development

[lethal ice]

We do drugs

[narrow mason]

Kill everyone with drugs

[lethal ice]

:E_FeelsCringeMan:
@vivid dew

[narrow mason]

Just like in Uprising

[tepid olive]

ok

[lethal ice]

we will be victorious bro

[tepid olive]

imma go to bed now

gn

[lethal ice]

wtf

imagine

[narrow mason]

Gn

[lethal ice]

gn

[primal perch]

:gn:

[lethal ice]

gn dont let the meth bugs bite

[tepid olive]

true

ok byeee

[primal perch]

:oomf:

[narrow mason]

this eating soap

[primal perch]

true

https://tenor.com/view/heavenly-floop-heavenly-floop-soap-he-gif-15669148

[narrow mason]

why doesn’t he eat regular people food

Bruh OxyContin

[lethal ice]

fuck oxy

fuck oxy

although it do really disintegrate pain

[primal perch]

yea true gimme drugs br o

[narrow mason]

Ye

It’s addictive tho

And makes you feel like shit tbh

Idk I don’t like

[primal perch]

cetirizine and ibuprofen are the real Gs

[azure sail]

hello shep

[primal perch]

you dont have to do anything @cold urchin

it works

[lethal ice]

i was given morphine at the hospital once my pain instantly disappeared, i can see why people use it

[primal perch]

gm @azure sail

[lethal ice]

gm alpher

[azure sail]

Gm scoob

[lethal ice]

but fr fuck opiods

they destroy lives

[azure sail]

opium war flashbacks

[lethal ice]

[narrow mason]

M

[lethal ice]

M

[narrow mason]

Bruh

How

[primal perch]

:letsfuckingfish:

[narrow mason]

mono

[lethal ice]

i am also a white 17-year-old male

looking to consume opium

[primal perch]

i am not a white 17 year old male

[lethal ice]

[narrow mason]

@vivid dew do you raid your grandparents drug cabinets

[primal perch]

@vivid dew do you raid your grandparents drug cabinets
@narrow mason

[narrow mason]

[primal perch]

is this really what i waste my time doing all day

[lethal ice]

okay so my mom didnt know what a 40 was

how

[narrow mason]

Yes

[primal perch]

posting yellow face emotes and saying true

and quoting message

[narrow mason]

Yes

It’s the life

[primal perch]

[lethal ice]

posting yello face emotes and saying true
@primal perch

[lethal ice]

[primal perch]

le fr

[lethal ice]

posting yellow face emotes and saying true: 90% of us

[primal perch]

the other 10% of us

weeb

[lethal ice]

them*

[primal perch]

us and them

[lethal ice]

yeah stfu anime pic

charmander ass

[primal perch]

ok anime girl profile picture

and poorly drawn shaggy

[lethal ice]

POORLY WTF

I DREW THAT

[primal perch]

ye

ye true

[lethal ice]

oh my god

im gonna eat

a nutella sandwich

[primal perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/696449618539708548.png?v=1

[lethal ice]

dude stfu

so good

[primal perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/696449618539708548.png?v=1

[lethal ice]

im just sad i have no weed or else it would be better

[primal perch]

bruh

[lethal ice]

weed makes every food taste better its fact

well actually i still have but i just cant consume it

need clean pee bro

[primal perch]

true

hydrohomies

[lethal ice]

speaking of

time to take the first alcohol piss of hte night

[primal perch]

true i gotta piss

@here piss break

[lethal ice]

piss break complete

[primal perch]

true

[lethal ice]

when uroboro reads this hes gonna be annoyed that he wasted so much time reading the retards talking about drugs

[primal perch]

shlorp go to invisible

i think he gave up a while ago

[cold urchin]

So does anyone know if itspossible ?

[lethal ice]

yeah true

@primal perch he used the emote

he is one of us now

[primal perch]

true

[lethal ice]

we have converted the frenchman

@ uroboro

[primal perch]

true

[lethal ice]

ok the shots kicking in now bro

the drunk is starting

and now im cold

and everyone is leaving so rip

fun convo boys but its dead now

[primal perch]

fr

:julesgone:

wtf

fake jule

[lethal ice]

uhh

[primal perch]

there

ultra ghost ping

yea jules died

[narrow mason]

[primal perch]

wtf nvm

[lethal ice]

JULES

WTF

HES AWAKE

[glacial matrix]

when uroboro reads this hes gonna be annoyed that he wasted so much time reading the retards talking about drugs
@lethal ice yes 🦀

[lethal ice]

hi

[primal perch]

[glacial matrix]

Hi

[primal perch]

gm

[lethal ice]

was there any part you enjoyed reading?

[glacial matrix]

No

[lethal ice]

great!

[primal perch]

ye true

[lethal ice]

dont worry

i see through you

[primal perch]

i dont think we enjoyed reading most of that either

[glacial matrix]

2k messages in like 2h

[lethal ice]

meth man

[glacial matrix]

“Y’all need Jesus”

[primal perch]

true

[lethal ice]

lol

it was a fun conversation though

you are just collateral

[glacial matrix]

Hmm

[dusk river]

hey everyone, is there a mini tutorial or something for Dragon?

[tardy narwhal]

check the dragon wiki if it exists, else just use theos

[tepid olive]

You did it! Congratulations on submitting four (or more) pull requests and contributing to open source projects this month. Each of your contributions has passed the 14-day review period which means you have earned a reward! You can either choose to receive a limited edition tee or donate the proceeds to plant a tree.

[grim sparrow]

Dang I’ve still got 2 days before all of mine clear

[faint timber]

2017

What a fucking era

2016 and 2017 jailbreak era

[misty cradle]

2378 messages later

“Y’all need Jesus”
@ uroboro#4324 fr

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688124600269144162/766923439708962816/image0.jpg

@vivid dew true

[misty cradle]

@glacial matrix Hi, are you there?

[glacial matrix]

What do you need from me?

[misty cradle]

Some wisdom

ObjC pointer members are currently not allowed in unions in either C or C++ mode. Do you know why this is the case?

[glacial matrix]

Ohboy

[misty cradle]

I can't find much about it, only 1 thread which patches LLVM and allows you to do it

[glacial matrix]

I do not know why, sorry

[misty cradle]

Ah ok, no problem

[grim sparrow]

[glacial matrix]

Did toilet cat 1 get flushed down?

[misty cradle]

yes :((

Wait they got him back out, @tepid olive

I hope DGh0st or Muirey knows why this is the case with unions

The ObjC pointer member causes all of the defaulted special functions of the union that directly contains the member to be defined as deleted, except when the member has an in-class initializer, the default constructor isn't defined as deleted.

[glacial matrix]

I prefer not to work with C++ because of all the lack of knowledge about implementation details I have

[misty cradle]

lol

[nimble parcel]

ObjC pointer members are currently not allowed in unions in either C or C++ mode. Do you know why this is the case?
@misty cradle possibly because it isnt compatible with arc since it would have to know whether the union is the object or not in order to figure out whether to retain/release it

[misty cradle]

[nimble parcel]

although if that were the case then theoretically __unsafe_unretained objects would work fine

[misty cradle]

I’m just tryna have an Union with a UIImage * and NSArray *

[glacial matrix]

ew

why?

[tepid olive]

oop

[nimble parcel]

oh no

[misty cradle]

Well uh I’m returning pics from the photos and instead of having an extra argument, I could easily just return an image or just an array of pictures in the union

through my callback

[glacial matrix]

an imageview can do that :P

[nimble parcel]

polymorphism exists, make use of it

you can return an id and check the class at runtime

or use a protocol

[glacial matrix]

or an array of 1

[nimble parcel]

or that

[misty cradle]

[glacial matrix]

[nimble parcel]

a union wouldn’t have worked for this anyway

[misty cradle]

And why’s that

[nimble parcel]

because it doesn’t contain any information about which member the union represents

[misty cradle]

can you ELI5 that

[tepid olive]

kek

[surreal mountain]

g

[tepid olive]

yes i wanna know too

why

maybe i understand

after reading more on unions

yeah this makes sense

WOW

or an array of 1

@misty cradle yes my opinion does not matter but i suggest you just send it in an array anways, even if its just one image

[misty cradle]

@tepid olive ye that’s the plan

[tepid olive]

:frpensive:

i am late

lol

unions are cool tho

[misty cradle]

Also don’t ever say your opinion does not matter, bc it does

[tepid olive]

[surreal mountain]

Also don’t ever say your opinion does not matter, bc it does
@misty cradle

[turbid fjord]

any good python guides

[tepid olive]

also wondering

[turbid fjord]

@tepid olive

join

i guess

time to be a headass

[tepid olive]

wtf

[turbid fjord]

[restive ether]

rip

.gg/Python

[turbid fjord]

bad server

not even been in there 2 mins

[tepid olive]

lmao

[tepid olive]

woe

[turbid fjord]

mf already asking me questions

[tepid olive]

IT’S A THING

[restive ether]

@tepid olive i hope you know

[tepid olive]

huzzah

[restive ether]

you’ve pinged me

3 times

[tepid olive]

oop

lmao

[inner quail]

[restive ether]

and the staff

[tepid olive]

i didn’t know it pinged you guys

[eternal crater]

[tepid olive]

sorry lmao

[restive ether]

ily though

[turbid fjord]

lol

[tepid olive]

aww

[turbid fjord]

such a bad server

too many channels

[restive ether]

more than here? impressive

[tepid olive]

true

superbro

we should make a python server

that like

wrecks theirs

lmao

[turbid fjord]

can the video actually show up

[tepid olive]

true

[turbid fjord]

ben

ben

ben

brb

[tepid olive]

true

[turbid fjord]

DAMN

discord cdn down

?

oh well

yea we should make a better python server

[tepid olive]

or

maybe a better programming help server in general

[turbid fjord]

trueeeeee

[tepid olive]

i could write a bot for it

[turbid fjord]

@restive ether they have 86 channels including VC

[tepid olive]

[turbid fjord]

only the ones i can see

god

they just have a hundered

[tepid olive]

ok

who makes the server

[turbid fjord]

how we gonna get people to join tho

[tepid olive]

hmm

i could figure smth out

disboard and stuff

[turbid fjord]

cos why would people not have a reason to go to the official server

[tepid olive]

well

i’ve been in the official server

ngl some of the people there are just head-up-asses

[turbid fjord]

true

all python channels have slow mode on it

[tepid olive]

lmao

[turbid fjord]

also i know absolutely nothing about coding

[tepid olive]

lmao

[turbid fjord]

bruhhhh
the guide the python server told me sucks

https://pythondiscord.com

there literally nothing remotely decent on the internet

[eternal crater]

What are you trying to do

[turbid fjord]

not much just trying to find an online python guide that isn’t youtube

[valid venture]

don’t diss my man Indian tutorial man

[turbid fjord]

bruh

[valid venture]

https://www.w3schools.com/python/

https://automatetheboringstuff.com

https://docs.python.org/3/tutorial/index.html

Anything with a price tag is BS, don’t pay for it

py TLDR: change your indents to 4 spaces if you use a editor like nano or atom

[modern tapir]

lmao
@tepid olive do I know U

[tepid olive]

no

[modern tapir]

I-

Ok

[nocturne yacht]

Bruh lmao

[tepid olive]

oop

i need a new pfp

animoji is almost as cring

[lethal ice]

[tepid olive]

i get it

i never wanted it this way

[lethal ice]

@valid venture hey do you still compile things?

cc @tepid olive

[tepid olive]

hm

whats up

[lethal ice]

hi

do you compile things

tr1 told me u do

@tepid olive

namely SDL2

for ios

[misty cradle]

SDL2 on Procursus wen

[primal perch]

True

[valid venture]

@lethal ice SDL2 should have compile scripts for iOS apps

[primal perch]

At true

[valid venture]

static lib tho

[lethal ice]

needs xcode

[primal perch]

[valid venture]

yeah that

clone the repo, should be there

[lethal ice]

my hackintosh dead

uefi fucked

[valid venture]

I don’t got a box hook up for compiling shit

[lethal ice]

too lazy to fix

[primal perch]

L

[valid venture]

so @tepid olive you’re our last hope

[lethal ice]

lmao

[primal perch]

@tepid olive true

[lethal ice]

@tepid olive true

[valid venture]

! false

[primal perch]

&main

[lethal ice]

&main

[primal perch]

Bro sdl

[lethal ice]

sdl2 is good

[primal perch]

[lethal ice]

lightweight and has everythign u need

[primal perch]

This is me using sdl

[lethal ice]

but actually now that i think about it objc is probably fine for games lol

[primal perch]

Wtf runtime cost

Dynamic dispatch

[lethal ice]

[valid venture]

damn I need to hurry up and 1 v 1 hayden on compiles/repo

[primal perch]

Literally unusable

What how

[valid venture]

magic school bus

[primal perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688124600269144162/767112815970091058/image0.jpg

[lethal ice]

MS FRIZZLE

WTF

[valid venture]

steal her look

[lethal ice]

she stole mine bro

i wear planets on my head

[primal perch]

Mrs frizzle lookin kinda thick

[tepid olive]

@vivid dew is this better sir

google is good

[primal perch]

Leviathan

[lethal ice]

[tepid olive]

it's better than a memoji

i just don't like that it has two ms lol

@lethal ice this https://www.libsdl.org ?

[lethal ice]

@tepid olive yeah that

[tepid olive]

do you want to dynamic link it or static link it

because i can add it to the repo rq or just give u a static lib

ok i did it

helo good sirs

[lethal ice]

can i get a static lib?

[tepid olive]

sure

[lethal ice]

just arm64

[tepid olive]

ill do both. why not.

[lethal ice]

lol okay thanks

[upper wigeon]

sdl2 is hot as fuck

[lethal ice]

ye

[upper wigeon]

i love it

[lethal ice]

ye

sdl2 on ios

Kanye West Saying "WTF"

[upper wigeon]

what will he say next

[lethal ice]

poop

[tardy narwhal]

“brenbreak fake”

[lethal ice]

scoop

[upper wigeon]

brenfake

[primal perch]

sdl2 is hot as fuck
@upper wigeon true true

[tardy narwhal]

damn, you’re ahead of the curve

[primal perch]

[upper wigeon]

wrote an class in c++ that manages sdl windows, i really wanna make a game that uses multiple windows to render itself 👀

nobody does that :(

[lethal ice]

c++

🗿

[upper wigeon]

go ahead, write a window manager in c

[tepid olive]

🗿
@lethal ice

[upper wigeon]

trust me i hated doing c++ too

[tepid olive]

bren has the advanced dev role but not the dev role

[upper wigeon]

what can i say

i like pink

[tepid olive]

true

yeah that's a really nice shade

i might do the same when i get edition

idk

[upper wigeon]

i preferred the og edition green

but meh

[tepid olive]

but edition is far away from me lmao

i still don't even have pro

:when:

[upper wigeon]

you must waste a lot of your life here to do it

[primal perch]

Same

I actually have legit edition unlike most green name

[tepid olive]

wdym?

most green names have fake edition?

[primal perch]

Yea

[tepid olive]

omg eckspozed

i kinda wanna be a greenname now

[tardy narwhal]

edition is given to geniuses

[primal perch]

[tepid olive]

lmao i've been here for like 2 months

and i still don't have pro

[primal perch]

Although I lost my xp but i was top 10 before account loss

No life

[tardy narwhal]

bren said it pretty much, you gotta waste a good chunk of your life for the roles

[tepid olive]

woe

[primal perch]

Last night probably got you halfway alone tho

That was a lot of messages

[tepid olive]

oh yeah

i'm on 24

6 more until pro

but it takes a long time to level up ngl

it might be like a week before it happens

[tepid olive]

@lethal ice min ios v?

[misty cradle]

10/11 best

@tepid olive true

[lethal ice]

@tepid olive 11 prob

[tepid olive]

ok

[lethal ice]

i'd say 10 but nah

[tepid olive]

this should hopefully do the trick for u @lethal ice sorry it took so long im just busy

[primal perch]

true thanks SDL time on ios

[faint timber]

Damn imagine imgui on iOS using framebuffer as a directx alternative

[lethal ice]

@tepid olive thank u

does it have sdl2main also?

[faint timber]

Imagine not compiling body dynamic and static for production build

[tepid olive]

@lethal ice the xcode proj only compiled that

I didnt bother doing a whole procursus makefile doing the configure script and all

[faint timber]

Yah fuck that

[lethal ice]

oh okay

it should work then thanks

[tepid olive]

No problem. If it doesnt just tell me and ill work somethin out

[upper wigeon]

imgui but opengles

[tepid olive]

gm

[tepid olive]

Has anyone else ever had a conversation with someone that literally made yourself loose all hope you had for humanity?

[twilit jungle]

~~everyday in #development ~~

[tepid olive]

Omg yes

K just making sure it’s not just me

[misty cradle]

~~everyday in #development ~~
@twilit jungle you everyday with @misty cradle

[primal perch]

you guys check genius bar?

[tepid olive]

@everyone
@vivid dew

@tepid olive
@vivid dew

[glacial matrix]

java
python

[eternal crater]

Has anyone else ever had a conversation with someone that literally made yourself loose all hope you had for humanity?
@tepid olive yeah I’m here pretty often

[glacial matrix]

python pays my bills

[tepid olive]

true

python does my laundry!

[primal perch]

python is my homework

[tepid olive]

i wish

python does my math hw
@grave sparrow believable

it’s funny how possible that is lol

[grim sparrow]

I like making small things in Python

Like something to do homework

Or a small discord bot to control your hue lights

[tepid olive]

i use js for discord bots

idk why

it’s just more comfortable for me

[grim sparrow]

I just use Python because I know it well

[tepid olive]

yeah true

[grim sparrow]

Well yeah, use what you know best

[tardy narwhal]

#development message

praise

[primal perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710656279089250315/767141276466020392/unknown.png

true

[glacial matrix]

[tepid olive]

:frstache:

[primal perch]

true do it

[glacial matrix]

🇫🇷

[primal perch]

the yellow face meme

true

[tardy narwhal]

no way it’s happening

[primal perch]

he did it

[tepid olive]

true

[tardy narwhal]

anxiously waiting

[glacial matrix]

:​f​r​:

[lethal ice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/710656279089250315/767141276466020392/unknown.png

wtf

[primal perch]

nice meme

[restive ether]

how are you feeling on a scale of 1-5

[primal perch]

2

[restive ether]

[glacial matrix]

🅱️

[grim sparrow]

how are you feeling on a scale of 1-5
@restive ether 1

[primal perch]

[grim sparrow]

[primal perch]

there

desperate times call for inspect element

[glacial matrix]

lmao

[grim sparrow]

https://youtu.be/MAlSjtxy5ak

[lethal ice]

nfr

[runic aurora]

What’s the best guide to start getting into tweaks

[tardy narwhal]

learning objc

[runic aurora]

Isn’t objc basically c#

[primal perch]

very different

C# is basically microsoft's equivalent though i guess compared to apple

[runic aurora]

So objc vs swift?

[tardy narwhal]

wouldn’t compare the two either

https://github.com/raywenderlich/objective-c-style-guide

peek over there & check raywenderlich in general for objc

get a grip on it & come back then

[runic aurora]

Will check it out. I appreciate it. Want to get into tweaks. Loved making android apps but fk Android phones

[tardy narwhal]

Np, it’ll take some time since imo the learning curve is a bit more crude. on droids you’re well on your way with regular basic Java/ Kotlin skills whereas it’s not that analogous for iOS

if you got a good grip over objc you’ll enjoy making tweaks + have a better understanding, else if you just need some clout & faster entry, just look at open source projects and copy/paste code together that works

[runic aurora]

I’ll get into it and find out more. I find it crazy that tweaks can use system functions and stuff so I need to look into if that’s actually modifying base iOS or something else

[tardy narwhal]

rebrand as female for more positive input from the subreddit, top tier tip

[runic aurora]

All my tweaks would be personal use. No clout or $$

I have a day job lol

[lethal ice]

rebrand as female for more positive input from the subreddit, top tier tip
@tardy narwhal

[tardy narwhal]

that’s good for you but yeah, idc if you make stuff paid or free, important to me would be that you genuinely learn objc

too many skiddies join this discord and think we got a one click solution to making tweaks in no time

for them to get a bit more pocket money but yeah, world don’t work like that

[lethal ice]

[runic aurora]

Lol I know it’s more in depth than that but everyone wants to be rich and famous

[lethal ice]

fuck fame

i want money

im not gonna turn down an opportunity to pay for college

[tardy narwhal]

well bless you good sir, if you got questions surrounding objc just shoot them in here. People are more than willing to help serious learners

[runic aurora]

Talk about college. I’m still paying mine off so I feels

[tardy narwhal]

for top tier objc tips ping this sir @twilit jungle

he does objc for breakfast and dinner

[faint timber]

fuck fame
@lethal ice close

[primal perch]

bruh he literally may as well have written springboard @tardy narwhal

[tardy narwhal]

underrated comment

[primal perch]

i dont think anyone in this server knows more about springboard ngl

good knowledge which has helped me

:intjpray:

[runic aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/chuckles-im-in-danger-ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-gif-14149962

looks at readme

[twilit jungle]

[tepid olive]

too many skiddies join this discord and think we got a one click solution to making tweaks in no time
@tardy narwhal ik this is targeted at me

[tardy narwhal]

I didn’t mention you in particular though but if you feel addressed then i guess🤷🏽‍♀️

[eternal crater]

Hey @tardy narwhal do you have the link to that website that instantly creates tweaks for me

[tepid olive]

uhm

i’m not mass1ve

but here’s the link

https://twekmakor.gg.net.co

there

also

pro tip

[tardy narwhal]

@eternal crater yeah bro hold on, i think it’s https://theos.dev/

[eternal crater]

Perfect thanks guys!

[tepid olive]

for cute pics of hamsters, go to xhamster.com

epic tip

[primal perch]

true

thanks

wtf

[eternal crater]

Rule 2 😳

[tepid olive]

omg

sorreee

i mean at least i didn’t send pics lmao

[runic aurora]

for cute pics of hamsters, go to xhamster.com
@tepid olive how do I access that? It says I have 12 viruses

[tepid olive]

ok

so here’s whatcha do

install miniviruscleaner™️ confirmed working 2010

and

click the big red “clean” button

[runic aurora]

Pls hurry I only have 5 minutes before my phone turns off forever

[tepid olive]

if your computer’s screen goes black and won’t turn on, it worked right

[runic aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/windows-error-virus-alert-downloading-virus-shut-down-download-complete-gif-16142328

[tepid olive]

true

[runic aurora]

Sorry if repost

https://youtu.be/HluANRwPyNo

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-how-many-times-do-we-need-to-teach-you-old-man-slow-thick-gif-12272188

i'm going to need to see your meme license grandpa
@vivid dew I lost it in the war

[primal perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/748014476548374539.png?v=1

[faint timber]

[lethal ice]

[primal perch]

[tepid olive]

true

https://ifunny.co/picture/the-bastard-isn-t-even-trying-anymore-storyboardsucks-not-yulkytulky-uQwwhQ948?gallery=tag&query=storyboardsucks

kekw

[restive ether]

i funny is trash

[primal perch]

🪳

[runic aurora]

I get all my memes off tiktok. Stupid boomers

[primal perch]

dead channel

[lethal kayak]

[primal perch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/751177393573462016.png?v=1

[runic aurora]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/751177393573462016.png?v=1
@primal perch true

[tepid olive]

#general message

[primal perch]

true

[cinder island]

for cute pics of hamsters, go to xhamster.com
@tepid olive uh

[cinder island]

nice

@grave sparrow what assembly you using

doesn't look like what i used

ah

yeah i did different i think

[primal perch]

true now try this

mov rax, 0x2000089
mov rdi, bruh
syscall

bruh: db "~", 0```

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-ragememe-rageface-trolling-gif-4929853

[cinder island]

lol

gonna break it

[primal perch]

i would tell you but ill let you figure it out

note: possibly destructive

[cinder island]

hehehe

[primal perch]

arg1

for syscalls

[cinder island]

remove directory?

[primal perch]

path of ~

[cinder island]

so he's just

removing everything

?

cause

yes

[primal perch]

[cinder island]

lol

[surreal mountain]

false

[primal perch]

idk

[surreal mountain]

go find out

[primal perch]

true

[cinder island]

lmfao

do it

[primal perch]

If the directory is not an empty directory, rmdir() shall fail and set errno to [EEXIST] or [ENOTEMPTY].

F

[cinder island]

rip

where are you getting this documentation

[primal perch]

idfk its the same for *nix based baically

https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=rmdir

this would be the most accurate

[cinder island]

nice

i loved learning assembly

there's something so cool about it

lmfao

1001010100101010110101

i'm sure there's a binary translator

online

[primal perch]

just objdump the object file

[cinder island]

i'm too tired

to do

[surreal mountain]

someone teach me arm assembly

please

[primal perch]

10$ an hour

[cinder island]

that's what i did

arm

[surreal mountain]

is it worth?

[cinder island]

it was fun

[primal perch]

you tell me

[cinder island]

i mean

[surreal mountain]

shep goober is troll

idk if thats worth

[primal perch]

no ill do it for 10$ an hour deadass

[surreal mountain]

google.com to the rescue

[cinder island]

are you gonna do something with it?

lmfao

[primal perch]

[surreal mountain]

yes

[cinder island]

i think it's just for fun

to see how the computer manages memory

and shit

[surreal mountain]

no

[cinder island]

but i don't think i hate myself enough to write a whole sophisticated program in assembly

[primal perch]

objdump -d <binary>

but the gas syntax is default its ass

and the macos objdump has weird args

[surreal mountain]

https://cdn.quiprr.dev/oX4NsE8C.png

what does any of this shit mean

[primal perch]

-masm=intel i think

[cinder island]

what does any of this shit mean
@surreal mountain you need the documentation to see what the left part means

but musically

like MOV

means you're moving what's in

w10

to that stress

address

[surreal mountain]

this is notatio dylib

idk what any of this means

[primal perch]

assembly requires you to think very different from how you used to write a higher level language so you wont learn it overnight

[cinder island]

0x

[surreal mountain]

assembly requires you to think very different from how you used to write a higher level language so you wont learn it overnight
@primal perch yeah ive noticed

[primal perch]

its not that bad though

[surreal mountain]

its not easy to grasp i dont think

[cinder island]

it's a lot of logic

[primal perch]

its only logic

[lethal ice]

@grave sparrow i would be proud it if wasnt x64...

[primal perch]

literally the silicon is nothing but logic gates

[lethal ice]

arm

arm

[surreal mountain]

i literally put it in pseudocode mode
@grave sparrow

[lethal ice]

arm sixty four

[cinder island]

i can't believe i'm in dev channel

[lethal ice]

yes it can

lol

[cinder island]

and actually know what i'm talking g about

lol

[lethal ice]

arm macs can

also ur phone can

[primal perch]

or just use qemu

[surreal mountain]

[lethal ice]

wtf

ok

gn

[cinder island]

i've done arm

in mac

[rancid summit]

You do not have permission to use this command.

[cinder island]

capt

lol

[primal perch]

!slowmode 5

[lethal ice]

[primal perch]

wtf calm down

[surreal mountain]

how do i put ida in pseudocode mode

[primal perch]

SYS_WRITE equ 0x2000004

[surreal mountain]

https://cdn.quiprr.dev/c1yUZbmZ.png

wtf does that mean

[primal perch]

since you're using nasm

it returns the value at 0x13148

[surreal mountain]

WAIT

[primal perch]

8 bytes wide

[surreal mountain]

https://cdn.quiprr.dev/xp3X1ZJX.png

this is a lot more understandable

kinda

i know what else if means

so

[primal perch]

or just use #define with clang

[cinder island]

i think that makEs it more confusing for me

[primal perch]

clang /gcc both do assembly kek

[cinder island]

you have to switch between thinking in assembly

and higher language

yeah

[primal perch]

yea ill literally send you it

[cinder island]

it's possible

lol

yes

but

yeah

i've tried

lmfao

on paper

ducking hell

it was

[surreal mountain]

https://cdn.quiprr.dev/SEIGXc4G.png

[cinder island]

for school

[surreal mountain]

NSLOG

I FOUND ONE

POG

[cinder island]

we did all our code on paper

lol

like

[primal perch]

const char main[] = { 0x48, 0xC7, 0xC0, 0x04, 0x00, 0x00, 0x02, 0x68, 0x41, 0x42, 0x43, 0x0A, 0x48, 0xC7, 0xC7, 0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x48, 0x89, 0xE6, 0x48, 0xC7, 0xC2, 0x04, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x0F, 0x05, 0x58, 0xC3};
``` @grave sparrow go ahead compile it as  C

[cinder island]

quizzes and shit

[surreal mountain]

\x86 \xCE\xCA2i\xEA\x3F\x9E\x84\xFB\x88U\xB5V\x04f{\xF8z\x1E\xEB\x27\x83d\x18}J%\xD4\x31\xA2b\xB5f\x99\x8D&~\xFD\xEF\x2E\x86\x85G\xFE\x8EG\xFA\xBAt,\x05\xA5\xBB\xC3\x3A"`\x13n\xBE\x82P7\xF9\xFA\xA5|\x80\xAB\x84\x01\a4%\a\xA0M=\x1C\xA6q?ǽ\xF9\x13/x\xFE\xAD\xC0\xB7\xEA\x3D\x6B

what does this mean

[cinder island]

wtf

lmfao

@cinder island wtf
@grave sparrow our finals and tests were on paper

it was hard

cause you're used to typing

and the ide helping

[primal perch]

mov rax doesnt do anything except put a value into the register rax

the kernel interprets a certain value as write

yes

all write calls eventually go to that at some level

libc is just a wrapper for it

yea or jmp printf depending on the location

[surreal mountain]

how do i decode this

\x86 \xCE\xCA2i\xEA\x3F\x9E\x84\xFB\x88U\xB5V\x04f{\xF8z\x1E\xEB\x27\x83d\x18}J%\xD4\x31\xA2b\xB5f\x99\x8D&~\xFD\xEF\x2E\x86\x85G\xFE\x8EG\xFA\xBAt,\x05\xA5\xBB\xC3\x3A"`\x13n\xBE\x82P7\xF9\xFA\xA5|\x80\xAB\x84\x01\a4%\a\xA0M=\x1C\xA6q?ǽ\xF9\x13/x\xFE\xAD\xC0\xB7\xEA\x3D\x6B

[primal perch]

and at one point yea

[surreal mountain]

what is that called

[primal perch]

idk where did you get it

[surreal mountain]

fron nslog pseudocode

[primal perch]

ye

it wont brick your pc either

its fine

:trust:

gcc file.c

go ahead do it

executable

:nfr:

a.out

go ahead run a.out

[surreal mountain]

i really want to learn this low level stuff

[primal perch]

thats literally raw machine code

[surreal mountain]

what does that do

[primal perch]

stack

it subtracts a value from the stack pointer puts value there

stack pointer must be maintained after every subroutine or the program will shit itself

same concept yea

well most of them arent on the keyboard and are just arbitrary bytes

so you wont be able to type them out like that

yea

[surreal mountain]

https://cdn.quiprr.dev/SToU1shy.png

[primal perch]

L

find the 0x4142430A pattern and you can change what it prints

you can only modify those 4 bytes though

any addition or subtraction of the amount of bytes and the program wont execute because addresses are wrong

not necessarily overflows it would just start executing shit that could be data

or the wrong opcode order

undefined behavior

[twilit jungle]

so overwrite everything and it works

[primal perch]

the exact file yea

n

oh yeah you cant just copy that ma chine code is that what youre doing

[tepid olive]

true

[primal perch]

that works as an object file but it wont execute

[tepid olive]

when you're sure that your thing is finished and you find a horrible bug

[primal perch]

to do that youd have to copy the entire linked file and then its the exact same so yeah itll work

not by hand surely

yea

:frcoal:

or just use cp like a normal person

yea good

doing that all by hand youd need help

[rain falcon]

[primal perch]

true

eh im bored ill walk you through a little experiement

#include <stdio.h>

int main(void)
{
    for (int i = 0; i < 8; i++) {
        printf("bruh %i\n", i);
    } 
}
``` compile this rq

what do you think the experiment im showing you is going to be

[tepid olive]

shep is just built different

[primal perch]

its an old c standard really you dont need it these days but i like it

true

[tepid olive]

() in c also indicates var args

[primal perch]

its so you cant call a function before the args are defined

yea

[tepid olive]

(void) indicates no args

[primal perch]

and anyway run it it should give you the expected outcome you know

and send me a copy of the compiled because im on windows rn

tru

ok now load it up into ida and find the main function

hopper then

[tepid olive]

Ida does work on mac and it's fantastic

[primal perch]

assembly is all we need anyway

no decomp

[tepid olive]

oh sorry forgot you were pirating 😎 can't relate

[primal perch]

true lmao

so now you should see something akin to this

and if not it doesnt really matter since you can use that as areference

ye

yup thats it

yea

and we're going to make it print it 30 times instead of 8

with nothing but a patch

because the for loop has to check how many times we want to do it

each iteration

see if you can find what instruction would need to be patched

to do it 30 times

1e

so we need to change the immediate in the instruction cmp to 0x1e

83 7D F8 08

thats the whole instruction

something something x86 encodings the immediate is at the end

[rain falcon]

nfr

[primal perch]

tru

4 bytes vs 8

word is 2

[tepid olive]

word is 16 bytes on intel x86

bits*

God damn. Looking at x86 makes me realize that I really dont know x86

[primal perch]

beginning of subroutine wherever that is

push rbp just pushed the stack base pointer onto the stack

[tepid olive]

i mean I can get a sense of what's happening. just looks like a bunch of spam

[primal perch]

no

thats the process mapping address

well actually i think that can be anything either

regardless we only care about the offsets rn

anyway the stack pointer is at some undefined value (at static analysis) the OS gives your process anytime it runs

well thread more specifically

creating a new thread gives you a new stack pointer

and new register states

anyway

yea this is pretty unoptimized assembly since we just used -O0

but anyway find the cmp instruction thats where it eventually goes to loc f7f right

jge is jump if greater than

which checks the processor flags set by cmp or test

see the offset for the instruction cmp now

0xf56

[lethal kayak]

dickword vs qockword

[primal perch]

true

[tepid olive]

in asm you get global variables as registers have fun 😎

[primal perch]

jge doesnt even check any registers

well thats al ie

it checks the flag register

of which the flags are set by something like cmp

anyhoo open hex fiend go to 0xf56 + the immediate offset in the cmp instruction

which is like 2 or 3

3

change the 08 to 1E save it and run

no recompiling or any of that

[faint timber]

what I do

[primal perch]

yeah or one of its sibilngs

like jump relative jump absoluite but yea just jmp

[rain falcon]

nfr

[tepid olive]

damn. That sucks @grave sparrow can't relate 😎

[primal perch]

i literally forgot how to spell siblings

there

click the sidebar it shows hex offsets

[faint timber]

@grave sparrow delet ida home

[primal perch]

instead of dec

wait hold

no thats right

continue

no

at f56 is 83

now 3 bytes to the right just change that shit to 1e or anything between 0 and ff

doesnt really matter

as long as its just the immediate

well wherever the 08 is

probably 6

save and run and enjoy

tru

most instructions are more than 1 byte

in size

the immediate needs to be stored somewhere

well how is it going to store cmp [rbp - 0x8], 8 in one byte thats a lot right

[faint timber]

name jeff

[primal perch]

one byte of instructions worth is only 256 possible instructions

[lethal kayak]

name jeff
@faint timber

[primal perch]

the amount of possible x86 instruction combinations is massive

[faint timber]

tell that to aarch64

[primal perch]

no

nop and ret are 0x90 and 0xc3 accordingly

one byte one ins truction

it really depends on the instruction

[lethal kayak]

nop is the best instruction

[primal perch]

fr

[lethal kayak]

use a converter

[primal perch]

the 2000 page manual or assembler

i like the latter option

[faint timber]

0x1F2003D5

[lethal kayak]

nop

[primal perch]

https://defuse.ca/online-x86-assembler.htm#disassembly dick around with that its fun

mov eax 0 stuff like that

[faint timber]

0x000020D4

[lethal kayak]

true

[faint timber]

0x011000D4