development

[summer thistle]

Whitename mistake

[radiant idol]

yes

[summer thistle]

Lemme pull some code up and see how I’ve done it from c before

[radiant idol]

I can't believe you'd ever think I'd write sw*ft

[native orbit]

print the current env vars form environ

[radiant idol]

sure one sec

[indigo peak]

cars*

[radiant idol]

true

[summer thistle]

I was mixing u up with icraze

Speaking of cars fiore, how’s that turbo coming along?

[radiant idol]

man what

my logging window lagged

[native orbit]

rlog moment

[radiant idol]

no

[native orbit]

o

[summer thistle]

u

[radiant idol]

I just realized my logs are synchronous

I should probably

uh

change that

[summer thistle]

[radiant idol]

@native orbit

so hm

I overwrite PATH here then I guess?

[radiant idol]

bro

[summer thistle]

I was talking about myself duhhh

[native orbit]

just copy all the vars into a new array first

then edit it

[radiant idol]

ah sure that makes more sense

[radiant idol]

ok setting this as PATH seems to have worked

but uh seems not great so I will look into how to fix this

[summer thistle]

why does it not seem great?

[radiant idol]

well

I feel like this exact string isn't the same across all devices

[summer thistle]

i mean, its not guaranteed, but like most if not all rootless jailbreaks should be the same

[radiant idol]

let env = ["PATH": "/var/jb/usr/bin:$PATH"]

this is what Derootifier does. I think what I'll do is do the same thing where I prepend /var/jb/usr/bin/: to the original string

[summer thistle]

yeah, just do that

[radiant idol]

seems decent enough for me

mhm

[summer thistle]

if it works, thats all that matters

its not like u need it to resolve any of the other paths

[radiant idol]

yeah

[summer thistle]

so just put usr/bin cuz that's what u need

[radiant idol]

yeah that worked

nice

[summer thistle]

awesome

[faint stag]

yeah libiosexec should handle it

[radiant idol]

nice

[faint stag]

ideally it would be set in the env

which the shell inherits

[radiant idol]

btw

is it fine to run the script as async

because it takes a while

[tepid olive]

https://nelua.io

I'm switching to this

compiles to native code

[radiant idol]

you switch languages more than anyone else

geez

[tepid olive]

it's the same syntax as lua

except you can embed C

import C

etc

[radiant idol]

just

write

C

or

[tepid olive]

no

[radiant idol]

objc

yes

[tepid olive]

no

[native orbit]

write asm

[radiant idol]

just want to know this so I dont do something stupid later on and regret it

[tepid olive]

fine

damn it

[radiant idol]

good

[tepid olive]

I don't feel like rewriting though

[tepid olive]

this at least lets me use my existing code

I also really don't like objc syntax

[native orbit]

its good imo

[tepid olive]

I mean it's fine

I'm just not a big fan of the whole

@

I don't like looking at @

ideally I'd like to use C#

C# is the best programming language I have ever used

it has the best things of all my favorite languages

I know Xamarin exists

but I don't think I could use it for tweaks

(?)

nevermind

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/deploying/native-aot/?tabs=net8plus%2Cwindows

[native orbit]

the use of @ does get annoying fr

[tepid olive]

just curious

any other C# fans out here?

[tepid olive]

this has the limitations of no reflection though

I could use JIT for .NET, but that requires compiling the runtime for iOS which I don't really want to do XD

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/announcing-dotnet-maui-in-dotnet-8/

damn

I could even use C# UI stuff

time to bust out rider

[steady nest]

gl with windows forms on mac

[tepid olive]

this exists for a reason now

[steady nest]

now

it’s not even mature

doesn’t work on linux

[native orbit]

this is how much i hate C#: I would rather use swift

[steady nest]

and xaml is the worst thing in existence

[tepid olive]

what did C# do to you

[steady nest]

no live preview of what you’re doing

[native orbit]

be the worst lang ever

[steady nest]

no drag and drop editor

[tepid olive]

but why

what about it is so horrible

[steady nest]

yet my peers decided to use it for an internal tool 6 months ago

the application is obviously shit

[tepid olive]

hm

[native orbit]

slow, microsoft, mid syntax, hell if not using vs

[tepid olive]

it isn't hell if using rider

I really like the syntax

but I guess it isn't for everybody

[tepid olive]

is there a way to work around it lol

[steady nest]

tldr it’s shit if you’re not using windows

[slender glade]

markup based UIs are fucking garbage

[tepid olive]

yeah trueee

[slender glade]

like

[tepid olive]

programmatic UI my beloved

[cloud yacht]

Was just thinking can you chroot on iOS?

[tepid olive]

uh, maybe...?

[slender glade]

xaml sucks, storyboards suck, nibs suck

[tepid olive]

real

swiftUI and UIKit are the only ways to go

[slender glade]

there is 0 reason to even use a markup language for UI

[slender glade]

unironically

[tepid olive]

(UIKit is kind of messy)

at least imo

I don't like calling a million functions to get a UI

but I also don't like swift

I just use GPT4 to generate swiftUI for me

(it's actually pretty good at it btw)

[slender glade]

UIKit is the least messy thing ever

[tepid olive]

show me code for a complex UI using UIKit then

[slender glade]

go on gh there's a lot there

and like what even is messy to do in UIKit?

[tepid olive]

(tbf I've never used UIKit)

[slender glade]

...

[tepid olive]

but don't you have to call a bunch of functions

each with at least like 4 arguments

[slender glade]

what

buddy what

[slim bramble]

Tf is blud on about

https://tenor.com/view/he-was-forced-to-use-php-php-seal-gif-5490578701630315793

[native orbit]

cursed macros prolly

[slender glade]

this year's UIKit method budget is 4 arguments

next year it'll be 5 inshallah

[tepid olive]

wait

but does objc

have concurrency

I need multithreading

[slim bramble]

[tepid olive]

no seriously

I need multithreading

[slender glade]

libdispatch

[slim bramble]

Ok, what kind of language is objc

It’s a low level

[native orbit]

might be back to 3 if the stocks drop

[slim bramble]

What does low level programming language allows you to do ?

Threading

💀

[tepid olive]

it's a restricted low level language

[native orbit]

oop as well

[slim bramble]

No ?

[slender glade]

restricted

[slim bramble]

What are you on about ?

[slender glade]

doesn't really mean much when there's 300 public frameworks to choose from

[tepid olive]

OOP + C = bad

[tepid olive]

oop never belonged in C imo

[native orbit]

private frameworks > public frameworks

[slender glade]

objc's way of doing oop is excellent

[native orbit]

fr

[tepid olive]

it's horrible

[slender glade]

dude what

[tepid olive]

it's not cross platform

[slim bramble]

Then you are too bad to use it ?

[native orbit]

best use of oop in a lang ever imo

[slim bramble]

Skill issue

[slim bramble]

Java :

[slender glade]

how is the availability of objc related to how it is as an oop lang

[tepid olive]

I think you mean C#

[slim bramble]

C# sucks

[tepid olive]

I'm talking about the objc runtime

[slender glade]

objc does oop way better than c# and java lol

[tepid olive]

it's required for OOP

[slim bramble]

Java is a lot better than c#

[tepid olive]

...

java is horrible

[slender glade]

well idk what to tell u

[slim bramble]

No ?

[tepid olive]

msgsend

I mean sure it's better than C# and Java

[slim bramble]

The fact it is compiled makes it better 🤷‍♂️

[tepid olive]

every language is compiled at some point

[tepid olive]

Kotlin better imo

[slim bramble]

Python :

[tepid olive]

it's compiled at some point

the interpreter

[slim bramble]

Sure but python by itself isn’t

[tepid olive]

true

[slim bramble]

Oh god not that braindead argument again please

[tepid olive]

it has native objc interop

https://kotlinlang.org/docs/native-objc-interop.html

[slim bramble]

I’m talking about the language not the objc interop

Smh

[native orbit]

so does swift, and its ass

[tepid olive]

well

[slim bramble]

Fr

[tepid olive]

they use the runtime

right

they both use msgSend under the hood, no?

[slim bramble]

Kotlin sucks a lot more than java

[slim bramble]

That’s literally how objc works

[tepid olive]

I know that

You think I wouldn't no that after using objc in like 20 different languages lmfao

[slim bramble]

Maybe don’t ?

You’re adding another abstraction layer

[native orbit]

lets see u use objc in bash next

[slim bramble]

Fr

I want to see that

Oh lol now I want to make tweaks in java

[tepid olive]

you defo could with kotlin, not sure about javar

[slim bramble]

[tepid olive]

no java wouldn't be too great

you can't compile java to native can you?

[slim bramble]

Kotlin sucks I don’t want to loose my mind using that stupid thing

[tepid olive]

i don't remember the last time I used java

[slim bramble]

You can

But not officially

[tepid olive]

ah

google wtf

https://developers.google.com/j2objc

[native orbit]

you can compile sh scripts with some cursed tool

[restive ether]

you can obfuscate scripts

[restive ether]

u0 does it

[slim bramble]

It adds rm /var at th end of the scripts

[tepid olive]

google why would you do this

[restive ether]

[[shc]]

[faint lion]

shc

Shell script compiler
SHC is a generic shell script compiler. It takes a script, which is specified on the command line and produces C source code. The generated source code is then compiled and linke...

Author

Hayden Seay

Version

4.0.3

Price

Free

Repo

Procursus

Bundle ID

shc

Powered by Canister · Mar 28, 2024, 6:08 PM

[native orbit]

ofc pwn would do that

[restive ether]

i think they used this

[slim bramble]

Pwn?

[tepid olive]

oh my god this is so cursed

  public static native long currentTimeMillis() /*-[
    // Use NSDate
    return (long long) ([[NSDate date] timeIntervalSince1970] * 1000);
  ]-*/;

[native orbit]

pwn20wnd, guy that made unc0ver

[slim bramble]

Oh

Lol

[tepid olive]

anyways

why hasn't someone made a logos language server

[radiant idol]

just

write

code

like

a

normal

person

[slim bramble]

^ this translates to : "don’t use any cursed languages to make tweaks"

[native orbit]

ok i will write more asm then

[radiant idol]

or

you can fix str_patcher

😠

[native orbit]

apps borken

[radiant idol]

yes

[native orbit]

stay broken

[radiant idol]

no

[native orbit]

rest work

[radiant idol]

fix

it

[native orbit]

🙏

[radiant idol]

:(

[native orbit]

just make uialert that says no apps or orion

[tepid olive]

@radiant idol I just really don't wanna rewrite lmfao

[radiant idol]

but then people are still gonna wanna use xina x dopamine

[tepid olive]

(well actually my lua was rewritten from objc that I still have, and I barely added anything so)

[native orbit]

nah, that one tweak and apps, no one cares about the apps

[radiant idol]

but

hold on

[tepid olive]

@radiant idol favorite editor?

[radiant idol]

I use vsc

[tepid olive]

I just need highlighting

[radiant idol]

logos literally has higlighting

bru

[tepid olive]

since when

[radiant idol]

since forever

[native orbit]

like

[radiant idol]

lol

[native orbit]

since vscode existed

[tepid olive]

what

[radiant idol]

sec

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=tale.logos-vscode

[tepid olive]

still using swiftUI for prefs though

[indigo peak]

[radiant idol]

why is it so hard for you to just be normal

smh

[tepid olive]

swiftUI has more capability than uikit lol

[radiant idol]

no it literally doesn't??

[tepid olive]

• I already have a nice looking swiftUI preferences

[radiant idol]

@native orbit some tweaks like ChargeAnimations seem to break the patcher

frcoal

[native orbit]

like segfault kinda break or?

[radiant idol]

yes

[tepid olive]

can I do string encryption in objc though

[native orbit]

oh

[placid kraken]

we had c hashtag and c plus plus now we have c multiply

[slim bramble]

™️

[native orbit]

str_patcher issue or repacker issue?

[tepid olive]

need to encrypt my API key

[radiant idol]

not sure atm

lemme see

[tepid olive]

c hashtag

[hexed knot]

Why

[tepid olive]

[slim bramble]

Is your patcher just a str_patcher ?

[hexed knot]

What are you doing

[native orbit]

waiting for c-- now

[placid kraken]

pls don’t think i actually say c hashtag unironically

🙏🙏🙏🙏

i’m not that uneducated

[slim bramble]

@tepid olive Do you realise that obfuscating it is useless ?

[radiant idol]

@native orbit str_patcher

kek

[tepid olive]

because 1K requests per day, if more than that I get charged per request and if I go over 2K then I get banned

[native orbit]

[hexed knot]

??

[native orbit]

[radiant idol]

fix

now

[tepid olive]

openweathermap

[slim bramble]

Will Smillie

[hexed knot]

That has nothing to do with what i asked

[native orbit]

send deb in dms

and args u used

[radiant idol]

what a bout it

[tepid olive]

you asked why I need to encrypt my API key

that is why

[slim bramble]

@tepid olive Obfuscating it is useless

[radiant idol]

just clone the project, compile it, and run rootlesspatcherv1 <deb>

[slim bramble]

Idk

[hexed knot]

Doesnt weatherkit exist

[tepid olive]

ok then I'll just have an intermediate server

[slim bramble]

Yes

[tepid olive]

not detailed enough

[hexed knot]

Yes

Thats what youre supposed to do

Never put an api key in your app

[slim bramble]

Because I can just pull flex / any proxy and boom I have your token

[tepid olive]

[hexed knot]

Thats how u get banned from services

Not by having 2k requests

But by leaking your token

[slim bramble]

That’s also why havoc says you have to proxy requests

[tepid olive]

what do y'all use to do intermediate servers

[hexed knot]

Thats why everyone says you have to

[slim bramble]

Python

[hexed knot]

Python

[tepid olive]

not what I meant

[slim bramble]

Under CF

[tepid olive]

I meant hosting servers

[hexed knot]

Anything

[slim bramble]

A rpi at home

[hexed knot]

People like hetzner

I used digitalocean because i had credits

[tepid olive]

I am not port forwarding thank you very much

[tepid olive]

oh right I have that too

github student developer pack

[slim bramble]

POV : cloudflare tunnels

[tepid olive]

hm

good point

which pi

pi 4

or 3b

[hexed knot]

Any

[tepid olive]

I have both

which one

[hexed knot]

The one you pick

[slim bramble]

4 8gb for me but all work

[tepid olive]

ok

[hexed knot]

Use the 3b

[slim bramble]

Just make sure you have enough ram and that it has a good internet connection

For example tethering it to your router is usually a good idea

[tepid olive]

is there like, a good OS for doing this

[hexed knot]

Dude

[tepid olive]

or just raspbian lite

[hexed knot]

Its not that deep

Yes

[slim bramble]

JUST FUCKING PICK ANY OS

[hexed knot]

Or anything

[tepid olive]

damn bro

no need to get so angry lmfao

just asking for opinions

[hexed knot]

Ur asking questions for every little thing

[slim bramble]

I mean what kind of question is that use what you like

😭

If you are fine with nix then go for nix

[tepid olive]

ok use what I like = arch

[hexed knot]

Ok install arch then

[slim bramble]

Good luck for that

[tepid olive]

I don't like debian

[slim bramble]

I’d recommend raspbian lite 64

[hexed knot]

Its a 15 line python script

[tepid olive]

I'm not using python

I despise python

[hexed knot]

Ok js/ts then

[slim bramble]

Ok who asked

[tepid olive]

nodeJS there you go

or luvit

[hexed knot]

Again its a 15 line script

[tepid olive]

either works for me

[tepid olive]

well I also gotta implement DRM

[hexed knot]

What kind of drm

[radiant idol]

why is this convo making me irrationally angry

[tepid olive]

idk

[hexed knot]

Teslaman flashbacks

[slim bramble]

Cuz it’s a braindead convo

[slim bramble]

LMFAO

[tepid olive]

aw thanks guys

[radiant idol]

lmfao

[tepid olive]

either way

thanks for the help

[hexed knot]

I installed nixos yesterday cuz it was the only one that would work that krum recommended

Its kinda weird

But its chill

[tepid olive]

yeah I dun like nixos too much either

[slim bramble]

I can finally get some sanity now that I’m making my own tweaks

[hexed knot]

Seems like it’ll work fine and wont break

[tepid olive]

the hard part about nixos, at least for me

[slim bramble]

I have not tried it

[tepid olive]

is that headers don't go into default search directories

[slim bramble]

I don’t want to port my config over

[hexed knot]

I havent done much with it yet

Just kinda installing shit

But steam and cs2 work fine so 🤷‍♂️

[slim bramble]

What are you installing it on ?

[hexed knot]

My pc

[slim bramble]

Oh as a main os ?

[hexed knot]

Yeah

[slim bramble]

I read that it’s goal was for servers ?

Am I wrong ?

[hexed knot]

Idk

Its linux its the same on everything

[slim bramble]

Some nix Stan are not going to like you

[lyric heron]

do any of you cuties

[granite frigate]

nix

[lyric heron]

have a 15.4.1 devicd

[granite frigate]

hmm

[hexed knot]

Most linux stans wouldnt like me

[granite frigate]

i wanted to replace brew with nix for my macbook

brew is so slow

[acoustic imp]

Yes but not in my possession atm

[granite frigate]

its annoying af

[hexed knot]

Use procursus

[slim bramble]

@acoustic imp what are you cooking btw

[granite frigate]

there's nothing in the repos

[slim bramble]

Like the new tweak

[granite frigate]

i already got apt

[hexed knot]

Unfortunate

The nix repos (atleast for linux) is really big

Like it has everything

[granite frigate]

yeah

[acoustic imp]

Not much my thing didkt work, and idfk how niceiOS does it, so i gave up. Also bc I couldn’t find anything in iOS either (objects in flex)

But I didn’t check headers

I will when I get chance

[slim bramble]

Gonna leak my next tweak in dms

[slim bramble]

@acoustic imp

[tepid olive]

very true

[native orbit]

@radiant idol fixed and pushed

[radiant idol]

oh nice

thank you :D

[native orbit]

(might have fixed orion and app issues so you should try those again)

[radiant idol]

oop

oke

[hasty ruin]

str_patcher not dead??

[native orbit]

oh shit u right, lemme revert the commit

[radiant idol]

NOO

[hasty ruin]

[native orbit]

mfw all i did was cast to a uint32_t

[radiant idol]

ah stupid things like this again

:(

[hasty ruin]

stupid things like you

[merry dew]

this is so me

[radiant idol]

mfw the commit isnt there

[native orbit]

[radiant idol]

is github lying

[granite frigate]

different branches?

[radiant idol]

it's literally not there lmao

no

one branch

[granite frigate]

wtf

[radiant idol]

weird

[native orbit]

bruh what

[radiant idol]

OH

you pushed it to that

I was looking at the original repo lmao

[native orbit]

oh yeah lol

💀

[radiant idol]

that makes more sense

[granite frigate]

how well does rootlesspatcher work rn

[radiant idol]

decently well

[lyric heron]

give me access pookie

[radiant idol]

this is crashing the app

[radiant idol]

no

[lyric heron]

why do you hate me

[radiant idol]

because you get on my nerves

go away

[lyric heron]

no

public channel

say that you love me and ill go away

[radiant idol]

no

[lyric heron]

then youre stuck with me

:3

meow

[radiant idol]

I can just block you

lol

[lyric heron]

i have alts

[radiant idol]

ok and

[lyric heron]

im in ur walls

[crisp frost]

Wtf are you all doing

[hexed knot]

annoying ass

[radiant idol]

rootlesspatcherv2

[lyric heron]

getting nighty windy to admit to love me

[radiant idol]

I DONT LIKE YOU

[lyric heron]

and that

[radiant idol]

GO AWAY

[lyric heron]

you do!

[radiant idol]

ugh

[lyric heron]

im gonna stay till u admit it!

[hexed knot]

most likeable #jailbreak member

[lyric heron]

exactly

im super nice

[slender glade]

is this vscode

[radiant idol]

yes

[slender glade]

theme?

[radiant idol]

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=MateoCERQUETELLA.xcode-12-theme

[placid kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1206150814557671424.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=uuh&quality=lossless

[radiant idol]

I expand my tailor until

uh

taylor

[slender glade]

thanks

[slender glade]

inf summation.

what

I did not take this

[placid kraken]

this is the best book i own

[slender glade]

oh wait is infinite summation just like, limit to infinity or

[slender glade]

math ass

[placid kraken]

no what

not really

remember how 1 + 2 + 3 + 4… = -1/12 and everyone is making a joke out of it

yeah that’s a series to infinity

[slender glade]

Yeah

oh

[placid kraken]

and no it is not a limit

[slender glade]

I see

oKAY GODDAMN

I'm more of a biology person and I despise mathheads

and chemists

🖕

[placid kraken]

lmao i hate biology so much

[slender glade]

DUDE

WHAT

[placid kraken]

I CANNOT RETAIN THE INFORMATION

[slender glade]

biology is so much better like what the FUCK do you mean inf summation

[slender glade]

??

girlie

biology is literally the best subject

[placid kraken]

like the content just leaves my brain as soon as i learn it 😭😭😭

[slender glade]

it's always so easy and nice to understand

[slender glade]

BUT IF U LOOK AROUND U, U CAN SEE THE HINTS OF WHAT U LEARNED

SO U CAN KEEP IT MEMORIZED

[placid kraken]

IM REALLY BAD AT STUDYING IM JUST NATURALLY GOOD AT MATHS AND CS 😭😭😭😭

[radiant idol]

why are you two so LOUD

[slender glade]

🖕 FUCK you math head

[slender glade]

i bet ur a chemist or smth

[placid kraken]

i bet ur a chemist or smth

[slender glade]

nightwind fav school subject is pissing in the sink

[slender glade]

.

.

.

.

[placid kraken]

:)

[radiant idol]

im a cs student

[placid kraken]

good luck getting hired unless you have an amazing portfolio of projects

[radiant idol]

I definitely do

mhm

[placid kraken]

i’m personally majoring in maths because at least i can use that degree for data analysis

[radiant idol]

help me

[placid kraken]

yeah so i have a few jb tweaks i made

[placid kraken]

#include atp

[slender glade]

I’m actually so done for in terms of this

[crisp frost]

I am very bad at maths ( last score was a 2.4/6 / 10 )

[slender glade]

ADENOSINE TRIPHOSPHATE 🥹🥹🥹🥹

[placid kraken]

IM GONNA CRY

[slender glade]

WHY

[crisp frost]

I forgot if it was 2.4 or 2.6

[slender glade]

Happens to the best of for us

[placid kraken]

i have a few projects :)

[crisp frost]

Man that chapter was full of cubes and triangles and shit and i just dont understand it

[slender glade]

That’s actually good

I’m so washed

[slender glade]

Don’t worry I didn’t like geometry either

[placid kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1206150814557671424.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=uuh&quality=lossless

[slender glade]

FUCK that math book

[placid kraken]

read it

it’s beautiful

[slender glade]

I’m not reading math smut

[crisp frost]

Rational Root Theorem

[placid kraken]

who deleted my message 😭

[slender glade]

ME.

[placid kraken]

WHY

[slender glade]

@placid kraken summation is useful for one thing and it’s to calculate chi square values for null/alternative hypotheses

And that’s IT.

[radiant idol]

you guys are such nerds

[slender glade]

Okay sink pisser

[radiant idol]

what

that doesnt even make sense

[slender glade]

Yes it does

[placid kraken]

ooooooo Demovoire’s Theorem oooooooo the Feynman Technique oooooooooo the Dilogarithm function oooooooooooo king’s rule

[slender glade]

OOOO HARDY WEINBERG’S LAW OOO SIMPSON’S BIODIVERSITY INDEX OOO

🖕

[placid kraken]

LMAO

[slender glade]

DIE

[radiant idol]

both of you

a

re

so

annoying

SHUT UP

[slender glade]

What subject did you love in school night wind

[placid kraken]

wait until icraze gets here

then we can have the tea party

[radiant idol]

COMPUTER SCIENCE AND MATHEMATICS

[slender glade]

Of COURSE it’s math

[radiant idol]

I DO NOT LIKE HUMANITIES CLASSES OR PHYSICS/CHEMISTRY/BIOLOGY

[slender glade]

Of COURSE

[warped sky]

Fr fr

[granite frigate]

damn my math is ass

[slender glade]

@placid kraken see who you’re pairing up with

[placid kraken]

MATHS IS FUN

[slender glade]

Me too and we’re Asian how did it happen

[granite frigate]

😭

[radiant idol]

MATH

NOT

MATHS

[placid kraken]

problem solving in general is fun

[slender glade]

YEAH YEAH FORMULAS WITH 20 EXCEPTIONS ARE SOOOO FUN

[granite frigate]

problem solving is fun but not math

[slender glade]

SHUT UP BITCH

[placid kraken]

you say mathematics not mathematic

[granite frigate]

its why i code 😭

[radiant idol]

ok lost cause

[placid kraken]

that’s not what it’s about lmao

[slender glade]

unironically what made me hate math was find domain / range of function

Okay I know but can you let me hate.

[radiant idol]

bro what

[slender glade]

dude what are you questioning.

I THINK I WAS CRYSTAL PISS CLEAR

[placid kraken]

i love to skip really far into the course and look at the hard content and be like “ok wtf is this how am i gonna do this” then actually getting there by following the course and understanding the content and actually knowing how it works has got to be the best feeling

[slender glade]

This would be nice if it made sense but it doesn’t

The best feeling is actually when you look into how something works from the inside of your cells and be like, ohhh so that’s what they mean by the mitochondria being the powerhouse of the cell

Or how mitosis occurs

Or gene frequency and population equilibrium etc

[radiant idol]

this

is

#development

go

awa

y

[placid kraken]

i recently finished the topic test for multivariable calc unit 1, which has curvature, divergence, curl & 3d curl, the jacobian matrix, the laplacian, harmonic functions, etc

after like 50 pages of working and making mistakes with the questions i finally got 19/21 on the test and it was the best feeling lol

[placid kraken]

i’m developing

[slender glade]

These words are a bit too big for nightwind

[radiant idol]

literally

now shut up

[slender glade]

She said the laplacian get the hell out of here 😭😭

[placid kraken]

ok sorry

[radiant idol]

ah

peace at last

[slender glade]

naw what r u sorry for

[radiant idol]

UFEHGHIE

[drifting heron]

new flora update wen @placid kraken

[placid kraken]

this weekend hopefully

[drifting heron]

nice

[radiant idol]

finally shatted up

[placid kraken]

i just need to fix a crash in facebook and i’ll release, there are a few other small changes too, you’ll see in the changelog

im also planning to add a way to disable flora in the keyboard altogether

shouldnt be too bad

[slender glade]

Very sorry if you’ll have to dabble into _UIKeyboardImpl

By far the worst class to reverse

[crisp frost]

Damn I was watching this conversation and randomly my nose started bleeding thats what thinking abt math does to me

[radiant idol]

biology*

[placid kraken]

why tf do you guys hate math so much

it makes sense it’s literally like programming but you don’t run it you use your brain to run it

[crisp frost]

because i suck at it

[slender glade]

Short answer or long answer

[placid kraken]

tempted to hear both

[slender glade]

short answer is “suck at it” but that’s really not nuanced at it so the long answer is

Math is really fun to figure out when you have the time and ability to

But it’s really not fun when done academically

Like in school where you’re going to be taught most math

Calculus is nice when you’re able to figure out at home

[crisp frost]

I agree with Antoine

[placid kraken]

ok see this i 100% agree with

total agreement

[slender glade]

not so nice on a standardized test when you start to hate math so much

[placid kraken]

when you’re working in your own time you can expand and research and look into other interesting aspects of what you’re learning and you can learn whatever subsection of math you want

[slender glade]

so the answer is just academia but also this applies to most scientific fields

[slender glade]

Oh for sure

[placid kraken]

in school they teach a set curriculum with no extra aspects and they teach a little bit of everything to the point that you know a little bit of stuff but not a lot of one topic specifically

[slender glade]

But academia puts so much strain on how you answer the test’s question rather than figuring out how the question itself is structured and how it relates to math

[placid kraken]

yep absolutely

[slender glade]

This is honestly why I DESPISED math in middle school

I was a bit slow so it meant that I was behind and getting low marks doesn’t paint it well

[placid kraken]

i like math because i’ve put in the effort myself to actually learn the content and figure out how it all works and make it make sense in my head

school doesn’t do that

they just give you some formulas, maybe they’ll explain how they are used or how they were derived if you’re lucky, and then you just memorize them and use them in your exam

[slender glade]

I got 97% on my last final so I’m a bit better at math now but I still am indifferent to it rather than full on liking it

[placid kraken]

it sucks but it’s school in the 21st century

[slender glade]

Applies to school for bio too imo

even tho it’s what I like and I learned most of it through school it doesn’t do it justice

Bottom line is

Academia sucks

👍

[placid kraken]

yeah

i’m sure if you were to go through all the content i did you would like math too

[slender glade]

Where’d you start

[placid kraken]

because, as a programmer, i can say the stuff i’m learning is very similar to programming in terms of problem solving abilities

[slender glade]

Or was it gradual

[radiant idol]

does anyone else understand this staturnzware

because I sure do not

[slender glade]

U may just be stupid

But no i don’t tbh lol

[placid kraken]

i started with ap calc a/b and moved on from there

[slender glade]

nvm

LOL

I’m not doing AP calculus u can count me tf out

[placid kraken]

i finished a/b within a month or two then did b/c the moved onto multivariable

and that’s what i’m doing right now

[slender glade]

YOU FINISHED AB IN A MONTH??

[radiant idol]

ok I like math

[placid kraken]

i kinda skipped through all the tutorials because it was relatively simple at first

[radiant idol]

but

no

[placid kraken]

like, the differentiation rules and limits

it got harder at IBP and differential equations but it wasn’t that bad

[slender glade]

Differentiation is easy

Limits are easy too but I just don’t understand limits to infinity

[slender glade]

I think the material we’re taking is the same and it’s easy but I can’t handle an exam like the AP Calculus one

[placid kraken]

i use DI method whenever i have to use IBP with LIATE because i fucking hate the uv-int(vdu) or whatever the standard formula is

[slender glade]

The what

[placid kraken]

basically, assuming you have some int(f(x)g(x)), you make a table of integration and differentiation with + - + -… on the differentiation column, you choose which function to integrate and which to differentiate, then you integrate one function and differentiate the other until a point when you can stop (such as the differentiation column reaching 0) then you multiply diagonally each term and add them, then you multiply the last 2 terms and add the antiderivative of that result at the end

it sounds complicated but it’s really easy in practice

it’s also fucking impossible to explain via text because it’s a table

[radiant idol]

isnt this jsut uh

integration by parts or whatever its called

[slender glade]

Oh just Substituting by positive and negative x?

[placid kraken]

yes

the DI a method

https://youtu.be/2I-_SV8cwsw?si=1Qk9p6ho1hTondOa

[radiant idol]

maybe im misremembering because im tired

[placid kraken]

use this video

[radiant idol]

BLACKPENREDPEN

YES

[slender glade]

Bet

[placid kraken]

I FUCKING LOVE BPRP

HES THE BEST TEACHER I LEARNT SO MUCH FROM HIM

[slender glade]

the most complex math in biology is like

[placid kraken]

lmfao magnification

[slender glade]

SHUT UP.

Hardy Weinbergs equation for population equilibrium

p^2+2qp+q^2=1

insanely useful formula

[placid kraken]

i was gonna say capture recapture or whatever but that’s more stats

[radiant idol]

QUADRATIC POLYNOMIAL

[placid kraken]

interesting

[radiant idol]

wait

no

well

kinda

[slender glade]

p=dominant q=recessive

such a satisfying formula

[slender glade]

are you dumb

[radiant idol]

unlike the rest of biology

[radiant idol]

no

I am tired

[slender glade]

Name me one part of biology unenjoyable other than operons

[placid kraken]

the heart

specialized cells

[radiant idol]

literally everything

its so boring

[slender glade]

SPECIALIZED CELLS R FUN

[radiant idol]

I cant stand it

[slender glade]

Anatomy is mid but the heart is still fun

[radiant idol]

ok hold on

can we all agree that

humanities classes

SUCK

[placid kraken]

why are the diagrams backwards

[slender glade]

Why are YOU backward 🖕🖕

[slender glade]

YES except English

[placid kraken]

i always say, geography is the ONE LESSON that i fell asleep in AND I NEVER FALL ASLEEP IN LESSONS

[radiant idol]

NO

LITERATURE CLASS

I HATE IT

SO

MUCH

[slender glade]

Dude

When Shakespeare said

I give sucketh my breast

he was spitting

[radiant idol]

english is my third language. it felt like I was learning a whole new language while I was reading shakespeare

I cant

stand

it

[slender glade]

Yet you talk English?? 🧐🧐🧐

[radiant idol]

you know what I mean

[placid kraken]

if only we did the great gatsby in our exams 😔

i would ace that exam the book is so good

instead i’m stuck with a christmas carol

and an inspector calls

😭

[slender glade]

ITS SO EASYv

??

[placid kraken]

YES IT IS

BUT ITS ALSO SO BORING

[slender glade]

okay

SO

can we agreeee

that

the worst one of the 3 science giants

Is chemistry

[placid kraken]

yes

[radiant idol]

no

physics

[placid kraken]

physics is like maths so i’m fine

[slender glade]

DUDE PHYSICS IS SO FIRE

[radiant idol]

I could not wrap my head around it for the life of me

[placid kraken]

and i also love astrophysics and stuff sooo

[slender glade]

nightwind I think you’re just dumb

[radiant idol]

I program for 26 hours a day

maybe i am

[slender glade]

.

[radiant idol]

I mean

its true

very fun frfr

[slim bramble]

🤨

[slim bramble]

I've fallen into the depths of SpringBoard

Where tf am I

😭

[radiant idol]

this is v1

[slim bramble]

What are all the stages ?

[radiant idol]

and this is v2 (it's much messier so I'll probably find a different system for v3)

[slim bramble]

How much of lines of code are both ?

[radiant idol]

idk

[slender glade]

@placid kraken Chemi-bio Yuri or physics-mathematics yaoi

[slim bramble]

oh fr

also is oldabi really stable ?

[radiant idol]

on iOS 16+ it's fine

[slim bramble]

What about 15 ?

[radiant idol]

I can't patch oldabi unfortunately

[radiant idol]

on iOS 15 arm64e it's somewhat unstable

iOS 15 arm64 doesn't need it

[slim bramble]

I've never had issues on iOS 14

iOS 15 Skill issue

[radiant idol]

that's because oldabi is patched automatically on iOS 14

[slim bramble]

ikr

[radiant idol]

I did publish a small write-up on it

[slender glade]

What the FUCK is get_all_cstrings’ function signature???

[radiant idol]

it makes sense

[timid furnace]

bruv you need to typedef

[radiant idol]

lmao

atp yeah

[native orbit]

stage 6 goes crazy

[radiant idol]

but I'm on my second rewrite

and I will do the third

third will probably be the final one

[native orbit]

frcoal

[radiant idol]

me when closed source tweaks that still work on iOS 15+ rootful

[native orbit]

tell that to xina users

[radiant idol]

one of the reasons I'm doing this is for futureproofing and so that symlink solutions don't need to be used anymore

[native orbit]

apple OS

[radiant idol]

I'll be honest they're usually uch smarter than the average whitename

just saying

[primal perch]

apple os

[native orbit]

they also have 8 separate status bar tweaks at once

[primal perch]

capt sounds so vexed rn

[native orbit]

zefram paniced prolly

[radiant idol]

you know what I mean smh

[slender glade]

Poor _UIStatusBar man

[primal perch]

zefram ☕

[native orbit]

build new kernel

[radiant idol]

ok wait actual question though

so

[native orbit]

🙏

[radiant idol]

ElleKit's oldabi just has the bundle id of oldabi. XinaA15 v2's oldabi has a bundle id of oldabi-xina. How would I handle that? I have this currently, but it only works for Dopamine, not XinaA15 v2

this is for the Depends: field in the control file

sorry forgot to mention that

well

I guess, yes

because on XinaA15 v2 it should depend on oldabi-xina and on Dopamine (or any other ElleKit based jailbreak) it should be oldabi

This is what [filtered other patcher] uses
cy+cpu.arm64v8 | oldabi-xina | oldabi

[native orbit]

it not being || annoys me

[radiant idol]

yes

[native orbit]

my brian thinking they flags

[radiant idol]

since rootless is iOS 15+ anyway, I don't think the firmware (<< 15.0) depends is needed anyway

so I think this should work(?)

yeah I guess I'll do this

[native orbit]

launchd_sim_hook is so cursed

[radiant idol]

me when my patcher app has a chance of crashing

man

the jank

whatever this is just the first rewrite

[native orbit]

u doing the app part now?

[naive sedge]

So, are there any good ways of staying running in the background indefinitely, and ideally be launched on reboot (preferably BFU, but AFU is OK too), with TrollStore?

Right now I'm using the location trick, but obviously that doesn't get me at-boot stuff and it also isn't ideal because you need location services

[radiant idol]

yeah, just a basic poc

because SOMEONE keeps asking me to patch debs while I'm NOT HOME

COUGH COUGH @lyric heron

[lyric heron]

who is it

[native orbit]

just be at home smh

[naive sedge]

I looked into App Extensions like the TestFlight extension trick, but that requires a willing daemon to launch your extension when you want it to, for TestFlight that is appstored, but that isn't ideal because it checks that the extension has TestFlight's bundle ID

[lyric heron]

did they purchase one settings?

[radiant idol]

no dings lied

[lyric heron]

where did i lie ☹️

[radiant idol]

everywhere

[lyric heron]

nu uh

[sonic totem]

@naive sedge have you seen https://github.com/limneos/UIDaemon?

[naive sedge]

that uses launch daemons which don't work with trollstore, right?

[sonic totem]

I think UIDaemon works

https://github.com/Lessica/TrollSpeed

This works with TrollStore + uses UIDaemon

[naive sedge]

...but how? I don't quite get what it is doing

[sonic totem]

It overlays it over SpringBoard somehow

[hasty ruin]

Read through the code enough times until you understand it

[slim bramble]

Me when I was developing 16Player

[radiant idol]

no matter how many times I read str_patcher's code I dont understand it

[native orbit]

ok ill rewrite in swift (your favorite lang)

[slim bramble]

where did you steal str_patcher from ?

[radiant idol]

NO

[radiant idol]

staturnz wrote the deep internals of the patcher

[slim bramble]

Oh

[radiant idol]

because uh

I would not write code like this

[granite frigate]

wtf is that

[slim bramble]

[native orbit]

art

[radiant idol]

I mean it works

[slim bramble]

I have no idea what this is for

[radiant idol]

I don't know how it works

but

here's more

[native orbit]

thats comex code

blame him

[hasty ruin]

This reminds me of ntwerkdrm

[naive sedge]

but the code isn't helping, I just don't understand what the HUD mechanism is

[radiant idol]

the magic numbers are insane

[naive sedge]

is it a special app intent?

like is the HUD thing a build-in app intent mechanism??

[native orbit]

do i make str_patcher_v2

[hasty ruin]

Same thing as what AssistiveTouch uses iirc

[radiant idol]

yes

[hasty ruin]

Make v1 first

[radiant idol]

LMAO

[native orbit]

[slim bramble]

Bro did not like that chatgpt snippet

[radiant idol]

in all fairness

[granite frigate]

another example project https://github.com/leminlimez/Helium

both do the assistivetouch thing

[radiant idol]

the CFString and global cstring patches are quite simple

the C string patch though

man

[slim bramble]

skill issue on your end

@native orbit what kind of black magic do you do ?

[native orbit]

yes

[granite frigate]

i think the code responsible for the hud is here https://github.com/leminlimez/Helium/blob/main/src/hud/HUDHelper.mm