lime pivot]

also why when the internet started getting big, StuffIt Expander was basically vital to shipping your app online

any other zip tool just wouldn't work

[half walrus]

which works for jb but like

why not go for something better yknow

[gaunt mesa]

that actually makes sense

[lime pivot]

yeah um saurik kinda decided he's against using bundles for some reason

[gaunt mesa]

literally every other file in my tweak is in the bundle

[half walrus]

bc debian masterrace

why use darwin standards when we can just make ios debian

not like ios is darwin or anything

[lime pivot]

it's a shame, because now with the moving target of constant sandbox rule changes, dirs like DynamicLibraries keep having to move around

[gaunt mesa]

okay why is objective c and RSA a pain

[lime pivot]

it'd be better if you could just have TypeStatus.bundle with every asset it needs inside there

[half walrus]

cough cough

[lime pivot]

SIMBL and Opee worked that way

[half walrus]

https://github.com/kdvt/nouveau

[gaunt mesa]

lol

[half walrus]

had to overengineer this to get people to shut up

[lime pivot]

but SIMBL also expected you to have an NSPrincipalClass, and implement all your hooking logic in the +load of that class

which is a bit silly

[gaunt mesa]

bundle types

[half walrus]

but it essentially uses bundles for tweaks as well

allowing tweak packaging to no longer depend on any directory structure crap whatsoever

[lime pivot]

I'd make the extension like .tweak though cause it sounds cool, and you could have it so a double click runs a tweak installer

[gaunt mesa]

that's good

.idiot

[lime pivot]

like how you can have a .fcplibrary which opens FCP and immediately imports it for you

[lime pivot]

you are an

[half walrus]

https://github.com/kDVt/nouveau/blob/master/package-structure/directory-structure.md dab

[gaunt mesa]

.app .bundle .xctoolchain

[lime pivot]

I wonder if nouveau might be useful to a certain thing I want to work on

[gaunt mesa]

oh that thing 😉

[lime pivot]

hmm

[half walrus]

i just did everything as .bundle types because how do you differentiate a library you compile that you want to inject vs one you dlopen

[gaunt mesa]

👀

[half walrus]

and it feels cleaner to indicate that kind of thing in an Info.plist instead

[gaunt mesa]

adam u know exactly what i'm talking about

[lime pivot]

yeah I do lmao

[half walrus]

as in, no indication if it's not being injected, if it is indicate so

[lime pivot]

I know you know what I know what you know that I know

[gaunt mesa]

what u know that you told me so i know

[half walrus]

what thing i feel left out

and also now have a headache

[lime pivot]

I feel like that's a good thing a custom extension could do though

[gaunt mesa]

yeah but .chariz

[lime pivot]

TypeStatus.tweak so you just know that's the bundle that injects somewhere

[gaunt mesa]

.firebang

[lime pivot]

sounds like I'm applying to pay $20k/year for a vanity TLD

[gaunt mesa]

is it 20k a year?

[lime pivot]

https://store.chariz/

[gaunt mesa]

jeez

[half walrus]

lol i had to spend far too long on this concept project explaining how it could be accomplished via adding a line to the depends: of projects that use it

[lime pivot]

yeah it's basically a forced donation to ICANN

I think it's actually higher than that for vanity TLDs

[half walrus]

and having a single package that shims/modifies/etc substrateloader to use the nouveau system

[lime pivot]

for open TLDs anyone can buy a domain on, it's apparently just there as a way to prove to ICANN that you have the financial capacity to run a TLD

[gaunt mesa]

jailbreaks need a new design

[half walrus]

yep

[gaunt mesa]

but everything is stable rn

so no incentive

like the whole procursus and elu thing

[lime pivot]

yeah, I mean, everything is totally rock solid now

[half walrus]

combining nouveau and rootless for leviathan

[lime pivot]

the only bumpy bit as of late was iOS 11 killing 32-bit and the shift to KPPless which was pretty much necessary

[half walrus]

which is barely even a failbreak currently, wasn't even that publicly hyped, but atm its (kinda) a dead codebase I get to have fun with

13.7 support may or may not be almost finished

[lime pivot]

…and even then most of the inconvenience with iOS 11 was just that saurik didn't feel like recompiling the world for 64-bit in the 4 years he had to do so

[half walrus]

combining nouveau's and rootless' structure allows regular tweaks to be installed and loaded without a rootfs remount or users needing to patch the tweaks

[lime pivot]

although he says that was slightly for moral reasons as he intentionally doesn't agree to the terms and conditions of recent Xcode versions

[half walrus]

don't know if i ever see leviathan getting public release but it'll allow me to create working POCs for nouveau

[half walrus]

ur making that up right

i hope that's a joke, but honest to god i'm not sure

[lime pivot]

no I asked once and that was the legitimate answer

[half walrus]

reads like an onion headline

[lime pivot]

apparently saurik's toolchain is from like iPhone OS 2 beta 6 SDK or some shit

[half walrus]

lol

[lime pivot]

because Apple accidentally released it with the wrong developer terms, that effectively absolves saurik of anything they could legally come after him for

[half walrus]

that's

interesting

[lime pivot]

like, I can understand that in the early days, especially as if they had to target someone, they would probably target him

[half walrus]

what issues do the others have

bc we all just ctrl c ctrl v them into GH repos and distribute for theos/dragon

[lime pivot]

in Modern Times it's clear Apple only has those clauses in there to cover their ass if they ever have to sue someone for something that's objectively bad

eg they've never gone after hackintoshing as a community thing, but they definitely have multiple times sued PC builders who specifically advertised prebuilt hackintoshes

like it does feel a bit slimy, but then again, their revenue stream is still mostly the hardware not the software (back then it was definitely almost completely hardware)

so they have to stop other hardware entering the market where they make no revenue on it

[half walrus]

legal

not right but legal to do, ig

[lime pivot]

well the Xcode agreement just has the boilerplate thing everyone does like do not reverse engineer especially not for commercial gain

which like, even Microsoft does

[half walrus]

isn't that unenforcable

[lime pivot]

but Microsoft strongly encourages security research on their products so that you won't be scared to report bugs to them rather than selling them underground

[half walrus]

see: tetherfree thing

[lime pivot]

so Microsoft legal department says don't do this but Microsoft engineering says please do this

yeah see, I'd personally consider it hard to enforce in most situations

there are a few situations where I think it works and it's totally cool to go after people for it

such as prebuilt hackintoshes, like, yeah that kinda isn't cool it cuts into Apple's revenue stream

I don't give two fucks about Apple's revenue, but like, one guy doing it could quickly normalise it happening in PC shops nationwide, and that really can start eroding revenue pretty badly, so best to just keep a tough stance on it and attack the few instances that do show up despite Apple's history of litigation with them

of course people realising access to macOS doesn't need to cost as much is also an image problem

so like, just being an obscure niche community seems to be fine with Apple, and they really don't care that tweak devs and hackintoshers use Apple dev tools against their best interests

[half walrus]

gotta love em

i need a taskbar counter that counts how many times i try to use a macos keyboard shortcut on windows

photoshop is killing me

[lime pivot]

I can handle jumping between cmd and ctrl, but ctrl-A ctrl-E are far too ingrained in me at this point as left-handed shortcuts for home and end

which make a lot of sense on macOS because ctrl is mostly unused

[half walrus]

keep hitting cmd+z on here

[lime pivot]

but ^A kinda has another meaning on Windows/Linux…

[half walrus]

which, i'm on windows, so that opens the start menu and types z

which is not what i'm goin for

[lime pivot]

heh

[half walrus]

i could auto-hotkey the issue away but lord knows what unforseen problems that'll create for me

[lime pivot]

better than doing like win-s and accidentally summoning cortana

worse on slow pcs where it takes like 20 secs to open a thing you didn’t actually want

[half walrus]

thank god for auto-save

who needs <modifier>+s

[lime pivot]

at least on Linux you can pretty easily remap keys, there’s a US Mac layout that swaps ctrl and meta around

[half walrus]

macos afaik makes it easy to remap as well

windows has autohotkey i guess

[lime pivot]

and you can be galaxy brain and remap caps lock to ctrl or esc

[half walrus]

kinda how it goes with windows

does just as much as every other OS only because someone 12 years ago put out an ancient x86 app that does that exact thing

[lime pivot]

I love that Apple’s solution to people hating the touch bar replacing the esc key was to just silently add caps lock and esc to the key remapping dialog

[half walrus]

lol

is touchbar actually any use

aside from an interesting novelty

i feel like making phsyical keys with LED screens is where we should be in 2020

[lime pivot]

I find it useful in apps that bother to take advantage of it at all DISCORD

it’s extremely useful in WebStorm cause I can put any menu action on the touch bar

in Xcode it’s somewhat useful because you have the run/stop buttons, plus a few useful ones when you’re in interface builder

in Mail I love to efficiently triage my overflowing inbox by quickly tapping an action on the touch bar instead of clicking

also when debugging in Xcode you get this bugspray button in the right control strip, which gives you dark mode toggle and other useful debugging shit

it also allows me to adjust brightness of my external monitor just as easily as the laptop monitor

less important now because big sur has brightness controls for all your monitors in control centre, though

[half walrus]

man

what a year

a shit year but what a year

[lime pivot]

mmmmm yep

[half walrus]

ended on the best note possible for me but what a journey

[lime pivot]

I set myself up for a very different 2021 after a shitty 2020

hopefully it goes well

and same for you

[half walrus]

can relate there yeah

might be homeless for a few months but not a sleeping-on-the-streets homeless

[lime pivot]

is that what you told me about a while back?

as long as you have somewhat safe accommodation + electricity + internet + money for food I guess

[half walrus]

i mean i've decided (yesterday) that i'm telling the parents i'm living with rn about it

[lime pivot]

expecting it to go down badly?

[half walrus]

not sure what to expect but being disowned + kicked out is definitely something i'm expecting

i might get pleasantly surprised

[lime pivot]

well, good thing you're planning with that in mind anyway

[half walrus]

either way, i cant go back to living how i was before now, and i'm going to be happier regardless of what happens

[lime pivot]

I really need to make a life change including moving out so I get that vibe

I have the money for it

I'm just… like… scared to actually do it

[half walrus]

just tell ur parents ur <x thing they've spent your entire life saying is demonic> and force the change

[lime pivot]

tbh I think they wouldn't hate it that much

[half walrus]

genuinely though; never been as scared to move back out myself, just haven't been able to get the resources + some credit score related shit complicates it

[lime pivot]

they'd really reconsider their view of me and where they went wrong for sure

[half walrus]

hence the potential not-having-a-place-till-may

[lime pivot]

but I don't think they'd go as far as disowning me

[half walrus]

oh lord i can already hear my mother going off

shit might break her honestly

what happens when you live your entire life in a bubble

[lime pivot]

ugh credit score can be a real fucking damper on good plans

[half walrus]

and i'm telling her the second before i leave so they have a few days to cool down while i'm off in the city for the weekend, so

[lime pivot]

I'm scared I'll be fucked for credit in a month's time because suddenly my stable $xxxx/month has stopped coming in

[half walrus]

wonder how she's going to react to her 'son' being one of the groups of people she's spent her entire life shitting on

[lime pivot]

where that leaves me with moving out, don't know

[half walrus]

some people snap out of it when it becomes personal and real

[lime pivot]

man, I just don't understand how people can feel so entitled to dictate how other people live their lives

[half walrus]

she's so indoctrinated (ignore the fact that the bible says nothing about trans people, not like christians read it anyways) it'll be interesting to see

it's just hate porn

same r/politics shit

people tune in to a thing

[lime pivot]

as long as they're not leeching off the taxpayer or similar problems that could have larger negative societal effects just stfu and let them be happy

[half walrus]

thing makes them angry

they're addicted to that feeling

they tune in tomorrow too

[lime pivot]

it feels like a very America-specific thing, as much as it definitely happens here and Europe and everywhere else

[half walrus]

fox/msnbc/several subs on reddit formula

[lime pivot]

dunno, it's just like the US has figured out exactly how to capitalise on people's feelings for profit, by simply making them mad all the time

I can't figure out for the life of me why dad loves to watch the 6 pm news and comment on how terrible every headline is

[half walrus]

hate groups of people they've never encountered in real life bc some libertarian chud on fox told em they're supposed to bc <reads some twitter strawman caricature cringe shit and treats it like it represents lgbtq+ entirely>

[lime pivot]

yes dad I know someone being stabbed is bad

[half walrus]

ikr

i've tried to talk to em about like

that kind of shit, and persisted at em

[lime pivot]

I don't exactly need to be aware of it like it's gonna affect me living in one of the higher-class suburbs

[half walrus]

like why the fuck are they so invested in NY/CA/TX politics/politicians

[lime pivot]

sounds ignorant as fuck but it's true, I really don't need to care

[half walrus]

live in kansas, haven't left the state in years, don't even know what the capitals of those states are

just that the dumb libruls r ruining my america, tucker carlson said so!!1

next they'll be rapin the kids in the bathrooms bc all lgbt people are pedos!!!111

[lime pivot]

I really really dislike those extended monologue about current event shows

not just right-wing ones

[half walrus]

any of em

dont tell me what to think

just read the info

god bless NPR's news now podcast

[lime pivot]

to speak for that long you need all this evidence researched, and you need to respond quickly while it's still fresh in people's minds

I just don't trust them to have the true story that quickly

[half walrus]

it's amazing how, condensed down, takes like 3 minutes to sum up the whole day in news

[lime pivot]

yeah, I listen to that and a few similar podcasts

means I get the same news fed to my ears like 3 times in a row but I get to get a few perspectives on it

usually all the same though honestly

[half walrus]

but they'll get 4 conservatives and a 'liberal' guy they all collectively attack on air (not making this up) and call it a balanced panel, then report on what some random on twitter said bc they can use it to make <minority group> look bad

like man even if that type of show is your shit how does it not get old

[lime pivot]

that's not at all to say there's no bias in the media, just that I don't see good reason to be biased about most topics

[half walrus]

then you can take your pick of 'angry old conservative white man rants about lgbt/democrats for an hour"

which describes 5 of their shows off the top of my head

[lime pivot]

just a select few topics that also happen to be very important to the functioning of the country

[half walrus]

there's selection bias in media, and NPR even prefaces conflicts of interest with their sponsorships on the show, which is nice

[lime pivot]

I don't understand why the "liberal guy" has to agree to that

[half walrus]

but with opinion media it's just

not even acting like it's unbiased

[lime pivot]

I'm sure they get booked often and the same shit happens

[half walrus]

it's the same dude, he's on staff at fox

works for em, gets paid very well i'm sure

[lime pivot]

also, panels on news shows is like something I only seem to see happen in America

[half walrus]

there's a reason fox got banned from the UK lol

[lime pivot]

like it's an easy (but not exactly cheap) way to act like you're not portraying one single guy's narrative

because look at that, Guest 1, 2, and 3 all have their own different opinion and are talking over each other to try and present it to the audience!

[half walrus]

nah not even that far

[lime pivot]

look at how balanced we are guys!

don't ban us from the airwaves please

[half walrus]

guest 1,2,3,4 all agree, and barely let guest 5 get a word out before they start giving him shit

[lime pivot]

ugh

I mean, conflict always sells

"if it bleeds it leads" common saying about the news

[half walrus]

oh lol also

wanna guess which one is the one picked to represent 'liberal' views

hint: lol

[lime pivot]

a panel where everyone is in true agreement and they just bring up facts one at a time, man

I need that simpsons meme on speed dial

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e7/28/3f/e7283ff1c29e97db9059f821d77f7eb3.gif

[half walrus]

idk if i'm reading too much into it tbh, not my area to get offended

[lime pivot]

TIL I actually can have it on speed dial

[half walrus]

just unsurprising that 'four straight white conservatives berate a black 'democrat' that spouts dumb talking points and gets shut down is one of their most successful shows

[lime pivot]

man, it had to be the black guy?? lmao man

[half walrus]

ikr

[lime pivot]

they couldn't have tried just a little bit to virtue signal that We Aren't Racist Actually

[half walrus]

never thought much about it but

cmon be subtle at least

[lime pivot]

like how megacorps compensate for their hiring processes being heavily biased towards white males by creating quotas for hiring minorities

[half walrus]

they were so successful in framing BLM as a terrorist movement that they got my lifelong <local team> fan stepfather to stop watching football entirely bc players kneeled

[lime pivot]

it's a problem but like forcing a "fix" into your hiring process isn't solving it by any means

[half walrus]

i too remember when BLM sent pipe bombs to senators and tried to overthrow their government

oh wait nvm those were trump supporters

[lime pivot]

more like invest money in software dev education for minorities and they should eventually trickle in naturally

wasn't there some stupid confusing thing back in the few weeks of George Floyd protests where everyone was like #BLM!!! but I mean the movement not the organisation, they're kinda fucked up

[half walrus]

conservatives have made this difficult to argue against by tying that to the rest of their disgusting platform

[lime pivot]

and people hated that obama was like "how exactly do you get people on board with a movement where the catchphrase is ACAB"

[half walrus]

like up until literally today i'm not really able to comment on the lack of cis women in tech without looking transphobic, thanks to a ton of awful people using shit like that to invalidate those people

[lime pivot]

I'm going to hell for saying that I think

but the intent is unclear to me as an outsider who didn't really fully understand the problem until recently

[half walrus]

was a grassroots movement w/o an organizer and no clear real goals

wasn't really a slogan chosen, just a common sentiment that's kinda hard to argue with given current state of US police's rampant corruption

[lime pivot]

I always feel extremely unqualified to have an opinion about civil issues such as BLM/ACAB, gender/race bias in the tech industry, etc

I just stay faithful that things will improve in my lifetime I guess

we knew no progress would be made under Trump, whether progress will be made under Biden with an ex-cop VP I definitely doubt

[half walrus]

don't think we're going anywhere

but not backwards is a start

[lime pivot]

I'm sick of seeing things just stand still of course

[half walrus]

at least i'm ineligible for the draft now thanks trump

[lime pivot]

hey that's a benefit lmao

[half walrus]

exactly yeah

people complaining about it but like

[lime pivot]

I really don't see why exactly it's a good thing to send the country's best young adults to their death when instead they can be creating value for the local economy at home

[half walrus]

bc military money gets funneled back to the people who pay the guys who make the laws concerning military money

and how're you gonna justify wasting $671 billion dollars a year on your military in peacetime without enlisting a bunch of poor desperate high school grads

[lime pivot]

the age group most likely to try and be entrepreneurial and hopefully come out with a profitable business, while also providing real ongoing benefit to society, rather than just being paid really well to go to a scary place and hopefully not die, if you survive then hopefully don't get PTSD!

[half walrus]

the people who succeed in the entrepreneurial world's parents aren't poor enough to require military service to get through college

[lime pivot]

would much rather those brains be put to use on things other than how can I kill this dude without being killed myself

yeah, great country and all

[half walrus]

gotta bomb the middle east so they dont go

i can't even think of a silly made up reason to do it

why is our military there lol

go invade canada or something makes as much sense

[lime pivot]

there was a tweet thread a few weeks back about a middle eastern family who had to go to a US court to demand compensation for their <12 year old son being killed

[half walrus]

lol bet that went well

[lime pivot]

due to a bomb being dropped illegally (by US law) near civilians or something

[half walrus]

i wasn't aware they were bombing things other than civillians

[lime pivot]

heartbreaking as fuck that's something we can even vaguely joke about

[half walrus]

not much of a joke even really

hear about it constantly

nothing we as citizens can do about it

i've got my own rights, right to exist now, to worry about

vote every few years on whether we want our bombs to have pride flags or confederate ones painted on, that's about it lol

[lime pivot]

it's a big deal that trans is even a thing you can be very public about at all of course

as much as Some People wish you wouldn't exist

at least your government isn't going to tell you to gfy for it

[half walrus]

yeah thank god

not that i'd really like a soul to know honestly

[lime pivot]

yeah I mean

[half walrus]

dream is for people to have no idea but yknow

not risking my life hiding it kinda thing

[lime pivot]

if you look and sound feminine and have a feminine name most of the time I doubt someone could pick it out without knowing more about you

[half walrus]

sound feminine
shame every podcast episode i was in's audio got borked

[lime pivot]

it's really down to just fitting societal norms of How A Female Should Look And Behave

which feels dumb

[half walrus]

what a wacky mishap

[lime pivot]

~oops~

I never got to listen to any of them

wouldn't have cared who sounds like what just like to listen to people I respect talk about interesting shit

[half walrus]

everywhere else i'm passing except

voice is gonna be a bitch

[granite frigate]

r/transvoice

[half walrus]

if i relax my throat my vocal range is pretty close to corpse's lol

[half walrus]

I already know a lot of the stuff needed to get it done, the 2 year's of pointless heavy metal vocal practice long ago coming in clutch

[lime pivot]

is it a thing you can kinda just teach yourself to change with habit? do you know?

[granite frigate]

yeah

[half walrus]

pitch is where i'm struggling lol

yeah

it'll blow your mind like

[granite frigate]

your voice is very malleable

[lime pivot]

I feel obliged to link heavy metal Rick Astley

[half walrus]

you think 'feminine' and 'masculine' voice but it's literally just bc of habits picked up by each gender

and it's wild how little it takes to change your association

[granite frigate]

habits can be changed ofc but it takes some practice to pull it off consistently

[lime pivot]

that's pretty cool

[half walrus]

best example i can think of is if u've ever played an online game and someone was talking in VC

and you genuinely can't tell if they're 12 or female

[lime pivot]

well at least it seems feasible

heh, pre-pubetic voices are always high pitch and "cute"

[half walrus]

the highest note in my vocal range is still a bit below adele's lowest though lol

[granite frigate]

prepubescent

[lime pivot]

that's the word

[half walrus]

so i get to be essentially a mute till

well

hopefully hrt helps who knows

i barely talk anyways so /shrug

[granite frigate]

hrt/going on E will not change your vocal cords

[half walrus]

yeah lord knows

[lime pivot]

think it'll be kinda sorta acceptable to sound awkwardly not like your appearance if you're just away from judgemental people (parents etc)?

I mean ones you already know are judgemental

[half walrus]

not gonna change that but my vocal range currently isn't likely the full range

[lime pivot]

not like the dude serving you at walmart

[half walrus]

it's acceptable but not to me if that makes sense

[granite frigate]

its a 50/50 everytime u interact with anyone when presenting as yourself/female

[lime pivot]

yeah fair

[half walrus]

like a lot of this, whole face reveal and all of that

had nothing to do with what everyone else thinks

[lime pivot]

makes sense you kinda stress out about it more than others probably care

cause the whole identity thing matters way more to you

[half walrus]

waited to come out, put a face to the name, etc, till i accepted me ig

[lime pivot]

fair

[half walrus]

care too much about what others are gonna think and ur asking to get burned

[lime pivot]

I know you're a human anyway of course lmao

well

[half walrus]

idk some people seem surprised

[lime pivot]

don't know if you're human

one day I'll meet you and find out for sure 👀

[half walrus]

https://twitter.com/rullinoiz/status/1344931232262471680?s=20

Rullin Oiz (@rullinoiz)

@arm64e damn i thought you was a robot

Twitter · Jan 1, 2021, 8:59 AM

[granite frigate]

^

[lime pivot]

confirmed a few friends are actually people and not just a bunch of pixels early last year

[half walrus]

https://twitter.com/acarbone_0314/status/1344890401384255488?s=20

bubble cat (@acarbone_0314)

@arm64e #KRITISAREALPERSON

Twitter · Jan 1, 2021, 6:17 AM

[lime pivot]

damn I can't say earlier this year any more

lmao

[half walrus]

krit is finally confirmed not nepeta

well

i guess we'd need nep face reveal for that but nep would never do that which should be proof enough

[lime pivot]

how can I be so sure

both are trans women 👀

think I've seen nep face

can't remember if in… strange conditions or not

let's leave it at that

[half walrus]

neat

[half walrus]

^

did she ever un-disappear

[lime pivot]

yeah earlier this … last year

[half walrus]

she was doing some weird publicity shit earlier this month i think

[granite frigate]

she did reappear last year then died again

[lime pivot]

lmao I was sceptical because of the fake twitter accounts made on her old usernames

[half walrus]

she just rejoined the community to try and help promote a friend of hers' design service lol

not sure how that went

[lime pivot]

I sent her a gpg encrypted message and she successfully decrypted it with her key

just had to be sure…

I wish she kept in touch with me after rage deleting everything, but meh, she kinda needed some space

[half walrus]

didn't doubt it for a second

[lime pivot]

lmao

yep can confirm real nep lmao

[half walrus]

she still has a discord

[lime pivot]

we chatted about linux stuff so I think that's plenty of proof in addition to the gpg thing

[half walrus]

sends me her music occasionally

[lime pivot]

never listened to it…

I'm a bad friend

feels sad to see someone disappear but it's usually because they realised they don't actually enjoy what they're doing

same applied to samg if I remember right

and others

[tardy narwhal]

well she got bullied out though

[half walrus]

https://clyp.it/user/bvoiurnv whelp

[tardy narwhal]

because of the whole cs fiasco and people half stitching together fake screens

[half walrus]

damn she really did wipe everything

[lime pivot]

right, but I think she wanted out as a whole also

[half walrus]

she's not dead though

chatted with her at some point after she did that without realizing she had though

[lime pivot]

like man straight out of high school I started a film degree with a high school friend, both of us quit after a semester

I went and worked as software dev for a company for 2.5 years and he drives a forklift at a factory

funny how life goes

[tardy narwhal]

that’s quite the turn

[lime pivot]

sometimes feel guilty that I'm probably the most ahead in life goals of all my high school friends

yet also deeply broken 🤷‍♀️

[half walrus]

everyone moves at different rates

takes 10 years for some people to even get on their feet anymore

[tardy narwhal]

Comparing lives only yields sadness mostly, i guess it’s fine to check but interpret too much and you’ll wind up guilt tripping

[lime pivot]

one (ex-)friend was legit straight up scamming people with paid get rich quick youtube tutorials, fake brand of him being dirty rich at age 21, etc

dude legitimately just ran a drop shipped watch shopify for 2 years and probably made a few thousand, not that much

spent all of it on renting helicopters and mercedes for insta photos

[granite frigate]

[lime pivot]

👀

[granite frigate]

👀

[lime pivot]

kinda hurt cause it was a private school in a wealthy area

[tardy narwhal]

🌈messages are logged🌈

[lime pivot]

logging is bad for the environment

[half walrus]

i stand by what i said lol

deletions are for comedic effect only

[lime pivot]

chariz server is not logged and proud of it

[half walrus]

krit server is not logged bc i'm lazy

same with my website

[granite frigate]

u got a server?

[lime pivot]

can't imagine giving any kind of a fuck what your users are saying as long as it's not spam / *phobic

[half walrus]

no logging/user data stored because i'm too lazy to do anything other than get nginx running Privacy™️

[tardy narwhal]

lmao sanic logs by default unless you turn it off

and you need to set 1 additional header if you need logging

[lime pivot]

privacy policy: I don't collect anything ✅
(actually I have google analytics and crash reporting and it's a twitter client so twitter is reselling your data for profit but shh)

[half walrus]

i had it log to a screen session iirc

just so i could watch purchases in real time lol

only data that would've been stored by my server is IP in apache logs and udid in a DRM "database"

[lime pivot]

app store privacy policy thing is a shitfest of companies either abusing it to make it hard to parse what they're doing (see: facebook), or pretending they're angels and their apache default logging isn't effectively tracking your coarse location

[tardy narwhal]

that’s alright though but needs to be disclosed in case of gdpr claim

[tepid olive]

gm

[lime pivot]

gm

[half walrus]

which was admittedly poorly secured, but password auth was disabled and the only way in was the sanic instance and ssh keyauth

[tardy narwhal]

or at least on your site that ip is being logged

[lime pivot]

yep, at some point I'll ditch IP logging entirely from Chariz

[half walrus]

when it comes to a repo with paid content i honestly feel like that's implied, even though udid and IP doesn't really seem like sensitive data

[lime pivot]

or use hashed IPs to detect abuse patterns

[tardy narwhal]

Implied or not, it’s personal data which you need to disclose on your site

[lime pivot]

I mean very likely you're giving me your exact billing address anyway via PayPal…

I don't want your billing address, but EU KYC requires me to collect it

[half walrus]

while i intend to get around to compliance with that stuff, it's not a priority

[tardy narwhal]

Not tryna play devils advocate though, idc mostly about it but I got in trouble for logging and not disclosing enough by sysadmins lmao

evaded a fine just by a slim margin

[half walrus]

i am sysadmins

[lime pivot]

cookie law, GDPR: don't store/use data the user hasn't explicitly allowed

KYC: please store billing addresses of every customer for 3 years

[lime pivot]

fine? how

[tardy narwhal]

Because in accordance to the GDPR i am forced to disclose that I collectd IP addresses because it’s personal data & the cookies used. I’m also EU based in Germany, our laws also hold tight grip on violaters

[half walrus]

literally everything anymore:
Please select your privacy settings:
[x] Send us all ur shit
[x] Send 3rd parties ur shit
... repeat for 43 more rows

Compliant™️

[lime pivot]

it makes me uneasy to store any user data beyond ok your username is kirb and your hashed udid is this and it's an iPhone XS on iOS 13.5 and you purchased these things

[half walrus]

• the fun ol game of "how much can i disable without the OS/website locking me out of features i need"

[tardy narwhal]

someone also reported me and that got me trouble, although whoever did it is an asshole

[lime pivot]

but I need certain things to streamline the UX as customers expect, sellers want analytics, and governments want me to store or not store certain things

oh, I guess it makes sense being in the EU

just… surprised someone really wanted to hit you about what sounds like effectively a side project

[tardy narwhal]

yeah outside eu vs inside I’d suppose some things go different in terms of gdpr. And you’re right, jealous idiots really don’t want you to succeed

and bless I cut off toxic friends year by year

[lime pivot]

I think I'm GDPR compliant but god, who knows

[tardy narwhal]

Lmao if you want I can ask my dad’s friend to gloss over

[lime pivot]

I don't exactly have money to throw at an auditing firm to certify for me

that sounds useful actually

[half walrus]

cant get sued for profits if paypal takes em all

pro tips

[lime pivot]

😬

fuck paypal

just saying

[tardy narwhal]

i’ll text him and report back to you

[lime pivot]

my employer had to do this to enter the UK with our IoT product

which, of course

is now a waste because the UK has left the EU and I'm not sure that they have a similar framework

if they do, unless the entire law basically "refer to EU GDPR" it'll need to go through another audit

none of this is revenue the UK gets of course… it's rather revenue they lose if we have to take the product off the market because we aren't yet in compliance

auditor would be in Australia, probably an American megacorp

[tardy narwhal]

uk’s old laws should revive since gdpr is an EU-club exclusive

[lime pivot]

also saw a tweet from someone who's in a bad situation because the product they design in the UK, bringing revenue to the UK economy, can no longer be sold in the UK because CE no longer applies

but they can export to most of Europe and the US (FCC)

like, why man

if CE was ok before why is there a whole new process that'll cost tens of thousands to certify, probably more in lost sales

just realised I can use this as an iPod pocket

man I look terrible

[granite frigate]

false

[tardy narwhal]

The beard needs slight maintenance, but man I have a serious question kirb

I have never seen that style of headphone “tightening” before, please explain lmao

[tardy narwhal]

it looks comfortable but confusing

[half walrus]

hoodie has a phone pocket

[lime pivot]

LTTStore.com

[lime pivot]

um lol

[half walrus]

if ur wondering how my first iP X got a crack on the corner of it's screen

[lime pivot]

when I go for a jog it’s the least annoying solution by far

[half walrus]

hoodie phone pocket should not be trusted to keep phone in pocket

[lime pivot]

along with fishing the cable down my shirt

[tepid olive]

do you not use a case?

[half walrus]

nope

[tepid olive]

lol

[half walrus]

i've had my current X since

march?

[lime pivot]

ugh the shit I do to use an obsolete portable music computer from 2007 instead of my internet connected brain destroying rectangle from 2018

[half walrus]

without so much as a scratch

cant stand cases

[tardy narwhal]

ah that makes sense, but in this scenario you’re sitting which had me scratching my head lol. If it’s comfortable for teams/ conferences I’ll try that out next time

[lime pivot]

oh I use AirPods Pro for that

[tardy narwhal]

because fuck me my headphones go everywhere

[lime pivot]

when I remember to charge them

[tardy narwhal]

exactly!😂

[lime pivot]

I also bought the previous “best wireless headphones you can buy” a year before AirPods Pro

didn’t end up liking the sound (it’s very bass heavy, feels wrong) but kept them anyway because they’re hella convenient

so given I cbf to sell them, they’re now my backup plan when the AirPods die on a call

it’s crazy how good these earbuds are (Sennheiser)

I don’t need to fuck with the iPod’s EQ to try and kinda sorta badly undo the crappy frequency response

[lime pivot]

swore by never using a case until start of this year New York glass cube Apple store randomly decided I need to have a battery case

those are available in 3 colors

white, black, and pink

white and black are too bland

so I guess my phone has been pink for the past year

it’s also a fucking brick and I don’t know why I still use it given covid and laziness means I barely go anywhere

[tardy narwhal]

actually kirb which gen iPod did you use for your transformation

[lime pivot]

started taking it off for jogs and my life has been significantly improved by not having a literal brick glued to one side of my leg

7th gen 120 GB

I think that’s the very very last iPod gen

“7th” but actually 6th gen 3rd revision

[tardy narwhal]

I was think of purchasing and doing a mod as well, did a 6S before. Was it difficult or plausible?

[lime pivot]

you will destroy the original case, let me put it that way

if you want to keep it mostly intact, go for 6th gen (tolerances are way more lenient) or 5th gen (plastic front face which is way easier to pry out)

if you just want to replace the case anyway, go 7th gen (aka 6th gen 2nd or 3rd revision) and buy a front, back, clickwheel, battery, and possibly a replacement internal frame (just in case) from Elite Obsolete

buy a lot of Sesamos, I really do mean a lot

clone ones are like $7 AUD on eBay so I bought 8

mangled all of them

[tardy narwhal]

I see, dang thanks for the insight! I was hoping it would be similar to the 6S where you’d save the back but I guess it’s yeet and rebuild lmao

[lime pivot]

I was also probably doing it wrong though

yeah iPhones are wayyyyyy more repairable than iPods

most other iPod models, forget it. just not designed to be repaired, full stop

not like Louis Rossmann oh I don’t have the part to fix this common fault, no, like literally you will not be getting the guts outside of this thing without a lot of pain, and if the battery has expanded (common nowadays) good luck

this iPod nano I tried to get inside because I thought it was bricked, actually the battery is just dead and it only runs on iPad power brick

[tardy narwhal]

yeah rip rights to repair lmao, with apple i feel like it’ll remain a distant dream since most don’t tinker enough i’d presume

[lime pivot]

it’s a long tube design because it was dirt cheap for Apple to make a super long aluminium tube and cut it into individual iPods

iPod classic is about the only one you can do much of anything in, and now that the iPod era is behind us, only because replacement parts are still in good supply with even new stuff coming out (I think Elite Obsolete is only like a year old)

given that iPod nano’s last timestamp was in mid 2012 and wasn’t wiped, I can only assume that person tried to plug it into a standard 1A brick, nothing happened, so they sold it as not working

maybe if it worked they would have sold it as working for more $, but there’s that possibility they go huh yeah my old iPod wow that’s cool, I can play around with it again

[tardy narwhal]

BRUH

[lime pivot]

hahah

[tardy narwhal]

just shy of 200 quids for a prebuild?

damn

[lime pivot]

it's so cool right

[tardy narwhal]

Bless you for telling me about this website

this is awsome

[lime pivot]

this niche thing exists and isn't even that expensive

unlike, say, XT-IDE or clone sound cards for old PCs

despite them usually just being a PCB manufactured for next to nothing plus a few modern chips and resistors and all that

[tardy narwhal]

dang, how’s the battery life on these things?

I never truly owned one of the fat old ipods

[lime pivot]

so I put in the 450 mAh battery, I think that's 100 more than the stock battery life

the ginormous batteries aren't designed to fit in the slim 7th gen, so I didn't bother trying my luck

even though I switched the HDD for an iFlash so a ton of internal space has been freed up

[tardy narwhal]

I’d probably get a fat one from them because they’re that cheap

[lime pivot]

I'm still on my first charge about 3 weeks later

iPods just draw like literally no battery

turns out decoding mp3s isn't very computationally expensive

the thing not having to power a full blown hard drive mechanism also helps tons

[tardy narwhal]

wtf are you fr

[lime pivot]

I'm very

[tardy narwhal]

holy moly

yeah I’m definitely buying one

[lime pivot]

iPods just last forever

fresh battery helps, obvs

upgrading to flash also absolutely extends battery life

the only thing I don't like is that the clickwheel is just not as good an input device as I was led to believe

it's like, fine

and it was super smart for its time

[tardy narwhal]

tbf nothing beats touching where your thumb would go, it’s too intuitive to believe something else would be better

[lime pivot]

but being so used to touch UIs that are so easy to surface tons of features on, scrolling down a page by rotating my finger on a circle feels… wrong

[tardy narwhal]

unless it’s new heads-up display tech, would be too futuristic

[lime pivot]

I particularly dislike that the now playing screen hides so many features behind a center button click, but you get used to it

or long click

[grim sparrow]

[lime pivot]

sup @grim sparrow

[grim sparrow]

Hi

[lime pivot]

hi

[grim sparrow]

Not much

What about you

[lime pivot]

pondering why I've been chatting for hours on this app

[grim sparrow]

Understandable

[lime pivot]

oh well

[half walrus]

mood

man where's all the hate im supposed to get

i expected to cry but not like this ppl need to stop being lovely goddamnit

[tepid olive]

Good morning developers

Lookin good @half walrus

[half walrus]

within 10 seconds damn

ty ty

none of the pictures i took translate well to the tiny ass discord pfp so i'm just rollin with it

rip dragon pfp

was time

[tepid olive]

Lol i just saw the instagram pic

Coincidence

[half walrus]

.

now for the fun part where i try and fix the black/white point

went through like 12 different versions of the dragon one just w/ different black points lol

[grim sparrow]

lol

discord moment

[half walrus]

too powerful

[grim sparrow]

it works now

[marble tiger]

@glacial matrix https://github.com/evilsocket/uroboros 🤔

[glacial matrix]

It ain’t me

[marble tiger]

Didn’t think it was- found it amusing

[glacial matrix]

o?u?roboros? is a noun already so it’s very easy to find it used as a name for stuff

[marble tiger]

Ah, didn’t know that

Mmm. All three of my dictionaries disagree

[glacial matrix]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros

[marble tiger]

“oroboro” failed
“uroboro” failed
“oroboros” failed
“uroboros” failed
“ouroboro” failed
“ouroboros” passes

Rip, my enumeration was too slow

[glacial matrix]

I guess it’s not “o?u?” But “o?u”

[marble tiger]

Oh, I think we talked about that one time 🤔 vaguely remember now

[glacial matrix]

And the s is also required

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Wait, in Spanish it is valid to not have s

Oh god, the variants according to the Wikipedia language list is too many

[tepid olive]

the edits make it literally perfect for a pfp

looks great

[grim sparrow]

[rain falcon]

@lethal ice METH

[lethal ice]

@rain falcon

[rain falcon]

@lethal ice WTF

[tepid olive]

more like march 307 or smthin

thats accurate

the last month that felt real was april

true

march 13: so we got 10 cases, closing everything now!

nowadays: 3k cases per day, fuck it schools open

yes

i mean

keeps the population down

i remember some guy made a meme saying 32000 dead people gives the same impact as 10 million trees planted

that was in early march

of 2020

he does have a point

yea

just ironic

think of the turtles

less people means less pollution

and that is statistically a fact

doesn’t mean it’s a good thing

depends

think of the turtles

death not good

but turtles are

like

covid not good because it kills people

very few

but still

did you have a stroke writing that

yes

and/or have you slept recently

no

understandable

what i mean to say is

covid kills

but also pollution does

killing is not good

if you genuinely wish death on someone you are a horrible human being

agreed

[grim sparrow]

true

[tepid olive]

the "i dont agree with you so you should die" "people"

[grim sparrow]

true

[restive ether]

sorry, mitch gets exemption

[tepid olive]

who

[late ridge]

...

that just sounds like they don't have the mental capacity to argue so they cop out

[restive ether]

moscow mitch, the single reason millions aren’t getting the money they need

[tepid olive]

oh isnt he like the government dude

probably

[grim sparrow]

[late ridge]

government dude

[restive ether]

senate majority leader

[grim sparrow]

the one that looks like a frog

[tepid olive]

yeah wishing death still not ok no matter how much you hate them

[restive ether]

the human embodiment of a turtle

[grim sparrow]

[restive ether]

nah it’s ok

he’s ruined millions of lives

i think that’s justifiable

[lethal kayak]

I wouldn’t wish death on him but I wouldn’t be sad if he died

[grim sparrow]

lol

I think many would rejoice if he died

[restive ether]

he’s america’s maggie thatcher

[tepid olive]

meh

i cant comment on this bc i have no information

[grim sparrow]

DIng dong the witch is dead

[lethal kayak]

Also he looks like a hollow from dark souls

[restive ether]

the wicked bitch is dead

[grim sparrow]

the problem with pissing on maggies grave is that eventually you'll run out of piss

[restive ether]

bottle it

once a year

[late ridge]

[tepid olive]

ah hes republican

makes sense now

[grim sparrow]

lol

[half walrus]

can we blame him for mf doom

2020 just couldn’t end quietly could it

[steady nest]

#development is the new general

[half walrus]

i mean what do u expect nobody likes talking about code for >5 minutes

[grim sparrow]

lol

[restive ether]

@half walrus in da pfp

nice

[half walrus]

dragon pfp is ded

[grim sparrow]

shame

[half walrus]

except on GH bc i’m too tired to get up and change it rn

[grim sparrow]

[half walrus]

new year new me

took it to the extreme this year lol

[grim sparrow]

I haven't even had the effort to change my name on socials yet

[half walrus]

@flat wyvern checkra.in design on mobile is probably one of, if not the best mobile site i’ve seen

[tepid olive]

#jailbreak and #development replaced general long ago

general sucks

[grim sparrow]

true

[steady nest]

just silenced general too, themes is no longer alone

[half walrus]

great example of how it’s possible to make a hot website without 20MB of js frameworks and bootstrap crap

dev is the only channel here i don’t have muted lol

[grim sparrow]

lol

[half walrus]

def testingsomeshit():
    pass

why does mobile not have highlight.js wyd discord

[grim sparrow]

because mobile has been neglected

[half walrus]

eh

i mean it’s a very clean app just missing that one thing

compared to say, slack lol

[grim sparrow]

I'm fortunate to hardly have to use slack

only have it for one team I half left a few months ago

[half walrus]

it’s not bad, just outshone by discord

still better than skype + teamspeak

those were the days

[robust radish]

i open sourced a carplay tweak ive been working on. its also on repo.ghostbin.co if anyone has a carplay radio and wants to play with it https://github.com/EthanArbuckle/carplay-cast

[grim sparrow]

what is it

oh right

it's in the description

[half walrus]

https://twitter.com/jiffa010/status/1338090671245291522?s=21

Jeff (@JiFFa010)

@arm64e Why doesn’t pivot work on iPhone 11 Pro Max it doesn’t show in settings.
And the cracked version does.

And Gravitation has a error loading preference bundle.

Twitter · Dec 13, 2020, 11:57 AM

what

the cracked version of...

[tepid olive]

[half walrus]

https://github.com/kritantadev/pivot ????

[tepid olive]

the cracked version does!!!

[half walrus]

i mean yeah that checks out actually

cuz it’s probably old as shit

and the new one has the toolchain bug

[tepid olive]

[half walrus]

https://twitter.com/jiffa010/status/1330563234592649220?s=21 oh it’s one of these fucktards

Jeff (@JiFFa010)

@CStar_OW I identify as a apache attack helicopter

Twitter · Nov 22, 2020, 5:26 PM

out of my replies goooodbye

[tepid olive]

lmao

cool star threads

https://twitter.com/jiffa010/status/1337624123372138496?s=21

Jeff (@JiFFa010)

@arm64e @eduardoechandia Fixing this when? Worked fine till the last update and can’t downgrade

Twitter · Dec 12, 2020, 5:03 AM

[grim sparrow]

[tepid olive]

https://twitter.com/jiffa010/status/1233762866962075650?s=21
"clean"

Jeff (@JiFFa010)

@JunesIphone I’d like to buy one tweak of you I really like. But €10 for a login and I only want switcherstyle is a bit to much.

Can we arrange something? Can I pay you for just one tweak? I rather don’t have the pirated version. I’d like to keep my phone fair and clean

Twitter · Feb 29, 2020, 2:36 PM

[half walrus]

lol i avoid cs threads for this reason

[grim sparrow]

Plex and I have a lot in common, both transcoders

[tepid olive]

oh that's like the guy saying they as a pronoun is a grammar error

[half walrus]

awful hateful people

[tepid olive]

he said he had an english phd lol

well “they is” isn’t correct grammar

[grim sparrow]

bs

[tepid olive]

they is plural

[tardy narwhal]

English phd in being a dumbass

the phd’s differ per language

[tepid olive]

true

[grim sparrow]

[tardy narwhal]

The german phd in being a certified Arschloch is a bit easier to get by

[tepid olive]

lmao

i'm kinda confused: singular = they but we use are
am i missing smthin or is it just like that

elon musk is

interesting

[grim sparrow]

He's just challenged

[tepid olive]

true

i don’t particularly agree with his stance on things

[grim sparrow]

Some of his opinions are certainly questionable

[tepid olive]

why did he think it was a good idea to name his child that? probably with the intention for him to get bullied

[tardy narwhal]

Lmao it’s a touchy subject and people will be offended, what’s the point in discussing different people’s view on pronouns though

[tepid olive]

[tardy narwhal]

jailbreaking now makes sense

[grim sparrow]

Because people were brought up only knowing he/him she/her, don't like change

[tepid olive]

downloading iOS 5 is really fun

holyfuck

it's like 500kbps

ofc last try it got corrupted

trollfetch

neofetch --neko and neofetch --troll would be cool

[grim sparrow]

true

[tepid olive]

instead of a shit ton of extra stuff

or smthin like neofetch --default-ascii "troll"

or just do neofetch --jp2a image.png like i do

lol

[grim sparrow]

lol

[tardy narwhal]

but what’s wrong with the first bit though or the second for that matter? Like bottom line for most is that no one gives a fuck as what you identify as, for all I (personally at least) know you can be whatever you want whether it’s a he she they or unicorn, it doesn’t change your personality

[tepid olive]

or if u like color, neofetch --caca

[grim sparrow]

That's how it should be. Some people just get really touchy over it and i don't know why

[tepid olive]

gosh my science teacher is gonna have a hard time teaching online now that flash is dead

this is gonna be hilarious

[tardy narwhal]

Well me neither and god bless that idiots gets excluded from society stronger nowadays

[tepid olive]

bruh people make it their whole personality

[grim sparrow]

lol

[tepid olive]

and then they wonder

why people don’t like to be around them

well thats the same with anyone who makes something arbitrary their whole personality

[tardy narwhal]

Well the thing is that a minimal amount of radicals in any group are enough to give the general impression about the group

[tepid olive]

i dont like hanging out with people who only talk about drinking or smoking

true

[grim sparrow]

why would you

that's just a dumb thing to always go on about

[tepid olive]

this is now #general but for people with dev role

[grim sparrow]

always has been

[restive ether]

always has been

god dammit

[grim sparrow]

[tepid olive]

fr

fr

damn i really hope my 4s is pre-september 2012 cuz else i'm fucked

[grim sparrow]

I'm actually developing so I am valid to be here

[tepid olive]

ok

sure

[tepid olive]

why do you need @.objc there?

for async?

[grim sparrow]

call it from a selector

[tepid olive]

ok

[half walrus]

lol yeah i’ve never in my life actually seen even a twitter profile with a “neo-pronoun” in it

[grim sparrow]

I've seen one

[primal perch]

[tepid olive]

oh lord

[half walrus]

i see people like incessantly bitch about how all lgbt people are like that like

[grim sparrow]

I've been trying to find this one tweet for like 10 minutes now

[half walrus]

where? who?

[tepid olive]

it's hard to get when people using emojipronouns are serious or not

[primal perch]

[tepid olive]

some person was going on and on about emoji pronouns

[half walrus]

if we’re going to represent a group by the sum of its cringiest parts we’re all fucked

[tepid olive]

and the really weird xenogenders like dreamgender

[grim sparrow]

wtf is that

[late ridge]

LOL

i am :laugh_cry:/:laughing_crying:

[tepid olive]

when you identify as a emoji

apparently people use emojis instead of pronounsin online conversation now

[grim sparrow]

tf

[tepid olive]

🏴‍☠️self for example

[primal perch]

is an idiot

[tepid olive]

tRaNsPhObE

[late ridge]

[half walrus]

lol yall took bait

[tepid olive]

true

[primal perch]

[grim sparrow]

ok my pronouns are / ty

[tepid olive]

no

[grim sparrow]

[primal perch]

02kek is the worst emoji

[tepid olive]

facts

[late ridge]

[primal perch]

[tepid olive]

holy shit this is amazing

how have i had the new peloton bike for so long and not known this

[grim sparrow]

lol

hasn't that existed since like watchos 2

[late ridge]

weirdflex

[primal perch]

[lime pivot]

no

[tepid olive]

peloton apparently didn’t have it until the new bike

[primal perch]

Wtf

[tepid olive]

treadmill still doesn’t have it sadly

[late ridge]

how stop apple

[tepid olive]

[primal perch]

[lime pivot]

I would love to stop apple sometimes tbh

[late ridge]

[tepid olive]

start and stop apple on command

anyways must go now

true

[late ridge]

[west grove]

how stop apple
@late ridge

[late ridge]

@tepid olive how's vacation

same

[tepid olive]

Happy new year to everyone here!

I have to set sum resolutions

[west grove]

:ASthink:
@late ridge