and 12
#development
restive ether
pearl sail
Most of the people are who have iPhone X are still on ios 13 and Odyssey supports all version of ios 13 as well so there is that
tepid olive
Hello hello
lime pivot
I totally agree on a bootstrap option on principle though
gaunt mesa
hi adam
restive ether
the only issue i can see is if you’re using pro how do you go about tweak injection, do you go straight to libhooker or the soon to be substitute 2.0
twilit jungle
I say randomly assign color to each package manager and then have user select color and go with that
tepid olive
Im absolutely getting huge how are yall doing
lime pivot
if there’s going to be Zebra or anything else added, there should be bootstrap options added
tepid olive
Green means go
lime pivot
that’s true, it’s segmented in yet another way 😕
tepid olive
Whats todays discussion
restive ether
Whats todays discussion
da loader
gaunt mesa
bruh
twilit jungle
We talking about colors today
misty cradle
the only issue i can see is if you’re using pro how do you go about tweak inject...
let them choose 
pearl sail
It went from my status to the loader
tepid olive
Ah your status is lit. Love controversy its always funny
gaunt mesa
ofc
lime pivot
I think this discussion has been productive
gaunt mesa
wtf
lime pivot
hi christmas renai
restive ether
@lime pivot i mean if sam or pwn or whatever are fine with letting substitute 2.0 then that’s what i think is fine for use with check pro firstly
gaunt mesa
in the end tho i do have to point out that a new user will not care and just choose random things
restive ether
if they aren’t cool with it i don’t think coolstar would have an issue providing libhooker for that
gaunt mesa
hi christmas renai
hello kirb sir!
pearl sail
Ah your status is lit. Love controversy its always funny
Krit don't agree with my thinking and disagrees with me, but I am not gonna hate on him for it
restive ether
or you could just back to hosting the injection lib on a separate repo like how it was at the start
lime pivot
I have no problem trusting that Pro and libhooker are good software though
tepid olive
I just like controversy
restive ether
as long as substitute 2.0 isn’t restricted to elu?
tepid olive
When its not manufactured by me**
restive ether
i don’t think it’s allowed to be but i may be wrong
gaunt mesa
what's substitute 2.0
restive ether
substitute 2.0 sir
gaunt mesa
the pwn thing that he tweeted about?
restive ether
yeah
pearl sail
yeah
gaunt mesa
so it's open source then?
pearl sail
don't know
restive ether
i don’t think it will be
gaunt mesa
since it's based off of substitute it has to comply with the license
restive ether
considering u0’s current is not
gaunt mesa
unless it's a rewrite that's just dubbed substitute 2.0 cuz no one knows the name
gaunt mesa
considering u0’s current is not
false
restive ether
it is?
gaunt mesa
that's a violation of license
tepid olive
No
restive ether
i have not seen this source code
tepid olive
They use substitute’s name willy nilly
gaunt mesa
bingners substitute is the u0 one is it not?
restive ether
so it’s not even comex’s substitute?
tepid olive
The original substitute is still open source, substituted isnt
lime pivot
IMO you can’t totally rebuild substitute and keep calling it substitute, it wasn’t your project to begin with
pearl sail
technically it is not comex's anymore
gaunt mesa
ah yeah well that's something different
tepid olive
And knowing their aptitude for reusing names they’ve rewritten the og substitute and will now close source it
restive ether
IMO you can’t totally rebuild substitute and keep calling it substitute, it wasn...
a rename is in order 😳
lime pivot
close sourcing “substitute 2” would definitely be offensive to comex
misty cradle
it'll be substithree
pearl sail
I don't think he is gonna interfere tho
gaunt mesa
stitute sub
restive ether
bring back u0 dark
pearl sail
Comex has stayed out of jailbreak affair for so long
gaunt mesa
electra 
restive ether
electra be like
gaunt mesa
yooo
restive ether
no i will not work
gaunt mesa
lime pivot
I miss that fun day in this channel (a few deletions and servers ago at least) came together and got Electra shipped
tepid olive
@gaunt mesa weeb pfp
restive ether
i wish coolstar hadn’t left electra in a bad spot
with the broken upgrade path
bad sad
pearl sail
I wish we got OSS chimera
gaunt mesa
i wish jbd was open source
restive ether
i wish jbd was open source
this was big sad tbh
pearl sail
jbd2 is straight 
misty cradle
i used to watch this shit to impress those girls
restive ether
i want jbd3 source
lime pivot
with the broken upgrade path
I tried to convince them to release a “fix” package for ages and I think it only happened very recently?
restive ether
the electra packages? nah they’re still broken
pearl sail
i want jbd3 source
basically you want libhooker
restive ether
you have to do some apt stuff to fix
lime pivot
🤷♀️
misty cradle
didnt cs release an update after i went rage mode on them
lime pivot
oh well
gaunt mesa
basically you want libhooker
bruh
lime pivot
their mindset is “well I don’t have an iOS 11 device and iOS 11 is irrelevant now anyway because all of those can update to 12”
restive ether
yeah more or less
gaunt mesa
coolstar™️
nocturne yacht
ios 11 unthetered 
lime pivot
idk I feel like just showing a bit of pride in your earlier work by having a working upgrade path is still pretty valuable
lime pivot
I have an iOS 11 iPhone 6s I was willing to volunteer
pearl sail
coolstar™️
Well I am sure substitute 2.0 is going down the same path unfortunately
lime pivot
saurik set the precedent 😕
pearl sail
Hopefully 2021 we get opened source libhooker
nocturne yacht
f
misty cradle
fr i just wanna scroll through some C code which i dont understand
restive ether
did he set the precedent for hard to contribute to software also? lol
lime pivot
I think his concerns were valid but also that close sourcing forever wasn’t exactly the best way forward
misty cradle
Hopefully 2021 we get opened source libhooker
after the hypervisor, it should be open sourced
restive ether
I think his concerns were valid but also that close sourcing forever wasn’t exac...
i do find his attitude ironic when he was considered the forefront of the freedom argument
pearl sail
after the hypervisor, it should be open sourced <:fr:712506651520925698>
CS said hypervisor part will be closed I think
misty cradle
i meant like after its released
pearl sail
yeah
restive ether
i would be really happy if LH became an open source project
gaunt mesa
can we just have one injection platform that everyone uses that's open source and doesn't suck?
restive ether
can we just have one injection platform that everyone uses that's open source an...
no.
misty cradle
@gaunt mesa ok can u make it pls
gaunt mesa
because it's obvious it's never happening with LH or substrate
gaunt mesa
<@!700707501493977198> ok can u make it pls
just inject hand sanitizer into arm and profit
misty cradle
substrate i doubt
lime pivot
I think he’s still convinced to this day that GitHub is bad because it enables a culture of forking for the hell of it, and forking is the wrong word because it has negative meaning (breaking off from the original devs because you don’t like them for some reason)
gaunt mesa
lol
restive ether
is this why he got so mad at limitless? lol
limitless was cool, i wish that took off
pearl sail
I think he’s still convinced to this day that GitHub is bad because it enables a...
That is a dumb way of thinking imo if that was true Linux kernel would not be maintain by Linus anymore
lime pivot
I was certain it was going to fail due to lack of vision and it did
restive ether
i just think they wanted to make cydia not cydia
i’m glad zebra has taken off
just to show open source does work
pearl sail
reed had the right idea just not the right approach
lime pivot
That is a dumb way of thinking imo if that was true Linux kernel would not be ma...
I’d say it’s frustrating kernel development is so fragmented
restive ether
zebra’s depends resolution pisses me off
gaunt mesa
bro
misty cradle
after nep simped it too much, i got tired of it
restive ether
linux would’ve taken off if it wasn’t for fragmentation
gaunt mesa
i use it just cuz its no bullshit
restive ether
but that’s kinda the point
lime pivot
patching things to work on very specific hardware is one thing, but usually there are whole drivers lurking in a complete separate fork of the kernel that doesn’t get updated at as fast a pace as the official project if even at all
nocturne yacht
F
misty cradle
@lavish sequoia player fix
restive ether
L
gaunt mesa
and i test on stock checkra1n cuz that's what most people use
restive ether
i don’t see why that’s relevant
gaunt mesa
i know it probably doesn't make a difference but still want to be sure
restive ether
so wouldn’t you wanna make sure things work on libhooker too? lol
gaunt mesa
i have one phone on odyssey but its dead
misty cradle
make it alive
gaunt mesa
so wouldn’t you wanna make sure things work on libhooker too? lol
yeah ofc, but that's after i know everything works on my main device
lime pivot
the number of devices you definitely have in your house that run Linux 2.3 or 3.6 or 4.4…
gaunt mesa
then ill test on odyssey real quick for like 10 minutes
pearl sail
patching things to work on very specific hardware is one thing, but usually ther...
Yeah there are problems with but less than with our community imo
gaunt mesa
and then call it done
restive ether
the number of devices you definitely have in your house that run Linux 2.3 or 3....
all those smart devices 😳
lime pivot
that never ever will receive a new kernel build, and probably the company is illegally flouting GPL anyway by not releasing kernel source
misty cradle
ok but when is null gonna make that UI for checkra1n windows
restive ether
my smart toaster running on linux kernel super slim
lime pivot
so you can’t even try to give it the latest 5.x kernel
gaunt mesa
ok but when is null gonna make that UI for checkra1n windows
this is null we are talking about...
restive ether
corporate greed’s fault
misty cradle
true
restive ether
i think it would’ve done them a favor
gaunt mesa
=== RAGE OVER ===
pearl sail
Null probably hates it when people brought it up in that twitter post
gaunt mesa
LOL
lime pivot
also any IoT device that claims to be secure either is running an outdated Linux out of the box, or very soon will be, lmao
grim sparrow
True
gaunt mesa
and pepper grinder
it's got variable range as well based on my eyesight
it'll automatically notify me if i see the container is almost empty
restive ether
=== RAGE OVER ===
this is still the funniest jb dev thing ever
lime pivot
companies really don’t care about anything but convincing you it’s probably secure and by that they mean you probably won’t be a specific target so you won’t get into trouble because of it
gaunt mesa
this is still the funniest jb dev thing ever
cuz unlike or we barely use it
lime pivot
but everything you put on your wifi that’s out of date… just increases the chances if someone really does hate you… ugh
restive ether
===RAGE OVER===
gaunt mesa
someone gonna react with now
restive ether
i laugh every time
gaunt mesa
but everything you put on your wifi that’s out of date… just increases the chanc...
imagine not making ur own devices
misty cradle
ok but we are wasting time rn, its productive time
restive ether
me when my 2020 google nest thermostat runs linux kernel 2.0
gaunt mesa
do u not have a meth computer lab in ur basement?
misty cradle
@gaunt mesa yes
restive ether
someone hacks my heating unit and blows up my house
gaunt mesa
i manually make my transistors br0
misty cradle
@restive ether
pearl sail
do u not have a ~~meth~~ computer lab in ur basement?
There are no basements in California
gaunt mesa
heater is running renai certified transistors
restive ether
There are no basements in California
is this true
gaunt mesa
attic then
restive ether
i can’t tell if you’re joking lol
gaunt mesa
gaunt mesa
misty cradle
misty cradle
but i suck becausse anti bot systems
figure out akamai bro
its like magic shit
pearl sail
I would say only 5% or even less have a basement in California @restive ether
misty cradle
all obfuscated javascript
restive ether
is there a reason for that?
misty cradle
my brain hurts when i look at it
pearl sail
is there a reason for that?
earthquakes
restive ether
i’ve honestly never been to a house in NY without a basement
oh
that’s a good point
i hadn’t considered
misty cradle
where is jules
gaunt mesa
why
restive ether
so in the midwest they just have basements? no houses
misty cradle
@gaunt mesa yes literally obfuscated
restive ether
gaunt mesa
just start giving names to methods
restive ether
!stats
faint lion
gaunt mesa
based on what they do
lime pivot
heater is running renai certified transistors
are those transistors executing code from Linux®️ Kernel 2.3
pearl sail
I live 5 miles from the SA faultline so I am fucked if there is a huge earthquake any time soon
restive ether
I live 5 miles from the SA faultline so I am fucked if there is a huge earthquak...
you’re overdue btw
by a lot
gaunt mesa
are those transistors executing code from Linux®️ Kernel 2.3
no they are using xnu upstream of 2020
misty cradle
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u[_[153]][_[29]](t),
t[_[294]](_[144], _[265]),
t[_[235]](_[104]),
t[_[355]](_[144]),
t[_[336]](_[104]),
n = _[265] === t[_[208]](_[144])
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t && u[_[153]][_[173]](t)
} catch (e) {}
i(e, n)
}
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var a = d[_[290]][_[376]];
if (a)
if (null === e)
t = !0;
else {
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pearl sail
yessir
restive ether
rip you
misty cradle
@gaunt mesa pls decode this
restive ether
you gotta move up north
i think it’s so fucking weird cali is like
the whole fucking coastline
i still have troubles comprehending that
lime pivot
ah yeah, the XNU open source project where “open source” is “whenever the guy who has the login for the opensource.apple.com ftp has time”
pearl sail
you gotta move up north
I am too Brown to live that far north
gaunt mesa
ah yeah, the XNU open source project where “open source” is “whenever the guy wh...
TRUE
gaunt mesa
```js
function R(e) {
var t, n = !1;
try {
...
yikes
gaunt mesa
does apple just not know what source control is
misty cradle
but then i saw nike have it too a few days ago
gaunt mesa
i mean webkit still uses subversion
restive ether
no
restive ether
pearl sail
learn to ski
I know how to ski, snowboard, surf. They are just some racist ass people that far North in California
restive ether
I know how to ski, snowboard, surf. They are just some racist ass people that fa...
some [redacted] lovers up north
pearl sail
gaunt mesa
most big git sites don't care about how they look
restive ether
you’re telling me you and a ton of people can maintain something for two decades but can’t make the website better
like i don’t get it lol
gaunt mesa
it's not a priority
pearl sail
you’re telling me you and a ton of people can maintain something for two decades...
elu git site is a mess bruh
gaunt mesa
elu git site is a mess bruh
bruh cmon its using cgit which is what kernel uses and apple webkit git
gaunt mesa
u can't be shitting on elu and then not shitting on kernel
tepid olive
how is it that now all the old tarballs are magically back
restive ether
nah that website is gross too lol
gaunt mesa
they both use the same thing for their git forntend
tepid olive
but still no darwin 20 tarball
pearl sail
I cannot navigate that site without being loss Ren
gaunt mesa
br0 darwin tarball eta 2021
gaunt mesa
I cannot navigate that site without being loss Ren
try nagivating kernel git and then see
pearl sail
All git sites are bad then
tepid olive
dude, literally all I want is to see how ktrr changed on ios 14
pearl sail
no I trust you
pearl sail
I TRUST YOU
gaunt mesa
@tepid olive send santa a letter this year asking
pearl sail
I DO
gaunt mesa
dear santa, please give us darwin 20 tarball for christmas
pearl sail
gaunt mesa
true
pearl sail
please stop banging my mom
But she gives cookies and milk afterwards
restive ether
misty cradle
@restive ether ok ill stop
gaunt mesa
restive ether
brown santa? wtf
misty cradle
@pearl sail damn you a santa too??
restive ether
i thought he was white
no
pearl sail
Jesus was brown too man you guys got lied to a lot
misty cradle
true
gaunt mesa
pearl sail
DGh0st is santa?
gaunt mesa
eta?
misty cradle
he gonna bless us with nitro codes this christmas
and the longawaited release of SurCenter
restive ether
Jesus was brown too man you guys got lied to a lot
this is true
gaunt mesa
sur center wen
pearl sail
gaunt mesa
did u buy game
misty cradle
nah it got put on hold
pearl sail
I hear it will kill the new consoles graphically
gaunt mesa
i got my xbsx
misty cradle
because payment declined
restive ether
slow shipping
europe moment
gaunt mesa
im just happy i have rich mans xbox
misty cradle
i wouldve had it like monday
gaunt mesa
smh
misty cradle
@gaunt mesa i ordered xbox series x on amazon.nl and they locked my acc bc first order
and they thik its suspiscious
restive ether
honestly the worst looking backport i’ve ever seen was black ops 3 on the PS3
it was disgusting
gaunt mesa
bo3 on ps3?
restive ether
have you seen it?
gaunt mesa
what in god's name
misty cradle
@restive ether i played that shit on my cousins ps3
pearl sail
<@!303547048953774090> have your seen cyberpunk on the PS4
If it is making the 3090 sweat a little then I can only imagine how the ps4 be doing
gaunt mesa
modern warfare still best cod game
misty cradle
i love how the ps5 lets u claim like 40 good games free
including bo3 + ZC DLC
uncharted
and many others
god of war
restive ether
misty cradle
all free
gaunt mesa
EW
restive ether
easily the worst backport i’ve ever seen
pearl sail
https://youtu.be/XgAAl5gLouo
from that pic I can see the pastiness
misty cradle
the zombies especially
i have geography eam in like 12 hours
exam
and i have to study like 6 pages still
fr2
gaunt mesa
have u seen zombies on bo4 tho
misty cradle
or 12
restive ether
it’s horrible
gaunt mesa
die maschine is great tho
restive ether
it’s almost as bad as WW2
gaunt mesa
and campaign is ok
gaunt mesa
i like CW's a lot more
misty cradle
arguably bo3 + bo2 @restive ether
gaunt mesa
but there is only one map rn
restive ether
BO3 is just a bad game
misty cradle
der eisendrache from bo3
misty cradle
bro you never played the dlcs?
restive ether
isn’t CW bringing back transit? lol
misty cradle
the zombies chronicles shit was good af
and the dlcs
@restive ether bo3 was supposed to
but then they kicked jason blundell
off the team
restive ether
misty cradle
🤡
gaunt mesa
the nuk3town zombies mannequin easter egg was cool
restive ether
transit was good
gaunt mesa
redwood was epic
restive ether
idc what anyone says
gaunt mesa
still one of my favorite maps
misty cradle
@restive ether have u ever played any other bo3 zombies map other than shadows of evil
and the giant
restive ether
@gaunt mesa i kinda likes the BO2 version more
it was scarier
imo
you just turn around
and the mfer is right there
gaunt mesa
th ebo3 version was built for bo3 movement ¯_(ツ)_/¯
ie the whole wall running section
misty cradle
<@!272812398308622336> have u ever played any other bo3 zombies map other than s...
.
restive ether
redwood being the best map in the game just means the maps were bad
pearl sail
bo4 zombies tho
restive ether
they haven’t made good MP maps in like 5 years
misty cradle
@pearl sail 
pearl sail
lmao
gaunt mesa
treyarch really has fallen
gaunt mesa
IW games are much better now
restive ether
they should’ve never done 2 year release cycles
3 years would’ve worked better
but they murdered sledgehammer lol
misty cradle
worst thing is, sledgehammer wouldve released this year but they stepped out
restive ether
AW wasn’t even that bad
gaunt mesa
rip
misty cradle
so nwo even less time
gaunt mesa
AW was good imo
misty cradle
misty cradle
i loved AW
gaunt mesa
aw was epic
misty cradle
got so good with that sniper
gaunt mesa
why did sledgehammer step out?
restive ether
it just got micro transactioned hard by activision
pearl sail
AW was pretty cool concept
restive ether
@gaunt mesa knowing what’s we know now AW and Ghost are like the best games ever in comparison
misty cradle
@gaunt mesa they just didnt wanna work together or something
restive ether
i still liked ghost a lot back then
restive ether
raven brought us MWR though
gaunt mesa
i will continue with modern warfare until the next IW8 game comes out
misty cradle
activision ruins all
misty cradle
they only care about tha money not the game
gaunt mesa
no
restive ether
they wanted micro transaction money too much
misty cradle
@restive ether ok but u havent answered, have u played any other bo3 zombies map other than shadows and the giant
restive ether
i’m glad the EU fucking demolished loot boxes
misty cradle
wtf still no answer, just skip 
restive ether
<@!272812398308622336> ok but u havent answered, have u played any other bo3 zom...
just the first DLC
misty cradle
so der eisendrache
restive ether
yeah
misty cradle
and zombies chronicles
i liked ww2's campaign i think
and the first zombies map
multiplayer only got good like at the end of their cycle sadly
gaunt mesa
treyarch needs to sit down and write their own game engine
restive ether
that wasn’t very epic
gaunt mesa
that isn't using IW5
gaunt mesa
either that or they fucking adopt uptodate IW8
restive ether
we living in 2003 boys
gaunt mesa
like bruh tac sprinting is now a part of my muscle memory
my entire playstyle is just deleted in cold war
because there are no sticks and there aren't proper stims
nor is there tac sprint or reasonable sliding
misty cradle
Soon after this though, Condrey and Schofield found themselves out of Activision, with Condrey now the President at a 2K Games Development Studio in Silicon Valley. He has also poached a number of staff from Sledgehammer to come work with him, and according to Schreier, this has put fear into current Sledgehammer employees.
gaunt mesa
nor is there dead silence and good perks
gaunt mesa
> Soon after this though, Condrey and Schofield found themselves out of Activisi...
lol we know this is bullshit
restive ether
CW demolished the normal movement
misty cradle
i havent even played CW yet
lethal kayak
apple watch?
restive ether
yes
restive ether
i mean
they should
but will they use the time?
probably not
like i’m pretty sure most of AW was done in one year
same with BO3
restive ether
and that’s been a trend for the last couple years
misty cradle
bo3 is the last one where they actually put time in shit
see: Zombies Chronicles releasing mid 2017
1.5 year after their cycle ended
and then infinite warfare 
half walrus
@lime pivot
twilit jungle
pearl sail
I wonder who that is meant for?
restive ether
half walrus
reminds me of the work situation he's having to deal with rn
tepid olive
lethal kayak
half walrus
@lapis vessel I vaguely remember an objc logger you wrote or something similar, cant track down a link
any ideas or am i just crazy
pearl sail
@lethal kayak thank you sir
half walrus
apparently IDA 7.5 SP3 includes the ios sdk now
half walrus
half walrus
@tardy narwhal I think a good solution to a lot of the problems people are bringing up here abt dragon is using fairly technical language to describe certain features
like, i abstracted out control files and filters recently; not sure how to handle that in terms of describing it as a feature
half walrus
he was prolly tryna come up with bars n didn't see the car in front of em
restive ether
f
half walrus
thank you will smith from youtube rewind
wicked summit
hi guys
burnt niche
<@784972671133548574> who’s fault is it
Might ve been mine.
restive ether
restive ether
just drive bro
restive ether
i hope you didn’t tell the cop that
restive ether
did you blow a red light dog
burnt niche
Yea
wicked summit
@restive ether I made a dock transparency tweak
where is my Advanced Developer role?
restive ether
pog
burnt niche
Both cars totalled
restive ether
yes
burnt niche
So they check the footage?
restive ether
probably
burnt niche
FUCK
restive ether
if it’s there i don’t see why they wouldn’t use it
restive ether
i doubt theyd be able to tell you’re on your phone
you just gotta sell that you really thought it was green
burnt niche
Nah they wont
restive ether
and had a mental stroke lol
burnt niche
My insurance will cover it right?
burnt niche
Progressive
burnt niche
Well im gonna list the car as totalled
His car was shitty asf
Like a old ass truck
restive ether
rip car
burnt niche
Im not fixing it
restive ether
damage just looks like it’s on the doors?
burnt niche
Yes
restive ether
unless the frame is fucked too
door shouldn’t be too bad
might be able to get a quote on a fix
restive ether
as long as the frame isn’t fucked i’d take it
restive ether
oh so the axel is probably fucked
burnt niche
Yea
restive ether
yeah probably not worth
restive ether
big sad
burnt niche
Cuz bruh my school had a xero tolerance policy
restive ether
i had a dude that fought the same kid five years in a row
and the one kid lost every time lol
restive ether
what's the chance I graduate?
1
wicked summit
100% 😮
restive ether
no 1
restive ether
no 1
twilit jungle
1 in x
lethal ice
x in 1
tepid olive
Wtf this works
I am connecting to Java Minecraft server on bedrock 
and logging in to my Java account
I swear these plugin developers
half walrus
was gonna drop a shit ton of stuff tonight
need to test it
phone bricked by sbreload
late ridge
restive ether
phone bricked by sbreload
f
half walrus
w/ guest performance by OTA updates, it seems
gaunt mesa
can someone explain how to use IOKit in xcode
atleast for iPhoneOS targets
cuz i keep getting a whole lot of this
tepid olive
Can smbdy explain what the question mark in the ternanry operator is? Thankyou
Int y = (x>3) ? 2 : 1;
What does that mean?
primal perch
@tepid olive
int y;
if (x > 3)
y = 2;
else
y = 1;```its functionally identical to this
tepid olive
Oh
So the question mark serves as true and the “:” serves as false right?
And also why do they use question mark?
primal perch
So the question mark serves as true and the “:” serves as false right?
yea
tepid olive
Gotcha so its cuz question mark isnt so important as a character so they used it here
It dosent have like meaning in C right?
Like ! Means not
primal perch
nope just for ?:
eternal crater
tyfti
pearl sail
chocolate weed milk
That sounds good and lit
half walrus
damn share
lethal ice
idk how much flower was actually in it
half walrus
if this was the issue i'm gonna cry
lethal ice
it was actually really good tho i could taste the weed but it didnt taste like flower
flower tastes very dirty
half walrus
@misty cradle
I fixed signe
decided to just entirely de-alloc the view like we did at one point; we didn't because each time the view got created it'd hang for about a second
pearl sail
half walrus
so i ran metrics on that and figured out it was happening when WTMGlyphDetector processed the json each time it got created
turned that into a shared instance and added some logic to not have it re-add gestures
lethal ice
half walrus
also fixed a memory leak
burnt niche
Someone needs to start posting tweak tutorials
half walrus
scoop u fried yet
primal perch
lethal ice
hot chocojuana
half walrus
i agree
lethal ice
bruh the pot hat curdled milk stuck to the bottom
good thing i strained the milk first
pearl sail
pearl sail
half walrus
damn i thought i was so good when i wrote this shit
pearl sail
It really does work either way lmao
primal perch
wtf
primal perch
lapis vessel
@half walrus https://github.com/Muirey03/MessageLog don't know how well it works anymore
half walrus
i'm about to throw some shit loosely related to this in there so fight me
lord i'd love to release spam the shit out of the sub rn
fluid lintel
Hi has anyone figured out how cve 2020-9979 works?
half walrus
half walrus
idk if i'm relieved it was an easy fix or sad that it was an easy fix
we spent like 2 weeks on that
half walrus
what was wrong with it even
still don't know, honestly the proper way to do it is still clearing the paint from the layer
half walrus
so
and we didn't figure this out then bc we were both just plugging the shit in and letting it work
we have BGNumberCanvas (View) that gets injected into springboard and floats above everything
it has a self.glyphDetector which handles, well, guess
so the layer issue shit where nothing would clear is in BGNumberCanvas
misty cradle
ah
half walrus
what we tried before was what i do now which is de-allocating the whole ass thing and making a new one
misty cradle
we just threw everything at it, hoping it would work 
half walrus
but we decided not to do that bc there was a 3s delay
every time we made a new one
so what we weren't realizing or knowledgable enough to figure out at the time was
this takes an absurd amount of time to run
half walrus
loading in like 50 files and serializing all of em
lethal ice
school in <6 hours hopefully i wake up still baked
misty cradle
ahh
lethal ice
i've heard ingestion makes it last longer
half walrus
so i just have that really expensive code only run once, make the object its in shared so it doesn't get dereffed
misty cradle
ahh ok
half walrus
funny thing is i only figured that out bc i ported it to dragon
and forgot to have it copy over the bundle
misty cradle
now port it back to theos 
half walrus
so it was going really fast but nothing worked
thank god i dont pay attention anymore
still should build with theos rn
gonna start making or generating theos makefiles for my projects so ppl dont have to download dragon
misty cradle
oki
half walrus
pushed changes if ur interested in fucking w it
primal perch
yeah i guess then my virginity can go away
granite frigate
how do i install theos for ios 13 on arch linux
glacial matrix
how do i install theos for ios 13 on arch linux
have you tried https://git.io/theosinstall?
glacial matrix
I don't know what "the toolchain failed" is
odd musk
Does anyone have the pbzx tool used in here?: https://kittywhiskers.eu/the-chronicles-of-big-sur-conclusion/
I'm trying to extract files from payloadv2 (Big Sur)
tepid olive
stat final today 
odd musk
half walrus
beautiful
tepid olive

granite frigate
did i do something wrong? my tweak doesnt have a controll file
high river
Any way to code js tweaks apart from supercharge?
granite frigate
high river
rips
granite frigate
what did i do wrong
manic forum
use javascript they said, it'll be fun they said
high river
then is there any way to hook into springboard with supercharge
high river
use javascript they said, it'll be fun they said
it's very fun
manic forum
did i do something wrong? my tweak doesnt have a controll file
Create it?
Theos should create it but if it didn't you can create it yourself
high river
ALSO y are u using var???
manic forum
ALSO y are u using var???
to prove that it is not caused by using const
high river
-_- ur trying to use array methods on a string
manic forum
@cedar star you can access the characters as if it were an array, you can't modify it however. But when you try to modify it it will fail silently and not even throw an error
high river
i thk
cedar star
¯_(ツ)_/¯
manic forum
@high river there are literally no explicit function calls in that screenshot
high river
i call things whatever
granite frigate
i cant make
high river
i don't care about their actual names
granite frigate
bro im actually so stupid
cedar star
Strings are immutable in javascript.
granite frigate
manic forum
i cant make
Did you install the toolchain?
high river
alright imma go cry and learn objc
manic forum
Strings are immutable in javascript.
Yeah but it doesn't throw an error when you modify them, it just fails silently
cedar star
ok
manic forum
alright imma go cry and learn objc
I learned Objective-C by making tweaks. No one here recommends this but I did it anyway and it was painful but it worked.
granite frigate
big brain
manic forum
that probably won't work if you don't have any programming experience though
high river
I learned Objective-C by making tweaks. No one here recommends this but I did it...
that how i learned js. but when i tried it on objc everyone yelling at me to learn objc first
manic forum
@granite frigate depends on how you use it
cedar star
i just made a few apps on objc
manic forum
Running theos on the device itself? If so you can either use the terminal on the device itself or ssh to the device from a computer.
cedar star
get you some basic experience
make a calculator, word search game
then tweaks are just about learning logos ig
granite frigate
sshing into the device from the computer sounds easier tbh
typing on phone is pain
manic forum
Running theos on a computer? You need to be able to connect using ssh for make package install to work but if you transfer and install the packages manually using a method that doesn't involve ssh you don't need ssh
high river
what do u recommend learn objc by making tweaks or learn both seperatly?
manic forum
what do u recommend learn objc by making tweaks or learn both seperatly?
you can't make tweaks without objective-c
Well, technically you could with ObjectiveScript or C but even then you need to know Objective-C
high river
ik but should i learn them together or speratly
granite frigate
learn objc first ig then start tweaks
manic forum
yeah
manic forum
granite frigate
/home/user
manic forum
/home/user
That's for linux
manic forum
what folder is ~ ?
Unless you put the tilde (~) in a quote, it will be expanded by your shell to the value of $HOME.
manic forum
- on macOS:
/Users/<username> - on Linux:
/home/<username> - on iOS:
/var/mobile - on Windows:
C:\Users\<username>
manic forum
can i do app dev with theos?
Yes
granite frigate
tbh just use xcode
manic forum
There's an application template that ships with theos, you can create an application project using nic.pl
granite frigate
yes
manic forum
recommended tutorial?
I doubt there's one
high river
for apps but not for tweaks
granite frigate
if u want to make a app based tweak then use swift and xcode
manic forum
I hate swift because I can't use it it is a terrible language
granite frigate
f
high river
same
high river
im on windows with wsl
manic forum
You can't use Xcode unless you use macOS
You could create a macOS VM and learn stuff using that which is how I learned some basic Swift before I got a mac
After I got a mac I learned Objective-C and proceeded to become a Swift hater
high river
i can't figure out how to get icloud working on the vm so i gave up
also is application_modern objc?
manic forum
Yes
There should also be application_modern_swift which is swift but i could be wrong
restive ether
true
high river
i dont think i have that one
damn i need to find an objective c app tutorial
all of them so far are OLD
tepid olive
gm @genuses @restive ether
restive ether
true
tepid olive
gm @ moderators
high river
so how many of u use swift for tweaks if so any limitations compared to objc
tepid olive
swift in tweaks is dumb
high river
i did
tepid olive
high river
alr
tepid olive
if you want a more general guide on the language check pins
twilit jungle
tepid olive
<:RIP:586643815524335642>
r/Israel
twilit jungle
misty cradle
@twilit jungle 
restive ether
r/Aaron
nimble parcel
then is there any way to hook into springboard with supercharge
that’s coming in preview 2