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slender glade
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The 1.50$ pip calculator too

crisp frost
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wtf is a houdini

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my nose is bleeding

slender glade
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I remember it

slender glade
native orbit
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u real for that

slender glade
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I’m always real

crisp frost
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that

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i heard of that once

slender glade
crisp frost
slender glade
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Yeah those have existed for a long time but now they’re overpopulated like children

native orbit
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was basically a jb with no cydia or injection

slender glade
slender glade
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lol

crisp frost
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or

native orbit
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nah

slender glade
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it changed the notif colors and what

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Like the notif badge colors

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I don’t remember what else

crisp frost
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basically MDC tweaks

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or

native orbit
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im thinking of saigon i think

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idk man, it by the same dude

slender glade
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pwn gets a lot of shit

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but he made like

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THE FIRST restore rootfs tool

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so I think there’s some credit to be given to him

native orbit
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wasnt it bingner

slender glade
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And he implemented it in a funny way too

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no it was own

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Pwn

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He reversed mobile obliterated and somehow used it for this

native orbit
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he also pushed cydia in ios 14

slender glade
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I still don’t understand the MO part

crisp frost
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WHY does my iPhone X not boot linux

slender glade
slender glade
native orbit
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negative rjb social credit

slender glade
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I remember the era of jb that was just people dickriding devs like crazy because maybe 4 people understood what was happening technically

native orbit
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tempted to rewrite the exploit in swift so i can have 100% swift jb trol

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slender glade
crisp frost
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we do NOT want a 100% swift jb

native orbit
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i do

slender glade
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@crisp frost remember that jbinit we had to rewrite

crisp frost
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which jbinit

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checkm8 jbinit?

slender glade
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Sec

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The one palera1n used

crisp frost
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yea

native orbit
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system() in swift is cursed

slender glade
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From the old jbinit

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Lmfao

native orbit
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oh nah

slender glade
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I didn’t write that btw

crisp frost
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this was me coming out of my sunst0rm days 🔥

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I learned a lot since then

native orbit
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insane dev glow up

slender glade
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Lmfao same

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💀💀💀💀

native orbit
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mfw cant use camelcase in swift

slender glade
crisp frost
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recompiling linux kernel for iPhone X because it does not want to boot

native orbit
slender glade
slender glade
native orbit
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nah just dyslexia beating my ass

slender glade
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@crisp frost how you got Linux on an x

hasty ruin
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rewrite in a good language

native orbit
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yea so swift

crisp frost
slender glade
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Swift

crisp frost
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fully up-to-date linux-next

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for iphon

slender glade
hasty ruin
slender glade
hasty ruin
crisp frost
hasty ruin
crisp frost
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.

native orbit
hasty ruin
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doctored

crisp frost
native orbit
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crazy

hasty ruin
crisp frost
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oh

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didn't even see it ws private

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smh

hasty ruin
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aaron ban this user

crisp frost
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noooo

faint timber
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We just can’t have anything nice

slender glade
crisp frost
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nooo

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don't leak the super secret thread

faint timber
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CHICKEN BUTT

slender glade
slender glade
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Thanks cryptic for the valuable contribution to development

next wadi
primal perch
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mischievous intent

next wadi
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the guess what incident of august 27th 2023

primal perch
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the hindenburg tragedy

next wadi
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true

next wadi
primal perch
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yeah true

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footage of jaidan making that gif

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real (2023)

next wadi
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i love president ronald reagan

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fuck the union

hasty ruin
next wadi
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true

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innit

primal perch
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bruv n ting

native orbit
steady nest
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why's basically everything pinned from capt

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don't you have a fucking notepad

hasty ruin
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eta?

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i did not

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fr

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i just opened the channel and it took me there

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prob bc i was looking at even older stuff earlier

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2 days after

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damn

slender glade
steady nest
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poor guy

hasty ruin
slender glade
hasty ruin
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not my screenshot

steady nest
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who the fuck is andrew

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no way

slender glade
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have a look at this funny meme! LOL!

visual meadow
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The most half assed screenshot in the universe by apple

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Even got the TestFlight breadcrumb 💀💀💀

slender glade
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lmfaoo

primal perch
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apple moment

slender glade
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fuckkkkkk

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visual meadow
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The latest ver?

slender glade
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no initial

visual meadow
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Yeah the latest version is just a wholeass new project i think

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All it shows is that screeb

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screen

rigid gate
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Whitename?

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Lmfao

slender glade
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💀

visual meadow
blazing vault
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highest quality code

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native dune
hasty ruin
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.

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not sure what's worse

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that code

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or you using block comments on every line

severe stream
primal perch
primal perch
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just statements in a view did load

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💀

tepid olive
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how hard is it to add kfd offsets for my device

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or is it just tedious

hasty ruin
gaunt pewter
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hihi emyWave

torn oriole
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Attention

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Thank you for your attention

hasty ruin
twilit jungle
primal perch
plain python
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horror story in 4 words: "merge conflict in storyboard"

torn oriole
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Experienced it once, never again

native orbit
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at least it aint swiftui shrug

placid kraken
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genuinely curious if you guys hate tsx (react) more than swiftui or not

gentle grove
placid kraken
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i didnt say they were lol

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by tsx i just mean xml style syntax

gentle grove
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html

tacit spade
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What the fuck, LaughingQuoll passed away?!?

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Then don’t

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my god wtf

lime pivot
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yeah this news really hit me hard

tacit spade
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I mean I was never a fan of his gesture implementations but damn. He’s part of the reason why I’m a computer science major today

lime pivot
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what they’ve said publicly is car crash btw

tacit spade
pine holly
vivid dew
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rip

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@mighty maple happy birthday big woman

mighty maple
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thank :3

hasty marsh
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@mighty maple happy womb eviction day

mighty maple
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thank

hasty marsh
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np ;3

faint stag
pine holly
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Objective-C isn’t difficult, fucking tweak dev is

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Shits aids 😭

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Can’t do anything while I’m sandbox, gotta break your back to find functions

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Ok but I am a little shit at Objective-C I can’t lie

faint stag
pine holly
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I know and I hate those cause last one I used crashed Proc’s in sandbox 😭

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MRYIPC moment

lime pivot
pine holly
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Haha

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I understood what happened

lime pivot
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wouldn't want to be insensitive about it since we were pretty close

pine holly
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Nah for sure, you are fine. I was just a little confused for a sec haha

primal perch
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@mighty maple happy birthday big woman

brazen timber
torn oriole
tepid olive
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if you are gonna make a c like syntax do it like rust

brazen timber
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I think I like objective c's syntax better than rusts

hasty ruin
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Rust syntax is horrible

slender glade
tepid olive
slender glade
tepid olive
slender glade
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glad we established that

slender glade
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Today is personality 7

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that day was personality 5

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im joking but it's a bit annoying to see this sentiment of just random ass meaningless critisiscm by no names

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like wtf does "babified syntax" even mean

hasty ruin
lime pivot
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I promise you a dude who mostly writes C/C++/ObjC has no relevant opinion about Swift

slender glade
slender glade
primal perch
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swift bad because it’s not objc

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smash ultimate bad because it’s not melee

lime pivot
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only time I’ve had something not possible in Swift it was straightforward to write a C func or ObjC class to encapsulate it

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like at least the language gives you options to interop like that?

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now C++ also

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which solves the use case Zebra 2 had that necessitated ObjC bridging

slender glade
lime pivot
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mfw I can’t drop to asm in a memory safe language

primal perch
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in-line asm is ass everywhere but msvc anyway

wooden yarrow
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who has learnt both rust and swift

slender glade
slender glade
wooden yarrow
slender glade
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Well

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Just ok at it ig

wooden yarrow
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damn

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ok

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so

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in your experience

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which was easier to learn

slender glade
wooden yarrow
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is it really?

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i mean

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maybe it doesn't have the same ownership/borrowing rules like rust does

slender glade
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It is really

wooden yarrow
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that makes swift easier to get your head around

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but

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damn

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maybe i should learn swift just in case

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if i've learnt rust successfully then surely i might be able to learn swift too

slender glade
hexed knot
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Rust sucks

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Ugly lang

wooden yarrow
wooden yarrow
hexed knot
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lol

slender glade
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r/jailbreak's new post w the [request] tag are just the driest

image.png
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This means you changed your res in a way you shouldn't have you idiot

image.png
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why would u even do that

restive ether
granite frigate
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fix xen for ios 16

slender glade
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Keep it dead

slender glade
granite frigate
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FUCK

slender glade
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like why do they edit random plists in var

restive ether
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because they find some guide online with 2 upvotes and think it’s a good idea to trust it

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there’s an infinite amount of psuedoscience that goes on over there

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like with stability and battery life

slender glade
restive ether
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that’s what i mean, no regard for anything

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like yeah let’s just turn off healthd

slender glade
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The sub should literally delete any post or reply that tells you to edit a plist or unload a daemon for “performance / battery benefits” without proving it

grim sparrow
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I just use C stuff dead

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reinterpret_cast??? lame

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cout << "Hello World"; ????

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statements by the mentally deranged

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printf("Hello World");

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The only thing i use C++ for is classes, I just use C for everything else

slender glade
slender glade
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Unironically

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There are people good at c, swift, objc etc but I’ve never someone “good” at c++ lmao

native orbit
slender glade
slender glade
wooden yarrow
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all the good programs are written in C

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qemu? C. linux? C (well and Rust but the majority is still C). ffmpeg? C.

wooden yarrow
zenith hatch
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c++ is wild

wooden yarrow
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i can mentally transcribe assembly to C faster than I can read some mf's C++ code

tepid olive
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messing with optimization flags isnt bad but it should be done in a per package basis with testing to ensure you are actually gaining performance and to ensure the package works as intended or expected

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so in my opinion removing posts about risky things with no proven gain should be universal

wooden yarrow
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you do not need it !

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-O2 best

tepid olive
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yes lol

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i still hear people talk about it

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and more experienced people tell the truth

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also with the average L3 cache sizes of today performance benifits can get outweighed by the larger binary

primal perch
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int c;
__asm { mov c, eax; }

slender glade
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Wtf

wooden yarrow
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tr

primal perch
grim sparrow
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like if I'm writing embedded software

slender glade
grim sparrow
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lol

wooden yarrow
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you are Apple brained

slender glade
wooden yarrow
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(i know what it means)

slender glade
wooden yarrow
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but you are Apple brained

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🙏

slender glade
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Uh huh

primal perch
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ur thinking of -Ofast

native orbit
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-Ofast when the app just stalls supershocked

primal perch
lime pivot
primal perch
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removing daemons
uninstalling the javascript app ur running all day(discord)

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drake meme

lime pivot
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it's almost as if the battery they drain is used to do the things they ask the phone to do, or something

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it's the same mentality everyone used to have about Windows

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everyone was like Windows is so broken! you have to buy these 3rd party tools to fix Windows and make it faster

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in reality they did nothing useful other than give you the placebo impression you were doing something

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the real "make Windows faster" was just that it turns out hard drives are slow and RAM is expensive

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and now both SSDs and RAM are cheap

wooden yarrow
tepid olive
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Hello folks

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Greatings from slovenia

slender glade
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jk I went to bled and the capital and I loved it

slender glade
tepid olive
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Than you love slovenia not hate👌

zenith hatch
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“gm” developers

primal perch
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nah my shits pristine on jallah

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i dont abuse macros like that

native orbit
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shepware gets the pass

primal perch
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🙏

native orbit
primal perch
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(all 2 shepware programs )

native orbit
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2 good programs >>>>> 50+ mid dependencies

primal perch
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yeah true

placid kraken
worthy rune
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boilerplate

slender glade
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@naive kraken where do u guys hook into xpcproxy

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is it automatic after a userspace reboot or

naive kraken
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systemhook takes care of that

slender glade
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Just in the spawn hook common?

naive kraken
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again the main purpose of systemhook is to reinsert itself into anything spawned

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and that's all you need to do in xpcproxy anyways

slender glade
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Aight

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Such as

naive kraken
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oh shit this will be an issue when I rework Dopamine to work over launchd

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what's the fix

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ah

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then not an issue

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I only need to communicate with launchd itself

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my code

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I'm not a meth addict

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I don't need pipes

pine holly
sacred orbit
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can i change dyld_shared_cache with mdc?

grim sparrow
naive kraken
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you can't even easily change the dyld_shared_cache with a PPL bypass

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anything involving codesigning is fuckery

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and writes through the vm_layer (like mdc gives you) will directly invalidate the codesignature

frank fossil
native dune
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yeah size has to be the same

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but uh I wonder which file is bigger

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if tips is bigger maybe you can pad it up with random bytes

hasty marsh
hasty ruin
hasty marsh
hasty ruin
hasty marsh
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you are sentenced to develop in swift

night rover
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Nexus.swift

radiant idol
lime pivot
hexed knot
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nop

severe ridge
brazen timber
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fairplay streaming is way more interesting

primal perch
cursive rampart
worthy rune
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swift is fun

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objc sucks

pine holly
brazen timber
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this is your sign to learn assembly

primal perch
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fr

pine holly
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Fuckkk I should

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After I get taurine working I’ll do more dev stuff

faint timber
pine holly
faint timber
# pine holly Huh

no to the rest doing that dance yesterday when I did that superlap sitting down in the freezer 👍

primal perch
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agreed

lime pivot
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how many fingers am I holding up

faint timber
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7

lime pivot
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recite the alphabet backwards

pine holly
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I have so many words I just can’t say here

faint timber
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zyxw alright I give ypo

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up

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officer I wasn't drinking tonight I promise

slender glade
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arent u the one who kept talking about "don't pin memes cause we just wanna keep the helpful stuff 🤓 "

primal perch
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yeah true

slender glade
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Pins just became his personal notebook lmfao

naive kraken
slender glade
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@naive kraken Have you had this issue before where sending a msg to jailbreakd w sendJBDMessage from launchdhook returns error 32 (broken pipe)?

hasty ruin
naive kraken
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at least not without major hacks

slender glade
naive kraken
slender glade
naive kraken
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xpc_connection_from_pipe and host_get_special_port

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or something like that idk

slender glade
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Even w that

naive kraken
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then idk

slender glade
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hm

hasty ruin
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@naive kraken is there a way to make AltList save the array in a particular order? even just like the order the apps were enabled in

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it seems to be completely random

naive kraken
hasty ruin
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thought so, thanks

indigo peak
indigo peak
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anyone know if its possible to edit the text in a psd file in like python or js or smth

burnt perch
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Does someone know where can I find offsets for A10 devices in iOS 15.x ?

slender glade
burnt perch
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Is there a guide or something? (I’m a “advanced user” (at least compared with the majority of people) but not expert at all)

slender glade
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IDA

burnt perch
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Thanks

wheat grotto
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what were offsets again ?

hasty ruin
indigo peak
vivid dew
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tr

slender glade
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@grave sparrow would fork work on arm64 without having to hook and fix it

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Asking if you’d know

faint timber
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iOS issue not specifically arm64e

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slender glade
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And that fork fix is only needed on arm64e

faint timber
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Slides are older information then

slender glade
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So I’ll try spawning it

slender glade
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I was aware of that change in 15 where it broke on non tc’d bins but opa told me it’s most probably arm64e specific

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(So I was hoping if someone could confirm if this was the case tr)

steady nest
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but can’t you easily test that

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just fork a hooked process and see if it crashes when calling the hooked func

slender glade
steady nest
primal perch
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mary ann ionascu

naive kraken
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the title is modern jailbreaking techniques and not ancient jailbreaking techniques

hasty ruin
faint timber
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I mean I care for arm64 I just don't care for kernel stuff or jailbreaking really

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I'm pretty much just into downgrading

slender glade
cloud yacht
hasty ruin
severe stream
visual meadow
native dune
pine holly
night rover
naive kraken
hasty ruin
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oh

faint timber
pine holly
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CRYTIC STOP

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I SWEAR

faint timber
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My binge is over I promise

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I’m sober I swear

pine holly
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At no point did i believe you were drunk

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that kind of stupid shit only is done when sober

faint timber
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No its in my copylog from last night

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Don’t look at my messages from yesterday

visual meadow
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i saw fdr bureau

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so i looked at ur messages in here lol

faint timber
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That’s nothing compared to what I said here

visual meadow
faint timber
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I only do it because it entertains myself

primal perch
faint timber
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It was quite regrettable though

hasty ruin
faint timber
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NO WAY I SAID THAT

hasty ruin
grim sparrow
lime pivot
grim sparrow
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I use basic

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:3

primal perch
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meow

vivid dew
main apex
primal perch
hasty marsh
native orbit
gentle grove
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man I was literally sending that

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@primal perch @grave sparrow

wooden yarrow
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and if "overloading" was possible then have another xor block but with # and a field

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fire scratch tho

wooden yarrow
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trolled

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lime pivot
worthy rune
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i need .pdf of fotran

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documentary

hasty ruin
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🗿

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already had this discussion

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after they sent the same message in another channel

worthy rune
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pretty sure ai generated

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text

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ion know

slender glade
hasty ruin
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I think @grave sparrow could do it

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Try DMing him

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Not sure

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Just disable UAC prompts fr

slender glade
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me

echo bobcat
slender glade
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_

hasty ruin
echo bobcat
worthy rune
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tl;dr

slender glade
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me

worthy rune
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i only read the removed by pid 4

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devious

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@hasty ruin create a tweak in scratch

restive ether
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this is insane

shrewd smelt
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@sharp niche did you try decompiling the kali linux kernel you can use the pointers to cross reference windows uac and disable it undetected

brazen timber
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so true

slender glade
hasty ruin
pearl sail
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You ain’t a hackerman

restive ether
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nah man kexts are the secret

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under utilized vulnerable software

pearl sail
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Nah you a fake hackerman

topaz yew
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kext is crazy

harsh junco
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Kext is icraze

turbid fjord
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Ketamine

harsh junco
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GIRc0ver

steady nest
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kext on windows

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this guy windows

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then says he only uses mac

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but also says he is poor

native orbit
pearl sail
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Broke ass

pearl sail
turbid fjord
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Fr

hasty owl
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is there a list of open source tweaks somewhere (preferably for tweaks that are ios 15+) / do you guys know any tweaks that support later versions of ios and are open source

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since tweak development has poor documentation in general

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i think just looking at code examples would suffice

radiant idol
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I have os tweaks there that work on iOS 15 and newer

naive kraken
# native orbit

smh this could have been the next jb name but now you've ruined it

slender glade
indigo peak
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youre funny

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there is no next jb

naive kraken
slender glade
slender glade
naive kraken
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🤫

slender glade
hasty owl
slender glade
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You’re gonna need to know iOS dev first

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So here’s a repo w a plethora of apps and tools that’ll help you

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capt shut up

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oh

indigo peak
hasty owl
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i'll get shit from ios 3

slender glade
hasty owl
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yes

slender glade
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@hasty owl where r u starting from

crisp frost
indigo peak
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yeah its a website that searches all github repos for a substring

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its pretty cool

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yes

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i think

crisp frost
slender glade
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Gh search is sooooo bad

hasty owl
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never touched ios dev

indigo peak
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@grave sparrow

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slender glade
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Maybe the worst search on a website after deviantart

slender glade
indigo peak
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can search by folder as well, filter languages, filter repos etc

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pretty cool

slender glade
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It’s very very very simple

crisp frost
slender glade
hasty owl
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all i've heard of objc are the memes

slender glade
hasty owl
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it's unreadable etc etc

turbid fjord
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It is unreadable - a swift dev

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@hasty ruin see you are WRONG

crisp frost
turbid fjord
hasty owl
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and ik some shit about the runtime because i had the misfortune of having to RE a ios app for a ctf

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nothing else tho

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so start from ios dev and objc first?

turbid fjord
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misfortune

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😭

slender glade
hasty ruin
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objc RE is easy as fuck wym misfortune

slender glade
hasty owl
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i didn't say it asn't easy

hasty ruin
hasty owl
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i just said misfortune

slender glade
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@hasty owl Ok look

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objective-c is just c with classes

hasty ruin
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People call objc ugly because of its verbosity, then call it unreadable

slender glade
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but in a much much simpler way than c++

turbid fjord
hasty ruin
slender glade
exotic spire
slender glade
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that's why he came to ask

hasty ruin
hasty owl
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so i start from ios dev and objc

slender glade
exotic spire
slender glade
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it's actually not that hard

hasty ruin
exotic spire
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I do not

hasty owl
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where does swift come into this tho

hasty ruin
slender glade
hasty owl
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isn't apple pushing swift or smth like that

indigo peak
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yes and yes

hasty owl
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so i can hook into swift apps from objc?

slender glade
slender glade
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most of what you'll want to hook is objc

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or has objc backing

hasty owl
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so swift**\ isn't very well adopted then?

slender glade
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it is

hasty owl
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if its possible to just avoid hooking into it

indigo peak
turbid fjord
slender glade
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both are very well adopted

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lol

hasty owl
#

ic

slender glade
#

but objc is much more due to it having existed for more than swift

crisp frost
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I recently started rewriting mineekboard for mineekOSiPhone in SwiftUI

hasty owl
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i dont get how im able to avoid hooking swift if something is written in swift

hasty ruin
turbid fjord
hasty ruin
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Or have you not implemented the lag yet

slender glade
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if you think swift isn't well adopted you're just a fool

hasty owl
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is there some sort of swift <-> objc translation layer

slender glade
hasty ruin
#

Gm

hasty owl
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oh boy

slender glade
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swift is hard to hook bc nearly all symbols are mangled

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like C++

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Don't think this needs any comment lol

hasty owl
crisp frost
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We NEED a 100% swift jailbreak

slender glade
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???

slender glade
hasty ruin
slender glade
#

are you denying that swift mangles function names

crisp frost
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honestly IMO swift is good for quick apps but for serious work do objc

slender glade
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bc u can't just put the function name to hook out of the box

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lol

hasty owl
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unless swift is doing something special

hasty ruin
slender glade
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what was his name

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kabir smth like that

crisp frost
turbid fjord
hasty ruin
turbid fjord
hasty owl
#

oh and also
how do i debug my tweak
do i attach lldb / frida whatever and wait for the dylib to be loaded?

turbid fjord
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Captware

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No thanks

slender glade
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jesus christ dude

hasty ruin
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I need to recreate the control centre settings table views but I keep putting it off because it seems like a lot of effort

slender glade
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do u need to stroke ur shit every 5 minutes

crisp frost
#

captware try not be malware challenge (100% fail)

slender glade
#

u can actually do that if u want tho

hasty owl
slender glade
hasty owl
#

yeah that is what i thought 👍

crisp frost
slender glade
hasty owl
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i just didn't know how dylibs were loaded

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because at least on desktop platforms people avoid doing it conventionally because of hook detection and stuff

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hard to trace in a debugger

hasty ruin
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I was gonna do it last night but xcode was being xcode

slender glade
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which is either

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libhooker, ellekit, substrate, substitute

hexed knot
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Or proprhooker

slender glade
#

no one using that

hasty ruin
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Or capt’s mother

hexed knot
#

I am

hasty ruin
#

Best hooker around

crisp frost
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I love how my MacBook cannot compile apps via theos if I use Xcode 15 beta

slender glade
hexed knot
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Or zeframinjector

crisp frost
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opainject

hexed knot
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Compiling apps with theos sucks balls

hasty ruin
hasty owl
slender glade
hasty owl
#

they better provide the same abi

slender glade
#

write once run everywhere type deal

hasty owl
#

ah okay

hexed knot
crisp frost
hasty owl
#

logos is that preprocessor thing in theos right?

hasty ruin
slender glade
hasty ruin
hasty owl
#

this makes more sense

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PAC = pointer authentication?

slender glade
#

yes

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mangling has nothing to do w it inheritly but ur not gonna like putting function names in the demangler to find what it is for every function lol

hexed knot
#

Shut the hell up

hasty owl
slender glade
hasty owl
#

unless it doesn't support swifts mangled names

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in which case

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AAAAAAAAAAAA

slender glade
#

IDA support for swift is a bit mid

crisp frost
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we need a tweak that replaces Siri with ChatGPT

hexed knot
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Im the best swift reverse engineer

slender glade
hasty owl
#

ida plugin time

slender glade
hexed knot
crisp frost
slender glade
#

it's on ur phone rn

exotic spire
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I'm respecting your privacy by being polite but asserting my authority by being here anyways

hexed knot
#

I dont want siri to be talking for 5 minutes when i ask what the weather is like

slender glade
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.swift_format smth like that

hasty owl
#

the whole sdk thing also confused me
are we linking against actual official sdks from apple?

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and if so what for

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just using apples components in ur tweak?

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ah okay so are we just praying that they don't dmca trol

hexed knot
#

No cuz nothings wrong with what we doing

hasty owl
#

oh i would think redistributing their sdks would be a nono

hexed knot
#

Ok well

slender glade
#

wasn't the iOS 15 sdk pinned here when beta 1 came out

brazen timber
slender glade
#

it def was

brazen timber
#

wat

hexed knot
slender glade
brazen timber
hasty owl
#

okay it's time to do some ios dev

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in objc

hexed knot
#

Hope u have a mac

slender glade
#

fr

hasty owl
#

i do not

hexed knot
#

Good luck

slender glade
#

oh man

hasty owl
#

but i have a macos vm in qemu

slender glade
#

oh okay

hexed knot
#

Ok better than nothing

slender glade
#

fire it up

hasty owl
#

and a amd gpu that can i pcie passthrough

hexed knot
#

Does it have hardware accel

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Ok good

hasty owl
#

yes

slender glade
#

objc in 90 seconds

hexed knot
#

Ur good then

slender glade
#

@glossy jasper classname = declare class

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@end end of decl

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-(type)methodName: (NSString *param)arg1; method decl

hexed knot
#

Instance method*

slender glade
#

yeah yeah well

hasty owl
#

does objc hooking rely on the fact that methodnames are exposed in calls or smth?

slender glade
#

if u change the - to the + u get a proton instead and it's a class method

hexed knot
#
  • is instance
  • is class
hasty owl
#

because in desktop we just sig scan

hexed knot
#

Fuck you discord

slender glade
hasty owl
hexed knot
slender glade
hasty owl
#

false!

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at least we can both agree it's better than rust syntax

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who thought ' was a good token for lifetimes

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WHO DID IT

hexed knot
#

Rust is like character vomit

slender glade
hasty owl
#

ah okay

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time to make a hooking library that sigscans

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😈

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is there an equivalent to RTTI?

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so you can do vtable hooking with names at least

slender glade
#

I was gonna deadass try to go over all the objc stuff in 1 message but I realized that after syntax it gets msesy

radiant idol
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objc runtime:

plain python
#

this is why Microsoft requires all x86_64 / arm64 drivers to be signed by their hardware portal

slender glade
slender glade
hasty owl
#

oh fun

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sigs it is then i suppose

plain python
slender glade
#

@hasty owl ```objc
@interafce SNManager

+(instancetype)sharedInstance;

@property (nullable) NSString *settableName;
@property (readonly) NSString *unsettableName;

-(void)loadStuff;

@end


Here it says: declare a class called SNManager, and create a class function called sharedInstance, a singleton created just once, with 2 properties: settableName, which u can set, and unsettableName, which is pretty much a function in the actual impl
hasty owl
hexed knot
#

interafce

slender glade
#

u can't add the impl in @interface, instead u gotta do that in an @implementation block

radiant idol
slender glade
#

uhh

radiant idol
slender glade
#

okay therr

radiant idol
#

Serena teaching objc WTFAHHHHHH

slender glade
hasty owl
slender glade
# 
@implementation SNManager

-(void)loadStuff {
  // Objective-C String literals for the NSString class type, which is often what is used instead of a char pointer (though they're exchangable), are prefixed with an @
  NSLog(@"loading stuff"); // log into apple log system

  self.settableName = @"hello";
}

@end
#

example impl ^

hasty owl
#

so i see the syntax was made in the same time it took the founder of brave to make javascript

#

other than that objc is okay

slender glade
hexed knot
#

Fr

#

Nextstep on top

#

NXString

radiant idol
#

i really love the distinct lack of optionals in objc (not sarcasm)

slender glade
hexed knot
#

Yeah

slender glade
radiant idol
#

yeah and it’s nicer to read than ??!?!?!?

slender glade
#

I disagree

radiant idol
#

ok swift dev

slender glade
hexed knot
#

Ive never written swift

slender glade
hexed knot
#

No point if i dont have a mac

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I use windows

slender glade
#

yeah

#

I think this year like a quarter of system binaries "have" swift but

hasty owl
slender glade
#

just linking Foundation does that

#

so idk if it counts

radiant idol
#

and it was so painful

#

i legitimately hate the syntax

slender glade
hexed knot
#

If i had a mac id prob be a swift dev

radiant idol
#

swift hurts to write in

slender glade
hexed knot
#

Cuz swift is better than objc objectively no pun intended

#

Its just faster

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Anyone who disagrees is ignorant

radiant idol
#

I don’t know about that part but writing swift legitimately pisses me off

#

It’s so overcomplicated

hexed knot
#

I think you need some anger management skills then

slender glade
slender glade
#

it's not as simple sure but it's not overcomplicated

hexed knot
#

Probably cuz it has exclamation points

slender glade
#

lmfao

radiant idol
#

js comes easy for example

slender glade
radiant idol
#

the syntax is decently easy and somewhat intuitive even though the js runtime is uhh

hexed knot
#

JavaScript is worse than swift

slender glade
#

by far

radiant idol
#

the js runtime is garbage

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but its syntax is good

#

I like it

slender glade
#

I hate js syntax so much dude

#

there's nothing i like about javascript

radiant idol
#

objc is very ugly but it doesn't take that much effort to understand how to write something for me

slender glade
#

or web dev in general

radiant idol
slender glade
#

objc is nice to read if ur not writing a block

radiant idol
#

yes dont even get me started on that

#

blocks are just

#

no

slender glade
#

I don't know how they made blocks in 2011 and still managed to have stupid fucking syntax for it

radiant idol
#

💀

hexed knot
#

Nothing about JavaScript is good

slender glade
#

it's crazier to me bc LLVM has an insane process for approving proposals

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they saw block syntax and where like

#

oh yeah this is good

hexed knot
#

Was my least favorite syntax but rust beat it

radiant idol
# 
function something(a, b) {
    const sum = a + b

    return (sum) => {
        return sum * 2
    }
}

idk i couldn't think of any better example

slender glade
#

idk how to explain it but

radiant idol
#

but the js blocks are decently easy to read compared to other langs

slender glade
#

the way js uses const really makes me cringe

radiant idol
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

hexed knot
#

And yea block syntax is the stupidest thing on earth

slender glade
hexed knot
#

I personally think objc syntax is good and fine but block syntax is objectively bad

slender glade
#

fav site

radiant idol
#

i still dont understand whatever ^ is in blocks

#

why is it there

slender glade
#

I don't think anyone likes block syntax

brazen timber
slender glade
#

it's like the discord mod of syntax

#

if that makes sense

radiant idol
#

💀

hexed knot
brazen timber
slender glade
#

bro is not rocking with weak self

hexed knot
#

Oh nooo theres a bad word in a minute long video

slender glade
#

it's still crazy to me that they took until iOS FOURTEEN

#

to add a block based UIControl api

#

14!!!!!!!!!!

#

and blocks have been around since 4

#

genuinely boggles my mind

radiant idol
#

world was better without blocks

slender glade
#

nah they're useful

#

just that their syntax is awful

radiant idol
#

yeah

#

ok seriously can someone explain what ^ is in the blocks and does it serve a purpose

#

I still don't know lol

slender glade
hasty owl
#

c++ lambdas are so much better 😌

Screenshot_20230903_155338.png
radiant idol
#

why a ^ 😭

radiant idol
hasty owl
#

they actually are

radiant idol
#

thats not as ugly as objc but like

#

still ugly

#

js:

(arg1, arg2) => {
    return arg1 + arg2
}
#

very simple

hasty owl
#

the problem that objc has is that it's function declaration syntax is already garbage

slender glade
hasty owl
#

it's just compounded bc of blocks

slender glade
#

how

#

oh

radiant idol
#

serena why are YOU defending objc

#

i never thought i'd see this

hasty owl
slender glade
radiant idol
#

no yeah i dont doubt that but for a lot of things js anonfuncs work