development

[indigo peak]

using the method WDBRemoveThreeAppLimit uses

no

im trying to overwrite the binary

but saying that outloud

makes me realize

no

since it would fuck with code signature

right

i mean, all it does is find the symbol for the method and point it to a func that always returns true

so how could i figure out the ASLR slide

its defined in the app

not in a lib

main

[timid furnace]

@indigo peak you're trying to force an objc method to return true?

[indigo peak]

yes

[timid furnace]

mf they have no way to inject code

it's time

ok uh

this is with MDC right

[indigo peak]

correct

[timid furnace]

ok
high level overview

• iterate over objc classes, find the metaclass or the class that you're looking for
• get its method list
• figure out whether it's absolute or relative (probably relative)
• copy method list to empty space in a r/w segment
• replace imp on the method you want to hijack with the address of the return true function (this is where absolute/relative comes into play)
• change the objc class/metaclass's method list pointer to point to your new method list
• profit

[indigo peak]

i mean, shouldnt it just be the same as the installd shit

bc its iterating objc functions

and copying that shit and whatever

[timid furnace]

sure

but zhuowei's installd code makes certain assumptions

for example that objc_classname or whatever the fuck the segment is called is the first instance of the name of whatever class you are looking for

also i think it assumes relative

[tepid olive]

use sideloadly to inject the tweak into the ipa

[indigo peak]

but his code is finding the class

like it finds an offset

[timid furnace]

no, his code is finding the first instance of the class name, then looking for where the offset of that is used

[indigo peak]

o

[timid furnace]

if the first instance of class "XYZ" is not in __objc_classname or whatever, it's going to look for the wrong offset

i'm writing my own patcher that doesn't make these assumptions but like

holy shit

it is annoying

[indigo peak]

i can imagine

i was thinking ab doing that

like when/if i get this working

but the class im looking for IS in __objc_classname

but thats only the first segment tho

right

instance*

[timid furnace]

how the fuck would i know you've been mum about this app

[indigo peak]

what if i do a check to check the segment, and if its not the right segment skip and continue

yk what i mean

its for piracy reasons

[timid furnace]

L

[indigo peak]

how would i determine the segment an offset is in

is that even possible

[timid furnace]

parse the load commands

[indigo peak]

true

[tepid olive]

bruh skill issue

[timid furnace]

what were you trying to do

[indigo peak]

why does this not work

void print_segment_names(const char* _Nonnull binary_path) {
    FILE* fp = fopen(binary_path, "r");
    if (!fp) {
        printf("Error: Failed to open file\n");
        return;
    }
    
    struct mach_header_64 mh;
    fread(&mh, sizeof(struct mach_header_64), 1, fp);
    
    uint32_t ncmds = mh.ncmds;
    struct load_command lc;
    
    for (uint32_t i = 0; i < ncmds; i++) {
        fread(&lc, sizeof(struct load_command), 1, fp);
        // NSLog(@"[test] %d", lc.cmd);
        if (lc.cmd == LC_SEGMENT_64) {
            struct segment_command_64 seg_cmd;
            fread(&seg_cmd, sizeof(struct segment_command_64), 1, fp);
            NSLog(@"[test] Segment Name: %s\n", seg_cmd.segname);
        }
        // else {
        fseek(fp, lc.cmdsize - sizeof(struct load_command), SEEK_CUR);
        // }
    }
    
    fclose(fp);
}

only log: Segment Name: RO

[timid furnace]

don't load commands have variable size

does fread move the pointer

[indigo peak]

yes

i think

[timid furnace]

ok well you need to move it back before you read the segment command

[indigo peak]

nvm

i got it

dubs

@timid furnace so, idk if im thinking of this right
would i compare the class offset into seg_cmd->fileoff

and like if the offset is greater than the fileoff

its not in that seg

[timid furnace]

that's segments now do sections

[indigo peak]

or would i do

seg->vmaddr to seg->vmaddr + seg->vmsize

[timid furnace]

well you need to be looking at sections

file -> segments -> sections

[indigo peak]

like

if (offset >= seg->fileoff && offset < seg->fileoff + seg->filesize} {
  // proceed w narrowing down to sections
}

[primal perch]

unsafe

rust needed

[timid furnace]

again

well

i see what you mean

but use fileoff and filesize

[indigo peak]

so the edit i just made

[timid furnace]

sure

[indigo peak]

void print_segment_names(const char* _Nonnull binary_path) {
    uint64_t offset = 0xBB79B0;
    int fd = open(binary_path, O_RDONLY | O_CLOEXEC);
    if (fd == -1) {
        NSLog(@"[test] Error opening file: %s", strerror(errno));
        return;
    }

    off_t len = lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_END);
    lseek(fd, 0, SEEK_SET);
    void* map = mmap(nil, len, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0);

    struct mach_header_64* header = map;
    struct load_command* load_command = map + sizeof(struct mach_header_64);
    for (int i = 0; i < header->ncmds; i++) {
        switch (load_command->cmd) {
            case LC_SEGMENT_64: {
                struct segment_command_64* segment = (struct segment_command_64*)load_command;
                if (strcmp(segment->segname, "__DATA_CONST") == 0) {
                    if (offset >= segment->fileoff && offset < segment->fileoff + segment->filesize) {
                        uint32_t nsects = segment->nsects;
                        struct section_64 sect;
                        for (uint32_t j = 0; j < nsects; j++) {
                            // fread(&sect, sizeof(struct section_64), 1, f);
                            memcpy(&sect, ((void *)segment) + sizeof(struct segment_command_64) + j * sizeof(struct section_64), sizeof(struct section_64));
                            // check if offset is in this section
                            if (offset >= sect.offset && offset < sect.offset + sect.size) {
                                NSLog(@"[test] Found section: %s", sect.sectname);
                                break;
                            }
                        }
                    }
                }
                // break;
            }
            load_command = ((void *)load_command) + load_command->cmdsize;
        }
    }
}

bro

what did i write

i have 0 idea if/how this works LOL

idek if that offset is right

[gentle grove]

C

[gentle grove]

i think you wrote a print_segment_names

[indigo peak]

@timid furnace so if my function is working: its says it finds the offset in the section __cfstring

[timid furnace]

then you fucked up because the class name has to be in objc_classname or whatever it is

i wrote down the exact section name somewhere

In __TEXT,__objc_classname

[indigo peak]

im finding it in
__DATA_CONST,__cfstring

wtf

[next wadi]

luz fire

[indigo peak]

wait how can it be in __TEXT if we cant write there

[timid furnace]

scroll up and read what i said

[shell sphinx]

hi, im trying to learn objc. im following the learn objective c in 24 days guide but the example hello world code from the first lesson doesn't work. am i doing something wrong or is the guide just outdated?

chatgpt came up with ```int main(int argc, const char * argv[]) {
@autoreleasepool {
// your code here
NSLog(@"Hello, World!");
}
return 0;
}

[timid furnace]

yea use autoreleasepool

https://developer.apple.com/library/archive/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/MemoryMgmt/Articles/mmAutoreleasePools.html

[blazing vault]

no way lost objc

[shell sphinx]

real

[cosmic lantern]

uhhh is there a reason why runtimebrowser might not start? like it seems to open for a tiny bit. doesn't load and crashes to home screen
also happens with classdump-dyld, that one just gets killed

nvm, autosign helped

[steep granite]

CLICK HERE to LEARN OBCJ FAST! This Guide will make you CODE in 24 days!

[elfin moth]

привет

[hasty ruin]

hello

[nocturne fjord]

Здарова

[next wadi]

goodbye

[hasty ruin]

finally

[next wadi]

bru

[primal perch]

@here

[blazing vault]

so true

[next wadi]

STFU

true

[steady nest]

chatgpt

[hasty ruin]

????

[upbeat wyvern]

Nah I already have too many messaging apps

[lime pivot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688121419980341282/1064902309315887114/so_true.mp4

[lime pivot]

considering how long ago he asked, maybe you do need fewer social apps

haven't seen you around in a bit, hope you've been well

[upbeat wyvern]

Been a bit busy but yeah not doing bad

You?

I’ve been trying to track down a dumb heisenbug in usbfluxd the last couple days

Just checked, that was only 4 days… I just restarted a service that hung from running for over 3 years and must have been leaking a filehandle per month or something… 4 days doesn’t seem long :p

[pearl sail]

It might be a personal best

[lime pivot]

been weird but yeah alright otherwise

[faint timber]

Ventura killed x86 substitute

[tepid olive]

don’t use substitute then

[graceful gate]

Does ElleKit support iOS simulator? 😮

[native dune]

begula

[tender vapor]

anyone knows if there is a version of lldb for ios that supports python scripting?

[coral gazelle]

Does anyone know if it's possible to manually make a TSS request for an OTA blob for an iOS version that is only signed through delayed OTA (ex. 16.1.1)?

[round forum]

who good at leetcode here

[hasty ruin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933428639620542474/1067152949211574332/caption.gif

[sonic sail]

I recently installed kernbypass ~0.5 and A-bypass, one of whose /Library/LaunchDaemon's now cause iOS to panic and bootloop only upon jailbreaking. Since I can't get a USB shell to uninstall them, I want to recompile checkra1n to unlink() the files from the APFS filesystem before launchd starts the offending launch daemon. The example checkra1n module doesn't look like it's executing at a stage where I'll have access to the filesystem available. Ideas (besides restoring)? Also tried disabling substrate (via vol. up at boot), but as this is a global launch daemon, no such luck.

Since I have an iPhone 7, I suppose one option is to literally boot linux and then mount the filesystem from there, but that sounds like a pain.

[coral gazelle]

Wait, you can run Linux on the iPhone 7?!

[sonic sail]

yeah

not really new but in particular these exist:
https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/kux9xx
https://old.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/kvmsfd

from here I could go -> https://github.com/sgan81/apfs-fuse but I'm not sure about the SEC.

[coral gazelle]

What's the SEC?

[sonic sail]

secure enclave

[coral gazelle]

That's what I thought

[timid furnace]

it's probably easier to just restore rootfs

[sonic sail]

I'm on ~14.8 with checkra1n, so not an option afaik

[coral gazelle]

Does anyone know how iOS's over-the-air update process works (i.e. what actions it performs when booted into the update ramdisk and in what order)?

I assume it's similar to the standard restore process

[sonic sail]

Won't that wipe out all tweaks, not just root fs changes?

[timid furnace]

tweaks are installed on the rootfs

[sonic sail]

I'm especially trying to avoid losing my installed tweaks, it's a hassle to find everything all over again.

Otherwise I'd just restore to iOS 15 and switch to palera1n.

[timid furnace]

where did you get kernbypass from

[gentle grove]

how tf does anti aliasing work, is it some filter I can apply with a 1-bit bitmap or do I need more info somehow to do it

when I google it, all of it is how to do it in games in c#

[timid furnace]

you can't antialias without colors

[gentle grove]

with windows libs

[gentle grove]

with grayscale

Im making a 1-bit bitmap drawing and want to antialias it

[timid furnace]

grayscale or pure black and white?

[vivid dew]

you can just apply a 0.5px blur

[gentle grove]

the shape I'm making right now is black and white but I can draw to grayscale or coloe

[sonic sail]

One of these first few repos had ~0.5 which was > 0.3
https://old.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/wiki/ios/appstore

[gentle grove]

Hmmm

that sounds good

[vivid dew]

[gentle grove]

it literally though

I will actually try that

[timid furnace]

ok well neither kernbypass nor a-bypass have LaunchDaemons

so boot with safe mode ticked in checkra1n and see if you can get out

[sonic sail]

[timid furnace]

otherwise, it is probably going to take less time to reinstall your tweaks than deal with custom ramdisk and all that fun stuff

[sonic sail]

what's CR safe mode do

[timid furnace]

which reminds me

[timid furnace]

it's just substitute safe mode

or substrate safe mode

[sonic sail]

specifically no-substrate? tried that via vol. up. or safe mode?

[timid furnace]

try safe mode anyway, i don't know what exactly checkra1n does for sure

and if that doesn't work i guess you can use an ssh ramdisk

[sonic sail]

that would be wise, link?

[sonic sail]

will need to reboot and stuff. gonna give that another go.

—safe-mode success! No tweaks loaded but able to run Cydia. Thanks a bunch.

Crane is the daemon I had seen.

[sonic sail]

FWIW FreshWall from SparkDev was causing the crashes.

[faint stag]

just use a ssh ramdisk?

wait i replied far too late nvm

[next wadi]

@grave sparrow gm

does this look good to you

meta:
  archs:
  - arm64
  - arm64e
  cc: /usr/bin/gcc
  swift: /usr/bin/swift
  compression: zstd
  platform: iphoneos
  rootless: true
  version: 14

control:
  architecture: iphoneos-arm64
  author: Jaidan
  description: LuzBuild demo
  id: com.jaidan.demo
  name: LuzBuildDemo
  section: Tweaks
  version: 1.0.0

scripts:
  postinst:
  - echo 'Thank you for trying out Luz!'
  - killall SpringBoard
  postrm: echo 'Thank you for trying out Luz!'

modules:
  Tweak:
    files:
    - Tweak.xm

submodules:
- Preferences```

like info-wise

[cloud yacht]

submodules is not very descirptive but (as I'm assuming this is for the docs or some kind of example) but if you got some text explaining it, it should be fine. Also modules doesn't tell me what else it can be other than a teak

[next wadi]

yeah, i do

the tweak version

thats defined in the docs

i mean im talking about how like

[cloud yacht]

In meta or control?

[next wadi]

last time i had minvers 13 for rootless

that sort of thing

it is

oh

SHIT

lmfao

[cloud yacht]

theres one in meta

[next wadi]

thats supposed to be minVers

good eye

this is why i asked

[cloud yacht]

what esle can platform be?

[next wadi]

ok

[cloud yacht]

also why is there plartform and architecture

[next wadi]

which architecture

archs in meta or architecture in control

[cloud yacht]

the one in control

[next wadi]

platform is the platform to build for using clang / swift

[cloud yacht]

actually shouldnt the one in controk be built depedant on what arch its built for or are tweaks stupid?

[next wadi]

architecture is the architecture to put in the deb so dpkg knows what it can install in

[cloud yacht]

Sure but you could auto fill that cause you have to build it

Oh wait I forgot iOS tweaks are stupid regarding arch

[next wadi]

thats supported too

[cloud yacht]

What if I wantto be bale to build the same thing for multuple?

[next wadi]

you can have all the package metadata (control, scripts) in layout/DEBIAN

[next wadi]

i'm adding that soon

ok

yes

useArc is True by default

there is one

meta.sdk

well by default Luz looks for one using xcrun

but in the docs i have it specified

https://luz.jaidan.dev/en/latest/format.html#meta

look at sdk

ok

[cloud yacht]

Actually I'll not blame you for that one casue theos has it too, but if your defining the arch's and platofrm your building in luz, it would make sence to just auto populate them in the control.

[next wadi]

meta:
  archs:
  - arm64
  - arm64e
  cc: /usr/bin/gcc
  swift: /usr/bin/swift
  compression: zstd
  platform: iphoneos
  sdk: ~/.luz/sdks/iPhoneOS14.5.sdk
  rootless: true
  minVers: 15

control:
  architecture: iphoneos-arm64
  author: Jaidan
  depends: firmware (>= 15.0), mobilesubstrate
  description: LuzBuild demo
  id: com.jaidan.demo
  name: LuzBuildDemo
  section: Tweaks
  version: 1.0.0

scripts:
  postinst:
  - echo 'Thank you for trying out Luz!'
  - killall SpringBoard
  postrm: echo 'Thank you for trying out Luz!'

modules:
  Tweak:
    files:
    - Tweak.xm

submodules:
- Preferences```

ok

[cloud yacht]

yeah whart if I install lux in a non-standard location

[next wadi]

well

[cloud yacht]

Or on windows 🤮

[next wadi]

Luz always keeps its headers in ~/.luz/vendor

which i should actually change

thats a good point

[next wadi]

windows isnt supported

use WSL

[cloud yacht]

ok fair

[next wadi]

it has installDir but not install_name

i'll add that

thats easy tho

it does

but im saying

i'll add an option for it

each tweak module can have a filter list

but i'm gonna add a plist in the dir too

ok

thats cuz by default its bundle: com.apple.SpringBoard

then what should it be

[cloud yacht]

arguably I should be able to set an ENV varivle to where to look for SDK's (and really anything ekse your looking for) that would be like path and you'd look in

[next wadi]

it is now

[next wadi]

uhhh good point

that shouldnt be very hard

[cloud yacht]

Oh also it should automaitcally determijn what to kill for the postinst (doesn't theos do something that the package managers just understnad)

[next wadi]

no cuz this can cause issues i think

its just gonna kill springboard by default

thats what theos does

[cloud yacht]

Oh really?

I thought it killed your target

[next wadi]

well it does

but what if that target doesnt start again or something

it could cause a domino effect

[cloud yacht]

Oh I see

Ok than

How do package managers determine when to respring or not?

[next wadi]

yeah i know

capt this may be a stupid question but

whats the difference between debug and release building

i know

dont do that please just explain it

[cloud yacht]

They somewhat do. If I install an app it doesn't respring but if I install a tweak it does. Do they just look if it has a hook and respring sit what?

[next wadi]

oh

is that really it

okay cool

thats easy

ok

gimme like

5 minutes

im gonna add some shit

[cloud yacht]

Wouldn't a post install that auto restrings take the springboard down with it and if your in a gui package manager take that down so if your installing a bunch of stuff it would get killed before it finished?

[next wadi]

oh

what flags would those be

[next wadi]

no

the package manager doesnt run the postinst until you press the button

oh

LMFAO

capt i may be stupid.

i may or may not

[cloud yacht]

Are you sure about that?

[next wadi]

have been

calling strip every time

😭

[next wadi]

like

99% sure

ask capt idk

[cloud yacht]

Capt can you confirm or deny

Yeah that's what I was thinking

[next wadi]

oh

it turns out that Theos doesnt add a postinst at all unless you specify one

so i'll just remove the defaults

yes

i told you it does silly billy

my tar library calls the same compression cmds

nope

[cloud yacht]

if you support postinst and postrm do you also supprot prerm

[next wadi]

yes

i dont bro

batteryassembly already builds

its one of my unit tests actually

ok

uh

yes

it did

why

[cloud yacht]

I can't wait to write some code so horrendous that it errors

Well you just write code thats impressive

I write code thats wrong but compiles

[next wadi]

WTF how

[cloud yacht]

It doesn't tell me what to do in this situation

[next wadi]

that probably speeds the compiler up though doesnt it?

that means that luz could be faster

yeah true

@grave sparrow debug and release are implemented

bro

its fine the way it is i think

cuz it would be confusing to have

wait ok so first of all

tell me what your idea is.

[cloud yacht]

Can luz ask clang for the language, then cache it and inform clang later (maybe some kind of watch mode)?

[next wadi]

no

thats not how they work

submodules point Luz to another directory with a LuzBuild in it

and Luz reads the modules from that target and adds them along with their meta so you can have Preferences in a different directory than a tweak and so on

the point is to not clutter up one file too much

while saving speed and efficiency

[cloud yacht]

I don't really like the word submodules tbh

[next wadi]

well

[cloud yacht]

but it is what they are

[next wadi]

im already calling targets modules

so what else do i call them

[cloud yacht]

dependancies

additons

extras

[next wadi]

extras

[cloud yacht]

Also I don't like how the installer is just like I'm installing deps please give me sudo without telling me what exactly its going to install (or maybe some kind of dry run would be nice)

[next wadi]

in my defense

thats what theos does

🚎

[cloud yacht]

fair

but I;m not criticing theos am i

It doesn't tell me what the missing deps are

side note, it doesn't appear to even check if its missing any deps

so it would probably always error with that

[next wadi]

oh true thats an issue

i'll see about fixing it

[cloud yacht]

also your script will try to put .luz in / if theres no $HOME set

Or maybe NULL/ or the likes depednng on how pythong works

[primal perch]

L U Z

rip battery

[cloud yacht]

argument: userspace reboots are slower, expecially on old devices

can I even userspace reboot on older iOS's

thats sudo ldrestart right?

[primal perch]

ldrestart dn

[cloud yacht]

oh I tried it on my iPhone 4 and it doesn't have sudo

lol

unkown subcommand "reboot"

definitley not in iOS 7

[steady nest]

no.

[primal perch]

real

i said it was unpopular

[cloud yacht]

@next wadi continuing on the luz installer, installing the toolchain will not delete the toolchain from the PWD if it fails to do any of the following:

• make the tmp directory
• untar the directoy
• make the swift and linux/iphone direcotry
• mv the toolchain to the linux/iphone directory
• ln the toolchain to the swift directory
  Also you don't explicilty ensure mktemp is installed

Other than that looks fine

[restive ether]

you don’t need sudo virgin

why wouldn’t it work? none of the older ones have a jailbreakd type function? the untethered jailbreaks should work at least

idk what version of ios reboot(3) started with though

that’s when xnu added reboot3?

what jailbreak is this

it doesn’t do that on ios

blame the jailbreakers man

[cloud yacht]

tbh its not hard to get root on any jailbreakers ios device

[ocean raptor]

I am entitled to do it

Idiot

[next wadi]

@grave sparrow @cloud yacht @timid furnace just pushed some commits to Luz

1. install script fixes including listing dependencies and removing tars upon errors
2. adding Debug and Release settings
3. building debs to debug paths

[cloud yacht]

Oh also I noticed the installer doesn't output anything from my package manager which might be nice to know its not stuck

[next wadi]

oh good point

i'll switch to checkoutput

staging and stuff is done in .luz/_

debs are outputted to packages/

no

🚎

[cloud yacht]

Oh uhhhhhh (note this is the old installer)

[next wadi]

just added debug building

so

com.jaidan.trolleytools_1.0.0-1+debug_all.deb  com.jaidan.trolleytools_1.0.0-2+debug_all.deb```

[cloud yacht]

Honestly I like having the old ones but it is kinda a space waster

[next wadi]

thats what it did before

i cant please everyone

[next wadi]

uhhhhhhhhh

[cloud yacht]

make a per-user config thing

[next wadi]

it should be working now @cloud yacht

[cloud yacht]

Luz is already installed

can't reinstall it

[next wadi]

rm -rf ~/.luz && pip uninstall -y luz

[ocean raptor]

@grave sparrow add a symlink to the latest build

[next wadi]

yea this is planned soon

so like what, latest.deb?

[cloud yacht]

[INSTALLER] Installing dependencies (clang). Please enter your password if prompted.
[INSTALLER] Failed to install dependencies: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sudo dnf check-update && sudo dnf group install -y "C Development Tools and Libraries" && sudo dnf install -y lzma libbsd curl perl git'

[next wadi]

[next wadi]

bru

ohhh

it needs a full path

FUCK

[ocean raptor]

STFU

[next wadi]

i'll fix it

uhh again

[ocean raptor]

Frank ocean on da dynamic island

@restive ether can we ban this mfer

[next wadi]

@cloud yacht OK

if its not fixed now i'll just kill myself probably

[cloud yacht]

its not

[cloud yacht]

[INSTALLER] Installing dependencies (clang). Please enter your password if prompted.
[INSTALLER] Failed to install dependencies: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'sudo dnf check-update && sudo dnf group install -y "C Development Tools and Libraries" && sudo dnf install -y lzma libbsd curl perl git'

[next wadi]

bro how

[ocean raptor]

You probably listen to harry styles and stuff

[next wadi]

i think it might be caching it

[ocean raptor]

Bro thinks harry styles is peak

[next wadi]

im going to bomb you

[ocean raptor]

Have you ever listened to frank ocean

[next wadi]

i was just listening to him before

GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD

wack ass top 3 @ocean raptor @grave sparrow

fr

yea

on Bro

[ocean raptor]

Umm

[next wadi]

Umm

• cameron before a hot ass take

[ocean raptor]

Listen to good country

[next wadi]

BRO

there IS no good country

😭😭😭

[ocean raptor]

Modern pop country sucks

[next wadi]

this guy also likes flo rida

im the only musically correct person here

no

he doesnt

[ocean raptor]

Chet Atkins

Not a song, a guitar player

[next wadi]

you're both wrong

ok

thats valid

coldplay is aight

i prefer old coldplay

i did

stfu

i just roasted her too

so...

[ocean raptor]

Sweet home Alabama

[hasty marsh]

ask her out rn

[azure sail]

don't lump me with your family

we are not the same

[ocean raptor]

Bro follows a 12yo on BeReal 🤨

[next wadi]

LYNYRD. SKYNYRD. IS. NOT. COUNTRY.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK.

RIGHT NOW.

[ocean raptor]

They totally are

[next wadi]

i'm going to bomb you

[ocean raptor]

Country rock is country

[next wadi]

its not country rock

it aint like that big dawg

[ocean raptor]

"I like anything except country and rap" mfers when they like a country band

[next wadi]

im not

[next wadi]

i like rap

and i'll admit when i like country

but

skynyrd is not country

i dont

lmfao

says who

how would you know

whats my mom's name

oh

[ocean raptor]

Did you know they're from Jacksonville

That's in Florida

[next wadi]

bro im never going to agree with you

they're not country

[ocean raptor]

Anyways, listen to man of mystery by Chet Atkins

[next wadi]

[ocean raptor]

One of my favorite songs to play

It's a ton of fun

[next wadi]

wtf

u play guitar?

[ocean raptor]

Maybe, why do you want to know?

[next wadi]

cuz i do too

[primal perch]

ya never heard of him

hes probably mid

[ocean raptor]

Strawberry wings (frank ocean cover)

[primal perch]

[next wadi]

owned by facts and logic

@primal perch is lynyrd skynyrd country

[primal perch]

no

[next wadi]

W

W
W
W
W

W
W

W SHEP

W

[primal perch]

they do not sound like country at all

[next wadi]

W

W
W

W AFTER W

[primal perch]

fr

[next wadi]

W

[primal perch]

shep W

(very common)

[next wadi]

true

[primal perch]

[next wadi]

that to me is like saying Boston is country

[next wadi]

hard rock

sorry buddy......

[primal perch]

cameron listens to pf so hes still based

[next wadi]

true

dogs

i love Dogs

[ocean raptor]

Music is subjective until you refuse to admit that a band has songs of a genre because you arbitrarily decide to hate the genre

[next wadi]

ok fine they're country

i guess i shouldnt say i hate country

i should say

i dont like most country songs

they're like all super similar imo

[ocean raptor]

Literally not

[next wadi]

ig thats why i like skynyrd

cuz they're not similar

[ocean raptor]

Country is such a diverse genre

[next wadi]

well of what i've heard a lot of it has been super similar sounding

[ocean raptor]

That's cause you're listening to modern pop country

[primal perch]

🤓

[ocean raptor]

Literally start in pan handle and as you go up country music's sound completely changes

[cloud yacht]

it was. Also the options for dnf don;t install clang by default.
(Also my internet is so slow that the toolchain takes like 13.5 minutes please don't make me do that again)
(also untaring is kinda noisey, might not be nessicary to output that)

also not in my path but cause I can see pip's output, I can see it warning me that its not in my path (and where it was put)

running luz would make sence to show a little help

[next wadi]

i'll add a toolchain option

idk why i was tar -xvf ing

i'll remove the v

[cloud yacht]

Oh also where can I specify the default bundle ID prefix?

[next wadi]

you kinda Cant

i'm gonna add a bunch of options like that soon

DO NOT FRET .

~/.luz/cfg.yml

[cloud yacht]

oh also the tweak name in the bundle id should be lowercased by default

[next wadi]

i'll fix it

[cloud yacht]

e.g.

great job discord

Also an option for the default author field

also a deafult for the tweak name (default to the project name)

also don't just exit if I provide an invalid value

Oh neat ```
[!] An error occured: Specified archive /home/shorty/.local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/luz/luzgen/templates/tweak/logos.tar.gz does not exist.

[next wadi]

ok

[next wadi]

WTF that shouldnt even be possible

[cloud yacht]

the tweak directory is just straight up non-existant

[next wadi]

how

what the frick

[next wadi]

bru

wtf

i mustve nuked it by accident oh my god

[cloud yacht]

Oh also you should probably document upgrading and uninstalling somewhere

[next wadi]

Yea i'm gonna add that soon

[cloud yacht]

Yeah in this commit https://github.com/LuzProject/luz/commit/e947e5c9d8f02b52d38e3cc60ff2353aa1ed0b55

Oh also some options on the gen prompts are not very helpful. E.G.

• source type
• dependancies (okay-ish cause default and if you've made tweaks before, makes sence)
• arch (above)
• project folder (is this just where is being written to?)

also why is the default depends for tool mobilesubstrate

what kind of tool needs substrate

and also how would i even blank that out in the prompt stage

is this a clang thing?

[cloud yacht]

if so ^

ok no installing clang didn't fix

[next wadi]

its in the toolchain

which i realize now you have to specify manually when you build

[cloud yacht]

which I assume is a bug

Also you set Relase/Debug in the LuzBuild file which means you have to modify the file when you want to build a release build

[gentle grove]

LuzBuild being version controlled?

that sounds like a bad design

[cloud yacht]

Also what happens when I set both to true (or false)

[cloud yacht]

kinda sounds nessicary considering its acting like your control file, etc

[gentle grove]

how could debug/release be something version controlled

that should be specific to the build dir

[cloud yacht]

thats why I was pointing it out

[gentle grove]

yeah

bad design

[cloud yacht]

sed -i s/debug/release/ LuzBuild && luz build ; sed -i s/release/debug/ LuzBuild

[subtle scaffold]

Can anyone elaborate about waiting for theos to be updated for rootless? And is there any progress?

[blazing shuttle]

hello, I'm trying to run one of the checkra1n scripts, but I get this error:

$ scripts % python3 fetch_stdout.py > n61.adt 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/marwan/PongoOS/scripts/fetch_stdout.py", line 26, in <module>
    import usb.core
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'usb'
$ scripts %

[hasty ruin]

There’s a theos fork which works fine but is incompatible with XinaA15, due to an issue on Xina’s side

[faint stag]

did you install pyusb

[blazing shuttle]

installed it, but now I get this error:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/Users/marwan/pongoOS/scripts/issue_cmd.py", line 26, in <module>
    dev = usb.core.find(idVendor=0x05ac, idProduct=0x4141)
  File "/Users/marwan/Library/Python/3.9/lib/python/site-packages/usb/core.py", line 1309, in find
    raise NoBackendError('No backend available')
usb.core.NoBackendError: No backend available

(connected to Apple TV HD on pongoOS)

[cloud yacht]

What OS are you running this on?

[blazing shuttle]

macOS

[dense mauve]

Hey does anyone know if Frida works (or a way to make it work) on a non jailbroken phone? (iOS 15.4.1, 12 pro max if that helps)
Been trying abt everything and shit just broke lol
Seems to just crash upon opening

[cloud yacht]

can't frida work jailed with a developer image or smth

https://frida.re/docs/ios/#without-jailbreak

[faint stag]

well you need the developer image regardless of jb state

[spring turret]

can someone make a ipa and make it called “the worlds smallest violen” and basically just make it a very small violen with a black background and when you click the violen it plays

here i’ll even provide a violen

[cloud yacht]

No not if you install frida server when jailbroken

[gentle grove]

Violin

[next wadi]

@cloud yacht @gentle grove CLI assignment of Meta variables

you can change any meta option via the command line

i.e. luz build -c -m rootless=true && luz build -c -m rootless=false

[gentle grove]

What's meta option

[next wadi]

SDK, C path, Swift path, Architectures, etc

[cloud yacht]

Nice

Did you end up fixing that bug with build I got?

[next wadi]

what bug was it again

[cloud yacht]

#development message

[next wadi]

oh

that should be doable i think

[ocean raptor]

CAPT NOT SUCKING APPLE'S DICK?!?!?! @primal perch!!!

[primal perch]

rare

very rare

[ocean raptor]

I DIDNT KNOW THIS WAS POSSIBLE

[next wadi]

ok @cloud yacht that should do it

so uh

[cloud yacht]

pip install https://github.com/LuzProject/luz/archive/refs/heads/main.zip yeah yeah

[next wadi]

pip uninstall -y luz && python -c "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LuzProject/luz/main/install.py)"

or that

that works

yea

🧌

but uninstall it first

[primal perch]

use vs code

[cloud yacht]

for what?

[next wadi]

oh btw @cloud yacht i updated pydeb too

so you should prolly update that as well

[cloud yacht]

ok waiting for toolchain moment

[next wadi]

wtf

did you rm -rf ~/.luz

[cloud yacht]

no just uninstall and reinstall

[next wadi]

with the script?

[cloud yacht]

yeah copy and paste what you did

wait the dir are still there

[next wadi]

ugh

i broke a bunch of shit i think

hold on

[cloud yacht]

ctrl + c stopped the download of the toolchain but continued on with what it was doing

[next wadi]

@cloud yacht when its done could you run

ls -la ~/.luz/toolchain for me

[cloud yacht]

Is that in pip or your github directly?

[next wadi]

github

https://github.com/LuzProject/pydeb

[cloud yacht]

drwxr-xr-x. 1 shorty shorty 20 Feb 19 23:27 .
drwxr-xr-x. 1 shorty shorty 46 Feb 19 23:33 ..
drwxr-xr-x. 1 shorty shorty 12 Feb 19 23:27 linux
drwxr-xr-x. 1 shorty shorty 12 Feb 19 23:27 swift

[next wadi]

what kind of crack was i smoking

ok

give me a few

[cloud yacht]

I'm assumign hte kind that causes this ```
shorty@Shorty-Laptop:~/projects/luz-tool> luz build
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/shorty/.local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/luz/main.py", line 57, in main
LuzBuild(args).build_and_pack()
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/home/shorty/.local/lib/python3.11/site-packages/luz/compiler/luzbuild.py", line 155, in init
luz_prefix = resolve_path(f'{self.storage}/toolchain/linux/iphone/usr/bin')
^^^^^^^^^^^^
AttributeError: 'LuzBuild' object has no attribute 'storage'

[!] An error occured: 'LuzBuild' object has no attribute 'storage'

[next wadi]

yea

ok @cloud yacht ur gonna have to rm -rf ~/.luz and reinstall with the script

you can pass -ns if you dont wanna download sdks

[cloud yacht]

yeah but I need sdk's to build, right?

[next wadi]

yeah

i didnt know if you had them already or whatever

or you could even just move them to a different dir and copy them over once the script finishes

[cloud yacht]

oh and for future refrence, this installs without cache python -c "$(curl -fsSL -H 'Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store' https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LuzProject/luz/main/install.py)"

[next wadi]

ty

i'll save that somewhere

capt

did you see what i sent before

its not that hard

[restive ether]

xcrun

[next wadi]

no but its an easy format i think

[cloud yacht]

Whats pbxproj stand for?
Pretty Bad XCode Project?

Name your parser cpfo

[lime pivot]

Project Builder X, initial working title for Xcode

[cloud yacht]

Makes sense

[lime pivot]

Xcode was the continuation of NeXT's Project Builder

that makes everything built with xcode bad 🙃

Theos supremacy

[cloud yacht]

sounds about right

[lime pivot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Builder

[next wadi]

the reason i dont like theos is because i hate makefiles

thats literally it

i dont even know why i hate them

i just do

[cloud yacht]

honestly they are okay when other people are writing them for you

define good

[next wadi]

blud did NOT just say that

[lime pivot]

don't worry, I hate makefiles more than you do

[next wadi]

zefram for windows

[primal perch]

probably 700 at least

new

used you could do 200-300

with some tweaks

[cloud yacht]

just use your existing computer

• vm

[next wadi]

btw im gonna tell you the same thing as i told cynder

me making luz wasnt a jab at you or theos or anything, i started it as a project cuz i was bored one day and i decided to take it further cuz i didnt have anything else to do

[primal perch]

i have a i5-7200u based laptop with 16g ram that was like +30 and if it were quad core it wouuld be pretty solid

but its 2c/4t so it kinda mid af

[lime pivot]

never had any concerns about that, don't worry man

I like to see people tinkering with these things

[cloud yacht]

A little bit of competion never hurt anyone

[next wadi]

luz v2 will be meson

[next wadi]

thank you, i really appreciate it

to be honest, i wouldnt be a developer right now if it werent for theos lmfao
my first rodeo ever developing was tweak development and obviously that wouldnt have been possible if it werent for theos so i have huge respect for it

[hasty ruin]

i love competion

[lime pivot]

writing bad tweaks isn't a competition

[hasty ruin]

not competition

competion

[hasty ruin]

mavalry

[next wadi]

mavalry doesnt count

reachoptions

[hasty ruin]

what about the uitableview one

[next wadi]

wha

[cloud yacht]

I mean my first tweak just replaced strings of everything with "hello world" (and didn't even do that good of a job at that)

[primal perch]

furry porn

[primal perch]

jk

[next wadi]

I'm going to bomb you

[cloud yacht]

Sidenote: Why on earth did I push this to github. However, thanks for making theos for me to be able to make this

[hasty ruin]

#import <Foundation/NSString.h>

%hook NSBundle

- (NSString *)localizedStringForKey:(NSString *)key 
  value:(NSString *)value 
  table:(NSString *)tableName {
      return @"hello world";
}

%end```

[ocean raptor]

writing bad apt gui front ends isn't a competition either

[hasty ruin]

[cloud yacht]

Correct

[hasty ruin]

This repository has been archived by the owner on Oct 5, 2022. It is now read-only.

[cloud yacht]

I've written worse code, surprsingly

[primal perch]

unsafe

[hasty ruin]

we know

[primal perch]

.

[hasty ruin]

.

[cloud yacht]

I do have some of it public but I'm not sharing with the class

[primal perch]

sidenote how are you still a whitename

i swear ive seen you here for months

[hasty ruin]

been here since 2019

and hasnt been banned yet

[primal perch]

Level 13

[hasty ruin]

[primal perch]

me: level 84

🤓

[hasty ruin]

mem plus is 15 right

[primal perch]

yea

[cloud yacht]

I used to use the #bot-commands as a place to upload files cause of the bigger upload limit

[lime pivot]

lmao

[primal perch]

gigachad

[hasty ruin]

who the fuck puts the constructor there

[primal perch]

i often do the same

aes256(file) -> put it in general named gorn

google drive without the google

[cloud yacht]

I feel like the theos template

[primal perch]

you

[cloud yacht]

the tweak with simple prefrences

[hasty ruin]

[primal perch]

JOE BYRON

[hasty ruin]

its wilsons code

[hasty ruin]

rest in peace

[primal perch]

you committed that change tho

its JOEver

[cloud yacht]

Oh it just adds it to the bottom and I appended to the ifle and didn't touch what was there

Yeah thats my code

can't blame anyone else

[hasty ruin]

damn @cloud yacht i didnt know you used rust

[cloud yacht]

uhhh when

[hasty ruin]

my opinion of you has changed for the worst

[cloud yacht]

i don't remeber

[hasty ruin]

https://github.com/WilsontheWolf/aoc2021/blob/master/src/main.rs

[cloud yacht]

Oh yeah

Honestly the language seems cool but the learning curve from my main language of js is a bit

learning c++ in school so it shouldn't be that bad from there

[cloud yacht]

guess what % of that code copilot wrote

[hasty ruin]

68

[cloud yacht]

I was going to say 75%

I had not clue what I was doing

thats why I only made it to day 3

[hasty ruin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933428639620542474/1067152949211574332/caption.gif

@grave sparrow

[primal perch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933428639620542474/1067152949211574332/caption.gif

fr

[cloud yacht]

I'm now also done my math after like all day

[hasty ruin]

do more

[primal perch]

fr

sqrt(sqrt(sqrt(69))

)

[hasty ruin]

[primal perch]

based because math

unbased because mac

[primal perch]

based

python chad pilled

[hasty ruin]

this is still on mac

[primal perch]

also get 3.11.2 4head

[next wadi]

@cloud yacht

@cloud yacht when you get a minute you should try this

python -c "$(curl -fsSL -H 'Cache-Control: no-cache, no-store' https://raw.githubusercontent.com/LuzProject/luz/main/install.py)" --update

its pretty neat

[timid furnace]

wait

Cache-Control works?

[next wadi]

thats what wilson said idk

i was just reusing their command from earlier

[timid furnace]

yea afaik there's no way to bypass the cache

at least that's what everyone says online

[next wadi]

yeah you're right it didnt work for me

wait i lied lmfao i didnt have the commit pushed

☠️

hold up

yea no

doesnt work

[timid furnace]

yea :/

uh

try this though

add -H "Accept-Encoding: deflate"

i don't think it's a proper solution and rather just routes to a different server but might as well try ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[next wadi]

woah

that did it

[zenith hatch]

gm

[next wadi]

gm

[zenith hatch]

gm

[next wadi]

why are you awake

[zenith hatch]

we watch movie in vc

[next wadi]

oh true

i accidentally joined for like a second earlier

[zenith hatch]

lol

[gentle grove]

A fast, open source

[blazing vault]

not fast to compile though holy fucking shit

spent 4 hours compiling only to realize it was for the wrong arch

fuck webkit

[gentle grove]

wtf how so long

hours?!

[blazing vault]

thakn u :)))))

oh hours.

that's what u are talking to

about

[gentle grove]

what

[next wadi]

That was a very inappropriate joke.

[blazing vault]

yeah it was more than 4 hours

[gentle grove]

that's a long time

[blazing vault]

i dont know why i had the patience to wait that long tbh

[gentle grove]

maybe I'll try building it

[blazing vault]

what mac do u have

i think i heard its faster to build on linux

[gentle grove]

linux

[blazing vault]

but FUCK LINUX

oh ok

[gentle grove]

why

[blazing vault]

what cpu do u have

[gentle grove]

i7-13700K

[blazing vault]

yeah holy shit lol it hopefully should compile for u a lot quicker

[gentle grove]

it took like 7 mins for Firefox

but Firefox is a lot faster to build I think

[primal perch]

mid

7950x>>

[gentle grove]

fr

[gentle grove]

midi

[primal perch]

[gentle grove]

I am not watching this

[primal perch]

KILL FURRIES

[gentle grove]

furries

[blazing vault]

i thought you loved furry gorn

[primal perch]

[blazing vault]

u will

[primal perch]

that was my alt i think

[gentle grove]

Me rn

math

[hasty marsh]

shep

im going to cum

wtf this isn't general

[subtle scaffold]

Though, would we have to wait for it to be updated for other jailbreaks? Like a fork of Fugu15 that has tweak injection?

[hasty ruin]

We now have palera1n rootless

[subtle scaffold]

Oh ok

[subtle scaffold]

Theoretical Question: if Fugu15 gets tweak injection in the future, would it be possible to use palera1n rootless bootstrap and substitute to make it work?

[topaz yew]

anyone know how to get macOS to stop killing my program when i signed it with private entitlements

ellekit did it somehow i think with its loader binary on macOS

[cloud yacht]

it worked once. Maybe I just need to add a different header each time to force it to refrsesh

[cloud yacht]

Update works fine. Build still does not

You also don't install clang on fedora in the installer

[heady pecan]

U manual install

Sudo dnf install clang

[cloud yacht]

Yes but his thing checks if I have it installed, installs other stuff and doesn't install clang

[heady pecan]

Go to their github

[restive ether]

open source xcrun. 🦅🦅

[ocean raptor]

Where's my xcrun.sh

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/Procursus/blob/tt/in-house/build_tools/xcrun

What if I stock step on your balls

[hasty ruin]

??

[onyx ember]

It means he would like to crush your balls 💀

[next wadi]

cool bug facts: all of these issues would be fixed if i had an easily accessible Linux test device

cuz i use a mac

i'm gonna see about getting one

[ocean raptor]

Dual boot

Docker

[next wadi]

M1

docker isnt a bad choice

[ocean raptor]

You have so many options

[next wadi]

i'll look into that

[ocean raptor]

🦾

[faint timber]

my userspace doesn't boot F

[next wadi]

ok sorry @marble perch @ocean raptor i may be stupid

i'll do it when i get home

omw

i need more storage

ext ssd 🔜

[primal perch]

third times the charm

after the 3rd time you said it jaidan was like "oh fr"

[next wadi]

cuz for some reason i thought there werent any distros that worked on m1

im a smooth brain thats why i apologized

[primal perch]

troll

nothin to apologize for it was jut kinda funny

[primal perch]

sabrent m.2 enclosure and 2tb sn770

150$ total

https://tenor.com/view/gaming-gaming-time-when-is-gaming-time-gamer-gamer-chair-gif-24791444

[ocean raptor]

No, he has an m1

[next wadi]

well cuz it sounded like you thought i was just ignoring what he was saying or smth

[primal perch]

yh

[next wadi]

but i didnt know it wouldnt work

[primal perch]

apple ssd pricing is a scam

genuine robbery

[ocean raptor]

Idiot

[primal perch]

nand is so cheap

[ocean raptor]

I was clearly making a joke about m2 vs m.2

[primal perch]

yeah that was apparent

chad valve

so based dude

chad framework

2tb in 2230 is still cheaper than 256gb->1tb

compared to apple

if/when i need 2tb internal i presume itll be cheaper

i havent maxed out my 256g internal yet

let alone my 512g microsd

browsed on it havent ever bought smth from it

cameren uses it a ton

i assume yes but the price is believable

[hasty ruin]

just use capt's card and try it out

[primal perch]

fr

wait

he’s broke

[restive ether]

i would absolutely never buy computer parts on ali

that’s either a used WD, not a WD or is a WD but they’re lying about which one it is

[dreamy mason]

Hey I'm Xiaoching and I sell computer parts on AliExpress this gives me a bad reputation please take back your words

Oh and about the lying. We never lie were a safe company you can trust us

[primal perch]

not accurate

engrish was too good

[turbid fjord]

Go ahead, make captcode

[gentle grove]

@grave sparrow make CaptCode

[ocean raptor]

Yes

Clang is the default compiler

It does not have Xcode

[gentle grove]

just set your default compiler to clang on linux

[next wadi]

ok @cloud yacht so we have a few problems

most notably the fact that the toolchain im installing appears to kinda not work

at least