development

[visual meadow]

Or does softwareupdated only do system updated

[slim bramble]

Oh we’re so back

[tepid olive]

i think it does app store updates too

[torn oriole]

Just temporarily allow it when you need to update something

I do not believe it interfered with any App Store stuff

[visual meadow]

I plan to stay on 14.1 lol

[faint timber]

L

[torn oriole]

You can just download stuff like command line tools manually

[tepid olive]

how do i update macos sequoia to b2

[visual meadow]

But i realized that 14.1.1 fixed java stuff so i quickly installed the kernel from that lol

[torn oriole]

In settings > update?

[tepid olive]

i dont have paid dev account

it says i need one to update

[torn oriole]

You don’t need it lmao

It’s tripping

Unless Apple decided they’d undo it magically

[weary heath]

https://tenor.com/view/veeunus-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-done-gif-24674884

[visual meadow]

@torn oriole is this 14.1.1 or 14.1 kernel version root:xnu-10002.41.9~7/RELEASE_ARM64_T6030

wait wtf i thought they changed the kernel version in 14.1.1

maybe they changed something without changing kernel version idk

[torn oriole]

What’s the build date

[visual meadow]

its the same as 14.1

oct 9

[torn oriole]

It isn’t

I meant time

[visual meadow]

21:32:11

[torn oriole]

That’s annoying

[visual meadow]

whatever i got it from the 14.1.1 ipsw

and it has differences so

[torn oriole]

Probably the later 14.1.1 then

[visual meadow]

java has never worked idk why

its never worked

any idea why

[tepid olive]

is that jetbrains mono

or the default font

[tepid olive]

i think mac consolas

[placid kraken]

why is this channel turning more and more into general

[tepid olive]

shep back!!!

nvm

[main apex]

@grave sparrow

[placid kraken]

@grave sparrow hi shep

[gilded pike]

how 2 attach debugger to Springboard no userspace panic 2024

[hasty ruin]

No that’s #1189739986707288154

[torn oriole]

(Swift reference)

[slender glade]

I've almost never had a segfault in Swift

does EXC_BAD_ACCESS count bc i've had those a few times

[pearl sail]

I mean they are the same are they not?

Both point to memory access being wrong in a way

[slender glade]

i mean

[thorny rivet]

thegutone132

[slender glade]

thegutone132

[torn oriole]

thegutone132

[frail cedar]

thegutone132

[crisp frost]

thegutone132

[granite frigate]

thegutone132

[kind herald]

thegutone132

[wooden yarrow]

thegutone132

[manic forum]

thegutone132

[slim bramble]

thegutone132

[harsh junco]

thegutone132

[placid kraken]

thegutone132

[onyx slate]

thegutone132

[hasty ruin]

#development chain so good it resurrected you

[torn oriole]

Resurrected professional

[onyx slate]

It was really good, i had to

[torn oriole]

Chain so good it woke bro up from the dead

[onyx slate]

It's been two years since i haven't sent a message here wtf

I didn't think it was that long ago

[torn oriole]

Bro dips and the entire server changes

According to my calculations

I probably started my admin speedrun when you left

[hasty ruin]

free shepgoba 🙏

[torn oriole]

Rip the shep

[wooden yarrow]

smh should have waited for other people to ressurect

[torn oriole]

Icraze drop the admin speedrun stats

Rq

[hasty ruin]

#jailbreak message

[onyx slate]

Yeah i don't remember you tbh lol

[torn oriole]

(I love getting token logged)

[wooden yarrow]

awaiting the admin -> owner

🙏

[hasty ruin]

we can dream

[torn oriole]

You won’t

Certified whitename turned known

My ass started yapping and here I am

[granite frigate]

im cooked

[hasty ruin]

certified r turned administrative r

[granite frigate]

user to developer in 2 years

my speedrun aint working out

[torn oriole]

My user to developer speedrun is still going if it’s any condolence

[onyx slate]

Same in 4 years

[hasty ruin]

Grow a neckbeard and put on weight

[torn oriole]

Don’t forget to install arch linux

[granite frigate]

nah if i get any mod role here im leaving

😭

[onyx slate]

Edit : 6 years

I've been here for 6 years wtf

How

[torn oriole]

Bro is an og

This is like the awakening of captain america bros missed so much lore 😭

[slender glade]

lMFAOOO

[onyx slate]

I did lmao i don't know most of the people here

[slender glade]

i was here since 2018 except I was the lore

[hasty ruin]

guys 2015 was like a decade ago

[granite frigate]

34 pages

[slender glade]

it's 23

34 is porn

[granite frigate]

fuck

[slender glade]

self report is crazy

[granite frigate]

nah its close

[torn oriole]

So much has changed 💀

[slender glade]

your twitter last month make sense then

[granite frigate]

❓

[slender glade]

your likes

you thought no one would notice

i saw it mf

[granite frigate]

nah im normal

[slender glade]

in 4k too

[granite frigate]

🙏

[torn oriole]

(Likes are private now)

[placid kraken]

i think mine is 🙏

[slender glade]

hence the last month

[granite frigate]

[wooden yarrow]

not entirely

it can still show on feed

[torn oriole]

But let them believe

[wooden yarrow]

fr

[granite frigate]

who uses twitter for porn

[slender glade]

sick freaks only

typo

[granite frigate]

i didnt see the before

[slender glade]

it was sick freak only

but i forgot an s

[granite frigate]

fr

[slender glade]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/285804405046

who wanna get me this

nvm 128.43 dollars

[granite frigate]

what anime even is that

i recognise the character

[slender glade]

it's literally in the name

The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya

[granite frigate]

oh

[slender glade]

I bought the novel

and it's giving me severe brainrot lmao

[granite frigate]

super driver ‼️‼️

[slender glade]

oh my god please don't spoil parts of the anime

[granite frigate]

no i just play osu

[slender glade]

not u the pink name

[hasty ruin]

Nightwind retweets it on his alt

[slender glade]

128 is a tenth of my pay do we do it

purple mb

[wooden yarrow]

so much tracking

💀

[granite frigate]

i cant believe ur getting paid half of what i do

[slender glade]

yeah that's an insane fucking link one sec

[granite frigate]

and i just do web dev

[slender glade]

i got lowballed soooooo bad

but it's okay we live and learn

and get exploited

[granite frigate]

how long before you leave

just get your pay once then dip

[slender glade]

nah i like it there but he pays so lil

[granite frigate]

hmm

[warped sparrow]

@placid kraken the new flora version is working flawlessly, so far its only crashed TikTok once but no daemons are crashing like healthappd etc.

[placid kraken]

lmao that’s good

[warped sparrow]

Yupp

It was crashing a PlayStation app extension with the older version

[placid kraken]

battery should also be a little bit better because before it was injecting into MessagesNotificationViewService like once every 2 seconds

[warped sparrow]

But even that is fixed now

[warped sparrow]

💀

[placid kraken]

hmmm interesting didn’t know this would fix that many things

[warped sparrow]

No wonder why my battery life was horrid 😭

[placid kraken]

no i don’t think it will affect it that much

but i was logging every process that flora was injecting into

[warped sparrow]

yeah the only new crash was tiktok but disabling flora for it in choicy worked

[placid kraken]

it does one injection into every normal process but then it consistently kept logging that service as if it was running in a loop

[warped sparrow]

Ah i see

[placid kraken]

also idk about this because tiktok has never crashed for me even with flora

[warped sparrow]

Yeah, after opening tiktok a second time it worked so i think its something you can overlook

Here's the crash log from cr4shed if you need it

[placid kraken]

i’ll look soon because i’m currently out

[slender glade]

@grim sparrow excited to use cheyote 💯

[grim sparrow]

Ikr eta s0n

[slender glade]

wyd rn am am

[grim sparrow]

About to shower + wash hair

And then laundry

And then packing

And then leaving

[random field]

anyone here who knows why all apps are crashing if hooked into springboard and filter is set to com.apple.UIKit ?

if i only hook into UIKit, it works fine and if i hook into SpringBoard with filter com.apple.springboard, hooks are also fine

[slender glade]

@grim sparrow i love AsyncStream so fucking much it's actually amazing omg

[grim sparrow]

Haha

Yeah

[slender glade]

nvm im swift concurrency's no1 fan now

[grim sparrow]

lol

[drifting heron]

what's the point of that paper #announcements

[cloud yacht]

Do you know me (I have no idea who you are)

[slow raptor]

oh hey you

[cloud yacht]

It's look who it is

[slow raptor]

its undefined

lmao I think I just figured out a way to instantly crash springboard in 18 beta 2

[faint stag]

it's a beta i mean

[manic forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/361390616548081665/1255573505831862332/image0.jpg

why was i doing this again

[manic forum]

CPU-dependent scratch code

[lean ermine]

just change display zoom

[placid kraken]

finally i can create a hello world program

[unique wedge]

is there a way to put this in an ipa? I know this might sound stupid, but I like having a "respring" app that I can trigger when beta gets stuck at something

I had a respring ipa on ios 17 bets as well for this exact purpose

for anyone who recognises this app icon, you're welcome XD

I requested a direct respring app like a year back, became instaspring, made this icon for it, and it got used in so many cases with the whole MDC situation as one tap respring app

[placid kraken]

@slender glade https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684162772396802155/1255008447276257360/851B71CD-A451-4A5F-B4F0-05A211C9A521.mov?ex=667d8b72&is=667c39f2&hm=646e1689063ea5d36716a783d051b53a81f2783a9f94ab8315952c3d973a233d&

[thorny rivet]

assembly in scratch

[weary heath]

assembly in scratch

[elder scaffold]

?

[thorny rivet]

is this meowbrek

[elder scaffold]

?

[thorny rivet]

did you make meowbrek2?

just asking

[elder scaffold]

idk

[thorny rivet]

scratch web app in assembly

[cloud yacht]

assembly web app in scratch

[slim bramble]

@hasty ruin https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1171358557451583519/1255629675556900945/image.png?ex=667dd3c3&is=667c8243&hm=f610d78788ac67ca618f43ab26737d4e87371382b3bd70629b24807aa0455a9c&

Does that surprise you ?

[tepid olive]

why is this a subject here?

[restive ether]

you know why

[tepid olive]

nice deleted message

[slim bramble]

This is the 3rd time in 3 days you say ! I hope you have other things to call me !

[slim bramble]

?

Most likely gir

[restive ether]

cry to aaron if i broke a rule i dare you

do something about it

[tepid olive]

he didn't call you anything here

i called it out

[slim bramble]

Real

[young meteor]

true

[tepid olive]

because i highly doubt you're asking about how people feel that you muted the server 🙃

[slim bramble]

It’s not even my picture

Someone sent that to me

[tepid olive]

so why bring up drama here?

[slim bramble]

Notice how it is a link

[restive ether]

he’s just asking questions

[slim bramble]

I’m not bringing any drama, you are the ones creating it

Anyways it’s off topic.

[brazen timber]

can confirm

[tepid olive]

do you have any problems with the rust team supporting the LGBTQ community?

of which there's a lot of rust developers and LGBTQ people overlap

[warped sparrow]

@placid kraken this also happens occasionally in the photos app due to flora

I made the red box

But the labels dissappear

[placid kraken]

uhhhh ive never had that happen to me either but ill look into it

did this happen in 1.1.4?

[worn briar]

Dear developers of rjb discord,\nI hope this message finds you well. I am requesting your assistance in obtaining a version of xcode which will function on my macbook air on MacOS Sequoia. I look forward to your response.\nBest Regards,\nJeff

[patent hamlet]

im on dopamine2 and i use mobile@ip to connect via ssh to my iPhone but when using theos make do command to build my deb and automatically put it on the device it uses root@ip and i dont have a password set for root and nor do i know how to do that.

Command I'm using:
make do THEOS_PACKAGE_SCHEME=rootless THEOS_DEVICE_IP=IP

i just tried su root on my iPhone and it asks for a password but i dont remember setting this password

[faint stag]

well for one, to install packages you do need to have root perms
rootless jailbreaks don't allow for root login without elevating using sudo (mobile password, not root user password)
you can get around theos auth by copying ssh keys to your device

[torn oriole]

You set that password when you set up your jailbreak

[patent hamlet]

ssh-keygen
ssh-copy-id root@<your ip>

I have already ran these commands to make a key

so it doesnt ask

but that applies for mobile@ip

i swapped out root with mobile basically

wait mobile password?

[faint stag]

move keys to the proper directory
/var/jb/var/root

[patent hamlet]

do you have a guide for this

[faint stag]

wdym

[patent hamlet]

like is there a readable guide to make it easier

im a little braindead

[faint stag]

you know how each user has a home folder

the home folder for mobile is /var/jb/var/mobile (rootless)

[patent hamlet]

but i just generated these keys on my pc

like im using wsl

[faint stag]

ssh-copy-id copies them for you

so all you have to do is move them

[patent hamlet]

and those commands were all ran on my pc

[faint stag]

from mobile

to root

[patent hamlet]

should i run them on my mobile instead?

but the thing is dont i need to know my root password first?

[faint stag]

there isn't one

at least one you can use

[patent hamlet]

ok so those ssh commands were supposed to be run on my pc

lets start from the beginning

so i run these commands on my pc

[faint stag]

use the same command but with the mobile user instead of root...
then copy the .ssh folder from /var/jb/var/mobile to /var/jb/var/root using filza

that's it

[patent hamlet]

yeah but im so confused nothing happens on the device

oh nvm

ok wait

ok i did that but i still get prompted when building my tweak

and i ran:

ssh-keygen
ssh-copy-id mobile@192.168.0.18

on my pc

[gentle grove]

It's trying to log into root

you copied your id to the mobile user

[faint stag]

and i told them to copy the ssh keys from mobile to root

on the device

lol

[gentle grove]

lmao

[patent hamlet]

i copied the .ssh folder from mobile to root

with filza

[gentle grove]

chown -R root:root /root/.ssh

the ownership is probably wrong

[gentle grove]

Assuming that's the directory of the root user

change it if it's not

[faint stag]

probably
i thought filza would alter that since the folder is owned by root

but i mean, doesn't prevent root from creating a directory owned by mobile

[patent hamlet]

ill just use the direcotry where the .ssh folder is

on root

[gentle grove]

well it would probably write as mobile

[patent hamlet]

chown -R root:root /var/jb/var/root/.ssh

so i gotta run this command

[faint stag]

yes

[patent hamlet]

says root:root doesnt exist

or not doesnt exist but its in swedish

just basically says its invalid

[faint stag]

right

lol

[patent hamlet]

operation not permitted

i need sudo access

but how can i do that without knowing root password

[faint stag]

of course

you don't need the root password for sudo

[patent hamlet]

sudo chown root:wheel -R /var/jb/var/root/.ssh

[faint stag]

it uses the one for mobile

[patent hamlet]

oh ok

i'll run that command i send

my bad just wrote it wrong on discord

ok command worked this time

now i just rerun the make command to build my .deb file

is there anyway to see the .deb file that got installed in like sileo

its not listed in Packages tab in Sileo

[faint stag]

it will be listed there

as the package name

[cloud yacht]

Can't you just set a root password?

[faint stag]

passwd is going to ask you for the existing password lol

[cloud yacht]

If you sudo passwd I don't think it does

[faint stag]

well i mean, try and see what happens
because i was still not able to login with that on rootless

[cloud yacht]

I'm pretty sure I have a root password on my ipad

[patent hamlet]

#import <UIKit/UIKit.h>

@interface _UIStatusBarForegroundView : UIView
@end

%hook _UIStatusBarForegroundView

- (void) didMoveToWindow {
    %orig;
    self.hidden = YES;
}

%end

you guys proud of me first ever tweak and i dont understand anything of it

anybody please do a little summary of the code and explain it for me 🥺

cant i use just use true or 1

or is YES better practice

ok changed

oh ok

[ashen canyon]

bool supremacy

[patent hamlet]

im a obj-c hater

im a python developer im never getting used to this syntax

but i do understand a couple of things like %hook hooks into _UIStatusBarForegroundView which is the staturbar as a whole i guess, i used FLEXing for that

[ashen canyon]

Class.method(arg1, arg2)
becomes
[Class method:arg1 arg2Label:arg2]
🤯

[patent hamlet]

and it inherits it from UIView

[radiant idol]

technically that's not actually objc syntax

[radiant idol]

just a preprocessor

[patent hamlet]

yeah but this is my first hour of developing so i'll probably get used to it

what is %orig?

yeah but what does it do specifically

[ashen canyon]

original functionality of the function your hooking

[patent hamlet]

im just following a guide

[radiant idol]

have you looked at my tweak dev tutorial @patent hamlet

[patent hamlet]

yeah im following that one

[radiant idol]

ah

[patent hamlet]

im just a little braindead

[radiant idol]

so like

[patent hamlet]

but i'll get into it in a couple of weeks or months

ok so if i didnt include %orig it would just override the function

[radiant idol]

%hook SomeClass

- (void)someMethod {
    %orig; // the original code that Apple (or whoever originally made the code wrote)
    // your code after
}

%end

ofc you can completely overwrite methods

yeah

that too

or you can call %orig conditionally if you want, say if an if statement is true

[patent hamlet]

but what about integrating a couple of settings liek other tweaks

they have a settings page for configuration

is there like a repo which is for beginners i could just read that

and look at it

[radiant idol]

take a look at the tweaks on my github - I have a couple simple ones that have preference bundles

[patent hamlet]

and try to understand and read some docs

[patent hamlet]

will do

[radiant idol]

yeah 😭

[patent hamlet]

wtf how you guys know so much without reading docs

besides probably trial and error

[radiant idol]

trial and error

yeah

[patent hamlet]

ah ok

yeah i guess

[cloud yacht]

Quick someone pull up the 6 year old video explaining tweak prefs

[patent hamlet]

one thing i found weird was that some commands returned in swedish

[ashen canyon]

Original method:

- (void)method {
    NSLog(@"Hello!");
}

Output: Hello!

Hooked code w/o %orig

- (void)method {
    NSLog(@"Hello from a hook!");
}

Output: Hello from a hook!

Hooked code w %orig before custom code

- (void)method {
    NSLog(@"Hello from a hook!");
    %orig;
}

Output: Hello from a hook! Hello!

Hooked code w %orig after custom code

- (void)method {
    %orig;
    NSLog(@"Hello from a hook!");
}

Output: Hello! Hello from a hook!

[patent hamlet]

but my region and language is set to english

actually nvm region is set to swedish

but shouldnt it go by language

thats weird

bad apple

I just looked at this example

is this legit the entire code for the tweak?

[radiant idol]

• https://ivancristina.github.io/2020/01/06/prefspecifiers/
• http://www.iphonedev.wiki/Preferences_specifier_plist (this page is down so here's the waybackmachine archived version) https://web.archive.org/web/20240513055653/http://www.iphonedev.wiki/Preferences_specifier_plist
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHEuM1e8V40
• https://github.com/NightwindDev/Preference-Bundle-Example

[radiant idol]

yep

[patent hamlet]

its supposed to forcefully rotate apps

but that method isMedusaCapable i gotta check what that does in apple developer docs i guess then

[radiant idol]

Apple Developer docs wont have that

it's a private method

[patent hamlet]

so how do i figure out these private methods

[radiant idol]

Apple Dev docs only have public ones

[patent hamlet]

or like know about them at least

[radiant idol]

you can find them in header dumps

[ashen canyon]

just use Apple Wiki

💀

[radiant idol]

oh there we go

[ashen canyon]

my boy doin too much

[radiant idol]

I was trying to find it

couldn't find it

[ashen canyon]

brotha

[radiant idol]

I was rushing 😭

[patent hamlet]

in FLEXing?

[radiant idol]

@patent hamlet for private methods, I suggest this:

• first find it in the header, maybe on https://developer.limneos.net
• find it in FLEXing, mess around with it maybe
• look it up on github, somebody else may have already used that method and through their code you can understand what it does

[ashen canyon]

yes, but its much easier when looking at the actual header file
you can find them on a site like limneos (cynder's headers are down) or github dumps of headers
and then you can find instances of the class and mess around with things in FLEX or just simple test tweaks to figure out the basic functionality and work off of that

[radiant idol]

it's kind of hard to make an actual tutorial for tweak development because tweak dev is vastly different for everybody

so think of a tweak that you would find use out of, and make it

that's the best way to learn

imo

[patent hamlet]

yeah i just gotta experiment

i just dont know currently what to make

something simple

like a beginner project

[radiant idol]

yeah idk, experiment as much as possible

[ashen canyon]

nah fuck allat
nightwind give me a tweak idea

[radiant idol]

what is it

[ashen canyon]

no basic shit ong

[ashen canyon]

give me

[radiant idol]

oh I thought it said "gave" me

[ashen canyon]

(youre supposed to tell me)

[radiant idol]

ok uhhh

[ashen canyon]

were you also rushing when reading that?

[radiant idol]

sure

ok anyways

i have trauma from literally every part of iOS because ive tried to make a tweak in many different areas

[patent hamlet]

But for an example here, all these methods isMedusaCapable are all the same just used between different files which is displayed to the right or yeah modules or whatever, right?

[radiant idol]

try something with the status bar... maybe uhhhh add current ram usage there or something idk @ashen canyon

[radiant idol]

no, those aren't the same method - they're just named the same

they exist in different classes

[patent hamlet]

so they all have different code

[radiant idol]

yeah

apple loves to do weird stuff like that

[patent hamlet]

and your examples used the SBApplication.h

[radiant idol]

yeah

[patent hamlet]

so i'll take a look at that i guess

[cloud yacht]

If you need ideas you can try to recreate Eliza from scratch.

[patent hamlet]

just to get an idea

the search bar on limneos website is a little buggy ngl

[radiant idol]

yeah this isnt a bad project to do

[radiant idol]

that website is years old

but it's the main one we use

[patent hamlet]

static NSString * nsDomainString = @"com.wilsonthewolf.elizaprefrences";
static NSString * nsNotificationString = @"com.wilsonthewolf.eliza/preferences.changed";
static BOOL enabled;
static BOOL lpm;
static BOOL charging; 
static BOOL ring;

is this how to declare variables?

[radiant idol]

one of the ways, yes

static means the variables are scoped to only the file they're in, you can't access them from the outside

[patent hamlet]

what would i use to access them from the outside?

dynamic?

or something

[radiant idol]

no, just dont put anything

but you don't want that normally

[patent hamlet]

ok so just NSString

[radiant idol]

normally it's best to scope to files when possible

[patent hamlet]

yeah i guess

so i'll just use static BOOL enabled = YES;

[radiant idol]

using a lot of global vars isnt great

[patent hamlet]

does this assign enabled yes

[radiant idol]

yes

[patent hamlet]

ok i guess i get the assigning

but what does NSString * nsDomainString do

[radiant idol]

that's just a string

[patent hamlet]

you have to put asterisk to choose the name?

[radiant idol]

that's called a pointer

which.. those dont exist in python (they do, just under the hood)

[patent hamlet]

yeah but ill think of them as variables right?

they are the same in principle?

[radiant idol]

pointers? no

https://www.w3schools.com/c/c_pointers.php

here read this

it's pretty short

[patent hamlet]

aight

i should actually learn C before even getting into ios tweak development

to better understand objective-c and so on

i mean i've worked a little bit with C# but this isnt really exactly what i remember

[radiant idol]

if you learn objc, you'll pick up C as well with it

objc is built on top of C

any C code is valid objc*

[patent hamlet]

but i should learn objc before even getting into tweak development though

its like im rushing it

[radiant idol]

that's what I did

[patent hamlet]

like rushing clash of clans town hall instead of upgrading everything first

[patent hamlet]

oh

but it had to be hard in the beginning

[radiant idol]

I learnt objc as I went

[patent hamlet]

but extremely rewarding i guess

[radiant idol]

oh it was

yes

do you want to see some of my old code so you don't get discouraged

I still have it

[patent hamlet]

yeah

[radiant idol]

hold on

every time I open this file github has a meltdown

it goes like that for a 1000 lines

[patent hamlet]

damn

are there switch cases in objc

[patent hamlet]

instead of if statements

[native orbit]

yeah

[radiant idol]

yes, but only for numbers - for strings no

[patent hamlet]

oh

[native orbit]

false*

[radiant idol]

go away statur

we dont want to poison newbies with your code

[native orbit]

[radiant idol]

@patent hamlet

NULL;

to be clear - this does nothing

genuinely nothing

[native orbit]

iirc you can do that in swift if there is no other code in the func and it will return it 💀

[radiant idol]

L

[patent hamlet]

actually why not just create tweaks with swift

isnt it easier and better

or does it have its downsides

[radiant idol]

you can do that

but swift's not really designed to be used for tweaks

so a lot of things are more annoying to do than just using objc

[native orbit]

swift got to many issue to count

[radiant idol]

if you want to use swift for tweaks, go ahead - but there's also less swift tweaks available

so less things to reference

[patent hamlet]

oh ok

ill just stick to objc

[radiant idol]

I do have one though

if you want to see how it looks

https://github.com/NightwindDev/VisionSearchPill

my only swift tweak

[native orbit]

kicked from ono...

[radiant idol]

shut

[patent hamlet]

just looking at the swift code i can understand way more

its so tempting to just go for swift

[radiant idol]

go for it if you want

its just more annoying imo

[patent hamlet]

i'll have to cotinue tmr either way its 2 am local time for me dont wanna mess with my sleep schedule

but i'll watch some videos, read some guides and articles and stuff before starting to make it easier

and i'll have to come up with a project ide

but yeah goodnight y'all

[ashen canyon]

@radiant idol

#import <Foundation/Foundation.h>
#import <UIKit/UIKit.h>

@interface CCUIStatusBar : UIView
@property (nonatomic, strong) UILabel *memoryLabel;
- (void)update;
@end

CGFloat get_memory(void) {
    struct task_basic_info info;
    mach_msg_type_number_t size = TASK_BASIC_INFO_COUNT;
    task_info(mach_task_self(), TASK_BASIC_INFO, (task_info_t)&info, &size);
    return ((CGFloat)info.resident_size / 1048576);
}

%hook CCUIStatusBar
%property (nonatomic, strong) UILabel *memoryLabel;
- (id)initWithFrame:(CGRect)arg1 {
    self = %orig;

    self.memoryLabel = [[UILabel alloc] init];
    self.memoryLabel.textAlignment = NSTextAlignmentCenter;
    self.memoryLabel.text = [NSString stringWithFormat:@"%.2f MB", get_memory()];
    self.memoryLabel.textColor = [UIColor whiteColor];
    self.memoryLabel.font = [UIFont systemFontOfSize:15];
    self.memoryLabel.translatesAutoresizingMaskIntoConstraints = NO;
    [self addSubview:self.memoryLabel];

    NSDictionary *attributes = @{NSFontAttributeName: self.memoryLabel.font};
    CGSize size = [self.memoryLabel.text sizeWithAttributes:attributes];

    [NSLayoutConstraint activateConstraints:@[
        [self.memoryLabel.centerXAnchor constraintEqualToAnchor:self.centerXAnchor],
        [self.memoryLabel.centerYAnchor constraintEqualToAnchor:self.centerYAnchor],
        [self.memoryLabel.widthAnchor constraintEqualToConstant:(size.width + 20)],
        [self.memoryLabel.heightAnchor constraintEqualToConstant:(size.height + 10)]
    ]];

    [NSTimer scheduledTimerWithTimeInterval:1.0 target:self selector:@selector(update) userInfo:nil repeats:YES];

    return self;
}

%new
- (void)update {
    self.memoryLabel.text = [NSString stringWithFormat:@"%.2f MB", get_memory()];
}

%end

[radiant idol]

that was fast

wow

nice job

[ashen canyon]

add subview, update subview every second

🤯

[radiant idol]

lgtm

[gentle grove]

Do they know about !=

[hasty ruin]

(it's his code)

[gentle grove]

So no

[radiant idol]

this is 3 year old code

[hasty ruin]

[gentle grove]

didn't know you started programming from toddler age

[radiant idol]

man

[hasty ruin]

wait till he realises you have three kids

[young meteor]

he got busy fast

didn't know 6yo can have kids

[native orbit]

i heard its 5 now actually

[pearl sail]

I heard it is 20 now actually

[sonic totem]

He named one Nexus 🥰

[slender glade]

@grim sparrow do u think UIViewController feels like it's getting topped when u call presentViewController: animated: within it

[grim sparrow]

Yes

[slender glade]

it's gotta feel sooo good like imagine being a VC and suddenly there's a UINavigationViewController with another vc on it on top

[grim sparrow]

We have got to get you laid

[gaunt helm]

fr

[slender glade]

I mean I wouldn't mind

[lusty jacinth]

@radiant idol is there a way to make your c function hook detector thingamabob scan all your installed tweaks?

Ik you said it may not be accurate but is that possible

[kind herald]

thingamabob

[gentle grove]

https://x.com/d_feldman/status/1806079491833270773?s=46

Daniel Feldman 🟥 (@d_feldman) on X

Massive JS library compromised

Twitter · Jun 26, 2024, 9:38 PM

[slender glade]

@grim sparrow which Foundation class would be transgender? gotta be NSTask imo

i love tagging this woman with this nonsense so much

[grim sparrow]

What on earth goes through your mind

[slender glade]

we have too many messages for u to not know

[radiant idol]

Idk do something with gut script

[wise spruce]

using os ?

[manic forum]

call object_setClass and any object can be trans

[slender glade]

I thought this notif was from Amy I got excited

That’s true though

[manic forum]

sorry

[slender glade]

it’s ok just don’t do it again

holy fuckkkkkk using discord on this phone is so bad

I need to open the app switcher to read anything

Because only the top right of the screen works

[manic forum]

What did you do

[slender glade]

what did my SISTER do mf

We got into a fight about who should do the dishes first and she took it a bit extreme

in fairness it was also about who should wipe the bathrooms first too

[granite frigate]

chat how do i theoretically make malware for macos

feeling a little whimsy today

[slender glade]

background running process that sends user’s data and randomly opens pop up’s

[granite frigate]

gonna think of the whole shebang

keystroke logging, random sounds, mic and camera streaming

[wooden yarrow]

i once made a apple script that would open all apps on the system that it can find

[manic forum]

File plugin thing that overrides image file preview images and randomly swaps them around

[wooden yarrow]

that is erm

spyware

i guess malware is a umbrella term but

[granite frigate]

ok less malicious ig uhh

[manic forum]

So you have A.png and B.png but the preview for A.png shows B.png and vice versa

[granite frigate]

everytime you download 5mb you have to win a game of chess to receive it

[wooden yarrow]

anyways i think this would be pretty hard to do in modern macOS without all of the privacy features activating

[hasty ruin]

Calling in an expert

@grave sparrow

[granite frigate]

hopefully theres a way to disable the camera indicator

tr

[wooden yarrow]

on macOS nah it's hardware completely

not managed by software

[granite frigate]

wtf

[slender glade]

Keystroke is sort of hard for global ones

Because you need accessibility permissions for those

[slim bramble]

I don't think it's even possible

[slender glade]

Where there’s a will there’s a way

[wooden yarrow]

this is a tangent but why did they name key presses "keystrokes" anyways

who strokes their keys

[granite frigate]

who up stroking their keys

by stroking i mean. jorking it

[slim bramble]

🤨

[hasty ruin]

probably this guy

[slim bramble]

Wtf

😭

[granite frigate]

bro?

[clear iron]

development getting freaky today

[slim bramble]

Andrew ⁉️

[wooden yarrow]

#rootfsForBanned

[slim bramble]

[hasty ruin]

Censorship

[slim bramble]

🔥

[slender glade]

@grim sparrow you cannot call my thoughts weird ever again

[slim bramble]

@radiant idol

🤨

[hasty ruin]

(yes she can)

[wooden yarrow]

your thoughts are weird in a different way

[slender glade]

Mm no she can’t

[slender glade]

they’re not weird

[slim bramble]

lies

[slender glade]

They transcend your understanding

Lmfaoo I saw that

[slim bramble]

You're in ONO anyways

[slender glade]

Nah, I’m up

[slim bramble]

[slender glade]

Only if she says so

[slim bramble]

[cloud yacht]

I got gir'ed

[slim bramble]

Me too

Can't tell icraze a 3 letter acronym

[cloud yacht]

Litteraly 194

[slim bramble]

Litteraly 198

[grim sparrow]

.

[slender glade]

what type of freak would say such a horny thing right 🙄

[frail cedar]

what are y'all up to

is nightwind being silly again

[frail cedar]

i believe it was a leftover from typewriters

because pressing a key on an older typewriter mechanically moved a lever to type a letter

and then cause keyboards kept the layout typewriters used terminology got carried over too

[wooden yarrow]

hm but

how is that a

stroke

[frail cedar]

stroke of the lever

like the action of pressing the key to the arm moving to hit the paper was a stroke

mechanical term i believe

[wooden yarrow]

hm

[frail cedar]

remember that like 20 words have been hornified that did not used to be

if not more i do not care to check

[slender glade]

I type so often you can call me a striker

[hasty ruin]

@slender glade .

[cloud yacht]

Cursed

[frail cedar]

somehow i got >2x the messages you do

[frail cedar]

probably a good thing dms don't have this feature

[clear iron]

You had me freaking out after I saw they had no roles

Thought I was going insane

[frail cedar]

clem

[clear iron]

🙏

[gaunt helm]

clemente protocol

[radiant sedge]

is there any reason why you guys think repos like bigboss haven't tried to push for something like IPFS to be implemented within package managers to reduce the overall maintenance and server costs associated with continuing to host popular jailbreak tweak repositories for many years into the future

[native orbit]

optimo still goated for keeping it going as long as he has

[hasty ruin]

fr

and adding a package to bigboss is a surprisngly manual process on his end

[gentle grove]

People think ipfs is magic

it's just a super inefficient and shitty way to store data publicly

it would be cheaper, better, and more reliable to store on something normal, like we already do

[gentle grove]

IPFS would make everything worse

[vivid dew]

what if we incentivize it by giving out tokens with no value

[native dune]

ipfs is cool too bad it sucks

imagine a jailbreak repo as a torrent

[hasty ruin]

That’s how I got ding

[native dune]

erm actually the license allows redistribution

[hasty ruin]

I never said it didn’t

[cloud yacht]

Also to properly use ipfs, you would need to modify apt to work with it which would be a lot of work, and would probably cause issues for a while until everything is distributed (assuming you could get bootstrap maintainers to merge your changes)

[shrewd smelt]

that's why it needs to be done

[marble perch]

Fuck cdns. All my homies use weird shit

[gentle grove]

ipfs is cool too bad information theory exists

[faint timber]

lmao I put my headset down and it hits + then enter

[gentle grove]

oh I thought you were just saying +1 lmao

[faint timber]

I use a fake cdn anyway

just a subdomain that leads to the same server

[gentle grove]

makes that a cd

cds

Content Delivery Node

[visual meadow]

anyone know how to load SafariSavedPasswordsController in the MobileSafariSettings preference bundle

or something like that

i think the passwords menu in settings is there

[wooden yarrow]

password stealer :/

[torn oriole]

Nathanware :/

[visual meadow]

I want to make a seperate app wdym bro

[kind herald]

token logger :/

[visual meadow]

bro please help i just want to make a separate password app like ios 18

[wooden yarrow]

i think it would be funny if you RE'd the password app

(it's written in Swift)

[visual meadow]

The goal here is to simply load the passwords view in a different app

[torn oriole]

I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if it was specifically protected against such

[visual meadow]

Rn its only loading the safari settings

i need the password part

[lean ermine]

app that makes a keychain request for every password you have saved

lol

[wooden yarrow]

with the prerequisite of having a jailbreak you could probably get the right entitlements to allow it

[cloud yacht]

Just like take tweak settings, then only load the password page

[slender glade]

I think they bragged about it being SwiftUI?

[shrewd smelt]

aren't all of the new ios apps swiftui at this point

[slender glade]

no idea about the others

but the new macOS settings for example is SwiftUI

and it's really really bad

I like SwiftUI but jesus what an unneeded re-write

[shrewd smelt]

they made ios settings worse too imo

stuff like safari shouldn't be hidden in apps

[slender glade]

Preferences.app on iOS is never gonna be re-written from objc it'd break sm stuff

[shrewd smelt]

good we don't need the ios 11 equivalent of settings app

[slender glade]

I think all this re-writing stuff is just result of company policy

as a way to show-off but it results in worse UX

[shrewd smelt]

hurry up and get hired so you can make the apps less shit and hide kanye references in them

[slender glade]

I think i told you but I got 2 references from ex-apple employees

but the costs prevented a summer internship from happening there

[shrewd smelt]

[slender glade]

they give you 1000$ for relocation but that barely covers the plane ticket

[shrewd smelt]

jeez

[slender glade]

the ticket is like 1200

and they don't do remote

but eh idrc rn anyway

[wooden yarrow]

this is true

[placid kraken]

@slender glade

[slender glade]

very interesting video rosie. i like towers too

[wooden yarrow]

the first second of this video played then my discord client crashed

malware

[slender glade]

@grim sparrow JavaScript is the Python of programming languages if you think about it

[grim sparrow]

[wooden yarrow]

this is like those times when people say that a country in Asia is like the "Singapore of Asia"

[slender glade]

wait but they're kinda true tho

[acoustic imp]

Anyone know this dev, SquidForce ?

[hasty ruin]

Yes

[acoustic imp]

Do they have discord ?

[lean ermine]

everything new in ios is swift

[hasty ruin]

Idk I lied

[hasty ruin]

Explains the alfiecg username

[slender glade]

gay is a compliment not an insult anymore

[slender glade]

accessorysetupkit is objective-c

[hasty ruin]

alfiecg would disagree

(tory)

[lean ermine]

[slender glade]

@sonic totem ur a tory?

[hasty ruin]

You can tell by his full name…

[sonic totem]

Yes please take iCraze’s word for it

[slender glade]

i'm being serious rn dawg 😭

don't tell me this is how i find out my goat fell off

[hasty ruin]

😦

[slender glade]

shut up bitch

[hasty ruin]

????

[sonic totem]

Do you even know what a Tory is

Lmfao

[slender glade]

conservative

[sonic totem]

Hmm

Fair enough

[slender glade]

my bad if ur not one im bad at sarcasm

[sonic totem]

Lmfao all good

I mean I can’t even vote yet

So 🔥🔥

And never listen to iCraze

[hasty ruin]

[wooden yarrow]

wait how old are you

[hasty ruin]

average non Brit

[hasty ruin]

17

[sonic totem]

17

[wooden yarrow]

oh

[sonic totem]

How old did you think lol

[wooden yarrow]

16

[sonic totem]

I was 16 when CoreTrust bug

[wooden yarrow]

oh

hm

[worn briar]

Hello developers of rjb,

I am writing to you again to follow up on my previous message to check for any updates.

Best wishes,
Mynamejeff

[hasty ruin]

Apple developer site should have xcode beta builds

[worn briar]

Dear Icraze,

Thank you for your prompt response. I will look into your recommendations and let you know how it goes.

Sincerely,
Jef

[hasty ruin]

🤝

[wooden yarrow]

bro get Xcodes

https://www.xcodes.app/

[worn briar]

Plx,

I appreciate the insight, though I request next time you please be more professional in your response to my messages.

Regards,
Jif

[wooden yarrow]

bro where the fuck did my message go

[granite frigate]

1984

[weary heath]

+1

[blazing warren]

+2

[manic forum]

+3

[radiant idol]

+4

[visual meadow]

+5

[quaint rain]

+6 (I have never opened Xcode in my life)

[kind herald]

+7

[manic forum]

+8 (Huge W)

[native dune]

+9 (based)

[blazing warren]

+10

[fading shell]

+11

[shrewd smelt]

+12 (meow)

[radiant idol]

+13 (nebula's a furry)

[slender glade]

+14 (please stop sucking each other's cocks)

[fading shell]

+15 (Never)

[native dune]

+16 (nightwind goes by she/her and is a furry etc etc)

[fading shell]

+18 (Buy Jade)

[radiant idol]

+19 (Glance is good)

[radiant sedge]

i'm not saying it's magic (referring to IPFS) -- the underlying idea is to allow packages to be stored in a decentralized manner that would massively alleviate the requirements of these big repositories to maintain and serve large amounts of data

which could also allow other developers/maintainers in the jailbreak community to contribute by helping host these files and doesn't mean that the repos (e.g. bigboss) themselves would have to necessarily get rid of their copies of the data immediately (and that wouldn't be a good thing either)

the main point would be to ensure that the community has an opportunity to continue helping these important repositories remain operational without putting too much burden on the current centralized maintainers of these repos

to respond to other counterarguments:

• a majority of it could be built as a community effort, with maintainers needing to only do minimum work to upload files & modify the repository Packages file
• the incentive for people hosting nodes for these files is to support the jailbreak community that they themselves consume content from
• debian APT has mechanisms for custom transports that could be provided alongside traditional HTTP communication (see: https://blog.cloudflare.com/apt-transports , https://github.com/cloudflare/apt-transport-cloudflared )

[pearl sail]

+20 (Aaron Smells)

[native dune]

i aint reading allat

[fading shell]

+22 (this isn’t politics)

[radiant sedge]

@grave sparrow @native orbit @hasty ruin@vivid dew@native dune pinging others involved in the discussion about IPFS

[radiant idol]

😭

[pearl sail]

Rule 11

[fading shell]

Lol

[timid furnace]

💀

[radiant sedge]

sigh

lol

[frail cedar]

why did metal have like 0 features

[radiant sedge]

thanks for the unmute ❤️

[frail cedar]

in el capitan

what

[hasty ruin]

I just dmed rick

[frail cedar]

you couldnt do shit with metal in el cap 😭

[radiant idol]

I just DM'd your boss to get you fired

[frail cedar]

apple didnt have a way for you to get like any GPU info other than "what metal feature set does it support?" (it's 10000 that was the only option)

[fading shell]

So 5 is too much apparently

[frail cedar]

Internet Protocol File System

idfk

[hasty ruin]

I’m self employed brother

[pearl sail]

His mom is not going to fire him but she will suck my dick

[radiant idol]

.

[timid furnace]

you're trying to solve something that isn't broken imo

[hasty ruin]

apfs but freaky

[hasty ruin]

can you tldr it

[manic forum]

Harder Drive: Hard drives we didn't want or need

[radiant sedge]

fair -- just a proposal for something that could possibly be a nice idea

[frail cedar]

im still sad about the covid test one

i wanted to see that

[timid furnace]

use IPFS for big repo, reduce need for big centralized data storage

[hasty ruin]

I wonder how big BigBoss even is

main thing is obviously gonna be themes

[radiant sedge]

i think applying all the current criticism that IPFS receives to this idea isn't a good way to look at it since i feel like usually IPFS is associated with all the web3 people who try to talk about decentralizing the web without any actual practical benefits

[native dune]

web3 these nuts

[manic forum]

same, but that one was absurd even compared to the other ones in the video

[native dune]

this is actually an interesting idea i dont think it would work in practice though

[radiant sedge]

why not?

[radiant idol]

this community is tiny nowdays

[native dune]

Wouldn’t you need an ipfs daemon running on each device

[radiant idol]

that idea, no mattter how good, is not likely to be implemented

[slender glade]

what's the idea

[radiant sedge]

could still provide IPFS via HTTP gateways

[slender glade]

i haven't caught up

[native dune]

Yeah but then you need a centralized http gateway

[radiant sedge]

not sure how lightweight IPFS is clientside to know whether thats viable

[native orbit]

lets switch all repos to physical media like early netflix

[manic forum]

why are we trying to fix a system that works

[native dune]

Which kind of defeats the purpose

Yeah

[radiant sedge]

the point is that these could be owned by other parties than the actual repo maintainer

offloading all that responsibility

i think IPFS is lightweight enough to run as a client on an iOS device though

[native dune]

Procursus kind of does that, they sign the entire repo then have an rsync host

So ppl can make mirrors

[radiant sedge]

that's a good idea although the ipfs idea would still have the repo maintainer host the Packages json with package checksums and stuff

to prevent malicious behavior

[hasty ruin]

Ding on ipfs

[native dune]

Nexus on soulseek

[radiant sedge]

im just discussing it

it was an interesting idea that came to my mind

so i brought it up for discourse not for it to really be implemented lol (unless someone has enough interest to do it)

[slender glade]

interesting idea i just think it's mostly un-needed

very much a JS mentality

everything works and we have the capacity for stuff rn

and it's not like this community is getting bigger?

[radiant sedge]

ya

i guess it could be an idea once all the current community maintainers nope out of here like saurik

unless new people take it over 🙏

[slender glade]

new ppl are always going to take over

the issue is that jailbreaking is fundamentally dying

[pearl sail]

^

[radiant sedge]

agreed

[native dune]

I’m glad it is

[slender glade]

thousands are leaving and barely any are joining

[slender glade]

me too lol but i will cherish it

[radiant sedge]

because it isnt nearly as practical as it used to be

[native dune]

Jailbreaking is great for sideloading that’s it

[slender glade]

yeah like if i have to stay 2/3 versions behind mainline to get features that'll be in a newer version

[radiant sedge]

at this point might as well get a apple dev account

[frail cedar]

thats what i did

[pearl sail]

Not practical, not much money, and not enough interest

[frail cedar]

i like my procursus strap tho

[manic forum]

jailbreaking died for me the moment iSH came out

[native dune]

I just pay $9 a year for maplesign

[manic forum]

and also Delta now

what else could one need

[native dune]

I just wish sideloaded apps supported deep links

Like if you have Twitter sideloaded and you go to x.com it’ll open the Twitter app

[pearl sail]

Losing root also kinda ruined a lot of jailbreakers interest I assume as well

[radiant sedge]

would you say sideloading is a growing community then

[native dune]

It has been for a couple years yes

[manic forum]

judging from many posts on r/jailbreak, I doubt a majority of users understand what the difference between rootless/rootful is

[radiant sedge]

all the stuff around dev cert revokes stunts its possible growth though

[manic forum]

but the transition from rootful to rootless wasn't exactly great

[radiant sedge]

probably the loss of compatibility with their favorite abandoned tweaks

[native dune]

Dev certs don’t really get revoked

[radiant sedge]

alongside developer dissatisfaction

[native dune]

Enterprise certs do

[radiant sedge]

publicly used ones do

[pearl sail]

I meant more as developers not as users, but yeah I doubt they noticed

[native dune]

Not really

I’ve been on multiple resold certs and none of them revoked

[slender glade]

it couldn't have

[radiant sedge]

i used to use sideloading services before and they'd get revoked

[slender glade]

we frankly did the best we could

[radiant sedge]

maybe their risk management practices are subpar

[timid furnace]

Damn
Rootless 0.13GB
Rootful 10.78GB

[radiant sedge]

not sure what the rules are around sideloading services so i don't want to break the rules naming

[slender glade]

wow this is kind of depressing

lol

[timid furnace]

tbf

[radiant sedge]

what repo?

[timid furnace]

bigboss

[radiant sedge]

wow

[slender glade]

yeah it's depressing how it's fallen off

[radiant sedge]

i thought bigboss packages took more space

[slender glade]

someone should graph that

[timid furnace]

how many people are putting their rootless packages on bigboss

[slender glade]

fair

[radiant sedge]

10GB total bigboss packages

[hasty ruin]

What if you filter out non-tweaks

[radiant sedge]

lol

[pearl sail]

Agree with no standard options and pre planning it was kinda destined to go this way

[ashen canyon]

rootful means i have to root my phone for it to work
rootless means i dont have to root my phone for it to work

[slender glade]

okay buddy

[native dune]

Lol

[slender glade]

Yeah like i can;t think of a better way this could've been done

[timid furnace]

damn this means i'm gonna have to write a parser then

hold on

[native dune]

I remember when bigboss rootless first released

[hasty ruin]

Should’ve done it properly the first time around

[native dune]

There was like 5 packages

[hasty ruin]

[native dune]

Bigboss but clean 🙏

[ashen canyon]

MediumSizedBoss

[pearl sail]

Only way was for people to work together, but that ship sailed so long ago it was just basically nailing a coffin when SSV got introduced

[slender glade]

flamingo buddy we should just give you the orange role

[ashen canyon]

nah lowkey, legacy bigboss would be 🔥
tweaks that are for like iOS 3-9 be thrown in there
purge from main repo n then main repo wont have as much bulk

[hasty ruin]

Xina kinda fucked the rootless transition single-handedly

[ashen canyon]

i could get dev role i just dont have any ideas on what to make 💀

certifiable developer ngl

[manic forum]

minesweeper lock screen

you have to complete a 10x10 minesweeper board to unlock

[ashen canyon]

j the game on the ls?
or like in place of the passcode and if you win it unlocks

[manic forum]

the latter

[ashen canyon]

mhm

[manic forum]

if you hit a bomb it deletes /var and reboots

[hasty ruin]

I prefer parcility

[slender glade]

what version y'all think devs r gonna actually tap out of making tweaks

i can't make a poll so

[granite frigate]

now

[slender glade]

but imo like