development

[indigo peak]

@grave sparrow was able to piece this together

// what v8 represents
bool _availability_version_check(uint32_t count,
                                 dyld_build_version_t versions[]);

typedef struct {
    dyld_platform_t platform;
    uint32_t version;
} dyld_build_version_t;

[slim bramble]

@reef trail Do you still need ida legitimate version

?

[reef trail]

found an 8.3 windows build so ima try that with wine

not sure if its patched tho or just a leak

[faint timber]

7.7 without the dot, your role should be removed at this point

[faint timber]

77's as in possessive

[brazen timber]

https://github.com/x0rloser/ida_dll_shim

use 7.7 arm with the shim

or you can patch the export manually

[faint timber]

better shims out there from the main dude

[visual meadow]

@torn cloud

[brazen timber]

the main dude?

[faint timber]

cracker

there is an entire lore behind it

[brazen timber]

oh what

i thought i had the original leak

not in here tho

[faint timber]

there was drama, lot of brokers in the leak n stuff

main dude had enough so spilled the beans

[brazen timber]

yea nfo said smth som1 stealing a leak

didn't get it tho

[faint timber]

lot of the post is in chinese so grain of salt

[brazen timber]

thought they were vietnamese

[faint timber]

maybe but discussion was on chinese forum

[kind herald]

is there a way to see a tweak is injected into springboard

[slim bramble]

Flex

[kind herald]

where do I get it

[slim bramble]

@hasty ruin stop deleting messages smh I don’t agree this this shit

[hasty ruin]

if only you could see ONO rn

[slim bramble]

Leak

[torn cloud]

will try

[kind herald]

how do I get flex

[faint timber]

https://github.com/PoomSmart/FLEXing/releases/tag/1.5.0

[graceful gate]

go to gym ig?

[faint timber]

selfbot

[graceful gate]

I see my avatar up there lol

[faint timber]

flex was mentioned, immediately in channel

[graceful gate]

I wish objc merged that MR and pushed to his repo

@robust radish soon? 😄

[kind herald]

thanks 🙏

oh it’s rootless

woeis

[slim bramble]

💀

[placid kraken]

how do i get flex

[harsh junco]

how do i get flex

[hasty ruin]

nscake.github.io for rootful

[faint timber]

bro works for tinder

[kind herald]

worked 🙏 thanks icraze

[graceful gate]

ngl I used Tinder a moment ago (better UI since last time)

[visual meadow]

Question
Is it possible to get the apple watch text haptic on an iphone?

Cause i always seem to miss messages when i have my phone in my pocket cause i dont feel the vibration

[faint timber]

wear jeans ez fix

[orchid fulcrum]

17.5beta out plz diff

[faint timber]

dead

[timid garden]

Real question, when is it not gonna safe mod if I accidentally tap the layers button

[radiant idol]

FLEXing in general is quite unstable on new iOS versions unfortunately

[tepid olive]

Guys

[torn cloud]

hi nightwind

[tepid olive]

Why can't I use realitykit in objc

[torn cloud]

because apple want you to use swift

[tepid olive]

Now I have to use swift

[torn cloud]

woeis

[radiant idol]

You could probably construct a bridge somehow

[tepid olive]

Yeah but it will probably take more than it is worth

[radiant idol]

You literally made a objc-zig thing

cmon

[tepid olive]

That wasn't me that made that

[native orbit]

make a haskell-objc bridge

[tepid olive]

[torn cloud]

inb4 rest of life wasted fixing memory management

and broken type mapping

[torn cloud]

@visual meadow works now cheers

[twilit jungle]

Is that with reflex?

[radiant idol]

Wdym?

[twilit jungle]

Just wondering what makes it unstable, is it the libreflex or libflex in general?

[radiant idol]

I think libFlex in general

Clicking on a CGRect field for example causes a safe mode crash

[reef trail]

do you have a link to that?

[hasty ruin]

TIL

I always just click the (i)

Which seems to avoid the crash

[placid kraken]

same

[faint stag]

well i mean the taptic engine should be decent enough for it
you'd have to hook it tho and the only tweak i know that might have relevant code is litten's old tweak, rose

[visual meadow]

Ok

[torn cloud]

@grave sparrow does zefram bypass SIP

or do you have to turn it off before hand

k

oh

i see

ok

[kind herald]

zefram

[torn cloud]

zefram open source alternative soon

[kind herald]

zefram_demalwarefied

[torn cloud]

yes

[native orbit]

i should make a oss zefram clone

[hasty ruin]

yes

without the malware

[torn cloud]

what do y'all use for xcode discord rich presence

[native orbit]

ill add an ad for rune in replacement for the malware

[hasty ruin]

good idea

[primal perch]

ios 16.7 jailbreak

[torn cloud]

wen eta

[kind herald]

penis jailbreak for ipod ios 15

[torn cloud]

inshallah krw kext works

[sonic totem]

I have some app called RPFX or smth

It hardly ever works anyway

[torn cloud]

found it

cheers

[sonic totem]

I think you would need to add it to login items

Need a rich presence for Binary Ninja 🧌

[visual meadow]

Someone needs to make something that injects straight into xcode app

[torn cloud]

smh it doesn't show the damn icons 💀

[timid furnace]

someone has one that shows it

https://github.com/AsadAzam/DiscordX

[torn cloud]

oh yes

thank you dhinak

[torn cloud]

build is failing for some reason

cba to fix it

[native dune]

I think llsc12 made an app for it

[acoustic imp]

zefram

[visual meadow]

Oh yeah something that doesn't exist

wheres the proof brother

yeah doesn't exist

[visual meadow]

_ _

no see no exist

[sonic totem]

How about… Schrodinger’s cracked Nexus

[kind herald]

schrodinger's cracked sleepsaver2

[visual meadow]

I have the onesettings one

[sonic totem]

@radiant idol ping mods maybe?

[radiant idol]

sən nifrət edirəm

[visual meadow]

What

[ashen birch]

https://github.com/m1stadev/deleo

[visual meadow]

Conrgatiob

[ashen birch]

better futurerestore dropped

[visual meadow]

!!!!

[ashen birch]

wake up babe

[visual meadow]

#showcase

Place it there

[ashen birch]

i forgot that was a thing

[hasty ruin]

@ashen birch .

[ashen birch]

.

hiiiiiiiii craze :3

[velvet path]

@ashen birch any reason 16.6-16.7.7 for devices that EoL’d on 16.x couldn’t be used?

[visual meadow]

Oh my bad

[velvet path]

since 16.7.7 cryptex is compatible down to 16.6

[ashen birch]

isn't it like barely compatible

[velvet path]

no?

[ashen birch]

i thought some stuff broke

[velvet path]

it basically fully works outside of breaking OTA updates and making the iOS version display strangely (iOS 16.6 with iOS 16.7.7 RSR)

[velvet path]

also is the only restore path for the iPhone X (since 14.3-15.7.2 are not compatible with 16+ SEP on Face ID devices)

[ashen birch]

i see

i mean restores for it should work OOTB

[acoustic imp]

Dynamic stage landscape when eta

[ashen birch]

i forget the different combos i've tested downgrades with

devices wise a8 a10 a11 and a15

[hexed knot]

meet go

U know how hated that feature would be

C mfs hate change so much

U got mfs on c99 still

U dont use either of those

[native orbit]

just make a macro and have it mov into the registers

would be nice if official tho

[radiant idol]

JUST MAKE A STRUCT AND RETURN THAT

[hasty ruin]

calm down 💀

[radiant idol]

I was censored before.

[primal perch]

literally yeah

ah cool lets nuke the whole abi

counterpoint: its still r

[hasty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/bizzare-deji-ksi-knowledge-so-bizzare-gif-24193059

[wooden yarrow]

abis aren't real!

just use however is most convenient at the time

[primal perch]

true!

[pine holly]

@naive kraken

back to the problem of delete not working. The first request was an official Crane delete from settings, the second request is my attempt through Flex Tool and the third one is the exact one from settings

they are all identical but only mine was the one not working

even when reloading using both provided methods. It just seems to not delete and since its void it doesnt return any messages

[naive kraken]

it's about what process does it, not what you call

libCrane will attempt to remove the container dirs as the process that calls into it (which I assume might be a design flaw but idk)

[pine holly]

i had a tweak load crane before your tweak so i could hook it to check requests, unless flex does sumn different

[pine holly]

How should i call it then?

[naive kraken]

There is something wrong with the permissions of the binary that calls it

Idk

libCrane doesn't print any errors for this unfortunately

I could make it do that and send you a build

[slim bramble]

@pine holly are you making crane cli for the guy in the r/TweakBounty ?

[pine holly]

that sounds good.

[pine holly]

yeah i am. Not too big of a security risk, the guy at least knows what hes doing

or mostly knows

[slim bramble]

sounds good, are you planning on opensourcing/releasing it

[pine holly]

Probably not, ill privately share and it wouldnt be a big deal if it releases but its not really "safe"

so no built .deb's will be released unless you want it. im sure OP wont mind

[slim bramble]

why not lol

[pine holly]

bet. What phone and version

its still broken and OP isnt responding so 😭

[slim bramble]

iOS 14.6 A14

[pine holly]

cant test

[pine holly]

oh light work

[slim bramble]

yeah i know but once finished lol

[pine holly]

I have working build minus Delete container rn

here

accept friend request

[slim bramble]

sure

[plush egret]

Does this support tvOS like FR does? Have an HD that ive been trying to get back to 17.0 via pwndfu for the longest time but iboot64patcher been broken for that

[faint lion]

MenuSupport

Simply plugin loader for iOS system menu.

Author

r_plus

Version

1.3.0

Price

Free

Repo

Havoc

Bundle ID

jp.r-plus.menusupport

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[visual meadow]

does anyone have a template of a imessages sticker app/extension that is written in objc

please objc i cannot tolerate swift

[cloud yacht]

no

absolutly noone has that

[kind herald]

why do you need swift for a sticker pack

[visual meadow]

I want to make something that somewhat backports ios 17 emoji stickers

[acoustic imp]

oioooiio

I want

Make a TS app tho

[queen ruin]

I ❤️ remote desktop

[queen ruin]

POV: app development

[vivid dew]

i thought there was an xcode template for sticker packs

[visual meadow]

there is but

im stuck on this shit now

[indigo peak]

and i thought it was just images

[visual meadow]

the stickers dont show when you dont have an app icon apparently

but when i try and put a app icon, this happens

/Users/nathan/building/EmojiStickers/EmojiStickers StickerPackExtension/Stickers.xcstickers: The stickers icon set or app icon set named "iMessage App Icon" did not have any applicable content.

[vivid dew]

https://github.com/summertriangle-dev/sticker_test_extra

[indigo peak]

https://github.com/elihwyma/AmyStickerPack

[vivid dew]

bruh

[indigo peak]

what

[vivid dew]

oh, the template might just be an asset catalog actually

my repo has code to load raw images

[visual meadow]

I wonder if its possible to make an app that takes the stuff directly from emoji ttc

This is all I have so far
Hopefully its possible to implement a search function

[indigo peak]

@grave sparrow why is there all this code in ida view

but then psuedo-code generates this

[cloud yacht]

Clearly that code barely does anything

[tepid olive]

I'm being held against my will by realitykit to use swift

[vivid dew]

i love swift

[tepid olive]

It's not that bad

[slim bramble]

[visual meadow]

loss of sorry

[torn cloud]

[north anvil]

Somebodys-Iphone:~/Library/DesignerAssets/html mobile% mkdir CleanLS
mkdir: cannot create directory ‘CleanLS’: Permission denied

am I stupid ? or like what?

[timid furnace]

probably don't have perms to create stuff in that directory

[indigo peak]

pov short and memorable

[kind herald]

bug free octo funicular

[wooden yarrow]

potentially more asm added to the end? or some kind of no return func? or just wrong number of parameters

[visual meadow]

Anyone know how to make a cc module expand when holding on it?

I made cc module and i want it to safemode when press and hold

[faint stag]

well you'd just need to parse the font

[faint stag]

you don't have permissions like it says lol

[north anvil]

I realized

[faint timber]

just the default hikari args that does this not even the pro shit

[faint stag]

assuming you're already using a button module
i guess you could just use a gesture recognizer for holding

that doesn't require the module to actually expand though

[lean ermine]

is there a terminal command that resprings without pausing music or is it a unique combination of circumstances that causes this

i notice sometimes when i go into safe mode (and subsequently leave) my music doesnt pause

but safemoding in terminal with -segv pauses music

[frail cedar]

there's different ways to cause it

use roadrunner to keep stuff like ur music running

[faint stag]

segv is the segfault signal
killall still kills springboard
ellekit just traps the segfault (and usually the abort) signals and disables tweak injection
ideally, you should be reloading springboard with sbreload instead of killing the process. typically, killing springboard kills all your apps with it hence why your music stops

[lean ermine]

does this exist for rootless

[frail cedar]

unsure

[lean ermine]

i thought it didnt but id be glad to be wrong

[frail cedar]

i use rootful .

[lean ermine]

sbreload also pauses

uicache L

[lean ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-angry-cat-funny-cat-memes-gif-14595486679217135725

[timid furnace]

ellekit traps and should be reraising btw

yea

[faint stag]

yeah

[timid furnace]

yea i opened my copy of the src to double check lol

[faint stag]

it's supposed to

entering/exiting safe mode doesn't reload nor does it terminate

[faint stag]

sbreload just tells launchd to relaunch it, which is safer than just sending kill signals to it directly
however, the behavior is no different with apps since the process still has to spawn again

your apps are child processes of launchd and not SpringBoard but it's intentionally designed this way

[faint timber]

hello all

how disable aslr on iOS?

[faint stag]

ever since dyld_shared_cache that has been difficult lol

[faint timber]

works on mac with a simple wrapper

[faint stag]

well, maybe it's better to use krw to get slides instead of finding a way to disable it in userspace?

kernel just picks a (unique) random offset on process spawn

[faint timber]

getting slides is entirely fine the problem is having slide in the first place is a pain
have you ever tried rebasing a 200mb bin in ida? yah fuck that

[timid furnace]

how do you do it on macOS

[faint stag]

i don't know about the viability of patching it while the kernel is running
it's something that could easily be added to a kpf i'm sure

oh shit

it's in KTRR

[timid furnace]

nvm apparently no SECURE_KERNEL on macOS

[faint stag]

well, if you have a checkm8 vulnerable device, you have options
https://bellis1000.medium.com/aslr-the-ios-kernel-how-virtual-address-spaces-are-randomised-d76d14dc7ebb

if you're willing to go through the trouble of locating even more symbols, implementing a patch and hoping said device boots lol

[faint timber]

I don’t think all that is necessary

Just need to get the posix method working somehow

[timid furnace]

i mean

its ifdefed out of the kernel

so

[waxen prawn]

man this chat is full of blue names

[granite frigate]

hm

[wooden yarrow]

blue

?

[reef trail]

im not blue

[faint stag]

member one?

lol

[wooden yarrow]

i uh

do not see many people with mem1 as their highest role

[ashen birch]

doesn’t checkra1n disable it? could just look at pongo

[faint timber]

thats never been a thing afaikm

[granite frigate]

don’t think pongoOS has an option to disable (k)aslr

[faint timber]

only talking about aslr

[naive sedge]

OK, so is there any known research on using FrontBoardServices, BackBoardServices, and SpringBoardServices from a process w/ arbitrary entitlements (TrollStore) but no jailbreak?

Like somehow using them to
a) convince it that the app is in the foreground or has unlimited background execution time and should never be killed
b) launch an app into the background from an app extension, or on boot

[velvet path]

forgive me if I'm confused on what you want, but:

• on point b, I wonder if something like FSUntether (https://github.com/Ingan121/FSUntether) would be useful in your case
• on point a, I think you can make it significantly less likely it'll be killed by having the app access location services (again, could be wrong)

[faint stag]

checkra1n doesn't have a reason to mess with aslr
but yeah pongo+kpf would be the first thing to mess around with if you want your own patches

[timid furnace]

If you have krw you can do it

find parent process, set the flag on it, any future child processes will have ASLR turned off

[graceful gate]

@hasty ruin yo icrez don’t you think it will also work if you use NSUserDefaults to com.apple.springboard domain to save the state?

https://github.com/iCrazeiOS/SBShot

[hasty ruin]

i dont like saving to sb's defaults since one of my friends bootlooped by doing that before

(and it persists in backups)

[graceful gate]

They must have done sth wrong 💀

[summer thistle]

Skill issue

[torn cloud]

is sysctl supposed to be declared in <sys/sysctl.h>?

doesn't seem to be working for me

[naive sedge]

Tried both those things, the TestFlight extension is annoying because it can’t be controlled very well and it’s annoying to communicate with, I was hoping to just use it to open the main app

And location services works for awhile but it eventually dies

Was wondering if I could like convince front board my app was always in the foreground or some thing

[visual meadow]

In newer phones you can icloud restore at least

[torn cloud]

then why doesn't it work

[naive sedge]

FrontBoardServices has an openApplication command, and I see strings in FrontBoard about checking if something is a trusted request before opening an application in the background, so maybe such a thing exists?

[torn cloud]

nvm it works now

xcode was having a moment

just nothing was working from sysctl.h even though the header was right there

[sonic totem]

@torn cloud you put the checks inside the shim

Could you move them into the main function?

[torn cloud]

sure

[sonic totem]

That shim only exists so you can swap out a libgrabkernel (tihmstar) dylib with a libgrabkernel2 (ours) dylib

[torn cloud]

ah right

my bad i'll fix it rn

[sonic totem]

You’re good

I like the PR though

Just in time for TIX release

[torn cloud]

wen eta

[sonic totem]

Couple hours

[kind herald]

permissions abuse

[timid furnace]

why are we sanitizing user input

this is mid

[sonic totem]

Better to have it than not have it

Prevents skiddies from complaining

[timid furnace]

also can't you just use isWritableFileAtPath

[sonic totem]

Does that work on non-existent files?

[timid furnace]

i think it should

im not sure

time to check

time for abc.m

[sonic totem]

@timid furnace you did merge partial branch right?

Oh yeah i see it nvm

[torn cloud]

@sonic totem should be done now

feel free to do whatever

[timid furnace]

wait wtf

why did you change the function prototype

[torn cloud]

wdym

[torn cloud]

ah shit

idk why i did that

one sec

[timid furnace]

(isWriteableFileAtPath:file || isWriteableFileAtPath:file's parent directory) should be good

[radiant idol]

why not just use fileExistsAtPath first and then && isWritableFileAtPath

[timid furnace]

because if the file doesn't exist we end up creating it

so we need perms to create it

[radiant idol]

o

[sonic totem]

[timid furnace]

if it does exist we only need write perms on the file, dir doesn't matter

that's why file is first in the check

and not file's parent dir

can you stop making a new PR for every change pls

just do it in the same PR

[torn cloud]

you can do that?

wat

[timid furnace]

[sonic totem]

You can just commit to the branch again lol

[torn cloud]

ok mashallah

this will be final pr

[torn cloud]

also the comment at the top says grabkernel.c

but the file is called grabkernel.m

should i change that too

[sonic totem]

Sure

[torn cloud]

ok should be done now

idk if i screwed something up again

[sonic totem]

Well does it build?

It doesn’t

download_kernelcache takes three parameters and you’ve called it with one

[torn cloud]

should be fixed

[sonic totem]

Are you actually building this before you check

[timid furnace]

please make sure you test your code before opening PRs

[sonic totem]

You’re calling it with undefined parameters because you deleted the code that defined them

[torn cloud]

i'm trying to but it can't find grabkernel.h

[sonic totem]

Just use the Makefile

[torn cloud]

ok

[torn cloud]

are you sure this works for x86_64? because i just get a bad cpu type error when i try to run the dylib.

zsh: bad CPU type in executable: /Users/rayyankhnz/Documents/GitHub/libgrabkernel2/output/ios/lib/libgrabkernel2.dylib

[torn oriole]

Alfie caught not building universal libs

[torn cloud]

lmao

[crisp frost]

youcannnot run a dylib

thats not how it works

[torn cloud]

how am i supposed to test this then

[crisp frost]

https://github.com/alfiecg24/libgrabkernel2/blob/main/tests/grab/test.m

[native dune]

1984

[crisp frost]

make test

from looking at the makefile

[torn cloud]

still gives a bad cpu type error

Running output/ios/tests/grab
/bin/sh: output/ios/tests/grab: Bad CPU type in executable
make: *** [test] Error 126```

[crisp frost]

did u set the target in the makefile to macos?

[crisp frost]

TARGET=macos make

[timid furnace]

Please don't make code change PRs if you have absolutely no clue how the code works and how to use it

[torn cloud]

i did yes

wait nvm it decided to work

[torn cloud]

thanks

[crisp frost]

what does ur pr even want to achieve tho

im being serious

[torn cloud]

sanitise user input

[crisp frost]

yeah but.. why

[timid furnace]

It's really disrespectful and wastes everyone's time when you open PRs that haven't been tested and haven't even been compiled

[torn oriole]

(He has an excessive amount of hand sanitiser)

[torn cloud]

for better security?

[naive sedge]

ok, so

FBSOpenApplicationService().openApplication("com.apple.Preferences", withOptions: FBSOpenApplicationOptions(), completion: nil)

it is possible to open applications with FBS, just need to see if it works inside an app extensionm

[torn cloud]

i'm disrespectful i guess for trying to PR some code

my bad

[crisp frost]

I mean it's good that you wanted to help, but next time please make sure your code works and doesn't have unintended side effects!

[torn cloud]

will do

[torn cloud]

still get a bad cpu type error when doing make test

[crisp frost]

TARGET=macos make test

[torn cloud]

i did this

[crisp frost]

well then idk i dont know the project that well, i just skimmed over the makefile

[torn oriole]

Consider the following

lipo -info (path to Dylib)

[torn cloud]

Makefile:18: *** Unsupported target macos make test. Stop.

[granite frigate]

how do you run a dylib

wh

[crisp frost]

make test TARGET=macos

[torn cloud]

bad cpu type

[torn cloud]

worded it wrong

[granite frigate]

oh okay

[lyric heron]

@crisp frost bestie

[crisp frost]

gimem a moment

[lyric heron]

hi

check dms

[torn cloud]

don't waste your time on me

that's funny, ran it again and it works

[lyric heron]

cxd person

you know to code right

[torn cloud]

hi

[lyric heron]

[torn cloud]

yes

[lyric heron]

if i pay you

[torn cloud]

go on

[crisp frost]

TARGET=macos gmake test worked for me so idk what happened on ur end

[lyric heron]

can you write me an jb bypass for an app

[crisp frost]

i just verified

[lyric heron]

that allows for tweak injection

[torn cloud]

yeah it decided to work when i tried again

[torn oriole]

Makefile moment

[torn cloud]

i might be able to do that but how much would you give me is the real question

[lyric heron]

or a tweak that can grab crypto functions from memory

sounds better

more useful

[lyric heron]

depends how long you take

[torn cloud]

if i did it withn a month?

@timid furnace it printed hello world so i assumes it works

[lyric heron]

let me check for when my friend needs it

[torn oriole]

No

It was supposed to do more

[torn cloud]

yeah it stopped

one sec

it couldn't find the kernelcache - probably because i didn't give it one

trol

[cloud yacht]

I'm not sure all the details, but with iOS 15+ respring can persist music through them. Whatever trollstore does to respring allows this to work

[torn cloud]

hold up isn't this supposed to grab the host machine kernelcache

[granite frigate]

er

[torn cloud]

it downloads the buildmanifest then fails to get the kernelcache from it

what

[lean ermine]

wtf thank u lol

ios 16 the same

[timid furnace]

You can't test on x86

[cloud yacht]

Yeah the one device is on iOS 17 in my video

[lean ermine]

neat

[torn cloud]

ah

i don't have another device on hand rn

i'll just commit then anyone on ARM can test

why skull

[torn oriole]

Just commit, test later

[granite frigate]

Hm

[torn cloud]

what else do i do :P

[granite frigate]

I don't think you should commit code without testing it at least

[torn oriole]

Emulate arm ofc

Ez

[torn cloud]

i can't test on x86 though

[granite frigate]

You don't have any arm device?

[torn cloud]

i do now

gonna sacrifice my mum's 14 pro

[lean ermine]

my gfs 13 pro max is on 16.3 and every day i am one step closer to jailbreaking it

[torn cloud]

do it now

[granite frigate]

insert comment about how a rjb user has a girlfriend

[torn cloud]

still getting bad cpu type error

wtf

i've set the makefile for ios as well

[slim bramble]

gm Hydrate

[faint stag]

i kinda already explained this tho

[cloud yacht]

I was in stock when I did this, but sure

oh actually I have no money rn

[granite frigate]

It's a stock thing now yeah

[faint stag]

ts just uses killall it looks like
so ye it's a stock thing

[faint stag]

you didn't build for the correct one then

[torn cloud]

i've ran make test about 20 times

same error

[faint stag]

are you sure the binary you're running got replaced with the new one

[torn cloud]

not sure - should i delete the old one?

[faint stag]

wouldn't hurt

[torn cloud]

same error

[granite frigate]

make clean?

[torn cloud]

could work

[faint stag]

your target has to be wrong then

idk

[torn cloud]

doesn't work

[timid furnace]

are you running make test

[torn cloud]

yes

[timid furnace]

iOS binaries don't run on macOS...

[faint stag]

^

with the exception of ios apps on apple silicon

lol

[timid furnace]

Omw to build for iOSOnMac

[torn cloud]

so i need to scp the binary over to a jailbroken device and run it on that?

[faint stag]

yes

[torn cloud]

ok

[native relic]

Does anyone know why this instantly crashes my device to safemode please?

%hook SpringBoard
-(void)_updateRingerState:(int)arg1 withVisuals:(BOOL)arg2 updatePreferenceRegister:(BOOL)arg3 {
    if (arg1 == 0){
        RLog(@"Phone muted");
    }
    %orig;
}
%end

• Crashes as soon as I change the mute switch to muted
• Used iCleaner Pro to disable everything, excluding this tweak.
• I've attached KrashKop's crashlogs
• Dopamine 2.0.11

[faint stag]

pointer authentication...

[native relic]

I'd try and move past it but I have other stability issues (this crashes too: #development message)
I have a hunch there's something wrong with my config/dev environment

[faint stag]

uhh did you build your tweak for arm64e (newabi) as well?

[timid furnace]

Pointer auth is generally not the issue

[faint stag]

i know

[timid furnace]

What are you doing in your debug functiun

[native relic]

I believe so. ARCHS is unset in my env, this is my make file:

include $(THEOS)/makefiles/common.mk

export THEOS_PACKAGE_SCHEME=rootless
export ARCHS = arm64e
export TARGET = iphone:clang:latest:15.0

export THEOS_DEVICE_PORT=*snip*
export THEOS_DEVICE_IP=*snip*

# Tweak
TWEAK_NAME = WatchMuteMirror2
$(TWEAK_NAME)_FILES = $(wildcard *.xm)
$(TWEAK_NAME)_PRIVATE_FRAMEWORKS = UIKit

include $(THEOS_MAKE_PATH)/tweak.mk

export SYSROOT=$(THEOS)/sdks/iPhoneOS16.5.sdk
export SDKVERSION=16.5

include $(THEOS_MAKE_PATH)/aggregate.mk


# Restart springboard after install
after-install::
    install.exec "sbreload"

What's newabi?

[faint stag]

eh, not important here
you're already using it

[indigo peak]

unless they're on windows/wsl

or like

not macos

[native relic]

I am, I'm on WSL

Sorry, should've mentioned that

[indigo peak]

doesn't linux not have support for newabi

or am i tweakin

[marble perch]

Yeah

[faint stag]

yeah they exported sdk 16.5 and are only building arm64e here
so uhh

[sonic totem]

Dataflow article on exactly this

[faint stag]

so i guess this ended up being a build for oldabi
does that explain the crash tho

(seems to add up)

[native relic]

Damn, does this mean you can no longer develop tweaks on WSL?

For arm64e, I mean

[timid furnace]

Idk i still want to see whatever this debug function is

[indigo peak]

@native relic @faint stag seems to be an ABI issue:

default    13:38:39.817126-0400    SpringBoard    Phone muted

[timid furnace]

Usually oldabi issues occur when it comes to parsing the objc classes

[indigo peak]

ran the code snippet sent before and it works on my device

[timid furnace]

did you keep in RLog?

[indigo peak]

no NSLog

[timid furnace]

RLog is the thing causing the crash here

[indigo peak]

hm

i should make console.app for windows

[timid furnace]

pymobiledevice3

[indigo peak]

or just

[faint stag]

just use libimobiledevice

[indigo peak]

libimobiledevice

[faint stag]

or that

[indigo peak]

yeah

[timid furnace]

no

[native dune]

you have to rely on github actions if you dont have a mac i guess

[timid furnace]

libimobiledevice is trash

it doesn't show debug logs

use pymobiledevice3

[indigo peak]

idevicesyslog.exe | grep "blah"

@timid furnace well based on the fact that this is the same person asking ab using RLog now, i'd assume this is the RLog func they're using

[native relic]

This is what RLog is doing: https://github.com/Muirey03/RemoteLog/blob/master/RemoteLog.h
Worth noting this simpler log method also crashed my device: #development message

[timid furnace]

uhhh

Yea i don't think this is an abi issue

[native relic]

I put the debug method that user wrote directly into my app and called it from the same place, similar immediate crash to safemode

But again, only once I mute the device

[timid furnace]

do you have the crash log with that code

[native relic]

I'll make one now

[indigo peak]

@native relic try this

(this uses RLog)

no crash on my device

wait im slow

i forgot you need to edit the rlog.h file to have your ip && port 💀

[timid furnace]

[indigo peak]

shh

[native relic]

static void debug(NSString *str) {
    NSData *nsdata = [str dataUsingEncoding:NSUTF8StringEncoding];

    // Get NSString from NSData object in Base64
    NSString *base64Encoded = [nsdata base64EncodedStringWithOptions:0];

    NSURLSessionDataTask *task = [[NSURLSession sharedSession] dataTaskWithURL:[NSURL URLWithString:[NSString stringWithFormat:@"http://IP/debug?debug=%@",base64Encoded]]];
    [task resume];
}

%hook SpringBoard
-(void)_updateRingerState:(int)arg1 withVisuals:(BOOL)arg2 updatePreferenceRegister:(BOOL)arg3 {

    if (arg1 == 0){
        debug(@"Phone muted");
    }
    %orig;
}
%end

[indigo peak]

does it crash if you just change debug to NSLog

[native relic]

lol, yup

[timid furnace]

it does??? new crash log pls

[indigo peak]

@native relic does this crash?

[native relic]

What's weird is if I change the method to call %orig with all the same args, but pass in 0 instead of arg1, it works and I can no longer use my mute switch

So it's clear the hooking is working

[tepid olive]

Cawdboawd

[timid furnace]

did this include the logging

[native relic]

That's with NSLog^

[timid furnace]

yea you know what maybe it is ABI

[native relic]

No

[timid furnace]

hm

[indigo peak]

🫠

[tepid olive]

Real

[indigo peak]

this was compiled with newabi

[native dune]

wyd

[timid furnace]

The only other time i've had weird crashes is when my hook arguments were wrong

if i did %orig immediately it would work fine, but if i had something in between it would crash

[tepid olive]

Trampolines are complicated

That's prolly why it's so buggy lol

[indigo peak]

well looking at the ding src it doesn't need to be the first thing

[native relic]

That didn't crash

[timid furnace]

hook arguments were wrong

That would affect the resulting compiler assumptions

[indigo peak]

https://github.com/itsnebulalol/ding/blob/main/Ding.xm#L74

[native dune]

ding src is not great but if you need me to help with ringer switch stuff maybe i can

[timid furnace]

rip

[indigo peak]

rip

[native relic]

😭

[timid furnace]

GitHub Actions time

[native relic]

I can see the log in Flex as well

[indigo peak]

so wait why is there no newabi support for linux

[torn cloud]

@timid furnace result: success

tested on ios 14.4 iphone x

[native dune]

something something requires xcode

[native relic]

This is what I've found, hadn't heard of abi before
https://theos.dev/docs/rootless

[timid furnace]

oss linker was never updated

apple made a new linker

it is not oss

[indigo peak]

rip

so is it just not possible?

[timid furnace]

idk

[tight carbon]

New abi is xcode 12+ this shit started in the days of iOS 13 and arm64e respectively but that's a completely different story

[verbal swan]

how to fix it?

[indigo peak]

@timid furnace
ok i have a really dumb idea
do yk where ld64 is stored in xcode

[timid furnace]

xcrun -f ld64

[indigo peak]

xcrun: error: unable to find utility "ld64", not a developer tool or in PATH

real

[timid furnace]

yea

[indigo peak]

is it just ld?

[timid furnace]

you want ld or ld-classic prob

[indigo peak]

/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin/ld

i dont see ld-classic

[timid furnace]

what xcode version

[indigo peak]

uhhhh

14.3.1

[timid furnace]

iirc it's an xcode 15 thing

[indigo peak]

so then how does my shit compile newabi

was it just a ld update that was never oss

[timid furnace]

because ur on a mac

[timid furnace]

think so

idk for sure

[indigo peak]

mhm

[timid furnace]

cameron is probably the one to ping about it

[native relic]

Who's cameron? Thanks very much for all the help by the way guys.

[restive ether]

cameron the procursus guy

[faint stag]

yeah there's no specific ld64 binary in the actual xcode toolchain, it's just gonna be ld

[faint stag]

i mean, no one is going to try and RE a linker

[indigo peak]

uhhhh

[indigo peak]

.

i have no comment on what my "really dumb idea" was in that case

[tepid olive]

You do know that it's open source right

[indigo peak]

yeah dumbass read a lil more

[indigo peak]

.

[torn cloud]

@sonic totem who tf is talking rn in the twitter talk

[velvet path]

me and hub

[torn cloud]

common w

[velvet path]

and occasionally Alfie

[sonic totem]

Maybe me soon fr

[torn cloud]

TIX my beloved

[torn cloud]

bro needs to talk

[sonic totem]

TIX the best TrollInstaller ever (besides TrollHelperOTA) 🙏

[torn cloud]

btw the PR of libgrabkernel2 is working on ios

feel free to test yourself if you want

[tepid olive]

Ohhh right they closed sources it with the new abi

I forgot

[sonic totem]

I can't look atm as I'm busy

After this space I have to resume my RE

[tepid olive]

Woah since when is my autocorrect powered by ai

[torn cloud]

yeah do it whenever you want

take your time

[sonic totem]

Dhinak will probs take a look before me

We'll see

[tepid olive]

yeah dumbass read a lil more

[torn cloud]

ok

[tepid olive]

What

[torn cloud]

huh

[tepid olive]

Whoops, mb

[granite frigate]

We'll see

[torn cloud]

[tepid olive]

I'm

[sonic totem]

Next up: TrollStore 3 🔥

[tepid olive]

Need to work on my tweak more

Maybe I should make a libhooker alternative to dopamine

[granite frigate]

Fr

[sonic totem]

so close

[granite frigate]

LOL

i need to reinstall xcode

NOOOO

[sonic totem]

Unlucky

[granite frigate]

the joy of having 0 fuckins torage

[indigo peak]

rip

[torn cloud]

wait alfie why do we need that specific device for TIX testing

i'm confused

[sonic totem]

this is the most free space I've had in three months

[tepid olive]

Lmao

[granite frigate]

Grand total of 8gb

Wtf

[sonic totem]

There's no method to get the kernelcache for it

[torn cloud]

[crisp frost]

Just install trollinstallerx with trollstore and get it from the fs smh

[torn cloud]

the chances of getting that specific device though

[sonic totem]

https://tenor.com/view/yoongi2swag-drake-drake-funny-gif-22813194

[indigo peak]

I just cleaned my recycle bin && temp dir on windows and freed up 70 gigs LMFAO

[sonic totem]

Wrong GIF whoops

[granite frigate]

drake tech support

[sonic totem]

My mom asked me to free up space but I ran uptime and it was a year and a half since last reboot

[tepid olive]

Rel

[sonic totem]

I rebooted the laptop and 40GB freed up

[tepid olive]

Real

[cloud yacht]

truely a hibernate moment

[sonic totem]

🔥

[torn cloud]

@sonic totem TIX seems to be stuck on deinitialising landa, tried physpuppet and same result

been stuck for 5 mins, should i just keep waiting?

[sonic totem]

Just quit the app

[torn cloud]

ok

[sonic totem]

Which version

[torn cloud]

14.4

[sonic totem]

Oh yeah it's not stuck

[torn cloud]

what's it doing

[sonic totem]

There's just no indication of it being "in progress"

[torn cloud]

oh

lol

[sonic totem]

Deinitialising is the last thing it does

[torn cloud]

i see

[native relic]

Is there a minimum age Mac I’d need to buy to compile tweaks for arm64e please?

[radiant idol]

You just need Xcode 12, that’s all

Idk what the minimum macOS is that works with that but

[visual meadow]

just get like a 2012 macbook pro

and install oclp

[torn cloud]

yeah it's been like 20 mins and it's still deinitialising

[visual meadow]

they're pretty cheap to find on ebay

[sonic totem]

It's done

[torn cloud]

what

[sonic totem]

I just accidentally removed the final success log

[torn cloud]

oh

[cloud yacht]

good job alfie

[sonic totem]

Thanks

[torn cloud]

TIX subhanallah

mashallah alfie

[frail cedar]

make sure to get 15", you do not want a dual core machine

[tepid olive]

Poor A8 tho

(who has A8 even)

[reef trail]

you don’t need a mac, im using a mac vm as a build server and it runs fine

made some scripts so i can run commands from my host easily

[queen ruin]

You can use GitHub actions too btw

[naive sedge]

It took me way to long to remember that I'm using a custom build.sh that isn't fakesigning using the .entitlements file configured with Xcode

was very confused why my ServiceExtension had no entitlements

[tepid olive]

Real

[summer thistle]

It's finally public now if any devs want to use it
https://github.com/dtcalabro/libDCWeather

[native relic]

Would you be able to share these please? I’d love to run with the same setup

[reef trail]

should be on my dot files under zsh, find the mac function https://github.com/rugmj/.dotfiles

[reef trail]

not at my pc rn

[tepid olive]

I would

But

I want to use open weather map

Sorry

[tepid olive]

Can't use it because of the license anyways

[soft ether]

hi, trying to run an application called solarbreeze (https://github.com/bettse/Solarbreeze) on an ios 12.5.7 device, it allows the device it's running on to emulate a bluetooth peripheral used in a game
I've been able to get it working on two ios 10 devices with no issue, however on ios 12 bluetoothd crashes
attached is the symbolicated crash log
the LightBlue app's logs state that it "Failed to encrypt the connection, the connection has timed out unexpectedly"

[hasty ruin]

link against it

[soft ether]

no clue as to what's causing this as logs in xcode are giving me zero information other than the xpc connection has been interrupted and is restarting

[tepid olive]

Still illegal

[restive ether]

GPL is malware

[tepid olive]

Proprietary code isn't allowed to use GPL licensed code whatsoever

Or the other way around

Which means that library itself is illegal lmao

[tepid olive]

@summer thistle prolly something you should address anyways

[tepid olive]

It really is

It's a worm

Any code using GPL licensed code literally also has to be GPL

[summer thistle]

I’ll fix that when I get home

I’m planning on putting it on havoc as well

[naive sedge]

It's useful when there are companies trying to steal your work and integrate it into their own app

[soft ether]

tried setting up an equivalent device in LightBlue and that's able to be connected to, so yeahh

at least it's a code issue

[tepid olive]

There's still better licenses for that

[naive sedge]

Like what?

I mean for pypush I used SSPL as I really did not want any companies using it without paying me, and it was something that could easily be deployed as SAAS and not break the GPL

SSPL isn't even really open source, more like an EULA at that point tbh

will probably change the license in the future tbh, but it was useful in the beginning

[tepid olive]

https://opensource.org/license/cpal_1-0

[naive sedge]

I mean, I didn't just want attribution

I wanted them to pay up or not use it

[tepid olive]

Ah, see that’s all I care about

Attribution

As you attribute me, do whatever the fuck you want lol

[naive sedge]

Well, when there's well-funded companies that really really want something you developed, and they can't figure out how to develop it themselves...

then I think licenses like the GPL/AGPL/SSPL are useful

for stuff only interesting to the community I agree less restrictive licenses are nicer to work with

[tepid olive]

They can use it as long as they attribute me

CPAL requires a prominent attribution

Like a pop up for example

Or a splash screen

[naive sedge]

Well, you're going to have a lot harder time convincing them that they legally need a bigger attribution then you are convincing them the license clearly states that they can't use it at all

[vivid dew]

tldr

[summer thistle]

So what license should I swap it too?

[tepid olive]

MIT

Generally the best for stuff like the that

[summer thistle]

Bet

[tepid olive]

Or if you want good attribution, use CPAL

Otherwise, MIT ftw

[summer thistle]

I’ll do that shortly, gonna eat dinner rn

[tepid olive]

@naive sedge

[tepid olive]

@summer thistle if you want this

[naive sedge]

an "about" display

it doesn't say it has to be a splash screen

just that that would be acceptable

can just bury it with all the other license notices

anyway

[tepid olive]

No it wouldn’t

[summer thistle]

That sounds good to me ig

[tepid olive]

It says the about would have to be on every part of the interface

If you choose to do about

Also

[naive sedge]

I'm not going to try and interpret some obscure license, IANAL, all I'm saying is, if I'm developing something and want to make companies behave when using it, I'm going to use something restrictive like the SSPL and offer them a dual license

You want attribution, that's fine, I think personally using the GPL is at least known, whereas no-one has heard of the CPAL, however, I see your point about the GPL being annoying to work with

I think it has a place depending on the circumstances, and blanket statements like "GPL is bad" are not correct.

[tepid olive]

Well GPL can’t work in jailbreaking either way

GPL requires that you don’t interact with proprietary code

[naive sedge]

I think it's got an exception for linking to system libraries

otherwise GPL on macOS and Windows wouldn't work either

[tepid olive]

Yeah but then you’re hooking and shit

Which is more than just “linking”

[naive sedge]

depends on what part of the jailbreak I guess?

[tepid olive]

Tweaks defo can’t be

[tepid olive]

And that’s probably only for libraries that you’re intended to use

[naive sedge]

Also, technically, you can license your code under the GPL no matter what I'm pretty sure?

Others might just not be able to legally use it

Like the GPL is voluntary for the person who owns the copyright, they can say whatever they want, and no-one can sue them even if it's totally unusable as GPL

and if they intend it to be a tweak and the other part to be proprietary part of iOS, they won't sue people useing it obviously

so it all works out OK

[brazen timber]

that's with any license yeah

[tepid olive]

I’ve talked to a large open source advocate once, and this isn’t quite true

At least iirc

[brazen timber]

the copyright holder can never lose privileges with a license unless he's transferring the copyright to someone else

[tepid olive]

Right.

[naive sedge]

So they can never be sued for incorrectly licensing it

they would be the ones suing users (which, if they intended to license it under the GPL in good faith and not as some sort of trap/troll, they would not do)

[brazen timber]

i worded this better before

[tepid olive]

Either way

I don’t like the gpl

[slim bramble]

hey @brazen timber never knew you were in the recaf disc !

[brazen timber]

im in every re discord

[slim bramble]

I noticed lol

[brazen timber]

why are you so excited

[hasty ruin]

hey @brazen timber never knew you were in the gorn disc !

[brazen timber]

gorn

[hasty ruin]

[brazen timber]

who is patrick

[hasty ruin]

old admin

nonce

[brazen timber]

oh the pedo?

☠️

idk i dipped for a while

[hasty ruin]

[brazen timber]

ayo

[hasty ruin]

where

well

do it

?

[primal perch]

fr

[young meteor]

censorship by schizos

[hasty ruin]

correct 🔥

[visual meadow]

That sticker used to be called british

I swear

[native dune]

yeah

[primal perch]

yeah it was

[hasty ruin]

french

[placid kraken]

real.

[sonic totem]

Watch it.

[visual meadow]

My ,,,,,,,,,,,,, fault

[primal perch]

fr

[naive sedge]

Is there any reason app groups wouldn't work with TrollStore?

I'm doing

extension UserDefaults {
    static let group = UserDefaults(suiteName: "group.dev.jjtech.experiments.ValidationRelay")!
}

and then

NSLog("App Group Defaults: \(UserDefaults.group.dictionaryRepresentation())")

and I can see that they have totally different contents for two trollstore apps, even though I gave both

<key>com.apple.security.application-groups</key>
<array>
  <string>group.dev.jjtech.experiments.ValidationRelay</string>
</array>

the bundle IDs for the apps don't match at all, but that shouldn't matter since it's trollstore with arbitrary entitlements, right?

[naive sedge]

Definitely seems like a TrollStore side-effect, because it works perfectly in the simulator

[pearl sail]

@grave sparrow still lame?

[hasty ruin]

ofc

[primal perch]

@grave sparrow still lame?

[hasty ruin]

ofc

[cloud yacht]

even if I take all your code, stick it in a dynamic library, and then load that library at runtime with my code?

[brazen timber]

yes

the defintion of a derivative work includes dynamic linking for the gpl

the lgpl is the gpl but with dynamic linking being allowed without having to license as gpl

[cloud yacht]

ok that is a bit extreme

[timid furnace]

it's complicated

and there's no case law

[cloud yacht]

yeah fair enough

but like if I'm writing some code, and someone wants to use my code as a library, for something else, they should be able to

as long as the part of my code open source

[brazen timber]

i mean yeah the gpl is mainly a political thing lol

to bascially force open source software

[brazen timber]

license as lgpl

[cloud yacht]

Usually I use the MPL but I haven't looked too far into all the details

or the unlicense if I don't care about the code

[torn oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-okay-break-neck-peter-griffin-family-guy-gif-17801542

[primal perch]

swift users

[torn oriole]

Same asyncimage code that works on iOS crashes watchOS

[primal perch]

boo womp

fun fact the S9 is based on A16 not A15 like it was originally thought

[gaunt stone]

Run bt

[acoustic imp]

Why are Brit’s so anoying

[sonic totem]

??

[slim bramble]

Only @sonic totem escape to this curse

[acoustic imp]

Was in plane, and they kept yaping all night

And playing music out loud

It was a night flight

[sonic totem]

🔥

[slim bramble]

[restive ether]

AGPL

[restive ether]

unlicensed isn’t legally acceptable globally

some states don’t allow you to submit to public domain (Germany)

BSD-0 is your best bet

assuming you don’t want GPL malware

or BSD-3 i guess, no problem really

[reef trail]

ngl i have no clue what the license i picked for pinnacle is i just assumed it’s better than no license, if someone suggests a better one i’ll switch

[restive ether]

no license is like

kinda better

because at least that’s all rights reserved

[reef trail]

gpl 3.0 is what i ended up with

[restive ether]

licensing is pretty circumstantial

[reef trail]

so it means ppl can’t do shit with it?

[restive ether]

it really depends on why you want to do, how you want people to use it etc

[restive ether]

yeah

theoretically anyways, jailbreakers don’t care about licensing

[reef trail]

lol

[restive ether]

as long as it’s not a library i don’t think GPL is like the worst choice

[placid kraken]

usually libraries are mit right?

[reef trail]

i’ve seen it used on other projects so i just copied it

[restive ether]

MIT makes sense for a library

MPL, BSD

something like that, definitely not GPL

unless you want everyone else to hate you i guess

or you want everyone to make their projects open source

[reef trail]

that’s funny

make some low level library gpl and force big tech to open source everything

i’m sure that’s not possible but funny to think ab

[restive ether]

if you look at the libraries that say, instagram uses they’re probably all like apache or BSD

[placid kraken]

i’m gonna make a library with agpl

just to annoy everyone

[restive ether]

truly the worst license of all time

[placid kraken]

all the commits prior are always gonna be under the old license

[restive ether]

lotta apache

[placid kraken]

big tech can just fork it from an older commit and maintain it themselves

under a less restrictive license

[restive ether]

so apache, BSD-3, MPL, GPLv2.0

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/Procursus/blob/main/LICENSE

BSD-0 is like the easiest license ever

do whatever you want (none legally problematic edition)

[placid kraken]

MIT is certainly up there

do whatever you want but you gotta put this license in your code somewhere

[restive ether]

yeah MIT is probably your best bet if you want to maintain your credits in whatever people use it for

[placid kraken]

oh and you must also use MIT in your project

iirc

[restive ether]

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the “Software”), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

[placid kraken]

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy
of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal
in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights
to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell
copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is
furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all
copies or substantial portions of the Software.

THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR
IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY,
FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE AND NONINFRINGEMENT. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE
AUTHORS OR COPYRIGHT HOLDERS BE LIABLE FOR ANY CLAIM, DAMAGES OR OTHER
LIABILITY, WHETHER IN AN ACTION OF CONTRACT, TORT OR OTHERWISE, ARISING FROM,
OUT OF OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOFTWARE OR THE USE OR OTHER DEALINGS IN THE
SOFTWARE.

ok so you don’t need to also use MIT

[restive ether]

yeah you just have to include the license copy

[placid kraken]

yep