development

[lime pivot]

I have thought about doing some streams for Legacy Update dev though, it's like the only OSS project I'm working on lately

[hasty ruin]

thanks for the reminder

[lime pivot]

feels like something people would find interesting, I feel inspired by MattKC's streams on doing funny business like porting .NET 2.0 to Windows 95

[silver rampart]

ok funny build system 2.0 out rootless support eta now

[radiant idol]

eta wen RH support fr

[lime pivot]

also helps it's not a moving target, the foundation is as stable as it'll ever be

[hasty ruin]

Mattkc streams my beloved

[hasty ruin]

Filter bypass :/

[lime pivot]

lmao

[radiant idol]

cry

[lime pivot]

face it icraze you like aussie accents

[hasty ruin]

.

I mean I gotta put up with yours bc you can’t shut the fuck up when you’re at home

[lime pivot]

you would think so but I'm usually pretty quiet and focused at home lol

[radiant idol]

what is this lore

[hasty ruin]

I’m in his walls

[lime pivot]

he lives in my walls

[radiant idol]

oh

[hasty ruin]

[radiant idol]

i thought he lived in my walls

[lime pivot]

I occasionally feed him when I feel like being humane

[radiant idol]

did he movoe away

[hasty ruin]

since when

[radiant idol]

since yesterday

[hasty ruin]

[hasty ruin]

oh

[radiant idol]

how did you move to the other side of the world in 24 hours

[hasty ruin]

legs

[radiant idol]

oh

[hasty ruin]

yeah I’m pretty fast init

[radiant idol]

i was aboutta say you took a plane but then I remembered you're british and obviously ALL brits carry a dagger with them at all times so that cant be it

unless they confiscated it 🤔

@hasty ruin is this true

[hasty ruin]

no comment

[radiant idol]

why not

[left lantern]

recently got contracted to make an iOS program (for AppStore release, not JB related), which will act as a way to get live news from the source person who asked for it to be created, the current way im thinking of, is a sort of RSS feed approach, where itll dynamically parse and load things like videos and podcast audio and allow the download of that kinda stuff, im thinking of using Swift/SwiftUI (yeah, just cause why not), any ideas of any other good ways to tackle this? The application should be able to present : Text announcements, podcast mp3 audio streaming, and video streaming

[lime pivot]

RSS seems like your best bet, then you can plug it right into something like WordPress and not have to worry about building a backend

[radiant idol]

oh my goodness i did not expect an essay when i came bacak

[silver rampart]

weak definition of essay

[left lantern]

yeah thats true, im also thinking it would make it easier to host all of that content

[lime pivot]

and there are probably WP plugins for videos and podcasts being directly embedded in the RSS in the "standard" way to do that

[silver rampart]

https://github.com/DragonBuild/dragon/releases/tag/2.0.0 change log

[left lantern]

https://github.com/nmdias/FeedKit

[lime pivot]

I didn't realise lightmann did all that work on dragon honestly, that's awesome

[left lantern]

how good does this look as a starter for understanding the way to implement?

[lime pivot]

that seems like definitely what you want

[left lantern]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/930980661542678538.webp?size=48&name=prayge&quality=lossless

ty ty

[silver rampart]

he's basically single-handedly pulled it off of life support its been really lovely to see

[hasty ruin]

He’s cheating on theos wtf

[silver rampart]

been so swamped w/ work and then having to pick which of 6 large projects to try and fuck with when i just want to draw birds n stuff

[hasty ruin]

dudes on fire

[lime pivot]

item.enclosure gets you the video/audio url and such, which has you covered there

item.content gives you the body text of the post

[radiant idol]

draw elon a new bird logo pls

[lime pivot]

man I feel that

[left lantern]

this is probably the last thing im gonna attempt, how would you tackle the ability for users to make an account/login to comment? since thats prob gonna be its own hurdle entirely, thatll be the very last thing tbh

[lime pivot]

sounds like it should also be possible with WordPress's built in commenting system honestly, there may be plugins to require users to sign up to comment that would handle that part

or well, I'm pretty sure I've seen WP sites that require login before commenting

[left lantern]

Mmm even better, the client already uses wordpress to host their main site luckily

sounds doable then!

[lime pivot]

oh awesome, so they'll be totally familiar with it. sounds like a winner for both you and them

[left lantern]

nah literally, praydge worked

[silver rampart]

oh this also happened i need to full-regenerate the headers site eventually https://github.com/0cyn/ktool/releases/tag/2.0.0

[hasty ruin]

Oh yeah whilst you’re here, what does it mean when ktool produces headers with methods commented out?

[silver rampart]

https://github.com/0cyn/ktool/blob/master/src/ktool/loader.py#L371 main draw is this sexy block of code 4 loading chained fixups

[silver rampart]

it means ktool thinks it'd be an invalid type definition for a header, and it tries to build headers you can compile against, so it leaves them commented out so you still know that method exists

[hasty ruin]

ahh makes sense ty

[silver rampart]

eh, i think having it be entirely different is good for distinction against it being something like a regular objc call

yea

dont wanna confuse it with a super call which is does something v different

no clue

[hasty ruin]

[lime pivot]

it's S for sharp 👍

[silver rampart]

was evan's latest name for it

[hasty ruin]

there’s an old project with the same name

[hasty ruin]

misinformation :/

[lime pivot]

:/

[silver rampart]

my main reason for not touching it for a while

[lime pivot]

that's the primary reason it makes me sad objcs can't be more viable

[silver rampart]

u have to hold so much info in your brain to work on it

[hasty ruin]

• zefram data exfiltration

(not complicated as it doesn’t exist)

[radiant idol]

tweak development and figuring out tweak conflicts:

trying to fix your tweak for an iOS that you dont have any devices on:

help me

[hasty ruin]

ok now imagine having a conflict with the dynamic island, without a proper jb

[radiant idol]

im not getting correlium

[silver rampart]

trying to write rootless stuff but i have no jailbreakable idevices

[radiant idol]

😭

ok that might be worse

[silver rampart]

my drawing tab is on ios 16.latest sadly

only >A11 device i own

[radiant idol]

pov my code works on: iOS 14, 15, 16, and then boom just crashes on iOS 17 for some stupid reason

[radiant idol]

16.7.X?

thats only for A11 and below, no?

[silver rampart]

16.7.2

[radiant idol]

huh

interesting

honestly if you're really interesting in tweak dev again, it might be worth it to just pick up a cheap used iphone 8 on iOS 16 and develop for that

or even an ipod on ios 15

[silver rampart]

oh 11s are cheap now wtf

[acoustic imp]

iPhone SE 1

Jus get a cracked backglass

Non working Face ID one

[radiant idol]

yea something like that

[radiant idol]

get one on iOS 16.5.1 or below, those have a "semi jailbreak" available rn

(basically a full jb but different technique)

[acoustic imp]

Well u can’t inject into daemons but SB and app injection work

(I think)

Also @radiant idol what do you think ?

[radiant idol]

i think thats right

[radiant idol]

looks good

make sure to try landscape mode too

how the hell did you get so far with tweak dev so fast tho lol

u kinda sucked at it

[silver rampart]

find n rce in mediaserverd so we can have that one funny tweak

[radiant idol]

fr

[acoustic imp]

Well copy paste is nice, but it’s not that much. Just a bunch of methods, CGRects , and math, CGFLoats, and ints

Oh and stealing prefs from bolsters reborn

Not actually tho

[radiant idol]

if you do take code, just credit properly

[hasty ruin]

Isn’t it 16.6.1

16.5.1 is for the ppl bypass

[acoustic imp]

Kinda freaked but idk what Idk what I’d do

[radiant idol]

oh right

[radiant idol]

yea not ideal

best to figure something out

[acoustic imp]

I would like to add custom like landscape/portrait motif offsets but idk like how to see if orientation was changed

[acoustic imp]

I have some idea but need a method that gets called or Rosie told me about adding like a listener for an chnage for an ivra I fg which but I could find it

[acoustic imp]

This would also ad iPad suport which is little broken atm bc ^

-100 noti offset (thanks nexus)

Little buggy w the artwork

[frail cedar]

put the controls under the time

on the left

artwork on the right

move the three dot thing to the top right of the screen so there's enough space

[placid kraken]

nexus is open source???

[slim bramble]

I’m rewriting the whole code lol dw

[slim bramble]

No it’s protected by icraze drm

[placid kraken]

animate the out animation, when you close it it kinda just pops out of view

[acoustic imp]

It’s not that simple

The artwork is the stock artwork, I just made the player bigger. But if I move it out the way to the side it would just scroll up with the rest of the player also, the tap function would not work

[left lantern]

any idea where this KP stems from?

currently doing light research on what could be causing it

[upper hull]

Your processor doesn't support it.

[left lantern]

its an ARM processor, of course it doesn't

its an error in the TCG emulation though, i'm trying to fix that

host acceleration on x86_64 processor with qemu -> works flawlessly, full speed
emulation on x86_64 processor with qemu -> works fine, boots but isn't speedy obviously
emulation on ARM64 processor with qemu -> KP on anything older than Lion, doesn't boot at all due to commpage error

[faint stag]

and no krw yet

but implementing a krw api probably needs some form of jailbreakd (i think)

[elfin quarry]

at that point just make a whole ass jb

(not) today i learned: MSHookMemory doesn't work at all for read only memory

some code from github works though

#define ENSURE_KERN_SUCCESS(ret) \
if (ret != KERN_SUCCESS) { \
    NSLog(@"it overload.. (write failed)"); \
    return; \
} \

#include <mach/mach.h> // mach_task_self, vm_protect

void write_memory(void* destination, const void* data, size_t size) {
    mach_port_t our_port = mach_task_self();
    ENSURE_KERN_SUCCESS(vm_protect(our_port, (vm_address_t)destination, size, false, VM_PROT_READ | VM_PROT_WRITE))
    ENSURE_KERN_SUCCESS(vm_write(our_port, (vm_address_t)destination, (vm_offset_t)data, size))
    ENSURE_KERN_SUCCESS(vm_protect(our_port, (vm_address_t)destination, size, false, VM_PROT_READ))
}

[faint stag]

well yeah it's just supposed to be an implementation for "safely" writing to memory but there's nothing there to get around memory protection

[elfin quarry]

that makes sense ig

my silly patch is still not working 😔

[elfin quarry]

(in my case it just crashed lol)

read write worked fine

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i think it's a const region

in security.framework

basically the thing i'm doing is, i'm trying to add newer ssl ciphers for ios 6

obviously this alone won't work because there's no code to handle GCM

so i've been copying aes gcm code from coreTLS/corecrypto that's in ios 9.3.5 for the last couple of days 💀

and trying to make them work with ios 6's libsecurity stuff

[granite frigate]

need a jailbreakd with krw handoff for that

[slim bramble]

@radiant idol can you accept my f req 🙏

[cloud yacht]

@radiant idol can you ignore my f req 🙏

[radiant idol]

Yes

@cloud yacht eta wen pr for tweak tutorial

[cloud yacht]

Hasn't been 31 hours yet

I might be a bit later, I have some homework I have to do as well

31h is when I start it btw

[radiant idol]

smfh

[torn cloud]

anyone have a m1 mac to test some exploit code on?

a m1 ipad could work but idk

if anyone does ping me. i'm working on a fork of a project that bypasses PAC on all M1 SoC's and need to test it (since i don't know if it works)

the project is going on github soon so i guess i'll ask when that happens

[faint stag]

i have a few

[elfin quarry]

i do have a m2 ipad

[torn cloud]

nice, as soon as i've finished the main exploit code i'll get back to you

cheers

[torn cloud]

won't work, uses a hardware exploit on M1 SoC's only

[elfin quarry]

does this vuln have a cve assigned to it

[torn cloud]

https://github.com/jprx/PacmanAttack

it forges kernel PACs from userspace

[torn cloud]

i'm unaware of any CVEs as i believe the team behind this did not file one

i could be wrong

[brazen timber]

https://pacmanattack.com/

@elfin quarry no cve but here's the site

[elfin quarry]

yea i saw

interesting stuff

[torn cloud]

the original dev made a fork in rust

so i'm just forking that into c

because why not

good practise with pointers and just exploit development in general

[naive kraken]

no

you're already in launchd

the problem is you only control the launchd after the userspace reboot so you can't persist krw

So you would have to rerun the exploit from launchd

[faint stag]

that sounds like a easy way to cause panics

[naive kraken]

you'd only need to do it once

and from there you can have a proper forkfix aswell

and if you userspace reboot again you can probably pass krw to the next launchd like dopamine does but you have to figure out krw handoff

[slender glade]

lmfao

[granite frigate]

what things even use libkrw? I can only think of dimentio/shshd, but saving blobs are kind of pointless now

[faint stag]

messing with vnodes

[granite frigate]

i'm not sure if vnodebypass works on iOS 16

i mean, it does, but not the tweak version

[faint stag]

dimentio doesn't either iirc

probably offsets

[granite frigate]

dimentio uses a kpf though

[faint stag]

i don't think vnode does tho, hence why it had to be updated for 15

though vnode shouldn't be as much of a requirement when you can just unlink /var/jb now

[faint stag]

static decryption is another thing
but none of the tools are up to date for that afaik

[granite frigate]

some tweaks still pollute /var/mobile

[faint stag]

why do we still have tweaks writing outside of /var/jb man

i can't think of a reason

now i can see why rh does the symlink patch

[visual meadow]

I have cfprefsd hook on my setup lol

[indigo peak]

how many times are you gonna say you have a cfprefsd hook

[visual meadow]

12

Until its added to serotonin

[granite frigate]

i'm lazy

[visual meadow]

Un lazy yourself

[granite frigate]

i don't want to hardcode stuff

[visual meadow]

https://twitter.com/roothidedev/status/1749513496101023952?s=46&t=LUSNSGJyUZ15gupblBCd_Q

roothide (@roothideDev) on X

this super cool table was originally designed by alpha (@Kutarin_ ), a true artist.

Twitter · Jan 22, 2024, 7:24 PM

Bro is trying to credit now

@azure sail did you see this lol

[azure sail]

yeah 😭

[visual meadow]

A true artist.

[indigo peak]

@azure sail

[azure sail]

Chair cursus

[visual meadow]

Chaircursus

Ok

[granite frigate]

put some food on there

[faint stag]

what kind of food tbh

[torn oriole]

Debian packages

[faint stag]

so a box

lol

[azure sail]

@indigo peak your chair back looks painful to lean on

[indigo peak]

I made it in 5 min give me a break 😭😭

half of the 5 minutes was finding the PSD for the table

[torn cloud]

💀

there's no way this is real

roothide and procurus having the same icon is wild

[ashen birch]

was not approved by procursus team btw

[azure sail]

its not hard to make an original icon ngl

[torn cloud]

roothide officialy lost it

what's a good comment to put to describe what this does?? i put // Source file for interacting with PAC addresses but it's a bit vague

(i have no clue why it says  before the © btw)

[radiant idol]

wait...

could THAT be why SnowBoard and Jade dont wont properly?

wait no

nvm

disregard

[granite frigate]

no I don't think so

I can't pinpoint the issue with that, if it works fine on e then something may be wrong with bootstrapd or Ellekit on arm64

[radiant idol]

I still think it may be a dlopen issue

[placid kraken]

snowboard and jade work fine for me on serotonin if thats relevant at all

[granite frigate]

is there a way to start up a jbd with krw before userspace reboot and have it persist through the userspace reboot? how does Taurine do that?

[placid kraken]

however i believe snowboard causes sb to crash randomly sometimes

[slim bramble]

I love github action

Easy tweak build without mac

[cloud yacht]

I just build tweaks on linux

[slim bramble]

I get thrown random errors

if anyone has ideas

[radiant idol]

they dont work on arm64 for some reason

[radiant idol]

ok ok get ready for this

wait

no

huh

odd

[slim bramble]

yeah

I use github action

cuz theos don't like my debian

[placid kraken]

#import <objc/runtime.h> maybe?

[slim bramble]

yeah that's what I was about to test

nope

[radiant idol]

#import <substrate.h>

idk

[slim bramble]

same

oh nvm

new errors

now it's about logos

[olive peak]

Send error

[olive peak]

Probably need to include something else too but i dont knoww what

[slim bramble]

Bruh

now

github action have the same issues

[placid kraken]

are you including include $(THEOS)/makefiles/common.mk in your primary makefile?

[slim bramble]

yes

why ?

Ok recloned the repo

it seem to work

but I still have a lot of random errors

(it builds fine on mac)

[cloud yacht]

I feel like this is a missing UIKit import (idk what I'm talking about)

[radiant idol]

@import UIKit;

[cloud yacht]

do you have a proper SDK?

[slim bramble]

yes

new errors

this is fun

😭

Can't recognize int

[torn oriole]

nullptr_t

[slim bramble]

I can't anymore

stupid errors

[placid kraken]

bestie all of these errors lead me to believe you may have a broken theos installation

[slim bramble]

Just reinstalled it

[placid kraken]

i would recommend that you reinstall theos altogether and see if that fixes anything

[slim bramble]

like 5mins ago

[placid kraken]

ah

do you have full xcode or just clt

[slim bramble]

I have a real mac

[placid kraken]

ikik

[slim bramble]

I just prefer using windows cuz it's my computer

also compiles fine on mac

[placid kraken]

oh ok youre building on win?

[slim bramble]

WSL

[placid kraken]

maybe its an issue with your sdk

[slim bramble]

I've tried a bunch of sdks

[placid kraken]

hmmmmm

[slim bramble]

yeah this is trolling me

😭😭

Why can't I upload

bruh

Ig I still have github action to compile

[placid kraken]

is there a way i can add a sublabel to my cell without making a custom cell for that altogether

like surely there has to be a native cell that does that

[slim bramble]

is there a way i can have a double slider in settings

[visual meadow]

I think launchd is have stroke

Maybe not idk

[cloud yacht]

just close the cocaotop and stop worring about it

[visual meadow]

My bad

🙏🙏

[placid kraken]

lmao i made an icon and the difference between no cc and cc is insane

the corrections are minor anyway

i used the twemoji lotus emoji for this c:<

[visual meadow]

@indigo peak lol

[placid kraken]

what did you do husk

Userspace reboot changed system version

that sounds scary

[visual meadow]

to springboard path lol

[placid kraken]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1031264090238222457.webp?size=48&name=husk&quality=lossless

[visual meadow]

damn it

it still didnt work

im trying to do a more simplistic approach at replacing daemon paths

instead of just constantly hooking posix_spawn path

less system resource usage

i feel

@grave sparrow

void hook_xpc_dictionary_set_string(xpc_object_t dictionary, const char *key, const char *value) {
    if (!strcmp(value, "/System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app/SpringBoard")) {
        {
            xpc_dictionary_set_string_orig(dictionary, key, "/var/jb/System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app/SpringBoard");
        }
    } else {
        xpc_dictionary_set_string_orig(dictionary, key, value);
    }
    return;
}```

what is wrong with this

now it works but springboard is still normal

(i forgot the ! and thats why panic above)

hm

[cloud yacht]

oh thats how people make icons so good, they just steal public domain art

[placid kraken]

well i did make some changes to it lol

• the color corrections

diffusion with 80% size makes it look less flat

chromatic aberration makes the edges stand out more when at a small size

etc

[cloud yacht]

Yeah but I made all my icons from scratch

[placid kraken]

what do your icons look like?

i think thats a big improvement because its hd now too

[radiant idol]

if u wanna be fancy

make it so that when the toggle is disabled, theres no glow

when enabled, glow

[visual meadow]

const char *hook_xpc_dictionary_get_string(xpc_object_t dictionary, const char *key) {
    const char *retval;
    if (!strcmp(key, "/System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app/SpringBoard")) {
        {
            retval = xpc_dictionary_get_string_orig(dictionary, "/var/jb/System/Library/CoreServices/SpringBoard.app/SpringBoard");
        }
    } else {
        retval = xpc_dictionary_get_string_orig(dictionary, key);
    }
    return retval;
}```

[placid kraken]

SMART

omg im doing this right now

[visual meadow]

i edited and now it boots but springboard is not replace sadness

[cloud yacht]

https://github.com/WilsontheWolf/repo/tree/gh-pages/icons

[placid kraken]

nightwind this is amazing

[placid kraken]

hmmm i see

i have made some icons on my own in the past lmao

lemme see if i can find any

[indigo peak]

fancy prefs

I wanna redo gameseagull but hideroot dev doesn’t have gamepigeon on the app

😢

[placid kraken]

ofc, all my settings pages have been fancy

youve seen my enmity plugins

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1019692218564489349.webp?size=48&name=trolley&quality=lossless

[placid kraken]

wha

what actually is gamepigeon

ive seen it for Let's play 8ball!

[kind herald]

game

[placid kraken]

but other than that idk what it is

[kind herald]

Let's play 8 Ball!

[indigo peak]

iMessage games

[placid kraken]

ah i see

[placid kraken]

Let's play 8 Ball!

[indigo peak]

fr

[placid kraken]

by the way why do i need to make my pref icon so small

it looks terrible in the ui

but if i make it bigger it breaks sizing in the page

[radiant idol]

wait get ready for this

animate between them

[placid kraken]

i dont know how to do that lmao

[radiant idol]

how are you switching between them

[placid kraken]

would transitionWithView work here

[cloud yacht]

I should add prefrences to my next tweak but not a preference page and just tell users to use defaults

[placid kraken]

im calling setImage on my UIImageView

[radiant idol]

show me how you change between 'em

ah

yeah transitionWithView should work

[placid kraken]

you just have 1 largeTextCell which says like "USE DEFAULTS STOP BEING PICKY"

[placid kraken]

okk ill try

[radiant idol]

@cloud yacht has it been 31 hours yet

@cloud yacht has it been 31 hours yet

why did it double ping

[radiant idol]

lmfao

close enough smh

[cloud yacht]

I'm in the middle of class rn

[cloud yacht]

Nah just like in the depitction tell them

[placid kraken]

doesnt work lmao am i not doing it correctly

[UIView transitionWithView:self.imageView
              duration:0.5
               options:UIViewAnimationOptionTransitionCrossDissolve
            animations:^{
                [self.imageView setImage:updatedImage];
            }
            completion:nil];

can you even interpolate with setImage

[radiant idol]

hm

@placid kraken https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17274201/animate-images-in-uiimageview

[placid kraken]

hmmmmmm

it worked with just transitionWithView lmao

i wonder if i can find a way to signal to the user that they need to respring to see changes without an obnoxious alert every time they toggle

[cloud yacht]

I mean depends how crazy you want to be with forcing the user

[placid kraken]

if i force to respring altogether that kinda defeats the point of animating the icon at all

[cloud yacht]

Ive seen a button on top right that says respring when you edit something that needs a respring + footer that says this setting requires a respring

[placid kraken]

because you wont get to seee it

[cloud yacht]

or exit button alert (if user just closes the app they don't see the alert)

[placid kraken]

ok i will look into it

lemme push this for now

[left lantern]

you're using MBL on a photo? kwk

[acoustic imp]

@radiant idol when using keyframe to animate somthing. is it bad if i your transfrom to make it go to a certian size (in like the px thing) by using math?

[radiant idol]

what

[acoustic imp]

nvm il ask in real english when i get ther

@radiant idol ik having a dif issue, why is this doing this ??

self.controlsView.headerView.artworkView.transform = CGAffineTransformMakeScale(6,6);

[radiant idol]

uh

[acoustic imp]

can you not scale a view like bigger than it self?

[radiant idol]

i unno

don’t think so

well

turn off clipsToBounds ig

[acoustic imp]

well that probly wounldt chnage anything, just like clip the increase

[acoustic imp]

its infact off in these

[radiant idol]

L then

[acoustic imp]

🥲

[tepid olive]

hey y'all!

so I'm doing some kfd stuff

and I'm trying to grab the ipc_port object from an allocated port

but the address gotten from the is_table is always out of the kernel memory space

and I can't figure out why

[faint stag]

yeah i was also thinking respring button in corner if prefs changed

but make it whatever system red is and bold ig

[acoustic imp]

Make like the top bar like flash/like hover in and out red or sm color, and little text “respring needed to apply changes” or sm

[tight carbon]

The easiest and probably the best way (it seems to me) is to do as in the screenshot

[harsh junco]

No way

[primal perch]

PSLinkListCell
PSLinkListCell

PSLinkListCell

v

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PSLinkListCell

PSLinkListCell

PSLinkListCell

PSLinkListCell

PSLinkListCell

guess whatd ay it is

national annoy capt day

(everyday)

fr

OI ITS CHEWSDAY INNIT BRUV

🙏

[graceful gate]

@indigo peak Reminder!

[indigo peak]

omg I’m so sorry

@graceful gate so i remember there was a user who was helping me test the app at one point and the image files (even though they existed) came up as 0kb (non existent) on their device

do you have the right file names to match your info.plist?

[primal perch]

%hook _UIBatteryView
-(void)setShowsPercentage:(BOOL)enabled {
    %orig(YES);
}
%end```

new 1.99$ tweak on havoc

[harsh junco]

Havoc in a nutshell

[cloud yacht]

true

and somehow its going to slow the system down and crash springboard randomly

[placid kraken]

yes absolutely

[left lantern]

why not lightroom & PS /s

[placid kraken]

i use ae for most of my designs surprisingly enough

i dont know

ive gotten very used to ae

i can work very fast in it

[left lantern]

very used to MBL*

but yeah

[placid kraken]

not really i have sapphire and trapcode, shine, etc

[left lantern]

i also main AE, but, yknow, compositing software, not photo manipulation software

yeah the Red Giant suite, ofc

[placid kraken]

i use all a decent amount

[left lantern]

not the point of ze convo

issa png m8

[placid kraken]

true

i have no idea why i use ae

its literally just muscle memory to open it atp

[left lantern]

me fr

its open rn actually

just hogging memory now that i think ab it

[placid kraken]

heres a model i made in blender a few years back

look how much better it looks with CC (MADE IN AE)

i can be way more productive on ae i guess

:>

[granite frigate]

if you get this working lmk

[placid kraken]

animated and persistent

im really happy with how this respring button turned out

its also red but i overwrite the color so you cant tell

lmao

[granite frigate]

pog

[slim bramble]

Damn looks sooo cool

Good job

[granite frigate]

bit redundant since the bottom respring button's still there

[placid kraken]

the one at the top is to signal to the user that they need to respring to apply changes

the respring button at the bottom is just for utility to use at any time

[granite frigate]

oh aight

[primal perch]

linux 2

[spare stone]

anyone know any good places to discuss macOS development?

ideally low level stuff

[grim sparrow]

#development

[spare stone]

ok nice, I'll ask here when I have some questions, thanks

[lyric heron]

can someone tell me what this crash means

[slim bramble]

Sudachi

Is guilty

[lyric heron]

yeah i know

but why does the app crash

[slim bramble]

Do you happen to have access to the source code

Idk wtf it is

[lyric heron]

nop

[slim bramble]

They are trying to wait inside of a thread

[lyric heron]

could it be missing jit

[slim bramble]

Spinlock

[lyric heron]

i dont kpanic

only app crashes

[slim bramble]

A spinlock don’t really crack iOS does it

Got it to work, don’t mind the blue background I’m testing shit

Idk why it won’t animate after first one

@lyric heron ```No, the crash stack trace you provided does not suggest a spinlock issue. The crash appears to be an abort() call, and the stack trace shows a thread waiting on a condition variable, likely related to multi-threading.

Here's a breakdown of the relevant parts of the stack trace:

The thread with ID 0 (Thread 0) is waiting on a condition variable, as indicated by the functions from libsystem_kernel.dylib, libsystem_pthread.dylib, and libc++.1.dylib.
The crash seems to be occurring in the Sudachi application, specifically in functions at addresses like 0x102913120, 0x1029ef2c8, etc.
The crash may be related to UI layout, as it involves functions from UIKitCore and QuartzCore responsible for layout and rendering.
Without more context or information about the application and its codebase, it's challenging to pinpoint the exact cause of the crash. However, it seems to be related to threading and possibly synchronization issues. It might be worth checking the code around the mentioned addresses, especially in the Sudachi application, to understand the context of the crash and investigate any potential race conditions or deadlock scenarios.

If you have access to the source code, examining the sections of code related to multi-threading and synchronization would be beneficial. Additionally, reviewing any relevant crash logs or error messages leading up to this crash might provide more insights into the root cause.```

ChatGPT’s essay on it

[acoustic imp]

I got animations, ppl said what got looked good 👍

[slim bramble]

Well it’s not working

After first one

[acoustic imp]

I didn’t push yet

[slim bramble]

Well before you push integrate the last thing I added

@acoustic imp

Also

Don’t mind commit names

It was driving me crazy

[acoustic imp]

Lol, idc

[slim bramble]

😁

[slim bramble]

Also I’ve fixed the platterView thing

We can simplify the code

And remove like 25 lines of bloat

Check animatetolarge

[granite frigate]

how did you set the color of the music player?

[slim bramble]

Did some magic

And it worked

[granite frigate]

everything is magic

😭

[slim bramble]

(Exactly like I added rounded corners on iOS 14)

[granite frigate]

is it the MTMaterialView or sommething else

[slim bramble]

Not this one

I did that upper

But I think it’ll work

[granite frigate]

PLPlatterView?

[slim bramble]

Yup

[granite frigate]

Wait you can just set it to a UICOlor???

Im stupid af

[slim bramble]

My code is legit platterView.backgroundColor = settingsColor;

(It’s set to nil by default)

[granite frigate]

its joever

ok thx

[slim bramble]

Looks like setting it on MTMaterialView also works

Also to support iOS 14 you’ll need a little more magic

[granite frigate]

i was thinking maybe i'd have to change the material thing but idk how that works

[slim bramble]

Same there is a backgroundColor thing

[indigo peak]

Now the real question, how does it look without your font

[placid kraken]

ill turn off flora and my font soon

[indigo peak]

did you ever get it to work inside other sandboxed apps

like calculator

[slim bramble]

Just finished building latest apple llvm toolchain

🙏

[harsh junco]

Why

[slim bramble]

cuz theos broken on my wsl

[faint stag]

did you install with trollstore

[lyric heron]

yes

[placid kraken]

no not yet

[lyric heron]

app launches and says jit enabled

[faint stag]

so it crashes when you try to load something

[lyric heron]

yes

[faint stag]

abort was called by thread 27
thread 27 is an instance of VkPipelineBuilder
it's just gonna be an issue the dev has to fix

[lyric heron]

ok

tyty

[placid kraken]

@indigo peak no flora coloring, no snowboard font, no settingsrevamped

[ashen birch]

big ass switch

[placid kraken]

ill make it bigger soon

[ashen birch]

sick

[placid kraken]

should take up an entire page

both vertically and horizontally

im not a guy but sure

[placid kraken]

would this even be something i can do

without proper app injection in serotonin

I know the AppEnabler thing exists but does that enable tweak injection? if so what do i need to change

i should look at libsandy again later

[faint stag]

i thought that was the intention

like, the entire reason why people were bootstrapping to begin with

lol

[indigo peak]

yes i linked you how to do this the other day

[radiant idol]

FYI you can tint switches too

[placid kraken]

i know i purposefully didnt tint it so that it can be tinted by flora

[faint stag]

add a separate option for switches if you didn't already

[placid kraken]

idk lmao

[placid kraken]

lmao it's just tinted by systemGreenColor

[faint stag]

yeah ik

[cloud yacht]

so this tweak only effects things that use the system colours, right?

[placid kraken]

nope

[cloud yacht]

So if I use hsv will it change colours?

[placid kraken]

it also tints redColor, greenColor, etc aswell as dynamicXyzColor, tableXyzColor, externalXyzColor, etc

basically as many relevant colors from UIColor as possible

[cloud yacht]

oh so if I make my own colour, its not effected?

[placid kraken]

nope

[cloud yacht]

hows it know when to replace it?

[placid kraken]

it swizzles all the named color methods lol https://github.com/acquitelol/flora/blob/main/Tweak/Flora.x

your colors would be custom using [UIColor red:abc blue:def green:ghi alpha:jkl]

which means the code doesnt swizzle it

[cloud yacht]

well [UIColor colorWithHue: (battery * .333) saturation: 1 brightness: 1 alpha: 1.00]; so if I make my own colour its not effected then

[placid kraken]

nope

only like [UIColor tableCellGrayTextColor] or whatever

[cloud yacht]

ok

[placid kraken]

i could in theory theme those

but it would likely cause undefined behavior

[cloud yacht]

well you could easily define it

but probably better not to

would look silly if eliza just cnaged colour at some super specifc colour value

[placid kraken]

in theory i can swizzle the original UIColor and do my hsv parsing of it where i replace the hue and increment the saturation and brightness

because the way i want to do it doesnt involve just replacing the color altogether

i want to manipulate it to be the same as the original color but with a new hue that the user defines

[hasty ruin]

manipulation :/

[cloud yacht]

isn't that just that one accessiblity feature?

[placid kraken]

uhhh kinda

if you mean this

[cloud yacht]

yes

[placid kraken]

you would be able to define your own two primary and secondary colors and the saturation and brightness of the new color is influenced by the color you define

itll alternate between primary and secondary

it should divide the saturation by 20 to get a value from 1 to 5, it should try to add the new saturation to the existing saturation and if it ends up at > 100 it subtracts the new saturation instead

same for brightness

i can mess with this later i guess

[granite frigate]

it installs the app via TS then fucks up uicache

sommehow

i'm not sure how it works

[placid kraken]

oh so THATS why it takes so long on Applying........

[granite frigate]

yes lol it moves the original .app to .appbackup then reinstalls it w ct signing

then uicache is redirected to the patched .app

[placid kraken]

that makes more sense i just thought it was a really bad application process

[slim bramble]

Objective C is cursed part 99999

Tweak.xm:204:37: error: expression is not assignable
  204 |         adjunctItemView.sizeToMimic.height += 300;
      |         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ^
Tweak.xm:212:37: error: property 'size' not found on object of type 'UIView *'
  212 |         platterView.backgroundMaterialView.size.height = 160;
      |                                            ^
Tweak.xm:213:37: error: property 'origin' not found on object of type 'UIView *'
  213 |         platterView.backgroundMaterialView.origin.y = 160;
      |                                            ^
Tweak.xm:220:25: error: expression is not assignable
  220 |         self.frame.size.height = 160 + playeradjustwy;
      |         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ^
Tweak.xm:230:37: error: expression is not assignable
  230 |         thatfrucstakview.frame.size.height = 218 + playeradjustwy;
      |         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ^
Tweak.xm:232:49: error: expression is not assignable
  232 |         self.controlsView.headerView.frame.size.height += playeradjustwy;
      |         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ^

[slender glade]

yea you can only do that in Swift

[slim bramble]

(ik why, thanks stackoverflow)

[slender glade]

you need to copy and re-assign the whole structure

[slim bramble]

I'm used to java

yeah

[slender glade]

and java too ig

[slim bramble]

Thanks stackoverflow

[slim bramble]

nope

I can assure you I can do that in java

[placid kraken]

ok @indigo peak riddle me this

in Safari the text color is themed with flora but other things like the navigation arent, see how the text is tinted pink (i manually changed the text colors to more pink)

does safari have its own dedicated webkit colors actually

it might

and even if it does that still would make no sense because why is safari themed and calculator isnt

[placid kraken]

sooo the buttons are manually tinted blue?

[indigo peak]

^ calculator buttons

[placid kraken]

is this just flex

[indigo peak]

yes

[cloud yacht]

The real question is what are they set with?

[placid kraken]

oh

[cloud yacht]

Do they just grab the system colour and set it?

[placid kraken]

theyre a property you can probably just _backgroundColor

[placid kraken]

yea i know but i kinda forgot flex can visualize colors lol

[placid kraken]

yea exactly

[cloud yacht]

So it should be themed

[placid kraken]

i theme that and it does nothing

[void quail]

Sorry, I'm new to iOS Developemnt. Is is possible to call dlopen before/during runtime with a dylib on an app through another app? With JIT / entitlements

[placid kraken]

for the record before you ask

[indigo peak]

send deb

for tweak

actually

wait

how do i compile for hootride

[placid kraken]

i dont compile for roothide

i compile for rootless and convert to roothide with patcher

[indigo peak]

wtf how are you saying that

[placid kraken]

because if i compile for roothide none of my swizzles work

[placid kraken]

??? idk

i guess try and see if you can now maybe its unblocked

[indigo peak]

roothide

[placid kraken]

omg

i think its because gir is down

[indigo peak]

nah

[placid kraken]

[[nexus]]

[indigo peak]

gir not down

i did ping before

[placid kraken]

nvm not anymore

did gir just leave me on read

fiore did you figure out how to install libgcuniversal yet

[indigo peak]

no lol

not for roothide

for rootless and rootful yeah sure

[left lantern]

you can say roothide here in #development

kwk

and other words i think too, just cause of dev talk though unfortunately

[placid kraken]

you dont install for roothide you just install altogether

just run install.sh

husk

[hasty ruin]

it got unfiltered

[left lantern]

wow pog why

[indigo peak]

@placid kraken

why is everything black

[placid kraken]

idk you probably have some prefs set from before and your EXMColorPickerCell broke something

reset preferences

either that or its another tweak

[cloud yacht]

Based off this, it already is #development message

[timid furnace]

what does this mean

[restive ether]

yessir

[brazen timber]

🧽

[pearl sail]

Bro are you failing English classes now?

[naive kraken]

can we fix the arch separation now?

[placid kraken]

^^^

[velvet path]

I still don’t see how you properly avoid an arch split in the context of RootHide

[naive kraken]

we've discussed this for months

I have everything laid out in my head

And Dopamine 2.0 is going to drop the hardcoded /var/jb for non bootstrap packages no matter what

[velvet path]

problem is:

• rootless v2 is still not out (this is still an issue)
• how do you prevent installation of 100% incompatible tweaks (tweaks that don’t use rootless v2 with RootHide)

[restive ether]

not your problem no one adopted it to begin with

[velvet path]

who are you referring to

[naive kraken]

RootHide

I guess

[velvet path]

they want all of 15+ to use iphoneos-arm64

[naive kraken]

RootHide becomes iphoneos-arm64, devs can support it and rootless with the same package

(Only for external packages)

It doesn't have to be adopted

This is just to make it less painful for package developers

RootHide and Procursus would just be different bootstraps with the same arch

[placid kraken]

opa i had a question

is roothide actually a good idea compared to rootless

like, putting jbroot in the applications container

[naive kraken]

Nothing, they work on both

You have a library that handles getting the root path, the jailbreak provides that library and everything using that library can install on both

[velvet path]

thing is rootless uses hardcoded /var/jb and roothide uses none of that

[naive kraken]

• jailbreaks that don't have the library can still be supported by falling back to /var/jb

[placid kraken]

i know that regular apps like banking apps cant get access to the applications directory because theyre sandboxed but is there any other benefits than that?

[naive kraken]

the only problem is there will be a transitional period where packages that don't use the library yet won't work on iphoneos-arm64 roothide

[velvet path]

can I just honestly ask: how are developers going to be motivated to update to your rootless v2 thing

[naive kraken]

they just have to recompile if they're using the theos rootless macros (which they should)

[velvet path]

keep in mind that it is still not released

[naive kraken]

we just nicely ask them

[velvet path]

I agree with that but at the same token this community will not do that

[naive kraken]

ok but then what

[placid kraken]

tbh needing to reinstall theos for roothide is a terrible idea

[naive kraken]

some package is non functional on roothide

[radiant idol]

I think a proper guarantee that this is the LAST time we'll have to recompile would get most devs to update

[placid kraken]

ive hated that from the start

[steady nest]

it's the same thing that's currently happening

[naive kraken]

reinstall?

[slim bramble]

you just gotta update it

[radiant idol]

RH has had a custom Theos

[naive kraken]

make update-theos && make clean && make package

done

[steady nest]

if the dev doesn't build for roothide, it doesn't work on root-hide

[velvet path]

ok let me rephrase this: what’s the motivation to update theos if the current setup works fine

[placid kraken]

as in you need to run the theos installer from roothide instead of theos themselves

[naive kraken]

ah I see

[radiant idol]

well it has a patcher

[naive kraken]

in my proposal that won't be needed

[slim bramble]

shit patcher

[radiant idol]

no actually, it is a pretty good patcher

[placid kraken]

does it.. no longer have a custom theos? for the new package scheme? are they finally becoming sane?

[slim bramble]

we don't have the sources to it

....

[radiant idol]

I do

I saw it

[placid kraken]

isnt it just a fork of haxi0's derootifier but with more thingies lmao

it looks very similar design wise

[naive kraken]

to support RootHide 😂

[radiant idol]

only the UI is the same

[slim bramble]

skidding™️

[velvet path]

it’ll probably be OSS’d

[slim bramble]

I hope so

[naive kraken]

plus if you're on a build that supports rootless, updating won't be hard

[radiant idol]

none of the internals are the same at all

[placid kraken]

ok i see

have they fixed the fact that the credits button does nothing yet

[slim bramble]

How did you get access to it ?

[velvet path]

ok, and what happens if we ditch /var/jb (whether desired or forced by other changes)

[radiant idol]

I asked tuancc, I needed it as a reference for a project I'm making

[slim bramble]

/var soon signed

[steady nest]

@naive kraken you're better off making a white paper at this point

[velvet path]

the problem I see is that it would’ve made sense if it wasn’t be layered onto an existing thing

[slim bramble]

Oops I leaked an iOS 18 security feature

[naive kraken]

also something important to note: this is just for external packages, the bootstrap can still hardcode the root path if it wants (like Procursus does with /var/jb)

[placid kraken]

i feel like they will slack with ios 18 innovations in security

[velvet path]

even ignoring this I don’t see how RootHide could have adopted this without the API already existing

[slim bramble]

/var signed™️

[naive kraken]

as an additional upside of this, we will never have to change anything again even if /var/jb becomes unviable

[steady nest]

idk bro they could've instead worked on helping implement it instead of making a whole ass new arch

[naive kraken]

I begged tuan to just let me make this API for months

he declined

[slim bramble]

They are straight up lying in their tweets 🤷‍♂️

[velvet path]

tbf they probably wanted a fast solution

[naive kraken]

this could have been solved in a couple of days

in fact, it will be

give me a week and it's done

[placid kraken]

thats what i was thinking yea

[velvet path]

plus you still have the problem of packages that haven’t been updated yet for it

[steady nest]

how's that an issue

[velvet path]

it makes the experience worse for an end user

[naive kraken]

that's merely a period of like a month where people will have figured out after

[radiant idol]

FYI: the patcher is open source but only the DynamicPatches part isnt:
https://github.com/roothide/RootHidePatcher/tree
cc: @slim bramble

[placid kraken]

doesnt that just become less of an issue over time

[naive kraken]

it will be a bit of an annoyance at first, but it will clear up quickly

[velvet path]

you’re assuming people will update everything in a month when even with rootless that didn’t happen

[slim bramble]

oh didn't know

[naive kraken]

yeah but that's because some devs are lazy, can't do anything about that

you can still use their tweaks on Dopamine if you really want them

[velvet path]

and now some devs have left

[naive kraken]

then no roothide support for those packages

[placid kraken]

ive never actually had to use that, what kind of tweak needs it? rootful usually works with the simple tweak mode, rootless works with the.. well.. rootless compat layer

[naive kraken]

wouldn't have happened in the first place

[acoustic imp]

they have to use the patcher for those packages*

[radiant idol]

things like Filza

[velvet path]

again, my point comes back to the end user

[steady nest]

how so

[placid kraken]

ah i see

[steady nest]

you're missing the point

[naive kraken]

you can still do that though with v2

[steady nest]

roothide support for those packages wouldn't happen in the first place

[naive kraken]

yes

[radiant idol]

yeah the patcher can just be changed and made into iphoneos-arm64

sounds decent enough ig

[naive kraken]

the end user will be informed about this change and that it's good for them

What I'm saying is, for stuff that was already adapted to RootHide, it will take at maximum a month to work on new RootHide

anything else doesn't matter

it will be installable yes, but it just won't function

binaries won't start, dylibs won't load

[velvet path]

this is gonna be like rootful and rootless again where we say it’s good and then people will whine that rootful (or in this case, legacy RootHide) is better for like 6 months

[naive kraken]

I highly doubt it

this is not comparable

[radiant idol]

I honestly don't see any people actually liking iphoneos-arm64e currently

[velvet path]

maybe on less of a scale, sure, but still

[slim bramble]

it's bad

[velvet path]

honest question: has this been checked before

[naive kraken]

that doesn't have to be checked

linking will just not work

if my binary links /var/jb/whatever and /var/jb doesn't exist it's not going to run

[opal ridge]

so there will need to be some flag to indicate that it's supported or not supported

[velvet path]

I guess my questions are:

• will it try to create /var/jb
• if it doesn’t, will everything then be handled sanely

[opal ridge]

such as an extra dpkg field

[velvet path]

but how do you add that flag retroactively

[naive kraken]

all iphoneos-arm64 jailbreaks will have /var/jb

[velvet path]

I’m referring to RootHide here

[naive kraken]

just roothide will have it inside the randomized folder that it uses as it's dpkg root

[slim bramble]

Is roothide really mandatory or we can get regular rootless jbs on 16+ ?

[naive kraken]

so for roothide it will be /var/jbroot-<UUID>/var/jb and it will point to /var/jbroot-<UUID>

[velvet path]

it was never mandatory

not even close

[naive kraken]

nothing is mandatory it's just for making the jb undetectable

[slim bramble]

Then why tf does it exists ?

[naive kraken]

for making the jb undetectable

[opal ridge]

you don't because nothing that has iphoneos-arm64 arch supports roothide

[slim bramble]

yeah just saw your message

thanks

[velvet path]

you’re missing the context

opa wants to get it to switch to that arch

[opal ridge]

iphoneos-arm64e packages can be trivially converted to an iphoneos-arm64 package with the flag

because they are designed to take just about any root path

[velvet path]

the context is existing iphoneos-arm64 packages on RootHide

[naive kraken]

I'm thinking if there is a way to prevent installation of old unsupported packages on RootHide iphoneos-arm64

but tbh I don't know

[opal ridge]

Don't allow installation if the flag is not present

it won't work anyways

[naive kraken]

But again I don't think this is a neccessity

anything that has a binary postinst will likely fail to install

anything else will install but not work

[hasty ruin]

even if they dont, the tweaks will still work on rootless

[naive kraken]

at least if it links something that some other package provided

so probably not even that is a concern

[naive kraken]

yes

[opal ridge]

make roothide dpkg require a certain control field to be present

[naive kraken]

but then we'd had to add that control field to everything in theos

[opal ridge]

is that a problem

[velvet path]

that would allow for another feature: not supporting RootHide if it’s undesired

[opal ridge]

rootless v2 is already going to need changes in theos anyways

[naive kraken]

not with me

but maybe the theos people don't like it?

[velvet path]

to be honest @opal ridge has actually proposed a reasonable solution to the issue

[naive kraken]

we could just have a flag for whether it uses the rootless-v2 api or not

then RootHide could check it but Dopamine doesn't need to

[cloud yacht]

Question, how will this work with shell scripts?

[elfin quarry]

what about checking the directory structure of the deb?

[naive kraken]

won't change

[naive kraken]

ugh

idk

PATH?

[opal ridge]

roothide shell scripts acts as if /var/jbroot is mounted on /

[naive kraken]

yeah that's a problem

[opal ridge]

symlink /var/jb inside jbroot

to jbroot

that will do

[naive kraken]

ah

[cloud yacht]

that sounds like a bit of a hack

[naive kraken]

no that has to be done either way

to support the iphoneos-arm64 package structure

(which we cannot change)

[cloud yacht]

wait doesn't new abi break compatibility with iOS older than 13.0 or whatever? Does this mean I'll still need some kind of double package setup to support older iOS's if we merge the old arch

[naive kraken]

we do not merge the old arch

we merge iphoneos-arm64 and iphoneos-arm64e

and this has nothing to do with arm64e

arm64e is roothide, arm64 is rootless

:/

[cloud yacht]

oh

I must've missunderstood something

[pearl sail]

Take a flamethrower and burn it all down

[naive kraken]

yeah it's almost as if these names have been designed to be misleading

😄

[opal ridge]

all arch name has been misleading since iOS 7 arm64

except appletvos-arm64

[naive kraken]

ok we have figured it all out

[cloud yacht]

oh wait what is iphoneos-arm64e?

[hasty ruin]

roothide

[elfin quarry]

roothide

[naive kraken]

RootHide package arch

[cloud yacht]

oooh

[unique wedge]

yes, actually rh requires two apis, jbroot and rootfs, since it both separates access to the jailbroken file system and the original file system, if opa's v2 only provides one, it can't solve the compatibility problem

usually tweak/jailbroken apps only require one api, but if they need to interact with bootstrap, then another API may be needed, and the access to the original file system in the shell is also different, adding /var/jb to jbroot does not guarantee compatibility

[naive kraken]

this is not an issue.

[cloud yacht]

can we symlink/mount the real root into the jbroot?

that would allow shellscripts to access real root if they need to

[naive kraken]

external packages will have / as rootfs

and the jailbreak root they get from the API as jbroot

[unique wedge]

this is why I didn't use the merged package at the beginning. It's not that I didn't want to, it was just that it was really difficult

[unique wedge]

but in rh / is the jbroot, /rootfs/ is the rootfs

[naive kraken]

for bootstrap packages

and that's fine

but not for external ones

[opal ridge]

in fact, most current external roothide packages already uses / as the rootfs

i believe

and just call jbroot(something) to access the jbroot

[naive kraken]

yeah this is how it should be done

[frosty gale]

I like this idea

[naive kraken]

what the bootstrap does doesn't matter

it can have whatever the fuck as /

that's fine

[unique wedge]

already done in rootless-compat

[frosty gale]

Ah, I see

[unique wedge]

/ is not the point, /rootfs/ is

[naive kraken]

No

that's only done for the scheme4 (or something) stuff you did to make the bootstrap work

which again, is fine and doesn't need any changes as the jailbreak ships the bootstrap and the repo

[velvet path]

rootless v2 basically does not apply to bootstrap packages

[naive kraken]

all of what we're discussing only affects third party packages

and for those, the scheme4 patches do not apply

what the jailbreak gives them as root path is the jbroot path

and / is rootfs

[velvet path]

the only thing that changes on the bootstrap side is an arch switch to iphoneos-arm64

that’s it

[unique wedge]

not just about bootstrap packages, tweaks/jailbroken apps usually also need to interact with bootstrap, such as installation scripts, shell scripts, and calling the command line tools of bootstrap

[cloud yacht]

also where are jailbroken tweaks and whatever supposed to store data (when not using defaults). Is it in JB Root? If so how do they access that?

[naive kraken]

calling command line tools is not an issue, you know what the jb root is

[opal ridge]

wouldn't a rootfs() api fixes that

[frosty gale]

I’m guessing this for connecting to the jbroot?

[naive kraken]

scripts are tricky yes

[opal ridge]

he means passing arguments to tools which has their own understanding of paths

[naive kraken]

smh

[elfin quarry]

by using the rootless v2 api?

[unique wedge]

using the api, just like rootless macros.

[unique wedge]

the fix is possible on rootless