surely they could just hide the path
#development
reef trail
robust radish
Yes
cloud yacht
yipped another hurtle I need to jump over
faint timber
just need to write a patchfinder
cloud yacht
So what would that basically just be the replcemenet for MSFindSymbol?
cloud yacht
Okay so are there resources on patchfinders?
timid furnace
generally these are all custom designed
first figure out what you're looking for in your stripped binary
then find markers that will help you find that location programmatically
usually people look for references to a string
so you find the location of the string, then you find where that location is referenced
cloud yacht
okay
timid furnace
in other cases the search is for a specific instruction sequence
but first you need to identify what you need to find first
im assuming its a specific function
cloud yacht
yeah 2 of them
faint timber
its open source btw @cloud yacht
cloud yacht
the engine is yeah
indigo peak
@cloud yacht for gameseagull i used a memmem 'fork' that looks 1 method instead of the whole binary to search for mov w8, #0x42700000 which is the stock instruction for the cheat
cloud yacht
I'm trying to find whetre the function is
faint timber
here is luaL_loadbuffer for arcade
sub_10012C258
the easiest way to patchfind this is memmem for the =[love \"arg.lua\"] string,
find the xref,
then search for the first bl instruction after the string xref,
lastly resolve the bl to address
cloud yacht
oh intresting
I'm not sure if loadbufferx is actually nessicary
so I would have to use #development message to find the correct image, then use memmem on the image to find the string, then from that fnd the instruction I desire, then resolve it's pointer, which I can pass to MSHookFunction?
faint timber
so I would have to use https://discord.com/channels/349243932447604736/688124600...
you only have to find the correct image on rootless, you can hardcode index 0 on rootful most likely
but its safer to just find the image on both regardless
cloud yacht
For some reason balatro just crashes on launch for my rootful device and no point writing 2 different implementations
Oh yeah I forgot theres a bunch of symbols the tool uses but doesn't patch
Although methrul said we can probably just include our own lua and use it's functions for that
I'll see how much work finding all those symbols would be
Given functions:
- lua_call
- lua_pcall
- lua_getfield
- lua_setfield
- lua_gettop
- lua_settop
- lua_pushvalue
- lua_pushcclosure
- lua_tolstring
- lua_toboolean
- lua_topointer
- lua_type
- lua_typename
- lua_isstring
but for now I'll just worry about the one's im patchijng
faint timber
For some reason balatro just crashes on launch for my rootful device and no poin...
doesn't crash for me
cloud yacht
it's not even a tweak thing I don't thiml
faint timber
how did you install the app
faint timber
well it tells you why
cloud yacht
yeah but i don't know how I would fix it
faint timber
you can't easilly unless you patch the app binary itself
cloud yacht
yeah not sure how they managed this
faint timber
you are just gonna have to disable all calls to ads
optool uninstall -p "/System/Library/Frameworks/AdServices.framework/AdServices" Balatro -c LC_LOAD_DYLIB
honestly
it's prob better to create a stub framework
cloud yacht
Ok wtf I am trying to compile a theos project and it's failing with
libfakeroot: connect: Permission denied
It's also spewing a bunch of warnings(?)
faint timber
Ok wtf I am trying to compile a theos project and it's failing with
`libfakeroo...
average brew moment
cloud yacht
this is linux
faint timber
interesting
faint timber
are you running native linux
cloud yacht
yeah
fakeroot is from the system as far as I'm aware
fedora 41
I probably upgraded from 40 after the last time I ran theos on here
ocean raptor
Given functions:
- lua_call
- lua_pcall
- lua_getfield
- lua_setfield
- lua_gett...
I already got lua_tolstring, lua_call, and lua_pcall patchfinder written
ocean raptor
Didn’t I tell you this a while ago
ocean raptor
I already got lua_tolstring, lua_call, and lua_pcall patchfinder written
I’m literally doing a stupid scan for like the first couple of instructions for these functions cause it was easier that way
faint timber
wait so apple just lets jitted lua on their appstore?
ocean raptor
wait so apple just lets jitted lua on their appstore?
In Apple Arcade
faint timber
but the premium app isn't arcade
ocean raptor
Hold on, the jit is disabled on iOS
faint timber
how does the lua execute then
ocean raptor
Interpreter
Luajit has both a jit and interpreter
Note: the JIT compiler is disabled for iOS, because regular iOS Apps are not allowed to generate code at runtime. You'll only get the performance of the LuaJIT interpreter on iOS. This is still faster than plain Lua, but much slower than the JIT compiler. Please complain to Apple, not me. Or use Android. :-p
faint timber
ah
cloud yacht
Didn’t I tell you this a while ago
Yeah but I was hoping you were wrong
cloud yacht
So what is the correct way to get the memory location to search for patch finding? Should i be relying on the result of MSGetImageByName, should I dlopen it with RTLD_NOLOAD (does that matter) and then use the result or is there some other way?
icy escarp
i like to use dladdr, it can return the base address of the binary youre targetting
orchid fulcrum
wooden yarrow
https://x.com/tsoding/status/1880538313549107250 a certain dumbass YouTuber catching strays rn 💀
X
placid kraken
tsoding does the most cursed shit
reef trail
any idea how to tell lldb where my dsc is stored? and what format the dsc needs to be in?
worthy mulch
Where do I get developer disk images for frida from Linux for iOS after 17.0.1+ ?
I'm trying to use frida as injected on a jailed device
reef trail
Where do I get developer disk images for frida from Linux for iOS after 17.0.1+ ...
why do you need the disk images
stray viper
They are personalised or something
They have to be generated for your device by Xcode
That only applies for iOS 17+
reef trail
That only applies for iOS 17+
oh
worthy mulch
so if all I have is linux?
that probably means that I'll be unable to connect to a running app, unless I get the app's pid somehow, which I dont' know how to do without trollstore or jb utilities
stray viper
so if all I have is linux?
Well you can try a macOS vm
Or hackintosh your machine lol
worthy mulch
but then how would I be able to generate the customized disk images? currently, i've been using a monterey vm on a proxmox cluster, but that server died over winter break
stray viper
but then how would I be able to generate the customized disk images? currently, ...
If you pair your phone to the Mac OS vm and install Xcode it will be generated
orchid fulcrum
that probably means that I'll be unable to connect to a running app, unless I ge...
this is for lldb rather than frida but the script itself may help for whatever you are trying to do (also prints the PID)
afaik you dont really have to "get" the ddi to connect via a debugger, once you mount it its enough
python -m pymobiledevice3 mounter auto-mount
which this should do
worthy mulch
afaik you dont really have to "get" the ddi to connect via a debugger, once you ...
i tried that, but the pymobiledevice3 mounter says that the ddi is mounted, but when I try running idevicescreenshot, it says that the ddi isn't mounted
cloud yacht
the pipe to a file isn't running as root since your shell is handling it
marsh ocean
the pipe to a file isn't running as root since your shell is handling it
how would i make it root
cloud yacht
you can probably just run sudo -s to give yourself a root shell then run it, or write somewhere your user can access
marsh ocean
ookay
thanks'
how would i use rm to delete all files and folders in a directory except a specific folder
cloud yacht
give it all the files in the folder other than the specified folder
you probably could use find with exec
marsh ocean
i figured it out
i had to do shopt -s extglob to enable extglob then do (while in the parent folder) rm -rf !(folder_name_i_want_to_keep)
robust radish
any idea how to tell lldb where my dsc is stored? and what format the dsc needs ...
It’s usually pulled from the device. Is a DDI mounted?
reef trail
It’s usually pulled from the device. Is a DDI mounted?
sir i'm on linux
i have a local copy of my dlc tho
icy escarp
Can use the dopamine fakeroot feature on my own tweaks? Is there a method for that or do I have to make a custom build?
Want my dylibs to look like they’re coming from a trusted path
orchid fulcrum
It’s usually pulled from the device. Is a DDI mounted?
he is on linux debugging an ios device, i opened an issue about this in llvm repo https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/issues/94921 but they told me it was expected. Tbh i am not sure if it indeed affects performance, parsing frameworks was indeed very slow in my experience and i couldn't find a way to make it use a cache. but maybe thats just because i was on windows
robust radish
you could patch and rebuild lldb, hardcoding your local cache path
there’s probably an easier way, but I didn’t see it when skimming around the repo
grave orchid
How do I install tailwind css
pallid totem
How do I install tailwind css
orchid fulcrum
you could patch and rebuild lldb, hardcoding your local cache path
@reef trail there you go, no idea where you would find the original path though. I am glad i got a mac instead of dealing with all this tbh
tepid olive
u can use the tailwind play cdn
just import it with script src
no build step needed
this is the most user friendly way to use tailwind
@grave orchid it work?
tepid olive
precisely
@grave orchid how are you seeing your changes though
do you have live server extension on vscode
grave orchid
do you have live server extension on vscode
no i dont 😭
I have that on my main machine
but not here
tepid olive
are you just opening the index.html everytime u make a change
grave orchid
yes 💀
tepid olive
oh get the extension
it will save a lot of time
it will give you a port to use so in the browser you would just go on http://localhost:4000 or smth
whatever number it gives u
ocean raptor
@robust radish holy crap capstone docs suck
I finally figured out how to get this to work again lol
only took an hour and a half lol
robust radish
im glad you got it working. how could the docs be more straightforward https://www.capstone-engine.org/lang_c.html
ocean raptor
took me 50 minutes to realize that address meant whatever the virtual address of the instruction is, not what location I want to start disassembling within the code buffer
lol
robust radish
yeah that’s fair
grave orchid
So do I do this?
ocean raptor
symbol finder done
now I just need to make it so that it will run at runtime correctly, but that's for tomorrow me lol
grave orchid
no with the script src u can just start using it
Oh
pastel dome
I don't recommend the script if you gonna make it in production
The node package should dynamically create a css only of the classes you use
exotic spire
The node package should dynamically create a css only of the classes you use
Doesn't npm build do this for you
Or whatever your manager is
in my case it was vite build iirc
pastel dome
Yes... There is a script src too that brings the entire tailwind into one file and it's heavy af.. I'd avoid that @exotic spire
exotic spire
Yes... There is a script src too that brings the entire tailwind into one file a...
I mean building the site already does that?
pastel dome
Yes.. but am not talking about the build tho
And building only uses the classes you use
It's dynamic
exotic spire
Yeah the project is only 4MB after building
pastel dome
It scans all ur js html files
While the script uses the entire tailwind library which you always should avoid.. it's only intended for development and u don't use npm
Even tailwind Devs say that
pastel dome
exotic spire
Yeah that makes no sense really
pastel dome
I recently found with a project in php I was working that many frameworks like vite or next whatever.. they always rebuild the tailwind css once u save the project..
In php you had to do manually... I was scratching my head why some classes never worked.. then found out the tailwind css file is made dynamically.. I never knew that
We really take hot reload for granted until you work on legacy web app like laravel
reef trail
> you could patch and rebuild lldb, hardcoding your local cache path
<@490758838...
yeah that's what i was going to do
honestly if i tried to move over to mac id be frustrated even more. Tweak dev is only one type of development i do and i don't want to have to change my entire development workflow for it
tepid olive
@exotic spire @pastel dome my brothers in christ, if this was a production app with many moving parts then yeah i would not advise the play cdn for tailwind, but on a simple html site like okemos it makes sense, having a build step complicates things. this is like back in the day when you imported bootstrap with script src too. and whats great is you can start building right away, in the future if you want to switch to the build step version of tailwind you can, this just makes it easier to get your project started and get the ball rolling
the dev is relatively inexperienced so the other way is a little convoluted for now, it will likely get in the way of progress
exotic spire
the dev is relatively inexperienced so the other way is a little convoluted for ...
I was very inexperienced first time I played with Tailwind and I still advise to go with the installation first
Configuring all that stuff is better at the beginning
tepid olive
I was very inexperienced first time I played with Tailwind and I still advise to...
we take for granted the installation route but its pretty daunting as a new dev, they are not using vite so even using the watch command every time is eh
so many pitfalls
if u didnt npm init ur project
you have to go into the package.json and change type to "module", then you have to create a tailwind config in the root folder just so that the vscode extension will activate in ur project
tepid olive
if u didnt npm init ur project
stuff that isnt in the docs necessarily that we personally know
granite frigate
for a basic ahh html site just use cdn lol
if you wanna build something you’d be using vite which solves it anyway
pastel dome
<@401996391842447360> <@1304848177832267858> my brothers in christ, if this was ...
True I agree, didn't know the context, apologies
tepid olive
np
wooden yarrow
end of a 2 hour debugging session
did u manage to fix the bug atleast
pearl sail
i have depression
MRW I spend 4 hours trying to debug code and the issue was a missing semicolon
wooden yarrow
average developing experience
sonic totem
MRW I spend 4 hours trying to debug code and the issue was a missing semicolon
Did the compiler not give you an error code?
pearl sail
Are you implying I'm working with a modern competent compiler 
pastel dome
Are you implying I'm working with a modern competent compiler <:troll:794397046...
Or maybe the compiler was just trolling
worthy mulch
where would I find the lldb sdk that I need for iOS remote debugging for linux? Currently, whenever I try and connect, it says that it's unable to locate the sdk
cloud yacht
So what is the correct way to get the memory location to search for patch findin...
Ok so not entirely sure how to do this now?
I did look at dladdr but it seems I need to pass it a function pointer, which means I need a function from the image, which I don't know how to reliably get.
I also found _dyld_get_image_header which seems promising, however, I realized I don't know how to get the length of the image to pass to memmem. Should I just get a large enough length that I know will contain my stuff or is there a smarter way to do it?
Also man it's hard to find proper documentation on the _dyld functions
so for the mac header I assume sizeofcmds is the size of my binary
Looks like the return of _dyld_get_image_header and MSGetImageByName are the same
orchid fulcrum
where would I find the lldb sdk that I need for iOS remote debugging for linux? ...
It is just an ios sdk, then you use this command with its path
robust radish
Ok so not entirely sure how to do this now?
I did look at dladdr but it seems I ...
what do you need to locate? A function or something more specific?
cloud yacht
Yeah this is following a discussion from earlier. I need to find a few functions in a stripped binary (context: #development message).
manic forum
did u manage to fix the bug atleast
yes
wooden yarrow
nice
i've spent 8 hour debugging sessions not being able to fix a bug 
ur better than me
manic forum
MRW I spend 4 hours trying to debug code and the issue was a missing semicolon
i wrote
new_offset = offset
instead of
new_offset = offset + size
robust radish
Yeah this is following a discussion from earlier. I need to find a few functions...
Are the function’s owner image a dylib or mh_execute?
manic forum
i wrote
`new_offset = offset`
instead of
`new_offset = offset + size`
but now shijima can import nested archives 
(literally no one will use this feature)
cloud yacht
I do not know what mh_execute is but it's in the dylib cache (the function is from an apps main binary)
robust radish
so the functions you’re looking for are contained in the main executable of an application? Do they contain something unique enough to reliably identify them
cloud yacht
Yeah I belive they are unlikely to change (they are public apis from a dependancy's dependancy) and at least a few of them are called with a unique string I should be able to find in the binary
robust radish
Last question: are you injecting code into this process directly, or performing the search remotely from elsewhere?
cloud yacht
I'm being injected
If it helps the main part of the code I'm injecting is open source (though the app I'm targeting is not) and I have an app without stripped binarys to help with testing.
I need to hook 2 functions but theres ~14 functions I need just a reference to to call
orchid fulcrum
Uneducated opinion; it sounds like what you want is indeed dyld get image header, and the size for memmem should be the size of the executable (can check it with filza/finder)
robust radish
If it helps the main part of the code I'm injecting is open source (though the a...
You need the addresses of the strings that can be used to identify the target functions. You can get them by parsing the strings table from the mach header or by doing a blind search starting around the load address of the main executable (the address of the mach header). The most straightforward API for fetching the mach header of the process main executable is _dyld_get_prog_image_header()
To find cross-references to those strings (their usage in the target functions), you can again do a blind search across the address range of the main executable for the literal address of the string, or more efficient, you can parse the LC_FUNCTION_STARTS load command from the main execs mach header. That will give you a list of addresses of every function in the binary, regardless of whether or not it has a symbol name / stripped. That reduces the scope of the search area. If you can roughly gauge (in a disassembler) the distance between the string reference relative to the start of its containing function, that's another way to further reduce search scope (bail out on functions early, don't look at the entire thing)
If you do a blind search, you need to know the end address of the image, so that you know when to stop looking. You can determine that by enumerating segments in the header. The range starts at the address of the mach header, and ends at vmaddress + vmsize of the last-encountered LC_SEGMENT/LC_SEGMENT_64 segment
cloud yacht
Thank you I'll take a look
robust radish
ih8sn0w's old iboot patcher has some straightforward examples of locating stuff using only string xrefs (its armv7 but still a decent reference point): https://github.com/iH8sn0w/iBoot32Patcher/blob/master/finders.c#L109-L130
ocean raptor
If it helps the main part of the code I'm injecting is open source (though the a...
What I ended up doing was for a few of the functions, lua_call, lua_pcall and one other I don’t remember, I used just a memmem() for the first few instructions of the functions since they were unique.
For getfield, setfield, settop and a couple others, I did a memmem() for "LUA_NOENV" string then used siguza’s xref() to find the xref and disassembly that function with capstone to grab the like 4 b instructions to those functions, then I did the same with a couple other strings for the rest of the functions
cloud yacht
ok I don't understand how the reference to a string in the binary is formatted
ocean raptor
ok I don't understand how the reference to a string in the binary is formatted
0x100000000 + (memmem(whatever) - topofmacho)
cloud yacht
whatever being my string?
ocean raptor
Whatever being the arguments that memmem() needs to find your string
cloud yacht
okay
ocean raptor
`0x100000000 + (memmem(whatever) - topofmacho)`
This is when doing it on a file, I’m actually unsure if half of this stuff is needed when working on loaded binaries, I was gonna figure that part out tonight
cloud yacht
hmmm I must missunderstand somethng
#import <UIKit/UIKit.h>
#import <mach-o/dyld.h>
#include <CydiaSubstrate/CydiaSubstrate.h>
%ctor {
NSLog(@"[Lovely] Hi Mom");
int image_index = -1;
for(int i = 0; i < _dyld_image_count(); i++) {
NSLog(@"[Lovely] %s", _dyld_get_image_name(i));
if (strstr(_dyld_get_image_name(i), ".app/")) {
image_index = i;
break;
}
}
if(image_index < 0) {
NSLog(@"[Lovely] Failed to find image: (Balatro.app/balatro)!");
return;
}
const struct mach_header* header = _dyld_get_image_header(image_index);
MSImageRef image = MSGetImageByName(_dyld_get_image_name(image_index));
void* symbol_substrate = MSFindSymbol(image, "_luaL_loadbuffer");
NSLog(@"[Lovely] Symbol: %p", symbol_substrate);
NSLog(@"[Lovely] Header: %p, Image: %p", header, image);
NSLog(@"[Lovely] size of cmds: %i", header->sizeofcmds);
char needle[] = "=[love \"arg.lua\"]";
int straddr = 0x100000000 + ((char *)memmem((const void *)header, 70000, needle, strlen(needle)) - (char *)header);
NSLog(@"[Lovely] straddr: %i", straddr);
}
``` this is resulting in a negative value (which woudl be not found, right)Why aren’t you using the file size from the header for the memmem() lol
cloud yacht
good point
Still doesn't seem to work
#import <UIKit/UIKit.h>
#import <mach-o/dyld.h>
#include <CydiaSubstrate/CydiaSubstrate.h>
%ctor {
NSLog(@"[Lovely] Hi Mom");
int image_index = -1;
for(int i = 0; i < _dyld_image_count(); i++) {
NSLog(@"[Lovely] %s", _dyld_get_image_name(i));
if (strstr(_dyld_get_image_name(i), ".app/")) {
image_index = i;
break;
}
}
if(image_index < 0) {
NSLog(@"[Lovely] Failed to find image: (Balatro.app/balatro)!");
return;
}
const struct mach_header* header = _dyld_get_image_header(image_index);
MSImageRef image = MSGetImageByName(_dyld_get_image_name(image_index));
void* symbol_substrate = MSFindSymbol(image, "_luaL_loadbuffer");
NSLog(@"[Lovely] Symbol: %p", symbol_substrate);
NSLog(@"[Lovely] Header: %p, Image: %p", header, image);
NSLog(@"[Lovely] size of cmds: %i", header->sizeofcmds);
char needle[] = "=[love \"arg.lua\"]";
char * ptr = (char *)memmem((const void *)header, header->sizeofcmds, needle, strlen(needle));
int straddr = 0x100000000 + (ptr - (char *)header);
NSLog(@"[Lovely] pointer: %p, straddr: %i", ptr, straddr);
}
<Notice> 15:31:28 love[1454]: [Lovely] /usr/lib/systemhook.dylib
<Notice> 15:31:28 love[1454]: [Lovely] /private/var/containers/Bundle/Application/3EBCAC08-0F59-42EB-8474-A6C19E6176F0/love.app/love
<Notice> 15:31:28 love[1454]: [Lovely] Symbol: 0x1006ba968
<Notice> 15:31:28 love[1454]: [Lovely] Header: 0x1003d0000, Image: 0x1003d0000
<Notice> 15:31:28 love[1454]: [Lovely] size of cmds: 4496
<Notice> 15:31:28 love[1454]: [Lovely] pointer: 0x0, straddr: -3997696
Idk, is memmem returning anything?
Ditch the pointer to vmaddr math thing and only log the memmem pointer
cloud yacht
yeah it's the ptr value whcih is returnign 0x0
cloud yacht
yeah but what am I doing wrong?
ocean raptor
First of all sizeofcmds is not the right field lol
I’m not at my computer right now
When I get home in like 30 min I’m gonna be adapting my symbolfinder to run on device and I’ll send it to you
cloud yacht
idk which value I would use
robust radish
I can make an example that’s more directly applicable
ocean raptor
I can make an example that’s more directly applicable
I’m doing the exact same thing as him, so as soon as I finish it I’ll just send it all to him lol
robust radish
I’m doing the exact same thing as him, so as soon as I finish it I’ll just send ...
send it to me too
ocean raptor
https://gist.github.com/EthanArbuckle/6b3ce401dd1f98caadb29f0580a419df
Will this be able to find an xref that’s an adrp followed by an add?
placid kraken
@wooden yarrow you might like this lol https://github.com/acquitelol/ichigo
wooden yarrow
<@353736669138255874> you might like this lol https://github.com/acquitelol/ichi...
oh god so cursed
(so good)
placid kraken
look at main.igo 😭
imagine the horrors
imagine needing to write the characters seisuu on your keyboard for an int
wooden yarrow
oh it uses the full width characters
might as well make use of the english full width ones too
placid kraken
yeah easier to type with an ime
robust radish
Will this be able to find an xref that’s an adrp followed by an add?
yea
wooden yarrow
@placid kraken how
ellec /usr/local/include/elle/std/runtime/index.le -o libelle.o -c -nogc -nosm -nofmt -nostd
thread 'main' panicked at src/misc/build.rs:25:10:
Failed to execute QBE.: Os { code: 2, kind: NotFound, message: "No such file or directory" }
note: run with `RUST_BACKTRACE=1` environment variable to display a backtrace
make: *** [install-runtime] Error 101
$ ./いちご trol.igo
(identifier, 関数)
(identifier, メイン)
(punctuation, （)
(punctuation, ）)
(punctuation, 『)
(identifier, プリント)
(punctuation, （)
(string, これ結構英語で言う『カースド』やな)
(punctuation, ）)
(punctuation, 。)
(punctuation, 』)
incredible
placid kraken
😭😭😭😭😭
robust radish
What’s the licenses on this, cause I’m going to steal it 😂
available without restriction. not my problem if it has bugs
placid kraken
soon it’ll be able to actually compile things
wooden yarrow
you know what ill make this even funnier by making all the debug prints jp too
@placid kraken this may be your first external bug report but uh
placid kraken
unicode is something i definitely did not have in mind when i wrote that function lmao i’ll need to rewrite it completely at some point
although that throwing an error is strange
wooden yarrow
unicode is something i definitely did not have in mind when i wrote that functio...
「苺」がエレの開発を助けとるみたいやな：３
wait actually is it エリー or エレ
probably more like エレ actually
placid kraken
「苺」がエレの開発を助けとるみたいやな：３
うん、少し：３
pallid totem
what the fuck did i click upon on
wooden yarrow
what the fuck did i click upon on
ごめんな、今の所＃開発は日本語喋るチャンネルになっとるねん
placid kraken
これは学校のプロジェクトで、先生は日本語を知らないんだ 🎀🎀
wooden yarrow
これは学校のプロジェクトで、先生は日本語を知らないんだ 🎀🎀
え
placid kraken
ごめんな、今の所＃開発は日本語喋るチャンネルになっとるねん
うん＾＾＾
pallid totem
ごめんな、今の所＃開発は日本語喋るチャンネルになっとるねん
Translate in english plz
placid kraken
Translate in english plz
wooden yarrow
Translate in english plz
nee bc こないして说是 muy divertido
pallid totem
thanks
placid kraken
LMAO @wooden yarrow it interpreted え as 絵
wooden yarrow
LMAO <@353736669138255874> it interpreted え as 絵
「え」ってどない言う意味か知っとるん？
placid kraken
「え」ってどない言う意味か知っとるん？
いいえ、どうやら違う 😭
wooden yarrow
いいえ、どうやら違う 😭
「え」って言ったら「どない言う意味や」って聞いとるって意味やねん
wooden yarrow
まあ、わかってるけど、Google 翻訳はわかってないね
まあそりゃグッグル翻訳使っとったら今喋っとる関西弁の癖と喋り方も全部消えてまう
placid kraken
まあそりゃグッグル翻訳使っとったら今喋っとる関西弁の癖と喋り方も全部消えてまう
うん、全部フォーマルだよ
placid kraken
うん
pallid totem
help
placid kraken
最初っから英語はこんなに喋り方とか癖とかないからかもしれんけど
まあ、仕方ないね。まだ勉強中だし、へへ
pallid totem
that is indeed a plausable translation of the message you're replying to, yes
ohhhh
"なんや" is a dialectal expression from the Kansai region of Japan, particularly associated with the Osaka area. It's an informal way of saying "what" or "what's this?" It can convey curiosity or surprise. In standard Japanese, you might see it as "何ですか" (nandesuka).
placid kraken
あ
pallid totem
こっちはグッグル翻訳の話しとったんやけど、まあ
The phrase "こっちはグッグル翻訳の話しとったんやけど、まあ" translates roughly to "I was talking about Google Translate, but oh well."
- "こっちは" (kocchi wa) means "about this" or "we."
- "グッグル翻訳" (Guguru hon'yaku) means "Google Translate."
- "の話しとった" (no hanashitotta) means "was talking about."
- "んやけど" (n'yakedo) is a dialectal way of saying "but."
- "まあ" (maa) is often used to express resignation or indifference, similar to "well."
Overall, it reflects a casual, conversational tone, likely indicating a shift in focus or acceptance of the conversation's direction.
i love ai slop
placid kraken
i mean it’s right
pallid totem
i mean it’s right
but?
ocean raptor
available without restriction. not my problem if it has bugs
thanks bro I attached my original code for working on file that I'm in the process of adapting to work in process now I just modified siguza's xref but yours is so much simpler
lol
wooden yarrow
The phrase "こっちはグッグル翻訳の話しとったんやけど、まあ" translates roughly to "I was talking about ...
確かにチャットジーピーティみたいなん使っとったら日本語の方言の癖と喋り方を掴みやすいかもな
pallid totem
確かにチャットジーピーティみたいなん使っとったら日本語の方言の癖と喋り方を掴みやすいかもな
The sentence "確かにチャットジーピーティみたいなん使っとったら日本語の方言の癖と喋り方を掴みやすいかもな" translates to:
"Indeed, if you use something like ChatGPT, it might be easier to grasp the quirks and speaking style of Japanese dialects."
- "確かに" (tashika ni) means "indeed" or "certainly."
- "チャットジーピーティ" (ChatGPT) refers to ChatGPT.
- "みたいなん" (mitai nan) means "like" or "something like."
- "使っとったら" (tsukattottara) means "if you were using."
- "日本語の方言の癖" (Nihongo no hōgen no kuse) means "quirks of Japanese dialects."
- "と喋り方" (to shaberikata) means "and speaking style."
- "を掴みやすいかもな" (o tsukami yasui kamo na) means "might be easier to grasp."
Overall, it's expressing the idea that using a language model like ChatGPT can help users better understand Japanese dialects.
wooden yarrow
The sentence "確かにチャットジーピーティみたいなん使っとったら日本語の方言の癖と喋り方を掴みやすいかもな" translates to:
"In...
you dont have to keep posting its outputs here
pallid totem
you dont have to keep posting its outputs here
Ok!
placid kraken
確かにチャットジーピーティみたいなん使っとったら日本語の方言の癖と喋り方を掴みやすいかもな
うん、そうだね。なんか、翻訳が上手だね
wooden yarrow
うん、そうだね。なんか、翻訳が上手だね
誰が？チャットジーピーティのこと？
placid kraken
うん
wooden yarrow
まあそりゃLLMやからな
placid kraken
驚いたです
pallid totem
まあそりゃLLMやからな
llm? where
placid kraken
まあそりゃLLMやからな
そうだね
rocky oriole
no
placid kraken
ああ、もう1時だね。おやすみ🎀
placid kraken
i assume this means yes <:trolley:1159468147133395025>
it’s an informal way to say yes, it’s more like “yeah” in english
pallid totem
it’s an informal way to say yes, it’s more like “yeah” in english
oh
nice
im gonna go sleep
gn
placid kraken
(should probably be 驚きました but .)
oop true actually good point
wooden yarrow
ああ、もう1時だね。おやすみ🎀
ほんまこっちも2時や、おやすみ〜
placid kraken
じゃね (⌒▽⌒)
wooden yarrow
@tacit spade i am curious to know if you can understand the backlog of this convo
wooden yarrow
in where
wooden yarrow
いいえ、どうやら違う 😭
also i kinda got confused by like the mix of formal and casual lang mixed in here .
wooden yarrow
これは学校のプロジェクトで、先生は日本語を知らないんだ 🎀🎀
also i didnt realize what this said until the google tl output .
placid kraken
also i kinda got confused by like the mix of formal and casual lang mixed in her...
yeah i do that sometimes 😭 my notion of formality is all over the place
wooden yarrow
trold
placid kraken
also i didnt realize what this said until the google tl output .
did i write it incorrectly..?
placid kraken
(strawberry aka this) is a school project and my teacher doesnt understand japanese
although i put sore
silly
wooden yarrow
ohh so prob more like 「これは学校のプロジェクトなんだけど先生は日本語を知らないんだ 🎀🎀」
(sorry i cant speak in hyoujungo v well so i just kansai ben)
placid kraken
yeah that would work too
wooden yarrow
god i literally cant think of what "なんやけど" would be in hyoujungo
i can raise it to the formal 「なんですけど」but wtf is the casual form in hyoujungo
ohhh right chatgpt told me it would be「なんだけど」
elder scaffold
placid kraken
なんだけど is what i was thinking but i wasn’t completely sure
wooden yarrow
<:yuruyuri_keikakudoori:1137473323509497888>
ずっと関西弁喋っとったらごっつい標準語喋るの難しいw
placid kraken
because iirc there’s a pattern where you replace da or desu with ya in kansai ben
right
elder scaffold
ずっと関西弁喋っとったらごっつい標準語喋るの難しいw
草
wooden yarrow
because iirc there’s a pattern where you replace da or desu with ya in kansai be...
me when no theory knowledge
placid kraken
me when no theory knowledge
🎀
wooden yarrow
anyways gn
elder scaffold
I am convinced that the most incomprehensible dialect in Japan is Tsugaru dialect (I don't even think it's Japanese anymore)
gn
wooden yarrow
true
ocean raptor
@cloud yacht @robust radish here's your symbol finder wilson it grabs all the symbols that lovely-injector is actually using
have fun hooking that up (or better yet, converting it to rust lol)
you'll need capstone for it, but you can actually use the static library from https://apt.procurs.us/pool/main/iphoneos-arm64-rootless/1800/capstone/libcapstone-dev_5.0\~git20230223.6e6e602_iphoneos-arm64.deb and you'll be good on all platforms
ocean raptor
mister objc giving me that xref() saved me a ton of time
I didn't have to fixup siguza's to work on mapped binaries
ocean raptor
Thank you I will look into it
lmk how it goes
cloud yacht
will do
my mac has procursus on it so will jsut installing libcapstone-dev on it be enough or do I need to pull in the ios builds?
ocean raptor
my mac has procursus on it so will jsut installing libcapstone-dev on it be enou...
You need iOS build
ocean raptor
And yes, that static library will work fine on both rootful and rootless
Just put the libcapstone.a into your theos lib and the capstone folder into theos include
This deb has it at include/include/capstone for some reason though lol
cloud yacht
yeah I noticed that on the mac one
ocean raptor
Don’t do the extra include, that’s a bug
cloud yacht
not sure how I should build this for iOS
tried clang -I./lib/include -L./lib/lib -lcapstone patchfinder.c -target arm64-apple but it couldn't find mach-o/dyld.h
ocean raptor
tried `clang -I./lib/include -L./lib/lib -lcapstone patchfinder.c -target arm64-...
that should be in your SDK
If it’s not in your SDK, it should be in your theos headers
This code should be compiled into a dylib and injected into Balatro btw
You can just do it with theos even
I have an idea, to get this to work in lovely injector you should make a version of the libloading crate that is specifically for grabbing these symbols that is api compatible and just gets swapped in when you compile for iOS
cloud yacht
I got it to compile and hooked up to rust but it can't find the symbols (also it is warning me about ios version differences)
cloud yacht
me too
tacit spade
<@165821635750789120> i am curious to know if you can understand the backlog of ...
where the hell do I begin
cloud yacht
since i need to recompile this from scratch I got time, is there a way to pass args to an iOS app (argv, enviroment variables, etc)
harsh junco
tried `clang -I./lib/include -L./lib/lib -lcapstone patchfinder.c -target arm64-...
Wrong target + no --sysroot
its arm64-apple-ios(ver)
arm64-apple-ios13.0
cloud yacht
I ended up just giving it to the rust cc crate which I belive is handling the target correctly (probably)
harsh junco
I got it to compile and hooked up to rust but it can't find the symbols (also it...
Also why ios 10
harsh junco
Isn’t apple arcade 13+
cloud yacht
I'm not sure how it's even choosing it's target ios version
harsh junco
That’s minimum ios ver rust supports
cloud yacht
I was experimenting with stuff and was wondering if rust wasn't liking that it was a pointer to a function so I tried making a function to just return the value and calling that and now I'm getting
cloud yacht
I was experimenting with stuff and was wondering if rust wasn't liking that it w...
this would be capstone isn't targeting correctly?
cloud yacht
x64_86-darwin
yeah I had to build rust from source for arm64e so thats a toolchain for compiling on x64_86-darwin machines
cloud yacht
this would be capstone isn't targeting correctly?
do I need to link to capstone when building the patchfinder or building my main library?
cloud yacht
Try setting `IPHONEOS_DEPLOYMENT_TARGET=13.0`
That changes it but still complains
setting it to 16.4 doesn't complain
idk why it wants that verision in particualr
cloud yacht
do I need to link to capstone when building the patchfinder or building my main ...
building the main library
it compiled for arm64 but arm64e isn't working now
looks like capstone doesn't have an arm64e slice
wooden yarrow
where the hell do I begin
naive kraken
it compiled for arm64 but arm64e isn't working now
I don't know what exactly you're trying to do here but if it helps: There is absolutely no reason to build for arm64e unless it's a dylib that you want to be able to inject into system processes
trail nimbus
i have a phone with trollstore 17.0. Would i be to directly plant a file into an apps data from my computer with like a py script or something? Or would i need to elevate some stuff with trollstore before i could do that? If it helps i already have filza installed not sure tough if that has some kind of api or something
ocean raptor
update <@897323786691563521>
Put some logs in the symbol finder and lmk if every symbol is actually found
placid kraken
https://discord.com/channels/349243932447604736/688124600269144162/1331422020369...
ok i have to ask
are my sentences coherent
i talk with people in jp pretty often but i usually do a lot more reading and don’t say very much
wooden yarrow
by coherent do you mean understandable or
placid kraken
like grammatically correct (for the most part)
wooden yarrow
yes
placid kraken
good
placid kraken
@wooden yarrow i was having this conversation a few days ago
what is the most common usage for “everything”
－ 全て
－ すべて
－ 全部
wooden yarrow
全て is the same thing as すべて
placid kraken
well yeah obviously it’s the same pronunciation lol
wooden yarrow
although in recent writing i think 全て is equivalent in formality to すべて
wooden yarrow
i think you use 全て/すべて and 全部 in different contexts actually
placid kraken
ah
wooden yarrow
or well you're more likely to use one over the other
placid kraken
well yeah surely because formality right
zenbu is casual and subete is more formal
wooden yarrow
全て消す instead of like 全部消す for example although the latter does still work
placid kraken
or is there another context when you would use one over the other
placid kraken
全て消す instead of like 全部消す for example although the latter does still work
hmmm
wooden yarrow
in literal terms 全て is "all" while 全部 is from "all parts"
placid kraken
i see
lusty jacinth
ocean raptor
update <@897323786691563521>
I guess I should ask, where is it crashing? Is it crashing when hooking? When running the hook? When running orig? When symbolfinding?
robust radish
ocean raptor
That looks like some mod is loading nativefs.lua which needs to be fixed to support macOS/ios
Orrrr
I guess we need to get the symbolfinder to find PHYSFS_getMountPoint
Idea: get the symbolfinder to locate PHYSFS_getMountPoint then MSHookFunction dlsym to return it if it’s searching for the symbol
cloud yacht
I guess I should ask, where is it crashing? Is it crashing when hooking? When ru...
It was crashing while symbol finding. I was going to do some debugging but it was late so I was going to bed right away.
cloud yacht
Idea: get the symbolfinder to locate PHYSFS_getMountPoint then MSHookFunction dl...
I wonder if just exporting the symbol from the symbol finder/rustland would be enough to find it
Also I guess I could have sent this other video I made with debug mod working https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1324835018299670558/1331548962636824596/RPReplay_Final1737536386.mov
cloud yacht
I tried adding logging, thought it doesn't seem that it worked. However I can see the print I had in the assembly view so hopefully this should help
For some reason its not making a log but I can get one from last night
ocean raptor
It was crashing while symbol finding. I was going to do some debugging but it wa...
Importantly: t’s crashing when a mod is trying to dlsym a symbol provided by love, not when my symbolfinder is running
The solution is to update my symbolfinder to support finding whatever symbols the nativefs lua module is trying to ffi
Then hook dlsym to return that function when passed the name of it
cloud yacht
I might also be able to patch the mod to not need that native function
ocean raptor
My solution seems better but whatever 🤷♂️
ocean raptor
No, I found it
cloud yacht
though I get a real crash wne opening a non-balatro love
ocean raptor
It’s the nativefs module’s ffi
cloud yacht
ocean raptor
Where’s the crash log bro?
cloud yacht
for these there are symbols so I can probably do some heuristics on them to switch to MSFindSymbol
but idk if some other love app will come to popularity and not have symbols
ocean raptor
https://discord.com/channels/349243932447604736/688124600269144162/1331697443179...
probably because of the functions that I did searches for specific bytes
ocean raptor
I already have it
cloud yacht
oh okay good
ocean raptor
probably because of the functions that I did searches for specific bytes
Just ditch these searches and get real symbol finding like I did for the other functions
cloud yacht
fair enough
ocean raptor
Also, please update my code to close the capstone handle lol
ocean raptor
I saw that yeah
Please make it just bail out if symbol finding doesn’t work instead of crashing btw
cloud yacht
I suspsect it might be memmem going to far and getting killed
cloud yacht
I don't know what exactly you're trying to do here but if it helps: There is abs...
also does this mean I can just use an arm64 build and I didn't need to comple rust from source for arm64e?
ocean raptor
also does this mean I can just use an arm64 build and I didn't need to comple ru...
Yes
App Store apps are never arm64e
ocean raptor
Cause the memmem only scans the __TEXT.__text section
cloud yacht
so where is it crashing?
ocean raptor
Attach lldb to it
cloud yacht
I do but theres no symbols
ocean raptor
2025-01-22 04:32:12.6370 -0700 default 0x428f0 0x0 Balatro[3044] (LovelyPatchfinderPOC.dylib): [Lovely] pointer: 0x0, straddr: -1900544
This is probably part of it
lol
cloud yacht
wait where is this from?
ocean raptor
I do but theres no symbols
Who cares about symbols, show me the instruction it’s crashing on and the context around it
ocean raptor
wait where is this from?
The very bottom of the crash log you sent me
cloud yacht
oh that was another thing I was working on (but failing)
I should remove that
More context
I thought the printf was supposed to go to xcode but I don't see where it would be
ocean raptor
Does whatever binary you’re trying to hook have the code point string?
cloud yacht
Yeah seems like it
ocean raptor
Wait it’s crashing Balatro?
cloud yacht
fake balatro
ocean raptor
Idk
cloud yacht
From this tool https://github.com/blake502/balatro-mobile-maker
is there a quick way to see if a binary still has symbols?
ocean raptor
I sent my symbol finder but that runs on macho files yesterday
Find that and get it to compile and you can run it on your Mac
cloud yacht
whar?
ocean raptor
thanks bro I attached my original code for working on file that I'm in the proce...
@cloud yacht
Compile that a run ./a.out Balatro and it’ll try to find all the symbols
ocean raptor
real or fake balatro
Either
ocean raptor
do you have the macho.h
Replace that with mach-o/dyld.h
cloud yacht
first is fake second is real
cloud yacht
I thought I did
ocean raptor
That doesnt look like it got decrypted
cloud yacht
oh wait I might've only put the decrypted one on my pc not the mac
wait I might've mixed up my binarys
okay here is the non-balatro for sure one
cloud yacht
So why is it crashing on the in memory version?
cloud yacht
true
ocean raptor
attach lldb to the app and step through
cloud yacht
I'm not sure how to get it to have the proper debugging info to let me do that
probably I just don't have the nessicary debugger knowledge to do this
ocean raptor
Don’t strip your binary
cloud yacht
I tried doing debug build and it didn't work but I just realized that puts my deb in a different place so I installed the wrong deb
oh I also just broke my deb script for debug builds
There we go
thats for the codepointstr_xref
Oh yeah this may be useful
seems odd that has bad access
hmm on love it crashes on the lua_noenv_xref
cloud yacht
yeah frankly idk whats going wrong and for some reason I can't debug normal balatro to see whats different
icy escarp
uhhh does anyone know how to prevent injected dylibs from appearing in the list of NSBundles, and/or how to use dopamine's .fakelib to disguise the origin of these
ocean raptor
Oh yeah this may be useful
I FIGURED IT OUT
Ugh this is so stupid
Look at the very top of the constructor
Where it finds the image index
cloud yacht
It's not that
the fake balatro app has the same name and I modifed it to find the love one
although it seems like if it fails to find it will keep running which it shouldn't
also I verifed in the debugger it had the right image name
ocean raptor
Ok well I’m going to update that xref function to only scan __TEXT.__text and we’ll see if that fixes it
Or actually you can do that
ocean raptor
isn't that already what it does?
No, it does the entire macho
cloud yacht
so would i just want to change end to seg->vmsize?
ocean raptor
No
cloud yacht
I don't get how this end pointer works
ocean raptor
We’re gonna rework this entire logic for getting it
cloud yacht
right
seg has vmaddr
so can current not be vmaddr and then end be vmaddr + vmsize?
that didn't fix it but it also didn't break it
ocean raptor
so can current not be vmaddr and then end be vmaddr + vmsize?
Well have to and the slide to vmaddr I think
cloud yacht
oh is the slide it's spot in memory rn?
ocean raptor
uint64_t xref(const void *text_sec, size_t text_sec_sz, uint64_t string_addr) {
uint32_t *current = (uint32_t *)text_sec;
uint32_t *end = (uint32_t *)((uintptr_t)text_sec + text_sec_sz);
Try with that
You’ll have to update the forward declaration and all the calls to xref() to pass in the text_sec and text_sec_sz vars instead of mh and text_segment
cloud yacht
new crash
looks like this is caused by codepointstring_xref being 0
but now xref isn't erroring
ocean raptor
Ugh, what is the value of codepointstring_xref?
cloud yacht
0
cloud yacht
Also potential new issue
cloud yacht
ocean raptor
In hex pls lol
cloud yacht
104E4D9A7
cloud yacht
Also potential new issue
I'll have to check where this is used to see if this is happening on the real balatro
ocean raptor
I'll have to check where this is used to see if this is happening on the real ba...
On a real Balatro, I think it should only find lua_tolstring or luaL_checklstring
cloud yacht
it seems ot be functioning proper on real balatro so I'll assumue it correctly found the function
cloud yacht
It isn't pretty but I got it to work
ocean raptor
It isn't pretty but I got it to work
What’d you do?
cloud yacht
I checked if any of the xrefs were null and if so returned early and set a flag there was an error. Then in rust code if there was an error fallback to using MSFindSymbol
since the other two have symbols this works
cloud yacht
yeah
acoustic imp
cloud yacht
so if I'm only building for aarch64 do I need to worry about old and new abi?
native orbit
no
faint timber
nah they only changed the auth/got abi
cloud yacht
also can I use the same build for rootless and rootful if I just set my rpath to include the rootful paths?
ocean raptor
also can I use the same build for rootless and rootful if I just set my rpath to...
Same dylib, not same deb
cloud yacht
Oh nice that would simplify my build process
orchid fulcrum
hooking a specific instance
hasty ruin
object_setClass?
Oh
The code is there 
Okay yeah
Had to do that in Rune to fix a tweak conflict
kind herald
What about a keyboard conflict
hasty ruin
nope
hasty ruin
Both
acoustic imp
did i just notice that objc uses YES and NO as booleans
1/0 >>
acoustic imp
(night bullied me into not using them smh)
hasty ruin
good job @radiant idol
pallid totem
😭
radiant idol
icraze's original statement was right
hasty ruin
pallid totem
icraze's original statement was right
acoustic imp
kind herald
radiant idol
@modulators
acoustic imp
self report
pallid totem
what if instead of icraze we just had craze
kind herald
Proton Mail Bridge
pallid totem
what the fuck am i saying
fiery dragon
https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-krill-world-krill-lobster-lobster-fried-krill-fri...
@modturators
acoustic imp
what the fuck am i saying
reels
hasty ruin
what if instead of icraze we just had craze
What if 16player had good code
Hard to even imagine.
pallid totem
What if 16player had good code
pallid totem
Hard to even imagine.
honestly real
🤔
16player may just be the definition of “if it works it works”
kind herald
@shut stag Can you check audit logs and see who's deleting my messages and shit 👍
acoustic imp
i plead the 5th
hasty ruin
pallid totem
that's horrifying
its the definition of “if it works dont touch it”
?
mods
snipe
now
@lofty juniper
fiery dragon
I saw that
faint lionBOT
MuffinStore.app deleted a message
acoustic imp
?
fiery dragon
farther back
radiant idol
its the definition of “if it works dont touch it”
what if it's like 16player and doesnt work
pallid totem
Fuck.
pallid totem
what if it's like 16player and doesnt work
so the cow falls
pallid totem
maybe don’t say shit like that to minors
it’s fine bro
lofty juniper
i am a minor :/
oh, i’m revoking your manage message perms now as well
acoustic imp
yea exactly why i am
what ❓
lofty juniper
you’re not to delete messages in development.
acoustic imp
:/
kind herald
Based Nooka.
pallid totem
what ❓
everything im not made me everything i am
@hasty ruin
question
is it possible to make a react ios app
i know discord is one
lofty juniper
yes…?
acoustic imp
is it possible to make a react ios app
dont
lofty juniper
it’s just react native
hasty ruin
Making RN apps should get you banned from this channel
pallid totem
it’s just react native
it’s native in the ios framework?
lofty juniper
no
kind herald
Making 16player should get you banned from this channel
lofty juniper
because they do cross platform development?
hasty ruin
Making 16player should get you banned from this channel
🗣️
pallid totem
cross compat between ios and android
thats just
hasty ruin
I think neither of them have delete perms lmao
radiant idol
swift and uikit dont work on android
pallid totem
swift and uikit dont work on android
bro they can hire dedicated teams for android or ios
radiant idol
makes it harder to sync development
theres no purpose for them really
react native does the work just fine, its just us jailbreakers who dont like it
pallid totem
makes it harder to sync development
there’s so many features on ios missing that desktop/android has
pallid totem
they're just lazy
or maybe its just a limitation cuz of react
hasty ruin
react native does the work just fine, its just us jailbreakers who dont like it
Not really a jb thing, it just runs like ass
radiant idol
or maybe its just a limitation cuz of react
no its not? whar
pallid totem
and also isnt react incredibly slow
lofty juniper
or maybe its just a limitation cuz of react
no, android is react native too
acoustic imp
dc is RN...
pallid totem
and also isnt react incredibly slow
a 20mb app should not take 15 seconds to launch
acoustic imp
on all platforms ?
radiant idol
but it doesnt
radiant idol
it takes 2 seconds maybe
pallid totem
identical
pallid totem
it takes 2 seconds maybe
ok lemme close discord really quicn and launch it
and see how long it takes to get to this channel (which discord should automatically do)
acoustic imp
it takes 2 seconds maybe
now enable tweak injection
pallid totem
7 seconds
lofty juniper
broke ass phone
acoustic imp
pallid totem
broke ass phone
A15
lofty juniper
ok a17 pro launches under a second
cloud yacht
I mean when you need to make network requests its not bad.
lofty juniper
buddy.. have you used a meta app
radiant idol
thats because they made react
pallid totem
what
radiant idol
pallid totem
oh
radiant idol
pallid totem
well that probably explains why they actually have good usage and speeds of it
hasty ruin
Instagram is a good app because it’s actually still native
pallid totem
@hasty ruin
do i fix some issues at my code and stay awake all day or get 55 minutes of sleep and do not fix my code
acoustic imp
cloud yacht
cloud yacht
gn
hasty ruin
do i fix some issues at my code and stay awake all day or get 55 minutes of slee...
You gonna wake up tired if you sleep now
rain dune
Dead chat
cloud yacht
placid kraken
i thought that was common knowledge lmfao
ocean raptor
@cloud yacht so is all that’s left is to update the symbolfinder to find the PHYSFS_ symbols?
manic forum
TIL C files must end with a newline
harsh junco
TIL C files must end with a newline
What
wooden yarrow
TIL C files must end with a newline
that's not just for C it's for all text based files
it's in the POSIX standard
all text files must end in a newline because otherwise the last line wont be counted as a line
hollow laurel
all text files must end in a newline because otherwise the last line wont be cou...
Because of the missing newline char?
wooden yarrow
Because of the missing newline char?
yes
timid furnace
no
native orbit
ptr to null terminator \0
placid kraken
that is what i said
native orbit
why are we checking for iOS 11 in 2025 bruh 😭
i legit did yesterday 💀
orchid fulcrum
that is what i said
NULL != Null terminator (probably)
placid kraken
NULL != Null terminator (probably)
null terminator is an i8 that holds the value 0
NULL is usually a macro to 0 in most C compilers
so usually it is identical
just semantic differences maybe
timid furnace
a pointer to null is not the same as a pointer to memory that contains null
placid kraken
can you show an example
doing
char x[1];
*x = 0;
``` is an empty string surely0 == ‘\0’ anyway
timid furnace
// The absence of string
char* a = NULL;
// Empty string
char* b = "";
// idk if your printf has null checks or not
printf("a: %p (%s)\n", a, a);
printf("b: %p (%s)\n", b, b);
printf("b[0]: %d\n", b[0], b[0]);
remember, a string is a pointer to contiguous characters in memory, so a pointer = NULL is not the same as a pointer to memory where the one and only character is 0
absence of string vs empty string
you probably understand by now but
native orbit
swift be like: "contiguous" nah fuck that
timid furnace
cedar stag
rude
placid kraken
```c
// The absence of string
char* a = NULL;
// Empty string
char* b = "";
// ...
yes, a pointer to null is a valid address that points to NULL, 0
i did not say the ptr itself is NULL
i said the ptr points to NULL
placid kraken
remember, a string is a pointer to contiguous characters in memory, so a pointer...
that isn’t what i said lol
read what i said earlier closely
placid kraken
wait wouldn’t that be just a ptr to NULL
“ptr to NULL” not “ptr that is NULL”
or am i going insane
manic forum
an empty string in C is a pointer that points to a zero char
placid kraken
that is equivalent to what i said i think
manic forum
the size of a char is at least 8 bits and platform-defined
placid kraken
well not going by the C abi because NULL can be anything it doesn’t need to be 0 but it tends to be 0
timid furnace
pointer to NULL is interpreted as ptr = NULL, at least to me
the pointer points to address 0
native orbit
the size of a char is at least 8 bits and platform-defined
windows with wchar
manic forum
windows with wchar <:fr:712506651520925698>
but that's wchar
timid furnace
idk its language nuance
placid kraken
the pointer points to address 0
ah i guess that’s another way to interpret it
manic forum
Also wchar is a stupid type it doesn't even work
placid kraken
i see
manic forum
who decided to make wchar 2 bytes come on
native orbit
any MS type is just dumb lol
cedar stag
Microware
placid kraken
usually i think of the ptr itself as the address
native orbit
usually i think of the ptr itself as the address
same, cuz i mean, it is lol
placid kraken
so when i think of a ptr to NULL i think like “ptr, aka some number, that when derefed gives 0”
manic forum
any MS type is just dumb lol
isn't wchar_t a standard type
i think the size of that is also platform defined 
native orbit
placid kraken
who decided to make wchar 2 bytes come on
that is so fucking cursed you can’t even do utf8 with it
what’s the point
native orbit
supports non latin chars
manic forum
that is so fucking cursed you can’t even do utf8 with it
it's perfect if you want to do utf16
timid furnace
me when A APIs vs W APIs (Win32 API users will understand)
manic forum
but at that point just do utf32 go all in with 4 bytes
native orbit
wait until they come out with llchar_t
cedar stag
me when A APIs vs W APIs (Win32 API users will understand)
I’m glad that I did not understand
placid kraken
i love utf8
manic forum
wait until they come out with llchar_t
there's no way they're making 4 billion unicode characters
placid kraken
after writing my own impl it’s so good https://github.com/acquitelol/ichigo/blob/mistress/src/utf8.le
timid furnace
I’m glad that I did not understand
good
manic forum
there's no way they're making 4 billion unicode characters
but they're long past 65536
placid kraken
such a smart way to do that i would’ve literally just had a full i32 for each char
manic forum
the windows api is either w or a right
wide char or ascii
neither fully works for unicode
native orbit
me when A APIs vs W APIs (Win32 API users will understand)
win32 devs try not to use capital letters in everything challenge: impossible
manic forum
i hate text encoding, they should make an operating system that communicates solely through hand gestures
native orbit
ascii just said fuck the 8th bit fr
placid kraken
ascii just said fuck the 8th bit fr
useful if i ever wanna represent a char + bool which is actually a lot more often than you would assume
manic forum
when is that useful
placid kraken
char + tag
manic forum
what would the tag be
native orbit
0 or 1
placid kraken
whatever i need it to be? depends what i’m doing
one time i made the tag whether the char is representing a valid b64 char (which you can turn into a small function but instead of needing to do a big switch case you just mask and shift)
ocean raptor
Insanity
cloud yacht
<@517371142508380170> so is all that’s left is to update the symbolfinder to fin...
Yeah unless we really want to go out of our way to get the symbol finder to work on the other apps (or we find a way around needing it for the natvie module)
robust radish
Yeah unless we really want to go out of our way to get the symbol finder to work...
to get the symbol finder to work on the other apps
yess do it
ocean raptor
> to get the symbol finder to work on the other apps
yess do it
I agree
Replace those stupid searches for the first couple instructions with more reliable methods
That don’t find the wrong function like they do currently
robust radish
I’m working on a patchfinder too and it’s a pain the ass. trying to find offsets for a bunch of struct members
indigo peak
@rocky oriole why tf did you react to this almost a year later 💀
rocky oriole
idk
visual meadow
<@728610526891868201> why tf did you react to this almost a year later 💀
Hey pal
I strongly disagree with the statement you have replied to
Now this one, I agree with
torn oriole
Now this one, I agree with
I can promise the users of this server that I will personally take it down with me if you become owner
native orbit
I can promise the users of this server that I will personally take it down with ...
cooper v2
granite frigate
I can promise the users of this server that I will personally take it down with ...
the march 2020 incident
fiery dragon
Is this for tweak/apple related development or just general programming?
visual meadow
the march 2020 incident
i couldve been there
but i was banned from here in 2018
so i was not here
orchid fulcrum
Is this for tweak/apple related development or just general programming?
usually former
timid furnace
@indigo peak can you link @graceful gate the ellekit sim build
No access to computers atm
graceful gate
Yes I do have that build, it’s on Discord
I’m looking for the fork on GitHub or sth
So that my script can automate installation of injection library
indigo peak
@graceful gate
graceful gate
<@274503188596654080>
What of it?
indigo peak
So that my script can automate installation of injection library
oh wait, I read this as the automate installation of a tweak
whoops
graceful gate
👌
graceful gate
orchid fulcrum
how do i include objc_debug_isa_mask
#import <objc/objc-private.h>
#import <objc/objc-runtime.h>
#import <objc/runtime.h>
these didn't work
edit: just declare it extern
acoustic imp
https://discord.com/channels/349243932447604736/688124600269144162/1322749549009...
It’s pinned btw
thorn ether
do u know why im getting this error:
% Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current
Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed
100 36.2M 100 36.2M 0 0 50.3M 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 50.3M
[INFO] Installing iPhoneSimulator17.2.sdk...
tar: could not chdir to '/sdks'
[ERROR] Failed to install SDK.
korboy@korboys-Mac-Pro ~ %```/opt/theos```doing sudo -E made it work 👍
orchid fulcrum
are there docs for malloc_zone_t somewhere ?
it seems like apple itself don't provide it and i couldn't find any 3rd party ones either
specifically i am looking for thezone->introspect->enumerator()function pointer
robust radish
radar: private apis lacking documentation
cedar stag
Hello purple name
slim bramble
Hello purple name
Whitename discrimination 🗣️ 🔥
cedar stag
Whitename discrimination 🗣️ 🔥
I voted 
for you btw
slim bramble
I voted <:true:1254344337567911999> for you btw
Based
marsh ocean
it'd be great if i had orang name
unique galleon
I would enjoy an orange name ❤️
orchid fulcrum
same frfr
slim bramble
it'd be great if i had orang name
slim bramble
I would enjoy an orange name ❤️
lean ember
Any help building an opensource project for ios