development

[gentle grove]

Idol

[tepid olive]

wtf????

[primal perch]

[vivid dew]

tr

[primal perch]

@grave sparrow

[hasty ruin]

Don’t remove birthday boy

[primal perch]

yea im just trolling capt

[hasty ruin]

Good 👍

[primal perch]

troll success

[unkempt raft]

I’ve heard you give verified roles to devs

[primal perch]

verified successful ones

[tepid olive]

So trueee

[ocean raptor]

Yeah, so am I

Seems fine to me, why don't you redo it better than?

[tepid olive]

I mean bro

It doesn’t work on linux, the views don’t update

Clearly the project is too big though it’s really cool

[ocean raptor]

Linux is not the main target, so

The main target is web

[tepid olive]

yeah that’s why i said it sucks

on web it’s okayish

[pearl sail]

You can verify that I am the worst

[ocean raptor]

clang sucks, it can't build optimized binaries for my hardware that was manufactured for only 2 weeks

And only 5 units still exist of

[tepid olive]

which hardware

[primal perch]

arm69

[ocean raptor]

Your mom

[vivid dew]

can i get my verified role back

[pearl sail]

Damn that hardware is ancient

[weary turtle]

so i’m making my own spotify theme….

and this one bit is stumping me

changing the color of that black bar

[primal perch]

based

[weary turtle]

yeah but uh

I can't for the life of my change that bar away

[cloud yacht]

just change black

[weary turtle]

I've changed every other color

[weary turtle]

<key>glueBlackColor</key>
        <dict>
            <key></key>
            <string>#dc148cff</string>
        </dict>

[cloud yacht]

Yeah I don't speak plist sorry

[weary turtle]

tldr black is now a purpley color

[primal perch]

or just use light mode and call the theme creamsicle

[weary turtle]

lol

but yeah, I've changed every color code, but it is just staying black, has anyone here made spotify themes before?

and would this be a better suited question for #969343289641828382 ?

[primal perch]

either here or themes

i don’t know shit about theming spotify unfortunately so good luck

[weary turtle]

alright, someone here should though....

I'll put it in both

now to wait....

[primal perch]

[hasty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-patrick-star-patrick-nickelodeon-nicktoons-gif-16276482

[primal perch]

facts

[naive kraken]

looks.. ok? the bundle check obviously has to be applied to frameworks too and not just to the main bundle id

btw I don't know how I feel about this being written in swift, for the injector you will honestly want it to use the least amount of dependencies as possible

so it'd be a good idea to write it in C and only depend on like.. maybe CoreFoundation and Security

although the libhooker TweakInject also depends on a bunch of things so it's probably not that big of an issue

this is how substrate does the bundle id check https://github.com/opa334/ChoicyLoader/blob/master/ChoicyLoader.m#L27

also you should probably sort the files alphabetically because other tweak injectors also sort them (except for Substrate, which is the whole reason why ChoicyLoader exists)

[tepid olive]

right

forgot about that

[cedar sparrow]

Does anyone else have issues with bootstrap on Fugu15 being stuck?

[faint timber]

Are you a developer?

[tepid olive]

true

here's the thing though: i need a plist serializer

[naive kraken]

CFDictionaryRef is your friend

[tepid olive]

alright

[crisp frost]

u pass this flowchart?

[faint timber]

https://tenor.com/view/deadass-client-no-cap-your-honor-gif-24491180

[ocean raptor]

How do you make a trustcache?

[turbid fjord]

https://lmgtfy.app/?q=How+do+you+make+a+trustcache%3F

Your welcome

:)

[ocean raptor]

I was joking

[turbid fjord]

Yeah the link was a joke. I’m sure you can google as you have developer role

[ocean raptor]

Wen eta trustcache(2.0)

[glacial matrix]

Don’t you just do [[TrustCache sharedInstance] addCache:[TrustCache new]];?

[primal perch]

fr

[weary turtle]

bump

[naive kraken]

I guess it's just a client check so you can't impersonate a root service helper

[zenith hatch]

can u teach me how to make a trust cache ples

/s

[unkempt raft]

how to duwnload trust cache ples

how do I install trust cache I NEED TRUST CACHE

[ocean raptor]

Just give up already

Why not load it from launchd?

[primal perch]

have you tried: cope

and if not that: mald

seethe perhaps

[ocean raptor]

Why in constructor?

[rain falcon]

listen fucker

[tepid olive]

why not launchd? you're already inside launchd

smh

good do it

lol

[naive kraken]

you're already in launchd so… just use internal launchd functions to register the jailbreakd plist and make it launch?…

other than that, no idea lol

well if you're in the constructor you will probably want to hook a function that gets called later

after launchd stuff is set up but right before it starts spawning other processes would be my guess

(besides that, I wonder how you even ended up in this state because you somehow need to preserve krw through the userspace reboot)

[tepid olive]

why did they have to close source launchd

[gentle grove]

bobashare.bobertlo.com

[native dune]

bobertlo

[ocean raptor]

Because xpc

[gentle grove]

BORROW CHECKER NEEDS TO CHILL

[tepid olive]

Stop using Rust

Use Swift or C

[gentle grove]

ok im just gonna clone the string every request

[primal perch]

rust > swift

[tepid olive]

shut UP

[primal perch]

at least they properly support non apple, swift being cross platform is more of a technicality

[pearl sail]

let me just do a little dynamic linking in rust

[gentle grove]

can you do it in swift

[primal perch]

yea

[gentle grove]

is it usable

im gonna go insane i cant even just clone the string

[primal perch]

yea

[gentle grove]

oh ok

holy shit

i got it

had to use a different form to return a response

one that could take an owned value

i fixed it

i was misunderstanding the stupid error

'2 was the async {} block, not the entire closure

this is the best i can dop

oh great

its filtered

[tepid olive]

?

have you used swift

[primal perch]

i have and it’s a pain on windows

[ocean raptor]

Swift on web

Swift does not support FreeBSD

Therefor it is useless

[primal perch]

true

[gentle grove]

does rust

IT DOES

[primal perch]

RUST GOOD

[primal perch]

fair

based

my opinions change based on who im talking to

so i piss them off the most

[stuck wyvern]

I play both teams so I always win

[kindred portal]

I really should start doing more stuff in Rust

I expected it to be way harder to learn

[stuck wyvern]

if that's a win for you go for it

[faint stag]

segmentation fault (core dumped)

it's really that easy

[cloud yacht]

Thats called playing the devils advocate

[kindred portal]

Okay so I can decrypt ipa files now but I just realised I don’t know how to download them (I’m talking about like downloading ipas of apps I own from the App Store so I can patch them)

Does anyone know how? (I saw ipatool but I’d prefer something Linux or iOS if possible)

[ocean raptor]

ipatool

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-duck-cute-adorable-gif-14974530

[kindred portal]

Nice

The only Mac I have is in a VM and only runs on one CPU core because none of the kernel extensions I’ve found can sync the CPU properly so I try avoid it where possible haha

[ocean raptor]

https://github.com/majd/ipatool/releases/tag/v1.1.4 ios build right there

[kindred portal]

Ohhh nice
Thank you!

Oh boy

Why is this fine on my older terminal emulator what?

[unkempt raft]

Hi, probably no one knows why, but why does only number “2436” work for getting iPhone X gestures by setting ArtworkDeviceSubType inside insidecom.apple.MobileGestalt.plist? Tried a lot of different ids taken from other devices, but they don’t do anything (only 2436 works)

[primal perch]

(cr)apple moment

they didnt even do points

just raw pixels

[unkempt raft]

That’s the interesting part

I tried a 12 mini ID - 2340, which is notched, but didn’t work

Strange

So for some reason only 5.8” models work…

[hasty ruin]

Because they’re the best

[faint stag]

did you install the iterm integration or something lol

[kindred portal]

Honestly I cannot remember haha

[faint stag]

then check lol

[native dune]

bump

[weary turtle]

bump again, how do I change the black color in Theme.plist?

I've changed every single color code but nothing happens to the black

[indigo peak]

w playlist

[weary turtle]

fr 70s music slaps

here’s another look at the themed

the colors go together super well but

[weary turtle]

this 😭

[hasty ruin]

you mean in the comment at the top of all files?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/33720/change-templates-in-xcode/33743#33743

[tepid olive]

to replace substitute, what components do i need

i can’t get a launchd hook done i’m not good enough

i suppose i need a posix_spawn hook to install my injector in every process

@grave sparrow any idea if i can patch __dyld_start so it loads my injector every time

https://github.com/opensource-apple/dyld/blob/master/src/dyldStartup.s

this is what i want but i’m not sure how i’d go about hooking dyld

[primal perch]

filter = com.apple.dyld

[tepid olive]

i am the injector

so this cannot work

[cloud yacht]

No way Icraze verified

[faint stag]

i thought the normal behavior is to rely on a filter

every process sounds a bit dangerous doesn’t it

[hasty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/iden-versio-youarenotverified-verify-gif-25682430

[cloud yacht]

Im not even developer

[hasty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-compelling-didnt-ask-dont-gif-24737803

[ocean raptor]

The injector is in every process

Then the injector reads to filters to determine what else to load

[faint stag]

is there not a way to avoid that

i mean, of course there should be

[ocean raptor]

There is

It's called restore rootfs

[ocean raptor]

Or I guess you could have a daemon monitor for new processes and inject into any new processes that match filters, but that seems very buggy

[indigo peak]

how to get pid from bundleid

[tepid olive]

yeah that’s gonna be a part of it

[tepid olive]

shouldn’t be

[ocean raptor]

Me fr

[tepid olive]

the hook that sets the env should be able to filter

[ocean raptor]

Let's say nothing hooks springboard so the injector isn't loaded, but then springboard launches an app that needs to be hooked, so how will the injector be loaded into that app?

[tepid olive]

the app will be posix_spawn’d

or it will use dyld start

in both cases it works

i am not sure how the app store fast path works but i believe it’s approximately the same thing

[primal perch]

among us bussy

ill fix your socket alright

frco

Fr Co.

[hasty ruin]

epic malware fail

[turbid fjord]

The Fr company.

[tepid olive]

did u create the socket with different perms

maybe it can’t access the file

[indigo peak]

@grave sparrow bitch

or like, how do you get the pid from launchApplicationWithIdentifier

[naive kraken]

apps get posix_spawned from launchd and SpringBoard just tells launchd what do to

[ocean raptor]

I was just using that as a fake example

[naive kraken]

I think the only way this could work if you somehow fuck with the dyld vnode in kernel space or make the system use a different dyld binary

[tepid olive]

what’s the dyld vnode

[naive kraken]

so I guess you haven't done kernel stuff before? lol

[tepid olive]

no

[naive kraken]

I mean, a vnode is a representation of a file in kernel memory

like some C programm calls open("whatever") then the vnode is loaded in kernel space and the program gets a file descriptor that's only valid in the process space and later when using it the kernel links that back to the vnode it came from

and well vnodes are global but when every single process closes them they get freed

and well you could maybe fuck with vnodes so that if something tries to access dyld it goes to a different file

or you could just outright try to change the dyld path somehow maybe with env variables idk

otherwise you have a chicken and egg problem. your dylib is not injected into the process so how would you even patch dyld_start in the first place

[indigo peak]

@grave sparrow

@interface SBApplicationController : NSObject
+ (id)sharedInstance;
- (id)applicationWithBundleIdentifier:(id)arg1;
@end

@interface SBApplication : NSObject
@property (readonly, nonatomic) pid_t pid;
@end

// launch the app in the background
[[UIApplication sharedApplication] launchApplicationWithIdentifier:bundleID suspended:YES];
    
// get the pid of the app
SBApplicationController *appController = [objc_getClass("SBApplicationController") sharedInstance];
SBApplication *appInstance = [appController applicationWithBundleIdentifier:bundleID];
pid_t pid = appInstance.pid;
NSLog(@"[trolldecrypt] pid: %d", pid);

this should probably work (i think)

but the pid is 0

[primal perch]

is the app already launched by the time this is run

[indigo peak]

it should be, i just edited the block to match my actual code which has the launchApplication code

[primal perch]

if that’s the actual order of the code then yea

that’s why

[indigo peak]

yeah

thats the order

[primal perch]

it’s not synchronous so it’s very unlikely the kernel launched that process by then

[indigo peak]

so how do i make it synchronous

[primal perch]

hacky solution: run that in a while loop until pid isn’t zero

[indigo peak]

[primal perch]

proper solution: RE more idk

[indigo peak]

got it

nope

hacky solution 😄

[primal perch]

could be a whopping 50ms or 100ms stall

idk lmao

[indigo peak]

its only 0

not changing

[primal perch]

L

function might not be implemented then

[indigo peak]

prob

unfortunately

could i use a system command for this @primal perch @grave sparrow ?

like would system() work on ios 15 w trollstore

[naive kraken]

first, 🤮

second, no, system hasn't worked like.... iOS 10 maybe?

[indigo peak]

that’s why I suggested it, because everything I’ve seen has been from iOS 10 and that’s what they say to use

lmfaoo

[naive kraken]

-[FBProcess _executeBlockAfterLaunchCompletes:] might be what you're looking for

[indigo peak]

ok i think i got something to work

very hacky

but it works (i think)

-(pid_t)pidForBinaryName:(NSString*)binaryName {
    int mib[4] = {CTL_KERN, KERN_PROC, KERN_PROC_ALL, 0};
    size_t miblen = 4;

    size_t size;
    int st = sysctl(mib, miblen, NULL, &size, NULL, 0);

    struct kinfo_proc * process = NULL;
    struct kinfo_proc * newprocess = NULL;

    do {
        size += size / 10;
        newprocess = realloc(process, size);

        if(!newprocess) {
            if (process){
                free(process);
            }
            return -1;
        }

        process = newprocess;
        st = sysctl(mib, miblen, process, &size, NULL, 0);
    } while (st == -1 && errno == ENOMEM);

    if(st == 0) {
        if(size % sizeof(struct kinfo_proc) == 0) {
            int nprocess = size / sizeof(struct kinfo_proc);
            if(nprocess) {
                for(int i = nprocess - 1; i >= 0; i--) {
                    NSString *processName = [[NSString alloc] initWithFormat:@"%s", process[i].kp_proc.p_comm];
                    if ([processName isEqualToString:binaryName]) {
                        return process[i].kp_proc.p_pid;
                    }
                }

                free(process);
            }
        }
    }
    return -1;
}

i should prob put a check in for if its a system proc or not

hmmm

[weary turtle]

bump

[tepid olive]

true

i thought that maybe launchctl env would work

[naive kraken]

if ur in springboard there is like a hundred better ways of doing this

if not, then it's fine I guess

ok open question: how do I check if a device has a neural engine

hmmmm, I guess it's just A12 and up so I can just check for arm64e

[hasty ruin]

there's an MG key for it

HasAppleNeuralEngine

[naive kraken]

but is it true for A11

cause that kinda has a neural engine but it can't be used by CoreML

I mean, I suppose I can check

[hasty ruin]

no clue, i don't have an A11 device

[tepid olive]

would be stupid if a11 was named "bionic" but didn't have a neural engine

[tepid olive]

i do

[naive kraken]

I have 3 A11 devices

lol

is there a package that lets me look up an MG key from command line

[indigo peak]

its inside an app for trollstore

[naive kraken]

in what app

[hasty ruin]

https://github.com/coolstar/uikittools-ng/blob/master/gssc.m

[primal perch]

HasBattery

troll

HasThinBezel

[hasty ruin]

AppStore

[indigo peak]

broooooooo

have we tried forcing HasSEP to be true for checkra1n

😭

[primal perch]

TRUE

[ocean raptor]

LLLLLLL

mgask better

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/uikittools-ng/blob/main/mgask.m

[naive kraken]

nice HasAppleNeuralEngine is false on A11 lol

[primal perch]

even they know its shit

[restive ether]

wrong uikittools

oh never mind

[primal perch]

Cumereon

[ocean raptor]

Is it possible to make procursus uikittools not show as a fork...

Pro uikittools >>> every other one

@lime pivot https://twitter.com/charizteam/status/1591231938895171585

Chariz 📦 (@CharizTeam)

No verification checkmarks needed on Chariz. We hand curate to make sure everyone is who they say they are ✅

If you have $8 to spare, send it to your favorite developers’ donation links instead. They would really appreciate the support!

Twitter · Nov 12, 2022, 12:50 AM

I am excited to announce that I am not who I say I am

Cameron Katri is a fake identity

My real name is Samuel Bingner

[lime pivot]

oh thank god

can you please update dpkg to support zstd

[hasty ruin]

ok i like you now

[ocean raptor]

I dislike like you even more now, I didn't know that's possible

[ocean raptor]

😭

[kindred portal]

Okay the answer was yes
I’m going to just uninstall that now haha

[lime pivot]

oop sorry yeah NewTerm 2 doesn't understand the iTerm2 integration escapes

NewTerm 3 (#s o o n) does

[kindred portal]

Ohhh okay haha

[ocean raptor]

Do not use NewTerm(3)

[indigo peak]

@naive kraken do you need to generate a CT cert for opainject to work in the first place?
or is that just for the decryption dylib

edit:
asking because everytime i run it, dlopen returns 0x0

edit 2:
INFO: failed to get thread state when checking for pthread 11523: (os/kern) invalid argument after everything else appears to run fine

[restive ether]

no sorry I cant

[lime pivot]

fake cameron

[indigo peak]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11655430/network-outbound-is-denied-with-network-entitlements

@grave sparrow

[pearl sail]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-frank-castle-punisher-no-frank-castle-no-no-no-no-gif-24489266

[indigo peak]

/path isnt in /var

thats why dummy

ios 15 moment

:nfr:

you gave me hope with this ping because i thought it was opa

but nooo

it was you

smelly capt

[rain falcon]

💀

[hexed bolt]

How can I split my Tweak.x file into multiple .x files?
I use %group to define hook groups and then enable in %ctor by user prefs
Problem is, that I kinda have too many of these groups, so splitting them into their own files would be perfect.

[primal perch]

faptain kink

[indigo peak]

I couldn’t get the sub to activate, but I think I was able to spoof the coin count

and allow for the coins to actually be used to purchase shit

[indigo peak]

nope

I found an objc class that interfaces with the swift objects

[lethal kayak]

https://twitter.com/lukaseder/status/1591029722297008128?s=46&t=ZwDXjJx8JyLYue2qfbAHtg

Lukas Eder (@lukaseder)

Hey @elonmusk I bet you can’t buy JIRA

Likes

53826

Retweets

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Twitter · Nov 11, 2022, 11:27 AM

[naive kraken]

yeah the dylib you're trying to open has to be signed with the same team id as the appstore app you're trying to inject into

there is a script in the trollstore repo to generate a cert with a team id

there probably isn't one

or you will have to find it yourself

ipc stands for interprocess communication

and the sandbox deny message says network-outbound

if the issue was reaching the socket then it would have probably told you

[lime pivot]

if there's symbols you share between groups, you'd prob be best to move them to a .h you can import in each of those .x's to access them. for C functions/global vars, add extern so the compiler knows it's defined elsewhere

[hasty ruin]

step 1: split file into multiple files (i prefer keeping them in a Hooks directory)
step 2: edit Makefile XXXXX_FILES = Tweak.x to XXXXX_FILES = $(wildcard Hooks/*.x)

[lime pivot]

you'd need to write a %ctor in each file, since Logos only looks at one file at a time it won't know what exists in the other files

[lime pivot]

needs $(wildcard) but otherwise yep this

[hasty ruin]

ah yeah, fixed

[hexed bolt]

Seems that this is the piece i was missing, thanks)

[hexed knot]

@primal perch @lethal kayak

[indigo peak]

it’s returning 0x0 for dlopen on /usr/lib/system/libdyld.dylib

[neon jungle]

Do you guys know if I can use xcode for ios 15.0 on big sur?
I'm trying to get a old mac

perhaps 2014 mac mini

?

[naive kraken]

thats weird

[indigo peak]

[trolldecrypt] OPAINJECT HERE WE ARE
[trolldecrypt] RUNNING AS 0
[trolldecrypt] Got task port 5635 for pid 930!
[trolldecrypt] Got aslr slide: 0x170
[trolldecrypt] [prepareForMagic] done, ropLoop: 0x1A080BED0
[trolldecrypt] Created bootstrap thread... now waiting on finish
[trolldecrypt] bootstrap done!
[trolldecrypt] INFO: failed to get thread state when checking for pthread 6659: (os/kern) object terminated
[trolldecrypt] [injectDylibViaRop] created remote pthread, port: 6915
[trolldecrypt] [sandboxFixup] applying sandbox extension! sandbox_extension_consume: 0x1F17BE190
[trolldecrypt] Set state for arbitary call
[trolldecrypt] Starting task...
[trolldecrypt] [sandboxFixup] sandbox_extension_consume returned 1
[trolldecrypt] [injectDylibViaRop] Preparation done, now injecting!
[trolldecrypt] [injectDylibViaRop] libDyldAddr: 0x1808DE000
[trolldecrypt] [injectDylibViaRop] dlopen: 0x1808DFE08
[trolldecrypt] Set state for arbitary call
[trolldecrypt] Starting task...
[trolldecrypt] [injectDylibViaRop] dlopen returned 0x0

[naive kraken]

check console for dyld messages

[indigo peak]

im getting different results everytime i run it now

hmm

[indigo peak]

nothing

only dyld message is the libdyldaddr

[naive kraken]

well then chances are dlopen is not even getting called

[indigo peak]

wtf

thats weird

[indigo peak]

the script would need to be ran on runtime right

like when you go to decrypt the app, the app spawns a process that runs the script?

im still not entirely sure even what the script does/is for

or even like, how to use lmfao

[naive kraken]

what? you need to sign the dylib with same team id as the app store app

and for that you need to gen a cert with that teamid and sign the dylib with it

[indigo peak]

but since the appstore app is a different one every time you run it, youd need to run the script before you decrypt the app, right

ok the script doesnt even work

i somehow broke that

Generating a RSA private key
..........................+++++
....+++++
writing new private key to 'root_key.pem'
-----
Generating a RSA private key
..........................+++++
...............+++++
writing new private key to 'codeca_key.pem'
-----
x509: Unrecognized flag copy_extensions
x509: Use -help for summary.

[vivid dew]

troll

[unkempt raft]

hi. I'm trying to add a map from MapKit, but whenever I add keys to remove sandbox, the map turns gray.

anyone else had this issue?

[indigo peak]

yes i know how to fix it

🚃

[indigo peak]

let midnightchips release their location spoofer so i can release mine and then you can release yours

[unkempt raft]

🚃

[unkempt raft]

@indigo peak lol fixed

[indigo peak]

nooooo

[unkempt raft]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/688121419980341282/1040014695781896242/image0.gif

so many location spoofers

but they can't hide the reality of us living in moms' basements

[hasty ruin]

this'll be the fourth trollstore location spoofer

[unkempt raft]

first one in swiftui

[indigo peak]

no its not

its not the first

relocateme is

[unkempt raft]

really

[indigo peak]

yes

and it was made before that

relocateme was a tweak for ios 14

that i updated to be for 15

[unkempt raft]

you're right

[indigo peak]

like almost a month ago

so i have 2 location spoofers

1 i made, 1 i contributed to

[zenith hatch]

@unkempt raft wow

[tepid olive]

does amfid cache code signatures

[zenith hatch]

idk

[snow python]

RelocateMe is done just waiting for chariz to support linking new devices outside of zebra and silgo lol

[faint stag]

isn’t that what a trustcache is for lol

not exactly a code signature but the end result is the same, skipping validation if something matches the cache

When a binary is executed (whether as part of spawning a new process or mapping executable code into an existing process), its code directory is extracted and hashed. If the resulting hash is found in the trust cache, the executable mappings created for the binary will be granted platform privileges—that is, they may possess any entitlement and execute without further verification as to the authenticity of the signature

[tepid olive]

that wasn't it

i had a moment of doubt lol

ur right

[tepid olive]

@naive kraken injector :)

[naive kraken]

nice

btw I forgot to mention, I think at least substitute does some extra stuff so the dylibs get loaded after all frameworks have finished loading

but I could be wrong

[tepid olive]

i doubt that’ll be a problem for me

[vivid dew]

trolling successful

[nocturne bobcat]

do you have to disable the nx bit on a jb'd phone

(assuming a use application where youd need it otherwise, not just for no reason)

or could you just use entitlements

[ocean raptor]

What's the nx bit

[nocturne bobcat]

no execute bit

disallows you to execute data stored in memory

[ocean raptor]

You mean W^X?

[nocturne bobcat]

yeah

i guess its under a different name for ios

[ocean raptor]

Well W^X just means that memory can't be writable and executable

There are entitlements that get around that, which is how JavascriptCore and lldb/debugserver work

[nocturne bobcat]

yeah i figured

thank you

[primal perch]

https://tenor.com/view/piran-f-bladee-white-women-gif-18873461

[snow python]

Oh

[hasty ruin]

(We know)

[tepid olive]

hi

[solid sinew]

help ☹️☹️

[exotic mantle]

!t chimeramoment

[faint lion]

Hey @solid sinew, have a look at this!

chimeramoment

Chimera's success rate is poor and can take multiple attempts to successfully jailbreak, especially on older devices.

Tips to increase success rate

• Update to the latest Chimera version (ideally 1.6.4 or later)
• Make sure the device is charged above 20%
• Reboot after a failed attempt
• Wait 60 seconds before jailbreaking after a reboot/failed attempt
• Turn low power mode off
• Put your device in front of an air conditioner or fan

Added by stkc#6525 | Used 397 times · Oct 5, 2021, 12:13 AM

[nocturne bobcat]

is it possible to build directly on ios or is that a lost cause and i have to use xcode

asking about compiling with clang on ios btw

[indigo peak]

You can compile projects on device using theos if that’s what you’re asking

[nocturne bobcat]

been meaning to look into theos, i guess now's the time

[indigo peak]

theos is great for people like me, no mac but still want to develop

i compile tweaks & apps on windows and install them onto my phone

[nocturne bobcat]

sounds awesome, getting it rn

[nocturne bobcat]

-Werror 😭

[ocean raptor]

No need for theos

[nocturne bobcat]

what would work too?

[ocean raptor]

clang

Install it from procursus

And it should work out of the box

Just like it would on Mac or Linux

[nocturne bobcat]

im on unc0ver but i have clang

[tepid olive]

https://github.com/palera1n/palera1n/blob/main/binaries/Kernel15Patcher.ios @native dune is this open source

[native dune]

@crisp frost

[solid sinew]

Doing it more about 100

[nocturne bobcat]

' in YAML file 'xxxx/theos/sdks/iPhoneOS14.5.sdk/usr/lib/libc++.tbd' for architecture armv7
Not signing file

how do i make it not

[ocean raptor]

Don't build for armv7

[nocturne bobcat]

yeah i just realized that

its still doing it tho

' in YAML file '..../theos/sdks/iPhoneOS14.5.sdk/usr/lib/libc++.tbd' for architecture arm64
Not signing file

[issue was sdk]

[tepid olive]

nvm it’s just checkra1n kpf

[native dune]

yeah checkra1n kpf modified to spit out a patched kernel

[tepid olive]

loss

[crisp frost]

yes

[indigo peak]

I just read compile on device and was like ‘theos’

[indigo peak]

Would it be cool if I released my spoofer or nah
Bc I don’t wanna take your “capital” on locationspoofers before you can even make money off of it

[tepid olive]

is it me or every time you make something someone else is already making an alternative

[indigo peak]

well it really wasn’t an alternative because there was no spoofer for iOS 15 when I made it

so the only alternative I’ve made was gameseagull

[indigo peak]

I also like this developer, so I’m asking for permission before hand

[tepid olive]

based

[snow python]

You are 100% allowed to release yours. Please don’t think I was preventing you from releasing yours! I’m sure yours is fantastic, I just have a responsibility to those who already paid for it to be able to use it on TrollStore

[pearl sail]

You aren’t allowed to make competition please cease and desist

[tepid olive]

https://github.com/checkra1n/PongoOS/blob/master/checkra1n/kpf/main.c looks like dyld hooking is possible

i just need krw

@native dune @crisp frost could one of you test libkrw on palera1n

shouldn’t be too hard

it’s a massive hassle for me to jailbreak with palera1n atm

if you’re using checkra1n kpf it should technically work but who knows

[faint stag]

wouldn't they just patch tfp0 back in like checkra1n does at that point

[native dune]

it patches tfp0 back in yea

[tepid olive]

they probably do

but ios 15 might break it?

[tepid olive]

shoutout to developers that use the objc runtime instead of the substrate api

[nocturne bobcat]

is it possible to run a compiled .app with commandline args

i did uicache and everything

its there but i cant pass args

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/86702/controlling-ios-apps-via-command-line

comments on the answer say it can be done but dont say how

[ocean raptor]

Not from springboard

[nocturne bobcat]

damn 😔

so ill need to pass the args each build

where would i find crash logs

i have cr4shed and it didnt show any for my app

cause id be looking in the terminal but i cant run it from the terminal

or just logs in general

im thinking NSLog

i have no idea how to call that from C++ though

im good w c++ but i know nothing about objective-c

[faint timber]

os_log with default log interface

C code can easily call from c++ without dealing with mm

[nocturne bobcat]

yeah oslog

[primal perch]

[turbid fjord]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/673617846277767168/831152748883607603/FrImposter.png

[primal perch]

sussy

[vivid dew]

@carmine patio happy birthday big man

[hasty ruin]

@carmine patio @vivid dew happy birthday big men

[rain falcon]

[hasty ruin]

[turbid fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-amogus-twerk-meme-gif-21038828

[naive kraken]

it's not good to rely on this though cause KTRR will prevent it

so it will only work with checkm8 based stuff

[primal perch]

TRUE

[primal perch]

[tepid olive]

can’t fugu15 bypass that

regardless idc it’s an experiment

[naive kraken]

no

[vale oxide]

What can i do with fugu

As a user

[naive kraken]

is this #development or #user?

[vale oxide]

If i wanted to look at it

[hasty ruin]

eat it

actually no it’s poisonous

probably don’t eat fugu

[naive kraken]

you can't do anything with it really

[vale oxide]

Wait so what does fugu even do

[ocean raptor]

Nothing for you

[primal perch]

uploads gorn to your consciousness

[gentle grove]

what's that

wait

that's that one game

isn't it

[vale oxide]

I dont care what it does for me, what does it do for you

[gentle grove]

Wtf

[ocean raptor]

Who asked

[vale oxide]

Me

[rapid mirage]

are any carplay headunits easily modifiable or helpful for dev in any way over any other?

[snow python]

That makes so much sense

[tepid olive]

You could read the README

It tells you

In all Fugu projects (13-15)

[tepid olive]

also

is ktrr on all phones

[primal perch]

all phones based on A10 and later

[naive kraken]

older devices have KPP but it's the same

Generally writing to kernel TEXT section is a no no

[tepid olive]

okay so what are my options

i can’t bind mount a new dyld over the current one right?

[frank fossil]

Or just https://github.com/zhuowei/iOS-run-macOS-executables-tools/blob/main/dyldloader/dyldloader.c

[primal perch]

@rain falcon wtf

[rain falcon]

suicide

[rain falcon]

💀

[faint stag]

@gentle grove

funny method

[gentle grove]

bruh have you ever heard of an early return

[primal perch]

or goto

[snow python]

Tf is this

[native dune]

and i thought my code was bad

no offense

it’s java so it’s bad anyway

[gentle grove]

if (!isValidSymbol(split transaction[1])) {
    System.out.println("blah blah");
    return false;
}

[snow python]

C# for the win

[gentle grove]

if !str.contains(blahblah)

[primal perch]

if (boba)
stfu()

jk

trol

[snow python]

Gottem

[primal perch]

oh yea

[gentle grove]

wtf

[gentle grove]

What did you say

[primal perch]

.tar with a d

[gentle grove]

[snow python]

Tf

[gentle grove]

frcoal

don't get banned again

[snow python]

Why is that word banned?

[primal perch]

ableism

[gentle grove]

because mustard is bad

[snow python]

Rly?

[gentle grove]

no

mustard is ok

[snow python]

Oh good because I like it in my sandwich

[primal perch]

kek

[gentle grove]

fr

my history teacher says that word in normal context

to slow something down

[hasty ruin]

i say it when someone is being one

[gentle grove]

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/14/23458247/elon-musk-fires-engineer-correcting-twitter

[hasty ruin]

I saw that

[faint stag]

fixed it

[native dune]

thats much better

except this there shouldnt be another indent

@hasty ruin need gta car tracker ipa

fr

[hasty ruin]

smh I’m in bed

Lemme grab my laptop

[primal perch]

why in bed its like 7

[hasty ruin]

fucking leg cramped bc I folded myself in half to grab the laptop from bed

[native dune]

@hasty ruin it’s fine you can give it to me whenever lol

i’m about to go to sleep anyway was just reminding you i want it

[faint stag]

lol i am doing work for someone else simply because i know i'm capable and it's not so boring

[native dune]

[primal perch]

also idk how bool types are stored in java but if they’re not all the same value it will fail

bitwise &

probably 1

[hasty ruin]

@native dune tryna do it now
made a new apple id but i need to 'set it up for app store'

whatever that means

[faint stag]

all of those are booleans

[native dune]

it just wants you to put in a card but there’s a none option somewhere

i think

apple moment

[primal perch]

yea im just pointing out youre using bitwise comparisons instead of logical ones but they both work idk if you meant to

[gentle grove]

bruh what

why dont you just put the return false right after the System.out.println

then you arent checking every single condition a second time to see whether to return false

and you cant forget it easily

[hasty ruin]

@native dune

[native dune]

tysm

[gentle grove]

if (!str.contains(":")) {
    System.out.println!("Invalid transaction: " + str);
    return false;
}

and that for all the other ones

[native dune]

going to put palera1n loader as an OTA

[hasty ruin]

the "done" button on the appstore login screen dismisses it and cancels the login???

fuck you tim

[native dune]

because theoretically

theoretically

it should ota install on any version

if uh

amfi is psyched

patched

[faint stag]

i’m intentionally checking each one so i can print for all lol

[gentle grove]

thats really cursed

[faint stag]

how?

in the end the transaction is invalid but other parts of it might be

[gentle grove]

usually you fail quick when writing code

just in general

instead of validating every single part

youd want a different method to validate

or differnt program even

[faint stag]

well the intention here is not have to run it (a maximum of) 4 times after modifying input to be valid

[gentle grove]

usually its not worth the extra code/hassle/risk of logic error

but its ok

plus what are the chances someone gets all 4 things invalid repeatedly

[hasty ruin]

you underestimate users stupidity

[primal perch]

@hasty ruin

[hasty ruin]

[faint stag]

look, the sample input is kinda cursed
so you’d be working with a lot of them

[gentle grove]

theyll get annoyed b something else if theyre that dumb

[faint stag]

GOOG MSFT AMZN AAPL GS MMM UPS $$$ AMZN:issue:20000:$238 GS:issue:700:$9999.99 UPS:issue:5000:$5 GS:buy:50:$99 AMZN:sell:20:$400 GOOG:issue:600:$500 AMZN:buy:20:$200 MMM:issue:1000:$25 MSFT:issue:900:$1000 GOOG:sell:20:$550

(obviously it's not escaped cause windows is the default env)

but you get what i mean, multiple errors there and just ending on the first?

[gentle grove]

escaped?

[faint stag]

the dollar signs

[gentle grove]

so you have to manually edit it anyways?

[faint stag]

again, sample input

$$$ is like EOF for what's before it
then that one method is for what comes after it. you'd be looping over each argument and passing it to the method as a string

[kindred portal]

Question: if a tweak is closed source but free, would it be ethical to try decompile it and change a few values? I don’t have any intention of redistribution, I just want to modify some things that I can’t in the settings haha

[faint stag]

you don't decompile, you disassemble
and even then, to make your own prefs you would probably have to rewrite the tweak a bit

what tweak are we talking about anyway

[kindred portal]

Oh I don’t mean like add my own preferences, I literally just mean, if I have to push a button 3 times for something to make it 5 and not be able to change it or anything

Sentinel
Basically I just want to make it so you have to push the volume button a few more times as a layer of like
Not really true security but confusion

[faint stag]

i mean yeah that's doable but the problem is finding the function

[kindred portal]

Yeppp

It will be a learning experience for sure if I’m even successful haha

I would change it to like pressing a combination of buttons to wake it up but that would throw things off that I don’t know how to fix easily and I wouldn’t have a clue where to even start

[thorny marsh]

amazing idea

[glacial matrix]

Worst part is they do because of the first two ifs in the function do return early

[gentle grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/821743100657270876/1042031428050890762/20221115_110026.jpg

[shut harness]

dont forget the part where elon disabled the 2fa shit

and now like. a quarter of twitters userbase is locked out

[zenith hatch]

diamon

oh wrong dhcannl

[hasty ruin]

[zenith hatch]

idk

[faint stag]

i hate it here

the code only works with int[] but not String[]

[faint timber]

I tried playing minecraft, I just don't know what to do, the stuff that I can do I get bored or its too much effor to do

[faint stag]

the problem

if (args[i] == "$$$")

should be (for strings)

if (args[i].equals("$$$"))

comparisons are hard

[tardy narwhal]

if you just need the first index of the desired occurrence, you can just use indexOf and check the return value

[faint stag]

well with the instructions i was given, it didn't say if i could import other stuff or not so i haven't so far

[tardy narwhal]

don't need an import for it, check with your Java version though

[faint stag]

java.Util.Arrays is required for that

[tardy narwhal]

rip

[glacial matrix]

Make a flat map in creative mode. Then play around with red stone. It’s pretty neat when you can build logic gates and higher level pc structures

[tardy narwhal]

fwiw with string comparisons, please use equals

[glacial matrix]

True

[gentle grove]

Why not use it

[faint stag]

well i am now lol

also... 🫤

[gentle grove]

what

[faint stag]

well i have to define a maximum size for the array

[gentle grove]

or use a dynamically sized array

[faint stag]

implementing that is extra complexity

[gentle grove]

Just use ArrayList

[faint stag]

yeah i'm not allowed to

[gentle grove]

Why tf

[nocturne bobcat]

what are they

i have dynamic-codesigning and dynamic-code-generation but it seems to just ignore them

as a matter of fact i added com.apple.security.app-sandbox and it still asks to be sandboxed

[nocturne bobcat]

it looks lke i need TRACE_ME but its odd that it wouldnt work on its own with entitlements and a jb

[tepid olive]

#development message

[gentle grove]

#development message

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1018399790347862087/1042233405393350727/image.png

java users when they have an allergy to primitive types

[primal perch]

everything is a uint64_t

gigachad c users

[lime pivot]

boolen

[gentle grove]

*void

wait

void*

[primal perch]

uintptr_t

[gentle grove]

u64

usize

[primal perch]

mut *u8

*mut u8

[ocean raptor]

uint134217728_t

[primal perch]

boolen

[vivid dew]

wtf

@shut stag give me verified

[tepid olive]

@shut stag verify me and i’ll release fugu15 with tweaks

not joking

[indigo peak]

no

[cloud yacht]

Verify me and I'll have a verifed badge

[primal perch]

[cloud yacht]

[hasty ruin]

[sinful light]

[rose wren]

What does this have to do with the socio economic problems of the world

[primal perch]

you

also capt when arm64

[faint stag]

false

[kindred portal]

You may know of http://clients3.google.com/generate_204 for connection checks, but another lesser known HTTP status code generation page exists: http://clients3.google.com/generate_404

[hasty ruin]

okay

👍

[vivid dew]

ok

[grim sparrow]

Pictured:
Left: OnBoardingKit
Right: My open source recreation

@restive ether its pretty close right?

[restive ether]

looks right to me

[grim sparrow]

honestly idk if it would be possible to tell which is which

[restive ether]

I wouldn't have known if you didn't say anything

[grim sparrow]

good enough for me™️

[unkempt raft]

send link please

looks hella good

[grim sparrow]

I’ll upload it tomorrow

I’m just adding buttons and shit

[unkempt raft]

👍

[faint timber]

ok, so python question:

I have a big list of objects

whats the best way of matching a sequence of properties in the list?

for example

for obj in obj_list:
if obj.a == xyz and next_obj.a = other_xyz and next_next_obj.a = other_other_xyz

@glacial matrix

[gentle grove]

how do you get next_obj

[glacial matrix]

Wut?

@faint timber What are you matching?

[faint timber]

lets just say for example .a is a string

so I'm matching strings from each object in the list

[glacial matrix]

To what?

[faint timber]

each index's string can be different

but I need 3 consecutive matches

[glacial matrix]

You can reduce the complexity of the question by getting all the strings first

[faint timber]

find an occurence of a list in a list?

string list in this case

[glacial matrix]

all_strings = [x.a for x in obj_list]

Then you have to see if any 3 subsequence of that matches a list you know

Itertools or more_itertools has to have a function that gives you a moving selection

@faint timber https://more-itertools.readthedocs.io/en/stable/api.html#more_itertools.sliding_window

You use that to get 3 elements at a time. Wrap with enumerate to get the index of the first one

Yes?

Another option is making a parser-like class that wraps the list. So you make a peek function that gets you the next index without moving the index. Like a look ahead. Then pop to shift over once. You’d use the pop’s item and the next two peeled elements to compare

You’d make the ifs separately to skip to the next index quicker

Or use two tuples to compare, instead of 3 comparisons

@faint timber yes?

Imma go sleep, hit me up in 7h

[vivid dew]

@last sierra happy birthday big man

[last sierra]

thanks

[cloud yacht]

@last sierra happy birthday

[tepid olive]

happy bday

[tepid olive]

@vivid dew happy birthday big man

[primal perch]

@vivid dew happy birthday big man

[undone nest]

@vivid dew happy birthday big man

[kindred portal]

@vivid dew happy birthday big man

[grim sparrow]

@unkempt raft added proper scaling for different device sizes

api is very simple

[unkempt raft]

looks sick

[unkempt raft]

pretty sure the button's height is a bit small?

seems off

[grim sparrow]

honestly it may be on the 14pm

[unkempt raft]

at least on notched devices

yea

[grim sparrow]

lemme scaleify that

[unkempt raft]

x1.5-x1.75

[restive ether]

sexy

[grim sparrow]

it works as a popover I guess

[turbid fjord]

Lorem ipsum deez nuts lmfao

Fr tho that looks damn well good.

port it to Apple Watch so we can use in watchtube

[grim sparrow]

Just need to figure out why it does this if you put in it a very large string

[turbid fjord]

Is the height of the title box thingy changing

I forgot to exact word tbh

[grim sparrow]

its being pressed against

[high citrus]

4 simulators at once, does it heat up the mac(book)?

[turbid fjord]

Weird

[grim sparrow]

not really lmao

its using hardly any power

[high citrus]

ah m2, my intel would turn into a rocket if I tried that

[grim sparrow]

the performance cores remain at 0% until I start typing in discord

[turbid fjord]

Discord is truly the best

[cloud yacht]

I'm actually curious how this could be adapted to work good on the watch

[high citrus]

In a program/website, where to show a shortcut list? (preferably without putting it behind its own shortcut lol)

Settings feels odd

[grim sparrow]

Apple doesn't even have native onboarding on watch iirc

well

it relies on it all being done on the phone

[cloud yacht]

Yes which is why I wonder how it would work if you did port it

[grim sparrow]

It could be ported very easily

that took too long

[grim sparrow]

@unkempt raft https://github.com/elihwyma/Onboarding

[unkempt raft]

starred

are there docs? @grim sparrow

[grim sparrow]

I'm uploading it now

[unkempt raft]

oh wait

[grim sparrow]

Theres Xcode docs if that makes sense

[unkempt raft]

oh

are you using swiftui or storyboards?

[grim sparrow]

programmatic UIKit

[unkempt raft]

[snow python]

My brother you can use UIKit with SwiftUI or storyboard

[grim sparrow]

I do need to add coder support I cannot lie

[tepid olive]

based

[unkempt raft]

100 UIViewRepresentables moment

[tepid olive]

i feel like this is the best place to ask this: will developing (not exploit finding or whatever) an ios 16 jb be a bit easier because of the experience gained from making an ios 15 jb?

[zenith hatch]

i do not understand what coder is

fr

[grim sparrow]

its so that objects can be serialised, with Coder and Decoder

Storyboards rely heavily on this

[zenith hatch]

ooo

makes sense

[grim sparrow]

NSCoding is the objc protocol of Codable

they're interchangable

i'm not sure if this is still the case but Codable used to just be a bridge to NSCoding on some devices

[zenith hatch]

i need to extend Color from swiftui to conform to codable

fr

[next wadi]

so this is kinda like a specific question but i could use ur guys' help

are there any like commands or things that you do that you do so often but are like really tedious

[gentle grove]

ls

[next wadi]

[gentle grove]

grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot --bootloader-id=GRUB

had to do this yesterday

grub update

oh yeah i guess it went ok because my pc booted today

didnt even think of that

[faint stag]

i used to use refind back when i had linux

[gentle grove]

L

[faint stag]

i mean it's nice to have something that can autodetect

instead of needing the uefi itself to pick usb to boot etc

[gentle grove]

wdym

i use grub because more feature support

it supports my setup

[tepid olive]

no u dont

[grim sparrow]

I agree

[tepid olive]

slay

[grim sparrow]

Fuck storyboards, all the homies hate storyboards

[tepid olive]

i’d rather use react

[lime pivot]

you, you're a coder

@ocean raptor did htop disappear from darwin-arm64?

[tepid olive]

procursus mac

[ocean raptor]

🤷‍♂️ I'll take a look. Make sure you aren't using a mirror again

[lime pivot]

lmao I'm not now

[ocean raptor]

it sure did

I do not know where it went

[lime pivot]

somehow I didn't even have it installed at all

when I can swear it would be one of the first things I'd think to install

[ocean raptor]

I have it installed on the server

but the server is kinda tied up building llvm right now

so it may be a while until I upload htop

[lime pivot]

heh

no worries

[upper mountain]

Anyone know where I can find XCode 14.0 beta 6

Download from Xcodereleases gives me 403

[ocean raptor]

Ask Nicolas in hack different

He's been archiving them all after apple took them down

[zenith hatch]

wait what

[ocean raptor]

Apple was taking down Xcode 14 betas

[zenith hatch]

oh

why

[tepid olive]

why would you keep them

[tepid olive]

server space

[nocturne bobcat]

im still trying to disable/bypass w^x on ios

i dont know what ios entitlements can do this, it is failing to allocate executable memory

and im jailbroken so i should be able to do it w/o jitterbug or altjit or what have you

[faint stag]

i can no longer trust shellcheck
since the file is actually valid

(had to reload vsc)

[restive ether]

https://github.com/ProcursusTeam/Procursus/blob/main/build_misc/entitlements/qemu-ios.xml try these

[nocturne bobcat]

hell yeah thank you

[restive ether]

any luck

[nocturne bobcat]

yeah it works

had to use ldid with it and it worked

[indigo peak]

3 things that need to be fixed

1. remove the %end on line 71 in Tweak.xm
   error: Tweak.xm:71: error: dangling %end

2. remove the @interface for UIColor in Tweak.h
   error: Tweak.h:3:1: error: duplicate interface definition for class 'UIColor'

3. for both interfaces (YTColorPalette & YTCommonColorPalette) you need to add the pageStyle property
   errors:
   Tweak.xm:5:14: error: property 'pageStyle' not found on object of type 'YTColorPalette *'
Tweak.xm:26:14: error: property 'pageStyle' not found on object of type 'YTCommonColorPalette *'

@fresh sparrow also, you have windows 11, why not use WSL? thats what i, and many other people use
https://theos.dev/docs/installation-linux

also question:

why not make the tweak target both youtube & youtube music

why have it on 2 separate tweaks

just saw that

you could make a check in a %ctor if you want

¯_(ツ)_/¯

@fresh sparrow

thats the youtube branch

gonna build music for you right now

for the youtube music branch, you can:

you dont need the Tweak.h file
reasons:

1. you dont need the UIColor interface because of the duplicate interface definition for class 'UIColor' error

2. you dont need the @interface's for YTColorPalette & YTCommonColorPalette because you're not referencing any properties or class methods

you can just delete the Tweak.h file and replace the first line in Tweak.xm to be #import <UIKit/UIKit.h>

other than the duplicate interface error, it compiles fine

youtube-music branch:

no i dont

[harsh needle]

is there a way to attach lldb on a codesigned binary? its getting 0x000005 when trying to get the mach port

[faint timber]

You can attach to anything except platform binaries

[tepid olive]

yo im tryna get rid of error code 2503 and 2502 when installing python can anyone help please dm me

[meager rapids]

Hey

Someone knows why this is happening?

[ocean raptor]

🤓

[livid ridge]

Are there plans to make the remaining closed source component of the taurine jailbreak open sourced?

I.e., jailbreakd and the various payloads

I know jbd may still have a few private techniques (like tl demotion via the fcntl method) but surely the payload can be made open source

@plain python

Even if not, ty so much for keeping the majority of taurine open source

[faint viper]

Hello there, does anyone have any idea how to block certain connections like a firewall and generate a tweak to inject into an ipa?

[timid furnace]

is there any reason to use #include over #import

[primal perch]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/439662/what-is-the-difference-between-import-and-include-in-objective-c

[timid furnace]

yea i saw that

just wondering if there would be any actually relevant edge case

ig i'll just go with trial and error

[primal perch]

well its not standard c so he's right to give you a 0

irrelevant, #import isnt in the c standard

you cant let your opinion get in the way of correct code

well, you can if you want to lose points

[timid furnace]

lmao

alr then

how did you manage that

¯_(ツ)_/¯

what in the world are you doing

[primal perch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1030558515300946025/1033011516263366728/cxxc.gif

[cloud yacht]

Just like rubber ducky it to me

Cause there's no other way I can help

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging

So can you find another method of communication, or a way to start the bootstrap sever early?