development

[covert basin]

thanks

Yes that’s exactly what I was thinking; I couldn’t find ‘ryantrent’ on discord

[cloud yacht]

I feel like someone made a tweak to do that

can't remeber what it was called though

[covert basin]

Messagesxi? I’ve reached out to the original developer regarding updating/monetary contribution, I think that manual read receipts implementation is very well done

it was recently updated for iOS 16

on a related note: is this even possible via bootstrap without a full jailbreak?

[fading shell]

Maybe

Depends if there are any daemons involved

[covert basin]

Okay

Thanks for your help

[cloud yacht]

I think I found the tweak I was thinking of but I'm not even sure if it was ever released

[covert basin]

Can you give any more details? Dm?

[young meteor]

wen eta

[fading shell]

He didn't say what year

Could be any 16th October

[cloud yacht]

Unfortuantly the eta has been lost. We're working really hard to find it and will get back to you when found

[cloud yacht]

No. I'd have to ask the author if they would be okay sharing but I dooubt it would work on mdoern iOS it's fairly old and aolso I just checked and it might just be mark as unread which isn't what you want

[covert basin]

Okay thanks
Any info is helpful but thanks for your time
If that author/dev is still around and familiar, maybe they would be interested in a commission?

[granite frigate]

nathanlr can inject into daemons

just beg him to add it

[visual meadow]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-gif-22596911

[gentle grove]

is having namespaces defined by filename fine for a video editing scripting language

[placid kraken]

no because when i hear scripting i think 300 lines in 1 file

[gentle grove]

how I'm imagining variable and scoping:
video1.media

source = open("media/2024-10-10_12-34-56.mkv"); // this is public by default
static funny_soundbite = source[00:05:23..+00:00:10]; // this is a private variable
first_ten_mins = source[..00![10](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/955450342538088498.webp?size=128 "10")00];

hook_and_intro = funny_soundbite + first_ten_mins;

project.media (entrypoint)

use video1;
use video2; //not shown but for illustration

funny_video_seq = video1::hook_and_intro + video2::interview1 + video2::interview2;

export("out/final.mkv", funny_video_seq, todo!("how to configure output format and codec settings"));

this is my initial concept

hmm I wonder if the export settings should be in the file or in the CLI command

the todo!() is not supposed to be syntax I just didn't know how else to say that

How crazy am I for yearning to edit videos by writing code like this

[placid kraken]

looks decent i guess

[gentle grove]

I will be remaking that concept entirely

instead of variables they are labels

well nothing is variables

instead of bindings they are labels

[wind ravine]

after updating xcode im getting a theos linker error
ld: warning: object file (lib/libminimuxer-ios.a[72](1ddd1489cc625d97-zstd_compress_superblock.o)) was built for newer 'iOS' version (17.4) than being linked (16.4)

[gentle grove]

@grave sparrow https://x.com/MR920enjoyer/status/1846662901253152778?t=nGyNGYsDUSPhngJtTqIkPA&s=19

Tyler (@MR920enjoyer) on X

Hey newly enlisted 18 year old, that 25-30k C6 Z06 might actually fix your life

Twitter · Oct 16, 2024, 9:21 PM

[wind ravine]

nvm this is whats causing it to fail to compile

[cloud yacht]

Anyone know how difficult it is to inject a dylib into a apple arcade app on mac?

[wooden yarrow]

wait yoooo @gentle grove finally

real raw ptrs

all the rest of the changelogs https://blog.rust-lang.org/2024/10/17/Rust-1.82.0.html

[visual meadow]

Would macos dyld work on ios with enough patches

Lol

Rn im running ios 16.7 dyld on ios 16.4.1

[cloud yacht]

I mean I was able to compile a dylib mean for macos on ios with a couple changes

[gentle grove]

I mean theres no difference

its just sugar

[placid kraken]

how do you make safe raw pointers

[cloud yacht]

wrap it in unsafe and then put that in a function and say the function is safe

[wooden yarrow]

you can make them safely, you just can't deref them safely

[placid kraken]

pov any wrapper to a C library:

[wooden yarrow]

it would be fun i think to be able to prove that a C function will not cause crashes for all inputs i ∈ 𝕸(∀)

like Dafny

[fading shell]

Prove that a function will or will not halt

[wooden yarrow]

im going to pass the function into itself

[fading shell]

?

[wooden yarrow]

(that is how turing proved that there can be no turing machine such that it can compute whether or not a certain machine will halt given an input)

[fading shell]

Oh I didn't know that lol

[wooden yarrow]

wtf how

[fading shell]

I only knew that it wasn't possible to have a general solution

[wooden yarrow]

well yeah, given a subset of functions, with a given input i would assume it's possible to compute whether it halts or not

[fading shell]

Yeah you can tell for some individual functions

[wooden yarrow]

but that's like saying a subset of HTML websites can be parsed with regex

💀

[fading shell]

But not a general algorithm

[wooden yarrow]

Dafny, the programming language, actually requires you to prove that a loop will stop for all possible inputs given to it through the use of a decreases keyword

so

(and that decreases condition will help determine whether a condition will hold forever or not)

but for an arbitrary machine, it will be impossible

[fading shell]

Oh interesting

But while true loops aren't possible with that are they

Or can you bypass that requirement

[cloud yacht]

Yeah the idea is you have a function that can tell you whether a given function will halt or not. If it will halt, this function doesn't half and if it won't halt then it will halt. Then by passing it into itself, its a contraditction

[wooden yarrow]

i mean yeah while true loops, given no break conditions, will not halt by definition

[wooden yarrow]

https://langdev.stackexchange.com/a/2510 interesting answer to halting problem

[fading shell]

Oh wait I did know that

I thought he meant something different

[fading shell]

There's nothing inherently wrong with infinite loops

As long as that's your intended behaviour

[wooden yarrow]

in Dafny specifically, programs need to terminate

thus, loops also need to terminate

otherwise they are not correct in the model Dafny specifies

although this can be problematic when dealing with external things such as IO

then don't ask

if you ask there can exist a situation in which you will receive an answer

[gentle grove]

This is a good reminder that functional programming doesn't exist because computation is a side effect and all functions compute

no loop is infinite

well unless you have a bug

there's always some condition to exit

well I guess from the perspective of inside the computer they can exist

[gentle grove]

the real question is wtf are they allocating for on a missile instead of statically allocating it

malloc is fallible

[wooden yarrow]

i guess if it fails the missile falls down prematurely

probably using dynamic to store things like coordinates or something

although, they could have just used a big static array for that

[gentle grove]

yeah that's what I'm thinkibg

[visual meadow]

anyone here know the modern way to make dyld prefer libraries on the filesystem instead of shared cache

[faint timber]

just look how the override used to work

well its still used on protos anyway

[visual meadow]

elrl

well

have you successfully compiled dyld lol

[placid kraken]

i love macos stickies.app

i can just open this and leave it open for tomorrow

[north anvil]

Does messing around in /var/mobile lead to a bootloop (w/ sparserestore)?

I once did on 15.6 to forcefully remove my acc and it worked just fine (with TS filza)?

[visual meadow]

on 17.0+ it will if you fuck it up

[worn briar]

https://tryitands.ee

[rocky oriole]

Yes*

I think floppa bootlooped from that

[hallow scarab]

yea

she did

[north anvil]

ok 17.0+ that makes more sense

ty

[placid kraken]

@gentle grove

[wooden yarrow]

wtf cursed

why would you do this

[clear iron]

Floppa moment

Also why does it just die after you do that

[slender glade]

hello sigmas

dropping something later today

stay sigma...

[wooden yarrow]

please inform when the sigma content has dropped

[slender glade]

on sigma

[wooden yarrow]

I am signing up for your newsletter

[slender glade]

WAKE UP SIGMASSSSS

@wooden yarrow

@granite frigate

https://x.com/fileintegrity/status/1847253963868897746

Antoine (@fileintegrity) on X

Today, I'm dropping my paper on how Apple's permission system (TCC) works: https://t.co/5a4anZ3sjd

Twitter · Oct 18, 2024, 12:30 PM

[wooden yarrow]

oh yooo seems like a v interesting read

time to see

[wooden yarrow]

also why is twitter like this lmao

[slender glade]

wtf i didn't even notice till now

[granite frigate]

lfg

[wooden yarrow]

ok yeah this is fire

also you did this for your uni essay or sumn ⁉️

[slender glade]

Nah I just did this in my free time

i put the uni there bc i thought it's standard or whatever

[slender glade]

thank u goattt

[wooden yarrow]

damn nice

given a bit of fixes from informal to formal language this can probably be submitted as a essay or paper or sumn lmao

[slender glade]

Yea I feel like I can actually breath when I write stuff for me

[blazing warren]

jelbrek iso 20!!!

[hasty ruin]

😂

[blazing warren]

[cedar stag]

winning

please accept this [e-mail] asset as your award

[faint stag]

analytics

thought you knew this one

[wooden yarrow]

no not that

of course i know about analytics

i'm talking about the / between t and .co

[faint stag]

oh i see it now

something something elon probably broke things

but it's only an issue after discord embeds it

so maybe discord lol

[gentle grove]

https://x.com/catalinmpit/status/1847332053752434778?t=uWDbQUfW8P9oWxcxL9B9iQ&s=19

Catalin (@catalinmpit) on X

Finally a good use case for AI.

Twitter · Oct 18, 2024, 5:40 PM

[gentle grove]

Mine too

[faint stag]

wow i'll never need the modulus function ever again!

[gentle grove]

https://x.com/raiku_dev/status/1847197212981239949?t=cvwsNPH4BkEN89W6iBYWMg&s=19

raiku (@raiku_dev) on X

I can't do this anymore

Twitter · Oct 18, 2024, 8:45 AM

[faint stag]

for all the mistakes this LLM makes, i have to say i'm still impressed at how often it does get things correct

especially when it comes to code

[gentle grove]

i am not impressed that a smart parrot can get things correct in code often

[lime pivot]

I mean, I'm impressed with it because it's a parrot that knows a lot of stuff

and can look it up very quickly

[faint stag]

i mean i asked it to make a java class which:

• reads an xml in an expected format
• reject the file under constraints (missing keys, value for one key should be used to verify what's expected next in the xml)
• check if specific values can be parsed as a EC or RSA private key or certificate and print the results

i then asked it to extend it with a method that takes it all and puts it in a hashmap with appropriately named keys

and before doing so, ensure that each string is just the base64 encoded data with no whitespace characters, headers or footers

all while not depending on libraries that don't exist in AOSP

[gentle grove]

it doesnt know anything in my opinion

[lime pivot]

it doesn't, but it's extremely good at feigning that it knows a lot of stuff

put it that way

[faint stag]

tricking sand into believing that it can think (but can process natural language this time) ✅

also i didn't know a "lambda" style switch statement was a thing since java 14

[gentle grove]

bro

please learn how to use the enter key

[faint stag]

it wouldn't look much better
either way i just took the suggestion from the java extension

that's why there's no breaks

[gentle grove]

thats terrible

[lime pivot]

well you’re not an airline

[gentle grove]

show

sounds like they want you to stop using something deprecated

what does it do

funny enough the only documentation i can find on it is it being a symbol in a rust crate

the reference i could find: https://docs.rs/object/latest/x86_64-apple-darwin/object/macho/constant.REFERENCED_DYNAMICALLY.html

(theres no docS)\

ok i found a meson issue

its just someone's error message having that name

guess ill just have to guess what it does based on the name

so you cant do that with -exported_symbols_list?

yeah but you lie sometimes

what do they do differently

no

this is so cursed

i was gonna do null but that sounded like a bad idea

so in other words you need to get with the times and use different features

i think you forget the platform you are developing for is made by apple

so you do the apple way

then know the names of the functions

then dont strip

dont let it be clanged

whys clang stripping

oh

it sounds like it is your problem right now

i literally develop C too

no you are just blind

[tepid olive]

Bouta build this

[shrewd smelt]

"Marijuana." Let me know if you need more details!

[hasty ruin]

NebulaAI

[pearl sail]

You are gay and a loser

Shit coffee for life for spending 15k

Bruh spending 15k on Starbucks stocks for white girls is a crazy level of being down horrendously bad

[pearl sail]

Unlike you

[light owl]

Woah cool car

The colour is sick

[light owl]

Yes but it is cool

[clear iron]

cool cat

[gentle grove]

DOES THAT HAVE MY ENGINE

which lotus is that

[gentle grove]

TOYOTA 🔥

it uses my engine

2GR-FE

the emira isn't a supercar because it uses a Toyota engine?

I didn't say it was

Corvette isn't a supercar?

I thought you were saying they both were before

[tepid olive]

I couldn’t figure out why my app was crashing when I exited the camera so I just had to start from scratch 😭

[torn oriole]

Wtf is this

[indigo peak]

@torn oriole

[torn oriole]

Baller

[tepid olive]

Idk I’m just trying to learn just some half baked app that tests most common system functions

I get bored and make apps that I only use like once lmao

[gentle grove]

https://x.com/algo_luca/status/1847564664864919695?t=KXhBDDPn-J3y_x2FjDNJ1g&s=19

Luca Palmieri (@algo_luca) on X

Repeat after me: I won't write my own OAuth2 crate.
Not yet, at least.

But man, am I regretting some of life choices on this project.

Twitter · Oct 19, 2024, 9:05 AM

[indigo peak]

good for a portfolio 🤷‍♂️

[cloud yacht]

I wrote oath from scratch before

Was good to know how it works

Idk if I did the full spec

Probably not

Just enough to login to discord

[granite frigate]

i mean better than nothing

i keep thinking of big ideas and never starting it

[gentle grove]

I'm gonna write a Wayland mitm

something like wireshark but for wayland

there isn't a good single solution for knowing everything about a Wayland connection

you have got to be kidding though that they made strings null terminated

[gentle grove]

It can be called witm

Wayland In The Middle

[manic forum]

why

[faint stag]

17 arguments? god damn

[indigo peak]

+ (id)buildWithUDID:(id)arg1 withOrganizationInfo:(id)arg2 withMDMOptions:(id)arg3 withLastCloudBackupDate:(id)arg4 withAwaitingConfiguration:(id)arg5 withITunesStoreAccountIsActive:(id)arg6 withITunesStoreAccountHash:(id)arg7 withDeviceName:(id)arg8 withOSVersion:(id)arg9 withBuildVersion:(id)arg10 withModelName:(id)arg11 withModel:(id)arg12 withProductName:(id)arg13 withMarketingName:(id)arg14 withSerialNumber:(id)arg15 withDeviceCapacity:(id)arg16 withAvailableDeviceCapacity:(id)arg17 withIMEI:(id)arg18 withMEID:(id)arg19 withModemFirmwareVersion:(id)arg20 withCellularTechnology:(id)arg21 withBatteryLevel:(id)arg22 withIsSupervised:(id)arg23 withIsMultiUser:(id)arg24 withIsDeviceLocatorServiceEnabled:(id)arg25 withIsActivationLockEnabled:(id)arg26 withIsDoNotDisturbInEffect:(id)arg27 withDeviceID:(id)arg28 withEASDeviceIdentifier:(id)arg29 withIsCloudBackupEnabled:(id)arg30 withActiveManagedUsers:(id)arg31 withOSUpdateSettings:(id)arg32 withAutoSetupAdminAccounts:(id)arg33 withSystemIntegrityProtectionEnabled:(id)arg34 withIsMDMLostModeEnabled:(id)arg35 withMaximumResidentUsers:(id)arg36 withPushToken:(id)arg37 withDiagnosticSubmissionEnabled:(id)arg38 withAppAnalyticsEnabled:(id)arg39 withICCID:(id)arg40 withBluetoothMAC:(id)arg41 withWiFiMAC:(id)arg42 withEthernetMACs:(id)arg43 withCurrentCarrierNetwork:(id)arg44 withSIMCarrierNetwork:(id)arg45 withSubscriberCarrierNetwork:(id)arg46 withCarrierSettingsVersion:(id)arg47 withPhoneNumber:(id)arg48 withDataRoamingEnabled:(id)arg49 withVoiceRoamingEnabled:(id)arg50 withPersonalHotspotEnabled:(id)arg51 withIsNetworkTethered:(id)arg52 withIsRoaming:(id)arg53 withSIMMCC:(id)arg54 withSIMMNC:(id)arg55 withSubscriberMCC:(id)arg56 withSubscriberMNC:(id)arg57 withCurrentMCC:(id)arg58 withCurrentMNC:(id)arg59;

[hasty ruin]

snapchat has a method with over 300

[native orbit]

mfs never heard of using a struct or dictionary

[indigo peak]

https://github.com/nst/iOS-Runtime-Headers/blob/master/PrivateFrameworks/ConfigurationEngineModel.framework/CEMDeviceInformationCommand_StatusQueryResponses.h#L129

[hasty ruin]

ios snapchat is perhaps the most well made social app

(in terms of dev not design/ux)

friendly fire is crazy

[north zealot]

you will be able to boot 16/17/18 tethered, cryptex can be patched in the kernel

[faint stag]

the naming makes me think they should be bools but like
at that point just use a struct
like y'know, an array, maybe even a map? 💀

[cedar stag]

withADamnStruct: is what they needed

[placid kraken]

(id) is so real

[gentle grove]

Instead of writing my own compositor I should just make good enough debugging tools to fix hyprland issues

[wooden yarrow]

help i wrote a LZVN decompressor that outputs the correct decompressed file but outputs the wrong debug messages

how does this even happen

[placid kraken]

oh yeah i dont think ive posted this here yet but elle is powerful enough for the quake 3 fast inverse square root algorithm

i tried a few months ago and it went horribly because casting was bad

(also cleaned up a little but the very raw translation from C code also worked fine)

[trail nimbus]

why does ur pfp have an typing animation

[placid kraken]

because you have the decor plugin installed

[trail nimbus]

interesting

[gentle grove]

is it fast

[placid kraken]

idk

it was already established that fast inv sqrt is slower than the rsqrtss instruction

so probably not

its just cool that its possible now

[orchid fulcrum]

Evil floating point bit hack ❌

Interpret the bits of a float as an integer ✅

[placid kraken]

TRUE

honestly that comment rewrite was more for me to understand it

i still dont fully understand how the magic constant part works that well

[orchid fulcrum]

Yea its funny how they created the constant for three-halves but threw that just like that 😭

[placid kraken]

lmao yeah 😭

[gentle grove]

i havent read through it or looked at explanations

[placid kraken]

i think in reality x2 is also unnecessary

because they only do 1 iteration of newton rapshon

theres no point to define x / 2 as a constant value because its only used once

[gentle grove]

what

[wooden yarrow]

if fastinvsqrt as impl'd in microcode then

may be faster

[placid kraken]

in the original code they defined int x2 = x * 0.5;

[gentle grove]

dont people have ways to do it with SSE

or something

[placid kraken]

and used it here

[gentle grove]

that would be nice

would make it look a little nicer

[placid kraken]

id argue thats unnecessary because they dont do that operation more than once

[gentle grove]

it doesnt matter how many times you use it

it gives it a nicer name

[placid kraken]

i guess

[gentle grove]

thats the reasoning

[placid kraken]

ah yes

give x / 2 a nicer name but keep 0x5f3759df as a magic constant

makes perfect sense

[gentle grove]

they should probably name that

sqrt(2^127)

[placid kraken]

yeah

[gentle grove]

it doesnt help my undertsanding but at least its not a random number

[placid kraken]

lol yeah obviously

i understand everything except that floating-point-manipulation-thing

i know its something to do with how ieee-754 works

and i know how that wworks

this

[gentle grove]

i am going to write a wayland MITM tool

ugh then i have to figure out what gui toolkit to use for my tool, or a tui

maybe tui is the way to avoid depending on a graphical environment existing

[faint timber]

float Q_rsqrt( float number ) // 5.0
{
    long i;
    float x2, y;
    const float threehalfs = 1.5F;

    x2 = number * 0.5F; // 2.5
    y  = number; // 5.0
    i  = * ( long * ) &y; // 0x40a00000
    i  = 0x5f3759df - ( i >> 1 ); // 0x5f3759df - 0x20500000 = 0x3EE759DF
    y  = * ( float * ) &i; // 0.45185754
    y  = y * ( threehalfs - ( x2 * y * y ) ); // 0.45185754 * (1.5 - (2.5 * 0.45185754 * 0.45185754)) = 0.44714100981
                                                                                       // 1 / sqrt(5) = 0.4472135955

    return y; // 44714100981 ~= 0.4472135955
}

if I feel like it I'll look into it later but heres a commented starting point

[gentle grove]

https://x.com/kettanaito/status/1848013055969407008

Artem Zakharchenko (@kettanaito) on X

And they say engineers have no sense of humor.

Twitter · Oct 20, 2024, 2:47 PM

you know what's really nice about rust is not being able to accidentally create UB by violating thread safety

and also being able to know something is thread safe instantly by just looking for Send and Sync

and the library author can't just forget to tell you that something is thread unsafe

https://ratatui.rs/recipes/apps/log-with-tracing/

OH BABY

they are tracing fans

that is very good

maybe i should be using color_eyre instead of snafu::Report for my errors

tracing is an awesome ecosystem for debugging

[tepid olive]

Is there a downside to enablling all capabilities under an app ID , I know push notifications, extended memory ,but would anything else benefit me really

[tepid olive]

Is this useful at all

[lofty juniper]

about as useful as something chatgpt can generate

[tepid olive]

Ah okay I didn’t generate it it just displayed it on its own so I was wondering if it had anything useful

[polar marsh]

Has anyone ever tested what -unsafe_kernel_text does? Max Bazaily mentions this boot-arg in his 64-bit dualboot presentation and mentions that this disabled KTRR (which I have looked up and confirmed).

Only asking because this arg is present in iOS 10 iBoot for 32-bit as well. Not sure if it'll even do anything since I'm terrible with reversing but curious as to why that argument is present for 32-bit too.

[orchid fulcrum]

What would one hook in CoreGraphics to force 120hz refresh rate in macbook pros with proMotion display

Seems like https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coregraphics/1454760-cgdisplaysetdisplaymode?language=objc to me

[granite frigate]

you can hook coregraphics on macos? how?

[orchid fulcrum]

I assumed ellekit would work same way it does on ios. @granite frigate does it not ?

[wooden yarrow]

shame you can't apply the traits and let the compiler check it though

you gotta just use unsafe to apply right

[gentle grove]

wdym

its applied by default

if you use types that aren't then it removes the trait by default

[wooden yarrow]

yeah but for those that arent

[lime pivot]

why do I have a ping here

I don't see it

[gentle grove]

you have to manually apply Sync if you use a type that isn't Sync inside the struct, for exame

but that is what "compiler check it" is

[gentle grove]

and usually that means you have to write unsafe to actually write the synchronization code necessary anyeays

I mean that's not the technical reason its an unsafe trait but that's the reality

[wooden yarrow]

hm

[gentle grove]

how else would the compiler know whether a type is safe to synchronize other than looking at if every type inside is Sync-hronizable

[grim sparrow]

what for

like im curious of the use case

[orchid fulcrum]

The main goal would be to force UI animations (dragging windows, scrolling, moving the cursor) to a fixed 120 instead of varying refresh rate (which, lets be honest is a fancy name for "80hz most of the time")

[grim sparrow]

idk ive never noticed it on mine

like i can just see it being forced at 120 being sucky for battery

theres a good reason its 10hz -> 120hz

[orchid fulcrum]

I know, extra battery drain is taken into account but still this would be what i preferred. Some people like high refresh rates more than others i get that

[gentle grove]

They do that on macOS too?????

[grim sparrow]

but why would you want it to be 120hz when nothing is moving

[grim sparrow]

dynamic refresh rate, same display as iphones and ipads

as soon as a CAAnimation starts the display goes into "animation mode"

[gentle grove]

isn't dynamic refresh rate specifically referring to hardware VRR capability

[grim sparrow]

which is 90~120hz

[grim sparrow]

pretty much

[gentle grove]

this sounds like a software issue where it doesn't render at full 120

[grim sparrow]

^

when its in animation mode its up to ur hardware to push that 120

[gentle grove]

it should be 120 when you're animating

[grim sparrow]

even if you force the display to 120

[gentle grove]

that's how it is everywhere not apple

[grim sparrow]

(which it already is)

[gentle grove]

even with VRR

[grim sparrow]

the display will be in 120 but the animation will be lower

[gentle grove]

that's even dumber then..?

[orchid fulcrum]

Why is that

[grim sparrow]

well its not its fault

the animation is lower because of hardware limits

i.e. performance

i.e. a complex shadow animation might be struggling

if you've got a lot going on

[gentle grove]

there's no way

[grim sparrow]

macos says "hey we're doing an animation, jump to 120"

and then the animation will push frames as fast as it can

but sometimes it lags behind

something something swiftui

[gentle grove]

Works fine on my amd framework laptop

:troll

[grim sparrow]

If you notice an animation lagging 9/10 its SwiftUI

[gentle grove]

but I don't have swiftui on linux

[grim sparrow]

one issue that you will sometimes notce

[orchid fulcrum]

Just to make it clear; are you claiming dragging windows, moving the cursor etc is already presented at 120 ?

[grim sparrow]

is 3rd party apps not using native frameworks

[grim sparrow]

yes

[orchid fulcrum]

That can't be right i wish i could check it lmao

[grim sparrow]

(as long as you havent enabled lock to 60hz)

(if in low power mode it will lock to 30)

[gentle grove]

moving the cursor definitely is at the 60 seconds I spent at Costco messing with the macbooks

[grim sparrow]

@orchid fulcrum open up ufotest

https://www.testufo.com

if you get 120hz then ur display is fine

if it locks to 60 then you've set something

lol

[gaunt helm]

safari only goes up to 60hz

[grim sparrow]

theres a way to make it go to 120

oh

its a dev flag

Settings -> Safari -> Advanced -> Prefer frame rendering close to 60

turn that off

[gaunt helm]

oh yea i found it

it was the only flag mentioning framerate

[grim sparrow]

you can also enable av1 there

if you have a phone with hardware support

its off by default

[gaunt helm]

i think i do

at least i'd be disappointed if not

[grim sparrow]

15 +

[gaunt helm]

yea i have a 15 pm

we gaming

[grim sparrow]

yeah you can enable av1

[gaunt helm]

broo amy

why is moving so expensive

[orchid fulcrum]

Even this doesn't work for me lmao

[grim sparrow]

what mac do you have

[tepid olive]

Skill issue

[grim sparrow]

inb4 we find out this dudes mac is 60hz

[orchid fulcrum]

I don't have a mac yet lol i am planning to get a 120hz one thats why i was concerned

[grim sparrow]

wait so

how are you testing this-

how do you know its "80hz at best"

[orchid fulcrum]

On phone

[grim sparrow]

on mac

lol

[orchid fulcrum]

I checked it while i was jailbroken, i didn't say it was 80 at best though i said it was 80 most of the time

Like when switching between pages in springboard/homescreen

[grim sparrow]

wut

[orchid fulcrum]

If thats not the time to use 120 idk what is

[grim sparrow]

that literally sounds like a skill issue

[tepid olive]

Skill issue

[grim sparrow]

i almost never see a frame drop on my mac

the only time I do is when i'm doing something stupid like a full res fusion render

[solar escarp]

how to install Founation.h on linux

[grim sparrow]

https://github.com/theos/sdks

grab urself an sdk

[solar escarp]

if i want to make a tweak for ios 14.3 i grab what sdks

[reef trail]

the ios 14 one..?

[solar escarp]

but it's ios 14.5

it work ?

[reef trail]

yes it'll work

[solar escarp]

ok

[grim sparrow]

Latest is usually fine

it doesn’t matter too much

I use the iOS 18.1 SDK for stuff I ship to iOS 12

[gentle grove]

I know on iOS its well known that it never hits 120 unless screen recording

it saves battery is the justification I think

[gentle grove]

It's known and intentional behavior

[grim sparrow]

80fps on the homescreen?

[gentle grove]

Yeah pretty sure that's normal on ios

[velvet path]

it might be on iPhones (though even then it's not as frequent as people make it out to be)

but iPad ProMotion straight up doesn't support 80hz

[gentle grove]

Wdym

Its only 60?

[velvet path]

there's no in between between 60 and 120

[gentle grove]

Oh

[velvet path]

Apple documentation lists what it supports

[gentle grove]

What if it just drops frames instead

[velvet path]

I mean iOS does force 80 at most if you're in LPM

[gentle grove]

If I have time maybe I'll try blind testing the promotion on iphone

[velvet path]

irrespective of what type of ProMotion you have

[gentle grove]

Thought it was 60

[velvet path]

it's 80, it's weird though

Apple is confusing in general

[gentle grove]

Makes no sense

Maybe so it doesn't look as shit

After using 120 on phone and laptop for like 3 weeks, 60 looks terrible but 70 is fine

[faint stag]

common complaint with ios updates on the pro iphones lol

works one day breaks the next

[orchid fulcrum]

Right (not "never" but most of the time), thats why i was surprised when they said macOS doesn't have the same thing

[grim sparrow]

I’ve never noticed it that low

Like even if you enable the dev fps view

[gentle grove]

Did you know they found a new prime today

Last one was 7 years ago

[clear iron]

So that's why my iPad is smoother

[tepid olive]

My app is shit compared to this I didn’t know ADA worked with native Apple ID 😭

[gentle grove]

are you serious

this is main -> loop {}

thats it

theres no line num,bers

oh im stupoid theres rust-lldb

i am not really sure what is happening

[gentle grove]

https://x.com/d_feldman/status/1848232093525881151?t=phcCq2eF9lP1L5CAQ2Dgqw&s=19

Daniel Feldman (@d_feldman) on X

Happy Booleoween!

Twitter · Oct 21, 2024, 5:17 AM

[cloud yacht]

so if you guys remeber from earlier I was trying to port that rust thing to iOS, but it wasn't working because the iOS version had statically linked libraries and the mac version had dynamically linked. However, I got thinking, could I, hook the methods needed, with just versions that call orig, then make a dynamic libraru that exports those hooks, then when the rust lib "hooks" the method, it would hook my hook and work

Or would that not work because of something about the libraty already being loaded or smth>

[reef trail]

do you have the source to this rust project?

[cloud yacht]

yes

[reef trail]

oh why so hard then

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/Procursus/blob/main/makefiles/hyperfine.mk

procursus does it

this is the only notable bit $(DEFAULT_RUST_FLAGS) cargo build \ --release \ --all-features \ --target=$(RUST_TARGET)

excuse the formatting i'm on phone

[cloud yacht]

well basically it's hooking a dynamic libraru bundled with the app and getting functions/replacing them https://github.com/ethangreen-dev/lovely-injector/blob/master/crates/lovely-core/src/sys.rs#L23 but the same app for iOS is statically linked so it can't lookup the functions to use/hook them

relevent past convo #development message

[reef trail]

oh so you've got the project running but it doesn't actually work, probably best to rephrase it the question then

[cloud yacht]

yeah the code runs but it doesn't behave proper because it doesn't do anything wiht the functions

[reef trail]

there was something i remember seeing writing tweaks in rust for objc, probably isn't what you want tho

[cloud yacht]

yeah

I mean if I could get it to use mobilesubstraght instead of what it does now that would be handy

[lofty juniper]

it’s 100% 60hz in lpm

i just checked

ok maybe not or maybe i think ive just confirmation biased myself

[wooden yarrow]

vscode debugger

.

[shrewd smelt]

it's 80hz normally

60 in lpm

[grand tide]

@indigo peak working on calculator history but can’t push the patch for jellyfish reborn

i love when i have to figure out why my phone goes into safe mode every month like it’s a puzzle

maybe it’s intentional then

[solar escarp]

FLEX debug doesn't work on my phone so i can't search the name of the view so what can i do

[velvet path]

how would it be 80 hz if, per Apple's documentation, iPads don't even support 80 hz https://developer.apple.com/documentation/quartzcore/optimizing_promotion_refresh_rates_for_iphone_13_pro_and_ipad_pro

[cedar stag]

mine probably runs at 24Hz lol

iOS 17 is so laggy on A10X

[hasty ruin]

blame swiftui for that

[gentle grove]

Don't think that will help

[wooden yarrow]

easier to use than lldb

.

[cedar stag]

I blame swiftui for many things

[slim bramble]

Good, continue to

[pallid totem]

hello guys

how do i fix down not being imported properly

idk how to xcode i started today

xcode forgor 💀 to add it

nvm i didnt fix it

[harsh junco]

What is Down.h

And where is it

[pallid totem]

package dependency

[gentle grove]

not when I have to figure out all the stuff to do to configure vscode

or figure out what exact combination of extensions to install gives me the right tools

[wooden yarrow]

well, given it is configured correctly

you still need some setup with lldb too so

[gentle grove]

no I dont

you just lldb foo

[indigo peak]

its hard for me to test the fix bc i can't 100% replicate it

i've only been able to replicate it once, and that was unintentional

and i also was actively working on calculatorhistory for about a week, most of the code i wrote back in february

[grand tide]

i sent you the good crash log a few weeks ago

[indigo peak]

yeah finding the issue != testing the issue

[grand tide]

this ☝️

[grand tide]

yeah true

i could’ve tested it today but too late

gotta wait another month

it’s alr idc that much you’ll fix it eventually

gl

[indigo peak]

wdym wait another month 😭

@grand tide think i found a way to reliably reproduce it lmfao

n i think i fixed it

cool

[grand tide]

the reo notification

[grand tide]

epic

[gentle grove]

why is trackpad scrolling on macos 60hz

nvm its a swiftui moment

its only like that in the settings app

[hasty ruin]

fuck swiftui

[fading shell]

swiftui wouldn't even be so bad

if it wasn't for the swiftui

[fading shell]

it's prefs icba

[reef trail]

yeah that's the same excuse i gave for pinnacle lol

imo swift ui is actually good for simple menus like that

wait i thought this was ono

good thing i didn't leak drm stuffs

[fading shell]

[slim bramble]

You have access to glance’s code

?

[acoustic imp]

Why is scrollIntoView moving the document body up??

On chrome it like just instantly loads like that

[tepid olive]

New GPT jailbreak more detailed , this crazy💀

Hmm asked about a nuke and it gave me a cocktail recipe 😭

Might be the .json that passes filter guidelines

[cloud yacht]

Just put in nukeular bomb

[acoustic imp]

[reef trail]

and 16 player

[harsh junco]

leak

[eager ice]

Why? /genq I’m not a SwiftUI fan either but I’m curious why is it so hated

[granite frigate]

it's a meme here

actually iunno i just thought it was

[shy veldt]

Hey, did anyone here mess with LiveActivities maybe?

I’m trying to perform specific tasks only on the media player live activity, but it’s applying to all other live activity containers.

[gentle grove]

at what point do you say [flags]

because apparently not here

SYNOPSIS
usb_modeswitch [-heWQDIvpVPmM23rwKdHSOBGTNALnsRiuagft] [-c filename]

[tawny stag]

Anyone knows a Frida SLL Pinning Script for IOS 16? (especialy for TikTok?)

[wooden yarrow]

mfs just copy pasted the string from getopt

[reef trail]

it'd kill you, the code is worse than yandre devs

[fading shell]

you mean this

[reef trail]

yeah

[fading shell]

lol

[upper hull]

I don't know if you can help me with this, but I'm trying to make all and the issue I have is: ``main.m:20:8: fatal error: 'Foundation/Foundation.h' file not found`

for context, I moved Xcode to another location and it works and reinstalled the toolchain.. but it seems <Foundation/Foundation.h> doesn't exist. Is there a way to re-rout in a sense to point to the new location?

[native orbit]

sudo xcode-select -s /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer

change the path to where u moved it

[upper hull]

That's been done to reflect on Xcode's new location

[upper hull]

so far the command is clang -arch arm64 -isysroot -framework Foundation but clang can't find Foundation, is there a way to set it Foundation as a default path somehow or do I have add in every file manually to the command string?

[gentle grove]

I mean if its not done every frame or otherwise a hot path, then can you fault them for doing that

no point manually writing out a binary search tree for something that isn't a hot path

unless this is a language that lets you switch on strings

although all of that could probably be solved by using an enum....

[worn briar]

Why do i remember this book from like middle school

Chat can someone teach jef swiftui please thank you

[acoustic imp]

idk, jus some book from school im using as exmple

[indigo peak]

@grand tide I pushed the update

[grand tide]

i love you too

i mean thanks

the changelog i have been looking forward to my whole life

[lusty jacinth]

jelly reborn?

[tepid olive]

Apple has announced that iOS 18.2 beta allows developers to develop and test EU specific features from anywhere in the world. The company says this change was made following European Commission and developer feedback

So am I able to make an app market place for the US then this is confusing to me

[light owl]

I think its saying that you can develop an app marketplace for the EU from anywhere in the world now

Cause it might have been restricted to just EU developers able to do that

[lusty jacinth]

[gentle grove]

capt deleted all his incorrect messages flaming rust from 2 weeks ago

did someone send that meme before in this channel which is showing like 15 different rust types -> one single char* in c

because i wrote the c/c++ equivalents for each of those now

ok well i will send it on my own then and then refute it immediately

[gentle grove]

In order, mapping Rust -> C/C++ (closest equivalent; comments to clarify details that don't exist)
&str -> char * // like unsized array of utf8 (technically each char can be up to uint32 because unicode)
String -> std::u8string // since C++20
&[u8] -> uint8_t * // smart pointer holds the length in rust
&[u8; N] -> uint8_t x[N]
Vec<u8> -> std::vector<uint8_t>
&u8 -> uint8_t& // this is not an array, much less a string. is just pointer to a single uint8. should not be in the comparison.
OsStr -> char array on unix; wchar_t array on windows, // NOT POINTERS TO THE ARRAY; these are the actual string values themselves. They cannot be stored in a variable and instead must be behind a reference.
OsString -> std::vector<uint8_t> on unix; std::vector<uint16_t> on windows; // these are arrays; akin to a OsStr.
Path is an OsStr that has methods for dealing with paths
PathBuf is same as above but wraps OsString (owned)
CStr -> char // this is an actual just C char string, but the value; not a pointer to the c string (see explanation in OsStr above)
CString -> char * or std::string // finally: the same as c/c++ but a wrapper that guarantees it is null terminated

And finally: &'static str is identical to the first entry but with a static lifetime. This is usually encountered as a string literal, which is 'static because it lives in .bss or .rodata for the life of the program, but if taken as a function argument, a &String can be passed in (since an owned type can live up to as long as 'static) too.

[torn oriole]

rustoids would hate AppleDB src

[gentle grove]

why

whats to hate there

[torn oriole]

osStr

[gentle grove]

BRO

ANDROID LETS ME CHARGE DEVICES IM CONNECTED TO

THATS CRAZY

[torn oriole]

Boba finds out about a few year old android feature, episode ??

[gentle grove]

ios doenst have the feature

[torn oriole]

apple would never

[gentle grove]

and plus it defaults to charging only over usb which is awesmoe

[torn oriole]

wait what even is this

[gentle grove]

or maybe thats a GOS feature

[torn oriole]

you connect to something and it charges it from the phone?

[gentle grove]

yeah i can toggle on "Charge connected device" in usb settings

[torn oriole]

(my iPhone can do that )

[gentle grove]

it charges my laptop instead of my laptop charging the phone

[gentle grove]

how

[torn oriole]

idk

i do it with my apple watch all the time

cram in my usb-c watch charger and its going

[granite frigate]

is Cursor worth paying for?

[gentle grove]

it charges your laptop from your watch?

[torn oriole]

what no

my phone

[gentle grove]

oh

[torn oriole]

charges my watch

[gentle grove]

what about for laptop

im pretty sure if i did a watch charger it would default to charging the watch because theres no way to do the opposite

[torn oriole]

i dont get to make that choice but i know my switch will charge my mac for no reason

if i use a direct usb-c connection

[gentle grove]

haha so android wins

[torn oriole]

i mean one overdue toggle away and itll be an even playing field

[gentle grove]

can you configure exactly what usb data is transferred

[torn oriole]

no

[gentle grove]

like the usb mode i mean

[torn oriole]

no

[gentle grove]

android wins again

also the usb tethering literally just works

[torn oriole]

tethering as in data tethering?

[gentle grove]

whatever network your phone is connected to

so wifi as well if phone is connected

or the same vpn the phone is connected to if any

[torn oriole]

afaik ios cant do the wifi but it will do the hotspot

[gentle grove]

i cant remember usb hotspot ever working on my iphone

like i tried it before

but that was on macos, maybe its better on linux

[torn oriole]

i know that because i would use it to get my macbook the stupid broadcom drivers that would keep uninstaling themselves after updates on linux

[gentle grove]

here with networkmanager i literally just switched on usb tethering mode and then it immediately connected

cdc_ncm

what the hell does midi do

bro i can use my phone as a webcam easily

[shrewd smelt]

don't you need itunes to use usb tethering on windows

well the drivers

[gentle grove]

do you

apple moment

idk I haven't tested windows

I'll test my iPhone in a bit

I don't know where it is

[grand tide]

yeah the reo notification bug was finally fixed

it would crash every time reo needed to check drm servers

[clear iron]

It does but it only offers if you disable Bluetooth too

Although it always works on my windows pc for some reason without having to

Even when I don't want it

[tepid olive]

Lockscreen debug

[clear iron]

What

[tepid olive]

Lockscreen editior process turned into app com.apple.posterboard

[harsh junco]

lockscreen editor IS an app

It’s just hidden + smooth animations

[tepid olive]

Well it’s no longer hidden

[tepid olive]

had to change the prompt up for it to work on Siri but works everytime in gpt app

[granite frigate]

they unhid posterboard in 18?

wtf

[bleak ingot]

you have the option? mine is automatically enabled with no way to turn it off

[gentle grove]

What is automatically enavled

[bleak ingot]

charge connected device

[gentle grove]

Yours is on???

So wait are you not able to charge your phone with a laptop

[bleak ingot]

well yes

i am able to

its weird

but i can't charge back

[gentle grove]

Maybe its just visually stuck on but in reality its stuck off

[bleak ingot]

there's just no option to toggle it on or off

i can charge other devices just fine tho

maybe its on automatic

idk

[gentle grove]

when its off mine does that automatic behavior you say

but then I cna override it if I want to switch the order

I mean charging a laptop from my phone is useless but still

[bleak ingot]

it only gives me this

and yea

[gentle grove]

Maybe graoheneos adds more options

[tepid olive]

No

Download the ipsw then get .app and convert to ipa then sideload

[gentle grove]

https://x.com/WarrenInTheBuff/status/1849264559560732902?t=QThazXHJ7W_pemQaxI5hEg&s=19

WarrenBuffering (Parody) (@WarrenInTheBuff) on X

LPT: This file in Finder is what your employer uses to track your time at *home* working, the sites you've been on, all of your keystrokes and more

If you have one of these with your name on it you're being tracked and will want to rm -rf/delete it

Twitter · Oct 24, 2024, 1:40 AM

@grave sparrow

[hasty ruin]

bold to assume he’s employed

[reef trail]

i have this on my personal computer 😱 should i be worried

[hasty ruin]

Pinnacle :/

[reef trail]

idk what tweaks you've made they're too irrelevant 🥱

[hasty ruin]

we both know this is not true

[clear iron]

.ds_store malware

[wooden yarrow]

yeah true

[cloud yacht]

Silly question what if you swap which end of the cable is in which device

[bleak ingot]

its for USB-C peer-to-peer support

if you connect 2 phones to each other, you can use that option to choose the host device

to, like, transfer data

[cloud yacht]

Or you can charge your laptop

[bleak ingot]

i haven't tested that

[gentle grove]

USB c cables are identical on each end though

[slim bramble]

I think you gotta know him with the numbers

[faint stag]

don't you just love it when they put visuals over user experience
looks cool but is a mess since everything is an option here

like, the bento grids are great when you want to display info
don't use it for a list of buttons that honestly should have equal priority lol

[hasty ruin]

lmfao

and pop has the smallest button

[faint stag]

looks normal to me
not sure why switching the host fails though

but tbh to disable charging the connected device it would have to support both being the host and having a hal to control usb power anyway

[weary heath]

what's worse is them restricting their apple watch and carplay apps to subscribers only

[placid kraken]

c is a wonderful language

[gentle grove]

i think you can make something this bad in any language

however function pointer syntax is pretty stupid

[slim bramble]

Java:

[gentle grove]

java is better

[slim bramble]

True tbf

[gentle grove]

that was supposed to be irony

[slim bramble]

🙄

[clear iron]

the the the the the

[acoustic imp]

the grinch

[faint stag]

the language is fine
losing practical applications besides android though

it's like
java to kotlin is like objective-c to swift

[gentle grove]

i guess fine is a relative term

[torn oriole]

JacksonTheSkylanderDude67

[pearl sail]

TheLegend27

[gentle grove]

am I right or am I right

[wooden yarrow]

ah yes, burning my life away instead of doing things like playing sports i will never be extremely good at or playing instruments i will quit after playing for 2 years

[gentle grove]

I hate designing software

because it is never perfect

[clear iron]

This can be said about a ton of things 🔥🔥

[wooden yarrow]

then what if you start writing Coq

[gentle grove]

What's that

[wooden yarrow]

"Coq is an interactive theorem prover first released in 1989. It allows for expressing mathematical assertions, mechanically checks proofs of these assertions, helps find formal proofs, and extracts a certified program from the constructive proof of its formal specification."

complete and utter perfection

mathematically precise

[cloud yacht]

Honestly yeah

[gentle grove]

My problem isn't math related though

its data structures

how do I design abstractions for multimedia that don't leak

[tepid olive]

We should begin storing integers, floating point number, and booleans in Strings and chars

[placid kraken]

working on a language is the most productive thing i've ever done tho

i learnt so much about low level architecture because i had to implement it myself

[granite frigate]

making a coding language looks super scary though

i'm not even good at coding in a language 💀

[placid kraken]

it is

i'll leave the code for 2 months and come back and have no idea how it works anymore

but you still learn stuff

if a bug ever occurs like, here, i'm done for

[gentle grove]

Maybe I should write an interpreter

[placid kraken]

says every person contemplating it ever

[gentle grove]

Wdym

[placid kraken]

every fucking youtube video about making a language makes it interpreted

[gentle grove]

My application makes sense thoigh

[placid kraken]

like they all say "we have 2 choices, either we make it interpreted or compiled. for the purposes of this video i'm gonna make it interpreted"

[placid kraken]

true but at least try to jit it

[gentle grove]

As if its some tiny pedantic design difference that can easily be an exercise to the watcher

[gentle grove]

it depends

[placid kraken]

lmaoooo yeah

[gentle grove]

I want to have a good effects system for good caching

Since that's kinda important for video production

[placid kraken]

usually making a programming language is just a niche to gain popularity but they barely implement the bare minimum to call it a language

[placid kraken]

true

[granite frigate]

ok how does an interpreter differ from a compiler other than the obvious

[gentle grove]

I wanna make it so all functions are created by hot pluggable shared libraries that are loaded dynamically

[placid kraken]

an interpreter is much easier to actually write compared to a compiler

[gentle grove]

Then you can extend it with the same functionality as the stdliv

Like so the built-in libs can't use magic that third parties can't

[placid kraken]

so basically panim

[granite frigate]

wait how? both build an abstract syntax tree and convert it to IR, then the interpreter runs it while the compiler does some magic shit

idgi

[placid kraken]

https://github.com/tsoding/panim

[placid kraken]

no IR it usually just runs it

[granite frigate]

ooo

time to make an interpreted language 💀

[placid kraken]

a compiler turns into IR then into assembly usually then the assembler and linker turn that into assembly

or if you're using the llvm toolchain you just generate IR and llvm will do the rest

but the hard part is generating that ir

[granite frigate]

zamn..........

[placid kraken]

like for example if your language has generics, most IRs don't even have strings as a primitive type and you somehow have to compile down generics into that low level representation

[naive sedge]

Does anyone here know how an app could fake the display being off?

As in, turn the brightness down/off

[placid kraken]

set the pixels to being black?

[granite frigate]

display a black photo ‼️

[placid kraken]

modern phones have oled

which means it literally turns off the pixels if it's pure black

[naive sedge]

this is with TrollStore,

trying to actually turn the backlight off on non-OLED devices

[placid kraken]

oh

[naive sedge]

since this is for ValidationRelay which is expected to run for months in a drawer on like an iPhone SE 1st gen etc.

and I have been relying on background stuff to keep it alive, but iOS appears to play tricks with the WiFi connection if it is locked

so trying to just keep it awake but appear off so that it stops disconnecting from WiFi

[placid kraken]

it's always gonna be plugged in right so why not just set it to lowest brightness and set auto turn off to never

ios may allow you to set the brightness lower than the system lowest if you mess with the property directly via code

[gentle grove]

The opposite of that I thinks

I want the library functions to be dynamic libs, then the user writes a script that's interpreted that calls the functions that are from the dynamic libs

[placid kraken]

that is how this works

or we'll

kinda

[gentle grove]

It says you load your own code that makes the animation as the lib

And presumably all the methods you call go to panim internally

[placid kraken]

you compile the main panim executable then compile dyn libs in the form of .so files and pass them to the executable

[gentle grove]

But what are the dyn libs holding

[placid kraken]

information about the animation

[gentle grove]

That part is what I'm wanting to just be an interpreted scripting language

[placid kraken]

ah i see

idk i don't particularly mind this approach https://github.com/tsoding/panim/blob/main/src/squares.c

[gentle grove]

I need it to be extensible

extra modules can be developed out of tree or by entirely different people

[placid kraken]

is this a sane way to reason about testing code in the language itself

with that assumption above you can there be more confident that these tests are correct

or at least i think

[wooden yarrow]

i mean, there is a possibility that while true and false evaluate correctly, other boolean expressions may not

[placid kraken]

thats true

but how would you test that

[wooden yarrow]

i guess just test each boolean connective for sanity?

idk

[placid kraken]

what like test the relational operators?

[wooden yarrow]

yeah

[placid kraken]

asserting that 1 == 1 and 1 != 0 and whatever

[wooden yarrow]

or the boolean ones

both

[placid kraken]

i can just do all

[wooden yarrow]

yeah that would be good i think

[placid kraken]

theres not that many i guess

[wooden yarrow]

no differences between arithmetic and logical operations

well actually

just for the shifts

[placid kraken]

its fine theres a check elsewhere to make sure you cant put floats through shifts

[wooden yarrow]

wb negative integers

bc sign bit

[placid kraken]

from what i can remember you can shift signed integers

[wooden yarrow]

in C++ atleast i think it was disallowed

"In C++11, signed shift left of a negative number is always undefined behavior, even if the underlying machine defines it for values that are in range"

[placid kraken]

i think in rust its just (abs(x) << 3) * sign(x)

[wooden yarrow]

hm

[placid kraken]

in any case you get the same result in elle

so if its bad then rust did it wrong too

[wooden yarrow]

nah just that you're choosing rust's impl for the operator then

that's fine too

[placid kraken]

and if you try a float in rust

[wooden yarrow]

i guess you could just make a new type that defines it

but eh

[placid kraken]

yeah probably

but how would you shift floats

do you add one to the exponent or something

ok well the tokens are screwed up and i cant be bothered to fix them but this is how it looks on elle 😭

[wooden yarrow]

well, for bitwise it's easy

you just shift one in the bit sequence

i.e. the float as int

but for logical

uhhh

i guess yes? increase exp?

[placid kraken]

i

trolley~1

trolley~1

[wooden yarrow]

trol

[placid kraken]

does rust have bit cast

like in cpp you can do std::bit_cast<int>(someFloat)

to essentially do *(int *)someFloat but without UB

[wooden yarrow]

https://doc.rust-lang.org/std/primitive.f32.html#method.from_bits

[placid kraken]

ok i see

im thinking of adding string interpolation to elle

this is some syntax that i think is nice

i32 a = 5;
string foo = ""`Hello with fmt: $$$_-_INTERPOLATION_=_START_-_{a}_-_INTERPOLATION_=_END_-_$$$ and more after `"";

it would be the same as

i32 a = 5;
string foo = "Hello with fmt: {} and more after".format(a);

[wooden yarrow]

i would uhhh

assume you will replace $$$_-_INTERPOLATION_=_START_-_ with something?

[placid kraken]

nope

thats just the way you specify

like in js its ${}

in elle its $$$_-_INTERPOLATION_=_START_-_{}_-_INTERPOLATION_=_END_-_$$$

[wooden yarrow]

@gentle grove thoughts about this syntax

[gentle grove]

Let me read the full history first

[gentle grove]

Oh god

That's horrible

And useless

[wooden yarrow]

useful for one specific circumstance

quake 2 fast invsqrt

[gentle grove]

What the duck is that

[gentle grove]

that's a case for a bit cast

not implementing bit shift operator

Otherwise people will try to bit shift a float and it will become all kinds of ridiculous values that don't make any sense

[wooden yarrow]

yes but it's a logical bitwise shift operator so surely just bit shift

and for the arithmetic one

add one to exp

[placid kraken]

technically this isnt needed actually

the IR handles negative numbers

[placid kraken]

its string interpolation syntax

isnt it beautiful

[gentle grove]

what even

Why

Is that temporary internal syntax

https://x.com/vxunderground/status/1849919750932992069?t=aWytJACEDoLziZn7BLaPcg&s=19

vx-underground (@vxunderground) on X

If you nerds forgot: there was indeed ransomware which targeted chastity belts. We have the source code.

It's Trojan-Ransom.Python.ChastityLock in the Python directory.

https://t.co/5RHeEYWYth

Twitter · Oct 25, 2024, 9:03 PM

[placid kraken]

nope

you have to type it

if you want string interpolation

[gentle grove]

why

[placid kraken]

its very ergnonomic

you know

[gentle grove]

no

I domt

[placid kraken]

_=_ _-_

[gentle grove]

= .

= -

= -

[wooden yarrow]

"hahaha i have your cock now. send 0.02 BTC (Bitcoin) to %s by %s or you'll be locked forever"

amazing message

incredible

[gentle grove]

https://x.com/thatgreenracc/status/1849922926302404720?t=pEbK4euDwTCtlu_0EjNbtQ&s=19

Crylo, the Creator 📉 (@thatgreenracc) on X

@vxunderground idk I feel like a lot of people would be into that so I don't get what they were trying to do with that one

Twitter · Oct 25, 2024, 9:16 PM

[wooden yarrow]

lmao

[placid kraken]

LMAO

[cedar stag]

chat is this kosher

[clear iron]

LOL

[gentle grove]

No that's software

not food

[slim bramble]

Wtf tihmware actually building

[wooden yarrow]

that shit is not going to last a day without tihm updating some kind of dependency and it being unusable

[tepid olive]

“Why is tihmstar still a thing”

“Tihmstar is the Elon Musk of jailbreaking”

[torn oriole]

I'd argue pwn was

[gentle grove]

multimedia sucks

[gentle grove]

both

[tepid olive]

Ripped from iPad and repackaged and an IPA don’t know if it’s cuz I’m Esim or it just don’t work

Ayo🔥

[tepid olive]

is this from <redacted> ?

What

is this a dumped internal app?

oh the name is pretty is pretty self-explanatory

It’s a Hidden app but yes side loading didn’t work

Surprising you can use Siri Shortcuts to open hidden internal apps ?

[pearl sail]

I was gonna say

Wdym it is a g63

Front end gives it away

[velvet ivy]

how do i xcode on a potato

[slender glade]

LMFAO

[tepid olive]

STFU with your fucking watermelons

#779844089196576809 message

😭

[slender glade]

lol memories

[cedar stag]

I guess you were right

It’s already not playing nice with libimobiledevice

[gentle grove]

Is JIT compilation worth the attack surface for bragging rights