development

[tepid olive]

I don't know how to find any of those offsets in golb

[faint timber]

msr's don't really have mmio's except in rare cases

you are writing to coresight only

[tepid olive]

well yes

                cpus[cpu_cnt++].utt_dbgwrap_base_off = 0x2040000;
                cpus[cpu_cnt].ed_base_off = 0x2110000;
                cpus[cpu_cnt++].utt_dbgwrap_base_off = 0x2140000;

idk where to find these

[faint timber]

didn't we already determine where

think back

[tepid olive]

oh yeah right devicetree

[faint timber]

https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0595/2021-06/External-Registers/EDITR--External-Debug-Instruction-Transfer-Register

[tepid olive]

yeah

what's the full name for DBGDTR_EL0

(like SX_Y_blalbla)

[faint timber]

RX and TX

[tepid olive]

S3_5_c15_c6_0

like that

[faint timber]

CYC: S3_5_c15_c5_0
ACC: S3_5_c15_c6_0

[tepid olive]

yes I knew that

but for DBGDTR_EL0

[faint timber]

what about it

[tepid olive]

found it

S2_3_c0_c4_0

[faint timber]

DBGDTR_EL0: S2_3_c0_c4_0
DBGDTRRX_EL0: S2_3_c0_c5_0
DBGDTRTX_EL0: S2_3_c0_c5_0

[tepid olive]

what's the difference between the cyclone and the core cluster tho, is the cyclone just one core, the core cluster is all of the cores?

[faint timber]

cyclone is the codename

[tepid olive]

yes

[faint timber]

https://theapplewiki.com/wiki/Codenames#CPU_cores

[faint timber]

there are two types cores for older devices

PCORE and ECORE
but there might be a subset for different ecores and pcores on newer devices

[tepid olive]

ah

[faint timber]

example Chinook but theres also ChinookASC6

or Tempest but also TempestASC5

[tepid olive]

hm

[faint timber]

doesn't really matter

which device is this

[tepid olive]

A13

[faint timber]

https://tenor.com/view/imagine-dragons-thunder-gif-14307548

coincedence apple?

[tepid olive]

wait what

ohhh

lol

[faint timber]

it exists according to db

[tepid olive]

why is armconverter telling me "invalid operand"

[faint timber]

because armconverter doesn't have everything man

[tepid olive]

MSR S2_3_c0_c4_0,S3_5_c15_c6_0

well it works if I do like

[faint timber]

both pcore and ecore have it on cebu a13

[faint timber]

is that even valid

[tepid olive]

I think

[faint timber]

I've never seen that before

[tepid olive]

it works if I do

MSR S3_5_c15_c6_0,X0

oh wait

do I need the hex encoding of the register

oh no

it has to be a general purpose register

[faint timber]

wtf u on

[tepid olive]

idk man

I don't think I'm quite understanding how CoreSight works lmfao

[pine holly]

Oh shit man

[faint timber]

Alright, let's imagine your computer is like a magical kitchen where it can cook up secret recipes. In this kitchen, there's a special cookbook that helps it make yummy dishes, but the cookbook is kept in a secret drawer.

Now, imagine the drawer is like a special way your computer talks to its cooking tools. Inline MMIO (Memory-Mapped Input/Output) is like having a little window on the drawer. When your computer wants to use a specific recipe from the cookbook, it looks through this window and tells the cooking tools what to do.

[pine holly]

You in the hospital rn?

[pine holly]

Ahh I read what you were saying, if you had Type 1 you wouldn’t be low like that. So you can prob rule type 1 off the table. Almost always get diagnosed when your blood sugar is too high

[tepid olive]

I know how MMIO works

it's just CoreSight specifically

well more system registers

I don't really mess with system registers too much

[faint timber]

Same difference more or less

It’s a similar mmio but direct arm silicon mmio baked in

[faint timber]

still confused?

[tepid olive]

kinda lol

[faint timber]

get to work!

[hexed knot]

Naw i was

I passed out and hit my head ona kitchen counter

Got my bloodwork done today and doctor said at worst i have diabetes

I still think worst is like hiv or aids

But i dont think i have that

[faint timber]

[frosty gale]

Oh lord

[pine holly]

Idk I think I would rather aids over diabetes..

[granite frigate]

i rather have diabetes

aids is when you don't treat your hiv properly

[primal perch]

unfortunate brother

inshallah you get well

[wooden yarrow]

can confirm

trol

[wooden yarrow]

hm .

[wooden yarrow]

don't u access mmio instead of sysregs

idk

[faint timber]

not all msr's have an mmio counterpart

I know of one case it exists, a8 but not sure if it came to be for newer

[faint timber]

@wooden yarrow or am I wrong?

[wooden yarrow]

idk too much about dbgwrap

but i think ur right

[faint timber]

This doesn’t have anything to do with debugwrap

Acc and cyc are msrs

[wooden yarrow]

oh ur talking about coresight not dbgwrap

i mean

idk much about either

so

.

[faint timber]

Coresight is only used here to execute said msr if possible

If there was an mmio that would be used instead

But it’s only known for a8 not a13

[fluid lintel]

I realized that I am in the platform apps is not working, and it gives me -1 as a result of both task_for_pid and pid_for_task.
I was able to list all the active task ports in the system but I can't map them to the process

[fluid lintel]

to your knowledge is it possible by having the task port to derive the task_name?

[frank fossil]

binaries converted to dylib must be ldid signed before fastPath sign

[hollow laurel]

are ppl still using the XINA version, which uses the rootful debs?

[fluid lintel]

_CFURLRequestCreate this method is present in the sdk tdb's but i can't find the signature anywhere. can any of you tell me how it is called ?

[faint stag]

you should probably be using NSURLRequest instead

but yeah CFNetwork (framework) is what you want

[orchid fulcrum]

can somebody take look at this to see if something is wrong please

The issue

[willow lance]

@naive kraken
What is the difference?

https://gist.github.com/opa334/1a2e7fd17e63e117c5bf83afb8a6dce3#file-pplrw-m-L176

https://github.com/zhuxinlang/zhuxinlang.github.io/blob/main/GPU_CoreSight.m#L170

[naive kraken]

it's the same

[willow lance]

I cannot show you log for now, but Xina’s ppl set to new value, but yours one doesn’t change

[orchid fulcrum]

Can you look at my problem please ? İts about ccsupport

One above what u replied to

[blazing warren]

[timid furnace]

huh, you are right, if value & 0x1000000000000000 == 0 then value &= ~0x1000000000000000 does nothing

[orchid fulcrum]

Or at least some info on what methods ccsupport call automatically would be nice

[naive kraken]

you invert in setSelected but not in isSelected

[orchid fulcrum]

I did that too same issue

[naive kraken]

besides all of this doesn't have anything to do with CCSupport, this is Apples API

[orchid fulcrum]

The API being ControlCenterUIKit right ?

And its private so there are no docs am i correct

[naive kraken]

yes

[pearl sail]

Just like how we all laugh at zefram

[hasty ruin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688122301975363591/1084316846863421520/zeframdemo.gif

[slim bramble]

Damn fast 1984

[torn cloud]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688122301975363591/1084316846863421520/zeframdemo.gif

[ashen birch]

zeframware

[torn cloud]

frcoal

[torn cloud]

is zefram even going to be released at this point 💀

capt keeping it to himself after the memes

[harsh junco]

OpaCraft

[torn cloud]

lol

[tepid olive]

@faint timber HMMMM

[torn cloud]

i need to learn assembely lol

apart from the driver names on the side idk what this is 💀

[faint timber]

This is a case of RTFM

[torn cloud]

what's that

[faint timber]

Read the Fucking Manual

[torn cloud]

ios...doesn't come with a manual

[faint timber]

Arm????

[torn cloud]

oh

💀

[faint timber]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dense-you-dense-motherfucker-motherflocker-you-dense-motherflocker-gif-17518444

[torn cloud]

lmao

[torn cloud]

ok, i read the manual, i'm looking at the Apple Power Management driver?

[faint timber]

Im talking about asm

for drivers theres not much documentation

[tepid olive]

except

I'm not entirely sure

where the actual function is

this just calls a function inside the vtable

[faint timber]

pacxplorer is your friend

[torn cloud]

seems to be manipulating registers and loading values from memory?

that's the most i could interpret

[tepid olive]

also why is it in ApplePMGR???

[slim bramble]

trolling

[torn cloud]

could it be setL2CFlushTimeout?

[faint timber]

that's how drivers work?

[tepid olive]

no, yes I know that

I'm just confused as to why they put in in PMGR out of all places

looking at asahi

l2c does indeed stand for L2 Cache

[faint timber]

kinda obvious

[tepid olive]

well yeah, but for all I know apple could be just trying to trick me lmao

there's actually multiple interesting functions

[slim bramble]

Hey, what differences is there between how springboard works on iOS 14 and 15

[granite frigate]

what are you cooking 👀

[slim bramble]

i've noticed that apps don't get killed on respring on iOS 15 compared to iOS 14

[tepid olive]

I love spirnboard

[slim bramble]

:D

[cloud yacht]

but only somethimes I think

[slim bramble]

no all apps are killed on 14

[versed wasp]

I don’t know if this is the right place to ask (since it’s a more advanced question) but is there a way to simulate/cause a full storage bootloop?

[slim bramble]

no matter what

[versed wasp]

I want to try something

[cloud yacht]

no on 15, they are sometimes killed

[slim bramble]

oh ok

[torn cloud]

springboard

[placid kraken]

on 15+ they are killed if there is not enough memory for the necessary processes to reinit after sb dies (i think?)

[torn cloud]

me hate

[tepid olive]

do y'all think it's better to temporarily overwrite a whole function to sign a pointer in the kernel, or if it's better to just modify the normal kcall IOSurface function, to just not check signature

(again this is only going to be for at most a few seconds)

[slim bramble]

Why would you want to fuck your phone ?

else I can send a command ofc

[torn cloud]

try both, see which works better

[tepid olive]

well I mean more like

which do you think is better practice

[versed wasp]

Long story short, a friend’s iPhone is doing it and I found a method online for fixing it. I want to test it to see if it works

[slim bramble]

I don't know if you can simulate it, but I know a way to provocate it

[torn cloud]

whatever takes more effort and uses more lines of code is probably better practise.

[versed wasp]

What is it?

[torn cloud]

that's my theory anyway

[tepid olive]

Signing the ptr might be more stable because I can cache the signed pointers

[slim bramble]

dd if=/dev/urandom of=funny.raw

let that run a while

and reboot

[versed wasp]

oh yeah true

does iOS even have urandom?

[cloud yacht]

whatever code that is more readable/maintainable is probably better, unless one method provides another improvement that greatly outweighs this (such as way faster, or way less resource usage)

[tepid olive]

(won't have to do the jank whatnot as many times)

[slim bramble]

I can check rq

[tepid olive]

how else do you think random syscalls work

[torn cloud]

as in save them for later use?

[cloud yacht]

knowing apple, probably the secure randomness chip™️

[versed wasp]

W

[slim bramble]

also you can use SSHRD to restore phone

try on checkm8 device

[tepid olive]

yeah, just sign all the kernel functions I need beforehand, and then I won't have to do it at a critical stage of the jailbreak flow

[versed wasp]

problem is that her device is an iPhone 11 on iOS 13 lol

[slim bramble]

what's your idea

[versed wasp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/z7a8k3/tutorial_possible_fix_for_jailbroken_iphone_stuck/

well to be more specific, she found it online

[faint timber]

get to work!

[tepid olive]

wine on mac is so annoying

if I paste anything anywhere

it completely locks up

and I have to kill it

[cloud yacht]

uninstall mac

[tepid olive]

but I need XCode

[cloud yacht]

nah

[versed wasp]

use assembly

[tepid olive]

I guess I could run linux with a mac VM for XCode

[cloud yacht]

hand make the ipas from scratch

[tepid olive]

you can't hand make a zip file

[cloud yacht]

yeah you can

just open a hex eidtor and write the bytes

[tepid olive]

you can but it'd take hours upon hours for what would take your computer nanoseconds

[cloud yacht]

ok

[faint timber]

not for me

[tepid olive]

me when ryzentosh

[cloud yacht]

me when theos

[faint timber]

im literally on a ryzentosh

[tepid olive]

wtf

what version of wine

[faint timber]

latest unofficial wineskin winery

[tepid olive]

me too, what the fuck

what version of macOS

[acoustic imp]

how can I tell if a tweak is installed from within in my tweak? like how could i tell if artfull was installed?

[tepid olive]

what

oh

use NSFileManager to track the directory

ez

[cloud yacht]

probably the dylib

[acoustic imp]

would i just search the dylid DIR ?

[cloud yacht]

or maybe it has some class you can find?

[acoustic imp]

it does thanks

[cloud yacht]

tbh idk

[tepid olive]

no the guy wants to tell if a tweak was what

why'd it take

[acoustic imp]

its got a method it adds to a view i hook

[tepid olive]

I'm confused

[cloud yacht]

if a tweak is currentyl injected

[tepid olive]

gcenx's right

[cloud yacht]

idk use some objc method to check for its existance

[faint timber]

mhm

[acoustic imp]

its like @slector or sm i fg

il ask chat gpt

[tepid olive]

[cloud yacht]

ping capt

[slim bramble]

take a look at advanced britghness slider

[cloud yacht]

he'll wrtie an essay about what to do, why it works and some related resources

[slim bramble]

they have a check for it

tbh you should ask me first

I had the solution

[acoustic imp]

i asked here, u were here

[acoustic imp]

where exactly

[tepid olive]

although

what is slightly confusing

is what timeout means here

[slim bramble]

They just check for a class

[tepid olive]

does it mean, like if it takes too long to flush the cache

[slim bramble]

but I mean you could use dpkg

[tepid olive]

force it?

or

like

[acoustic imp]

il jus see if this exists

[tepid olive]

how long to wait from when a dirty cache line is created to flush

[acoustic imp]

👍

[tepid olive]

I thought you were asking

how to tell if a tweak was installed while your tweak was running

[acoustic imp]

yes but this works to

but, how do i know that artfull will link initialize its methods before i check

hm

[tepid olive]

@faint timber does cellebrite's ida_kernelcache usually lock up for a bit after reaching a specific address?

[torn cloud]

when rewriting code, should i keep original copyrights?

[tepid olive]

no

[torn cloud]

if the original code was under the MIT license

[tepid olive]

if you're rewriting it

it's yours

[torn cloud]

oh

ok

[tepid olive]

unless it's a carbon copy

[torn cloud]

it's essentially the same but in C

some things are different

i'm gonna give credits anyway

[tepid olive]

if you rewrote it in a different language, you can just give credit to the OG authors and give your thing the same license, but it can have your own copyright

[torn cloud]

to avoid problems

[torn cloud]

k

[faint timber]

I don't think I have that installed

[tepid olive]

also you're talking about PACMAN, right

[tepid olive]

pacxplorer literally says it needs it

[torn cloud]

rewrite of jprx's pacmanattack

[tepid olive]

pacman is so weird

[torn cloud]

fr

[tepid olive]

it's the most jank of jank exploits ever

[torn cloud]

and the fact it needs a custom kext ruins everything

[tepid olive]

it technicalllllly doesn't

[torn cloud]

huh

what

when

how

why

[tepid olive]

you can use it

using the PPL bypass we have

[indigo peak]

@acoustic imp

#include <rootless.h>

bool artful_installed = [[NSFileManager defaultManager] fileExistsAtPath:ROOT_PATH_NS(@"/var/lib/dpkg/info/com.nahtedetihw.artfull.list")];

[tepid olive]

the kext is to write sysregs

[indigo peak]

wait

[tepid olive]

you can do that with our PPL bypass

[indigo peak]

im dumb

i forgot smth

lol

[torn cloud]

it would be limited to certain ios version then

[indigo peak]

there

[torn cloud]

but i have no clue how to actually use a PPL bypass in code

[acoustic imp]

this will work on rootfull ?

[tepid olive]

ok

[torn cloud]

that's the issue

[tepid olive]

I'll make a PR if you want

[torn cloud]

that would mean the world

one sec

[indigo peak]

yes, thats the whole point for the ROOT_PATH_NS

[acoustic imp]

👍

[indigo peak]

it makes it work on rootless & rootful

[tepid olive]

although only A15 should theoretically be vulnerable (other than M1) as it uses the same cores as M1

although other ones could be vulnerable

[indigo peak]

@acoustic imp
basically, if the device is rootless, it takes the input path into ROOT_PATH_NS and makes it start with /var/jb
and if its rooful, it just keeps the path as is

and if you were gonna check for multiple tweaks, not just artful

you could do something like this

[torn cloud]

i've dmed it to you

feel free to do whatever

[acoustic imp]

k, and is this suposed to be plist ?

(asuming yes)

[indigo peak]

bool hasPackage(NSString *packageIdentifier) {
  return [[NSFileManager defaultManager] ROOT_PATH_NS([NSString stringWithFormat:@"/var/lib/dpkg/info/%@.list", packageIdentifier])];
}

[indigo peak]

its meant to be .list

not plist

[acoustic imp]

oh ok

[indigo peak]

see

[acoustic imp]

@indigo peak , do i just copy paste the file or do i need to update theos?

[indigo peak]

uhhhh update theos?

it should exist

[slim bramble]

rootful :

[acoustic imp]

also

[indigo peak]

oh im slow

hang on

[indigo peak]

@acoustic imp

edited

[acoustic imp]

muschas gracias

is there a way i can set a child view to be behind the superview?

Like so the Button background would be behind the actual button

nvm

im silly

🎉

[slim bramble]

nice

plz

don't

do the same things as me

[acoustic imp]

?

this has been in mine sense square one

before you were even working on it w me

[primal perch]

Kendrick Lamar

[acoustic imp]

how can i like "disable" method hooks

like if you could %group method hooks

[timid furnace]

put them in groups and conditionally initialize them

[acoustic imp]

u cant

[timid furnace]

?

[acoustic imp]

u can only put like the entire hook in a group

[hexed knot]

Then make an entire hook for one method and put it in a group

[timid furnace]

split it up

[acoustic imp]

so its fine if i have %hook smview twice ?

[hexed knot]

Yes

[timid furnace]

yes

[acoustic imp]

oh ok

i thought that was like bad

[timid furnace]

%group a
%hook car
- (void) honk {
}
%end
%end

%group b
%hook car
- (void) beep {
}
%end
%end

no

what you cannot do is group inside hook

%hook car
%group a
- (void) honk {
}
%end

%group b
- (void) beep {
}
%end
%end

this used to be legal but logos became more strict

[acoustic imp]

👍 , thats what i thought to do first

[hexed knot]

yeah thats what dhinak said

[cloud yacht]

make a new hook for every method you hook

that way its more readble

[acoustic imp]

will do

[radiant idol]

idk why they removed this

would've saved a bit of redundant code

[cloud yacht]

well in that case I don;t think it matters

also cause often more complex tweaks, your hooking multiple things or different classes

and probably simplifies logic

cause technically you could have an empty hook if both groups are false

which idk how that owrks

[timid furnace]

you know what it broke for me

PreferenceLoader

casually breaking the number one most used tweak

oh well

which reminds me i need to push a preferenceloader update

[cloud yacht]

just use old logos to compile prefrenceloader

[radiant idol]

um actually cydia substrate is the number one most used tweak 🤓 ☝️

[cloud yacht]

um actually nexus is the number one most used tweak

[primal perch]

🤓 ☝️

[cloud yacht]

zefram is only used by one person

least popular tweak

and least used

[tepid olive]

@faint timber

hmm

is there a way to view it in the psuedocode?

[faint timber]

its a function so yes

[tepid olive]

well I mean like

in the caller

not the callee

[timid furnace]

substrate isn't a tweak

[radiant idol]

🤓 ☝️ 🤓 ☝️ 🤓 ☝️ 🤓 ☝️ 🤓 ☝️

[faint timber]

???

[tepid olive]

like can I see the calling happening in the psuedocode

[faint timber]

yes its called vtable/function pointers

[tepid olive]

ah

[faint timber]

you see it happen

use your eyes

[tepid olive]

sorry ;-;

The main problem now

is the regmap thing

I need to reverse it's structure

so I can write to it

[slim bramble]

@tepid olive What are you cooking?

[tepid olive]

temporary KTRR bypass

temporary so I can use it as a PAC bypass

why are you spamming emotes

[cloud yacht]

[slim bramble]

He’s probably getting censored by icraze

[tepid olive]

lel

[acoustic imp]

AARONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

[slim bramble]

Icraze is 1984 of kirbistan

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-tom-phone-call-happy-gif-14720409

[faint timber]

I think theres only 3 addresses it writes too

4 maybe

[slim bramble]

@tepid olive Wait, the ktrr bypass comes from APMR ?

[tepid olive]

no

[slim bramble]

Then why were you looking into it earlier ?

[tepid olive]

because to use the KTRR bypass at all

I need a way to temporarily disable/delay L2 cache flush

[slim bramble]

Tf lol

[tepid olive]

when it gets flushed

AMCC blocks it and panics

I wish I could see what uses this timeout

so I know it's function

[slim bramble]

Oh makes sense

[tepid olive]

but when it's in cache it's used by default instead of main memory

because main memory accesses are slower

[slim bramble]

What do you intend to use the PAC bypass for ?

[tepid olive]

well I'm developing a jailbreak, so that obv

[slim bramble]

For which versions ?

[tepid olive]

while I'm almost already done without a PAC bypass, I wouldn't mind a PAC bypass

[slim bramble]

And devices

[slim bramble]

Damn

Good job

Do you plan on opensourcing it ?

[tepid olive]

yes

[acoustic imp]

@radiant idol Thx for no respring prefs

(Not done yet)

[cloud yacht]

tbh someone should make a lib for managing the lock screen ui thing

like the order and looks ot things

and make it easy to add stuff and move them

[slim bramble]

I want to destroy your preferences loading

My class better

Smh

[radiant idol]

tbh a class is also overdoing it imo

but to each their own

[acoustic imp]

and casues my a respring loop

[slim bramble]

OOP : Object Oriented Programming

[radiant idol]

yeah but not everything has to be an object

[cloud yacht]

tbh just hook sprinboards init and overwrite it starting so it doesn't respring loop

[acoustic imp]

fr

[slim bramble]

In that case let’s just stay with static shit all over the place

[cloud yacht]

ok

[radiant idol]

I feel like you're more inline with the class since you're a java dev

[cloud yacht]

just make a struct or smth idk I don't oop

[slim bramble]

Yeah

[radiant idol]

if you put it in one file you dont need to throw static everywhere

[slim bramble]

1984 of Kirbistan back smh

[radiant idol]

java's approach of OOP is overkill

[cloud yacht]

I used an object before so am I an OOP?

[slim bramble]

Not really you can do non oop in Java

[radiant idol]

show me

[radiant idol]

you are a dog with a Christmas hat

thats what you are

my bad wait

[slim bramble]

The entry method is even static

[radiant idol]

a folf

[radiant idol]

public class Main {
// ...

OOP

[slim bramble]

That does not mean you use the object

[radiant idol]

yes but it is still in an object

[slim bramble]

Not exactly

[radiant idol]

that is the definition of OOP, you put stuff in objects and separate
putting your main func in a Main class is OOP

[cloud yacht]

I can put stuff in functions and seperate

[slim bramble]

It’s static

[cloud yacht]

are functions oop?

[slim bramble]

public static void main(String[] args)

[radiant idol]

#include <stdio.h>

int main(int argc, char **argv) {
    printf("main in C\n");
    return 0;
}

^ this is not OOP, no classes involved

[slim bramble]

That’s the entry

[radiant idol]

what is String

certainly not a primitive type

trolled

[slim bramble]

Ok

So in that case

[radiant idol]

you might be able to even call that an Object!

[slim bramble]

char[][] args

[radiant idol]

can you even do that

[slim bramble]

Multidimensional arrays

[radiant idol]

well yea

im saying

[slim bramble]

And no it will not work

[radiant idol]

well there you go

also a basic hello world is uh

[slim bramble]

Oh wait nvm it’s probably possible with a bit of trolling

A bit of JNI

And 🔥

Or probably not idfk I’m tired

[radiant idol]

public class Main { // encapsulated in a class
    public static void main(String[] args) { // This is a method in a class. yes, it's static, but that's allowed in OOP!!!
        System.out.println("Hello world");
        // `System` is a class
        // `out` is a property of system, and also a class
        // println is a method inside whatever class `out` is
    }
}

[slim bramble]

C is not intended to be OOP

[radiant idol]

I did not say it was

C is not an OOP language

[slim bramble]

I don’t consider it as overkill

If I applied my java logic on my objc

@acoustic imp would kill me

[radiant idol]

who says he doesnt already want to

[slim bramble]

@acoustic imp ?

But classes would reduce my code amount by so fucking much

[radiant idol]

use structs!!

[slim bramble]

I think I legit could / 2 my code size

[slim bramble]

💀 💀

[acoustic imp]

nah, i just want to do everything my self. but i need to learn to like let other ppl do/work on the things i work on

[radiant idol]

also you do know that you dont have to make everything a property right

you can uh

use ivars

frcoal

[slim bramble]

Last time I used ivars I almost punched my monitor

[topaz yew]

why

[slim bramble]

(Theos was not happy)

[topaz yew]

oh

[slim bramble]

Objc is the biggest mess I’ve ever seen

[radiant idol]

@interface SomeClass : NSObject {
@public
    NSString *someIvar;
    NSArray <NSString *> *anotherIvar;
}
@end

// ...

SomeClass *someClassInstance = [SomeClass new];

someClassInstance->someIvar = @"Something";
someClassInstance->anotherIvar = @[
    @"Item 1",
    @"Item 2"
];

[topaz yew]

kvc ftw

[tepid olive]

theos

:(

[hexed knot]

nooo its such a mess nooo

[radiant idol]

go back to java then :)

[slim bramble]

No

[radiant idol]

then cope

Obj-C ftw

[tepid olive]

I love apple typos Cecking in with launchd immediately

[slim bramble]

I came to iOS for a reason

[radiant idol]

to terrorize us with java

[slim bramble]

I left mc cheating community

[tepid olive]

icraze

[cloud yacht]

wow i said that #development message

copying me

[radiant idol]

fake news

pointers are great

use pointers

[topaz yew]

you got the hook working?

wheres this even at

[slim bramble]

SBStaticView *view;
view = nil;

[radiant idol]

what are you trying to tell me

im confused

[slim bramble]

I failed to deref a pointer to 0x0

[radiant idol]

...you can do this lol

[slim bramble]

Oh then there you go

Anyways it’s late

ECT moment

[cloud yacht]

get a better time zone

[radiant idol]

NSString *str;
str = @"rootfs is bad at programming";

[cloud yacht]

NSString *nsString = @"NSString";```

[topaz yew]

.UTF8String be coming thru

[radiant idol]

NSString ***_NSString = &&&@"NSString";

[slim bramble]

Bro creating a pointer to a pointer to a pointer

[tepid olive]

this does have valid usecases

[radiant idol]

*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*& ftw

[tepid olive]

it'd have to be &&& btw

[slim bramble]

I’ve never went further than **

[tepid olive]

Making one pointer to an NSString into 3 of them is undefined behaviour

[radiant idol]

good

we love that

[tepid olive]

actually pointers are always unsigned

[slim bramble]

Why did I got censored ?

[tepid olive]

because you can't have a negative pointer

[slim bramble]

Icraze is there prob

Let’s check

[tepid olive]

yeah because if I say

[slim bramble]

He’s there

[tepid olive]

told you

[slim bramble]

icraze is actually good a good dev

[tepid olive]

[acoustic imp]

[tepid olive]

bending reality to his will

[slim bramble]

iCensor of Kirbistan

[tepid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/show-yourself-you-coward-louise-cherry-murdoch-mysteries-reveal-who-you-are-let-me-see-you-gif-23579424

[slim bramble]

tfw

[acoustic imp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688124600269144162/1189761389858930878/banned2.png?ex=65cd7b24&is=65bb0624&hm=77d8e2074202e80e7d2d4ad7f24d57fb728a30308f5a04f35541281a0c19c511&

[slim bramble]

kopen(0x800);

[topaz yew]

that's not how it works

that's kalloc

[slim bramble]

💀 I’m lazy to write functional code

[tepid olive]

trelelelel

[topaz yew]

i will always be a c lang lover

[acoustic imp]

@radiant idol wana look at the new horific code i made

[radiant idol]

hu

what

ok

sure

go ahead

[slim bramble]

kalloc_init() in this is always working fast

Easy

[acoustic imp]

lets see if live share wana work

[slim bramble]

Such a W

[radiant idol]

hniui

NO

NOT AGAIN

LIVE SHARE

PLEASE NO

[acoustic imp]

[slim bramble]

You’ll loose sanity forever

[acoustic imp]

ur lucky this time,

live share said no smh

[radiant idol]

WRITE YOUR TWEAKS ON WINDOWS IM BEGGING YOU

[tepid olive]

no

[radiant idol]

STOP USING THAT VM

[topaz yew]

die die die

[acoustic imp]

TIME TO VNC INTO THE VM

[slim bramble]

What’s wrong with his shit

[topaz yew]

horrible

[radiant idol]

have you SEEN his CODE????????

HOLD ON

[acoustic imp]

wth, where did vscode go

[topaz yew]

what is vscode?

[acoustic imp]

lmao

[topaz yew]

dear lord

not the .superview

[acoustic imp]

(i fixed it)

[acoustic imp]

oh there **was **17 of them

[topaz yew]

frame math, fine but-

[topaz yew]

WHAT

[slim bramble]

That’s average

I’ve seen worse

[radiant idol]

the code slightly improved

let me show you the worse version

[topaz yew]

[acoustic imp]

its removed now tho

[slim bramble]

@acoustic imp don’t show the code we gotta make money remember

[acoustic imp]

[radiant idol]

@topaz yew

[topaz yew]

ewww

#import

[radiant idol]

@topaz yew

[slim bramble]

Bro I have an explanation for that

Theos was complaining

!

[acoustic imp]

delete

SC leaking

[radiant idol]

@topaz yew

[acoustic imp]

[topaz yew]

i mean this is standard no

?

[radiant idol]

MRUNowPlayingView is a UIView subclass

...UIView's dont have viewDidLoad

[acoustic imp]

oops

[topaz yew]

oh yeah 💀

[acoustic imp]

well i prb chnaged to didmovetowindow anyway

[topaz yew]

been a while since i done tweaks

[slim bramble]

Then why would this work ?

[acoustic imp]

when it didnt work

[radiant idol]

it wouldnt

@topaz yew

[topaz yew]

i mean it'll compile

[slim bramble]

It compiled fine

[acoustic imp]

fixed*

[radiant idol]

yes but it wouldnt do anything

[topaz yew]

but theres nothing to hook

[slim bramble]

Fr

I need to sleep

[radiant idol]

bedtime i wanna see your opinions on this code

[acoustic imp]

NIGHT GET READY

[radiant idol]

NO

[slim bramble]

Lemme know I have to dig your grave

[radiant idol]

@acoustic imp PROFANITY????

[topaz yew]

literally could save characters just by adding a !

[acoustic imp]

real

[radiant idol]

yes

look at the method name

[slim bramble]

@radiant idol

[radiant idol]

y

e

[topaz yew]

holy fuck

[radiant idol]

r

s

[topaz yew]

🥴

[acoustic imp]

learned this after i made the shit

[topaz yew]

fair

[acoustic imp]

CGRECT

[acoustic imp]

== 1

look i jus wnated to be extra safe

[radiant idol]

@topaz yew

[acoustic imp]

lmao

[radiant idol]

this is the worst one

[cloud yacht]

dis baled

[radiant idol]

comdisbaledbackground

[acoustic imp]

CHECK DMS NIGHT

[acoustic imp]

fixed*

[radiant idol]

ht

hrhr

hrhh

r

h

rh

r

h

[acoustic imp]

yes

[topaz yew]

i have layoutSubviews trauma

[radiant idol]

HE HOOKED DIDMOVETOWINDOW

[topaz yew]

[radiant idol]

HE DIDNT CALL %ORIG

HE

HE

HE CALLED LAYOUTSUBVIEWS IN DIDMOVETOWINDOW

[topaz yew]

Crime!

[acoustic imp]

oh yea i rember that

oops

i fixed in rewrite anyway

[radiant idol]

rewrite your spelling

you cant spell

[acoustic imp]

indeed

[cloud yacht]

get a spell check extension

[acoustic imp]

THAT EXIST

[radiant idol]

YES??

[acoustic imp]

donde esta

[radiant idol]

@cloud yacht rethink your life choices

dont send that message again

[acoustic imp]

bros icraze

[radiant idol]

ew i dont write bootloopware

[cloud yacht]

what why?

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=streetsidesoftware.code-spell-checker

[radiant idol]

.

this is disgusting

[acoustic imp]

muchas gracias

[radiant idol]

i misspell stuff because my r key gets stuck sometimes

[native dune]

r

[radiant idol]

you misspell stuff because you're dumb @acoustic imp

jk

i think

[cloud yacht]

I misspell stuff cause I'm bad at spelling

we are not the same

[acoustic imp]

this might be true

[radiant idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/972617295195152414.webp?size=48&name=weAreNotTheSame~1&quality=lossless

[acoustic imp]

i swear the keys move over an inch sometimes

[radiant idol]

are your sensory senses okay

[acoustic imp]

what sensory senses

[radiant idol]

idk

[cloud yacht]

ok but why?

[radiant idol]

idk

why not

[topaz yew]

so real

[cloud yacht]

well something caused you to send that

[acoustic imp]

yay or nay to starting my spnaish HW ?

[radiant idol]

just impulse

[cloud yacht]

yay

[radiant idol]

si no sabes deletrear palabras en inglés, tengo miedo de cómo vas a escribir mal las palabras en español

[acoustic imp]

i got like half of it

[cloud yacht]

I know what español and si means

oh and maybe inglés

[radiant idol]

translate it

[cloud yacht]

wait where is the rules channel?

[acoustic imp]

r u saying i cant spell

[radiant idol]

yes

yk what

show us a picture of your spanish homework

[acoustic imp]

ok

ista spanish 2

from a USA schol so

i think i did quatro y siete

[cloud yacht]

I cna read the middle one

[acoustic imp]

hablar - to speak

esuchar - to listen

leer - read

[radiant idol]

ESCRIBIR IS TO WRITE

[acoustic imp]

si

[radiant idol]

no i mean show us a written thing

[acoustic imp]

um i fg which i did

[hexed knot]

cuatro

[acoustic imp]

shoot

same thing

[hexed knot]

this is NOT italian

[radiant idol]

quatre

[radiant idol]

show any

[acoustic imp]

es malo

[hexed knot]

nightwinds just gonna use google translate 😭😭

[acoustic imp]

deep L ontop

Ayer, yo tomé la calsses de español, luego la classes de carrera conexión, luego la classe de lengua y literatura, luego la classe de historia, lugar la classe de matematicas, luego la classe de ciencia. Me classe de favorito es la clase de español. hablé a mis amigos en todo de mis classes. Yo comí el salada y las fruta con bebí el agua. Despues de la escuala hací el hipódromo. Ayer, yo acosté a las diez en punto en la noche.

thx deep L

[radiant idol]

no I mean show us a HANDWRITTEN assignment

smh

[acoustic imp]

um no

[hexed knot]

If u used deepl for that

Deepl sucks

[acoustic imp]

no i use for part of it

i suck

[radiant idol]

pleeeeease

[hexed knot]

Its clase not classe

[acoustic imp]

take a guse how good my handwriting it

[radiant idol]

I WANNA SEE

[acoustic imp]

ok thats the same thing

[acoustic imp]

no u dont 😭😭

[radiant idol]

PLEASE

[cloud yacht]

my handwriting is bad

[acoustic imp]

no mine is worse than how i speel

[radiant idol]

I

WANT

TO

SEE

[acoustic imp]

no

[radiant idol]

I'll even join your live share

if you do

[acoustic imp]

es muy malo 😭

[cloud yacht]

oh thats like better than mine

[acoustic imp]

aslo i wasnt trying on this

bc she gives us the digital version

[radiant idol]

ok well

its ugly but its typical american handwriting

so

[acoustic imp]

maybe i should find my work form last year

[hexed knot]

Ayer, yo tomé la clase de español, luego la clase de carrera conexión, luego la clase de lengua y literatura, luego la clase de historia, luego la clase de matemáticas, luego la clase de ciencias. Mi clase favorita es la clase de español. hablé con mis amigos en todas mis clases. Yo comí la ensalada y las frutas y bebí agua. Despues de la escuala hice el hipódromo. Anoche, yo me acosté a las diez en punto en la noche.

There u go

[radiant idol]

teslaman lore

[hexed knot]

Ok submit your wrong work then

[hexed knot]

What does this mean😭😭

[acoustic imp]

i can read it 🤷‍♂️

[radiant idol]

american students cant write to save their lives

but

[acoustic imp]

ticket, luggage, pilot

[radiant idol]

i cant really fault him for it since its average

[hexed knot]

Im a man fuck i look like writing neatly

[radiant idol]

ticked, lugage, piolet

[hexed knot]

If i need to write something important i have cursive

[acoustic imp]

😭

[radiant idol]

show us your average handwriting

lets see

[acoustic imp]

me when: i never learned cursive

[radiant idol]

its not hard to write something thats not chicken scratch

[acoustic imp]

maybe slowly

but quick

no

[cloud yacht]

obvoiulsy I put my homework off until the last minute so I don't have to to write neatly

[acoustic imp]

im also my class is the Guinee pig, the school system tried new spelling/writing sutff

[radiant idol]

you spelled Guinea wrong

[restive ether]

must be left handed

[acoustic imp]

am right handed

[restive ether]

oh then you have no excuse

[radiant idol]

its still average in terms of american handwriting

people cant write

[radiant idol]

this is false news

[restive ether]

they all have ADHD that’s why

[radiant idol]

😭

[cloud yacht]

handwriting leak

[hexed knot]

Nah ngl oop has shitty handwriting

[acoustic imp]

thats crazy, but true

[hexed knot]

Like mines not great but its legible

[radiant idol]

im scared

[hexed knot]

@restive ether do you have a job

[radiant idol]

it looks like it is from a mental asylum

[cloud yacht]

to be fair this was the end of like 4 pages of writing stuff (not full sentences)

[hexed knot]

Some of yall need to work on ur handwriting

[acoustic imp]

“Quite fishy” 😭😭

[hexed knot]

Nightwind lets see urs

[radiant idol]

im eating rn

gimme a sec

[cloud yacht]

this is why I have a spell checker on my code

[native dune]

my handwriting is good if im not writing for too long

[cloud yacht]

this is a bit better (not much)

[radiant idol]

no

this is worse

this is my handwriting in Armenian, will have to write something in english in a sec

[cloud yacht]

I mean I can write neat if I take like forever

[radiant idol]

lets see if i can find a spare paper

[hexed knot]

What script does armenia use

Do they have their own script

[radiant idol]

yeh

here's the same text written here

Ղարաբաղը հայկական է

[acoustic imp]

ENGLISH, plz

[hexed knot]

Damn armenian really just said lets have our alphabet be upside down u and y

[acoustic imp]

When eta Nightwind English handwriting

[radiant idol]

@hexed knot

[acoustic imp]

Que?

[radiant idol]

Macedonian

[native dune]

macedonian

[radiant idol]

@native dune send urs

[native dune]

i dont have any paper i dont think

[tepid olive]

Macedonia is that one empire that Alexander The Great founded cuz he felt like it

[native dune]

ill send tmr while at school if i can remember

[acoustic imp]

spanish hw time

[radiant idol]

@tepid olive send handwriting

this is not a request

it is a demand

[tepid olive]

aht

no

find

[radiant idol]

please

[tepid olive]

fine

[radiant idol]

YAY

[hexed knot]

https://tenor.com/view/macedonia-macedonia-is-greek-macedonian-star-vergina-pella-gif-13967115

[radiant idol]

da

makedonia je grecia

[hexed knot]

you mean ne

we speak greek

[radiant idol]

nah

[hexed knot]

yes in greek is ne

[tepid olive]

my handwriting is so good

[radiant idol]

smh

HAND writing

[tepid olive]

it is handwriting wdym

[radiant idol]

show

us

real

handwriting

[radiant idol]

ok THATS readable

good job

[tepid olive]

it isn't my handwriting, it's my friends

[radiant idol]

oh

FAKE NEWS

[cloud yacht]

mine is readableer than it used to be

[radiant idol]

readableer

[tepid olive]

my handwriting

[acoustic imp]

How’s this

[tepid olive]

also my handwriting

[radiant idol]

doing better

[acoustic imp]

gime sm to write

[tepid olive]

what the fuck is this

[radiant idol]

Qarabağ Ermәnidir

write that

[tepid olive]

my handwriting again

[acoustic imp]

ingles porfavor

[cloud yacht]

The FitnessGram™ Pacer Test is a multistage aerobic capacity test that progressively gets more difficult as it continues. The 20 meter pacer test will begin in 30 seconds. Line up at the start. The running speed starts slowly, but gets faster each minute after you hear this signal. [beep] A single lap should be completed each time you hear this sound. [ding] Remember to run in a straight line, and run as long as possible. The second time you fail to complete a lap before the sound, your test is over. The test will begin on the word start. On your mark, get ready, start.

[radiant idol]

im serious

do it

[tepid olive]

ah FACS

oh no my handwriting is there

[radiant idol]

is that a

protogen

[tepid olive]

yes

[radiant idol]

get out of this channel

[tepid olive]

No

that was like 5 years ago

[radiant idol]

why do you have the most random coursework

[tepid olive]

idfk

[radiant idol]

looks good

[radiant idol]

now try