development

[primal perch]

as a workaround though just put all your resources in a .c with (sadly) global variables and then import

or a global function with a local static

get_vertex_shader_001_bytes();

[faint timber]

TFW xcode 13 still lacks c++ 20 abis

[tardy narwhal]

the true 10x programmer way

[misty cradle]

Oh true

[lime pivot]

you'd think he'd prove his innocence by just removing the code and moving on with his life, shrug

now this is cool

[gentle grove]

am i doing java right

[snow python]

No, you are using an actual ide when you could be using vscode with 130+ plugins

[silver rampart]

project compile times in shambles

[tepid olive]

wow

[tacit spade]

does anyone know how that hello animation during setup works?

[pearl sail]

just gotta do a little rebuilding

rust linux kernel eta s0n

[tepid olive]

is there a way (when hooking a jailed app) to detect if the clipboard currently has text from the current app or a different one?

basically trying to make a tweak to stop pastes from other apps from happening automatically when not user initiated, which is super annoying especially on ios 16

looking at you chrome and spotify

chrome even tries to read your clipboard in the background while you’re using another app

[restive ether]

the ios 16 prompt is awful whoever designed that should feel bad

[turbid fjord]

Facts
The fact it comes to nearly every time I press paste is annoying too

Even to copy from my MacBook using handoff brings the pop up too

[gentle grove]

does that just get 4 random bytes

[primal perch]

clang and gcc are slow as balls anyway so it probably wont be much different

[gentle grove]

are they though

[primal perch]

ya

[gentle grove]

lies

[silver rampart]

are they though

[lime pivot]

we "fixed" them being slow by throwing more cores at the problem I guess

can't believe I used to dev on a 1.1GHz dual-core i5 MacBook Air

[silver rampart]

is there even a reference for what "fast" is in this case

[lime pivot]

cannot accept any less than an i9/Ryzen 9/Apple Silicon Pro/Max at this point

no clue where the slow thing comes from

not sure how you'd even benchmark that a compiler is slow, what would the reference of a fast C/C++ compiler be if they're supposedly all slow

[tepid olive]

Dw, I’m there rn

[lime pivot]

still a mighty machine for getting stuff done on 😉

[tepid olive]

But why tf is an i7 dual core

Why intel, why

[lime pivot]

back before AMD gave Intel the kick in the butt they needed, mobile i7 was actually pretty much a higher-binned i5 with hyperthreading enabled

[tepid olive]

The sad truth 🥲

[lime pivot]

so you technically get 2 more cores, I guess

not actual cores of course

[tepid olive]

Isn’t threading slower than having 4 cores?

[lime pivot]

definitely

[tepid olive]

It also idles at 1.11GHz

[lime pivot]

it's better than not having it, but still 2 CPUs pretending to be 4 CPUs will never be better than actually having 4 CPUs

[tepid olive]

Obviously

I wonder what cores Vbox chooses

[rocky token]

Some of these IDEs are heavy af too

Even android studio takes a hot minute to load a new project on my desktop pc

I only have an AMD 5600X so there’s room for improvement

[lime pivot]

I didn't notice a real difference between IntelliJ and Android Studio, shrug

[plain python]

at one point I did iOS dev on a Celeron 2955U chromebook with 2 GB RAM and 16 GB SSD

[lime pivot]

you enjoyed torturing yourself 🙃

[chilly plover]

How developers can make tweaks in ipa when we cant decompile/extract source code?

[tepid olive]

is there a way to make tweaks in swift

[night rover]

orion

[tepid olive]

ok!! thanks 🙂

[lime pivot]

https://orion.theos.dev

[zenith hatch]

is that what macos calls logical cpu cores

[zenith hatch]

what year?

[lime pivot]

2013

[lime pivot]

yep, well that's the general term for it

logical cores = physical cores * threads per physical core

[lime pivot]

I somewhat regret buying this because I got the 128GB/4GB RAM (!) base model, then only about 1-2 months later Apple released the 2014 which I think was the one that upgraded to Broadwell and bumped the base model to 8GB

2015 was a minor spec bump of that, staying in the Broadwell platform, and "2017" was really the 2015 with a slightly different CPU because Intel stopped making the specific models Apple were using

so I got pretty unlucky

but hey oh well, some old guy bought it from me and I'm sure it's having an easier life now than when I owned it

[hexed knot]

Last night i had the strangest dream

I upgraded my macbooks cpu

[lime pivot]

wouldn't that be cool if you could still do that

[zenith hatch]

ah

oke cool

[silver rampart]

@lime pivot what's the tldr on current best way to respring?

I remember seeing a blog post from you somewhere but cant find it

it was in the channel pins please ignore me

[hexed knot]

sbreload

[silver rampart]

I've still had issues with it entirely breaking springboard for me

other bootstrap had? has? an issue with iirc triggering an sbreload during another sbreload

breaks all programs

like if you trigger one while it's still starting up and you can see lockscreen UI, but it's not actually done respringing yet

bc alternative build system is fast enough that you can build+install, notice a small issue, correct, then build+install a new fix before the last sbreload finishes properly

probably not difficult to repro on a properly set up theos either, just happened enough with mine i had to change the default behavior

[restive ether]

https://adamdemasi.com/2019/08/25/respring-the-right-way-followup.html

[lime pivot]

alternative build system on the other jailbreak

[indigo peak]

@grave sparrow for stumble guys, did you decrypt the entire ipa for me

or just the binary

[zenith hatch]

fr

controversial opinion i hate objective c

[hexed knot]

Not really controversial

But also not right

[rocky token]

Man I hate learning UI. This class about android is kicking my ass.

Doesn’t help that it’s 2 am

[indigo peak]

now did you send me the whole ipa or just the binary

bc i can onyl find the binary

interesting

i tried

i didnt find

this banger tho

[zenith hatch]

gm

[hexed knot]

Setter, but just do both thats what i used to do

[twilit jungle]

Depends on situation. Mostly you can get away with getter, but there are odd cases where some classes use the underlying ivar in some methods and property to read in others.

Setter would be better in that case.

There are also cases where you may want to avoid setters, like cases where setters that store the data to permanent storage which would have side effects in non-jailbreak mode.

[misty cradle]

better to store permanently, tweaks while in jailed 💯

[primal perch]

[hasty ruin]

[rose wren]

[native dune]

[lime pivot]

[main apex]

[hexed knot]

[native dune]

actually, how does the appstore uicache app store apps? im assuming it uses a tool similar to uicache?

[hexed knot]

It doesnt

They just show up

Because app store is how god intended you install apps

[native dune]

maybe installd does it

[restive ether]

pretty sure that’s how anemone works also

(which is why it broke on 14)

there’s some research yet to be done to make uicache better on 14

[plain python]

It does something similar to modern uicache /cc @restive ether

I had documentation for it in 2019 but uh the docs never saw the light of day before I lost them

[restive ether]

but didn’t some stuff change in ios 14, hence why anemone doesn’t work

so it could work better on 14 at least, could probably apply it to 15 also

[native dune]

yeah because i know anemone messed with uicache to get it to persist

which is pretty cool

[plain python]

Yep and that’s how new uicache happened too

[primal perch]

but didn’t some stuff change in ios 14, hence why anemone doesn’t work
so it could work better on 14 at least, could probably apply it to 15 also

[restive ether]

you:

[primal perch]

you:

[restive ether]

pepega

[tepid olive]

Hey guys! I tethered downgrade my iPhone 7 using sunst0rm from iOS 15.6 to iOS 14.8 and after successfully downgrading I don’t boot to OS, but checkm8 exploit don’t working after downgrade. DFU mode not PWNed. Why??? I flashed latest signed iOS via iTunes for fix my device and DFU exploit not worked for me… Why?? Maybe USB driver issue? I use Windows for PWN DFU and guest VMware MacOS for use sunst0rm tool

Later I try using Ubuntu for PWN DFU and flash generated sunst0rm images. But this situation really interested, DFU PWNing worked before downgrading iOS…

And what different pwning DFU using gaster and default ipwndfu? Why pwning results for this two methods is different??

[vivid dew]

https://twitter.com/hourly_shitpost/status/1556369607140593664

🕐HOURLY🕑 shitpost (@hourly_shitpost)

https://t.co/RVezaEBu12

Likes

60200

Retweets

7545

▶ Play video

Twitter · Aug 7, 2022, 8:00 PM

[restive ether]

i would never use *67 for this

i want them to know it’s me

[primal perch]

[vivid dew]

ok.

[primal perch]

ok.

https://tenor.com/view/goof-penguinz0it-was-just-a-goof-gif-22331811

2073600

[vivid dew]

aough ough ogh ogh ogh ogh

[primal perch]

[lime pivot]

🤨 I didn’t realise that gets pushed into the feed lmao

nah intentional

I remembered github has followers so I looked at mine and followed people I recognised

nope

[turbid fjord]

Rude.

/s

GM tho

[lime pivot]

gm

oh loll

I didn’t catch onto that

[tepid olive]

how i can install wsl in win7

https://www.codegrepper.com/code-examples/shell/wsl+for+windows+7

i see this

no theos for win7?

ya i tried

didnt

no more i guess support only old SDKs

i remember

[zenith hatch]

[misty cradle]

where the fuck do i find ToS for digital products

i need a terms of service and privacy policy

[crude swallow]

did that happen

[grim sparrow]

No lol

[crude swallow]

wait you take that thing?

[grim sparrow]

Why are you reading very old chat

[crude swallow]

because it's entertaining

[pearl sail]

like when I do meth

[crude swallow]

nah

[hexed knot]

Why are you replying to years old chats

[primal perch]

if they cut objc they’ll have to cut every app store app

bc they all use uikit or foundation

[pearl sail]

swiftui supremacy

[hexed knot]

If they cut objc they’ll have to rewrite ios

[hasty ruin]

this is untrue

[grim sparrow]

Shut

[hasty ruin]

[primal perch]

[weary heath]

Hey

[rigid gate]

hi

[pearl sail]

your mum gay

true

die.

[lime pivot]

a lawyer

[lime pivot]

I’m sure you’ve already gone through this but if you need this, the Windows 10 upgrade is still free if you download and run setup.exe

otherwise if you’re looking for something newer than we support with Cygwin then consider dual booting a Linux distro, or running it in something like VirtualBox

[tepid olive]

@lime pivot since i have 2009 pc i tried win10 linuxmint lubuntu all was slow . anyway thanks

[lime pivot]

do you have an SSD in this machine?

if not that will bring some extra life to it and make it more usable for slightly longer

[primal perch]

false

[tepid olive]

anyway sideload ipa from win7?

[tepid olive]

nope

[lime pivot]

I'd strongly recommend getting a used one

[tepid olive]

okay thanks they r a bit expensive but thanks

[lime pivot]

new would be better since they have limited life (wear cycles) but it's a 13 year old laptop, I wouldn't worry about lifespan so much heh

[tepid olive]

do u know abt this

[lime pivot]

if you can't get Sideloadly or AltServer working then there's probably no good solution

[tepid olive]

sad

sideloadly errors and altstore win10+

[lime pivot]

maybe an older version of Sideloadly could work, but it depends in the end whether it uses a Python version that's supposed to work on 7

I don't think Python 3.8 does and that's what it's trying to load

[tepid olive]

let me install it maybe its gonna work

thanks bro

🙂

[lime pivot]

looks like 3.8 is actually the last version to support 7. it should work…

[lime pivot]

do you not have windows 7 SP1?

right click Computer --> Properties, that should tell you if it's SP1 or not

[tepid olive]

its sp1

[lime pivot]

might need to install a few more updates you're missing

check windows update, see if anything shows up

[tepid olive]

it says could not seach

anyway thanks bro. also i love your repo

[lime pivot]

ugh stupid Microsoft

try installing this http://www.microsoft.com/download/details.aspx?familyid=42fdab9d-2513-46eb-9082-68ba98ba4647

[tepid olive]

it found one ,updating

[lime pivot]

here's the full list of updates you have to install actually https://www.reddit.com/r/windows7/comments/lnobhu/fix_update_error_80072efe_on_new_installations_of/

[tepid olive]

better to update 8.1 lol

[lime pivot]

honestly, yeah you'll have less issues and it's still supported for a tiny bit longer

[tepid olive]

is wsl working on win 8.1?

[tepid olive]

damn

[lilac juniper]

hey does anyone know why I can't get MobileLoader to load anything into mediaserverd?

i assume its cus of get-task-allow: false but i really just have no idea

if i can get this to work i'm pretty sure I can get ffmpeg camera working

[rocky token]

Man I spent way to much time making a simple pedometer app for android just to realize I can’t test it without a real device

[hexed knot]

Can u not simulate a shake on adb

[hasty ruin]

idiot

only time anyone was annoyed by cydia not being on their device

[turbid fjord]

True

Only capt

[zenith hatch]

anyway thanks bro. also i love your repo

[rocky token]

You can but SENSOR_STEP_COUNT is never available

The sensor is null after initializing it

[gentle grove]

anyone know how i can fix this error?

any way i can force install without uninstalling

or something

or if i can just somehow force uninstall

this didnt work either

[zenith hatch]

just install it

manually

[gentle grove]

but then i'd like to get it removed from homebrew

so it isn't sitting there "installed" but not actually installed

[zenith hatch]

idk

try making a file or directory at the path to make it happy

ez

[gentle grove]

doesnt work

just more errors

how do i create a file at /usr/bin/idea

it's not permitted

[zenith hatch]

idk

[restive ether]

brew experience

[gentle grove]

yeah

idk who to ask

[restive ether]

also i think /usr/bin is locked

cause of ssv

can’t remember

[rose wren]

Brew users

[zenith hatch]

i have never had issues with brew

except it being slow as fuck

[serene ridge]

yeah /usr/bin is off limits

[gentle grove]

then how was the file ever there in the first place

or why is it looking there

[restive ether]

that cask probably hasn’t been updated for big sur

or whenever they added SSV idk

or they didn’t patch said project to just use a different directory

[serene ridge]

/usr/bin is ro anyways

cant even remount the rootfs anymore

[gentle grove]

im pretty sure i've updated it tons of times since big sur

[serene ridge]

Don’t use brew

[gentle grove]

#development message

[wicked summit]

import yulkhooker as yh

@yh.hook("UIView", "-layoutSubviews")
def layoutSubviewsHook(orig):
        print("message")
        orig()

now someone write yulkhooker

[serene ridge]

/var doesn't exist

[indigo peak]

PLEASEEE

[wicked summit]

bruh it doesn't make any sense though

how would that work

[hasty ruin]

transpile

or copy what objective script does (idk what)

[indigo peak]

transpile

[wicked summit]

How do you transpile something like print

Or achieve [[UIView alloc] init]

[hasty ruin]

write objc code within python comments

then remove the #

[vivid dew]

python is written in c

[wicked summit]

But it lacks C features compared to other languages like Swift

[vivid dew]

not true

[wicked summit]

Use function pointers in python

[vivid dew]

you can just write a c module and expose it to python

[wicked summit]

Sure

That's fair

[vivid dew]

https://docs.python.org/3/library/ctypes.html#callback-functions

you can just wrap your python function in a c function pointer

[primal perch]

use dn

[lilac juniper]

lets goooo

ty for the advice! i think maybe i needed to do some filter changing?

my biggest issue was getting nothing out of the syslog so I ended up just logging to files

[lime pivot]

that’s protected by SIP, you want /usr/local/bin

it uses /opt/Caskroom as its database, so you can delete the intellij-idea dir there

[faint timber]

imagine not knowing this....

[lime pivot]

@opal ridge remember when we talked about the newest distro I can run on my oldest pc? https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/10/netbsd_93/

I mean it’s not Linux but hey

[surreal abyss]

i wish freebsd worked with my wifi chip

oh wait nevermind it does i guess

[frank hedge]

i wish i had a macbook to develop ios jailbreaks, but i only have a laptop

ik i don't know how, but i can probably take courses for swift/objective-c

and i can't hackintosh cause my laptop is ryzen, so what can i do?

[celest quiver]

You don’t need a mac to build for iOS

[frank hedge]

your kernel was probably older, maybe thats why it didnt work

[frank hedge]

what can i use?

idk, cuz i cant install xcode

[weary heath]

If you want to start with tweaks you can use Theos

[frank hedge]

wait a minute...

do most jb devs seriously start with tweaks?

[weary heath]

I don’t know

But if you don’t know any objective c I think jumping straight into jailbreak development could be difficult

[hexed knot]

Hell no

[surreal abyss]

doubt that’s the reason

[frank hedge]

can't find any courses

[zenith hatch]

its better to start with a language closer to english

[surreal abyss]

basic

[zenith hatch]

you’ll understand a lot of core programming concepts then

and then you can apply that knowledge to other langs

[zenith hatch]

true

or be like @grave sparrow and write in assembly

[surreal abyss]

i was just gonna say that

[zenith hatch]

true

[surreal abyss]

“if you wanted to be evil recommend assembly”

[zenith hatch]

true

wasm trol

[surreal abyss]

i need to learn how to do assembly

like i started but

never finished

or atleast tried to do it

[hasty ruin]

lua

[zenith hatch]

[hasty ruin]

what android version is this from actually

[frank hedge]

english isnt a programming language, ppl speak it, they dont program with it

[zenith hatch]

how about you shut the fuck up

[zenith hatch]

idk

maybe 4-5

[frank hedge]

what did i do?

[surreal abyss]

he didn’t mean to use english to program

[zenith hatch]

give a shitty opinion also cant read

[surreal abyss]

he meant look for a language that looks closely to english spelling

so you can get the hang of it

before diving into

whatever else you wanna try

[zenith hatch]

^

[frank hedge]

whats that opinion? i didnt give ANY opinion whatsoever

[zenith hatch]

ignore the opinion part

[frank hedge]

how can i not read though?

[hasty ruin]

You didn’t understand what he said

Though it was extremely obvious

[frank hedge]

sorry

[surreal abyss]

obsessed with this emoji

[frank hedge]

or should i say srry

to sound cute

[hasty ruin]

Yes

[zenith hatch]

its a very common emotion to feel so like

WatchTube is a lot of fun

[frank hedge]

lets hope autocorrection doesnt turn srry into sorry

[zenith hatch]

wish i could add an eq

[frank hedge]

checkra1n started development in... i think october 2019

they said it would release nov 8th, but they didnt want the release to end up saying it was for 12.3-13.2

so it released nov 10th instead

[crude swallow]

ermmm then what language are you programming in, spanish? 🤓

[surreal abyss]

si empieza,
mueve a hasta b
otro
regresar 0

[crude swallow]

true, i wish i had a macbook to develop ios jailbreaks, but i only have a laptop

[zenith hatch]

true

[crude swallow]

fr

then B

then C

then D

[zenith hatch]

basic

[crude swallow]

then F

[zenith hatch]

cobalt

uh

d?

idk

[crude swallow]

yeah

D exists

in fact

[zenith hatch]

8===D

[crude swallow]

an anisette server was recently written in it

[zenith hatch]

what lang

[crude swallow]

D

lang

[zenith hatch]

?

dart

[crude swallow]

https://dlang.org/

[zenith hatch]

oh

[gentle grove]

Its trying to read a file named /use/bin/idea though

[hasty ruin]

Dart

[zenith hatch]

dart

[rose wren]

Where is the J programming language

[zenith hatch]

java

[rose wren]

Worst language

[zenith hatch]

ikr

[zenith hatch]

ikr

[native dune]

[zenith hatch]

fr

[vivid dew]

tr

[zenith hatch]

i hate triangles

[primal perch]

trans?

[hasty ruin]

yes

[tepid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-epstein-log-off-logging-off-log-gif-18779246

[wicked summit]

gm

[faint timber]

why does mach_vm_read_overwrite return invalid address?

[primal perch]

https://web.mit.edu/darwin/src/modules/xnu/osfmk/man/vm_read.html

data_in is a pointer

[rocky token]

Wait what’s wrong with Java

[gentle grove]

Wdym

[rocky token]

@gentle grove

[gentle grove]

mostly just meming

its actually a pretty good language

there are a lot of way worse languages

[rocky token]

I like it. Haven’t tried Kotlin tho

[gentle grove]

I haven't either

one thing is that modern java is a lot better than older versions

[primal perch]

same with modern C++

[rocky token]

Pisses me off when android tutorials are in Kotlin even though it’s a totally reasonable thing for the author to make lol

[gentle grove]

Carbon

I need to try carbon

although its syntax is worse than rust

[rocky token]

Have you seen the job listings asking for 5+ years of experience with carbon?

[gentle grove]

where

[rocky token]

Saw someone share it on tiktok. I’ll try to find it

[gentle grove]

basically google's version of c++

[primal perch]

far wrose

i think its dogshit personally

[gentle grove]

even though rust already exists and is pretty good

[primal perch]

rust is the only language that potentially has a future

[gentle grove]

yeah

[primal perch]

i wouldnt even say go does bc its basically solely held up by google

[gentle grove]

Despite all the points people make fun of it for

[primal perch]

once google stops caring (aka goes carbon) go is done

[gentle grove]

go is kinda just better Python in my eyes

[primal perch]

well lets not get too hasty

[gentle grove]

people here can say what they want but in total its pretty good

[primal perch]

its not terrible ill say that about rust

which is already pretty good considering its age

i think all other new languages are pretty bad

go zig carbon

[rocky token]

https://www.reddit.com/r/programminghumor/comments/w8qhw2/coding_jobs_are_the_future/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_term=link

It was Reddit not tiktok

[primal perch]

probably a satirical job desc ngl

[gentle grove]

yeah that's very obviously a joke lol

[primal perch]

i know just enough rust to be able to pick it up should the need arise

[rocky token]

Maybe but it was pretty funny. C++ doesn’t count

[primal perch]

otherwise i just let it wither and occasionally relearn it to the bare minimum as mentioned

[gentle grove]

even though carbon is supposed to be mostly c++

[primal perch]

let cock = {
34
};

cock

[rocky token]

Well I’m not good at picking up satire

[primal perch]

is now 34

win

[gentle grove]

@primal perch tell me if you ever need help with rust because I love rust

[primal perch]

oke

[gentle grove]

I'm also in the rust server

there is an official one

[primal perch]

ig yea youre the only real rusthead here

[gentle grove]

trol

[primal perch]

theres that lucy person or something but they rarely stay long

[gentle grove]

rusthead

i might not know much but I know how to understand it when I look it up so

[primal perch]

same

i barely actuqally know shit i just know how to manipulate google

[gentle grove]

you should look at anyhow and thiserror

[primal perch]

which apparently is all you need

[gentle grove]

very good rustic error handling

[primal perch]

to blow peoples minds

[gentle grove]

rustic is a nice word

trolling

lets me auto-convert io errors, and number conversion errors into my error type

with the ? operator

basically its the right way to do error handling

you can manually implement that but thiserror gives you macros to generate the impl automatically

otherewise youd have to manually go like impl From<std::io::Error> for DrawError and so on

impl From<io::Error> for DrawError {
    fn from(error: io::Error) -> Self {
        Self::WriteError(error)
    }
}

something like that i think

[primal perch]

nfr

i mean its safer but the code looks like bung

would still rather use c++

theres so many hashtags shit looks like python

or twitter

[gentle grove]

because its macros

compile time

idk how to read macro source code

[primal perch]

just use templates

trole

[gentle grove]

what that

also idc how ugly it looks, thats why i use rust

[primal perch]

template <class T>
T add(T one, T two)
{
    return one + two;   
}```

[gentle grove]

so is that just compile time adding

rust has const fn

or you could probably write a macro for it

[primal perch]

its no different htan doing add manually just generic functions

idk i dont really know how to use templates anyway

[gentle grove]

oh

[primal perch]

ik theyre turing complete

[gentle grove]

why do you need templates for that

[primal perch]

and im tired anyway

maybe i should sleeep

[gentle grove]

do you have to use template to use generics

[primal perch]

idk

C++ is too complex for anyone to truly know

trole

[gentle grove]

const fn add<T: std::ops::Add>(one: T, two: T) {
    one + two
}

i think this works

• is just syntactic sugar anyways

[primal perch]

you know what else works

[gentle grove]

one.add(two)

[primal perch]

dn

[gentle grove]

ok

[primal perch]

yea true

just use add and assembly

[gentle grove]

Implementing Add with generics

Here is an example of the same Point struct implementing the Add trait using generics.

[primal perch]

actually just use a microscope and a very small taser

[primal perch]

flip the bits manually in your storage device

or magnet if youre on spinning rust

[gentle grove]

in rust + is just one.add(two)

because overloading

[primal perch]

bloat

[gentle grove]

fr

true

pub trait Add<Rhs = Self> {
    type Output;

    fn add(self, rhs: Rhs) -> Self::Output;
}

theres the trait definition for add

idk what rhs means but it's just the second number

Note that Rhs is Self by default, but this is not mandatory. For example, std::time::SystemTime implements Add<Duration>, which permits operations of the form SystemTime = SystemTime + Duration.

oh i know why this works

[gentle grove]

becuase = just means default

[primal perch]

true

meanwhile C you can pretty much master in a couple months

[gentle grove]

so the type youre adding defaults to self, but you can change it

what

thats a paradox

[primal perch]

that would be an emulator

and they are fun so go for it

[gentle grove]

that doesnt work

i think this works but idk what type to put for dst

use std::ops::Add;

fn add<T: Add>(&mut dst: T::Output, x: T, y: T) {
    *dst = x + y;
}

[primal perch]

n

[gentle grove]

trolling

[primal perch]

just not tryna get warned bc im at 550

so

yea

[gentle grove]

yeah

oh

[primal perch]

we did a lot of twerks

[gentle grove]

no clue if what i just did works

let me test it

[primal perch]

nfr

[gentle grove]

what did you say

[primal perch]

worth it but i need to be non r@rted now

[gentle grove]

.

[primal perch]

yea lmao

actually one was using the f slur

even tho i was using it in the cigarettes context

well in reality i was just t rolling

so i deserved the warn

[gentle grove]

what the hell

[primal perch]

yea i cant get banned w

dw

even if i get banned i just pull a jynx and magically come back

[gentle grove]

ok i need an ide for this

[quaint wigeon]

happy birthday @rose wren

[rose wren]

do NOT ping me

[rose wren]

thank you mother

[primal perch]

coldplay

more like midplay

they got like 4 good songs

probably more i just dont feel like listening to their discography and absorbing it

[rose wren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/922665475090030644/999711610174189669/unknown.gif

[gentle grove]

@primal perch @grave sparrow how does this make you feel (it works)

use std::ops::Add;

fn add<T: Add>(dst: &mut T::Output, x: T, y: T) {
    *dst = x + y;
}

fn main() {
    let mut output = i32::default();
    add(&mut output, 5, 10);
    println!("{}", output);
}

[gentle grove]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rose wren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/922665475090030644/999711610174189669/unknown.gif

thank you

[gentle grove]

i could put 0 instead of i32::default() but its more cursed this way

[primal perch]

also mid

idk barely listen to them

[rose wren]

@primal perch what do you think of weezer

[primal perch]

barely listen to them

theyre aright

[rose wren]

imagine draging these

[primal perch]

and yes i like them across my face

nfr

ya i mean its not like theyre bad

@restive ether imagine dragons is A tier

i do like a few of their songs

theyre in the same realm of coldplay for me

pret ty good ig i just dont care enough

to listen to more

bc its not really the genre most of my library is in

[gentle grove]

@primal perch do you know if you can even do that thing in python

because idk if you can pass a mutable reference or anyything

[crude swallow]

dragons

[rose wren]

rahhhh

[lime pivot]

viva la vida the album is great as long as you skip the titular song

[gentle grove]

mutable reference isn't the correct way in rust either

in that scenario

obviously you should just return a value

that's not rust being bad that's just me trying to make it cursed

🤷‍♂️

A lot of it is down to preference

you should use a reference if you don't need to mutate it

What do you mean you "had to copy"

like .clone()?

probably want a mutable reference

do you have the code somewhere

where were you receiving the &Vec from

actually wait

what were you doing to the vec inside the loop

yeah I feel like something was probably designed wrong in your rust code

I can't think of any case in my minesweeper so far where I'm copying values needlessly

Definitely though everything about rust's design choices make a lot more sense the more I work with it

and I feel like I'm always learning something and it makes sense

oh yes absolutely do not learn rust as your first language

And it isn't until too recently where async in rust is actually ok

Probably past couple years or so

and we have good async-aware http libraries like reqwest and hyper

you were supposed to pass a reference to the variable

for print

println!("{}", &foo);

instead of just foo

Otherwise you move foo inside of the print

it makes sense a lot more later on

the ampersand I mean

since you passed the variable itself in instead of just a reference to the variable

and foo wasn't one of the types marked with the Copy trait (which means it can automatically just make a cheap bitwise copy of the value into the function)

so like numbers are Copy for example, since its cheap to make a copy of a number

although it might still complain about the move in that case idk

its besides the point

because each variable has to be owned by a specific scope, so it knows when to free the variable

idk how to explain better

its weird but necessarily

let's them get away with having memory management without needing reference counting or garabeg collector

[gentle grove]

not sure if any other language also does this

I think kinda

Well

idk c++ so I can't speak for them

like in python when you pass a variable, that function gets a reference to the same memory, but then if you try and change that variable inside the function then it makes a copy automatically

that's just one example

and Python uses reference counting to know when it can free variables

rust uses the scope the variable is "owned" by to know when to free variables

unless you wrap the variable in the Rc or Arc type which makes it reference counted, useful for multithreading

yeah because a lot of them are copying secretly, I think

depends on the scenario

there is a difference though because I don't think you can clone a Vec "cheaply"

since you have to allocate new heap memory and then copy all the values

[vivid dew]

[gentle grove]

I gtg sleep

[last sierra]

do anyone here know java or nah

[zenith hatch]

boba does

[celest quiver]

@gentle grove

[rain falcon]

yes daddy

[misty cradle]

ye somewhat

[hexed knot]

A little

Un poco

[tepid olive]

fuck java 😠

[hexed knot]

Fact

[zenith hatch]

fact

[last sierra]

nvm im good

i appreciate it though 🙏

[lethal kayak]

yes

[crisp frost]

does any1 know how to fix jbinit ramdisk not being able to mount rootfs, it keeps failing with err 1?

[faint timber]

hook.c:12:22: error: 32-bit absolute addressing is not supported in 64-bit mode
    __asm__ volatile("mov %0, r11" : "=r" (r11));

@grave sparrow know x86? lol

I just want to save r11 to my local variable

this is x86_64 intel not armv7

printf broken @grave sparrow

printf("hook called! (r11: 0x%llX r15: 0x%llX)\n", (uint64_t)r11, (uint64_t)r15);

it crashes for any variable

seems to be an issue with the hook lib

EXC_I386_GPFLT: is general protection fault

[rose wren]

nice pointer

[faint timber]

@grave sparrow the issue is the hook rbp is smashed?

I have no idea how to fix it

I was correct

I now hook using trampoline

I save rbp and restore it before I printf

not the only issue

@grave sparrow how do I get it not to use rax

well heres the thing....

I'm jumping back the original code

the original rax is needed

I can't have the original rax if rax is used to jump back

so... @grave sparrow

varadic has nothing to do with anything

there is no issue with any of my code

rax is irrelevant

like I said

the original rax is there

you gave me the 64bit reg read

I need the 64bit reg write now

att_syntax

I prefer intel

But whatever actually works

[turbid fjord]

void *fuck

So true

[hexed knot]

I am att

[gentle grove]

Clones are often compiled away. So, clone() away instead of fighting for too long to get the compiler to be happy about ownership!
wtf

[vivid dew]

me when i rely on compiler optimizations to get the behaviour i want:

https://tenor.com/view/panical-itechcaptain-yoshiiisland-yoshiisland-weather-report-gif-26190663

[indigo peak]

im watching breakinmg bad rn\

[hasty ruin]

wtf piracy

ayo

[indigo peak]

nah wym

[indigo peak]

fake screenshot

[vivid dew]

[hasty ruin]

still piracy

these screenshots are leaking the entire series.

[indigo peak]

[hasty ruin]

based edge user tho

[indigo peak]

nah wym

chrome

[hasty ruin]

L

[vivid dew]

https://tenor.com/view/caption-hop-on-clash-of-gif-25246094

[indigo peak]

https://tenor.com/view/belle-delphine-csgo-hop-on-0equals0-hop-on-csgo-gif-26053428

[hasty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/pekka-clash-royale-alfateh-gif-24780376

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-get-on-get-on-fortnite-buff-gif-22784723

[steady nest]

https://tenor.com/view/clash-of-clans-hop-on-clash-of-clans-giga-chad-coc-meme-gif-24752602

[primal perch]

based

[turbid fjord]

Clash Royale >

Fight me

[pearl sail]

@indigo peak you are dumb as fuck

[indigo peak]

ok?

this is new info how?

[pearl sail]

Not new information just verifying

[indigo peak]

[turbid fjord]

Lmfao

[primal perch]

be more kind

[pearl sail]

Being mean is easier

[rose wren]

I hate edge on windows but I use it on mscos

[hasty ruin]

main pc: edge
this pc: trying out firefox
mac: edge

[primal perch]

shitfox

[rose wren]

You use windows shut up!!!

[serene ridge]

Real

[zenith hatch]

@hasty ruin gm

[hasty ruin]

gm true

[zenith hatch]

true gm

[rose wren]

British mfs

Hate them

[hasty ruin]

unhappy birthday

[rose wren]

Wtf???

[hasty ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/troll-trolled-trollge-troll-success-gif-22597471

[rose wren]

Give me 1 billion in gay 5

[hasty ruin]

hop on rn then mf

[indigo peak]

I use safari on windows

I hate it on macOS

[hasty ruin]

i actually used to use safari on windows xp

[rose wren]

Hi

No

[hasty ruin]

[zenith hatch]

safari is nice

idk

[vivid dew]

stop using frameworks

[zenith hatch]

.

[vivid dew]

back in my day we statically linked entire apps

[zenith hatch]

bruh

sexually transmitted disease input output

[restive ether]

paths

[zenith hatch]

cursed

[restive ether]

ewwwww

[faint lion]

External iPod Controls

Use volume buttons to change tracks

Author

ipodtouchmaster

Version

2.0.1

Price

Paid

Repo

BigBoss

Bundle ID

com.iptm.externalipodcontrols

Powered by Canister · Aug 12, 2022, 12:08 AM

[serene ridge]

dog

why are you using the bot for it

[lime pivot]

wow ipod touch master isn’t exactly the best username

we were definitely more innocent back then huh

[rose wren]

@grave sparrow

@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow@grave sparrow

[restive ether]

do you really think every single command is it’s own package

[serene ridge]

"yes"

[lime pivot]

[[cctools]]

[faint lion]

Darwin CC Tools

linker and assembler for the iPhone

Author

Hayden Seay

Version

949.0.1-2

Price

Free

Repo

Procursus

Bundle ID

odcctools

Powered by Canister · Aug 12, 2022, 2:35 AM

[serene ridge]

"nice name"

[native dune]

is that phone zefram strapped 🙄

[restive ether]

bro made lipo in zefram

[serene ridge]

capt: "if it exists, i try to make it in zefram"

[gentle grove]

what is zefram

[serene ridge]

idk

[hasty ruin]

Even malware!

[lime pivot]

I don't think even @grave sparrow knows at this point

[gentle grove]

i mean like what even is it

Is it a tweak

or a book

or an organization

is it software

Is it a CPU architecutre

Ok

Thank god capt wasn't writing a bible called zefram

[lime pivot]

ARM already wrote one why can't you

[hasty ruin]

To help find god 🙏

[lime pivot]

turns out god is an ARMv8.3 instruction set-based entity

[hasty ruin]

man god

when

wtf it exists??

[primal perch]

true

[lone bronze]

GNU FORCE 4 EVER

@grave sparrow

[celest quiver]

!?

alpine mfs insane

[lone bronze]

lul I just tried picking up rust for the first time and i might hate it tbh

[gentle grove]

can i help

i like rust

[lone bronze]

haha i'm not on my comp now but ill prob play around with it some point tomorrow so i might ping you

i don't hate it ... i just hate that it yells at me all the time when i compile 😂

[gentle grove]

oke

yeah it yells at you a lot but you can be a lot more certain than other languages that it works as intended once it does compile

[lone bronze]

yeah that makes sense ... still trying to understand the whole borrowing thing too which is nifty

[gentle grove]

yeah

its very weird but makes sense because of the safety it gives

[lone bronze]

Making classes was interesting as well ... there were a few times i hit the "hey you dont own this ish, you cant return that gtfo" message lmao

[gentle grove]

classes as in structs?

[lone bronze]

yeah structs/imp's

[gentle grove]

yeah

lifetimes are still kinda magic to me

[lone bronze]

it had to do with when I was playing around with vector things iirc

[gentle grove]

if youve seen anything about them

[lone bronze]

yeah that too ... still need to figure those out

'a something something

[gentle grove]

for now i kinda just put what the compiler tells me to because it knows what its doing

i thought it would be simple to store a reference in my struct

[lone bronze]

haha that's what i did sweet!

[gentle grove]

well acutlaly i eventually removed that and decided to not store a reference in the struct

i might swap what project im working on though

[lone bronze]

interesting ... did it complain about the lifetimes

[gentle grove]

just something something anonymous lifetime

<'_>

judging by the syntax it must be an inferred lifetime

but not sure why i have to mark it

i wlnder if i can find it in my commit history

i got rid of all the lifetimes now anyways

[lone bronze]

hmm yeah i wonder if storing it gives it an indefinite lifetime 🤷‍♂️

[gentle grove]

wdym

[lone bronze]

like wouldn't the lifetime of that ref be directly related to the lifetime of the object idk i am still trying to figure this out lol

[gentle grove]

wait like 'static?

its like basically you have to make sure your reference lasts as long as the lifetime of the object

so basically you cant have a reference to an object that was already freed since the scope it's owned in was freed

and then various crazy syntax in between to mark that

also the a in <'a> can be anything, but usually is just a single lowercase letter

its a name

i didnt realize that at first

[lone bronze]

oh i see that makes sense

i think 😅

[gentle grove]

maybe look at section 15.4 here (lifetimes) https://doc.rust-lang.org/rust-by-example/scope/lifetime.html

especially the elision page

that one could be a bookmark

[lone bronze]

yeah this is what i was getting at

Take, for example, the case where we borrow a variable via &. The borrow has a lifetime that is determined by where it is declared. As a result, the borrow is valid as long as it ends before the lender is destroyed```

[gentle grove]

yeah

i decided to ignore lifetimes for now since i dont really need them

except for 'static

ill have to write a web backend

ill try and make a new version for share.boba.best in rust

[lone bronze]

so if you were storing a ref of another object, in a different object and that first object is destroyed what happens to the stored ref of the object that was destroyed... right? i might just need to sleep lol

[gentle grove]

that shouldnt compile

i think thats the goal

[lone bronze]

okay got it ... that is what i would expect

at least based on that definition

also thank you for the link

ok maybe i dont hate it as much as i thought

[faint timber]

@grave sparrow so that code seems to work except the JMP R10 seems to break dyld

dyld[3675]: symbol not found in flat namespace (r10)

well I fixed it with *%r10

now I need to save stuff to stack properly

instead of overwriting my registers

is there a good resource for doing this

[faint timber]

I basically just need to save the one the rest are fine

[faint timber]

[] doesn't seem to work in c

oh its using att

tbh I should port everything to intel

[faint timber]

@grave sparrow ok all my problems are solved except for ret, now ret is broken

I saved all the registers to rbp

crashes on retq with EXC_I386_GPFLT

now I need to save that too

oh

[faint timber]

if I try to save -20, EXC_BAD_ACCESS (code=1, address=0xfffffffffffffffb) @grave sparrow this is madness

0xfffffffffffffffb is no where which is even weirder

[faint timber]

compiler is braindead

[primal perch]

yea

lea is goated

[trail niche]

the absolute state of environment variables

[faint timber]

bad config

[zenith hatch]

true

[naive kraken]

it's released now just FYI

[zenith hatch]

environment variables are fine

its you

[grim sparrow]

already on the mirror

[naive kraken]

alright

[naive kraken]

@lime pivot pls update StopCrashingPls to either remove MobileGestaltHelper from it's plist or whitelist "libSandySupport.dylib", thx

[lime pivot]

it's not expanding ~, remove quotes if you used any

[lime pivot]

can do

the latter that is

I'm reluctant to remove gestalt helper since it's become critical to IPC, it's better that it allows only known IPC dylibs

so they're reliable

[indigo peak]

just add prefs

[naive kraken]

if you want prefs just use Choicy lol

[indigo peak]

fair enough

[naive kraken]

yeah that will work, you can install the new Safari Plus build from my repo https://opa334.github.io to make sure everything works, if libSandy isn't working it throws an error on starting Safari

[lime pivot]

yep perfect, thanks

I'd recommend adding Conflicts: ws.hbang.stopcrashingpls (<= 1.0.2) to Sandy

so it'll uninstall for now or upgrade later when I have 1.0.3 out

[naive kraken]

yeah I will add that

[tepid olive]

unsure if this is falls under dev but is it possible to view the logs of an app? unlike on macos i can't just run the executable via terminal

[grim sparrow]

https://twitter.com/ryan_r_jay/status/1557997371878912000?s=21&t=Mz5ygvntNbUduAMgxGJh8A

RR/Zöe (@Ryan_R_Jay)

@Lucky_Munro @r0wdy_ @ComradeEevee Like this one? 👀👀👀

Twitter · Aug 12, 2022, 7:48 AM

[restive ether]

thought we moved past the need for this

[naive kraken]

I think so too but some users still have that installed

also it doesn't hurt

[faint timber]

@grave sparrow got it working now no crashes, can you get what the big brain solution is?

[indigo peak]

@faint timber can you help me im being stupid

idk how to do something simple

[faint timber]

just ask

[indigo peak]

im trying to call bypass_sandbox_offsetless() from https://github.com/opa334/sandbox_extension_generator/ in exploitation_get_krw_with_arb_free(mach_port_t arb_free_holder, uint64_t *kernel_base) from https://github.com/potmdehex/multicast_bytecopy/

and idk how to "import" the bypass sandbox function from sandbox_extension_generator.m into exploit.c

and like, idk if i need to make sandbox_extension_generator into a subproject and compile it separately

[faint timber]

objective-c still uses headers the only difference is for actually objective-c classes in the header it has the impl, but for raw c is just the same

so just add int bypass_sandbox_offsetless(void); in exploit.c

then make sure you add sandbox_extension_generator.m to build files

[indigo peak]

thats it?

no importing or anything?

bruh

that was really it

i quit

i give up

im now a liberal arts major

fuck comp sci

[trail niche]

lmao that actually matters?

damn

[trail niche]

objc also has modules

[indigo peak]

shut

shut

shut

shut

shut

[trail niche]

lmao no namespaces

[indigo peak]

@grave sparrow if this code works ill drive to your house and kiss you

[trail niche]

import
```?

also lmao #import user

yeah, thats good

the C style #include sucks ass

I dont see the issue ngl

yep nvm

after trying it out

I realised how shitty this is

[hexed knot]

@lethal snowort Gay

[trail niche]

you say that, but https://github.com/klange/taylor

[trail niche]

funny saito man

[hexed knot]

Who

[trail niche]

aint that the name of the judgement guy

[hexed knot]

Kaito

[trail niche]

ah

there we go

[faint timber]

Pretty genius I know, but I replaced rbp with a malloc ptr

[trail niche]

what the fuck

[faint timber]

So my hook has its own fake stack

[trail niche]

I

wow

I never