off-topic

[modern yoke]

insanely fast performance! And very impressive compression efficiency.

I think in the past tests I did that it producedthe smallet file sizes, but I have actually come to learn that sometimes lzma2 can beat it significantly, but not always!

[tall vapor]

even when zstd ends up being a teeny tiny bit larger I prefer it in most cases cause YEAH it speedy

[modern yoke]

yeah, unless you absolutely need to aim for the smallest possible file size (and have the time for it), I'd go with zstd any day!

[tall vapor]

getting smaller than what zstd can useful is to like shave off a couple k if yer lucky in order to hit upload size limitations but that's abt it

hell, my memory compression (so as to make more space in ram, can be very handy) runs via zstd

and it does so on practically all lin distros where it's a thing (don't know one where it doesn't default to zstd for that)

because yeah

smol&SPEEDY

[modern yoke]

I just performed the .tar.xz through 7z app instead of windows built-in right now. And it got the same size as the .7z. So I guess they have fine-tuned some things to make LZMA2 produce slightly smaller filesizes

Figured my way around he terminal version of 7z to see if the result is any different

[tall vapor]

shouldn't be, the gui thing (7zfm) is literally just a gui for the cli tools

[livid plover]

if it is, it's because of settings

[modern yoke]

yeah, I was thinking that. But I couldn't find a way to access the cli tool without going to 7z website and downloading something else

[livid plover]

?

[modern yoke]

wait tell me where

[tall vapor]

the cli tool is literally included with 7zip, otherwise it wouldn't work

[livid plover]

in your 7zip install folder..

[tall vapor]

7zfm (the gui) ends up calling 7z to do the 7z things

[modern yoke]

I wonder what the hell 7za.exe is then...

it's a little bigger in size but seems to be the exact same?

when I call 7z.exe I get the exact same cli as 7za.exe... huh

[tall vapor]

7za is standalone

[livid plover]

7-Zip Extra: standalone console version,

[tall vapor]

7za is what gets bundled in to make 7z sfx work, for example

ie if ya make a 7z sfx it takes 7za and appends the 7z archive data to it and there's your sfx (simplified explanation)

[compact lark]

#off-topic message
I'm guessing exact files gets filtered, but there's no gui option to force it on lesser compression profiles

[modern yoke]

seemingly the same 7z presets are also included in the cli app. Meaning I can just choose a preset instead of having to "recreate" it based on the gui app with tons of little parameters

[tall vapor]

yeah, cause the gui (7zfm) is literally just a gui for the cli tooling

[modern yoke]

I thought it might have included presets somewhere along the way, but outside the cli

[tall vapor]

is also useful for when ya make an installer for an application. then you can use 7za to take care of unpacking everything

[blazing hound]

is there someone i can talk to about obs forums?

[modern yoke]

ahhhh so that's how they do it. I secretly saw clues of some programs including a little 7z unpacker for like update

[full fern]

[e-mail]

[tall vapor]

pretty much, yeah! That's what the standalone version is commonly used for

[blazing hound]

Alright thank you

[silver fable]

So... is the compression thing just a thought experiment, or is there an actual desire/need? Honest question. Doesn't feel like there's a lot to gain nowadays, I mean.

[modern yoke]

well mostly just thought experiment

on my end

but I do LOW KEY, and call me crazy, have the idea to compress my "everything" cold storage HDD into a tar zstd file and copy it onto another device. So like a clone without it being a tangled mess of directories and thousands and thousands of files, but just "one big file"

like the "backup file"

[livid plover]

does that support pulling single files back out with a full decompression?

[modern yoke]

yep i thought about while writing m last message actually

[livid plover]

tbh just use one of the proper backup solutions that already do that

[modern yoke]

yeah, and that's honestly also what I realized too

[opaque halo]

local NAS

[modern yoke]

I'm interested in that. And with some sort of raid hard drive redundancy if one fails. It would be cool

[tall vapor]

full system backup into a tarball is like... used to be done /VERY/ commonly, still is to a degree. But yah pulling out a single file can get messy

[opaque halo]

yup. Had one for a while. Used FreeNAS / TrueNAS. OS and NAS controller ran off a flashdrive. Had it set up to where I could loose a drive and hot swap it out for a new one and it would auto rebuild the RAID

[modern yoke]

of course I would still keep my actual HDD un-tarballed. Just the backups be tar

I should get a new HDD. I have my "main" one and another backup one. But they are both 8 years old

none of the data on there is like CRITICAL but it would still suck to lose

[silver fable]

So, backup one old drive into another and see which fails first. LOL

[modern yoke]

yes exactly. I feel like they are both on their last legs

what's the best way of backing up a hard drive onto another? Previously I just copied all the files but that took a while. Now I'm thinking of doing the tar + zstd thing

I mean "best way" as in something I can realistically do right now. Before getting nas or something. tar + zstd doesn't seem like that bad of an idea to me

[silver fable]

Feel like compressing and sending would be even slower.

[livid plover]

many small files is hilariously slow sadly

[modern yoke]

I did actually tar (but not compress) some directories in there because there were like 600k files lol

[copper notch]

7zip has a lot of fine tuning options, such as the number of threads, dictionary size etc. Some of these options can substantially increase the compression on certain file inputs, but often at a higher memory footprint for compression. I experimented a while back on my 128GB 5950X to find the best balance and crunch files small, using up to around 96GB of RAM. Gotta experiment to find the best settings for a given CPU+RAM combo.

I scoured my computer for all zip/rar/tar*/7z and other archives a few years back, then decompressed each and recompressed with various options to find optimal compression, and left it like that, then recompressed all archives I had into 7z format. There were only a small number where 7z actually increased the file size for some odd reason. I got upwards of 30%+ smaller archives doing this. Saved tonnes of space.

[wheat karma]

love me some compression simple as

havent kept up to date with any new software and algorithms tho, just been using 7z ultra

[copper notch]

LZMA2 is the best algo I've used, 7zip in Win, xz in Linux.

[wheat karma]

i guess it depends what you're looking for, extreme max compression, efficiency (good speed vs compression) or some raw speed and decentish compression

i think 7z on various presets can offer all of those easily

but theres probably some niche software that offers some extreme compression that takes like 348343 minutes to compress a few files

[still mica]

For truly extreme compression, search the digits of pi for the entirety of the file you want to compress, and then just store a pointer to which digit of pi it should start reading from to decompress.

[quartz furnace]

yo

[smoky rapids]

@shut tartan Any chance the recent changes twitch made with the ingest servers is causing this or is it something on my end?

[void gale]

steam not opening now for some reason

[karmic tiger]

https://help.steampowered.com/en/

[void gale]

even help website is not opening

[void gale]

can u check if steam store working on ur mobile or pc

[karmic tiger]

it is

[karmic tiger]

ok?

[void gale]

I got scammed by steam xD
I cant even play offline games

[karmic tiger]

skill issue likely

[jaunty fulcrum]

can confirm it was down, seems to be recovering

[copper notch]

Yep massive DDoS attack on Steam tonight. It's back up working for me now though.

Protip: If Steam goes down in the future, you can edit the file C:\\Program Files (x86)\Steam\config\loginusers.vdf and change WantsOfflineMode from 0 to 1, then save and restart steam to run it in offline mode. Games in the library that do not require Internet to work, should work fine.

[karmic tiger]

it doesn't ask you whether you want to run offline if you start while steam is down? for me it does

[copper notch]

It just starts with the steam logo and a never ending throbber for like 5 minutes, then a login screen with a QR code

[karmic tiger]

yeah and from the last time I ran it while steam was down for me if you then try to login, it fails to reach steam and asks if you wanna run offline

[void gale]

its gone again now
for some reason

[full fern]

Disney+ just went tits up on me. With ten minutes left of a show finale. I wonder if that's related

[wise bay]

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[wheat karma]

A ddos on steam? Is there a source for that? I'd much sooner believe an intern spilled cola on a server or something

[stark dune]

almost sounds as believable as a successful ddos on google. probably something on valves side

[terse helm]

you find it harder to believe that someone would try to DDoS steam than that Steam has more than one server?

[stark dune]

I do believe someone would try to ddos steam. I just don't believe they'd be that successful. And it's not really steams servers that are protecting against stuff like that. It's usually the DNS service providers like cloudflare

[terse helm]

DNS doesn't protect against DDoS

cloudflare (and for that matter most other anti-DDoS services) does it by putting proxies in front of your server

which they are not doing for steam, as steam uses too much bandwidth

steam runs their own CDN

[stark dune]

well, I guess cloudflare isn't exactly a DNS only service provider. I've set up proxies for my own hosted stuff through cloudfare as well. I kinda know how it works

[terse helm]

you kinda know how it works, I know exactly how it works because this shit is my job

[stark dune]

so in this case it's their own CDN that would provide protection

[terse helm]

CDNs provide DDoS-protection by being geographically distributed while using the same IP addresses everywhere

this splits up any DDoS data stream to multiple places, because one source of traffic will route to a different version of the IP address than another

Cloudflare's CDN has so many PoPs that it is extremely hard to DDoS it effectively, but this is not true of every CDN

it's not impossible to DDoS a service on a CDN, it just becomes harder the more geographically distributed it is

[wheat karma]

Might have been a lot of cola over many servers, maybe a windows update simultaneously bricked them all such things have happened in the past I guess

[livid plover]

CrowdStrike 2.0

[wheat karma]

You'd need some pretty serious player to ddos steam, to what take it down for an hour max at way past peak time, what are you gaining here

[still mica]

Keep in mind that there are probably parts of steam (like their license servers, whatever they call them) that are probably not served by their CDN. Don't need to DDoS an entire CDN when you can just DDoS the creamy insides.

[livid plover]

pre-testing for the main event

[terse helm]

some people just like to flex their e-peen

[wheat karma]

Hopefully they demand HL3

True I guess

[carmine ibex]

The moon is super bright tonight
That's 1/1500 shutter 50 ISO on an s20 phone camera

[livid plover]

ah yes, the Samsung-Moon ™

[stark dune]

iirc they do slap a fake moon on the real picture

[sudden adder]

Was thinking the same thing

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/s/5OQdJtOcST post about the fake moon imaging

[carmine ibex]

this is just x10 zoom, I don't think it's affected.. should just be a general upscaler that is used
also, I'm not sure the phone is new enough for that, anyway

oh, does say s20
still, only 10x zoom, hmm

I do have the RAW version if you wanna see that
granted, this still looks blurry 😅 the x5 zoom one was sharper (even when zooming into equivalent size) for some reason, but I used 125 ISO for that, so the black sky is.. not black

I can convert to PNG if you want

I converted it
hmm, yeah, it does seem quite different

less contrast, some details missing

LOL
I think something is a little weird when you open dng with Windows photos

[terse helm]

looks like it's trying to auto-expose the shot and doesn't understand that most of it is supposed to be black

[late surge]

same a few nights ago
1/1000th shutter, f6.7 aperture, 500 iso on a Fujifilm X-T5
( Cropped a bit )

[modern yoke]

can someone explain to me why the built-in windows "compress to tar" right click menu is 2x faster than the built-in terminal "tar" command do do the same task???

[late surge]

Maybe your disk's write speed is super slow? Otherwise I have no clue

[livid plover]

how did you benchmark this?

[modern yoke]

by timing it

real-world timing

I had to tar a 100k files or so, 11GB in total. took 10 minutes 32 seconds with tar.exe in terminal

[livid plover]

type out the full testing method used. how many runs. how did you account for or prevent IO cache. what is the variance test to test.

[modern yoke]

took 5 minutes 42 seconds on right click menu

[livid plover]

you cmdline tar'd it first, didn't you

[modern yoke]

what??

ill tell you later when i have time

[livid plover]

you did the "tar.exe in terminal" test first?

[modern yoke]

or maybe i do not idk well see

yes

[livid plover]

there you go, it's IO caching

your testing method is flawed and that's why you're getting unexpected results

[modern yoke]

let me try agian

[livid plover]

nah, sit down later when you have more time and do a proper test with multiple runs

[modern yoke]

alright

[copper notch]

LOL

[copper notch]

Pfft... you and your scientific methods! 😛

[livid plover]

"wow it's so fast the second time"
yeah, ramcaching does that for you

[copper notch]

That's one of the nice things about having 128GB of RAM. When not using programs that eat up a significant chunk of that, basically the entire OS, and all apps/games that are ran are cache, and load super fast, also reducing wear on storage devices as a bonus.

[terse helm]

easy way to test for realsies:

• do cmdline tar
• reboot
• do windows explorer tar

of course making sure to use the same settings wrt compression and whatnot

[modern yoke]

yeah I was thinking of doing that. OR running each thing 2 times but only counting second?

[sudden adder]

Running both at the same time would also be flawed

[modern yoke]

not at the same time, but sequentially

[sudden adder]

Ah, misread

[modern yoke]

give each run a kind of "warmup" first. But im more keen to just restarting before each run

[sudden adder]

What is the end goal of all of this?

[modern yoke]

you ask too many questions 😶‍🌫️

no but mainly curiosity because im only now discovering "tar"

[sudden adder]

Nah, i simply ask questions to fill in blanks with answers.

[modern yoke]

Also I have a feeling it's way faster on linux. I havent tried there yet. But while viewing task manager the tar in cmd only used roughly 5-10% cpu and 0-3% disk which was very unusual. Honeslty it might have recognized I was on battery with a laptop

I was not using any battery saving setting though

home tests will be done on desktop

[copper notch]

rebooting in between runs is testing the speed of the storage device

In linux, copy the source materials into /dev/shm first, then compress them in there. Eliminates disk I/O from the equation entirely.

[livid plover]

run 3 times hard minimum. you need more to catch any variance too. optimally remove as many variables as possible, i.e. skeletonbow's suggestion above to ramdisk it

rebooting i would be wary off aswell, both because the time needed for it, and the extra need/uncertanity in waiting for the system to settle

[smoky rapids]

https://fxtwitter.com/CNBC/status/1975551231272657113

Qualcomm now own Arduino.

[sudden adder]

Welp, there went that fun product

[tall vapor]

they had a good run

[sudden adder]

-pours one out-

[tall vapor]

they got the market started no doubt, but nowadays like eehhh

so many esp boards, stm32 based boards, rp2xxx based boards and so on out there...

[sudden adder]

And you can just build your own arduino anyway on a bread board

[tall vapor]

yeah with the older ones that used off the shelf chips

or just order a bag of boards off of ali for a couple cents on the dollar

[sudden adder]

I’ve still got parts to build a couple of Uno equivalents

[tall vapor]

gonna see whether those new qualcomm owned boards are still gonna be simple like that. They have released the board design files and all, buuut the main chip of course ain't available gonna see when it is and if so for what price

also what support is like&all....

yeag....

[copper notch]

Cool, maybe we'll get Copilot for Arduino in the future!

🙂

[tall vapor]

the marketing materials for the uno q is all AI this, AI that already

[tall vapor]

if that main chip is cheap enough, actually available, and it runs your own lin stuffs all easy without having to go through NDAd SDKs&all? That'd be cool, albeit unlikely u.u

[modern yoke]

oh damn. I just tested my laptop while connected to power... 20 seconds SLOWER than on battery. So it was not trying to preserve battery, unless it is made to always do that

[tall vapor]

you bypassing caching at this point? no? okie so it's pointless testing

[modern yoke]

I just wanted to see if connecting it to power made it use more cpu but nope

[terse helm]

doesn't matter if you didn't take filesystem caching into account

literally no test you do is worth anything without that

it's basically the system cheating on a benchmark for you

randomly

[modern yoke]

I don't understand

bypassing caching as in I'm reading the actual files instead of what's probably cached?

[terse helm]

whenever you access anything on a disk the OS keeps that in memory, for the next time you're trying to access them

that second access will not touch the disk

[modern yoke]

I see

[terse helm]

and memory is MUCH faster

[modern yoke]

Well, there were 2 tests on caching

and one on reading disk

[terse helm]

testing the caching is very hard because it is transparent

[modern yoke]

one of the cached tests were ran on batter, and the other was connected to power. Oddly the one with power connected was a few seconds slower

[terse helm]

it may have actually evicted part of the cache because of something else happening in the background, affecting your second (supposedly cached) run

[modern yoke]

But I'm setting everything up for a more proper test on desktop

[modern yoke]

LOL

when you get ready to test and windows starts indexing out of nowhere

[livid plover]

[civic quarry]

i have nothing worth indexing

[wise bay]

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[left heart]

it is after all the daytime illuminated ground on the moon. you have to use filters when looking at the moon through a telescope, it's uncomfortably bright to look at. I took a telescope out to the park last night for the harvest moon and plenty of people came to look through, which doesn't always happen

saturn was right next to it too, so we also looked at that

also got (un?)lucky when shooting some video

[late surge]

Plane?

[terse helm]

shark.

[left heart]

yep, it was still pretty low during ascent from one of the nearby airports. still not sure how Jaws got FAA certified, though

(wait, what was the name of the shark in Jaws again? Bruce?)

[prisma dove]

Bruce

[left heart]

I gotta watch that movie again. it's been ages

[modern yoke]

alright let me see how to do it on linux

is it safe to assume im bottlenecked by system writing speed?

on linux i put it in the dev/shm folder and tarring is only using about 8% cpu, but my write speed seems to plateu at 305MiB/s

I was about to say how I think I recorded faster than that in OBS, but that was 800 megabits per second, not megabytes

well, idk why it reports 8% cpu. Tere is CLEARLY some activity from tarring

[wheat karma]

goated cpu

[modern yoke]

looks like more than 8% to me

All the runs definetely felt faster on linux. But I'm guessing it got a lot of help from being in /dev/shm

I have 32GB ram, so windows should definetely also have space to have it all cached in ram, but maybe it was slowly letting it go once it was done. the directory uncompressed is 10GB

I love using linux for more technical and nerdy stuff

But one conclusion I got was that it definetely felt a lot faster on linux

even when it was not cached, and after a reboot

[livid plover]

SATA SSD?

[modern yoke]

you bet

[tall vapor]

me abt literally anything:

[marsh helm]

thats a space shark :S

[copper notch]

writing to /dev/shm as well? (eliminating disk I/O in both directions)

One of the benefits to testing stuff like this that way, is eliminating the slowest component from bottlenecking things orders of magnitude beyond the performance of the algorithm itself.

Basically the same reason GPUs are benchmarked using the fastest CPU available, to eliminate the CPU as a source of bottleneck so the GPU perf is actually what is being tested.

So you end up testing the algo and potentially the RAM performance, but that'll be way faster than disk I/O so more accurate representation of the algo.

[late surge]

i know dvds aren't exactly state of the art but this is ridiculous

just one small chunk

[jagged sorrel]

omg. I'm not permabaned from a site for no reason. Is this discord??

[late surge]

ok? good for you i guess

[jagged sorrel]

Nothing good anyone involved

good for*

[opaque halo]

What specifically are you talking about?

[vapid tinsel]

No one knows.

[jagged sorrel]

I never know what is a big deal

my last perbaman was for question a moderator who was passively projecting

[opaque halo]

What are you on about?

[prisma dove]

shit posting, no context, my guess is trying to draw a reaction. Nothing to see hear people, carry on with your lives.

[jagged sorrel]

okay

you really think it's all fair, write me off as a troll

no need to hurt your brain

[opaque halo]

You have made absolutely no sense.

[vapid tinsel]

Picking up after my dog is more intriguing than figuring out shit posting.

[jagged sorrel]

It's kind sad how these type of programs dick mods even without full context

[prisma dove]

shit bagging. Or shoveling.

[jagged sorrel]

and just pull it out of their asses

i'll rejoin when I can talk to someone who doesn't have their head's up their ass

dickride&

[still turret]

What is going on here?

[vapid tinsel]

The former. I’m not about to carry a shovel around on walks.

[still turret]

Nobody talking so far has been a mod, what's the problem?

[prisma dove]

Three dogs, three leashes, each with a bag holder. Never can be too prepared.

[jaunty fulcrum]

hilarious estimate. love international delivery.

[full fern]

Bt the time you get it, it will be a surprise. "WTF is this package" LOL

[jaunty fulcrum]

yup!

[livid plover]

gotta cover your ass for delays!

[copper pasture]

and then it's like "you have to pay import fees" and you go "lmao this is a scam, I didn't order anything!" and then it gets sent back

[silver fable]

Sir, this is America. We don't pay import fees.

[smoky rapids]

The sender does

[modern yoke]

Oh I did not think oh that, lol. I just wrote to my desktop. I will definetely try this!

[modern yoke]

@copper notch hmm, maybe you can help with this. I experienced an error when trying to do it all in /dev/shm

I can confirm that I did not run out of memory. The directory itself is 10GB

After removing the currupted tar

When I try to fill in more I get an error saying I don't have enough disk space, but I do! and the ram is also not full. Not quite sure what is going on

Ooooh I see. There's something about it only letting me use half of my ram in that /dev/shm folder... I think

4.7GB free, this would indicate that my ram size is 16.1GB. But I do have 32.5GB reported ram (and yes I can go beyond 16GB usage by loading programs)

And I made sure, yes there is plenty of free space on my actual disk (hundreds of GB)

saw some post online also mentioning that default was up to 50% of actual ram

I'm not about to change that, in favour of my system stability. Instead I'll reduce how much I am tarring

tarring into ram instead of disk is 2x faster. Interesting.

now ill do a cold restart and tar how I "normally would" to see how long that takes, with all the files this time. On windows that took around 10 minutes

[copper notch]

/dev/shm has a predefined max size it scales up to IIRC that is some % of total physical RAM, 50% I think, but I forget the details.

[copper notch]

Ah, yeah you found it... I shoulda read the rest first 🙂

Years ago I had some fun... on an ES45 quad-Alpha system that had 16GB of RAM on it which was an insane amount of RAM for the time, around 2001 or 2002. Set up a RAM disk in Linux with an entire buildsystem inside of it as a chroot jail, and then built every single source package of the entire Linux distribution inside of it, copying the source in, building it, and copying the resulting packages out one at a time. The entire process all happening in RAM.

That super sped up everything, it was kinda ridiculous. At the time I had 1GB in my own computer which was itself kind of ridiculous for the day... and the average desktop had like 64MB or so, so it was a fun nerdfest thing to do to say the least. 😛

[modern yoke]

52 seconds on linux, compared to 10 minutes on windows. Holy moly 😵

[copper notch]

I'd like to set up an environment like that again in the near future to do the same kind of thing on modern systems, but this time with 128GB on my main desktop 😛

And possibly using distcc on a 3950X with 64GB in parallel as well.

Curious how long it'd take to build an entire Linux distribution mass parallelized in RAM disks on modern systems.

[modern yoke]

holy moly, and at that time people were using HDD's right?

[copper notch]

Yup

UltraSCSI

I have 3x 10krpm disks here I used in RAID0 but nothing comes close to the speed of a ramdisk for that kind of stuff.

Another experiment I'm curious about is how much benefit X3D would give to improving compiler performance for this too. Back in the day Opterons were way faster than Clawhammer desktop chips due to larger caches, so it'd be interesting to compare base Ryzen to X3D too.

[copper notch]

Keep in mind, all tar is really doing is concatenating files into a file container, no compression. So really just measuring storage I/O, so it'll be a lot faster in a ramdisk than to hardware storage, limited only by memory bandwidth.

CPU shouldn't be doing much in that case.

[modern yoke]

I remember, I remember

But it still baffles me how slow windows is at doing the same task

[tall vapor]

reminds me that we're still waiting for dual CCD x3d

[tall vapor]

as long as it doesn't affect the speed at which recall can screenshot your desktop I'm sure MS doesn't care

[copper notch]

Using xz/bzip2/gzip compression along with it will exercise the CPU. I'm not sure what the current versions of the compressors do with regards to parallelism on the CPU, but I used to use variants that parallelized like pbzip or something and some others.

[modern yoke]

🤣 luckily my pc is not good enough for recall

[modern yoke]

but wait, can it do compression WHILE tarring? Because I thought it needed to make a tar first, then compress it, and THEN delete the tar?

[copper notch]

Yeah, I've seen a rumour of a new X3D chip with 128MB of L3 recently but I don't think that's the one. It would be doubling the L3 on each of the CCDs rather than tripling it.

[tall vapor]

doubling the per CCD x3d all while actually having it on both CCDs would already go a LONG way

[copper notch]

tar has commandline options to pass the output through a compression app automatically.

[tall vapor]

tbh

[modern yoke]

that is cool

[copper notch]

or you can manually pipe the output through a compressor

[tall vapor]

and yup, you can tar and compress in one swoop

well, piping it into the compressor is what the combined command does anyway p much

😅

[copper notch]

Yeah, but doing it manually you can specify commandline arguments to it to customize the compression

also, choose the exact tool (ie pbzip)

[modern yoke]

im a zstd glazer

[tall vapor]

hm pbzip looks to be rather, well, dead

[copper notch]

My usage of it is also quite dated

Hopefully the mainline tools all got updated to take advantage of modern processor parallelism by now unless someone fell asleep at the wheel. 🙂

I haven't kept up

[tall vapor]

fair fair

and ya, algorithms got swapped out multiple times along the way

plenty of factors at play here

[copper notch]

ugh

So, it still doesn't support parallelism it seems

[tall vapor]

this abt bzip2?

[copper notch]

I had been using some parallelized fork years ago, forget the name of it.

this is xz

[tall vapor]

hm. it does support it as of dec 2014 for compression and as of dec 2022 for decompression (xz)

[copper notch]

not seeing it for bzip2 either

[tall vapor]

though with older archives that don't have as well defined block headers can still only be unarchived single threaded

which does make sense

decompressing a single data stream with multiple threads working on it at once can prove to be iffy

let alone compressing

when it's a pile of files which are each compressed separately then yeah sure that's easy peasy no MT support needed just spawn x number of threads and you hand each of them a suitable fraction of the pile

[tall vapor]

okie so xz does support multithreadin these days, bzip2 very mucxh doesn't at least from what I can find&browsing the man file on my local u2d sys

[copper notch]

Compression is the time consuming part where paralleization is beneficial. Decompression is fast enough as it is.

[copper notch]

The xz manpage that came up on Google was the above screenshot, claiming to have the option for threads but not implemented. No idea if that is current or not but it was #1 google hit

[tall vapor]

yup yup. So compressing new archives with xz can be done in parallel cause those new files are properly formatted to do so, decompressing old files ah well so be it 😅

[tall vapor]

it's rather old then

[copper notch]

https://linux.die.net/man/1/xz

yeah, die.net seems to be out of date, tht's good to know as they come up as a top hit for most things

the arch linux xz manpage has a lot more options

I deflashbanged it:

[tall vapor]

yup, <5.4 defaulted to 1, >=5.4 defaults to 0

[copper notch]

Looks like bzip2 is still single threaded, so I'd probably still use pbzip instead, but since xz is significantly better, the use cases I'd have for making bzip2 archives would probably be quite limited.

[tall vapor]

tbh bzip2 support is only there for legacy support reasons these days

[copper notch]

I typically make my own archives in the most modern archiver format for efficiency, so I've been using xz/7zip for about 20 years for the most part.

yeah

And if I find archives in other formats, I convert them for my own uses

[tall vapor]

anything new and modern yer gonna check if zstd does what ya want before even bothering to check anything else. it's the most sane default atm

under specific circumstances it might not be, but being suitable for whatever specific circumstance ain't what a sane default is

cause yeah, it going brrrr even at the cost of the final archive being ever so slightly larger at times just makes sense

I'd rather have my initramfs be a single MiB larger in exchange for boot not taking 20 seconds longer and rebuilds not taking forever

lel

same with package installs

grabbing a couple MiB more here and there in exchange for it going brr is sweet

especially cause it's a case of some packages ending up ever so slightly larger, some ever so slightly smaller

it averages out at the end of the day, all while being much faster

[copper notch]

For a mainstream software package / distribution I agree, you want to ship a default that the majority can be expected to be able to use, with long precedence. I would say on Windows systems that would be the ZIP format which is over 30 years old now. On Linux one could argue that .tar.gz would be the most comparable. However open source systems move more quickly and adopt new standards more rapidly as well, and so bz2/xz have been standardized and available for over 2 decades as well. I don't think one can go wrong by supplying archives in xz or bz2 formats in the open source ecosystem. In the extremely unlikely chance that some system out there doesn't have it, that can be rapidly rectified in moments. And in this scenario, I would consider it "not my problem" if it couldn't. The disk space and network bandwidth savings are substantial enough to warrant it.

But also, in the open source ecosystem one could "disagree" and it doesn't really matter because you can ship whatever you want, and do not need universal concensus. So there is no problem of concern.

If a new format sprung up that was 10-30% better than xz tomorrow, I would say such would be useful to people for personal use situations, but not for redistribution, at least until there is more open source ecosystem broad distribution, much like occurred with gzip over UNIX compress, bzip2 over gzip, and xz over bzip2 in the past.

Ultimately, the person wielding the tool gets to decide whether or not there is consensus out there.

Myself personally, would distribute Windows archives in zip standard, 7z as well. Linux, in xz format and probably nothing else.

I haven't used a Linux system in 20-25 years that didn't have xz being my guidepost.

[tall vapor]

I use zstd quite regularly. For archival purposes, my memory compression runs off of it, packages come in as zstd, initramfs is zstd compressed etc

do use 7z for sharing with others though since windows

[copper notch]

unfamiliar with zstd, but something for me to check out

[opaque halo]

<@&715347355565817879>

Thank you

[livid plover]

Lol related to all the compression talk, i jsut got a post for OpenZL - https://engineering.fb.com/2025/10/06/developer-tools/openzl-open-source-format-aware-compression-framework/

[still mica]

I remember there being an xml-specific compression algorithm like... 25 years ago... where basically you could describe your xml data format to it, and it would be able to use that extra knowledge to do some outright terrifying levels of compression with it. There's a lot of potential gains when you know (or can figure out) specific things about the data itself.

[livid plover]

Compression AI when /s

[modern yoke]

windows now natively supports compressing and decompressing zstd 🙂

same ease of use when viewing or decompressing it as regular zip. But to make them you do need to choose an "advanced" option

[tall vapor]

Most of the ppl whom I commonly interact with, when they do run windows, run windows 10

why the sobbing emote

[livid plover]

cuz they won't be on win 10 for long or cuz yet again the tech inept limit the future

[tall vapor]

true, these last couple of days I've seen yet more folk switchin to lin

and the only windows install that I got left (is a VM) will stay on windows 10 for plenty of time to come 🤷‍♀️

[wheat karma]

windows users limit the future

[karmic tiger]

lmfao

[livid plover]

damn, the unity security issue is making Unknown Worlds pull all old Subnautica versions from steam supposedly, which means all non-update mods will break and be permanently unplayable 😅 and also force nitrox into releasing their new version early

[livid plover]

<@&715347355565817879>

[amber sparrow]

[sterile flower]

Ugghhhh I'm going to have to choose either Win11 or some Linux thing

Either one seems pretty rubbish

[opaque halo]

I've had no issues with Win11 and have been using at home and at work for the past 18 months

[sterile flower]

On one hand Linux probably runs a lot better but I'll have to install the Linux versions of all of my software and potentially ditch some because they're not compatible

Or just get Windows 11, bloatware and all, and cope

[livid plover]

just quit on computering, it's a short lived fad anyway

[opaque halo]

Could go with a Commodore 64 and run everything from a floppy

and dial up

[sterile flower]

True true, wonder what the next fad will be

[sterile flower]

Hell yeah

Abolish all forms of social media, let's all go back to Pictochat

[opaque halo]

BBS

only active stream is of a coffee pot so people know when it's empty

[sterile flower]

Lol

[opaque halo]

I'm been using computers since the early 80s

[sterile flower]

Bopen Broadcasting Software?

[silver fable]

Too young to get the reference, bone. LOL

Bulletin Board System.

[opaque halo]

Bulletin Board System

[livid plover]

Boppin' broadcasting system

[sterile flower]

Wish I could have lived around that time instead of having to deal with... Whatever hellscape this is

[silver fable]

Back when bandwidth was measured in baud, and 1200 was fast.

[sterile flower]

Ohhhh right, lol

[livid plover]

and parallel port was considered high tech

[opaque halo]

the current timeline suck

[opaque halo]

VERY FAST

[silver fable]

And no, no you don't. Getting a CD-ROM to be seen by the computer took multiple lines, and troubleshooting, with no online search engine for assistance.

I started in the mid 1980s, and the computer has no hard drive, and only two 5 1/4" dives.

[sterile flower]

Agreed. I hoped the AI apocalypse would at least involve some cool metal skeletons but nope, no Arnolds or Roberts in sight, just an overflow of slop that pollutes everything you hold dear

[livid plover]

hopefully AI just hurries along some natural selection

[sterile flower]

Hope so

[livid plover]

but i guess all things considered we have it pretty okay

[sterile flower]

With any luck AI might just eat itself and die. There's already evidence of AI-generated images being used for training data of other AIs, so we can hope that they eventually inbreed and degrade in quality so much that they're no longer viable for replacing human-made stuff

[livid plover]

we'll still be left with a dead internet from the AI content flooding

[sterile flower]

But one without a constant influx of new AI content, so we could at least start the slow process of... Basically litter-picking across the entire internet

[livid plover]

invent a new AI to sort out the current-AI

[sterile flower]

I think AI is alright when used for the correct things. Helping an artist is fine, but straight-up replacing them is rubbish

[sterile flower]

I really hate that this sounds like a realistic thing that could happen

If we just take our brand new AI-powered productivity assistant (a big rock) and apply it to a realistic scenario (use it to smash up AI servers) in order to test its capabilities for maximising profit (destroy this awful godless creation once and for all)

[hard steppe]

I like birds

[tall vapor]

and cdroms were SLOOOWWWWW, and the drives were LOOOUUUUUUDDD, and the writeable ones still sucked (even the rewriteable ones!), and a truckload of them had less storage capacity than a single microsd card

and yeah, getting your computer to even recognise your CD drive to begin with 🙃

[opaque halo]

try carrying around a stack of punch cards and keeping them in the right order

[tall vapor]

no thanks, actually

[opaque halo]

it's akin to carrying your albums to a "sleep over" instead of just your phone

[sterile flower]

My PC still has a DVD-RW drive 😎

It's built into the case somewhat and there's no real reason to get rid of it so I've still got it lol

[opaque halo]

toss a floppy drive and a zip drive in it

[sterile flower]

I rarely have anything to play on it but when I do, it is so fun watching that little panel on the case open up lol

[opaque halo]

or if you wanna go OG, a tape or 8.5 floppy drive

[opaque halo]

There's an old file out there where it was something about Coke giving you a free can holder. When you clicked it then a .bat file would run and eject the CD tray out.

[sterile flower]

Yessss, I shall be the monarch of physical media! All shall bow before my just-about-useful ability to read data in all formats! I shall be unstoppable! Uuuunless you opened the damn slide-y bit on the floppy disc and made it unreadable

[opaque halo]

The "slidey bit" was a lock that kept you from writing to it, not reading it 🙂

[sterile flower]

Oh wait really? That metal bit along the top? I thought it was just to protect the disc from dust and stuff

[tall vapor]

no, Boneshooter is talking about the plastic slider that slides up&down

the write protect switch

fullsize sd cards still got those, too

flashdrives used to all have em

meanwhile nowadays folk be distributing media on flashdrives, all of which aren't write protected

lel

and then it's only crappy MP3s on there, even though it has enough storage to fit CD quality raw pcm wav files just fine

[wise bay]

Self-advertisement or advertisement for others is not allowed on this server unless it's directly relevant to a discussion or question. Please read the rules in the #rules channel.

[sudden adder]

<@&715347355565817879> scammy spam bot

[full fern]

Oh, this is interesting. A second chance for terminated YT channels.
https://blog.youtube/inside-youtube/second-chances-on-youtube/

tl;dr After waiting a year from being terminated a user can apply for a new channel. Depending on severity, they can start fresh.

[terse helm]

Additionally, this pilot won’t be available to creators terminated for copyright infringement

of course, because this is the worst thing you could possibly do

[prisma dove]

right....
"how dare you get caught stealing someone's protected content!"
<sarcasm font>

[tall vapor]

mhm, totally! And I say "totally" because I totally haven't been on youtube in the early to mid 2010s :>

I've never seen ppl on youtube post anything worse than, god forbid, there being a 5 second part of a song playing in the distant background

[sterile flower]

Ah ok

I've only ever seen a few floppy discs irl so I've never really touched the write protect switch lol

[sterile flower]

Now that's something I'm familiar with

[silver fable]

Remember using the hole punch trick on 5 1/4" disks?

[amber sparrow]

Haven't been this excited about a show on a hot minute

MCS rules!!!!

[tall vapor]

fun fact about that: "notching" a disk to make it double sided still only worked when the media inside actually was double sided still. Which was p much always the case once double sided disks came to be, even if the housing was a single side indicated one. Though commonly the reason as for why it was dual sided media in a single sided housing was due to qc failures, so it was a down-bin situation. Similar to how cpus that can't make it to be ryzen 7 chips end up being sold as ryzen 5

and notching them floppies reminds me of unlocking the amd triple core chips to make them quad core back in the day

sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't

[prisma dove]

Server Icon: Spooky mode.

[still turret]

Hm, I thought I updated the banner too.

[prisma dove]

There it is 👍

[karmic tiger]

it updated on my end

[still turret]

There we go.

It was in a different spot, heh

[full fern]

Yay!!! 🐈‍⬛ 🎃 👻

[hard steppe]

Obs turned spooky now…. WOAGH……

[full fern]

🎶 It's the most wonderful tiiiiiiiimmmmme,

Of the yeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrr! 🎵

[uncut sand]

Why is server icon piss-colored now?

jk

Oh it's meant to be Halloween lol

[civic quarry]

[karmic tiger]

if your piss is that color, go see a doctor

[bold glen]

👆 or drink much more water over the day!

[civic quarry]

👆

[vapid tinsel]

<@&715347355565817879> ☝️

Thank you!

[upper smelt]

any body know how to see overlay trans parent chat in game when streaming on yt

[karmic tiger]

https://github.com/baffler/Transparent-Twitch-Chat-Overlay

[marsh helm]

There are some meds that can cause it

good friday!!

im sloowly starting to feel better i think

i got a lot done healthwise in the last month woo

oh PEN

i saw this cool dragon

[karmic tiger]

oooh derg?

[marsh helm]

https://imgur.com/gallery/cardboard-dragon-ib52Kjc

[karmic tiger]

derg!

[marsh helm]

yeah its really cool

[karmic tiger]

yeeee

@uneven spear

[marsh helm]

i hope this becomes normal

[karmic tiger]

derg

[marsh helm]

this could be 3d printed and put on ceiling in schools or libraries and stuff

when im laying in bed feeling sick i try to think about how I would design certain things like schools or hospitals

and i saw that and uh this thing

these wre at a doctors office

they are pressed plants between a plane of acrylic

they were mounted to the walls and around the desks that you check in

and used as a huge room divider

i found them really cool because you got to really see the little viens in the leaves and detail you cant normally see

some of them had wheat seeds

I think stuff like this should be what schools look like

everywhere should be showing how the world works

[karmic tiger]

💜

[marsh helm]

And if we put enough dragons around schools then they will grow up to make dragons

Dragonriders of Pern

[gentle trail]

why is obs spooky now

[vapid tinsel]

October, Halloween.

[gentle trail]

yippee

[brisk spire]

i was gonna say the same thing

[still turret]

because I am spooky

oooOOOooOOOo

[marsh helm]

https://www.tiktok.com/@otterfan05/video/7160837420450073861

Happy Otterween

[hard steppe]

Guess what I’m trying to play… cries…

[marsh helm]

that looks hard

I want to learn to play the native american flute

[void gale]

do u use speakers or earphones or headphones to listen music or anything from ur pc in general?

[hard steppe]

No

[valid verge]

anyone with OBS that also plays Battlefield 6? I have a question regarding it and that game

[wise bay]

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

[karmic tiger]

<@&715347355565817879>

[shell hound]

Damn, what's with elgato removing their audio library....

[terse helm]

why is this a video

also you can't use any of those while taking a shit

[livid plover]

you could if you had a bathroom tv

[prisma dove]

Or a long cord for the controller and a view of the tv

Or, the tv and game console are on a cart, and you can wheel it to the throne room when nature calls.

[wheat karma]

That's what the Gameboy was for

[tall vapor]

playstation&dreamcast before wifi

uuhhh.... sorry to break your bubble, buuutttt....

the playstation came out a couple years before the official wifi specification, yes, but we already has some proprietary standards at that point that gave you pcmcia cards (technically they were called pc cards, but commonly referred to as pcmcia cards) that let you connect to the associated access point wirelessly (also there were some wifi devices that came out before the standard was fully ratified)

:>

or.... or you're one of those ppl whom be like "wifi == internet", in which case it's even more wrong

[livid plover]

or didn't have wifi for the first many years it existed

[tall vapor]

well yes

just looks to me like one of those "oh look the good old days" memes made by ppl born in like 2009

[silver fable]

I could play multiplayer SNES games on the console itself, natively, back then.

Latency was an issue for fighting games, obviously.

[tall vapor]

that still works perfectly fine when I usb-c le steamdeck to downstairs family TV, to be fair

only with games that do local multiplayer though

makes sense, since modern AAA games barely manage to render a single screen

[reef summit]

@bold glen no need to discuss with them I think

That kind of "discussion" will probably just go on forever

[bold glen]

yeah i think i get the point, it goes in cycles.

[reef summit]

You’re probably just wasting your own time, heh

[bold glen]

In this case, it seems that showing how to theme it self, seems good enough.
In the last time, is see more often, the argument with free user choice is getting as a Joker argument.

That developer have to maintain that things and it's cost time, is not consider a possibility. It "feels" that people think, there is a consperincy against users. That for example obs developer invest time, to be bad humans. Instead of streamlined development and save some time for other things... 🤷

[wanton coral]

WRONG

[sudden adder]

Bidet in the Life of a Streamer

[sweet totem]

what's the theme of the discord logo?

oh halloween

[opaque halo]

woops 🙂

[open rune]

I hate helicopters

[opaque halo]

Tried the sniper move with not sticking the barrel out the window but the trail gave you away 🙂

[open rune]

Gonna need a better roof

[opaque halo]

big rounds, big smoke 😛

[amber sparrow]

Sometimes temu actually doesn't disappoint? $7 golf shirt(thats usually minimum $25?)

[silver fable]

Still rockin' the DT770's, I see. 👍

Wait, are these the 990s?

[prisma dove]

those eyes

[full fern]

Your face is so fun. I like it

[vapid tinsel]

Ouch.

[vapid tinsel]

This should be your Discord profile photo. Seriously.

[silver fable]

[compact lark]

checking out presentmon (no overlay enabled), was curious how consistent some sources might be, like video player renderers or games
vlc and wmplayer were not seen by it

[amber sparrow]

Did it work?

[silver fable]

Indeed.

[vapid tinsel]

Yes! 🩷🩷🩷🩷

[carmine ibex]

I don't understand the crazy engagement stuff Temu displays to you.. that's what I don't like about it

like "spin to get x off your order!"

[silver fable]

You don't understand advertisements via supposed incentives?

[livid plover]

It's so much it's a chore to get to buy anything on there i found

[carmine ibex]

what is the one bell-like instrument here? I originally thought bell, but I don't think that's the case...

[sudden adder]

that sounds like it could be a xylophone

[carmine ibex]

mmm, maybe, ty!

idk, xylophone sounds harsher from what I'm hearing.. it does seem close, though
it's some form of instrument like that

[livid plover]

there's a whole world of percussion out there

anything that makes sound is an instrument

[civic quarry]

Is mayonnaise an instrument?

[livid plover]

does it make a noise? then yes.

[sudden adder]

that could also depend on the sticks being used to hit the notes. they make softer ones as well

[hard steppe]

[karmic tiger]

sounds more metallic than xylophone imo so maybe vibraphone?

[vapid tinsel]

Good morning! 🌞 👋🏻 🚶‍♂️ 🐶

[carmine ibex]

maybe

xylophone is at least not that inaccurate to say

[copper notch]

Yep, it's a vibraphone:

(yeah, I was bored...) 🙂

[opaque halo]

NERD!!

[copper notch]

😛

[opaque halo]

Honestly, nice work. Cool that it's possible to do somethign like that.

[random finch]

excuse me where can i get help?

[wise bay]

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

[random finch]

Thank you!

Hm, can i ask here?

[karmic tiger]

no, ask in the support channels

[random finch]

ok

[livid plover]

<@&715347355565817879>

[karmic tiger]

jesus they are fkin active today

<@&715347355565817879>

[wheat karma]

u guys are fast

[karmic tiger]

oh mb on the ping I sent it the moment it got cleand

[copper pasture]

I never get to see anything fun, they're too fast

[prisma dove]

It's not "funny", never is.

[copper pasture]

I'm just joshin', I really respect the mods and it's a testament to how good they are that nobody ever sees these things unless you're watching the channel like a hawk

[upper smelt]

hello?

[karmic tiger]

no

[prisma dove]

Never

Not ever

These three day weekends are brutal on big community servers. Attracts bored people

[sterile flower]

It's spooky month, which means OBS is now the Ominous Broadcasting Software!

[livid plover]

broadcasting spooky to a browser near you!

[sterile flower]

Alternatively: Evil OBS, the one you have to pay a monthly subscription to use

[full fern]

<@&715347355565817879>

[rugged bluff]

halloween

[late surge]

Don't give Adobe ideas

[late surge]

Quite ominous how when I press record with some weird specific settings that are "lossless" that all of a sudden a large amount of hard drive space seems to vanish

Wonder how that happens

[wise bay]

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

[late surge]

It's a joke

I'm aware of what lossless means and why it wastes so much hard drive space

[livid plover]

Is it a waste tho gotta have all them pixels

[sterile flower]

😂

[tough elk]

What happens if I don’t decide to use their attribution link and use the text image anyway??

[marsh helm]

you should read their license

[karmic tiger]

you are breaking license terms and exposing yourself to legal troubles

ok, good for you, I don't really care?

[tough elk]

I will recreate it myself then

So I don’t get in trouble

[gritty cove]

Thank god for Microsoft Word's Wordart tool

[hybrid girder]

my obs is disconnecting and reconnecting constantly while streaming, does anyone know why?

[wise bay]

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

[vapid tinsel]

Good morning! 👋 🥱

[smoky rapids]

@marsh helm https://thangs.com/designer/LeHa Design/3d-model/Otis%2C the Flexi Otter - Magnetic Hand-Holding Companion-1219470

[marsh helm]

[drowsy mason]

Gamers Nexus going down the rabbit hole of visual smoothness in video games again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDnXe6N8h_c

The Problem with GPU Benchmarks | Reality vs. Numbers, Animation Error Methodology White Paper

[full fern]

I just started watching this!

[amber sparrow]

!ad no

[wise bay]

Self-advertisement or advertisement for others is not allowed on this server unless it's directly relevant to a discussion or question. Please read the rules in the #rules channel.

[compact lark]

appreciate developers noticing quirks on various hardware (as a 59.951 hz monitor owner)

[drowsy mason]

Yeah, it's just a lot more complicated than it seems like it should be at a glance

[vital hinge]

hello, i do have a question about youtube (somewhat OBS comes into this too), can I ask here?

[prisma dove]

You just did, and yes.

[surreal owl]

Eh, GIMP...

[marsh helm]

wats going on O_O

[vital hinge]

ok ill go ahead and ask then, does Youtube ban accounts for downloading member-only videos with tools like yt-dlp? im asking because i got gifted a membership (idk how) to a channel im interested in and it expires in a few days. recording each video via obs would take too much time, so if Im using a tool like that can YT ban my account? e.g. tool like this: https://gist.github.com/sathishshan/79b850c8cb14190c37d199a564611bd6

all of this is for personal viewing only of course

[terse helm]

I've never heard of it happening but they can

[summer copper]

Happy Columbus Day!!!

[copper pasture]

it was yesterday

[summer copper]

Lmfao well excuse me. My phone says 11:00 PM anyway.

[copper pasture]

ah got it lol

I guess you are in the very leftmost of the timezones

[long siren]

hi guys im switching from bandicam to obs

[long siren]

ouch.

[sudden adder]

!new the Quick Start guide is a big help, as well as the other guides listed below.

Do keep in mind that OBS is a vastly different beast from
bandicam

[wise bay]

✨ If you're new to OBS Studio:

• follow the Quick Start Guide to set up your first scene and get streaming/recording
• learn more about the interface in the Overview Guide
• follow the Stream Layout Tutorial series to create a stream-friendly layout, including setting up alerts and a chat box

🎞️ If you prefer to learn with videos, check out:

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[long siren]

thank you !

thats cool! but how can i get them into mov format? i edit stuff with final cut so its nice to use mov

[sudden adder]

!mp4 You would select the MOV format from OBS Settings > Output i believe. Though it is best to use a recoverable format during recording, and convert to a more editor compatible format afterward.

Hybrid MP4 is the recommended container format for that these days

[wise bay]

Record to FLV or MKV. If you record to MP4 and the recording is interrupted, the file will be corrupted and unrecoverable. If you require MP4 files for some other purpose like editing, remux them afterwards by selecting File > Remux Recordings in the main OBS Studio window.

[jaunty fulcrum]

May I interest you in Hybrid MOV in 32.0? 😉

[sudden adder]

Forgot that was a thing, lol

[civic quarry]

I didn't know

[long siren]

bot?

inside this server multiple alt as seen in 2nd ss

[wise bay]

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[long siren]

okay! i dmed a mod about it tho c:

will go report them now

[karmic tiger]

<@&715347355565817879>

[still turret]

sigh, they changed filenames again

[shrewd spire]

surely did

[carmine idol]

hello

[smoky rapids]

not image png?

[karmic tiger]

nah

[sterile flower]

Potentially dumb question incoming but here goes. Is an Aspire TC-603 motherboard compatible with an RTX 3050 StormX?

[sudden adder]

motherboard might support it, but is the case big enough to fit it?

[sterile flower]

I've currently got a GTX 1060 6GB in my PC and a friend has a 3050 StormX that they'll give to me, if it will actually work with my PC that is

[sterile flower]

Oh the case is pretty big. It has a DVD-RW drive built-in horizontally lol

[sudden adder]

actually looking at the card, the StormX is a shorty, so it should fit in there no problem

thats what I get from a search for the case. That in-built drive rack take a lot of the space away, but the StormX is smol

[sterile flower]

Here's a picture of my case from a while back. The 1060 is there at the bottom

Dammit, embed fail

[sterile flower]

Oh yeah that'll probably fit. I'm pretty sure my current one is bigger than that so should be fine

What about power supply and connectors and all that? I'm quite inexperienced with PC building so idk what I need to know before I just shove it into the case lol

[summer copper]

ye

[gritty cove]

I was thinking of getting one for my Windows 7 PC, because we still have them in stocker here, and according to Nvidia there is driver support for it under Windows 7

And the price was more justifiable than seeing people selling used Geforce 16 series for 60% of the 3050's retail price

[carmine ibex]

yeah, resolution too high
max is like 9800x9800, or something

[carmine ibex]

just saw the reply, thanks for looking at it
btw, I think I figured out what openvino is, it's just demucs v4... which is... old
you can get drastically better results using something else now, a lot of models only do instruments or voice, though, not a split of drums, bass, etc.
still, even for that, there's much better options now

[marsh helm]

i ordered an ocarina

my first instrument in a long time

[copper notch]

Any suggestions? I've been meaning to look around for local open source alternatives but didn't search around yet.

I just found one called Stemroller

[carmine ibex]

haven't tried this yet but it's one of the recommended ones, you can use with UVR https://huggingface.co/jarredou/BS-ROFO-SW-Fixed/tree/main

I'm trying it right now

not sure it's better than demucs.. need to try more songs

the song I tried was not very good to test with

can't find where I put those songs...

meh, I can't tell, I think demucs is a tad bit better... which is weird

I know there's better options than demucs, but I think options are limited if you want something local and free...

if you want just instrumental/vocal separation, I'm much more knowledgeable on that and I know of models that are drastically better than demucs

hmm

seems like it really likes it when there's no vocals, worked well when I used a true instrumental of the song instead of the full song

think it's better on this song, as long as vocals are removed

yeah, idk, tbh, maybe not a great song, too

the truth is I've only ever needed two stem separation

[copper notch]

For myself, my personal needs for stem separation are: runs local in Windows, free of cost, at least 4 stems (bass, drums, vocal, other), compatible with my hardware. Preferences also: GPU acceleration on my GPU, performs well.

My use case for stem separation is isolating musical instruments for music transcription. So it needs to be good enough to work as good or better than whatever I'm using at the present in my music nerd stack. 😛

I used OpenVino originally as it was the first one I found and was free and open source. It worked on my NVIDIA GPU initially although Intel shit canned support for NVIDIA later on.

Also useful for isolation of vocals for reuse in covers etc. Or for removing them to have instrumental for practice or other purposes.

[copper notch]

I'll have a look at that

[carmine ibex]

the isolation of vocals or all instruments is what I'm more known with

[copper notch]

Thanks to you, I did do some googling myself just out of curiosity and I found a program called StemRoller that is open source and runs locally. No viruses found. LOL I tried it out and it supports CPU and GPU but did not seem to work on the Radeon, and used CPU instead, but... it still did the job in less than 5 minutes which is record breaking from what I'm used to so that's good. Have not tested the results yet. It uses Demucs and others apparently.

So thanks for inspiring me to search again for something, this is a HUGE improvement from what I'm used to in performance at least. About to test quality...

[carmine ibex]

the roformer one should be better than demucs, but... I got kind of mixed results, idk..
as for just isolating vocals, I'd suggest ensembling voc_fv4 and big beta 6x
and for isolating all instruments, I'd suggest inst fv4
if primarily piano, resurrection inst is probably better (less noise)
try UVR, it has demucs pre-installed (I think for the fine tuned version, you can download through the application)

[copper notch]

So far it sounds great!

OMG this is 10x faster than OpenVino

[carmine ibex]

nice

personally, using YT audio to me is.. meh.. the result will be fine.. obviously not the best
I'm unusually picky, though 😅

[copper notch]

Oh wooooow... Stemroller supports 2 extra tracks, piano and guitar experimentally

I just had to.

[carmine ibex]

the full instrumental is probably bad, demucs really doesn't seem to be made to just combine them all

[copper notch]

I'll compare it with combining all the separate stems myself using Audacity. Should just be a matter of mixing the tracks together into a single track, then phase inverting it and subtracting the instrumental track from it. What's left should be the noise of any differences.

So far the sound quality seems on par with Intel's OpenVino, but it is way faster so I'll take that for sure. The 6-track version is marked experimental, and the Demucs github has some comments about that. It does guitar fairly well, but piano is iffy. I have tried it with a few tracks, but they didn't really align with the guitar+piano paradigm so didn't help much. I'll have to try some other tracks that make more sense with it.

I'll probably end up doing both 4-track and 6-track variants though because more tracks are more options to hear things in isolation when transcribing. Isolation is more important than perfect audio quality in this use case also.

[carmine ibex]

if you want the full instrumental, use something else
as for isolating different things, yeah, it's probably fine
I'll need to test the bs roformer one some more, I expected better

[copper notch]

This is great for now for what I do, but I'll always be looking for better open source tools too. Will be nice if/when they can isolate like 10 instruments and even isolate individual guitars.

Right now I manually isolate individual guitars to some degree using the stereo field, so AI should be able to do that 100x better in theory.

So what I do is use AI to isolate stems, and THEN refine it by trying to isolate instruments in the stereo field from the stems.

that introduces some digital noise but it is good enough for music transcription purposes.

[terse helm]

man

I hate the new youtube ui

I can't just flick my mouse to the bottom right corner and un-fullscreen

[jaunty fulcrum]

I keep seeing other people with it and I think it removes so much usability

[terse helm]

I mean all the buttons are still there and it even works with sponsorblock but they're just

larger and placed more inwards

for no reason

the scrub bar is halfway up the video now

vs

fun fact because youtube is an SPA so long as you don't reload you can use the old ui

[jaunty fulcrum]

yeah I want my video overlays out of the way, not closer to the middle of my screen

[terse helm]

indeed

[copper notch]

Hmm, my YT hasn't changed... they must be rolling it out bit by bit to people

Whatever they do, I'm sure 15 minutes later there will be 27 Firefox addons to let people change it back to the way it was etc. though, so not worried.

I'm already using 9 addons on YouTube, what's 1 more LOL

[smoky rapids]

Birb

[jaunty fulcrum]

Yeah, they are.

Worse is the TV app, where the old one defaults to the timeline and pressing the arrow buttons skips back and forward. In the new one, it defaults to a play/pause button, so you have to first press any button to bring up the UI, then up to go to the timeline, and only then can you press left/right.
.. which is stupid because you can already pause with the OK button on the timeline.

[copper notch]

I wonder if I can get more 3rd party javascript running on youtube.com than Google has on it

[jaunty fulcrum]

hmm, that's a high bar. probably possible. tizentube probably comes close.

[terse helm]

at what point are you just re-implementing it though

[patent herald]

So I built a soundboard scene that I added as a source into another scene. each sound is hotkeyed as well and works with the keyboard. When assigning the “hotkey” action to my streamdeck it will work when I press the keyboard button. However when I try to click the actually streamdeck led button on the unit, it does nothing. Am I missing a step??

[wise bay]

For help with Elgato products, please submit a ticket with them directly at https://help.elgato.com/hc/en-us/requests/new. They also have a community Discord server.

[amber sparrow]

So 25h2 is rolling out, eh? I'm still on 23h2

And no fault of my own. Windows refuses to deploy it to me

[livid plover]

Reinstall time

[amber sparrow]

Nah. If they don't want me to have it, I'm fine. Nothing in it I "need"

[smoky rapids]

Dont

Update today broke localhost login

[carmine ibex]

Is Twitch forcing watch streaks? Wtf

[livid plover]

forcing?

[carmine ibex]

Yeah, it got enabled for two channels that didn't have it before
Guessing at the very least, they switched it on
Maybe it's not forced

[left mulch]

nah you just have something old that is broken with it probably, most likely something you don't even use.

fresh install time

[amber sparrow]

Nah

23h2 was a clean install. Likely old eac traces still

Just not inclined to fully yeet that to update

System runs juuuuust fine and security updates still happen. There was nothing in 24h2 that said "yes I need that"

[tall vapor]

when need be to update you can always just grab the latest iso&run setup from there

[amber sparrow]

Yer. That'll be the play "when" needed

From this

To this

[full fern]

Pretty!! Nice work!

[still turret]

did your house come with the pool or was it an addition you did?

[amber sparrow]

Not my pool, I'm poor. The company I work for has a pool company, and currently I'm stuck running it 🙁

I atm am forced into cleaning other people's pools

[still turret]

Ahhh.

[amber sparrow]

Are you thinking of having one installed?

They are stupid expensive atm. And unless you get one of those really awesome low rate pool loans(or have 100 grand to spare), usually not worth it imho

Pools that are 100 grand now were like 40 grand 6 years ago. It's kind of insane

And they almost never increase the home value anywhere close to the cost of install

[still turret]

Was debating it, yeah.

But probably not worth it for how much I'd actually use it, that style you posted is what I would have gravitated towards

But I think going for a sunroom and then maybe a hot tub is the better bet.

[amber sparrow]

Unless you have kiddos that will use it as cheap entertainment over the summer, sun room + hot tub certainly sounds like the better bet

[copper pasture]

rather than a pool I'd love to have my own Japanese bathhouse tub

a nice one with mt. fuji painted on the tiles

[vague shadow]

anyone know servers to find video editor

[amber sparrow]

Try fiverr

[vague shadow]

want a discord

[opaque halo]

Are you looking for someone to edit your videos, or a software / application for you to edit videos?

[vague shadow]

someone to edit short videos

[opaque halo]

Yup, check fiver or other "for hire" sites.

[carmine ibex]

why

[amber sparrow]

Why what. Kind of a weird screenshot with no context

That it's on auto? Ask twitch

YT does the same tho sooooooo

[carmine ibex]

Transparent 💀

[terse helm]

try using more than one word at a time

[tall vapor]

Youtube is testing a new player style. I don't see it normally yet, but in a private tab I do as of like a week ago so that's prolly what they talking abt

[surreal owl]

Guys, I need a help with a weird type of an MKV file corruption. A family member of mine had a couple of personally important videos packed into MKV with AVC+AAC codecs. Last week he suffered a disk drive failure, but like 99% of his data was restored.

Here's the weird part. Most of the videos that he had are literally harmless and are fully watchable without a single corruption in the frame or sound. But for whatever reason some files just cannot be opened in any program. He sent me one such file for tinkering and when I try to check it with file command it is not recognised as an MKV file. I compared it to one of my OBS recordings and yep, it is totally corrupted.

The weird thing is that it's ~600mb big, means there is SOME data. And judging by the fact that every other video is completely intact, I could assume that something is wrong with the file header and not the file itself. But for this reason literally every program I try straight up refuses to open this file, stating that it's not an MKV file.

I tried fixing it with FFMPEG - did not work, I tried MKVToolNix - same thing, same error, says it's not an MKV file.

If I will try and open this file in Nano and manually fix the header, is there a chance to restore it?

Asking because it takes a hell load of a time to open and process it.

Trying to mess with HEX editor. By simply pasting the header from the playable file allowed VLC to at least see the length of the file, but not to play it YET. And judging by HEX output - yep, the data is there.

GUYS THE ISSUE IS SOLVED. HEX editing rules, I should definitely learn more about that.

I simply copied+pasted the header from another working file and with some corruption in the beginning the file now plays.

[prisma dove]

Congrats!

[copper notch]

boss level!

[surreal owl]

:D

Thanks ya all for believing in me

Yup, fast-forwarding thru the file, I see no corruptions. Seems like the headers got fucked for whatever reason. When I'll visit him again I'll copy all the corrupted files and perform the same "transplantation" to every file.

[left mulch]

@quartz lotus sorry we don't allow that here

[amber sparrow]

[wise bay]

Self-advertisement or advertisement for others is not allowed on this server unless it's directly relevant to a discussion or question. Please read the rules in the #rules channel.

[opaque halo]

<@&715347355565817879>

[full fern]

Usually when a mod tells me not to do something I don't go and do that thing again immediately LOL

Maybe later, but not immediately 😉

[still turret]

@quartz lotus I appreciate your dedication to the efforts, but this is a community around OBS Studio, streaming, content creation, and general broadcast tech talk. This is not the place for that kind of advertising.

You were asked to not advertise here once already, please consider this the final warning.

[quartz lotus]

👍

[drowsy mason]

RIP Windows 10 updates from MS

[opaque halo]

You can still get updates for Windows 10, if you are willing to pay.

[drowsy mason]

Oh, right

Or jump a couple hoops (back up some files with a Microsoft account) and they let you into the 1 year of updates "free"

Apparently folks in the EU don't even have to do the cloud backup thing, just need an MS account.

[opaque halo]

Different requirements for different regions / countries. TBH, I've been on Win11 for a while now and have had no issues - personal computers or work.

[drowsy mason]

A family member might have minor TPM-related performance issues on an old UEFI firmware they need for CPU compatibility, but could (probably?) be solved with a CPU upgrade, and it's hard to even be totally sure it's an issue since the system mostly works fine.

Other than that the Win 11 upgrades/installs I've seen have been going okay so far

[carmine ibex]

that's four people I've joined their stream and watch streaks are enabled now when they weren't before just a day or two ago
Twitch def hit the enable button

[smoky rapids]

@livid plover 🤖 be

For context that's partially from a post Fenrir made when he mentioned RE ping was made available.

[livid plover]

Well aware

[smoky rapids]

someone also joined the SE discord and did my message from about an hourish ago when I replied to someone else.

[carmine ibex]

tried another song, really good results
seems like it just varies.. it def has the potential to be superior to demucs
also, I'm comparing to the demucs ft (fine-tune), which def seems better

here's an example from a 4Everfreebrony song
I edited out some of the blank space

[copper notch]

I tried UVR but it was super slow on my system, probably using a single core (didn't check). It'll probably work better in the future on real hardware though. Did you have to download that module manually or was there a way to get it inside of UVR?

[carmine ibex]

did you use the beta version? that one supports AMD gpus

you also need it for the roformer models

[copper notch]

oh, no just whatever the default was, I'll go check for beta

[carmine ibex]

https://github.com/Anjok07/ultimatevocalremovergui/releases/tag/v5.6 scroll down to the beta link

[carmine ibex]

borny lol

[copper notch]

cool, thanks!

[carmine ibex]

also, I do think you might get better results if you convert to a full instrumental, first

use something like inst fv4 or resurrection inst (I can post the huggingface page if you want)

[copper notch]

I thought about using the 4-stem to make bass/drums/vocal/other, and then using the 6-stem to make piano and guitar, as sometimes it splits things wonky

(that was with demucs)

[carmine ibex]

oh yeah, here's piano

[copper notch]

My primary goal is just to have a decent enough free, open source tool for transcribing primarily guitar, but I've leaned towards full band transcriptions in the last couple of years so isolating more instruments is cool too.

[carmine ibex]

it's... not super great... I guess having to just isolate one instrument might be hard for it

[copper notch]

Would be nice to be able to extract a horn section

A lot of the time nowadays the stem separation alone is good enough for what I do, but when I want to refine the stems further, I use Riffstation Pro to hone in like a heatseeker LOL

I haven't found any software similar to Riffstation Pro yet, open or proprietary, free or paid, and it has been discontinued for years now although I preserved a copy before it got taken offline.

I paid $35 for it which was amazing value, then it became free 6 months later, and non-existent another 6 months later, kind of a bummer.

Someone used Claude to reverse engineer and recreate an application from 1990s that was commercial, defunct, and no source code successfully. I kind of hope maybe I can do that with Riffstation some day. 🙂

Oh hellll yeah, it is detecting the GPU now!

[carmine ibex]

for demucs, download this through the application

guessing this is 6 stems? gonna try it...

oof, yeah, the piano is rough... the bs roformer piano is waaaay better
guitar sounds okay

[copper notch]

yeah, that's it

Lot of Roformer models, not sure which one(s) to get

grabbing Viper-1297

Man, can't wait to get my network upgrade complete so I can download faster 🙂

[carmine ibex]

I wouldn't suggest any of those
they are from 2023

https://huggingface.co/GaboxR67/MelBandRoformers/tree/main/melbandroformers/instrumental try inst fv4
resurrection inst (not located here) can be good, too, but it makes everything muddy more than I like
is better for piano, inst fv4 is noisy with piano

[copper notch]

UVR is like Advanced Scene Switcher

[jaunty fulcrum]

I know the feeling

[carmine ibex]

err, hang on, might not be from 2023.. duh, it's the beta one
still, I don't think they are the best anymore

[copper notch]

hrm... Inst_FV4 is the only file that doesn't have security scan check info

[carmine ibex]

segment size, keep at default
overlap, higher=less artifacts, lower=crisper
generally 2 to 3 for instrumentals, 2 to 16 for vocals

[carmine ibex]

it's missing protect AI, the other 3 passed

[copper notch]

doesn't show here at all

[carmine ibex]

I think something is going weird with the protect AI one, I think it's still queued on the other one I linked, and that model was posted 2 months ago

[copper notch]

Oh, I see, I misinterpreted the icons

I wonder how many days it takes for them to pass scans

Have you tried SCNet?

[carmine ibex]

that's a good question, I don't know why it takes months

I haven't

although, again, my desire is getting a full instrumental
that one seems to be more about a separation

eh, I guess it does both

[copper notch]

blah, the model I downloaded needs more than 8GB of VRAM LOL

[carmine ibex]

AMD might have issues with vram.. you can try a lower segment size
uh, the default for inst fv4 is... maybe already around 1000 :/

technically, I don't think the roformers use segment size, they use chunks
the segment size just controls the chunk? that's what I was told, I think...

inst fv4 is only taking 3gb of vram on my Nvidia card (not counting the vram already being consumed)

[copper notch]

ugh, 32GB of RAM sucks

It's fine for doing one or two things at a time etc. but it is power user hell

[carmine ibex]

aye, I want more than 64gb
especially since I run SheepIt, sometimes run that while doing other ram heavy stuff

[copper notch]

I could do everything I do in 64GB comfortably, and only occasionally dip a bit into swap. I opted for 64GB for the 3950X build in progress because finding 128GB kit of DDR4 was getting impossible without overpaying or getting crap RAM, but 64GB should be ok on that system. The 128GB system has a lot of nice padding to stretch the elbows.

When I build a Zen 6 system in the future, if they finally have the chips and boards that can support 4 sticks simultaneously to max out the board, I may go for 256GB if there is no major speed drop like AM5 suffers presently.

Hopefully RAM prices will drop by then as well, although that seems less likely.

[carmine ibex]

eh, there was some cheap ddr4 recently.. just goes quick

less and less it's coming up, though...

yeah, Zen 6 should have better RAM management than Zen 5... that is one area where Intel is better

at least, I'm hoping

[copper notch]

I had some kit lined up 128GB for $400CAD, and it was only 3 days before I finally decided, and it was out of stock. 🙁 I had secondary kit to fall back on, ordered that and was informed after the order it was a special custom order, not cancellable, no ETA on backorder. 2 days later the original RAM was back in stock, but I couldn't cancel the special order. 2 weeks later they cancelled my order as no longer available, and the original RAM was no longer avail either.

Searched every shop in Canada, couldn't find what I wanted. Ended up deciding to look for 4x16GB kit to do 64GB instead and found it right away, 3 left in stock so I grabbed it fast and got it.

[copper notch]

Rumoured to have dual controllers, and with speeds of 8000MT/s+ allegedly so it seems promising, but will require new motherboards likely in order to not be flakey

I'm guessing we'll see an X970E chipset anyway

[livid plover]

even with 64GB i'm still deep in swap after a week or uptime or more. #thanksWinblows

[jaunty fulcrum]

is it the fault of Windows or the fault of some rogue app you have running in the background?

[livid plover]

it's something deep inside that you can't really point out from the digging i've tried doing, with a mix of shitty idle games/chrome ontop not helping any

doesn't show up in comitted memory under a process, but the memory is just gone to something that doesn't list it

like you can go over the process lists and the number just don't add up anymore somehow

[copper notch]

For me, I'm just using that much RAM with my collection of open apps. I did have a leak a few weeks ago though, forget what it was

If need be I'll just bump my swap file +32GB more

[livid plover]

going from 32 to 64 atleast meant i wouldn't need to reboot before starting a ram-heavy game anymore 😂

[copper notch]

I do have a really old OBS on this machine still that I need, and it leaks too, but I'm aware of that one and can reset it as needed.

Not sure how to do it, but I might be able to use GP editor to restrict max RAM on the process

[livid plover]

when i have some logitech software that often would start eating ram i just used process Lasso or similar to set a rule that if ram > 256mb, stop and restart it

[copper notch]

@carmine ibex I got Demucs working with GPU accel now, using all 8GB of VRAM. She be cookin. 🙂

It seems like it will do the conversion in about the same time as the song, which is fantastic.

maybe slightly quicker

[carmine ibex]

I don't understand why AMD takes so much vram :/

[copper notch]

It took 4:43 to process the song, which is 3:41

Getting a song done in <= 10m is boss. I can fire it up, work with the original audio for a few minutes, then replace it with stems, this is great. I used to have to wait 30-60m

or more

I think the 6700XT is progbably 30% or more faster than the 5700, so when I'm able to switch to that it should bring stemming close to 1:1 ratio

[carmine ibex]

????
that's a crazy amount of time

says it's using shared memory :/

that will slow it down... a lot

I guess that's the ft version? that one does take a lot longer

oh, wait, I was doing sample mode

nah, still faster, only took 10 seconds to process a 4 minute song with the non ft version
but 25 seconds for the ft version

[copper notch]

naw, it is the base model. I just found the settings and tweaked them to try to improve it

You're probably using a GPU with tensor cores?

I'm on Radeon 5700 ATM

[carmine ibex]

I doubt it uses the tensor cores

CUDA def helps, though

also, tensor cores gives... maybe like 1.5-2x speed boost

[copper notch]

ok, it's slower now but I changed settings that may improve quality

[carmine ibex]

shared memory will slow it down.. a LOT
so... trying to reduce that would help
I don't understand why it's taking so much ram, though

takes 500mb of vram for me

default segment

the application may have 500-1000mb loaded, but that's it

[copper notch]

There are other apps using VRAM

I just shut down Firefox and it freed up a few gigs

yeah, I set it to 20 shifts and enabled spectral inversion which it says improves quality but is slower

You can make configuration profiles, so you know what I can do... I can set up one profile for fast stemming and crank out a song in 3 minutes or whatever, and a more in depth stemming that uses better algo, etc. but may take a half hour or whatever, and then switch stems when it is done

Can hear most things easily enough from any stems, so just getting something going quick is all that is needed, but having more refined stems for hard to hear parts in the polishing stage would be nice too.

[carmine ibex]

don't forget about the bs roformer one, too
that might be a little slow, though.. it only takes like 30 seconds on my 4090 with 2 overlap, but... idk, if AMD has vram issues, that could be an issue...

[copper notch]

I couldn't get the one I downloaded to work, will have to grab some others and play with configs

[carmine ibex]

was there an error? I do know some models have issues on AMD cards

[copper notch]

VRAM error, but there are options for tweaking that I think

[carmine ibex]

:/

[copper notch]

Once I get this all figured out and pimped out, I'll have to revisit some previous songs and restem them and go over the transcriptions again to refine/polish

Guitar Pro 8 supports a single audio track, which was great but is also limiting. I hope GP9 adds the ability to have multiple audio tracks, then I can load all the stems into it and switch between them

Not sure what's up with that, but that's not cool

More meaningfully:

[wary holly]

does it protect ai from you?

[copper notch]

Certain types of AI models can contain executable malware

https://www.rapid7.com/blog/post/from-pth-to-p0wned-abuse-of-pickle-files-in-ai-model-supply-chains/

https://www.reversinglabs.com/blog/rl-identifies-malware-ml-model-hosted-on-hugging-face

[sudden adder]

like how an ASUS BIOS can contain Armory Crate? 😄

[copper notch]

LOL!

That made be blow a snot bubble LOL

[carmine ibex]

eh, I wouldn't rely on that vram amount too much
I've seen false amounts
heck, it said Firefox was taking over 100gb of vram one time

[copper notch]

I presume it uses memory overcommit

So apps may allocate a bunch of memory and then not actually use it, but it shows up in their address space.

They only get it actually allocated when they pagefault it in

[carmine ibex]

well, it'd show up when you look at the gpu, then...

[cloud orbit]

I've been approached by a suspected spammer. His username is quick_baby00 and I suspect they're impersonating the content creator. We have the OBS discord server in common, and they probably found me through this discord server.

[wise bay]

If you were messaged by a user who you suspect may be malicious, scamming, a bot, etc, we recommend reporting these users to the Discord Trust and Safety team so that they can be addressed appropriately. We strongly encourage users to be mindful of DMs they receive from users who are in any public Discord server.

Please report any suspicious private messages to Discord, either by using the Report Spam button in a DM, or by reporting it directly to Discord Trust and Safety

[livid plover]

if you want to avoid future random friend requests, it'd be best to turn off friend requests/DM's from any large public server you're in as discord's default settings aren't very well thought out with regards to that

[vapid tinsel]

Good morning! 🌞 👋

[vital python]

Italiani?

[livid plover]

english only, sorry 🙂

[narrow phoenix]

hey

[drowsy mason]

AMD working on ARM APUs, hmmb https://www.techpowerup.com/341848/amd-sound-wave-arm-powered-apu-appears-in-shipping-manifests

I feel they are doing the Apple thing, where they downtalk a popular but not-invented-here tech while they are actively R&D-ing implementing it in their own product lines, so they can claim it was actually an uncool tech the whole time until the day before they release it, when it is suddenly revolutionary. Meanwhile if they fail to bring it to market they have only badmouthed their competitors.

Meanwhile I feel ARM is probably more useful business-to-business/embedded/industrial use-case at this point (if even that) than as a consumer Windows machine thing. So maybe not about to replace people's PCs imminently.

[tall vapor]

wasn't sound wave something that they make cuz ms wants it for their surface line? or well, side project to not get market share taken away by qualcomm all while still having your main zen lineup

amd made some ARM based opterons way back when, but they didn't really sell but yeah

Wouldn't surprise me if soundwave was p much "Zen, but with ARM instrdec&such"

[drowsy mason]

Hmm, a source says yep https://www.guru3d.com/story/amd-enters-arm-market-with-sound-wave-apu-built-on-tsmc-3nm-process/

According to leaks from industry insiders such as @Moore’s Law Is Dead and @KeplerL2, “Sound Wave” is manufactured on TSMC’s 3 nm node and aims for a 5 W to 10 W TDP range, positioning it directly against Qualcomm’s Snapdragon X Elite. The chip is expected to power future Microsoft Surface products scheduled for release in 2026.

The socket is similar to what they used for Steam Deck. Seems like they are happy to wait for other big companies to tell them this stuff is relevant to them and not push it super hard outside of that.

[vapid tinsel]

<@&715347355565817879> ☝️

[tall vapor]

yeah, that makes sense seeing as AMD is positioning themselves as a one stop shop for such things

[tall vapor]

"you want fpga things? we got that. You want x86_64 CPU cores? we got that. you want arm cpu cores? we got that too! You want gpus? oh absolutely, sure thing. You want a neural accelerator unit in there too? There ya go"

[drowsy mason]

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