development

[kind herald]

Wtf why is it not working

[reef trail]

cos you smell

[kind herald]

:(

[hasty ruin]

[kind herald]

Does my code look right

[hasty ruin]

Nah

[kind herald]

What's wrong with it

[reef trail]

you forgot a semi colon

[kind herald]

Oh

Ok

[reef trail]

after the meow

[kind herald]

What about now

[reef trail]

lgtm

[kind herald]

Worked. Thank you developers.

[slate isle]

does anyone know how to use locsim with gpx

keeps failinf for me

*failoing

[orchid fulcrum]

Can't argue with that

[reef trail]

what

[primal perch]

turn 3

[sonic totem]

Average git experience

[tepid olive]

imo git is actually ok for the most part

everyone uses it incorrectly

eg squash commits

[reef trail]

i’ve never needed to squash

i group things with prs most of the time

[placid kraken]

whats wrong with squash???

some people make like a billion commits in their pr

it would be foolish to merge each commit unsquashed into upstream

squashing it helps it stay more organized imo

[reef trail]

merging prs squashes anyway iirc

on gh it does at least

[tepid olive]

icraze integer overflow

[gentle grove]

a lot of repos I see ask you to rebase your PR so they can be merged

look at commit history on https://github.com/positiv/isso for example

[gentle grove]

Only if you pick it to

it doesn't squash by default unless you picked squash the last time you merged a PR

[reef trail]

i must’ve just checked that once and it’s always been like that

[gentle grove]

if you click the dropdown next to merge you can see all the options

including rebase which no one has picked on purpose before

[spare zinc]

how do I fix this?

[spare zinc]

this chat is dead

[kind herald]

Ok

[torn oriole]

install libtool

and make sure automake, autoconf, aclocal and m4 are installed as well

[spare zinc]

also, how do I install aclocal

[tepid olive]

It’s part of auto tools

[spare zinc]

but how do I install it

[tepid olive]

it's part of automake in homebrew

[faint timber]

No one has compile more tihmware than me even tihmstar himeself hasn’t even compiled his own tools as much as me

[tepid olive]

i've compiled my own distro 😮

[tepid olive]

lfs?

[tepid olive]

not exactly

[faint timber]

why exactly do you need to compile tihmware

[wooden yarrow]

does this mean you have a way of building tihmware without any problems

[faint timber]

literally since 2021

but even before that too

[wooden yarrow]

is it docker

or that CI shell script

[faint timber]

I have my own procursus build system written in python

no I won't release it cuz its bad and it was for myself

[wooden yarrow]

damn

[faint timber]

I build linux in docker on top of vmare on mac I build windows in msys2

[wooden yarrow]

guess it's still time for me to update all dependencies manually

[native orbit]

timhstar when stdbool exist:

[wooden yarrow]

i hate libgeneral

[faint timber]

I hate it all

luckily my new tools are only touching opaware

[wooden yarrow]

i am of the belief the only based thing tihmstar has done is e77f3e9c5e6c00086aa7b68e58994a639cc360d6027c90b53eb8b3b015f72f56

[faint timber]

what repo is that

[wooden yarrow]

none

[faint timber]

ah

gotcha

[pine holly]

Can we all switch to MRYIPC on iOS 15/16. We always use different tools

We need to stick to one

L1ghtmann made rootless fork

Working on a tweak with it rn

[queen ruin]

Yeah I was gonna ask if there was even an official rootless one yet

[dense basin]

what’s the difference between Neko and dopa?

[sonic totem]

Dopamine is better

[faint stag]

you're supposed to work smarter, not harder

like wow
writing your own xpc services just to eliminate one dependency

[slender glade]

unironically a good tradeoff

[wooden yarrow]

MRYIPC's last commit was 3 years ago

hm

[faint stag]

i still fail to see how having an ipc library is a bad thing

[slender glade]

we should all use distributed notifs instead

[faint stag]

(that isn't rocketbootstrap)

[faint stag]

yeah because last time muirey used it was for cr4shed and that never became rootless

#development message

[wooden yarrow]

hm is it still worth using a 3 yr lib then

which could potentially just die with a release of a new jb

because xpcs sure ain't going away

[slender glade]

bro doesn't know abt RBPC 😭

[wooden yarrow]

I have no idea what that is yes

[slender glade]

neither do I bc I made that up

[wooden yarrow]

wtf

[faint stag]

didn't we just say it was forked with rootless support

[wooden yarrow]

hate u fr nfr

[faint stag]

it's not a complex library either

man

[wooden yarrow]

you did not

[faint stag]

we

[faint stag]

.

[wooden yarrow]

that message did not get processed in my head

cool

[faint stag]

that's unlikely too
how are you going to even use a daemon without xpc

lmao

launchd handles all the communication while at the same time handling services/daemons themselves

[slender glade]

nah, i'd win

[steady nest]

unless launchd keeps you in the prison realm

[worthy mulch]

What do you guys usually do for on-device debugging? Frida really isn’t a debugger
Is there anything like gdb?

I don’t have a Mac device, and tbh, really don’t want to use one except over ssh

[radiant idol]

lldb

[opal ridge]

@lime pivot where's the plains package.swift

[lime pivot]

bro I haven’t worked on that in like 2 years

[opal ridge]

@slender glade

[slender glade]

hello

[lime pivot]

hi

[worthy mulch]

Thank you!

[opal ridge]

@lime pivot @slender glade okay nevermind neither sileo or zebra wants to work on mac now

[slender glade]

😃

[opal ridge]

😭

[lime pivot]

awesome

there's honestly probably a debug build somewhere in this server if you search for it

idk how far behind main it'll be

you can at least somewhat browse around with it, Sources and Installed tabs are implemented

[pine holly]

We could update it. It has been already by piracy repo’s I believe

Personal skill issue

Not wanting to learn more about that already shitty language

Filthy language

I feel like a whore as I type Objective-C, it’s painful

[radiant idol]

Objective-C ftw

also xpc is in C I think lol

[hasty ruin]

if you learnt more, you'd realise that objective-c is actually a great language and is super powerful

🗣️🔥🔥

[pine holly]

You are right I think

[radiant idol]

me when i try to work with pointers in swift

[pine holly]

The issue isn’t the language really itself. It’s the relationship between me and the language

[hasty ruin]

[faint stag]

well yeah, frida isn't a debugger, it's for introspection
poking into things
you're looking for something along the lines of lldb (which requires debugserver installed on the target device)

[frail cedar]

It is

Sort of

there's 3 ways to use it

• c type mach XPC
• objc/swift type mach XPC
• objc/swift type XPC bundle

[pine holly]

Hell no 😭

Get that shit out

[wind ravine]

i need to reprogram my whole tweak bc i initially wrote the important part in swift and that no longer works on ios 16+ for some reason

[placid kraken]

swift syntax <<<<

swift primitives <<<<

swift ui <<<<<<

swift <<<<<<<

the look and feel of apps in swift >>>> objc

[slim bramble]

Rewrite it in objc

[slim bramble]

Then you account for objc syntax

[orchid fulcrum]

Objc syntax is alright imo

[slim bramble]

Once you get used to it

[orchid fulcrum]

Right

[placid kraken]

i like objc syntax yeah

it’s like self-commenting code on steroids

[wind ravine]

objc is ugly

[placid kraken]

compared to swift syntax i disagree

[wind ravine]

swift isnt that bad

but look at it compared to basuc C

[slender glade]

objc syntax is not ugly in any sense besides blocks but why do you guys never show whatever swift syntax you found ugly

it's the most plain language to ever exist in terms of syntax

the 1 exception is adding 50 different keywords to result builders for DSL stuff but you can also make objc look ugly with block syntax

[worthy mulch]

but LLDB needs the xcode sdk, is it possible to get that on Linux?

[slender glade]

class RandomClass {
  static let shared = RandomClass()

  var someProperty: String? = nil

  func doX() { 
    print("Hello")

    if let someProperty {
      // do stuff with said property
    }
  }
}

struct DataModel: Codable {
  let name: String
  let address: String
  let age: Int
}

This is more or less like 60-70% of all Swift code you'll see and like call me crazy and all but it looks just ok in terms of syntax

[slender glade]

you can't build it on Linux with some standard SDK?

@worthy mulch https://lldb.llvm.org/resources/build.html

[worthy mulch]

nah, since it seems to want the xcode sdk

i’m going to try with darling

but at what point would it be a better time investment to just give up and use a mac? I absolutely hate their keyboards and trackpads and life choices, but they aren’t miserable to use once the terminal is open

and would probably be not awful if I only had to interact with it over ssh

lldb gives the error just after I select the remote-ios platform

[placid kraken]

i need to remember to make elle types lowercase

capitalized types look so weird

[radiant idol]

block syntax tho

pain

[placid kraken]

block syntax is such a cool idea

[radiant idol]

you can use lldb on-device fyi

you can install it on your phone and then ssh into the phone and use it on your pc's terminal

[orchid fulcrum]

What is block syntax ? The stuff with @ that needs to have an @end at the finish ?

[radiant idol]

no

[placid kraken]

no

the [] thing

[radiant idol]

no

[orchid fulcrum]

no

[radiant idol]

umm how do I even explain it

http://goshdarnblocksyntax.com

this stupid stuff

[placid kraken]

OH

i know what you mean

someFuction(true, false, 1, sizeof(int)); // hard to read

[someClass someFunction:true shouldExplodeDevice:false usersConnected:1 memoryLeakSize:sizeof(int)] // easier to read

not this but

this is one thing i like about objc

[radiant idol]

swift has the same thing

but that's not block syntax

[placid kraken]

this

imp_implementationWithBlock(^(id self, SEL _cmd) {
    UIColor *originalColor = originalColorWithCGColor(self, _cmd);
    
    // Disable tintColor in google services
    if ([[[NSBundle mainBundle] bundleIdentifier] hasPrefix:@"com.google"] && [name isEqualToString:@"tintColor"]) {
        return originalColor;
    }

    if ([name isEqualToString:@"whiteColor"] && ![preferences boolForKey:@"whiteColorEnabled"]) {
        return originalColor;
    }

    if ([[preferences objectForKey:@"mode"] isEqualToString:@"Simple"]) {
        return [Utilities simpleColorWithIndex:index preferences:preferences originalColor:originalColor];
    }

    // It's necessary to use NSUserDefaults instead of GcColorPickerUtils here
    // so that we can take advantage of libSandy for the preferences
    NSString *originalColorHex = [Utilities hexStringFromColor:originalColor];
    NSString *colorFromDefaults = [preferences objectForKey:name] ?: originalColorHex;
    UIColor *parsedColor = [Utilities colorFromHexString:colorFromDefaults];

    return parsedColor;
}),

[radiant idol]

yes

[orchid fulcrum]

I think i never used this 💀

[radiant idol]

someFunction(true, shouldExplodeDevice:false, usersConnected:1, memoryLeakSize:MemoryLayout<Int>.size)

[placid kraken]

its a way to pass essentially a lambda function around

[radiant idol]

whatever it is in swift

i think its size(of:

[placid kraken]

no its not about the keyword arguments

[radiant idol]

yeah ik

[placid kraken]

the [] syntax feels more contained idk how to explain it

[radiant idol]

i was just showing that swift also has that

[placid kraken]

oh ok

[radiant idol]

idk how to do sizeof(int) in swift

[placid kraken]

i also dont know how the fuck im gonna implement sizeof in elle

[radiant idol]

apparently it is MemoryLayout<Int>.size

[placid kraken]

its a compile time operation, i dont have access to the size of structs that C creates in the c ffi

skulley~2

[radiant idol]

have fun!

[placid kraken]

i can do it relatively easy for stuff that is defined in elle but like imagine a file pointer returned by fdopen

how the fuck do i get the size of that

despair~3

[slender glade]

no

[placid kraken]

yeah i know

[slender glade]

kinda different from sizeof

[radiant idol]

Then how do you do it in swift

[slender glade]

give me one second im finding the article

[placid kraken]

sweet sweet lowercase types

fn add(int size, ...) {
    int res = 0;
    variadic args[size];
    defer free(args);

    for _ = 0 to size - 1 {
        res += args yield int;
    }

    return res;
}

pub fn main() {
    int res = add.(1, 2, 3, 4);
    printf!("%d\n", res);
    return 0;
}

[radiant idol]

func

Please

Not fn

[placid kraken]

you know what

i will make it any variation of function in order

[slender glade]

@radiant idol ah nvm it's the same after 3

[radiant idol]

Let’s gooo

[placid kraken]

fn will work, func will work, fun will work, function will work

[radiant idol]

👍

[radiant idol]

And do public too

[placid kraken]

fucon will.. also work

[radiant idol]

I finally broke Rosie

[placid kraken]

what in the same way

[slender glade]

it looks ugly because they put newlines at the wrong places but otherwise it's just GKAccessPoint.shared.observe(\.frameInScreenCoordinates) { ... }

[placid kraken]

where it will work for any variation as long as the characters are in order

[radiant idol]

Why is there a \

[placid kraken]

i recall a joke programming language having this functionality

but i think it could actually be a cool thing to implement

[slender glade]

it's the way KeyPaths are referenced

they're actually very pretty when used correctly which they are 90% of the time

[slender glade]

which index type?

it differs based on the collection

also you are not supposed to do that at all for Strings

like there's a reason why it's not allowed to just do it straight up

[placid kraken]

no the whole point is like why is it so complicated to get the index of a substring in a string

also syntax like this is so hard to read coming from like any other language

var result: [Range<Index>] = []
var startIndex = self.startIndex
while startIndex < endIndex,
    let range = self[startIndex...]
        .range(of: string, options: options) {
        result.append(range)
        startIndex = range.lowerBound < range.upperBound ? range.upperBound :
            index(range.lowerBound, offsetBy: 1, limitedBy: endIndex) ?? endIndex
}
return result

[slender glade]

you do not need to do that at all LOL

this is the most disengenious example i've ever seen in my life omg

[placid kraken]

who decided stride was a good name??

[slender glade]

? idk it's normal

[radiant idol]

this is psychotic

[slender glade]

nobody writes swift like that

if the standard of syntax quality was SO answers i'm pretty sure we'd have disowned like 80% of programming langs

[placid kraken]

fair enough

one other thing that annoys me is array.index(of: element) instead of array.indexOf(element) but this is just personal preference

that whole idea of cutting off the function name and then putting the rest of it as a keyword argument

[radiant idol]

ok THAT annoys me

[slender glade]

this allows for a lot of useful cases

allows you to have index(of:) to find a specific element, and index(where:) where you can pass an anoymous function that returns a bool

[frail cedar]

it makes sense in the context of xcode autocomplete

index(
autofills all possible continuations

it also fixes a weird quirk of objc that annoyed me, the first argument not having a name when being called

functionNameGoesHere:arg1 name2:arg2

no name1

[soft ether]

is there a way to place breakpoints on an ios app that's been sideloaded? i lack the source code

if it's possible to do so on an app deployed to an app store that'd be preferrable but from what i know that's not possible, hence i ask about a sideloaded copy

[weary heath]

Install debugserver on the device, attach it to the app then connect to it through lldb

You can disassemble it and set breakpoints on instructions by adding the address + aslr slide

[orchid fulcrum]

Has anybody used lldb on windows or wsl ?

[slim bramble]

To do what ?

[orchid fulcrum]

Debug apps

[slim bramble]

iOS apps ?

[orchid fulcrum]

Yeah

[slim bramble]

There is a ping here

[orchid fulcrum]

Sorry ? Not a native speaker. What i want to do is is to debug apps without a mac

[slim bramble]

Mb I meant ping

Lemme find it

[spare zinc]

reverse engineering

[faint timber]

There are better options

pyimg4 img4lib and blacktop ipsw

[native orbit]

ipsw goated

[slim bramble]

Fr

[soft ether]

this reinspired me to try jailbreaking my phone again (i can't jailbreak with chimera cos the home button's broken) and it worked first try ha, will give this stuff a shot once i get properly set up

[gentle grove]

"WatchTube" requires a provisioning profile.
Select a provisioning profile in the Signing & Capabilities editor.

[gentle grove]

do you know how to help make an unsigned ipa

[wooden yarrow]

can't u like

CODE_SIGN_IDENTITY="" CODE_SIGNING_REQUIRED=NO CODE_SIGNING_ALLOWED=NO

[gentle grove]

where do i do that

i think kirb went to sleep

ive never used xcode before and i have no idea whats going on and why it keeps asking to create a team or something

o

[wooden yarrow]

u either put it as arguments to xcodebuild or u change sdksettings in the iphone sdk

[gentle grove]

ok im gonna be honest i have no clue what file that is

why does xcode not have a file explorer

oh i already have it open

not when theres build errors

i see

[crisp frost]

capt Xcode tutorial

[wooden yarrow]

capt Xcode youtube tutorial

[gentle grove]

OH

theres buttons

windows????

build watchtube

does it matter which one

WatchTube Watch App

i now have a number larger than 32 when building

thats a good sign

kirb just got back to me

what does it do

can other acana oacanothepr oplepsing can other people sign it

[kind herald]

can't you use it with Sideloadly or something

[gentle grove]

it started a simulator

my computer died for a second

yeah it was saying unknown team or something

with an ID or smeting

until i dsiabled it

this is very hard to type when i am getting 1 frame out every 2.5 seconds

oh cool i have an archive now

idk what option he wants me to pick

or how to send it to him

[rugged gull]

What would be the best way to have a timer in my code that I can grab the time left on then run a completion block from it? Is GCD the best way?

[slender glade]

https://twitter.com/coreserena/status/1797945928307159073?s=21&t=wD3UdcIZdJsu8Lv78WukBQ

Antoine (@CoreSerena) on X

Infinite amount of if-else statements? No, thank you. Checking for number % 2 == 0? No, thank you.

Twitter · Jun 4, 2024, 10:58 AM

banger tweet follow me

@wooden yarrow yeah no video my voice just isn't cut out for that, i'll write an article instead

[wooden yarrow]

qhar

but

sure

ok

[faint timber]

https://x.com/cryptiiiic/status/1798303249839370379?s=46&t=u_f1ACi46dWRI6UDvKjnYQ

Cryptic (@Cryptiiiic) on X

I’ll do you one better 2 second execution time:

Twitter · Jun 5, 2024, 10:38 AM

Don’t wake me up again

[atomic girder]

is there any decent beginner guide to writing tweaks? rootfull, rootless, which framework to use (theos?) etc

[radiant idol]

https://github.com/NightwindDev/Tweak-Tutorial

[reef trail]

you can find help here once you know the basics :) https://theos.dev/discord

[placid kraken]

why does it take so long to get the result from cosine

i’m pretty sure CORDIC is made in a way that it’s extremely fast

is it just ios being slow

[orchid fulcrum]

Hi everybody, does anybody use lldb on windows to debug apps on an ios device ? Idk if this is possible but i managed to install lldb on windows, problem is when i do platform select remote-ios it complains about missing a sdk so i downloaded 17.4 sdk but i can't seem to find a command for setting the sdk path for lldb

[reef trail]

just use wsl

no need to use a werid windows version

[orchid fulcrum]

Alright but like its the same issue

Also how did i get member plus role lol

[reef trail]

idk sorry, i dont use a debugger cos i dont write bugs

just get good /j

maybe try using the lldb theos provides (if it does provide any?)

[orchid fulcrum]

Insane flex lol

[orchid fulcrum]

Pretty sure it doesn't

[reef trail]

no doesnt look like it

[orchid fulcrum]

damm

will try

[reef trail]

looking at docs online it seems remote-ios is only for mac hosts

i could be wrong though

[orchid fulcrum]

docs of lldb ?

[reef trail]

yeah

https://github.com/ios-control/ios-deploy seems promising?

[orchid fulcrum]

this is macos only

[orchid fulcrum]

couldn't find in remote debugging section

do u remember where it was

[reef trail]

it might not of been the docs actually

it mightve been a stack overflow page

i speed researched lol

[orchid fulcrum]

oh stackoverflow says its impossible to compile for ios without a mac too 💀

[reef trail]

cos normally it is

theos is a botched together tool

[orchid fulcrum]

I mean it works pretty well lol

but i see the point

[reef trail]

?

[orchid fulcrum]

theos works pretty well

[reef trail]

yes

yes

[orchid fulcrum]

this seems like a stupid question but what does that screenshot mean xd. when i look at theos source on github and use the search with "lldb" i can't seem to find it

[reef trail]

means i couldn’t find it?

[orchid fulcrum]

i guess, but anyway i solved the sdk error and it says unable to find a plug-in for the platform named "ios-remote" seems like its only for macos after all

[faint timber]

Check the tweet, it’s a for loop, serenas was the cosine one

[random field]

@fading shell I’ve reported an issue with Glance on GitHub. Can u check it pls?

[sudden heron]

anyone here able to make an iphone automation framework similar to appium?

[cloud yacht]

Able to: probably
Willing to: probably not

[soft ether]

hi i tried setting breakpoints but i kept getting error 9

i was able to attach though, pause and continue the app, and some other stuff

manage to even pass command line args using debugserver lol

[orchid fulcrum]

You have a mac right

[weary heath]

idk what error 9 is, are you sure you have the right address

you can compare the instructions by running memory read <ptr> --format i

[soft ether]

yeah i just copied it from ghidra

[soft ether]

yeah

the highlighted thing but with 0x at the start

it just says

error 9: sending the breakpoint request

whenever i try to set one, using breakpoint list says it failed to resolve the breakpoint

[soft ether]

will give this a shot

[weary heath]

you need to add the aslr slide too

[soft ether]

uhh what's that

[weary heath]

security measure to make exploits harder but it's not really a hurdle for us

run image list <process-name>

[soft ether]

right i saw stuff online for that but didn't understand it lol, booting up my mac again (i just turned it off lol)

[weary heath]

it'll print it's start address, so if it's like 0x1003fc00, then it's shifted by 0x3fc00 and you need to add that to 0x100a83568

[soft ether]

OHHHH

yeah i saw that and added 0x1003fc00 instead of 0x3fc00

will give that a shot

[soft ether]

omg it worked with this

HA THE BREAKPOINT SET

THANKS

<3

[weary heath]

awesome, have fun

[soft ether]

will do lol

okay now i get an error about encrypted memory when i step and such

oh it must've been a one off

it works now

[void fjord]

Hey! Is it possible to give a specific app root access?

[tepid olive]

like an app from the app store root or a command line app or wdym?

[frail cedar]

i have ported objective c to swift

mapView.mapType = [.standard, .mutedStandard, .hybrid, .hybridFlyover, .satellite, .satelliteFlyover][["STANDARD", "MUTEDSTANDARD", "HYBRID", "HYBRIDFLYOVER", "SATELLITE", "SATELLITEFLYOVER"].firstIndex(of: mapViewConfig.mapType) ?? 0]

bracket notation for all

[frail cedar]

what exactly do you mean

root user access or root filesystem access

[radiant idol]

Stop

[frail cedar]

I did

[radiant idol]

Good

[frail cedar]

you can just

extension MKMapType: Codable { }

instead

[radiant idol]

Alfie hated me when he saw that I did
@{}.mutableCopy

[frail cedar]

im sorry what.

[radiant idol]

It’s almost the same thing as [NSMutableDictionary new]

[torn oriole]

@sonic totem ooooo @{}.mutableCopy

[radiant idol]

Careful… you might also get told off by him

[torn oriole]

@{}.mutableCopy

@{}.mutableCopy

@{}.mutableCopy

@{}.mutableCopy

[gentle grove]

@{}.mutableCopy

[placid kraken]

@{}.mutableCopy

[sonic totem]

@[].mutableCopy equally as bad

[placid kraken]

for the record i agree with alfie on this one that way of getting an NSMutableDict is sooo cursed

AGGREGATW???

[gentle grove]

you aggregate

[radiant idol]

I had a phase okay

Smh

[slim bramble]

Ewwww

[wooden yarrow]

idk objc but

@"".mutableCopy

[placid kraken]

@NO.mutableCopy

https://tenor.com/view/shiggy-explode-shiggy-explode-gif-13187176751879755548

[torn oriole]

Shiggy

[placid kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/wagoo-thunder-wagoo-thunder-shiggy-gif-435339343235150898

[torn oriole]

Shiggy

[placid kraken]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1228974577804247080.png?size=160&quality=lossless

[torn oriole]

Shiggy

[slender glade]

this is so fucking funny

[kind herald]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1039992459209490513.png?size=160

woeis

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1098738668417581296.png?size=160

Why is it not moving

the shiggy isn’t shigging

[kind herald]

holy moly…

[wooden yarrow]

IceCream

[kind herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1221015075922513990.webp?size=48

[wooden yarrow]

shigcopter

[kind herald]

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1175988121519792210.png?size=160

[frail cedar]

they let me into the private MKMapView header

[wooden yarrow]

smh why do they not align the equals

[gentle grove]

only soydevs do

[wooden yarrow]

wtf

it's over

[slender glade]

remove inout

[frail cedar]

why

this is not a function on the UIViewController

[frail cedar]

lame

[wooden yarrow]

wtf

how would u mutate it then

[frail cedar]

exactly

[slender glade]

it's a class

[frail cedar]

i have to give it an instance of MKMapView to modify

[slender glade]

Yes for classes you can just modify them without inout

[frail cedar]

WHAT

[slender glade]

inout for classes just allows u to change the variable entirely in the func scope

[slender glade]

yeah they work a bit diff from structs

[frail cedar]

TIL

[wooden yarrow]

wouldn't that mean you need sumn like self

[slender glade]

if you want to do future-proofing make sure to use if mapView.respondsToSelector for each private property btw

[slender glade]

?

[frail cedar]

Ooh ok

Is that an expensive check

Or could I wrap each private toggle with that check so they only show if actually usable

[slender glade]

it's very cheap

[wooden yarrow]

i mean if i take java for example you can modify the instance of the class like that without having to pass it as a param

[frail cedar]

Nice

[wooden yarrow]

so

[slender glade]

Yeah

[frail cedar]

I'll do that then

[slender glade]

i dont get it

[frail cedar]

<- only checked 15.2.1 headers

[slender glade]

^-^

[wooden yarrow]

wait so ok on the flip side why the hell does that work in swift, does it only work with objects with the same class as the method?

[frail cedar]

I'm passing the MKMapView from its viewcontroller to this function which is on a different class (the VC has an instance of it)

MapViewConfiguration is basically a bunch of Bools in a class

That function there dumps them all to the mapView

[slender glade]

if you pass in an object (class instance) as a parameter and modify it's instance variables, they stay changed after the function scope because classes in swift and in objc r pointers

[frail cedar]

OH

[slender glade]

consider using an OptionSet btw

[frail cedar]

I was under the assumption they were not, and inout kinda did the pointer thing

[wooden yarrow]

why is that hidden

[frail cedar]

How's that work

[wooden yarrow]

nfr

[slender glade]

hidden?

[wooden yarrow]

in rust you explicitly have to Box<> it or sumn

so

[slender glade]

structs in rust r on the stack not the heap?

so

and also they're not just pointers

[frail cedar]

Is this the whole thing with swift memory layout and init functions you were telling me abt earlier

[slender glade]

one thing

[slender glade]

Yea

[wooden yarrow]

you're talking about classes right

[slender glade]

yes

[wooden yarrow]

which in rust would be traits

[frail cedar]

why I can't self = instance

ohhh ok

[wooden yarrow]

and there can be trait objects

[slender glade]

I thought traits were just the equivalent of an extension/protocol

[wooden yarrow]

which need to be wrapped in a Box<dyn TraitType>

to be passed

and you can't just pass some TraitType

[slender glade]

i forgor the specific reason why but smth about SwiftObject and how it's alloc'd

[slender glade]

idk rust is diff but this is how swift and objc both operate

[wooden yarrow]

wait so then @slender glade how would you pass class objs as consts

[slender glade]

you have to put ur properties in them as let rather than var

if u wanna copy a class u have to use -[NSObject copy]

[wooden yarrow]

wtf did u just switch to objc

[frail cedar]

Swift classes still conform to NSObject

[wooden yarrow]

me when objc bridge

[frail cedar]

I love objective c bridging header

[slender glade]

struct MapConfigurationOptions: OptionSet {
  let rawValue: Int

  static let showsUserLocation = MapConfigurationOptions(rawValue: 1 << 1)
  static let showsTrafficIncidents = MapConfigurationOptions(rawValue: 1 << 2)
  // etc

  func configure(mapView: MKMapView) {
    // ...
    self._showsTrafficIncidents = self.contains(.showsTrafficIncidents) // for example
  }
}

[slender glade]

class SomeClass: NSObject

[frail cedar]

this does not make sense to me

[slender glade]

it's a number

1 singular number

which contains other numbers

[frail cedar]

why is there only one

how does that work

[slender glade]

bits

bitfields

bitmasks

[wooden yarrow]

why is it not called a BitSet

troll

[slender glade]

they're really common in C

no idea

[wooden yarrow]

or a BitArray

[frail cedar]

you are speaking in tongues

[wooden yarrow]

do you know what bits are

[slender glade]

instead of having 20 diff bool variables

you have 1 number

[frail cedar]

yes

i don't know what a bitmask is

[wooden yarrow]

you extract a bit

from a number

[frail cedar]

Wtf

[wooden yarrow]

(or multiple)

[frail cedar]

That's

Cursed

Sorta

[slender glade]

a singular integer which "contains" other integers but for your purposes swift hides all that from you and you basically have an array-like interface to work with them

[wooden yarrow]

have you never seen sumn like num & 1 == 0 ?

[slender glade]

you define numbers like 1 << n

and then you check for them with .contains(.staticVariableName)

[frail cedar]

this feels more complex than a bunch of bools

[slender glade]

remove with .remove(.staticVariableName)

it saves way more memory

[wooden yarrow]

they do not contain other integers they contain bits

.

[slender glade]

idk how else to explain it

[frail cedar]

i'm already eating 200mb for my mapview i think a few kb will be fine

[slender glade]

fair

[wooden yarrow]

is this the principle which electron was built on

[frail cedar]

pref bundle update

[slender glade]

Looks good

[frail cedar]

The clear cache button is broken in the RC i sent oh well

Gotta give the pref bundle binary entitlements

[frail cedar]

The memory savings just dictates when the mapview gets unloaded

Default is Some i believe

I'll check later

[granite frigate]

how long did it take to make that tweak

[wooden yarrow]

@frail cedar what can u do with the tweak

[kind herald]

relocate

but better

[gentle grove]

nothings on the heap by default unless the class puts itself on the heap in its constructors and stuff

[slender glade]

rust does not have classes

[gentle grove]

I called it class because it made more sense in the context

structs in rust are classes if you put the right methods on them

not in the sense of classes being pointers to an object always but that has more to do with the theory of how objects work in the language than what classes actually are

[gentle grove]

No

[wooden yarrow]

eh close enough to how it's being used in swift

or

well

passed

[gentle grove]

completely different from classes

hold on

i mean there isn't really any closer way to compare it to than interfaces

structs are rust's classes

if you want the OOP style then Box<SomeStruct> is rust's way I guess

[wooden yarrow]

does swift even have stack structs?

[gentle grove]

if it doesn't that would surprise me but I don't know much about the design of swift

[wooden yarrow]

@slender glade does it

[slender glade]

?

yes

[gentle grove]

Aren't there both classes and structs

[slender glade]

structs and enums are exclusively on the stack

classes r on the heap

[gentle grove]

they couldn't decide I guess

[wooden yarrow]

huh

why the destinction

then

why not just have structs

[gentle grove]

people like OOP maybe

[wooden yarrow]

perhaps

oh, right

[gentle grove]

no inheritance on structs in swift

[wooden yarrow]

swift literally comes from Objective-C

[gentle grove]

Idk I thought like it's not really coming from anything

Pretty sure they misworded this

this makes it sound like it's static (in Java terms) which im pretty sure isn't what they were going for

[wooden yarrow]

i guess each instance instead of every instance is what makes the distinction?

they should word it clearer tho

[gentle grove]

oh protocol is a thing

traits are like protocol in swift

like exactly identical I think

[wooden yarrow]

yeah

[slender glade]

they could

it makes sense to have one data type on the stack and one on the heap

structs also are faster sometimes because they don't have to hold the weight of the objective-c runtime

[gentle grove]

I don't really get it, i don't see where having a type be always on the heap is useful

like with rust everything is stack basically

if you need to have something on the heap, you place it in a Box

[slender glade]

variability and flexibility

[gentle grove]

there's no types that are just on the heap inherently

[wooden yarrow]

seems harder to use for no alloc situations like embedded programming

trol

[gentle grove]

Doesnt it make it less flexible by forcing your type to be on the heap

[slender glade]

no

heap is a lot more flexible than the stack iirc

[gentle grove]

which is why you can Box anything in rust that needs to be on the heap

[slender glade]

oh my god who gives a fuck about Box

[gentle grove]

you just encapsulate specific things that need to be on the heap

instead of forcing types to be on the heap on the type level

[slender glade]

if you don't want it to be on the heap then use a struct

[gentle grove]

what

[slender glade]

they're different types for a reason

[wooden yarrow]

wait so why wouldn't i just use a struct all the time

[gentle grove]

i mean i don't understand what's the use of class existing at all, compared to just giving all your capabilities to structs instead and making things more value oriented at the call site

[wooden yarrow]

and alloc the struct if i need it on the heap

[slender glade]

objc-compat

[gentle grove]

o

[wooden yarrow]

does objc just not work without the heap

wtf

[slender glade]

u can take a guess as to where objc classes live

[gentle grove]

well it's just everything's in the heap I believe

like how Java is I presume

[wooden yarrow]

oh my god it's apple's java

[gentle grove]

all your objects are reference types pointing to heap

that's what I always thought of it as

[slender glade]

also identify

[gentle grove]

perhaps an oversimplified way but still

[slender glade]

==

===

[wooden yarrow]

cant u just impl that on structs

[slender glade]

yes

what

sorry i thought u replied to the == one

=== for structs? no

[wooden yarrow]

why is there a ===

[gentle grove]

What exactly

[wooden yarrow]

is this javascript 2

💀

[gentle grove]

Compare value probably

[wooden yarrow]

oh

[slender glade]

no

[wooden yarrow]

is that not just sugar

then

[gentle grove]

Would you rather be .eq(..) like Java instead of ===, (since == compares the refernece)

[slender glade]

== for structs is meant to compare the properties inside each one by one

=== (and the default impl of == in classes till overriden for a specific class) check the pointers

ie if they're the same address in memory

not possible with structs

[wooden yarrow]

cant u still compare struct ptrs

lol

[gentle grove]

since structs are the value

[gentle grove]

The struct isn't a pointer

[wooden yarrow]

no like

if you alloc structs

on the heap

u get a struct ptr

[gentle grove]

i imagine that's done by encapsulating it or something

so you'd be ==='ing on the encapsulating type instead

not the struct inside

so that changes stuff

[wooden yarrow]

huh, so the fact that it's on the heap is kinda hidden away

given that the default is comparing values

sounds like java

[slender glade]

not possible in swift

[gentle grove]

i wouldnt call that hidden

they just flip flopped the logic

[gentle grove]

It's the exact opposite of Java

[wooden yarrow]

is there no alloc function in swift or something ??

what

[wooden yarrow]

hm

yeah

ig more intuitive for the default to be comparing values?

[gentle grove]

i am not so sure about this because that was based on rust Box logic

[wooden yarrow]

wait so @slender glade what the hell do i do if i don't want all the shit that comes with the objc runtime but want things to be on the heap

[gentle grove]

Probably just cry like with Java

[wooden yarrow]

😭

damn that sounds inflexible to me

you can't even start to move away from objc

you just always have to stay stuck to it

[gentle grove]

What wdym

[wooden yarrow]

bc if you want shit on the heap

you use classes

classes come with all the objc stuff

so

.

[gentle grove]

is that right?

classes require you to enter the objc runtime?

I thought it was just that you get classes as a concept because of the need to have something to mirror objc types when you need to deal with them

that's how I understood it from earlier

[wooden yarrow]

https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/main/docs/ObjCInterop.md
"All Swift classes are also Objective-C classes. When Swift classes inherit from an Objective-C class, they inherit in exactly the same way an Objective-C class would, by generating an Objective-C class structure whose superclass field points to the Objective-C superclass. Pure Swift classes with no superclass generate an Objective-C class that subclasses the internal SwiftObject class in the runtime. SwiftObject implements a minimal interface allowing these objects to be passed around through Objective-C code with correct memory management and basic functionality."

huh.

[slender glade]

Class without NSObjecf inheritance

[gentle grove]

true

[wooden yarrow]

huh, what about the statement of "Pure Swift classes with no superclass generate an Objective-C class that subclasses the internal SwiftObject class in the runtime."

seems very intermingled with objc

[slender glade]

shrug

[wooden yarrow]

to me

[gentle grove]

is that talking about interop with objc?

[wooden yarrow]

i mean it is from the objcinterop doc

[gentle grove]

i don't think that has anything to do with when you just make a class in swift and that's it

[wooden yarrow]

so

[gentle grove]

no objc involved

[gentle grove]

i think that's talking about when you're making a swift class and getting ready to access it from objc

it gets turned into a thing

[wooden yarrow]

so the compiler generates all the objc interop for you if you decide to interop with Obj-C?

interesting

(or the compiler generates shit anyways and removes using dead code elimination)

[slender glade]

this

[gentle grove]

Im having trouble visualizing where anything here is taking place

so back to earlier, is there just no way to throw a struct onto the heap when necessary other than make a class

or can you like do stuff that requires it to be in the heap and it automatically gets put there transparently via ARC

[wooden yarrow]

this is like that tweet saying hardware engineers make hardware more efficient so that software engineers can bloat their software enough to the point where all the efficiency gains are destroyed

😭

(can't find the actual tweet rn)

[gentle grove]

no

[wooden yarrow]

i dont think so

[wooden yarrow]

i mean yeah of course the gains aren't lost in this case

but they really should've only generated it when necessary

i.e. lazy generation

[gentle grove]

that's hardware and software

[gentle grove]

i don't think anything is generated anywhere but I don't know what's going on

[slender glade]

swift performance is on par with objective-c

[gentle grove]

Oh I just found exactly the article I was looking for

[wooden yarrow]

that is not what i am saying

.

i'm saying compilers are too smart

[gentle grove]

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/swift/choosing-between-structures-and-classes

[slender glade]

fair

[gentle grove]

I imagine it only does stuff when you inherit NSObject or something

[wooden yarrow]

maybe

[wooden yarrow]

this statement is still kinda bugging me tho

because this also implies no connection to NSObject

[slender glade]

https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/da6f015e3cc26a7495d9c8ac577cd992290a2a50/stdlib/public/runtime/SwiftObject.mm#L209

[gentle grove]

probably if you import the clsss from objc it does it

how did they come up with .m for objc

it doesn't have an m in either word

[wooden yarrow]

wtf swift doesn't bootstrap itself ⁉️

or is this only for objc interop

[slender glade]

message

[slender glade]

objc interop

[wooden yarrow]

o

[gentle grove]

Darn it

[wooden yarrow]

cool

[gentle grove]

their crazy naming

everything

this kinda makes sense

because classes give you identity

[slender glade]

there needs to be better documentation about swift's interaction with objective-c

[gentle grove]

The third point here

[wooden yarrow]

huh, if it's completely separated like this then shouldn't it be quite easy to simply not include any objc stuff at compile time, thus removing the need for dead code elim

[gentle grove]

classes make the idea of an "object" a thing

[wooden yarrow]

swift is open source

you know what that means

!

[gentle grove]

I don't

How can you open the source, is it like a chest

[wooden yarrow]

learn about the swift-objc interop process from code review and write docs yourself

[gentle grove]

that's really interesting to me

[wooden yarrow]

[gentle grove]

basically the idea is you use struct for all but a very small amount of cases

[wooden yarrow]

i mean yeah isn't that like java

everything is from classes

thus everything is object

[gentle grove]

which is either objc interop or needing the idea of objects and identity,

[gentle grove]

Yes like classes

it's neat to me because it didn't occur to me

rust doesn't have any analog of that

[wooden yarrow]

probably because rust devs thought oop was bad

but swift needs this because legacy objc code

[gentle grove]

No it's beyond objc interop

think of something like a file handle

[gentle grove]

in rust you just store some identifier in the struct or something (maybe the fd) and in your PartialEq implementation (there's no equality comparison implemented by default) you compare that

so you redefine what equality comparison means at every type

but if you have a class, you just have a single object in the world for that fd

and it makes more sense from a semantic view

That's very neat

[wooden yarrow]

i typed out "idk isn't that basically sugar for inheritance in rust" but then realized rust doesn't even have inheritance so uh

i guess closest would be including a struct in your struct?

to "extend" it

/ a newtype

[gentle grove]

No

instead of inheritance you do things through traits

[wooden yarrow]

oh, yeah combining traits together

[gentle grove]

the idea is there isn't really much use inheriting stuff if you can just compose traits together

composition is preferred even in Java to be honest

at least from the modern perspective

inheritance is kinda crusty

[opal ridge]

@slender glade do you know how to interpret waitpid status in swift

[gentle grove]

it's rare that inheritance even makes sense

[slender glade]

just like in C?

[opal ridge]

those are macros

[wooden yarrow]

i mean if you have a similar type with a shit ton of traits

i think it would be nice to just be able to gain allat and add a few more

trol

[slender glade]

wym waitpid is a function? Are you talking about return status macros?

[wooden yarrow]

seems like a rare case th

o

[opal ridge]

right the return status macros

[slender glade]

can u show me a piece of C code and i'll translate it for u

the way i used it before is

[gentle grove]

does it make sense though

if you really think things through

[slender glade]

var status: CInt = -1
waipid(pid, &status, 0)

@opal ridge and if the return status is not >= then check errno

[opal ridge]

right and how are you going to interpret status

[slender glade]

uhh

one sec

[gentle grove]

inheritance makes sense if you have something that's fundametally inherited in like a theoretical way which is somewhat rare

[wooden yarrow]

i mean ig you can just make a new trait that impls all of that

and it would be fine to just use that new trait

yeah

[opal ridge]

because in C it is done with WIFEXITED WIFSIGNALED WCOREDUMP WIFSTOPPED macros

[gentle grove]

that's a supertrait, but I think you're arguing syntactic sanity and code cleanliness where I'm talking about what makes sense in the theory and logic

[slender glade]

let me check

[gentle grove]

but there's lots of times supertraits make sense and they exist a lot

[wooden yarrow]

why is there function-like macros for this instead of it just being a constant

did they need to encapsulate the comparison too

[gentle grove]

but thinking of trying to recreate inheritance is wrong because it's not supposed to exist in rust

[wooden yarrow]

hm

fair

[slender glade]

@opal ridge yea figured it out lemme just write it

[opal ridge]

i mean it's certainly possible to manually expand the macros

and then write it in swift

but that's

[slender glade]

no you don't need to

@opal ridge so what those macros do is check the return status of _WSTATUS, which can be written in swift as:

func _WSTATUS(_ status: Int32) -> Int32 {
    return status & 0x7f
}

[wooden yarrow]

is that not expanding the macros

[opal ridge]

that's expanding the macros guess ill do that

since it only needs to work on darwin

[slender glade]

oh i thought u meant writing a c bridge

mb

[slender glade]

as a reference point ^

_W_INT is just the status

[gentle grove]

This would make a great blog post and gave me some ideas

[wooden yarrow]

@opal ridge u could also just convert the macros into actual functions by calling them inside some (Obj-)C function then call that using interop

trol

[opal ridge]

inline functions in c bridge

[wooden yarrow]

oh it's not just one comparison

no wonder they need to encapsulate it

[soft ether]

is there a way to flush the dns cache on ios without rebooting?

i jailbroke with chimera so i reallllyyyy don't wanna go through that again 😭

okay apparently airplane mode should help

yep that worked sweet

[native dune]

uhhh killall -HUP mDNSResponder or something

i forgot what the exact daemon

[granite frigate]

what game is that :o

[weary heath]

neko atsume

[void fjord]

So specifically, Retroarch has a option to browse the file system. Since its sandboxed it cant browse files outside of its folder. I have a older version where it gave me the option to start at the "/" directory so its psuedo out of its sandbox but it cant read files inside of /private>var>(blank) it just shows nothing in there. One of the guys on the team at RA told me that as soon as im jailbroken it should be able to escape its sandbox and see. I jailbroke but still the same thing so they told me that possibly it needs entitlements to actually view the files.

[weary heath]

wtf

[void fjord]

Discord lagged out hard

[weary heath]

lmao

[void fjord]

Tf

Im sorry guys lmao

[weary heath]

So specifically, Retroarch has a option to browse the file system. Since its sandboxed it cant browse files outside of its folder. I have a older version where it gave me the option to start at the "/" directory so its psuedo out of its sandbox but it cant read files inside of /private>var>(blank) it just shows nothing in there. One of the guys on the team at RA told me that as soon as im jailbroken it should be able to escape its sandbox and see. I jailbroke but still the same thing so they told me that possibly it needs entitlements to actually view the files.

[void fjord]

I cant tell if its deleting the message

😂😂

[weary heath]

im not sure the answer to that but any reason why you can't just put roms in its sandbox

[void fjord]

So the reason im doing this is because I dont have that much room left on my ipad so Im trying to have the roms stored on a usb but the file path for the usb is deep and RA cant see it. Theres also no files app option on retroarch I gotta use its own browser. I think the path is private>var>mobilelives>etc and Retroarch stops at Var

[restive ether]

escaping sandbox is not a default feature of a jailbreak that’s incredibly irresponsible

only checkra1n/palera1n disables sandbox

[tepid olive]

Oh meow

[restive ether]

it also triggers a ton of jailbreak detection, so like yeah

[void fjord]

Word okay, yea I also heard someone say that anything installed via trollstore automatically removes sandbox but same thing my RA was installed via trollstore and still stuck.

[restive ether]

you would have to check the trollstore thing to see if it says that

i’m not sure how that works

[void fjord]

Yea this is just my gaming device so im down to go all the way for this lol. Yea when it installs it shows you if the app is sandboxed or not and it stated that it was but was no option to edit that.

[restive ether]

you can try signing with com.apple.private.security.no-sandbox

[void fjord]

I finally found a tutorial on how to give Entitlements, it includes me unzipping the ipa and plist editing. Etc. okay yea ill try that. Do you know if theres a youtube video that shows doing that? Im a visual person and the website im about to use is a bunch of text

[native dune]

theres a couple entitlements that should work

[restive ether]

look into the ldid manpage

[void fjord]

Bet thank you I was gonna ask if there was a service where I could do it via the ipad I did see some stuff about ldid

[native dune]

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<!DOCTYPE plist PUBLIC "-//Apple//DTD PLIST 1.0//EN" "http://www.apple.com/DTDs/PropertyList-1.0.dtd">
<plist version="1.0">
<dict>
    <key>com.apple.private.security.no-sandbox</key>
    <true/>
</dict>
</plist>

save to ents.plist

ldid -Sents.plist -M path/to/bundle.app

merge

[restive ether]

https://man.cameronkatri.com/ldid/ldid.1

does trollstore let you manage entitlements from in the app

[native dune]

you could ldid -e then edit that plist and sign witht hat

[restive ether]

i’ve never used it

[native dune]

but this is easier

[native dune]

no i dont think

[void fjord]

Okay so I did some quick reading,

Basically I get the ipa for RA then I extract the files from the ipa. After that I use ldid to dump the entitlements. I then edit the entitlements by adding the no sandbox command. After that I save it or replace the entitlement, rezip, and install the ipa?

[restive ether]

more or less

[restive ether]

all of what you need is here

[faint stag]

no but that could be cool to implement

[restive ether]

i’m kinda surprised that’s not already a thing

i thought that was like

the whole point lol

guess not

[faint stag]

i mean, the expectation is to have the correct entitlements set

once you have it built

some entitlements have consequences

lel

[restive ether]

mmmmmm CS debugged

[slender glade]

nice idea

[restive ether]

i can’t really think of how the ui would work

[slender glade]

it's a plist

[cloud yacht]

Massive page witch check boxes

[restive ether]

to be totally user friendly

[slender glade]

AppIndex already has a UI to show ents, write could also be added

[restive ether]

does it show everything

[slender glade]

Yes

[restive ether]

or just the ones that are generally allowed

[slender glade]

all

[restive ether]

promising

how does that work when it’s a key

like true/false or setting a path

[slender glade]

wdym

[cloud yacht]

I mean you could just add the common ones with descriptions and then have a sub page for more advanced ones or you just you can edit it as a text file

[slender glade]

you write to an NSMutableDictionary

[restive ether]

entitlements are seriously undocumented it’s kinda sad lol

[cloud yacht]

Oh that's unfortunate

[slender glade]

or so you think

[cloud yacht]

But doesn't trollstore already have some to show permissions?

When installing

[restive ether]

jlevin’s database isn’t really documented

is there somewhere else i don’t know about

[slender glade]

oh who said anything abt Levin's

[restive ether]

then who

that’s all i know about

[slender glade]

my mind

[cloud yacht]

Not really documented then

[slender glade]

uh yea it is

[atomic girder]

im writing a multi-app tweak and im trying to share settings between them (rootless)
does anyone have ideas on how to store the settings?

[slender glade]

NSUserDefaults

[restive ether]

document these

[atomic girder]

sadly not shared between apps

[slender glade]

plist then

[slender glade]

which ones

[atomic girder]

no write permissions

[slender glade]

no idea then tbh

[timid furnace]

what is wrong with NSUserDefaults

your domain is your app's bundle id

[cloud yacht]

Yeah I could use them in webshade which worked in multiple apps

[atomic girder]

its a tweak for multiple apps

so its not shared between those apps

[timid furnace]

??

you know you can specify domain with NSUserDefaults right

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/foundation/nsuserdefaults/1409957-initwithsuitename

[placid kraken]

i thought that said "look into the lead mortgage" am i dyslexic

[atomic girder]

yes, i tried it twice and it requires app group to be configured

[timid furnace]

is this jailed or jailbroken?

oh wait, the apps are gonna be sandboxed

ugh

[restive ether]

sounds like you may have ingested some lead

[placid kraken]

ah that might be why

[worthy mulch]

What's the general workflow for making a tweak from scratch?
I've just started to get the hang of using instrumentation and static analysis to find the methods and classes I want to modify, but how do I take the step from frida scripts to something I can compile and inject an IPA with from sideloadly or upload to a repo or something
I can write code, and I can reverse stuff, but there's some fundamental thing I'm missing that would link the two

[slender glade]

@serene hawk @weary heath @wooden yarrow ended up the article instead: https://nsantoine.dev/posts/CALayerCaptureHiding

[wooden yarrow]

yooo

🔥

[wooden yarrow]

any idea what the (1 << 1) or (1 << 4) flags actually are or are used for?