development

[knotty tusk]

good luck and have fun implementing relocation

[wooden yarrow]

.

[manic forum]

i don't know what that means

[gentle grove]

I wanna know how that stuff works

[knotty tusk]

uh so basically a binary is made to run anywhere in the memory space, which means you have to relocate it (update all pointers to the correct addresses, and set all external symbol pointers)

[gentle grove]

security moment

[manic forum]

i want to fake a linux environment on a non-linux system, like wine but not as complicated i hope

and run a linux executable

i assumed i'd need to do something like that

[gentle grove]

what if you use real ld.so or something

[manic forum]

oh

huh

that sounds simpler but would syscalls be a problem?

[wooden yarrow]

however much you have in your system

[manic forum]

macos has darling, windows has wine, doesn't linux have anything similar?

[wooden yarrow]

unless jetsam

[wooden yarrow]

WSL?

[knotty tusk]

any binary that directly uses syscalls is gonna be a problem (you'd have to intercept the syscall and handle it yourself)

thankfully most are dynamically linked and dont do that

[wooden yarrow]

i guess on linux it would be more common

but on macOS everything has to use libSystem by default so

[manic forum]

i was hoping that'd help

[wooden yarrow]

yeah still works

crt0

why would you even not use libSystem though

[native orbit]

dont wont on arm now

[wooden yarrow]

full static compilation is unnecessary in most cases

[gentle grove]

wouldn't you have to emulate that anyways if you want the linux binary to remotely work

[wooden yarrow]

huh, think i did it before on my m1 pro

through crt0 manual compilation

[gentle grove]

just loop malloc

[manic forum]

if i expose my own libc wouldn't the problem be solved

[gentle grove]

[gentle grove]

oh maybe

But what if there's programs that use asm

maybe they're niche

[manic forum]

i'll think about it when i need to

[wooden yarrow]

those programs can just die

[gentle grove]

stdlib is huge though

much huger than syscalls I imagine

And basically every language has its own stdlib

do the work 2x just to support c and c++

what even is zefram

[manic forum]

i want to run linux binaries on the switch

[gentle grove]

what does that do

[manic forum]

the idea is stupid and illogical but i want to try

[gentle grove]

Actually my mac is already rooted 🤓

[wooden yarrow]

linux is available on the switch

[manic forum]

yes

but

what if i don't want to reboot

[gentle grove]

zefram is just bootleg cheat engine

[wooden yarrow]

can i disable ssl pinning everywhere

[wooden yarrow]

.

[manic forum]

and what if the program doesn't actually need the entire os

[manic forum]

as i said this is a stupid idea

[gentle grove]

Is that the lower level version of HSTS

[manic forum]

but i want to do something low-level

[gentle grove]

I tweak you

a tweakee would be someone that gets tweaked

A tweaker would be someone that does the tweaking

So you would write the tweak

[wooden yarrow]

the only thing i know about HSTS is that you can type thisisunsafe on chrome to bypass broken HSTS

[manic forum]

nexuscrack.dylib would be loaded after nexus.dylib

so you can tweak nexus.dylib

[wooden yarrow]

.

[gentle grove]

Oh that's really useful

Is there a Firefox version

[wooden yarrow]

uhh not that easily

apparently you have to disable network.stricttransportsecurity.preloadlist

in about:config

[gentle grove]

That would only be for preloading I imagine

[wooden yarrow]

perhaps

[placid kraken]

you can even disable SIP and you have basically free reign over whatever you want to do

unless zefram is meant to be like a jailbreak where it bootstraps you with a tweak manager

[gentle grove]

i might've done that

[gentle grove]

Probably that

[native orbit]

u use kext right?

[hasty ruin]

?

[manic forum]

funny joke right

[hasty ruin]

[placid kraken]

wait you were joking?

[slim bramble]

just add a 0 at the beginning and you're good to go

[manic forum]

about the crack, yes

at least that's what i need @hasty ruin to think

[hasty ruin]

☹️

[gentle grove]

C3

[kind herald]

.

it didn't copy

[wooden yarrow]

?

[kind herald]

Hey

[wooden yarrow]

mashallah

[placid kraken]

hey guys

vlas in elle

use std/io;

def DynamicArray {
    i32 size;
    i32 capacity;
    i32 *elements;
}

fn initArray(DynamicArray *arr, i32 initialCapacity) {
    (*arr).elements = (i32 *)malloc(initialCapacity * #size(i32));
    (*arr).size = 0;
    (*arr).capacity = initialCapacity;
}

fn resizeArray(DynamicArray *arr, i32 newCapacity) {
    (*arr).elements = (i32 *)realloc((*arr).elements, newCapacity * #size(i32));
    (*arr).capacity = newCapacity;
}

fn addElement(DynamicArray *arr, i32 element) {
    if ((*arr).size == (*arr).capacity) {
        resizeArray(arr, (*arr).capacity * 2);
    }

    (*arr).elements[(*arr).size] = element;
    (*arr).size += 1;
}

fn freeArray(DynamicArray *arr) {
    free((*arr).elements);
    (*arr).elements = NULL;
    (*arr).size = 0;
    (*arr).capacity = 0;
}

fn main() {
    DynamicArray arr = DynamicArray {};
    initArray(&arr, 2); // Initialize with a capacity of 2

    addElement(&arr, 1);
    addElement(&arr, 2);
    addElement(&arr, 3);
    addElement(&arr, 4);

    for i32 i = 0; i < arr.size; i++ {
        printf("arr[%d] = %d\n", i, arr.elements[i]);
    }

    freeArray(&arr);
}

this is honestly so much fun

meow

[placid kraken]

ok after doing this maybe the -> is a good idea after all

idk how much more (*arr).a i can bear

[wooden yarrow]

im always right 🔥🔥

[placid kraken]

yea but like

the concept >>>>>>>

the fact effort is required <<<<<<<<

[wooden yarrow]

ok but effort only required once

!

[placid kraken]

true

ok lets see i guess

i dont think it has to be a compile time syntactic sugar i think i can do it at parsing time

[wooden yarrow]

isn't parsing time still part of "compile time"

[placid kraken]

yeah but its a different process than the actual "compile" time

its like ast-generation time

so i can sort of cheat and turn a->b into (*a).b in the ast instead of making a seperate expression that takes in a and b and derefs a before accessing b

[gentle grove]

bro

thats horrible

[gentle grove]

i feel like that sentence should say "...has to be compile time, i think i can do syntactic sugar at parsing time"

[placid kraken]

idk

english sucks

[wooden yarrow]

i will perform a double free on you

[cloud yacht]

I did use my school email for that

[manic forum]

Once you have updated your profile information log out and log back into GitHub before re-applying.

what is github doing

[hasty ruin]

Weird I’ve never had to do that

[olive peak]

thanks i forgot about that, even though its in the name..

[reef trail]

yeah i’m going to have to do the same

[placid kraken]

ok so as it turns out @wooden yarrow

yes, parsing a->b into (*a).b is really really really fucking hard

[wooden yarrow]

.

compile time time

[placid kraken]

because its not just a->b it can be a->b.c or a.b->c, a.b.c.d.e.f, a->b.c->e.f.g->h, etc etc

so

i used your other idea

if a is a pointer to some struct, it automatically derefs the pointer into the struct

but only for field accesses

so you can do

printf("%d\n", a.barptr.nya);
``` and it prints the right thing even though `a` is a `Foo *` and `barptr` is a `Bar *`

and the great thing is, you can still manually deref like

printf("%d\n", (*(*a).barptr).nya);
``` and it still works

its very magic

but doing a->b was

to say the least

hell

partly because the way the rhs is parsed is done terribly

while self.current_token().kind == TokenKind::Dot {
    self.advance(); // Ignore the TokenKind::Dot

    self.expect_token(TokenKind::Identifier);
    let location = self.current_token().location.clone();
    let inner = Box::new(AstNode::token_to_literal(self.current_token()));
    self.advance();

    if let AstNode::FieldStatement {
        left,
        right: inner_right,
        location,
        ..
    } = *right
    {
        right = Box::new(AstNode::FieldStatement {
            left,
            right: Box::new(AstNode::FieldStatement {
                left: inner_right,
                right: inner,
                value: None,
                location: location.clone(),
            }),
            value: None,
            location,
        })
    } else {
        right = Box::new(AstNode::FieldStatement {
            left: right,
            right: inner,
            value: None, // Only the root may have a value
            location,
        });
    }
}

knowing which part to wrap in a deref is basically impossible

so

Thumbsup

[placid kraken]

ok well its not perfect but it works

use std/io;

def DynamicArray {
    i32 size;
    i32 capacity;
    i32 *elements;
}

fn initArray(DynamicArray *arr, i32 initialCapacity) {
    arr.elements = (i32 *)malloc(initialCapacity * #size(i32));
    arr.size = 0;
    arr.capacity = initialCapacity;
}

fn resizeArray(DynamicArray *arr, i32 newCapacity) {
    arr.elements = (i32 *)realloc(arr.elements, newCapacity * #size(i32));
    arr.capacity = newCapacity;
}

fn addElement(DynamicArray *arr, i32 element) {
    if (arr.size == arr.capacity) {
        resizeArray(arr, arr.capacity * 2);
    }

    arr.elements[arr.size] = element;
    arr.size += 1;
}

fn freeArray(DynamicArray *arr) {
    free(arr.elements);
    arr.elements = NULL;
    arr.size = 0;
    arr.capacity = 0;
}

fn main() {
    DynamicArray arr = DynamicArray {};
    initArray(&arr, 2);

    addElement(&arr, 39);
    addElement(&arr, 16);
    addElement(&arr, 0);
    addElement(&arr, 172);

    for i32 i = 0; i < arr.size; i++ {
        printf("arr[%d] = %d\n", i, arr.elements[i]);
    }

    freeArray(&arr);
}

at least it doesnt look deranged

[wooden yarrow]

smh straight stolen from hack diff

[sonic totem]

?

[radiant idol]

False...

[sonic totem]

I have majority of the channels in HD removed from channel list

This server i have just development and announcements and development is muted anyway

[kind herald]

🔌 Charge your phone

[young meteor]

🔌 Charge your phone

[native dune]

❌🔌 Don't charge your phone

[kind herald]

⚡

[pearl sail]

https://tenor.com/view/threat-stewie-gun-murder-night-gif-5128179

[lusty jacinth]

https://discord.com/channels/@me/1189739986707288154

[kind herald]

True...

[proud geyser]

can you run windows arm on m3?

[torn oriole]

Not bare metal

[slim bramble]

It’s cool but it’s better when you have access to it

[olive peak]

To build ellekit as a static lib, do i just need to change the mach-o type in xcode? I did it but after building the build folder only contains a debug dylib

nvm i didnt select the right target

is it possible to compile it statically though

[proud geyser]

Fatal error: Context is missing for Optional(SwiftData.PersistentIdentifier(id: SwiftData.PersistentIdentifier.ID(url: x-coredata://FE5ECE9B-529F-4BD1-9B4C-63CBEDB927E1/Account/p40), implementation: SwiftData.PersistentIdentifierImplementation)) anyone know what causes this issue lol

only occurs when i try to delete account

[manic forum]

what's that channel

[orchid fulcrum]

Why do you even want that

[slim bramble]

here

[olive peak]

Its a bit annoying to use dynamic libs when sideloading an app

I dont even really need all of ellekit just the hooking

[slim bramble]

[manic forum]

[slim bramble]

the best out of them all

[manic forum]

am i the wrong hue of orange or what

[slim bramble]

You need to get accepted

[orchid fulcrum]

Hmm idk if ellekit has its own api but for mobilesubstrate injecting CydiaSubstrate.framework into Frameworks folder of the ipa/app works for me.

[manic forum]

oh

[slim bramble]

There's an application form somewhere

#general message

Here

[manic forum]

there was a dev backroom form where one of the questions was "are you french"

[slim bramble]

yes that's the one

[orchid fulcrum]

Fr ? Thats the only reason i wanted dev role 💀

Do they accept easily at least

[manic forum]

i thought that was a joke

[slim bramble]

Idk I was not accepted at first because "french"

But I mean if you're not french and you're known in the discord you're prob going to get accepted

[orchid fulcrum]

Did you remove my message lmao

[slim bramble]

[olive peak]

yeah but that needs jailbreak

[wooden yarrow]

i keep looking at this form and promptly forgetting about it

.

[slim bramble]

why not just fill it

idk

[wooden yarrow]

will do

[manic forum]

I still can't tell if this is a meme or not but I filled it out

[slim bramble]

(it's not)

@hasty ruin check the form

[manic forum]

wait icraze handles the form?

[slim bramble]

sadly

[wooden yarrow]

lmao

[manic forum]

did i mention that i love nexus, i bought it 6 times i use it every day

never ever thought of pirating it or reverse engineering it i'm good like that

[proud geyser]

anyone pleaseeeee?

[slim bramble]

which line is it happening on

[sonic totem]

You leaking it is the reason OGONO exists

[slim bramble]

stfu

[orchid fulcrum]

No i am also on 17.4.

You inject CydiaSubstrate.framework into ipas Frameworks directory

[slim bramble]

yeah

[proud geyser]

any thoughts ?

this is my account manager https://hastebin.com/share/jujijeledu.swift

[orchid fulcrum]

Where can i learn more about the difference between these 4 ? For example when injecting a framework to @executable / it doesn't work but @executable /Frameworks works (which makes sense i guess). But a normal tweak dylib also works in @executable /Frameworks. I also have no idea what Runpath/@Rpath does

[slim bramble]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rpath

[proud geyser]

@slim bramble any thoughts regarding my issue..?

[slim bramble]

Idk sorry

[orchid fulcrum]

Doesn't this mean injecting in @rpath is simply better

[proud geyser]

Potentially an ios beta issue maybe

[olive peak]

yes but you cant hook

atleast not without symbols

[orchid fulcrum]

Idk about that but with symbols you can definitely hook. C function hooks require jit.

[olive peak]

yeah ellekit can do it without jit, but im too stupid to link to ellekit correctly

[orchid fulcrum]

I see, i thought you were doing a simple tweak so maybe dynamicaly loading substrate would be easier. Never used ellekit so i can't help sorry

[slim bramble]

You can probably replace cydia by ellekit

[olive peak]

wouldnt it be easier to link to ellekit directly? the issue im currently having though is that the linker cant find the function from this

extern void EKJITLessHook(void* _target, void* _replacement, void** orig);

[slim bramble]

Just replace CydiaSubstrate.framework and libsubstrate.dylib by libellekit

Or wait a second I'm gonna cook something rq

@olive peak check your dms

[orchid fulcrum]

Can i have it too. For research purposes

[slim bramble]

Educational purposes only

[solar lagoon]

You have to build libellekit for jitless

[wooden yarrow]

wtf ellekit is jit

TIL

[solar lagoon]

it’s both

[wooden yarrow]

hm

[solar lagoon]

just that jitless hooking is disabled

too janky

[wooden yarrow]

do other hooking libs do it with jit too?

(dont know if there is)

[solar lagoon]

of course

they all do

ellekit is the only one that’s jitless

except fishhook ofc

[slim bramble]

Is there a configuration for that ?

[solar lagoon]

uncomment the isDebugged block of code in the EKHookFunction code

[native orbit]

aint there a limit for jitless hooks? like can only have 8 or something

[wooden yarrow]

why is there a limit

[native orbit]

apple/xnu set limit or something

[wooden yarrow]

wtf

[solar lagoon]

6

arm64 has a limit on hw breakpoints

[orchid fulcrum]

How are hw breakpoints even used to hook shits like black magic 🤯

[solar lagoon]

look at the code

it handles the breakpoint and moves execution to the target function

[placid kraken]

can someone explain how vlas that hold void* work (nevermind apparently i read the thing wrong)

how can you allocate with the size of each element type if you dont know the element type

or like vectors which have something like

typedef struct {
    int size;
    int capacity;
    char elements[];
} V_Header;

and do like a -1 index to get the size

i get the concept but its still really confusing

[gentle grove]

allocate the pointer or what

Did you figure it out

[placid kraken]

yea i was talking about how, for example, you may have something like

fn initArray(DynamicArray *arr, i32 initialCapacity) {
    arr.elements = (i32 *)malloc(initialCapacity * #size(i32));
    arr.size = 0;
    arr.capacity = initialCapacity;
}
``` where elements is an i32 array

i sort of forgot you can just pass the element size

into the function

like ```c
fn initArray(DynamicArray *arr, i32 initialCapacity, i32 size) {
arr.elements = malloc(initialCapacity * size);
arr.size = 0;
arr.capacity = initialCapacity;
}

and now DynamicArray can just hold a void* instead of an i32*

[placid kraken]

but idk how these work still

apparently its called "flexible array members"

[vivid dew]

what do you mean

[placid kraken]

typedef struct
{
    uint32_t size;
    uint32_t capacity;
    char data[];
} VHeader_;

static inline VHeader_* vec_new_(size_t element_size, size_t capacity)
{
    assert(capacity < UINT32_MAX);
    assert(element_size < UINT32_MAX / 100);
    VHeader_ *header = CALLOC(element_size * capacity + sizeof(VHeader_));
    header->capacity = (uint32_t)capacity;
    return header;
}


static inline void vec_resize(void *vec, uint32_t new_size)
{
    if (!vec) return;
    VHeader_ *header = vec;
    header[-1].size = new_size;
}

static inline void vec_pop(void *vec)
{
    assert(vec);
    assert(vec_size(vec) > 0);
    VHeader_ *header = vec;
    header[-1].size--;
}

static inline void vec_erase_ptr_at(void *vec, unsigned i)
{
    assert(vec);
    unsigned size = vec_size(vec);
    assert(size > i);
    void **vecptr = (void**)vec;
    for (int j = i + 1; j < size; j++)
    {
        vecptr[j - 1] = vecptr[j];
    }
    VHeader_ *header = vec;
    header[-1].size--;
}

static inline void* expand_(void *vec, size_t element_size)
{
    VHeader_ *header;
    if (!vec)
    {
        header = vec_new_(element_size, 8);
    }
    else
    {
        header = ((VHeader_ *)vec) - 1;
    }
    if (header->size == header->capacity)
    {
        VHeader_ *new_array = vec_new_(element_size, header->capacity << 1U);
#if IS_GCC
        // I've yet to figure out why GCC insists that this is trying to copy
        // 8 bytes over a size zero array.
        // We use volatile to deoptimize on GCC
        volatile size_t copy_size = element_size * header->capacity + sizeof(VHeader_);
#else
        size_t copy_size = element_size * header->capacity + sizeof(VHeader_);
#endif
        memcpy(new_array, header, copy_size);
        header = new_array;
        new_array->capacity = header->capacity << 1U;
    }
    header->size++;
    return &(header[1]);
}
``` this kind of stuff

header[-1].size

[wooden yarrow]

called VLAs or variable length arrays

[wooden yarrow]

this should not work

[placid kraken]

yet it does

[wooden yarrow]

this isn't python .

that should just go one sizeof(header) back

possibly resulting in UB

so wtf

[placid kraken]

its a feature in C

[gentle grove]

definitely UB if not a feature built in c

[placid kraken]

if you make a struct like

typedef struct {
    int a;
    char whatever[]; // Notice how theres no size
} VHeader_

you can access [0] to access into the array or -1 to access the metadata before the array

[gentle grove]

im sure the -1 part is UB

[placid kraken]

or something

[gentle grove]

but it works bevause the struct layout

[wooden yarrow]

are you able to quote from the standard for this

because i doubt it

[wooden yarrow]

yeah i think theoretically UB

but works out because struct

.

[vivid dew]

i'm pretty sure negative indexes are defined

[placid kraken]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_array_member

the -1 behavior is probably UB yeah

but flexible array members are a feature in C

[wooden yarrow]

i mean yes ofc defined since array indexing is just *(arr + idx) anyways so *(arr - 1) doesn't change anything but the part before has to be properly allocated

[wooden yarrow]

yeah ofc

also called VLAs

[gentle grove]

negative index is definitely UB if it goes out of bounds of the array

[placid kraken]

the definition of a VLA is an array with a length defined at runtime

reading a value from stdin and creating a buffer of that size on the stack is considered a VLA

[wooden yarrow]

why are you explaining this to me again

[placid kraken]

idk

[wooden yarrow]

i am agreeing with you .

[placid kraken]

there are more definitions to a vla than flexible array members 🥲

[wooden yarrow]

oh

[vivid dew]

but that code just casts the vec (pointer to char data[]) to a struct VHeader_ * (aka an array of VHeader_) and indexes -1, giving the actual header (remember the original pointer is to the data, which is located at +sizeof(struct VHeader_))

[wooden yarrow]

yeah so works bcs struct layout

i think

[wooden yarrow]

still a VLA though

[placid kraken]

true

imo this is so cool tho

INLINE uint32_t vec_size(const void *vec)
{
    if (!vec) return 0;
    const VHeader_ *header = vec;
    return header[-1].size;
}

[gentle grove]

whats the difference between this flexible array member and just an pointer to the array

That's what I'm used to

[vivid dew]

the array is physically contiguous in memory with the header

[gentle grove]

Hmm

It's weird

You still have to keep track of the length with your own size property right?

[visual meadow]

ok guys how would i fix this

ASI found [CoreFoundation] (sensitive) '*** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInternalInconsistencyException', reason: 'UISwitch cannot be used on tvOS.'``` can i swizzle this? what do i do

if not what would i switch this to on tvos

    <key>cell</key>
    <string>PSSwitchCell</string>
    <key>PostNotification</key>
    <string>com.opa334.choicyprefs/ReloadPrefs</string>
    <key>default</key>
    <true/>
    <key>key</key>
    <string>launchWithoutTweaksOptionEnabled</string>
    <key>label</key>
    <string>LAUNCH_WITHOUT_TWEAKS_OPTION</string>

[frank fossil]

@implementation UISwitch(hook)
+ (id)hook_visualElementForTraitCollection:(UITraitCollection *)collection {
    if (collection.userInterfaceIdiom == UIUserInterfaceIdiomTV) {
        UITraitCollection *override = [UITraitCollection traitCollectionWithUserInterfaceIdiom:UIUserInterfaceIdiomPad];
        UITraitCollection *new = [UITraitCollection traitCollectionWithTraitsFromCollections:@[collection, override]];
        return [self hook_visualElementForTraitCollection:new];
    }
    return [self hook_visualElementForTraitCollection:collection];
}
@end

[placid kraken]

ugh what is wrong with C

[solar lagoon]

C > elle

[placid kraken]

correct but pointless

[solar lagoon]

C isn’t pointless

It has pointers

[gentle grove]

True

C is great

It lets you do whatever

I would say whatever you want but sometimes what you want is not what you accidentally tell it to do

[reef trail]

is it bad that i’ve never properly learnt c

i could write something in it

but it probably wouldn’t be in the “c way”

[gentle grove]

Idk it's not bad

Do some development with some open source c projects and you can see

It's not hard to learn how to do things the c way

[reef trail]

i doubt it is i’ve just never needed to do it so haven’t bothered learning

[tepid olive]

i don't know what's harder writing C or configuring a compiler toolchain

[gentle grove]

writing c is probably easier

[tepid olive]

in my gcc->clang overhaul i'm agreeing

i forget how many times i've rebuilt llvm at this point

[gentle grove]

compiler tool chains ar e much more complex than the c language

[tepid olive]

i have fully moved to llvm/clang/compiler-rt in libgcc emulation mode/libc++

....except for /usr/lib32

i can't believe i just took a ghetto ass shortcut

[gentle grove]

32 bit in 2024

[gentle grove]

Wait are you german

[tepid olive]

No lol random mirror

[tepid olive]

Blame wine and steam

[gentle grove]

duck wine and steam

I dislike them too

[fading shell]

anyone looking for a german?

[gentle grove]

No

[tepid olive]

I don’t build for 32 but I just have multilib support

[reef trail]

Nein

[harsh junco]

One day valve will fully migrate to 64bit

[slim bramble]

one day

[harsh junco]

Eventually

[fading shell]

Rugmj turning German

[reef trail]

i would like to learn german but i haven’t got the time atm

[slim bramble]

I hope not

[reef trail]

french

more like

[reef trail]

mehnch

[fading shell]

Bertrand, we talked about this

[wooden yarrow]

might as well do a 360 and learn a sinospheric language like Japanese

.

[slim bramble]

learn french

[reef trail]

i’m either going to learn spanish or german next

[fading shell]

He doesn’t even have the time for German lol

That’s a whole different alphabet

[wooden yarrow]

i learned Spanish instead

.

[fading shell]

Do German

[reef trail]

i probably will

feel like i’d get more use from it

[fading shell]

[slim bramble]

I'm not learning a language that teaches you to shout on other people 😭

[fading shell]

It doesn’t

[slim bramble]

Fair but now learn french

[reef trail]

why did you learn french then

[wooden yarrow]

now I have to learn dutch

💀

[slim bramble]

Stay away from any sharp objects

[fading shell]

French sounds like you’re holding your nose 90% of the time

[slim bramble]

It's the language of love

[reef trail]

close that’s spanish

[slim bramble]

lies

[reef trail]

it’s the language of riots

tho that’s more english atm icl

[fading shell]

That’s the only thing the French do good

[reef trail]

fr

and croissants

i like those

[fading shell]

Also, who has a space before their exclamation points

[slim bramble]

French

🔥

[fading shell]

That sucks

Looks awful

[slim bramble]

Nah better

[reef trail]

my dad does it for all punctuation and it pisses me off

[fading shell]

No

[fading shell]

Steal his space key

[reef trail]

he even does it for commas

[slim bramble]

THAT4S GROSS

[fading shell]

Oh now that it is another arbitrary punctuation it’s gross?

Couldn’t be French

[fading shell]

Does he track you 💀

[slim bramble]

No I'm talking about the space before the comma

[reef trail]

i was in barry

[sonic totem]

Average #development discussion about development:

[slim bramble]

[fading shell]

[sonic totem]

Average development discussion about development between developers

[reef trail]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-sucker-party-pooper-thief-of-joy-you-are-a-thief-of-joy-the-office-gif-11156413

[wooden yarrow]

@frail cedar me when the queer thing is french

it's over I fear

[reef trail]

why are you calling my dad queer

and even worse french

[wooden yarrow]

.

[wooden yarrow]

maybe he's bi

who knows

[reef trail]

i suppose

[reef trail]

(so people don’t call me homophobic it’s because i wouldn’t want my dad to me queer cos that’d mean he didn’t love my mum)

forgot about being cancelled

[sonic totem]

Do you mean homophobic here

[reef trail]

ducking autocorrect

[slim bramble]

ducking autocorrect

(the same happens to me)

[fading shell]

What’s barry

[reef trail]

a place

with a beach

close to me

and free

[gaunt helm]

not necessarily

(queer could also mean bi, for example)

[grizzled scroll]

How can i reach livecontainer app devs

[manic forum]

https://github.com/khanhduytran0/LiveContainer

[grizzled scroll]

Is there like a server or channel for the community other than their github

[manic forum]

You can message the developer on Twitter: https://x.com/TranKha50277352

I don't know if they have a Discord

[grizzled scroll]

Ok thx

[granite frigate]

@/duykhanhtran

[placid kraken]

@slender glade

[manic forum]

@hasty ruin wen eta i get a dm making fun of me for filling out the obviously fake form

[hasty ruin]

Incorrect, the application is being reviewed

[manic forum]

"reviewed" ?

are you trying to find my geometry dash account or smth

[hasty ruin]

people are voting

[manic forum]

oh

[wooden yarrow]

me with my calcium filled bones toppling down a calcium deficient twink with a single light touch from my fingers

[slender glade]

💀

[frail cedar]

hi

[wooden yarrow]

oh

yeah ok this is u

[frail cedar]

idk what you were thinking when saying that

[wooden yarrow]

no one in particular but now there's a person attached

[frail cedar]

good

[solar lagoon]

@misty cradle when is the good version of my soul coming

[wooden yarrow]

development of cars

F1

[pearl sail]

Capping your budgets and forcing you to have limited testing time for go over the budget last year by a 100 million

[misty cradle]

it just did

idk if on dsp yet

[solar lagoon]

Did irko do it

[misty cradle]

No

Irko is still busy mixing

[crisp frost]

This is so true

My windows devices are never logged in but my apple devices are

[tepid olive]

es la réalidad

[kind herald]

same

however which company won't sell your soul to a pineapple under the sea

apple .

probably

[slim bramble]

I cba to skip the login page on w11

[crisp frost]

It’s literally shift f10 oobe bypassnro it takes longer to sign in than to do that

[slim bramble]

I know

[kind herald]

me when sign in for work or school -> sign in options -> domain join instead

[slim bramble]

That works too

[kind herald]

it's quick and easy

[crisp frost]

Only works on windows pro

[kind herald]

I literally refuse to use a microsoft account so I will do anything to get past the online account screen

[kind herald]

[wooden yarrow]

yeah but microsoft is like annoying and sometimes logs me out automatically

.

[crisp frost]

Issue is that my windows laptop when I install pro it will go omg this laptop belongs to a school ( it used to but I bought it from the school and the r ict there didn’t remove it ) and can’t set it up

[slim bramble]

I literally despise onedrive

[kind herald]

uninstall it

:D

[kind herald]

Oh

Linux :D

[slim bramble]

I don’t uninstall it

[kind herald]

why

[slim bramble]

I murder it

[kind herald]

Oh ok

Fair

[slim bramble]

It’s the only real answer

It annoyed me to the point I had to murder it

[kind herald]

I would say the same about the "Digital Rights Management" code of another program, however, I was advised not to say anything.

[slim bramble]

Which one ?

Windows right ?

[kind herald]

Yes!

[slim bramble]

Obviously

[placid kraken]

many issues

1. it should be [NSMutableArray array]

yeah

and

calling the array method means the array is autoreleased

idk

if you want it not autoreleased you can just alloc init

instead

lmao

the simplest solution is to just ```objc
NSMutableArray *array = [[NSMutableArray alloc] init];
[array release];

that returns a retained object

[solar lagoon]

i don’t understand how you guys use objective c

[kind herald]

compter

[robust radish]

its releasing an object you don’t own. you could retain it, or create it using alloc+init

why do you need to do that?

[robust radish]

y tho

[reef trail]

“c is the native programming language of a computer” what

ig but so does pascal

well it wasn’t c

[kind herald]

intel pentium

[reef trail]

pascal was pretty real

[robust radish]

that’s a wild take

Fortran, cobol

[reef trail]

for some reason fortran “doesn’t count”

[solar lagoon]

Swift has classes and arc

And it written in C which is the native programming language

[reef trail]

swift can be too restrictive for tweak dev in some cases

[solar lagoon]

no it can’t

just try harder

[reef trail]

i’m not arguing with you, i use swift for tweaks

but some cases i’d never use it

[solar lagoon]

i don’t see how it’s restrictive

orion is though

[reef trail]

what

[solar lagoon]

you have to call ellekit functions directly for it to be enjoyable

[robust radish]

swift should be faster than objc in most cases

[reef trail]

wdym? you can cast in swift

[solar lagoon]

that’s easy

[solar lagoon]

unsafeBitCast

super useful underrated function

[solar lagoon]

just like using logos sucks

using orion sucks

[robust radish]

I’m not convinced, every time I’ve benchmarked them Swift was clearly faster. Dynamic dispatching is slow

[solar lagoon]

capt is just a little slow

[robust radish]

I still prefer objc though

[torn oriole]

Swift when

[solar lagoon]

most people don’t need that that’s a ton of overhead

[reef trail]

in a normal situation doing that is bad practice, it’s only in tweak dev where it’s normal to do that

[solar lagoon]

why would you store method names

[gentle grove]

c++

[reef trail]

i hate python, for a language which is meant to be beginner friendly there’s way too many syntactic sugars

[robust radish]

they’re not necessary to write code though. Python is great

[solar lagoon]

at least swift includes types in its symbol names

[gentle grove]

unsafe

[gentle grove]

thats usually a disadvantage

[reef trail]

literally everything in objc is unsafe

[gentle grove]

exactly

[robust radish]

@try

[solar lagoon]

no its not since you can reuse a method name with different types

[gentle grove]

capt is on his schizo arc

[reef trail]

i feel like i’m going to be abused if i say this but, rust

[gentle grove]

i mean from the perspective of basically any time you would care about a symbol name, you dont want obfuscation

[robust radish]

with signal handlers nothing is unsafe

[torn oriole]

Single handedly causes a
the swift compiler was unable to type check this expression in time spin when building

[gentle grove]

mangling, not obfuscation

i forgot the word

[solar lagoon]

mangling is needed

its an optimization

[gentle grove]

optimization?

[solar lagoon]

reduces size

[gentle grove]

how

[reef trail]

and again in a normal situation it shouldn’t matter to the average dev

[solar lagoon]

instead of having spaces you have cryptic symbols

its like compression for symbols

[robust radish]

maybe the symbol names should just be simpler

[gentle grove]

does swift allow spaces for function names???

[torn oriole]

Yes but Apple must be superior to everything else!

🗣️

[robust radish]

you can have spaces in an objc class but you have to build it at runtime

[gentle grove]

objc is kinda wacky

[solar lagoon]

i mean this contains spaces "test(Swift.String) ➔ Swift.Int"

its not necessary

[gentle grove]

that is a string though

can you name a function that?

[solar lagoon]

Int can just be 14 in the mangling language

[kind herald]

java 🤤

[torn oriole]

No.

[solar lagoon]

that would be the symbol name without mangling

[gentle grove]

what the fuck

this cant be real

[torn oriole]

Finally a capt opinion I can agree with

[solar lagoon]

since you need to include types in the symbol name

[gentle grove]

there has to be a misunderstanding here

[solar lagoon]

otherwise you can’t have 2 symbols with the same name

[gentle grove]

not particularly

[torn oriole]

And mean it

[solar lagoon]

you just don’t get it

[gentle grove]

as much as i like python, java is definitely faster

[solar lagoon]

🙇‍♀️

[reef trail]

well yeah it will be python is interpreted

[robust radish]

python3.12 is very fast, after bytecode is cached

[gentle grove]

id say rust is a lot better because it's not as ret as objc

[reef trail]

i agree with this

[gentle grove]

also rust is safe

🚀

[reef trail]

-ish

[gentle grove]

what do you mean by ish

[pearl sail]

Dynamic linking

[gentle grove]

if you use unsafe things then yeah its not gonna be safe

[gentle grove]

eh who cares

[reef trail]

lots of crates have been abusing unsafe

[gentle grove]

[gentle grove]

weird

well technically that doesnt have to do with rust, just with libraries

[reef trail]

it’s the ecosystem tho

[pearl sail]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684

[gentle grove]

every ecosystem is unsafe then

you can find lots of python programs using native libraries

or java ones

[solar lagoon]

if python is good where’s python 4

[pearl sail]

True bestie

[kind herald]

python 3.99 release date 2054

[gentle grove]

i ate it

[reef trail]

yeah but for a language which’s main selling point is safety, having popular crates use unsafe when they shouldn’t isn’t great

[pearl sail]

If rust is good where’s iron?

[gentle grove]

i dont think theres many popular ones but i havent checked in a while

it is safe if you dont explicitly use unsafe

it works fine

[kind herald]

if swift is so good where is sluggish

[gentle grove]

theres better design patterns available though

[robust radish]

https://libswift.com

i made a thing to help reverse engineer tweak binaries. Swift not supported

[reef trail]

biggest turn off for rust is lifetime annotations, once you put them somewhere you’re whole project is polluted

[gentle grove]

wdym

[kind herald]

@hasty ruin try this with 16player

[gentle grove]

if you have a type that you use everywhere you mean?

[reef trail]

i just broke it

got a 500

[robust radish]

what’d you do

[reef trail]

if you add a ’a in one place it ends up everywhere

[reef trail]

just upload a deb

[robust radish]

a deb is not a binary

[ashen canyon]

💀

[gentle grove]

everywhere that the object you add 'a to is used yeah

[reef trail]

was i meant to upload the dylib

[ashen canyon]

yes

lol

[reef trail]

oops

[ashen canyon]

that's what it says

[torn oriole]

my guy does it say binary or deb 😭

[reef trail]

i didn’t read it

[kind herald]

zip

[torn oriole]

blast, my plan foiled

[gentle grove]

thats ok ill upload it for you

[ashen canyon]

brotha it's the only thing on screen 💀

[reef trail]

it’s 3 am

[torn oriole]

i MITMd bros network and everything

[reef trail]

i’ve not slept

[kind herald]

if you won’t then someone else will

[torn oriole]

i will give someone five dollars to break into capts house and steal zefram

[kind herald]

my nintendo ds lite

[gentle grove]

too bad you cant read any of the traffic

[reef trail]

excuse me for being uneducated but wtf is zefram

[gentle grove]

fisher price cheat engine

[torn oriole]

captinc is typing

[gentle grove]

:typing: captinc is typing

[kind herald]

zefram for nintendo ds lite

[tepid olive]

hi, it's been a long time

[reef trail]

people actually use that smelly os?

[torn oriole]

when zefram for RTKit @grave sparrow

[ashen canyon]

very cool
you should add a feature that generates headers too (i.e. scrape info from limneos or your own header source, find out what methods are %new, adds them to the @interface)
or something along those lines

[torn oriole]

theyre embedding swift now

[reef trail]

sounds like you wasted your money on a mac and you’re justifying

[torn oriole]

wait, zefram release

[robust radish]

when you upload a dylib it shows what it hooks

[tepid olive]

cringe

[reef trail]

that’s pretty cool, can i self host?

[robust radish]

yeah its open source

https://github.com/EthanArbuckle/TweakInspect

[kind herald]

I will now upload my 16Player Crack to this website.

[gentle grove]

can we get zefram to tune my engine

that doesnt help

[robust radish]

No I stopped replying, the telegram middleman thing was sketchy. I finished the tool though. If someone who knows how to use an escrow service wants it it’s theirs

[gentle grove]

what is an escrow service

i can learn

wait so are you saying if someone wants to pay for it they can have it, but in fancy words

[kind herald]

Mods abuse

Mods

[torn oriole]

99% of the requests are from tiktok/insta content farms looking for tweaks to feed shit to the camera

[kind herald]

why though

[robust radish]

You put money in the escrow, I give you the tweak, then I get money from the escrow. You can’t back out of payment because you already paid

[gentle grove]

so yes

[robust radish]

But if I didn’t deliver on expectations there’s a claim to get your money back from escrow

[ashen canyon]

i will act as the mitm

dw

[gentle grove]

ill act as a mitm on your router

[kind herald]

I will be the middle man 🙏 Send money to aaron p613 on cash app.

[reef trail]

or you just trust @robust radish and give him the money first

[tepid olive]

what do tweak bounties pay by?

crypto?

[reef trail]

anything

mostly paypal or crypto

[ashen canyon]

depends, some by crypto, others paypal, sometimes venmo

[kind herald]

zefram rgh3

[tepid olive]

i put it on breachforums myself

[kind herald]

37 cent offer

apple cash

[night rover]

i bid 38 cents

[pearl sail]

Gay

[torn oriole]

me when the software works as advertised

[gentle grove]

google is awesome now wtf

[tepid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-liar-star-wars-lying-gif-8634649

[torn oriole]

what about a dollar, and the french getting banned

[reef trail]

i’ll remake zefram if you ban the french

[robust radish]

for a macOS injection tool??

[reef trail]

not really they just bribed reddit into making them the only search engine it can show up on

[robust radish]

It better work with SIP and restricted processes

[torn oriole]

the joke is he isnt selling it

[gentle grove]

they made all the repair tools and manuals available for newer pixels though

[tepid olive]

erm doesn't that already exist 🤓

[gentle grove]

so google is awesome in my book now

[tepid olive]

and is free and open source

[pearl sail]

Me when they get slapped on the wrist for a billion

[robust radish]

dozens exist

[gentle grove]

that was years ago wasnt it

[pearl sail]

No yesterday

[tepid olive]

i wish they would be broken up

[gentle grove]

what

[reef trail]

yeah it’s called uninstalling mac os and using a decent os like linux

[gentle grove]

what happened to them

[tepid olive]

all big tech needs to be broken up

[gentle grove]

i didnt know anything was going on with google

[tepid olive]

from google to ibm

[torn oriole]

just need asahi to be finished

[gentle grove]

i would only wish a heartbreak on my worst enemy

[kind herald]

bootanim.xex for iphone

[pearl sail]

They got told they are monopoly by US judge

[reef trail]

what’s left for them to do?

[robust radish]

I believe thats what was offered for the Tinder bypass. Some crypto coin

[gentle grove]

make it usable

[torn oriole]

graphics acceleration, i think

[tepid olive]

good, now the doj needs to do what they did with at&t

[robust radish]

macOS is great

[reef trail]

i’ve seen loads of people use it

i don’t have mac hardware tho so i haven’t tried it myself

[gentle grove]

WAIT

HOLD ON

HOLD THE PHONE

[pearl sail]

That worked well huh

[torn oriole]

Speaker driver is disabled because it kept destroying peoples speakers

[tepid olive]

baby steps, hopefully in the future my country will get our own equivalent of the GDPR

[kind herald]

asahi doesn't have thunderbolt support for m2 pro

:(

[gentle grove]

is this what i think it is

[pearl sail]

Yeah

[torn oriole]

if you suggest someone to buy you a lambo again

i swear

[tepid olive]

its such bullshit how i cant delete my patreon account

[robust radish]

I’ll take a 30% loss if someone else assumes the risk and deals with talking to the sketchy buyers

[gentle grove]

i fucking hate using macos

oh my gold

god

[reef trail]

relatable

[tepid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016

then dont use it

[gentle grove]

i have a macbook

so im kinda forced

[robust radish]

it’s Linux but prettier

[tepid olive]

asahi time

[reef trail]

mac os is ugly af

[pearl sail]

Newer corvette

[gentle grove]

you keep asking this to different people until someone says what you want

[tepid olive]

why do mfers call macos linux

my nerd brain cannot comprehend

[reef trail]

cos it’s unix based and people think unix = linux

[gentle grove]

vibrator

[reef trail]

annihilator

[gentle grove]

why are the screws not reusable

[tepid olive]

it's bsd with a "microkernel" which is bullshit in 2024 it's monolithic lol

[reef trail]

forever favour

[torn oriole]

yeah but consider the following

[pearl sail]

McLaren is a mix bag honestly @grave sparrow but their availability for parts probably lack

[torn oriole]

the OS isnt boring on a technical level

[reef trail]

i’m going to sleep, good speaking with you other time zone ppl

[torn oriole]

mfw 2pm

gn

[pearl sail]

At least a corvette has higher availability since everyone has one

[reef trail]

it’s 3 am

[tepid olive]

no OS is boring to me at a technical level

[gentle grove]

rolex says literally exactly what i said

[robust radish]

corvettes are the cheapest to service

[kind herald]

me when that darwin kicks in

[tepid olive]

tbh im that much of a nerd

[gentle grove]

who'd'a thought

[torn oriole]

what

[pearl sail]

Also probably better after market stuff you want is better for the corvette as well @grave sparrow

[gentle grove]

Air Gun / Blowing Ball

[kind herald]

blowing what

[torn oriole]

ball

fuck

[faint lion]

Ball

my ball

Author

frcoal

Version

0.0.6

Price

Free

Repo

frcoal

Bundle ID

cfd.frcoal.ball

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[gentle grove]

Do NOT damage nearly components.

what the hell does that mean

[pearl sail]

Yeah and you can go crazy with it further as well

[placid kraken]

i LOVE rust

the semantics

the way it feels like if rust was a supercar C was a horse carriage

even though its the same concepts

[pearl sail]

How about you love touching grass instead

[gentle grove]

did you search for mentions of rust lmao

[robust radish]

I like the stereotype of all rust fanatics having an anime pfp. seems to hold true

[torn oriole]

rust mfs be normal challenge

[placid kraken]

maybe the function chaining is bad tho

fn get_line(&self, at: usize) -> Option<String> {
    self.input // Vec<char>
        .iter() // Iter<char>
        .collect::<String>() // String
        .lines() // Lines
        .enumerate() // Enumerate<Lines>
        .find(|l| l.0 == at) // Option<(usize, &str)>
        .map(|i| i.1.to_string()) // Option<String>
}

[placid kraken]

i have literally been outside all day

[placid kraken]

no my discord was scrolled up because it does that sometimes

[pearl sail]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-it-i-dont-believe-you-will-farrell-anchor-man-gif-5332521

[placid kraken]

contrary to popular belief it is possible to code outside

😱

i was writing code at a park earlier

[kind herald]

that sounds

Awesome

[gentle grove]

i like it

functional programming is cool

[placid kraken]

i like the ".map" method on options

you can modify the underlying value of the Option if it exists

[gentle grove]

theres lots of cool combinators on Option and Result

[placid kraken]

yeah

[pearl sail]

I understand that usually the ones near me are full of people so I can’t do meth there

[placid kraken]

i need to break my habit of

if some_option.is_some() {
    let res = some_option.unwrap();
    // do whatever
}
``` and use
```rs
if let Some(res) = some_option {
    // do whatever
}

because right now i have this love and hate relationship with is_some() and is_none()

it makes it a lot easier to think about my code design

but it is so ugly

[gentle grove]

i mean theyre the same thing so you just have to equate them in your brain

[placid kraken]

yeah they are but my brain doesnt recognise that i can do that

due to this really bad habit

[pearl sail]

Top looks wrong bottom is off because of the capital letter

[placid kraken]

top is the code i write the most often unfortunately

[pearl sail]

Weird syntax

But all langs are weird

[placid kraken]

true

[gentle grove]

PascalCase is the standard in rust for type names

i feel like it would look weirder if it was lowercase tbh

enum option<t> {
    some(t),
    none,
}

[placid kraken]

this code has got to be the most cursed thing ive ever written in my life

[pearl sail]

That looks fine

[gentle grove]

youre crazy

[pearl sail]

I am

[placid kraken]

honestly

this gives me go vibes

[gentle grove]

i hate go

[placid kraken]

ive never really used go so

i cant comment

[gentle grove]

i just hate it for not being all the way up to my standards

its a very good language

[pearl sail]

It is fine

Good speed

[placid kraken]

rust when i .clone everywhere:

trolley~3

[gentle grove]

thats how youre supposed to do stuff tbh

[placid kraken]

trolley~3

[gentle grove]

i mean if theres an raii way to transfer stuff then do that but otherwise clone is fine

[pearl sail]

I haven’t touch much rust so I can’t comment much expect parroted opinions

[placid kraken]

its hell for astnodes if you dont clone everywhere

[gentle grove]

make it all Copy

[placid kraken]

i never understood how copy works (i never looked it up)

if i derive Copy

on the node enum

[gentle grove]

its implicit clone

[placid kraken]

can i just put it there without .clone() and it clones automatically

yeah

i thought so

[gentle grove]

it makes it always transfer by value

wtf is the word, not transfer

capture by value?

[placid kraken]

yeah

[gentle grove]

no thats for closures i think

[placid kraken]

i know what you mena

[gentle grove]

idk

anyways yeah

[pearl sail]

Any cool hardware projects

[placid kraken]

my main issue with .clone is like

ok picture this

[gentle grove]

its over

[placid kraken]

you have an enum like

enum Foo {
    A(String)
    B(i32)
    C(char)
}

you have a method create_a(input: String) which returns a Foo::A(input)

[pearl sail]

What did you do?

[placid kraken]

now you need to use that Foo:A in various places but the variant will not be modified

[gentle grove]

i tried to go to wikipedia

[pearl sail]

Your dns failed

[placid kraken]

if you try to pass it directly, it will fail because the value is moved

but if you pass by reference you have to keep track of a bunch of lifetimes potentially and that is hell

so you can clone

but then you end up having .clone() in 10 places

im pretty sure String doesnt derive from Copy either

so clone is your only option

[gentle grove]

definitely not because it would be impossible to Copy it

[placid kraken]

yeah

[gentle grove]

thats a timeout so no

dns was fine

[placid kraken]

so your only real option is Clone

[gentle grove]

wdym, what is moved

[pearl sail]

[gentle grove]

why would there be clone in 10 places

does deriving Clone not work

[placid kraken]

let addr_temp = self
    .new_variable(ty.clone(), &format!("{}.addr", name), Some(func), false)
    .unwrap();

func.borrow_mut().assign_instruction(
    addr_temp.clone(),
    Type::Pointer(Box::new(final_ty.clone())),
    Instruction::Alloc8(Value::Const(
        Type::Word,
        final_ty.size(module) as i128,
    )),
);

func.borrow_mut().add_instruction(Instruction::Store(
    final_ty.clone(),
    addr_temp.clone(),
    final_val,
));

func.borrow_mut().assign_instruction(
    temp.clone(),
    ty.clone().into_base(),
    Instruction::Load(ty.clone(), addr_temp),
);
``` addr_temp is a Value::Temporary(String)
```rs
#[derive(Debug, Clone, Eq, PartialEq, Ord, PartialOrd, Hash)]
pub enum Value {
    Temporary(String),
    Global(String),

    /// Const(prefix, literal)
    Const(Type, i128),
    Literal(String),
}

the Value is moved into assign_instruction

when you pass it

so you have to clone

to use it afterwards*

[gentle grove]

and you cant pass it by reference into assign_indstruction?

[placid kraken]

i can but it creates lifetime complications

its easier if i dont

[gentle grove]

how

ill brb

[placid kraken]

in this case i dont think it matters

but you end up, in your code for assign_function, just calling .to_owned() anyway

but before i was trying to make a struct_pool that is a &Rc<RefCell<Vec<String>>> and my parser would take in that value at initialization

which means the parser needed a lifetime

so that meant i could no longer pass self into the broken up functions anymore to have access to advance() and expect_tokens()

because it works like that

in that case it was easier to take in just a Vec<String>, mutate it, and return a new Vec<String> and override it in the parent function where the parser::new() was called

but still thats just one example of a massive headache i had from lifetimes

i was getting into some horrible &'a RefCell<&'a mut Parser<'a>> type signatures and honestly that was so hell i never want to work with that ever again

just to get "lifetime does not live long enough"

not fun

[gentle grove]

im tired but is it not solved by AsRef<Value>

[placid kraken]

im not sure

[gentle grove]

what languages are you referring to?

probably because you almost exclusively listed functional programming languages which are designed differently

[cloud yacht]

They are just built different

[faint timber]

3utools spotted

[warm bough]

i was testing sum

oh

im a purple name

[faint timber]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-dog-dawg-nerdydog-gif-26896104

[tepid olive]

why is that shit even censored

i hate the moderation

if we’re referring to that as being negative at least let me say it

[faint timber]

https://tenor.com/view/xenoblade-xenoblade-chronicles-xenoblade-chronicles2-xenoblade-chronicles1-xenoblade-chronicles-definitive-edition-gif-26532495

https://tenor.com/view/pon-gif-15097379091171620462

[gentle grove]

why can i not just see the print output of a doctest for debugging purposes

[sonic totem]

How do you program GIR to do that though

3utools is malware so you don’t want people talking about it

[tepid olive]

true

[orchid fulcrum]

Makefile

ARCHS = arm64
THEOS_PACKAGE_SCHEME = rootless
GO_EASY_ON_ME = 1

include $(THEOS)/makefiles/common.mk

TWEAK_NAME = Experiments

Experiments_LDFLAGS = -lAudioSession 

Experiments_FILES = Tweak.x ringerAudioHook.x
Experiments_CFLAGS = -fobjc-arc 
Experiments_FRAMEWORKS = Foundation AVFAudio UIKit AudioToolbox
Experiments_PRIVATE_FRAMEWORKS = AudioSession
include $(THEOS_MAKE_PATH)/tweak.mk```


headers
```#import <Foundation/Foundation.h>
#import <UIKit/UIKit.h>
#import <AVFAudio/AVFAudio.h>
#import <AudioToolbox/AudioToolbox.h>```


errors

```Tweak.x:107:18: error: no known class method for selector 'primarySession'
[[AVAudioSession primarySession] setCategory: audioSessionCategory error:nil];
                 ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~```

can somebody tell me what i am doing wrong ?

[cinder frigate]

I think you are referencing another version of the framework.
here that method exists, but in the 16.5 sdk that you are using, assuimng it's the theos one, that method doesn't exist at all.
You can verify this with grep --include=\*.h -rn 'path/to/sdk' -e "primarySession", have a look here for reference

Does anyone have an idea why my app refuses to show the keyboard (the physical one doesn't work either)? It doesn't even appear in the FLEX screen

[orchid fulcrum]

it does exist in 16.3 and 17.1. i would be surprised if it is absent in 16.5. anyway i ended up using runtime to use the methods

[ashen canyon]

AVAudioSession is a public class and if you go to apples docs for that class you will see that primarySession doesn't appear, meaning that primarySession is a private method. So you would need to add this code to your headers/tweak.x:

@interface AVAudioSession (Private)
+ (id)primarySession;
@end

cc @cinder frigate

[orchid fulcrum]

Yeah thats what i ended up doing. Before i was trying to link to the private framework that has the method but couldn't do it. Thanks

[placid kraken]

my solution to the donut was to just redo it with the real math (using vectors)

it doesnt normalize the vectors because sqrt is a very slow operation

it uses the length squared

[wooden yarrow]

technically the original author of the donut also used vectors

[placid kraken]

well yeah but they cheated in the donut.c

by just bundling it all together

[placid kraken]

am i insane

[hasty ruin]

just a nerd

👍

[kind herald]

no

[hasty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-edit-i-saw-what-you-edited-i-saw-gif-27672816

[kind herald]

False

[placid kraken]

good

[tepid olive]

the list is dwindling :3 ❤️

(libc++ ftw)

[placid kraken]

libc++???

thats actually a thing??