development

[plain python]

if you were wondering

[naive kraken]

how does higher trust level give you JIT

[plain python]

because then you could set the EXECSEG flag for allow unsigned

and it'd respect that flag

[naive kraken]

TIL that exists

I'm completely clueless on code signatures and csblobs

TrustCache injection saved my ass

[plain python]

I have a POC of some code that would let libhooker generate a code signature for random pages and sign it with the CT bypass meanwhile

too bad tweaks didn't even bother to use the substitute API, let alone libhooker's

[hasty marsh]

zeframhooker on top

[naive kraken]

How do you even map a dylib page on top of a binary page

When I tried that the overwritten page would not have the execute bit set

[plain python]

easy with mach_vm calls

[plain python]

as long as it's signed that's not a problem

[naive kraken]

yeah easy, but doesn't execute lol

[plain python]

it did for me

[naive kraken]

both were signed and trustcached

[plain python]

weird

[naive kraken]

what's the last iOS you tried that on

[plain python]

15.1

[naive kraken]

hm well

I'm on 15.1.1

so probably something wrong with how I tried doing it

[cloud yacht]

I have a hunch this is correct, because I'm pretty sure phone calls persist through resprings

And wifi and stuff

[indigo peak]

@native dune @pine holly this is why it wont when calling it inside a regular app...

bool __cdecl -[SBTelephonyManager isUsingVPNConnection](SBTelephonyManager *self, SEL a2)
{
  id v4; // x0
  id v5; // x20
  NSString *v6; // x0
  NSString *v7; // x21

  if ( ((unsigned int)unk_1F263B310(&off_1F263B940, "isMainThread") & 1) == 0 )
  {
    v4 = unk_1F25E3DD0(&off_1F25E3F68, "currentHandler");
    v5 = objc_retainAutoreleasedReturnValue(v4);
    v6 = unk_1F25D7D6C(&off_1F25DAD50, "stringWithUTF8String:", "-[SBTelephonyManager isUsingVPNConnection]");
    v7 = objc_retainAutoreleasedReturnValue(v6);
    objc_msgSend(
      v5,
      "handleFailureInFunction:file:lineNumber:description:",
      v7,
      CFSTR("SBTelephonyManager.m"),
      1073LL,
      CFSTR("this call must be made on the main thread"));
    objc_release(v7);
    objc_release(v5);
  }
  return *((_BYTE *)self + 19) & 1;
}

[native dune]

yeah so have it done in springboard

[indigo peak]

im trying to think of the best way to call it while also grabbing the return value

[primal perch]

static BOOL isVPNConnected()
{
    NSDictionary *dict = CFBridgingRelease(CFNetworkCopySystemProxySettings());
    NSArray *keys = [dict[@"__SCOPED__"] allKeys];
    for (NSString *key in keys) {
        if ([key rangeOfString:@"tap"].location != NSNotFound ||
            [key rangeOfString:@"tun"].location != NSNotFound ||
            [key rangeOfString:@"ppp"].location != NSNotFound ||
            [key rangeOfString:@"ipsec"].location != NSNotFound) {
            return YES;
        }
    }
    return NO;
}

or the jank stackoverflow way

[indigo peak]

bro what the fuck is that

[primal perch]

gorn

[indigo peak]

fr

[indigo peak]

wow wouldnt you know, it works 😭

[primal perch]

[indigo peak]

ty

[primal perch]

the actual way SBTelephonyManager is getting it is by registering notifications for this keypath

objc_msgSend(v32[12], sel_addObserver_forKeyPath_options_context_, v32, CFSTR("vpnActive"), 5LL, 0LL);

*(_BYTE *)(self + 19LL) = *(_BYTE *)(self + 19LL) & 0xFE | v3; then writing to it with v3 (part of some block context) on that notification which is thus the self + 19 referred to in that method

[slender glade]

If u put it into google it literally comes up

[primal perch]

fr

stackoverflow detect vpn

[slender glade]

Don’t ever tell anyone about that “go use google” shit again

[blazing barn]

I thought Crane was free?

GOD DAMN

[radiant idol]

There is Crane and Crane Lite

[blazing barn]

which one was free?

[radiant idol]

Lite

[pine holly]

@indigo peak what’s your issue 😭

The SBTelephony part wasn’t an issue.

The issue is when sandboxxed you can’t kill an application or process

So you have to commit to either sandbox with IPC server or whatever it’s called or find the best method outside sandbox (in springboard)

[primal perch]

%ctor {
    NSString *version = [[NSBundle mainBundle] objectForInfoDictionaryKey:@"CFBundleShortVersionString"];
    if ([version isEqualToString:@"1.15.12"] || [version isEqualToString:@"1.15.14"] || [version isEqualToString:@"1.15.15"] || [version isEqualToString:@"1.15.16"]) {
        dispatch_after(dispatch_time(DISPATCH_TIME_NOW, (int64_t)(1 * NSEC_PER_SEC)), dispatch_get_main_queue(), ^{
            UIAlertController *alert = [UIAlertController alertControllerWithTitle:@"Artemis" message:@"You are using an unsupported version of Apollo. Please downgrade to 1.15.11" preferredStyle:UIAlertControllerStyleAlert];
            [[UIApplication sharedApplication].keyWindow.rootViewController presentViewController:alert animated:YES completion:nil];

            NSClassFromString(@"hey-ichitaso-nice-to-see-you-again");

            return;
        });
    }``` @hasty ruin

[hasty ruin]

[indigo peak]

exit(0); 💀

[pine holly]

Holy shit

😭

I gotta be the most washed dev

Nah cause I’m back tracking the fact I didn’t think abt that

Also you have to be able to check VPN status without entitlements

Ain’t no way you can’t

^there prolly isn’t a way

[indigo peak]

BOOL isVPNConnected(void) {
    NSDictionary *dict = CFBridgingRelease(CFNetworkCopySystemProxySettings());
    NSArray *keys = [dict[@"__SCOPED__"]allKeys];
    for (NSString *key in keys) {
        if ([key rangeOfString:@"tap"].location != NSNotFound ||
            [key rangeOfString:@"tun"].location != NSNotFound ||
            [key rangeOfString:@"ppp"].location != NSNotFound ||
            [key rangeOfString:@"ipsec"].location != NSNotFound) {
            return YES;
        }
    }
    return NO;
}

[pine holly]

Do it be reliable

[indigo peak]

its been for me

so

[twilit jungle]

If it works on my device its reliable

[indigo peak]

youre not wrong

it works on my device

so its reliable

[native orbit]

[primal perch]

sigma male mindset

[olive peak]

Is it possible to call functions from another app? Also this should work for hooking on jailed, however it says not to use it as its bad implement or something. https://github.com/landonf/libevil_patch

[slender glade]

try it

fuck around and find out

[slender glade]

guys

[indigo peak]

“You up?”

[primal perch]

reply “no”

https://tenor.com/view/chad-monke-gif-20835999

[primal perch]

[graceful gate]

Too chatty guy

[slender glade]

He’s a good guy he just needs to know when his ideas are too far

he’s always creating some crazy ben10 shit I respect that

but u need to create stuff that’s realistic

[primal perch]

ben10 type shit

[restive ether]

ben 10 shit

[blazing barn]

https://tenor.com/view/heatblast-gif-20280376

[timid briar]

Ben 10 goated frfr

[wind ravine]

why does it say comet not found

i have comet installed and other tweaks that use it work

[faint stag]

[[UIApplication sharedApplication] terminate] from the app itself
or [[NSThread mainThread] exit];

[indigo peak]

or just exit(0)

[primal perch]

the sigma way *(int *)0x30 = 0;

mov svc #0x80

my fav instruction

[hasty ruin]

You need to link it from rpath

[turbid fjord]

What’s the dude @? I recognise the pfp

[slender glade]

Nathan

[slender glade]

UIApplication does not have a terminate function in the standard sdk

[turbid fjord]

Oh him

GL

[faint stag]

Private method terminateWithSuccess ig

Why is it private? The world may never know

[slender glade]

fair

[faint stag]

- (void)applicationWillTerminate:(UIApplication *)application

Call this if you really care about doing it near gracefully tho

[primal perch]

apple when anything useful: ok time to make this private

[slender glade]

It’ll be called automatically

I think you can just

[UIApplication.sharedApplication performSelector: @(suspend)]

[hasty ruin]

[[UIApplication sharedApplication] performSelector:@selector(suspend)];
[NSTimer scheduledTimerWithTimeInterval:0.2 repeats:NO block:^(NSTimer *timer) {
    exit(0);
}];```

my beloved

animates to home screen

[faint stag]

Yeah suspend is real

[wind ravine]

/Users/runner/work/orion/orion/orion/Sources/Orion/Tweak.swift:80: Fatal error: Error in tweak Zamena: Failed to hook method -[UILabel setTextWithText:] (Could not hook method)
why is it failing to hook?

[hasty ruin]

because that method doesn't exist

[wind ravine]

its the same function ersatz hooks to

wait why is it setTextWithText

i did this func setText(text: String) {

[hasty ruin]

true

[hasty ruin]

however ersatz is written in a good language

[blazing warren]

cwift

[indigo peak]

schwift

[blazing warren]

taylor

[slender glade]

Bruh

setText(_ text: String)

[faint stag]

lord this is giving me java flashbacks

[slender glade]

Write some Java and come home with some JTSD

[faint stag]

i only know basic stuff there anyway so the risk of jtsd is low

[timid furnace]

Have you actually written java

[slender glade]

Yup

Why

https://github.com/airsquared/blobsaver/pull/402 cause ur ass wanna be Humpty Dumpty

There was also the 700 line mc mod I wrote

But that never saw the light of day publicly …

[faint stag]

rookie mistake, argument label funny

[slender glade]

True…

It’s easy to make w swift

Because swift function names r translated automatically to objc

The compiler inserts “with” and “and” without you knowing

[faint stag]

fast (swift) because it does things for you

[slender glade]

What?

It does

@robust radish(theName)

[faint stag]

this is literally a skill issue

[slender glade]

True…

[slender glade]

Yeah other than the fact that it literally does let u do that

It’s literally in the message that you replied to

lmfaoooo

It is?

objc(ClassName)

Ur schizophrenic

omg

if you add the name as an arg

It’ll add it

Holy fuck let me get my laptop

I have unfortuante news...

yeah shut up

Ok but u can't blame me for thinking that

shut your ass up

[native orbit]

for some things yes, most stuff it fine

[faint stag]

the name makes sense tho

[slender glade]

yeah capt is crazy

swift is not made for him

maybe he likes to hang out with the old grannies at the park too.

[brazen timber]

based

[native orbit]

yall just stuck in 2010 its ok

[slender glade]

u ^'d a message agreeing to u i'm dead

[brazen timber]

c++ bindings for the sdk when

[slender glade]

for what

libstdc++?

[brazen timber]

yes.

[slender glade]

there

it's there

[brazen timber]

WHAT

[slender glade]

u just have to enable it

[brazen timber]

😋

[slender glade]

lmao

inoperability or whatever and set it to c++/objective-c++

[brazen timber]

lfg

[native orbit]

swift c++ interop is mids af tho

the tihmstar special

[granite frigate]

i just wasted 2 hours and i still have no progress

olesome

wholesome

[native orbit]

what u doing

[granite frigate]

edit kfd to give me tfp0

i should just construct a fake task port then whatever whatever

[hasty ruin]

never expect swift to work as you think

[granite frigate]

brain fried gn

[slender glade]

You can't say this coming from the language of ub

[primal perch]

liberal is destroyed by facts and logic

[hasty ruin]

fr

[hasty ruin]

the language that powers your phone

[primal perch]

[granite frigate]

wake me up when swift ios is done

tro

[primal perch]

30 years later

[native orbit]

ios 16 be like:

[slender glade]

There's swift in SEP

[primal perch]

sad

[granite frigate]

wtf

cool

[slender glade]

yeah they bragged about it like 3 times last year

[primal perch]

no wonder it becomes incompatible every ios release

abi changes

[native orbit]

mfs that hate swift just aint good at it

[slender glade]

capt could prob write good swift

he's just a control freak

so he wants control of everything

[native orbit]

if they tried ye fr

[slender glade]

lmao

[primal perch]

she tried*

[slender glade]

I do not care about the control I lose if it means I get to write what I want faster and work in an expected manner

[faint stag]

only if that was why

[native orbit]

u know they write all their apps with arc off

[slender glade]

💀

unironically I would believe it if he said so

[native orbit]

ong

[primal perch]

object release

[faint stag]

well i mean he made zefram and he seems to love asm so

[hasty ruin]

hard

[faint stag]

checks out

[primal perch]

[slender glade]

true

[primal perch]

z*fram

[slender glade]

release and retain isn't hard it's just annoying

especially when u have cases where u fail and u need to goto to 7 lines of release

[native orbit]

inline swift asm goes crazy

[slender glade]

I wanted to introduce this last year

but why bother

[native orbit]

i needed to make it lol

[slender glade]

they were upset at the simple proposal of a language feature that allows me to ignore deprecations in a scope

I gave them like 5 good reasons and an implementation

but there was pushback

language forums in general have an unbelievable amount of bikeshedding

[native orbit]

kpp bypass in swift moment

[slender glade]

the most annoying redditor you could possibly imagine comes out of the ground to just "err.. what about this <case that's just not going to happen>", 10 like him come onto every proposal

[faint stag]

remember that fugu15 was swift and asm (for ppl bypass)

[slender glade]

[primal perch]

yeah true

ermm it doesn’t cover every corner case it’s garbage

[native orbit]

swift forums users just weird fr

[slender glade]

https://forums.swift.org/t/if-os-darwin-a-shorthand-for-checking-for-darwin-platforms/58146

What a joke

They regret all the pushback now

because if they implemented this

mfs wouldn't need to add || os(xrOS) to every #if os statement they had

[hasty ruin]

fugu15 repo

[slender glade]

but due to bikeshedding the proposal didn't get it's way and wasn't implemented, so now everyone and their mother is forking dependencies and changing every #if os in their project lmao

[primal perch]

lol

liberal destroyed with facts and logic

again

[native orbit]

most modern jailbreaks use some swift now at least

[primal perch]

yeah

[native orbit]

mf using python in fugu

wild

[hasty ruin]

(for the UI)

[faint stag]

ok, oobpci is c

[slender glade]

I have bad news for you

[native orbit]

cs jailbreaks say otherwise

[hasty ruin]

it's for the installd bug example site

[hasty ruin]

and badrecovery

and tlbfail

all the fugu15 exploits are C

[native orbit]

mfs wont add #if os(Darwin) but they gotta have #if os(PS4)

[primal perch]

fr

[slender glade]

This was the craziest part to me

You put in the effort to support ps4

but you don't think os(Darwin) is an okay

[faint stag]

ok, why in gods name would differentiating between distros be part of a programming lang

[slender glade]

I don't know man

it's just bikeshedding

some dude started talking about macho on windows in the thread being a valid triple target

that's when I just lost all hope

[faint stag]

mfer you can just cat /etc/lsb-release or check package managers

[native orbit]

mfs even added #if os(WASI) and #if os(Cygwin) 💀

[slender glade]

indeed

[slender glade]

lol

I think what they don't like is just new additions

[native orbit]

why.......

lame ass reason from them

[slender glade]

they're fine with anything ridiculous that swift has, as long as some apple employee wrote it 7 years ago

[restive ether]

barely supported

[native orbit]

fuck it, get hired by apple, change it, then dip

[slender glade]

it works and they added #if os support to it

[hasty ruin]

must get rid of those immediately

[slender glade]

but god forbid a simple proposal about #if os(Darwin) doesn't devolve into 80 reply thread with the most useless points ever

[primal perch]

that’s what annoys me about apple

[slender glade]

lmfao

[hasty ruin]

thanks discord for not sending one of my messages

[primal perch]

“we support open source”

nothing gets merged except by in house devs

[slender glade]

ikr

[native orbit]

++/-- in swift is so nice

[restive ether]

i don’t understand what the issue is with broad supporting XNU/Darwin

[slender glade]

I don't either

this was all before xrOS btw

a year

one of the guys was like "but what if a Darwin OS comes out from Apple that doesn't support a display..." or something like that

[native orbit]

.

[primal perch]

.

brain.exe has crashed

[hasty ruin]

(it never started)

[faint stag]

i can get cygwin, there's even a C macro for that one but swift

[primal perch]

hey it did

before 2020

[native orbit]

like 5 systems like that exist fr

[hasty ruin]

low resource priority?

[native orbit]

fair, but ps4 still dum af

[primal perch]

wtf

[hasty ruin]

1984

actually

[primal perch]

banned for telling people to stay safe

😭

[faint stag]

x86_64-pc-win32-macho 💀

well, it would be the mingw triple probably but still

[slender glade]

that's a quadriple

[blazing vault]

void main(void) {
 main();
}

behold the best program ever made

[gentle grove]

n

bad program

[blazing vault]

ok i fixed it

global _start

section .text
_start:
    call lol
lol:
    call lol

[gentle grove]

i dont think you can fix it

[blazing vault]

i just did

[gentle grove]

how

[blazing vault]

i rewrote it in assembly

[gentle grove]

failure

also you have to indent the global _start

and the section .text

[wind ravine]

still crashes to safe mode

[blazing vault]

int main(void) {
 void* handle;
 handle = dlopen(NULL, RTLD_LAZY);

 if (!handle) {
  fprintf(stderr, "dlopen failed: %s\n", dlerror());
  exit(EXIT_FAILURE);
 }
 void (*fptr) (void) = dlsym(handle, "main");
 if (fptr != NULL) {
  fptr();
 }
}

Ok I rewrote it

[wind ravine]

    func setText(_ text: String) {

still says cannot hook

[hasty ruin]

try using a good language i guess

[gentle grove]

skill issue

[faint stag]

give it a value to set it to

lol

[wind ravine]

default value?

[faint stag]

well yeah orig

[wind ravine]

or do u mean call orig.setText because i already do

class UILabelHook: ClassHook<UILabel> {
    func setText(_ text: String) {
        var newText = text
        if PreferenceManager.shared.prefs.isEnabled && PreferenceManager.shared.prefs.replacingStrings.count > 0 {
            for (k,v) in PreferenceManager.shared.prefs.replacingStrings {
                guard let replacing = v["NewString"] else { continue }
                newText = getReplacedString(originalString: newText, replacingString: k, replacementString: replacing)
            }
        }
        orig.setText(newText)
    }
}```

[hasty ruin]

%hook UILabel
-(void)setText:(NSString *)text {
    NSString *newText = text;
    if ([[PreferenceManager shared] prefs].isEnabled && [[[PreferenceManager shared] prefs].replacingStrings count] > 0) {
        for (NSString *key in PreferenceManager.shared.prefs.replacingStrings) {
            NSDictionary *dict = [PreferenceManager.shared.prefs.replacingStrings objectForKey:key];
            NSString *replacing = [dict objectForKey:@"NewString"];
            newText = getReplacedString(newText, key, replacing);
        }
    }
    %orig(newText);
}
%end```

[wind ravine]

i am not using obj c

[hasty ruin]

yeah thats why it's not working

[wind ravine]

can u not hook to uilabels in swift?

[faint stag]

you can

in fact, it's in the orion docs

lmao

[wind ravine]

then why setText not work

[faint stag]

did you import uikit

[wind ravine]

yes

bru

its the code inside

[hexed knot]

read orion docs

copy paste

edit as needed

[wind ravine]

i did

but uh

now my phone is frozen

it keeps turning off and back on again

[hexed knot]

this is the average orion experience

[slender glade]

Lmfaoo

[wind ravine]

im just gonna go with obj c

[slender glade]

Yeah writing a tweak in swift is a lost cause

[hexed knot]

good idea

[primal perch]

chad

[blazing vault]

Hey, what do you need help with

what UILabel would you like to hook?

Because I'm just going to take a guess here and guessing you're not going to hook every UILabel lol

[hasty ruin]

yes

he wants to hook all of them

[blazing vault]

%hook NSObject
-(instancetype)init {
 return NULL;
}
%end

/s

(don't compile this please)

[slender glade]

Thanks for the /s I was actually gonna run it 👍

[wind ravine]

it hooks

if i copy and paste the code from orion

[wind ravine]

for some reason my code crashes to safe mode

[slender glade]

I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say

Looking up a dictionary in every single setText call

is an incredibly bad idea for performance

ur iPhone is gonna be running like a Nintendo switch

Especially in a for loop too Jesus

[wind ravine]

probably true

then what else do i do

[slender glade]

Don’t

In seriousness tho

cache those preferences variables

[faint stag]

that's true, though ersatz doesn't really affect performance so i guess it could be worse

[hexed knot]

no, do compile it

[primal perch]

lmao

[wind ravine]

idk how

[primal perch]

use a static

[blazing vault]

use a %ctor

[slender glade]

Yeah like shep said

[primal perch]

use anything but querying a dictionary every cal

[slender glade]

And change the static var when the pref changes

He’s true you know

[blazing vault]

That's prob a better idea lol

[primal perch]

fr

[hexed knot]

@wind ravine why are you going through a dict everytime for

[slender glade]

Also cache NewString

[primal perch]

people say globals are bad but when the choice is that or globals

use globals

[wind ravine]

idk what that is

[primal perch]

a constructor

[hexed knot]

who gave u dev role

[slender glade]

I’m dead

[hexed knot]

this is like the 3rd time ive said that to you

[primal perch]

mod init funcs

[wind ravine]

o

[blazing vault]

Well you should probably do what shep does instead

But basically you put code in a constructor that you want to run before the program loads into memory

[faint stag]

ok maybe you should just clone ersatz completely
the first thing it does is cache the dictionary

[primal perch]

to be pedantic it’s before main executes

[wind ravine]

im just gonna quit this

[primal perch]

nah

don’t quit

[blazing vault]

I'll help you if you want

[wind ravine]

BRUH

I RENAMED THE FOLDER BUT IT STILL OVERWROTE MY SWIFT

[faint stag]

huh

[slender glade]

@wind ravine let me put it this way

imagine if the program starting is when you put the key and do vroom vroom

but before u do that

u need to put ur foot in

ctor is basically when u put ur foot in

then u can do vroom vroom

🏎

And start the car with the key

[primal perch]

yeah true

[hexed knot]

%init

[slender glade]

I mean

[hexed knot]

no im just writing

[primal perch]

constructors are designed to let libraries initialize data for use in the app

[hexed knot]

not contributing

[primal perch]

it just happens that it’s convenient to overwrite code then

before it’s used

[slender glade]

He’s true you know

[hexed knot]

joehooker

[primal perch]

joehooker

[wind ravine]

i got it when u said init

[primal perch]

[slender glade]

U just said the same word twice

[wind ravine]

true

[hexed knot]

free djt

[slender glade]

can I pin this

[hexed knot]

no

[slender glade]

fuck u

[wind ravine]

how do u %ctor in swift

[slender glade]

U can’t

[wind ravine]

[hexed knot]

you cant ctor with orion?

[slender glade]

I think there’s a header somewhere

That has attribute constructor

and it’s just Orion init

Look for it

It’s in ur project

[wind ravine]

my project is gone

[slender glade]

.

[wind ravine]

i moved to trash

[slender glade]

move it out of there bruh

[wind ravine]

it got corrupted

[slender glade]

.

#development has fallen

write the tweak in objc man

Just don’t sell it

[wind ravine]

because i accidentally wrote objc new on top of it

[slender glade]

.

[wind ravine]

obj c suck

[slender glade]

No it’s the most painless option for tweaks

Orion is just not ready man

[wind ravine]

sourcelocation uses it though

[timid furnace]

ok and

[hexed knot]

i dont think thats a very good reason to use orion

[hasty ruin]

swift is not a dynamic language

[wind ravine]

how to write it in base c

[hasty ruin]

objc api

[timid furnace]

lmao source got banned

[slender glade]

I just thought it was too funny

[wind ravine]

wait why source banned

[hexed knot]

shut up capt

[slender glade]

Ok look bro

I love swift

[hasty ruin]

for using swift

[slender glade]

But it’s just not meant for this

[wind ravine]

[timid furnace]

objc lets you fuck around more, which is very helpful for tweaks

[hexed knot]

for being not the brightest

[hasty ruin]

shit why is capt here then

jk capt love you x

[wind ravine]

why is apple use obj c and not a good language like python

[hexed knot]

capt hits the bare minimum

[native orbit]

[slender glade]

Let me not say smth…

[cloud yacht]

I don't like swift cause I tried hooking it once and it didn't like that

[wind ravine]

[hexed knot]

springboard should be swift

[slender glade]

Lmfao

[hasty ruin]

ios 16:

[slender glade]

PosterBoard uses swift

[wind ravine]

ios 16 moment

[primal perch]

swift sure

[hexed knot]

is ios 16 springboard swift fr

[primal perch]

swiftui god no

[native orbit]

swiftui

[slender glade]

It does have swift in it yeah

Also like

[hexed knot]

damn fr

thats crazy

[slender glade]

Home Screen Widgets have to be interacted with swift

Like

HAVE

They’re SwiftUI views

[wind ravine]

L

[hasty ruin]

ios 16 brings swiftui to core OS components

also ios 16:

[wind ravine]

wait can i say that

[hasty ruin]

yeah

this is #development

[timid furnace]

[hexed knot]

no

youll be getting banned soon now

[slender glade]

U make it sound like SB is kernel level

Lmfao

[timid furnace]

on my way to put swift in my kext

it would unironically be nicer than kernel c++

[slender glade]

igg lol

[timid furnace]

😭

[wind ravine]

thats what im sayin

[native orbit]

my amfid payload is part swift

[timid furnace]

do you even write kexts dawg

[slender glade]

You haven’t made a kext before

😭

[timid furnace]

i love c++ with 0.1% of the stdlib!!!!!

[slender glade]

I’m dead

[slender glade]

Kext with Foundation

[hasty ruin]

that's just ugly C

[slender glade]

C++‘s issue is it has a identity crisis

[timid furnace]

C except you get to roll your own stdlib shit

[native orbit]

pongo modules with no libraries at all

[timid furnace]

evector go brr

oh and no exceptions

[hexed knot]

i hate objc++ more than anything

more than swiftui

[wind ravine]

dont need to

[native orbit]

bold statement

[timid furnace]

want to make constructors? get fucked, they have to be static methods (factories)

[wind ravine]

im too cool for making kexts i use swift like the good boy apple wants me to be

[slender glade]

half of its users try to be as “c++ style” as possible and use everything from the c++ stdlib and despise the normal libc functions, but the other half of c++ users are just people who use it as c with classes or just c with OOP

[timid furnace]

objc++?

[slender glade]

No just C++ in general

[timid furnace]

oh

[wind ravine]

objc#

[timid furnace]

misread

[slender glade]

Lmao

[timid furnace]

you should use C++ when you need polymorphism or stuff in the stdlib

imo

[wind ravine]

my battery has been 800x better after uninstalling snowboard

[slender glade]

I don’t think using c++ bc something is in libstdc++ is a good reason

What u want is most likely somewhere on SO

[hasty ruin]

objholyc

[slender glade]

I think it has a clear use but lots just use it for the sake of

[hexed knot]

use ur head and make the shit in c

[native orbit]

objpython

[timid furnace]

dynamic arrays

[hasty ruin]

icrazethemer on top

@timid furnace can confirm

[slender glade]

Valid

[hasty ruin]

i think he used it

[slender glade]

I think the “is in libstdc++” reason is valid ONLY if the original shit is in c

[slender glade]

Otherwise it’s okay

[timid furnace]

oh

i remember where this is from

i didn't use it though

man i don't have a dopamine device anymore

[native orbit]

tragic

u update?

[timid furnace]

nah

bought it for family

[native orbit]

ah

[timid furnace]

gave it to them during vacation

i have to icloud reset it, they forgot to give it to me to reset

[native orbit]

[timid furnace]

slight problem: it has no internet connection

this is gonna be fun

[native orbit]

bro..

[timid furnace]

will iphones connect to wifi bfu

[vivid dew]

[slender glade]

No

[hasty ruin]

omg

[timid furnace]

even mdm?

[slender glade]

That idk

[native orbit]

no

[timid furnace]

fuck

but ethernet works

[native orbit]

this is tru

[timid furnace]

if restricted mode isn't on

oh well

[hasty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-memes-memes2022funny-meme-face-punch-gif-25436787

[timid furnace]

i'll give them the passcode

[cloud yacht]

I think Bluetooth Internet works

[timid furnace]

yea but it's locked

so i'll have to give them the passcode either way'

[native orbit]

simcard swap?

[cloud yacht]

Can't you just remove it from iCloud settings and have them reset it using iTunes

[timid furnace]

the likelihood that they have itunes installed is low

[slender glade]

@restive ether

[restive ether]

lolol

[timid furnace]

possible

[restive ether]

ok that’s funny

[slender glade]

Ikr

[vivid dew]

[slender glade]

I think the quality of ur code reflects u as a person

like tihmstar for example

[timid furnace]

probably the best option

i'll tell them

[native orbit]

tihmstar downfall era

[hasty ruin]

god imagine what sgwc is like

[vivid dew]

i love c++

[timid furnace]

thx

[native orbit]

ive done it before, easiest method fr

[timid furnace]

public code or private code

[slender glade]

Public code that everyone cleans up 6 years later

[native orbit]

public code:
private code:

those private gh repos down awful

[hasty ruin]

private (released) exploits are dumb

[slender glade]

Speaking of down awful

[hasty ruin]

• let apple patch it

• dont let other people use it

[slender glade]

I don’t think I’ve read a more insane sentence in my life

[native orbit]

💀

[native orbit]

i cant think of any

[hasty ruin]

unc0ver 14.8

[slender glade]

I think some companies just don’t let you release them at all

[native orbit]

what did that use?

[slender glade]

Oh I thought u meant like those pangu bragging

[hasty ruin]

pattern_f

[native orbit]

o

[hasty ruin]

forgot the exploit name

[hasty ruin]

nah i mean released exploits

just closed source

[slender glade]

Oh

[native orbit]

that is kinda wack

[hasty ruin]

and u0 didnt even allow it for all supported devices

only the iphones

[slender glade]

The whole jbs being closed source thing i still dislike

[hasty ruin]

fr

[restive ether]

what do you mean you don’t like proprietary hacks on your system

[native orbit]

u0 dark made bro go private

[hasty ruin]

apple's gonna see what you're doing anyway

[slender glade]

Like yeah you’re not obligated to make anything open source

But like

You’re not gonna be a jb dev forever

You’re eventually gonna leave

[native orbit]

big ups to qwerty for helping push the oss jb movement

[slender glade]

open source it and let people benefit from it a year or two or even 5 down the line

[native orbit]

still waiting for checkra1n src

[restive ether]

checkra1n is open sourcing in 2021

[native orbit]

along with windows support

[visual meadow]

i never mentioned kfd though

[slender glade]

That’s the part that caught ur attention?

[visual meadow]

and the rest
but i have another dumb idea now

[slender glade]

Listen Nathan

[restive ether]

at least you’re honest

[slender glade]

tomorrow is a weekend

[hasty ruin]

no

tomorrow is a saturday

[slender glade]

Yeah that’s weekend

[shrewd smelt]

[plain python]

more like, code that gets scrapped or removed from Taurine within weeks, if not 1-2 months

tihmstar literally complained at the conferences we went to and was like "coolstar keeps rewriting all the code that I contribute for some reason"

me: "yeah because it crashes and is unmaintainable with 5000+ dependencies"

[slender glade]

for some reason

[slender glade]

Nah I’m chilling with libgeneral libfile libprintf libopen

[plain python]

even funnier when he was like "swift is so annoying I don't want to write it"

I'm like bruh your code crashes with std::libgeneral::libassert::assert::error::debug()

[slender glade]

His cpp is like 10x harder to maintain

[slender glade]

Im dead that’s literally the message printed too

It’ll be like

exception of type tihmstar::exception

like what did I gain

what did I understand

[naive kraken]

coolstar: c++ is so annoying I don't want to write it
tihmstar: swift is so annoying I don't want to write it

me: c++ and swift are so annoying I don't want to write them

[slender glade]

Nothing

[slender glade]

Centrist

[plain python]

meanwhile I intentionally scrapped the entire Sileo 1.0 Objective-C codebase over the course of a year to turn it into Swift

[slender glade]

Objective-C era sileo wow

What a flashback

That’s like

5 years ago now

[plain python]

Taurine alpha's be kernel panicing because launchd got a tihmstar::exception

[slender glade]

As of this this month

[slender glade]

Lmfaoo

[plain python]

you can see even where tihmstar's code is there, I refused to include all of libgeneral and shortened + modified it https://github.com/Odyssey-Team/Taurine/blob/main/Taurine/exploit/common/libgeneral_exception.cpp

[slender glade]

Every one of his exceptions feel cryptic because his messages are just bad

He doesn’t say what’s wrong or what exactly failed

70% of the time it’s just

y failed (you don’t know what y is) and if you don’t have the source code and just running the binary it’s annoying

[native orbit]

user error msgs suck to

[slender glade]

Like with literally any futurerestore error

They suck to write but you can make them descriptive

[plain python]

this is why fatalError is way better

[slender glade]

prepare_init failed with 32 what the fuck does this mean

What does 32 mean for me

[plain python]

though even then I don't think I use fatalError much

[slender glade]

Neither do I

I think it’s just

Kinda unfortunate that a lot of his software is useful but it’s tied down to code that’s difficult to maintain over the years

useful not usable lol

[native orbit]

and the 48299 dependencies it needs

[plain python]

yeah I only ever use fatalError where it's obviously a misuse of the API

[slender glade]

‼️

[slender glade]

I don’t think I’ve ever met someone who wasn’t annoyed by this

[plain python]

otherwise I try to handle errors properly

[slender glade]

Same

[plain python]

tbh my code tended to get stolen too much because of how easy it was to build

[slender glade]

I think where we went wrong is when error messages are just x/y failed rather than telling the user what failed, the possible reason, and what the user could at least try

[plain python]

I think I only ever once made an app purposely shit with 9000 dependencies

[native orbit]

it's annoying mainly because they are just other deps he created, even for the smallest things which could just be baked in

[faint timber]

the main culprit is iBoot32Patcher(xpwn)

[slender glade]

x/y failed is fine in ur debut builds but don’t let that shit get to prod

[blazing vault]

Thankfully I don't have this problem because no one wants to steal my code in the first place

[plain python]

SemiRestore for Mac, if you ever remembered it

[native orbit]

like [redacted] jb developer

[plain python]

the Windows and Linux versions didn't have that issue and were way better

lmao

[slender glade]

I’m going to kms if I need to compile xpwn again

[slender glade]

[faint timber]

That’s why I provided a dep bundle for everyone

[plain python]

oh no I intentionally made the Mac version of SemiRestore shit back then

[faint timber]

I’ve broken so many licenses

[slender glade]

So no one steals the code?

[slender glade]

Lmao

I think for c projects it’s just better to put in the code of ur deps

[faint timber]

I host like 10 .a files and 200 headers

[slender glade]

if ur not gonna use a proper build system

[plain python]

like forced users to install brew, GTK, libimobiledevice, Xorg, Vala, and FakeSMC

[faint timber]

Imo the way to go is vcpkg/cmake

[slender glade]

Xorg ??? Lmfao

[plain python]

(yes SemiRestore for Mac required FakeSMC just as a "fuck you")

[slender glade]

true

[plain python]

yes because I just straight ported the Linux version to mac

it was not Cocoa

[faint timber]

Lmao

[plain python]

it was a GTK / Xorg app

[slender glade]

[native orbit]

cmake good when its done correctly

[slender glade]

Ic

[slender glade]

Unfortunately almost never

[native orbit]

fr

[plain python]

nah it was closed source

[slender glade]

cmake errors suck

[slender glade]

Oh

[plain python]

mostly because at the time my hackintosh ran like shit

and the mac users were annoying af about wanting a mac port

so I was like "fuck you, here you go"

[slender glade]

Why is it that the people who make stuff in this community have awful hardware

[plain python]

because jailbreak users stingy

[faint timber]

my hackintosh ran like Shit, I replaced the cpu now it runs fine? was Apple throttling me?

[plain python]

that's why the jailbreak devs are poor and underfunded

[slender glade]

And the mfs on twitter who install the most pointless tweaks just have the most up to date phone ever year it’s insane

[slender glade]

fr

[slender glade]

[plain python]

jailbreak devs: are underfunded

jailbreak users: "why does no one work on jailbreaks anymore"

[native orbit]

u gotta get ur money from something else, jb devs can't make shit nowadays

[slender glade]

I’m on an 8 where the battery ends in 40 minutes dawg 💔

[faint timber]

Bro how the fuck we gonna live in California on a jb dev salary

[plain python]

you don't

[slender glade]

jb dev salary LMFAOOOO

[native orbit]

on skidrow bro

[faint timber]

Yah there ain’t a salary to begin with

[slender glade]

fr

[plain python]

jailbreak users: "why doesn't coolstar get a job so she can get test devices"

also jailbreak users: "why did coolstar leave for chromebook work over jailbreaking"

[native orbit]

tweaks devs can atleast have somewhat of a side hustle

[native orbit]

the duality of jb users is insane

[plain python]

me selling a Thunderbolt driver for $20 meanwhile

[native orbit]

make a "quit all" tweak and sell it for $3.99

[slender glade]

I saw multiple paid quit all tweaks back in the day

[plain python]

(though this example is special because of the Thunderbolt surcharge I'm passing on to users)

[slender glade]

Absolutely astounding that that was even acceptable

[native orbit]

this is big brain, cuz no one else making them

[plain python]

and yes there are chromebooks with Thunderbolt ports

[native orbit]

lot of chromebooks lowkey very capable hardware

[plain python]

thunderbolt chromebook be like

[native orbit]

framework?

[plain python]

yes

[native orbit]

yep i zoomed in

chromebook gaming is insane

[plain python]

the framework chromebook is my primary laptop now

it's just so good

[slender glade]

@faint timber why is it called healthd if it’s a cancer for your battery? Are they stupid?

[native orbit]

they upgradable the like windows counterpart?

[plain python]

yes

[native orbit]

or just repairable

massive W

[plain python]

I upgraded mine to 32 GB RAM and 1 TB 980 Pro SSD

and it has Core i5-1240P

[faint timber]

Did they ever release a new cchrombook with hackintosh capabilities

[plain python]

some people have hackintoshes running on the newer 6th - 10th gen chromebooks

[native orbit]

anything past 10th gen is kinda a rip

[plain python]

though no audio

since I don't know if I could get away with selling hackintosh drivers

[faint timber]

Would make people salty

[plain python]

so didn't bother looking into macOS audio stuff until I figure out whether it can be commercially viable

[plain python]

well I sell the Windows drivers

[native orbit]

hackintosh drivers different, they are expected to be oss

[faint timber]

Windows is usually anything goes(except for video games)

[plain python]

well that and Apple has sued commercial hackintoshers before

so chromebook hackintosh audio will probably never happen

just not commercially viable

[native orbit]

seems like such a niche group anyways

windows on chromebooks makes more sense

[plain python]

11th gen and up are RIP for hackintosh anyways

6th - 8th gen chromebooks have soldered eMMC

[cloud yacht]

How's the battery on the framework chromebook

[faint timber]

Android on chrome books made more sense, but look how many years it took them to get good app support

[plain python]

so for an actually good chromebook hackintosh, that only leaves 4th, 5th, and 10th gen

[native orbit]

not the emmc

[plain python]

speaking of which

Intel N100 is such a surprisingly good CPU

(Alder Lake-N)

since it's basically Alder Lake w/ only E cores

I'm curious how Meteor Lake is gonna be

[native orbit]

the tdp on the n100 is wild to

[plain python]

oh yeah my N100 machine only consumes 2.5W when playing youtube

and that's 2.5W for the entire machine

which includes the wifi chip, rest of the mainboard, screen, etc.

it also gets 30 FPS steady on Honkai Star Rail low settings

[native orbit]

battery life gotta be god tier

[plain python]

yeah

even my higher end chromebooks lasted the entire flight to/from korea no problem, and those have higher TDP chips

this one will probably not even break a sweat with the battery on a flight

(lowkey once the iPad Pro A12Z loses support I'm probably not buying another iPad)

[timid furnace]

EmeraldSDHC

[plain python]

since I already leave the iPad at home when I go out lol

chromebook goes with me instead

besides chrome logo is best theft deterrant

[native orbit]

i never use my ipad anymore lmao

[native orbit]

so true

[plain python]

thief: "oh this has a chrome logo, yeah no"

[faint timber]

When I’m not at home with my overkill hackintosh I have to use the shitty t1 MacBook Pro

Died in 30 minutes

2016 was a rushed year for macs

[plain python]

sneezes on butterfly keyboard

the keyboard: "ye I cnnn stillll tyyypeeeeee normlllly"

[faint timber]

It clicks from underneath

[visual meadow]

Anyone know where health database is on ios 16

[hasty ruin]

based

[visual meadow]

it was moved from /private/var/mobile/Library/Health

idk where to tho

In ios 15+

[visual meadow]

atleast I think????

[visual meadow]

Nevermind

I fixed it

@slender glade i had to fucking

use kfd to delete those files

A lot of issues in the apple watch app are fixed now lol

and emergency sos in settings works now

[lyric loom]

fuck palera1n

[brazen timber]

fuck palera1n

[primal perch]

fuck palera1n

[native dune]

fuck palera1n

[pine holly]

fuck palera1n

[hasty marsh]

fuck palera1n

[night rover]

fuck palera1n

[lime pivot]

fuck palera1n

[torn oriole]

fuck palera1n

[primal perch]

fuck palera1n

[crisp frost]

fuck palera1n

[shell sphinx]

fuck palera1n

[wheat grotto]

fuck palera1n

[olive peak]

Hi what do i need to do to make my tweak rootless supported?

[proud ravine]

What’s wrong with palera1n?

[faint stag]

https://theos.dev/docs/rootless

[slender glade]

[lyric loom]

fuck palera1n

[lyric loom]

jb is fine the community is not

[elder scaffold]

it's a little better now

[slender glade]

Neither is fine

[lyric loom]

they think i defended transphobia

[granite frigate]

how do I find allproc offset in my kcache? i need to walk through my linked list to find my own proc kaddr

[steady nest]

check how dimentio does it

or kfd fork from opa

[granite frigate]

opa fork uses kernproc which is found using patchfinder (which doesn't work on ios 12) instead of allproc

ok i will look at dimentio

[steady nest]

doesn’t matter if you have kernproc or allproc, end result is the same

one you do +0x8 the other 0x10

[granite frigate]

yh

ohh ok

i tried to see how dimentio finds kernproc but i'm too stupid :kekw:

[steady nest]

skill issue

[granite frigate]

yeah

😭

[native orbit]

patchfinder64.c is ur friend

[thorn ether]

Can anyone help guide me what I gotta change to compile this for rootless?

[native orbit]

THEOS_PACKAGE_SCHEME = rootless

[next wadi]

since when did you start hating palera1n

[faint stag]

well yeah but there's probably stuff to change in the tweak too

[hexed knot]

Surround file paths with ROOT_PATH_NS() in your tweak and this and thats it

[faint stag]

yeah had no idea that one was a thing

[slender glade]

Man wtf is that name

[slender glade]

I thought they’re talking about jb as a whole

Kysota

I thought the filter would catch it tbh

[faint stag]

it's not a wildcard filter iirc

unlike other things

[sacred orbit]

lol

[slender glade]

Haxi you need to be better at picking names

[sacred orbit]

ill try to

[granite frigate]

hahahhaa

[faint stag]

i would've went with windbreaker but that's a name for a better project

[next wadi]

DAMN

[sacred orbit]

renaming to windbreaker rn

[hexed knot]

i think its a good name

[granite frigate]

ok my next project, an ota killer, will be called sweater

[slender glade]

Yeah. Okay. Whatever. That’s cool dude. Okay

[shrewd smelt]

trolled

[topaz yew]

mfw apple

[severe ridge]

(_:)

no wonder why the headphone jack got removed

it's apple being apple

[hexed knot]

what

[severe ridge]

at least the headphone jack got a replacement
that replacement being the goofy ass dongle

"hey bro may i borrow your DONGLE?"

[hexed knot]

what are you saying

[severe ridge]

apple deprecating stuff

[native dune]

can I borrow your dongle

[zenith hatch]

can I borrow your dongle

[brazen timber]

can I borrow your dongle

[primal perch]

can I borrow your dongle

[shrewd smelt]

can I borrow your dongle

[graceful gate]

can I borrow your dongle

[gaunt helm]

can I borrow your dongle

[indigo peak]

heyy

[faint timber]

this is a virus

[indigo peak]

aw shucks

do you have a non virus 😄😄

[primal perch]

ida 7.7

[faint timber]

I don't have such things

[indigo peak]

windows or mac

[primal perch]

only windows goes up that high

as mentioned when u first got the windows one here a week ago iirc ur options are some boof ass 7.0 version with rosetta or home

[faint timber]

https://tenor.com/view/stage-five-clinger-wedding-crashers-clingy-relationships-crazy-lady-gif-9785379

[primal perch]

if ur serious about *OS RE ida home is by far the best value

for a hobbyist

[faint timber]

absolutely not

become a full time student, purchase binja student

[primal perch]

i ahve binja student and its good but hexrays destroys it

in decomp output

[faint timber]

nope

[primal perch]

[faint timber]

use graph hlil you absolute idiot

you have one job

[primal perch]

ok bro

most sane cryptic discussion

[faint timber]

you'd be suprised the stuff I've done with binja

way faster understanding than ida

[primal perch]

you clearly havent used newer hexrays versions

[graceful gate]

So which tool gonna give me best decompiled code

[faint timber]

I'll agree with that one but I still don't see someone reversing ollvm in ida

[graceful gate]

I have money but I can’t still buy IDA Pro lol, they suck

[faint timber]

I'd never give them money

I'd list the things I've done but I only brag to my friends which people in this channel aren't my friends(yet)

[primal perch]

🤓

[brazen timber]

no def not

it's $365/yr for idapython

everything else is in already in free