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wise bayBOT
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If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

livid plover
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or it's EA or whoever trying to recoup their losses from another shitty NFS game so they put it on a 90% sale and it finally has some proper player numbers

drowsy mason
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Yeah, they are kinda crazy with the sales lately. If you already know you like the game then great, if you don't mind their app. Otherwise it has the feel of a fire sale, IDK.

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Still haven't played Titanfall 2, but I got it for a couple bucks one time.

amber sparrow
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Filet for vday

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Didn't get a Pic of mine which was on the more rare side of medium rare

terse helm
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y'all

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beat my score

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of 2

drowsy mason
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Very hard

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I ended up knowing where I was more by what color I was than by seeing the location clearly.

smoky rapids
marsh helm
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ppl be wild today

terse helm
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imma file a bug report, I just tried to set the replay buffer to 1 frame and it didn't work

carmine ibex
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160p, the color is dying
probably chroma subsampling artifacts doggolul

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hard to tell how much is also just compression, probably a significant amount of both

granite karma
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could i get any tips based on my pc specs for what kinda obs settings i should use?

wise bayBOT
violet tapir
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what is the best config for an vega 6 graphics

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?

wise bayBOT
# violet tapir what is the best config for an vega 6 graphics

There are no "best settings." Please understand that every setup, for every use case, will be different. Any guides or videos that claim otherwise are misinforming at best.

We recommend that you start off by using Auto-Config to get a baseline of where your settings should be; click on the Tools menu in OBS, select Auto-Configuration Wizard, and then just follow the on-screen directions. You can test and adjust from there.

violet tapir
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How do i start recording roblox?

wise bayBOT
# violet tapir How do i start recording roblox?

✨ If you're new to OBS Studio:

🎞️ If you prefer to learn with videos, check out:

wise bayBOT
violet tapir
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Why isnt obs putting roblox on the recording, it only appears a dark screen

drowsy mason
grave birch
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well thats lame

amber sparrow
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Well it's not really

left mulch
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lame but necessary yes

amber sparrow
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Prevents people creating accts and instantly streaming events like shootings and other bad shit

sterile flower
amber sparrow
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I may have just done the best burgers of my life on the grill

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Soooooooo good

full fern
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Mail me one. I'm sure it will be fine.

amber sparrow
worldly adder
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help me

amber sparrow
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If you need help with obs visit a support channel

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!s

wise bayBOT
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If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

full fern
silver fable
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Got a new car today. Grabbed an Audi Q3.

prisma dove
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shiny

full fern
silver fable
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After nearly getting flattened by a semi today, I thought it'd be a good idea.

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Totally reactive decision, and not proactive.

full fern
terse helm
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a month ago

silver fable
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Oh, no. Bought the Veloster in Aug 2021. Had it until today. Would have kept it longer, but it's really not made for snowy mountains.

terse helm
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hm must be thinking of someone else then

silver fable
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Yolo bought a new car from Carvana last month, I believe. I know he did, but not sure if Jan, or Feb.

terse helm
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ah yeah that was it

carmine ibex
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the wave at function in Discord seems broken to me
I don't see how forced pings make any sense

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I think servers should leave that disabled

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it can be like 5 to 10 waves over the course of a few hours in not small/socialable servers
a.k.a. 5 to 10 pings

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I think a lot of servers just don't realize how bad it is until someone tells them.. I know one server, that was the case.. once I sent a modmail in and explained it, they disabled it
kind of wild to me how this is still a thing, it just seems broken... guess it's called Discord for a reason

terse helm
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either that or you are vastly overstating the importance of pings

carmine ibex
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I mean, I got pings days later in some servers that had it enabled
it just... it doesn't seem good

terse helm
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yeah, so?

carmine ibex
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I think it should be disabled
you don't need the wave at function, you can still have a welcome channel that people can say hi, if they want
they can send a proper ping to you, if they want

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maybe there is a way to disable pings on your end, I never found out how

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(no, it's not right clicking the server icon)

terse helm
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tbh I think you're making mountains out of molehills

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a ping is nothing

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you're making it seem like if you get pinged there's a localised earthquake

carmine ibex
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I don't think ten pings over a few hours or even days later is a good thing

amber sparrow
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I don't understand getting butt hurt over pings(I like to use these pingus just out of boredom when pinged)

terse helm
carmine ibex
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it can be a bit overwhelming when you join a server and you keep getting pings and have to go back to the server and see someone waving at you, imo
yes, everyone is different

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I don't like getting bombarded with ten people saying hi when I join a server and notified about that every time...
sucks to be me, I guess

terse helm
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then imo your problem isn't with the wave function but with the join message function

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which yes, should be disabled in anything but small friend servers

carmine ibex
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if you don't get a ping about it, it can be easily ignored
I guess you can ignore pings and just let it pass over a day and then clear it.. but it just.. meh

full fern
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As with everything, I am late to the party in watching Star Trek Discovery. We only recently got access to Paramount+

What a cool Star Trek show, I've binged the first 5 episodes today. Absolutely love it. Lots of action.

terse helm
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STD is pretty good yeah

full fern
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Phrasing hahaha

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It's got so much of the old ST flavor.

silver fable
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If you like Season 1, you'll really enjoy 2 and 3, at least.

full fern
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Awesome, thanks!

wheat karma
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It had a lot of hate but like most things it's usually a lot of loud ppl jumping on the bandwagon

tender raft
livid plover
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yeah, they shouldn't have called them sexually transmitted diseases

terse helm
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star trek strange new worlds is pretty cool too

tall vapor
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the fact that std is the abbreviation for standard is also rather unfortunate, seeing that std also has meanings as an acronym

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Language sure is fun

wheat karma
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What about DST instead, "Diseases, sexually transmitted "

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Nobody wants to use daylight savings time anyway

terse helm
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saving

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it's not a bank account, you're saving daylight

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hence, daylight saving time

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this notwithstanding that DST sucks and we need to get rid of it

wheat karma
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I save all the daylight I can get cos uk

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More important than money

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Wish I could put it in an account

wanton coral
terse helm
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+1 is wrong, the correct time is winter time

wanton coral
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Nah I'd prefer it not to get dark at 15:30

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What's the point of living when you never see daylight because it gets dark around 3pm

full fern
wheat karma
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There's one epic scene in SNW

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When you see it you'll know

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The best 15s of my life

wise bayBOT
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livid plover
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hah knew that would come

left mulch
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the new operator does look cool

livid plover
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just reminds me i should buy some sunglasses. maybe just get that style of safety glasses with the yellow tinted lenses

grizzled basin
left mulch
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I can't believe I started playing that game 10 years ago.....

amber sparrow
left mulch
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oh man they totally just teased siege 2

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oh man they are showing something

livid plover
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another 10 years is a big goal to set

grizzled basin
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Siege X

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siege_1 ❌

left mulch
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okay, not siege 2 but an expansion of the same game....which I am happy about.

left mulch
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I would assume so but we will see march 13th I guess

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heh, thanks for posting that by the way I didn't know this event was happening

grizzled basin
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RIP my RTX 4090

livid plover
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it's fiiine, low quality settings exist for that

amber sparrow
quaint egret
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Whats ur fav dinner guys? I just had mine πŸ˜„

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(pizza!!)

quaint egret
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now

livid plover
vernal current
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if i have not watched boogie nights, should i? i only keep hearing good things about it

silver fable
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Yes, yes you should.

vernal current
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ill see if its available to watch

sterile flower
verbal tartan
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2.5 hours of footage to edit 😒

still mica
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ez

civic quarry
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hey i wonder if fedoras going to rebrand OBS builds on their system

karmic tiger
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unlikely

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someone can

opaque halo
hearty stirrup
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if you were trying for a ban speedrun, you basically can't get the world record time as a human

jaunty fulcrum
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yeah you've already lost the speedrun

opaque halo
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Find better things to do with your time.

scarlet kernel
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I got some new boots and they are so fucking good

still mica
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Niiiiice

scarlet kernel
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Doc Martens actually makes heels

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fucking crazy

livid plover
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Swag

stable forge
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Reminds me to buy hiking boots

crisp canyon
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what channel where i would go ask for obs help bc i need help figuring out how to make overlay shows twitch and yt chat

wise bayBOT
civic quarry
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can there be more multistreaming plugin for obs or can obs implement integration for multistreaming?

karmic tiger
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not counting se.live because I do not count it as a valid option

civic quarry
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aitum multiple rtmp streamway restream

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can there be more ?

prisma dove
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Vertical

karmic tiger
civic quarry
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i need more options for multistreaming i am currently on a free trial of the streamlabs desktop and it's ending next month

prisma dove
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How many in total?

civic quarry
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for 30 days

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about 3

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or 2

karmic tiger
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what in the current options does not work for you

prisma dove
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Aitum Multistream should give you 3, easily

civic quarry
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because it doesn't fit my needs

karmic tiger
terse helm
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I assume streamlabs isn't free enough

civic quarry
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tried that ran into an issue

karmic tiger
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dear lord

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what issue

prisma dove
karmic tiger
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please try to actually detail

civic quarry
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encoder overload

wise bayBOT
civic quarry
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or a network frame drop

karmic tiger
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pop by support and we can likely have a look at it

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but it's likely a limitation of your hardware/network, so more plugins wouldn't solve it

civic quarry
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i actually been addressing this issue and i had trouble resolving it

prisma dove
# civic quarry encoder overload

That's an resource issue of your pc, for encoder overload. Too many encoding sessions, one for each stream output plus each recording output. The more outputs you want, the better a pc you need.

civic quarry
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well streamlabs works fine with my pc

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while obs doesn't

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i can multistreaming

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with streamlabs

prisma dove
civic quarry
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i have two right now in the streamlabs

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my pc can only do 2-3

karmic tiger
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likely not using the same settings in streamlabs as you are in obs

civic quarry
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multistreaming

prisma dove
civic quarry
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well

karmic tiger
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(but once again people creating more plugins won't somehow solve your performance issue)

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that can only be solved by tuning your settings

civic quarry
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i did recently

terse helm
civic quarry
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adjust my virtual memory settings on my pc

prisma dove
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πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

terse helm
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none of this matters

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your pc and internet just aren't fast enough if you're getting both encoder overload and network frame drops

civic quarry
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i have a 16 gb

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ram

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i have 300 mbps

terse helm
civic quarry
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internet verizon fios

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its just that its shared

prisma dove
civic quarry
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which is my family internet

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wells thats pretty much why i am streaming to 2

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or three

prisma dove
# civic quarry its just that its shared

Try streaming to just one stream service, one at a time. Build up your channel and your audience at each one, just not all at the same time. Give each stream a quality look and feel to it. Don't try to divide your hardware and internet resources to 2+ streams at a time, giving each one an inferior quality.

still mica
civic quarry
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yes

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free trial

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the server of streamlabs does all the work

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of my multistreaming

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30 days

terse helm
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so just keep using that if it works for you

still mica
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Yeah, the reason that works is because you're only creating a single stream and sending it to one of their servers. Your system can't handle encoding multiple streams, so that's pretty much the only option you have.

left mulch
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yes, restream would be the same as well.

civic quarry
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ok

still mica
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And that kind of service will always cost money, because servers cost money.

prisma dove
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You want someone else to run the hardware/do the work for you? Got to pay up for the service.

amber sparrow
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!sources

wise bayBOT
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To learn about the various sources and how they work in OBS Studio, see the Sources Guide.

karmic tiger
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then, get hardware that can do what you want

prisma dove
civic quarry
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I cant do that

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Actually I am kinda out of options here

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Because my pc is what my parents bought me for Christmas present

prisma dove
karmic tiger
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you have two options : either pay a service to do the multistreaming for you, or do the multistreaming yourself but limit it to what your computer can do

civic quarry
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I am with streamlabs

prisma dove
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congrats

civic quarry
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But I cant seem to continue because it cost money

karmic tiger
civic quarry
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I am also in process of saving things up

prisma dove
civic quarry
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Yeah I know because I am desperate for these options

karmic tiger
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there is no other option than those two

prisma dove
civic quarry
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Because I do not have that much of a income

prisma dove
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Besides, does multistreaming help you in such a way that it is worth the risk of sending out an inferior stream?

civic quarry
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Whats a inferior streaming

prisma dove
civic quarry
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It is

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Good ones

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With streamlabs it is

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But not with obs

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I am also in a process of obtaining xsplit license

prisma dove
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Because with Streamlabs Desktop, you send one stream to them, and they do the multistreaming. With OBS, you and your pc do the multistreaming. Streamlabs does that as a service, so your pc can handle one stream.

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Do you understand the difference of one being a service and the other as active functions you have to manage on your pc?

civic quarry
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Ok

prisma dove
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"ok" is an odd answer to a yes or no question. I'll will assume it's really a "no" and you can enjoy the rest of your free trial.

civic quarry
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γ… 

amber sparrow
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Looks like xsplit is similar to aitum and multi rtmp

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So if those are causing overload, xsplit will as well

civic quarry
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Oh ok

amber sparrow
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And xsplit looks to be $200

prisma dove
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which brings you back to the two options for multistreaming:
Better hardware/internet upload
Pay for a subscription multistream service to do it for you.

amber sparrow
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So if ya can't afford the SLD price, xsplit is likely even further out of range

civic quarry
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I looked at that

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I currently just yesterday got a 25 dollar visa gift card

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From a family member

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They just gifted me that

karmic tiger
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ok, but you understand how literally none of this changes one iota to what we're telling you?

civic quarry
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But still not enough too get the subscription

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Yes I get it

karmic tiger
civic quarry
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I have the bitrate 2500

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Or somewhat on streamlabs

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If I go over than that

wise bayBOT
civic quarry
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I get frame drops

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And thanks obs bot

prisma dove
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Your hardware and internet are not very good at all for multistreaming from your pc. You should consider single stream content until you have the hardware and internet service that can support multistreaming to your satisfaction.

civic quarry
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And I put max b frames of two

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And it disappeared

prisma dove
civic quarry
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It doesn't do it after I set that

prisma dove
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Still doesn't change the price of beer, eggs or any of the advice we keep giving you.

civic quarry
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I am also considering

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A better laptop

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Hp omen 17

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But I am currently waiting for the price to go down

opaque halo
prisma dove
opaque halo
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Took our aircraft carrier 4 days to cross from East Coast US to the Med

karmic tiger
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!factoids
@neon spoke I seen you been helping a bit so, incase you didn't know where to find them, here be the bot's commands

wise bayBOT
neon spoke
karmic tiger
full fern
scarlet kernel
opaque halo
# neon spoke Thank you! I'm trying. You all know a lot more than I do

You've been doing great. I can echo (and no.. not that Echo πŸ™‚ ) what others have said. We were all new once and it just takes take to learn things. Some of us old folks have even started "cheat sheets" for ourselves as reminders of fixes for common issues that might not be in the factoids. Don't ever feel bad about saying "I don't know, others may be able to help" πŸ™‚

livid plover
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I too was new once and learning by watching/etc too, you'll get on it soon enough πŸ™‚

brazen thunder
silver fable
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Better a smart one than a dumb one.

marsh helm
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blobsweats last time i opened OBS is crashed

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im scared of it

cosmic island
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yo how can i contact a mod?

karmic tiger
cosmic island
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yup

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you read me like a book

wise bayBOT
# cosmic island yup

If you were messaged by a user who you suspect may be malicious, scamming, a bot, etc, we recommend reporting these users to the Discord Trust and Safety team so that they can be addressed appropriately. We strongly encourage users to be mindful of DMs they receive from users who are in any public Discord server.

Please report any suspicious private messages to Discord, either by using the Report Spam button in a DM, or by reporting it directly to Discord Trust and Safety

karmic tiger
cosmic island
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its funny to mess with them tho >:3

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ill still report them

neon spoke
amber sparrow
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<@&715347355565817879> bot may have missed one

stable forge
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@karmic tiger The art of not checking your software code and deploying it straight to an environment could also apply to youtube content creation.

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You just yell 'yolo' and hope it works out

karmic tiger
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yeah, but that doesn't stop them from checking it right now

stable forge
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Some people just care too late πŸ˜„

smoky rapids
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My computer is gonna hate me for the next few hours >.<

livid plover
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it does it's job or it gets the hose SeanSpray

neon spoke
neon spoke
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These days when I plug in a new device (for instance, a PlayStation Controller, a new monitor, or if I upgrade Nvidia drivers) I instinctively open up Windows Sound Control Panel so I can right-click perma Disable the audio device that gets setup with it...because Windows will always make this the new Default device. In addition, I've made it a habit of setting OBS audio devices (input and output) as explicit devices rather than relying on Default. And I always recommend this to my friends who use OBS.

Is this not a frequent experience for other folks? Just for instance here's an excerpt from my Sound Control Panel showing two of my monitors as Disabled playback devices, as well as the Nvidia HD Audio stuff disabled. Granted, my setup is atypical but this experience seems to have bitten other folks I've helped in the past. (Pen was just explaining t things to me in #audio-support around Windows Device IDs changing under everything and OBS being unable to find devices as a result.)

(This isn't a support question, I swear πŸ˜… Mostly a sanity check to see if this is in fact something specific to my hardware / something I did at some point that set me up for this Default Device Cannot Be Trusted situation I'm in.)

opaque halo
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I've seen this happen and not happen. Not sure what the root cause is. Even at work where we have about 200 workstations - with many from the same lot - some do it and some don't.

open rune
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Generally Windows only does this for devices it hasn't seen before, once you've plugged it in once it should remember whether it's supposed to be the default

neon spoke
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Really boils down to a pet peeve of mine. Audio routing is complex enough without Windows trying to help.

open rune
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I load a preset from sound volume view on boot and anytime some audio device is not configured correctly, it sets the correct default and volume levels and all that

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But I also don't have a lot of variance in audio devices on my system, things are pretty static

opaque halo
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I've found using ear trumpet has helped πŸ™‚

open rune
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I don't like manually configuring things more than once

neon spoke
open rune
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Once you have a preset saved you can make a shortcut to SoundVolumeView.exe /LoadProfile whatever.spr to load it, and then have a quick "unfuck my audio" button

neon spoke
quaint egret
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anyone on?

amber sparrow
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Nope

neon spoke
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Never am

still mica
neon spoke
still mica
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It's maddening.

I asctually wanted to write something that would look to see where audio devices were on the USB bus and look up their GUID and set OBS appropriately, to fix that problem on my music streamer's setup (which is really complex, with lots of audio devices), and ... best I can tell, there's no actual way to map where something is on the USB bus to the audio device's GUID. Arrgghh.

neon spoke
still mica
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Yuuuup. And it'd be ok if the GUID would just stay the same after it was set, but when it periodically changes because of windows being windows... yeah, bigger problem. Fire up the stream and a bunch of audio devices just don't work. (and for us it's even worse, because we've got multiples of the same type of device, so we can't just say "set the monitor device to the UR44" because we have several)

neon spoke
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They all have precisely the same identifier string, only the bus ID differs

left mulch
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I think the real solution is for OBS to use hardware ID instead of GUID but this is without really thinking about what issues that might cause itself

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but if hw ID was used it could just be mapped to the GUID anytime the device is loaded

still mica
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Can it be, though? I've never found a way to do that mapping.

neon spoke
left mulch
still mica
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@neon spoke I think they're talking about the PCI\VEN_1234&DEV_5678 type of string that hardware devices have.

still mica
neon spoke
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I must misunderstand you both? Or maybe this is more specific to GPUs than I realized, but for instance:

% ./iommu_group.sh | grep -i nvidia
IOMMU Group 7 0000:3b:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation AD104GL [RTX 4000 SFF Ada Generation] [10de:27b0] (rev a1)
IOMMU Group 7 0000:3b:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:22bc] (rev a1)
IOMMU Group 9 0000:af:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation AD104GL [RTX 4000 SFF Ada Generation] [10de:27b0] (rev a1)
IOMMU Group 9 0000:af:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:22bc] (rev a1)

The HD IDs for both of those cards are "NVIDIA Corporation AD104GL [RTX 4000 SFF Ada Generation] [10de:27b0] (rev a1)" ... which are bitwise identical. They're different because being in different physical slots lands them into different IOMMU groups (which can be exploited to uniquenly id them) but the hw id string was of no use to me.

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(Each of them has an audio device of course, which is the paired device in its respective IOMMU group)

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(I ran into the same issue trying to differ them in Windows 11 on that same hardware.)

still mica
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Hmm. Yeah, you're right, I guess the actual device path isn't actually part of that id.

left mulch
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I had PKEY_Device_ContainerId in my notes that I found but don't remember what that meant πŸ˜„

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working right now but can look in more detail in a few

still mica
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I've been chasing this for years, a few more minutes/hours/days I can handle. πŸ˜‰

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^^ Speaking of HDMI audio, am I the only one that finds it really, really strange that in the nvidia control panel, you can turn off the HDMI audio for some devices, but never all of them?

neon spoke
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I'll never forgive Nvidia for wading into audio <_< stay in your lane, geez

terse helm
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I think you can just only do it for the HDMI output

still mica
terse helm
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that other HDMI you have is a DP->HDMI conversion

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and that is probably because of DVI devices

still mica
neon spoke
terse helm
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because it numbers from DP 1 to DP 3

still mica
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Ooh, lol

terse helm
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and because nvidia 4090s have 3 DP ports and 1 HDMI port

still mica
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Though I don't really see why that should matter in this case, it's still weird!

terse helm
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agreed

left mulch
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so in a perfect world, OBS would store the containerID and then grab the endpoint that WASAPI uses every time the device is loaded

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I am sure there is some complication to this I am not seeing/understanding though, I am not an expert by any means just spent some time reading through docs

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but without OBS storing the containerID there wouldn't be any way for you to link an outdated device guid to the updated one after it has changed

still mica
neon spoke
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My understanding is that PKEY_Device_ContainerId can also change across major Windows Updates (or if you unplug and replug the device) but I have yet to find again the thing that led me to believe that πŸ€ͺ so I guess just rumor for now. It would be pretty great if this is the trick.

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Way to pass the buck, Microsoft

terse helm
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well, no

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if two copies of the device report identically to the system then the system can't make anything unique about them

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so the device has to report something like a serial number

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that note exists because many vendors of really cheap clone hardware (usually from China) don't go through the trouble of doing that

still mica
terse helm
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(arguably this can also be useful in terms of having a plug-and-play backup that doesn't require any reconfiguration)

terse helm
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no one expects their computer to lose track of their webcam because they plugged it into a different port

left mulch
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IDK if we are talking about the same thing still but containerID should persist between swapping USB ports from what I understand

neon spoke
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My gut tells me / wants it to be deterministic: like, okay, I have two devices that are identical plugged into different slots. Those slots are not identical. So like...okay, if I have two houses that are perfect duplicates of one another on different street names but both in the same town, there's still a part of that address specification that helps to tell them apart. And it is not remotely that simple due to how USB and PCI each surface device information. (This is more about my lack of know-how around the stuff, not so much a criticism of how it works.)

terse helm
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the fact that those slots(/ports) are not identical is useful to the computer so that the computer can tell which otherwise-identical device to talk to, but the user does not generally expect what port she plugged the device into to matter

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or at least, that would be a very niche use-case

amber sparrow
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What about the he's and theys plugging in

neon spoke
terse helm
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(it does happen in some cases btw, like hard drive cages)

still mica
terse helm
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arguably this is behaviour to fix a broken device

neon spoke
neon spoke
amber sparrow
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goxlr did indeed do that(and still does) adds a number to the name, right?

neon spoke
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Last I knew, yes

amber sparrow
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so broadcast mix becomes broadcast mix - 2

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or something silly

still mica
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Are there any audio devices that actually have a unique serial? I just look through all of mine and don't see anything like that (...though I might be looking in the wrong place)

amber sparrow
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I "think" my beacn stuff does but not 100%

terse helm
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mine does afaik

neon spoke
terse helm
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or at least I've never noticed anything to the contrary

neon spoke
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and I don't have more than one of those in WIndows πŸ˜… yet

still mica
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Admittedly, on my system here I only have cheap audio devices (but it's also not the system I actually care about).

Still, though, windows has gotta be tracking bus location for some part of some id, as evidenced by the fact that audio devices don't shuffle around literally every time a computer is turned on.

amber sparrow
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One would ASSume

neon spoke
compact lark
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pnputil /enum-devices /class MEDIA > media.txt
snip of my controllers

Device Description:         DualSense Wireless Controller
Class Name:                 MEDIA
Class GUID:                 {4d36e96c-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Manufacturer Name:          (Generic USB Audio)

Instance ID:                USB\VID_054C&PID_0CE6&MI_00\6&1132ed86&0&0000
Device Description:         DualSense Wireless Controller
Class Name:                 MEDIA
Class GUID:                 {4d36e96c-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Manufacturer Name:          (Generic USB Audio)

Instance ID:                USB\VID_054C&PID_0CE6&MI_00\6&36a64ed0&0&0000
Device Description:         DualSense Wireless Controller
Class Name:                 MEDIA
Class GUID:                 {4d36e96c-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Manufacturer Name:          (Generic USB Audio)

Instance ID:                USB\VID_054C&PID_0CE6&MI_00\6&1e6f4f9&0&0000
Device Description:         DualSense Wireless Controller
Class Name:                 MEDIA
Class GUID:                 {4d36e96c-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Manufacturer Name:          (Generic USB Audio)

I've got two dual sense controllers
swapping them on the same port, each shows up as audio device4
I moved ports, still showed up as device4
uninstalled device then replugged it in, still device4 (it's in the events log tab)
plug in the second controller on another port... hey that's a 'wireless controller' not a 'dualsense wireless controller' but it's the same GUID?

Device Description:         Wireless Controller
Class Name:                 MEDIA
Class GUID:                 {4d36e96c-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Manufacturer Name:          (Generic USB Audio)
terse helm
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class guid is not a device guid

opaque halo
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@neon spoke May I send you a DM?

compact lark
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I only see hardware IDs from pnputil /enum-devices /class MEDIA /ids 😦

neon spoke
opaque halo
terse helm
#

did the white lotus always release week by week or is that new and something I should be complaining about

amber sparrow
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Always been planned on weekly

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Just like the pitt

terse helm
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ugh

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guess I'll watch in like a month or so

left mulch
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is it really so bad waiting a week between episodes vs. waiting months to watch at once?

terse helm
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yeah I hate it

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it's so easy to forget shit

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I haven't started Severance S2 for this reason either

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I don't generally watch a whole show in one go though so I can start somewhere mid-way through a season

sharp frost
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Is it not possible in OBS studio to resize a video without the black background that is upright?

wise bayBOT
amber sparrow
copper notch
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I prefer to wait years until an entire show gets completed or cancelled, then binge watch the whole thing. I hate waiting week by week, or many months for the next season and forgetting half the character's names, who did what, etc. and having to rewatch the previous seasons all over again to frame where things are at.

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Unless it is something where the episodes are not linked to each other as an ongoing story.

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"Here's a cliffhanger, wait 9 months until next season to find out what happens next!" no thanks!

full fern
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I'm waiting to watch Severance all at once too. I find I can forget little details that connect the story together when it's weekly. Binging gives me the full picture. That's probably just my brain, though LOL

terse helm
copper notch
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Well, for me... I have like 200,000 TV series already to watch, and 500,000 movies, so lots to bide my time waiting for a series to end. πŸ™‚

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If I run out, I have ~= 4600 video games. And I can fill in more time converting Shadertoy shaders to OBS. πŸ™‚

karmic tiger
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@left mulch guessing you're looking into the "can't access streamkey" errors, any specific things you want us to gather info on for this one?

left mulch
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step 1: see if it happens on 30.2.3

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so far no one has answered that for me

karmic tiger
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πŸ‘

neon spoke
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Not sure if that's helpful, but it does mean I've failed to reproduce upside_down

left mulch
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oh you were having this issue and no longer are on 30.2.3? yes that is helpful.

neon spoke
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Not sure if still helpful? Let me know if I can offer any futher info

left mulch
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well what I am looking at is a specific issue where you are streaming to Twitch, you get a message that the stream cannot be found when it tries to reconnect, and then you can't start a stream again until you restart OBS.

copper pasture
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I've been programming for a long time but shader stuff is a mindfuck to me

neon spoke
copper pasture
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oh yeah I'd love to give that a read sometime

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that sounds very useful

neon spoke
copper pasture
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neat, thanks

neon spoke
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It's mostly generators (Exeldro has already converted a LOT of solid filters) but they're fun

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I also fixed a really niche bug in the glitch.shader which only happened if you left OBS running for 48 hours plus.... I dunno what kind of criminal would dare do that BUT he did figure out how to change that shader to account for it.

copper pasture
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gonna give this a read tomorrow. kinda late here now, so gonna snooze for now 🫑

karmic tiger
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november 23 so before 31.0.0

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granted, with a grain of salt, but

copper notch
still mica
neon spoke
molten prairie
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will obs come to chombook @everyone

karmic tiger
neon spoke
molten prairie
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any good one for chombook

prisma dove
left mulch
karmic tiger
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hmmm yee fair my bad, hadn't seen that was on a first connect

compact lark
smoky rapids
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The joy of 1440p videos 😐

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Though it "looks" like it finished processing which has me confused thonk

compact lark
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ponders if old windows source code is out there, and the sound control panel is legacy af... couldn't we just swap in something that doesn't suck by default?

livid plover
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Nirsoft has some tool related to that

compact lark
vernal current
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My Android phone keeps shuffling my apps around constantly and last week there is an app that got removed and I have no idea why this is happening

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For example the YouTube app will be on the right side of the app drawer and then after a week it's location will be moved to the bottom and the right

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The only time the apps should move is if you install a new app

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But I'm not installing anything new

tall vapor
vernal current
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Yea I think it happens when an update occurs I think

tall vapor
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yeah that'd make some sense at least, still ridiculous that ye launcher shuffles the icon around when that happens tho

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it's an update, not an uninstall&reinstall but newer version this time around

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πŸ˜…

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Point is to say: Never seen that before on neither me lineage devices (running the stock lineage launcher) nor me current p7a which is currently running a16 beta 2 /w lawnchair

vernal current
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The thing is, if if it was uninstall and install, the app would be at the bottom

In my case it just moves to the left or right 1-2 spaces

tall vapor
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O.o

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yup def wonky launcher business

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android itself doesn't decide where app icons go after all, that's the job of ye launcher

stable forge
#

It's actually nuts how many people try to phish you on discord with a fake account. Only mutual server is here.

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Yesterday someone tried to DM me, his username showed up as 4 separate accounts on here KEKW

opaque halo
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M.O. seems to be "find a big public / open discord and spamming as many as possible". Fishing in a pond where there's lots of people and you're more apt to get a few bites.

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Playing the percentages πŸ™‚

stable forge
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True, I'm on a couple of servers active. I wonder if they're automated or actively controlled

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That makes me wonder if there's no anti-impersonation bot that could counter them Hmm

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If pfp, username and accountname is similar to famous streamer = kick

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Someone call a dev, I have a million dollar idea

dapper obsidian
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Who can I chat with to report someone? It’s a scammer on this server

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@still turret only pinging you as it’s important in the sense of community

wise bayBOT
# dapper obsidian Who can I chat with to report someone? It’s a scammer on this server

If you were messaged by a user who you suspect may be malicious, scamming, a bot, etc, we recommend reporting these users to the Discord Trust and Safety team so that they can be addressed appropriately. We strongly encourage users to be mindful of DMs they receive from users who are in any public Discord server.

Please report any suspicious private messages to Discord, either by using the Report Spam button in a DM, or by reporting it directly to Discord Trust and Safety

dapper obsidian
# wise bay

I’d still like for the person to be banned or kicked incase of future encounters

dapper obsidian
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Thankfully I noticed the red flags

void gale
#

all pixelated 2d games are 60fps locked?

tall vapor
civic quarry
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hello guys

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it is snowing outside in istanbul

void gale
livid plover
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Try google the specific games you find to see which support it/aren't 30/60fps locked

amber sparrow
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Pc gaming wiki will show if a game supports 60 or 120+

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Probably doesn't have EVERY game but I haven't gone very deep

karmic tiger
silver fable
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Most pixelated 2D games won't, though, since those usually have animations locked in for a certain time frame, with 30 or 60 frames. Ain't nobody got time to do 165 unique frames for one character.

livid plover
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I mean, you might be able to unlock it, but it'll just be more duped frames often times

terse helm
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After the shutdown, offline features like β€œbattery level” will still work, Humane says, but β€œany function that requires cloud connectivity like voice interactions, AI responses, and .Center access” will not.

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whoever wrote that is actually insane

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what the fuck use is the battery level for a device that can't do anything else because all it did was talk to a server!?

stable forge
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Ohhh lol that's already shutting down? Lmao

modern yoke
#

what is your favorite note-taking apps for windows? I'm not very happy with microsoft onenote as the writing code is laggy and not well implemented, and the note-taking space seems too "open" in a way. If you have suggestions I'd love to try them

prisma dove
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Text files, my Windows note taking app

opaque halo
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Notepad ++

still mica
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VSCode + the VSNotes extension

stable forge
modern yoke
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I came across that when searching the web! It seems promising!

stable forge
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It also has a lot of plugins so you can get it exactly as to how you want it

left mulch
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I have to 2nd notepad++, also an unlimited amount of plugins for it

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I switch between that and vscode

still mica
#

tbh a lot of my stuff goes into evernote, but I really want to get away from it. Still kinda looking for a good replacement. About half the potential options I have to throw out right out of the gate because one of the big things I use that kind of app for is snipping full web pages to be able to reference later, and a lot of things just... don't do that. (not that evernote is particularly good at it, mind you)

modern yoke
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I don't think notepad++ fits my needs. I need to be able to put things into tables, place pictures and sometimes draw a line or cirlce on them, put down blocks of code and write mathematical equations. while also having a little control over styling, like writing headers, main text, small text etc. (without too much customization like Word or Docs)

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so far my impression of obsidian is good. I'll give it a try for a week or two! Seems promising

obtuse basin
#

Hey, does anyone know a good ai model for translation that I can download and run locally? need to translate from English to Polish

terse helm
#

they're finally closing the infinite-vod-storage-through-highlights loophole

amber sparrow
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Those .5% must REALLLLY be abusing it

terse helm
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I guess so yeah

shrewd spire
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will just be the next wave of archived speedruns that get killed like when they made highlights mandatory for permanent storage

stuck folio
#

is there any good settings to use on radeon 680m igpu with AMD h.264 HW encoder?
i'm trying to record at 1080p and the footage just comes out so laggy and bad

#

the quality of the video is somewhat good but it's so laggy

wise bayBOT
stuck folio
# wise bay

i have tried the guide but it's still laggy..

prisma dove
stuck folio
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aight thanks

carmine ibex
brazen thunder
amber sparrow
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Well they ain't gonna be too happy today doggolul

carmine ibex
#

yeah, there's someone that I might download some stuff.. there's like 80 hours of skyblock I wanna download
there's like 200+ hours total, but I don't wanna download the whole thing.. just what I haven't seen yet
I could just look up on YT, but Twitch would definitely be higher quality... and why not

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well, people could just.. you know.. download everything on their own drives, pfft

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I realize it's about 10GB for 7 and a half hours of video (assuming 6mbps)

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wait

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no.. 20?

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yeah, 20gb

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I find the static bitrates a little silly, sometimes 2 to 3mbps at 1080p60 looks extremely high quality.. you don't need 6mbps all the time

jaunty fulcrum
opaque halo
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This is a streamer I follow. Streams about 9 hours a day.

carmine ibex
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3400 hours would probably cost them 30+tb of storage
eh... I mean... hmm...

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like $300 of storage?

jaunty fulcrum
carmine ibex
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I'm assuming it's on 3 to 4 drives.. but I guess then you need a system in place that costs more money than just the drives

jaunty fulcrum
carmine ibex
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yeah, you're probably looking AT LEAST double that
and then you factor in that no one thinks to look up past VODs on Twitch

opaque halo
jaunty fulcrum
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exactly πŸ˜‰

carmine ibex
#

and, again, there's no search function or anything... they really didn't want it used as this
so it's just.. horrible to look up anything
looking for a specific game? nope, ctrl+f doesn't work, either... it just shows the image of the game, not the name....
so unless it's in the title...

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that 7 day limit for non prime/turbo/affiliate people is kind of gross
idk why I thought it was 14 days for everyone
I had prime, so it was 60 days for me
crazy how just linking a prime account to your Twitch will give you 60 days of VODs...

amber sparrow
#

Well data storage is expensive(especially for something that probably only gets a super slight fraction of watch hours vs live)

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Twitch isn't built for that. YT is

carmine ibex
#

and I guess if you are not affiliate, you probably don't have many viewers to begin with

sudden adder
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And lets not forget there have been a couple of VOD purges over the years at this point, one right when Amazon bought Twitch due to how different the switch over to the new system (at the time) was

wheat karma
#

These few users who are highlighting thousands of hours...why

jaunty fulcrum
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instead of reuploading/transferring to youtube, which takes time & lowers bitrate

wheat karma
#

Tbh anyone even streaming that much and having thousands of hours highlighted, I imagine they must be pretty big streamers with some $$$? In that case maybe there's a business opportunity there if they really don't want to put those vods on YouTube due to reduced quality and time, time is money so maybe twitch can offer increased limits for some $$$?

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But I think the reality is nobody would cough up the money cos nobody watches those highlights really lol, so yeah

jaunty fulcrum
wheat karma
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True

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Just a random idea but just highlights how useless the highlights are

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100 hours is pretty decent tho

jaunty fulcrum
#

yeah 100 hours is a sane limit

wheat karma
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Reminds me of the Google photos unlimited storage, a few people exploited the hell out of it

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I think google deletes accounts now after 2 years of inactivity?

carmine ibex
# wheat karma Tbh anyone even streaming that much and having thousands of hours highlighted, I...

I mean, that's what I was thinking
but they would need to improve the system, first... BE ABLE TO SEARCH FOR A GAME.. you can't even do that
have to scroll down for... minutes, because it lags and takes ages to get to what you want... and then have to remember the title and ctrl+f! can't ctrl+f game, because it doesn't have it in text, only an image!
it's... horrible.. there needs to be a search function

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it's definitely doable to come up with a system like this, but idk if the logistics are worth dealing with

wheat karma
#

Yeah, honestly always felt the twitch UI really could do with some work

carmine ibex
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like, you could say $250 a year for this... but if someone is uploading like 8 hours of content a day, maybe it'd cost them more? but they could say you are giving us a lot of money in subs, so

wheat karma
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They probably calculated it's not worth it also because it's just a few accounts really hoarding data

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But people moving vods to utube is benefitting the competition

carmine ibex
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yeah

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people just don't think to look up past content on Twitch.. they think YT

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honestly, a 1080p stream uploaded to YT looks... good enough? I'm not super picky

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even 720p looks... okay? as long as the video isn't heavily compressed to begin with

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main issue are dark areas, YT just absolutely butchers those

jaunty fulcrum
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Used to butcher the colour red, too

carmine ibex
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that's chroma subsampling classic

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maybe compression was combining with chroma subsampling and making the issue far worse

void gale
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In nvidia app i dont even see gpu vram option :/
hope nvidia add it soon.

brazen thunder
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it won't. It's like the way recycling is messaged. Blame the consumer for the company's choices

terse helm
#

that doesn't seem particularly useful but I guess better than nothing?

carmine ibex
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pfft, only like 65TB to download it all, no biggie

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(I'm assuming 6mbps)

terse helm
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sheesh

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assuming 65TiB, that's $1500+ a month to store

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or half that if they use S3-IA

carmine ibex
#

you could argue that's likely only a few percent of cost that Twitch made
but you also factor in that

  1. this is not designed as a backup service and
  2. views basically turn to zero pretty quickly.... and I can see why this change is being made
    I guess if someone wants their VODs in full viewing quality of what they were streamed, they are better off uploading to like Google Drive or something (not sure I'd trust Google Drive, actually)
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I also don't think it's great because it's 30 fps limit and recompressed until you download... but, yeah, something like it

terse helm
#

well if only one streamer had that kind of archive I'm sure they wouldn't care

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even if that one streamer was deeply unprofitable

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they said "less than 0.5% of active streamers" but twitch has a fuckton of active streamers, so that number is still large

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a quick google says twitch has 6.9 million streamers, taking that generously and rounding down to 6 million that's still 30.000 people with over 100 hours of video stored

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if even a fraction of that (say 100-ish) has that level of archive, it's over a $100.000 every month

vernal current
#

today πŸ₯°

terse helm
#

so it seems to me like twitch has found an easy way to save probably several million usd a year, while affecting only a very small percentage of users

carmine ibex
#

wait, Google Drive highest tier is 2TB anyway
lol

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but, again, I wasn't suggesting it..

copper notch
#

I did some napkin math based on what a few people posted they're using on Twitter of # of hours of video, and it seems that Twitch is likely to save a half a billion to 1+ billion dollars from this move easily.

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One person appears to be using around 67 petabytes of storage there, which is about 2 million dollars of storage.

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Gotta be others like them, and with millions of streamers on the platform, some percentage are using this loophole. Hard to predict how many, but even conservative numbers add up to hundreds of millions of dollars in storage.

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That one person using 60+ petabytes... would have to download a petabyte of video per day, and then also upload them to YouTube simultaneously or buy 1+ petabytes of local storage in order to preserve their video in the next 60 days. Plus it would take time to find that storage, buy it, receive it and set it all up, upping the daily download/upload requirements in the process. If they didn't transcode most of it upscaled to 1440p or higher, YouTube will mangle the quality of 1080p uploads making it look like crap too, so they'd need to process 62+ petabytes of video in realtime. Good luck. LOL That doesn't take into account any file size, total disk space usage, or per-day total size or number of files that YouTube would rate limit someone to either.

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Some people gonna lose a lot of their videos.

terse helm
#

who has 60PB?

stable forge
#

Yeah, what

terse helm
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60PiB at 8Mbps (being generous here) is 2100 years of video

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I don't think anyone has streamed that much

#

the only way around that would be the trick where (afaik) videos uploaded (as opposed to streamed) to twitch aren't subject to bitrate limits, but even then it'd be pretty ridiculous

wanton coral
#

Sixty Petabytes of streaming for one person is unfathomable that sounds flat out wrong

terse helm
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yeah someone either mathed that wrong or has been keeping an uploaded archive of multiple streamers

stable forge
#

The math was calculated but boy was it wrong

wanton coral
carmine ibex
#

If it was 67PB, it would be easily 2 million, if not more
But 67PB is insane

terse helm
#

60PiB a month costs 120k usd a month to store

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so times 12 for a year -> over a million usd

carmine ibex
terse helm
#

though again it's likely to be 60TiB rather than PiB, which would cost a lot less but still a lot

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also, those numbers are from Amazon S3 which is what twitch uses to store this data

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even if Twitch gets a deal from Amazon (which people say they don't, but I think is likely), there's still the opportunity cost for Amazon

wanton coral
#

Is that the retail cost though? or the actual cost

terse helm
#

storing 60TB of twitch vods is 60TB of storage they can't sell to someone else

wanton coral
#

Amazon still passes the margin onto their subsidiaries?

terse helm
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so for all intents and purposes it costs what they say it does

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tbh amazon's S3 storage is so cheap I doubt they're making bank on it; I think they primarily use it as an enabler for other services

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(I'm not suggesting they operate it at a loss, but that the margins on it are slimmer than other services they offer, given especially there's more competition in that space)

wanton coral
#

I wouldn't be surprised if they're operating it at a loss. It makes sense to get as many people on there as possible and then incrementally raise the prices over time as the vendor lock in hits.

terse helm
#

there's no vendor lock-in for object storage however

copper notch
#

So this streamer has reported that they have 22,699hrs 36m of video data on Twitch. To estimate the numerics on this, I will make the assumption that all of this video content was live streamed at 6,000kbps which is arguably the standard bitrate that most streamers use for their live streams. All of the math can be scaled up or down from this to any other average bitrate to produce a range of possible disk usage scenarios at other bitrates if one desired. I'll simplify it to 6Mbps to make the numbers more palatable.

So, at 6Mbps, one hour of video would be 6 * 60 * 60 megabits per hour = 21,600 Mbph. Dividing that by 8 to convert from megabits per hour to megabytes per hour we get: 21600/8 = 2,700 megabytes per hour.

I will round off the number of hours they stated to the nearest hour for simplicity giving 22700hours of video. Multiply that by 2,700MB/h and you get: 22700 * 2700 = 61,290,000 MB of total data. Divide this by 1024 gives 59,853.515625 terabytes of data, and divide that by 1024 gives 58.4506988525390625 petabytes of data total.

If you then divide the total amount of data by the approximately 58 days that they have remaining until Twitch deletes the data it works out to 1.007770669871363146551724137931 petabytes of data per day that they would have to download locally and store, requiring over 60PB of storage (remembering that not all space on a hard disk is usable due to filesystem overhead). They would also need a massive server to hold all the data. It would take time to requisition the hardware and build such a storage array, which would delay being able to initiate the preservation, and increase the daily downloading and processing requirements accordingly.

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There's my "bad napkin math", feel free to improve it.. πŸ™‚

terse helm
#

there are hundreds of object storage providers, most of which S3-compatible meaning they're drop-in services

terse helm
copper notch
#

I didn't calculate what the network bandwidth requirements would be for downloading yet, nor how an ISP would respond to having that much data pass through their network on an "unlimited" plan. πŸ™‚

wanton coral
terse helm
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yeah the vendor lock-in comes from the other stuff, not the object storage

copper notch
wanton coral
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Yeah but that's what I'm talking about it being used as a loss leader to get people on there and locked in

terse helm
wanton coral
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Once you're already using a platform for one thing it makes sense to start using it for other stuff too

terse helm
#

I will round off the number of hours they stated to the nearest hour for simplicity giving 22700hours of video. Multiply that by 2,700MB/h and you get: 22700 * 2700 = 61,290,000 MB of total data. Divide this by 1024 gives 59,853.515625 terabytes of data, and divide that by 1024 gives 58.4506988525390625 petabytes of data total.

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you forgot a step

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namely, gigabytes

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61,290,000 MB / 1024 = 59853.515 GiB / 1024 = 58.450 TiB

wanton coral
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Is there any additional lossless compression you can do on video data encoded in formats like H.264 and H.265 if you have a huge data set of similar content? Because I know small scale there's really nothing to gain but over hundreds of gigabytes of content there has to be more similarities? Unless there's just too much randomness/noise introduced.

copper notch
terse helm
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the quote is the bit where you went wrong, the rest is fine

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you went MB -> TB -> PB, skipping GB

copper notch
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Oh crap, you're right, I just noticed. LOL

terse helm
#

btw there's also a significant digits problem, because your numbers are too precise :P

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58.4506988525390625 * 1000^5 58450698852539062.5000000000000000

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half bits

copper notch
#

Ok, I get 58.4506988525390625 terabytes now, which is a lot but is feasible at least. I downloaded around 6TB of data in a week about a year and a half ago and that wasn't full bore, spread throughout the week. So it could be possible to download that much data on high speed Internet throughout 2 months and convert it afterall.

copper notch
terse helm
#

it's feasible to do yeah, though for this size of archive 2 months is admittedly a bit tight

copper notch
#

It would still be a tremendous amount of work, but it is not difficult to download 1+TB of data per day on a good modern Internet connection. An ISP may not be fond of it though depending on the provider and plan.

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But then they'd have to either straight upload, or convert and upload it on the fly too, or buy probably around 70-80TB of storage to hold it.

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(due to power of 10 versus power of 1024 math, and OS filesystem overhead)

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HDDs are sold with power of 10, while traditional computing numbers are power of 1024

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The whole MB vs MiB nonsense πŸ™‚

terse helm
#

the number in my wolfram alpha screenshot is in base-10

copper notch
#

One could custom format the drives with HUGE block sizes though to recover a lot of the usual overhead to make more efficient use of the disk space though.

terse helm
#

of course that's assuming this streamer was a twitch guidelines streamer, at 6Mbps

copper notch
#

For massive files it makes sense to use the largest possible blocksize.

terse helm
#

which given they were doing the "highlight all the vods" trick I doubt they were

copper notch
#

Also if it was Linux, you could compute the number of files and specify the max number of inodes to further reduce overhead.

terse helm
#

so more realistically I think they're dealing with this

copper notch
#

I got 77.739429473876953125 from that

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Not sure what the disk overhead is on NTFS default format, but for data like this I would totally custom format it.

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But I'd actually do it in Linux to control it further. πŸ™‚

#

Another factor is with that many disks, the chances of a bad disk get higher, so one would probably want to use RAID 5 or 6 with 6-8 drives in each array to avoid data loss.

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So additional storage would need to make up for the redundancies.

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Can you imagine being tasked to pull off a preservation like this within the time constraints? πŸ™‚

terse helm
#

given enough budget I could do it

copper notch
#

$3000CAD for the storage should more than cover it I think, but still a lot of unexpected expenditure if one was in that situation.

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Not counting storage space for file conversion to retain max quality on YouTube (preserving the originals)

copper tinsel
#

dead server...

amber sparrow
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So sleepy

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Don't mind the 800 or so posts yesterday

silver fable
jaunty fulcrum
#

I.. how do you classify a dead server?

opaque halo
#

πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

terse helm
#

well it's easy

#

you just say "dead chat" and then a bunch of people come to say that you're talking shit

amber sparrow
#

Ded server

terse helm
#

so then you've achieved your goal of making people talk

amber sparrow
#

Which I am still in and don't really know why

jaunty fulcrum
copper tinsel
#

yall does changing the fractional fps actually work and make ur fps 240 if i wanted it to be?

jaunty fulcrum
#

What a boring way to start a boring conversation

copper tinsel
#

oh cool

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thanks

amber sparrow
jaunty fulcrum
amber sparrow
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πŸ‘€

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Dang. It's nearly 9am here. Cracked my redbull at 515. Feel like I need a coffee

white aspen
#

Good Morning Everyone

sudden adder
terse helm
#

man skipped gigaflu and went straight to tera

neon spoke
#

I've just brewed my coffee. Looks like another day of beefing up a bash script so much it really ought to be a service.

spare atlas
#

Guys question if you had to choose a world to be a part off would it be the infinite warfare world or Walking dead world

stable forge
#

Why would I ever not choose infinite warfare

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I think the stench alone could kill people in the walking dead

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Hot corpses walking around in the summer? Holy fuck

full fern
#

ROFL, agreed. Maybe if I lived in a perpetually frozen area, but that presents its own extreme survival challenges

stable forge
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Accidently step on a rusty nail

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Congratulations, you have achieved death

amber sparrow
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Yea. This seems like it would be better as a zombie esqu world a vs zombie esqu world b

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Otherwise it is indeed a no brainer

stable forge
#

Hmmm

spare atlas
amber sparrow
#

Like walking dead world vs world War z world

spare atlas
amber sparrow
#

Those zombies in world War z are.dicks

spare atlas
stable forge
#

True, but there's an actual government that can still protect, no?

#

I'm only going off the movies

spare atlas
stable forge
#

28 days/weeks later vs world war z

spare atlas
stable forge
#

Pick your poison

amber sparrow
#

The book goes harder

spare atlas
#

Wait I mean Cod Infinite warfare

stable forge
#

I should really get to reading that

spare atlas
wary holly
neon spoke
still mica
#

Randomly, it's pretty funny that Best Buy has a "free item with purchase" link on their 5090 pages (at least for the 5090 FE), and that free item is ... a single month of discord nitro.

karmic tiger
still mica
#

I'll bite their face off.

#

Related, I really hope the 5090 launches soon.

carmine ibex
#

ONE MONTH?
Twitch was giving three months, that I could have gotten if they didn't fuck up the details...

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one.. month... doggolul

#

it's a scamℒ️

terse helm
#

two months

copper notch
#

`There are much cheaper ways to start a fire in your house than buying a 5090. πŸ™‚

edgy yarrow
#

can anyone recommend a place to find some desktop wallpapers?

prisma dove
#

If you want to use photos for wallpapers, browse Flickr.

still mica
#

Wallpaper Engine, if you want really fancy wallpapers.

full fern
#

I steal all of @prisma dove s photos LOL

prisma dove
#

The dogs, seeing the price on the gas pump...
"well shit, no treats for us"

full fern
#

tosses them some pumpkin

open rune
rough kayak
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i know Twitch says in its rules to not display other websites chats on screen...

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...but has anyone actually ever gotten in trouble for it yet?

amber sparrow
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Prolly no normies

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Imagine them actually monitoring that shit

rough kayak
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because i honestly think even they dont care.

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YEAH.

amber sparrow
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Only ones they'd look at are the top .01%

rough kayak
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like, thats such a bitchy little thing to care about

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unless yeah, youre on top

amber sparrow
#

Honestly they have to have a wide reaching ToS

#

So it does help with those actually making them money I suppose

open rune
#

Rule must have been born out of some kind of event or problem they were looking to fix though

amber sparrow
#

Ninja

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Tbh

prisma dove
#

"Warning: Contents of this cup may be HOT!"

rough kayak
#

after this 100hr crap im sayin fuck it

open rune
#

Are you part of the affected 0.5% of users or whatever

rough kayak
#

6600hrs+

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very affected

open rune
#

I quit using it for that when they stopped archiving VODs

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Sucks but they don't want to be YouTube

rough kayak
#

yeah the writing should have been on the wall

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but i myself included didnt see it

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the only thing Twitch offers superior are stuff like channel points and emotes anyway lmfao

open rune
#

I would say the main thing Twitch offers is an actual audience and some discoverability

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If you've already got an audience and you can bring them with you somewhere else then that works but otherwise, eh

full fern
#

I am excited for this. Three freaking years waiting since this content came out for new gen consoles almost.

copper notch
#

I 76%'d the game and got sidetracked. I need to get back in and finish it off.

livid plover
#

Oh boy, anticheat. Another game on the "needs more setup to capture" list

celest barn
#

Guy's this mate just make me bloody scared

#

It has the same message

wise bayBOT
# celest barn Guy's this mate just make me bloody scared

If you were messaged by a user who you suspect may be malicious, scamming, a bot, etc, we recommend reporting these users to the Discord Trust and Safety team so that they can be addressed appropriately. We strongly encourage users to be mindful of DMs they receive from users who are in any public Discord server.

Please report any suspicious private messages to Discord, either by using the Report Spam button in a DM, or by reporting it directly to Discord Trust and Safety

celest barn
#

Thank's mate

livid plover
#

it's a scam btw πŸ™‚

copper pasture
#

youtube gatekeeping me

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can't a guy upload 99.1gb of vods in peace

livid plover
#

yeah you can, just not in the same tab

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plop 15 in there, and 15 in another tab, it's just 15 in queue max

copper pasture
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ohhh, interesting

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thanks

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I never knew

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that's so funny that you can just open a new tab

amber sparrow
#

Echo with the life hacks FTW

livid plover
#

sadly it loses file ordering for sequentially named uploas, but youtube seems to fuck that up anyway at random so i dunno

copper pasture
#

yeah, trying it now and it seems to work fine. although all my files in the other tab are staying on 0%, I'm guessing until some more bandwidth frees up

#

and yeah Youtube Studio is an absolute disaster and things like ordering are a mystery to me anyway

#

like you'll add something to a playlist or change it from unlisted to published and suddenly Youtube Studio will be like "ok now it goes to the top of the list for no reason"

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but not always

livid plover
#

yeah playlists are a free for all of mess πŸ˜‚ it's insane when my stuff is uploaded in sequential order

scarlet kernel
#

does all this work for you

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(if it's still on twitch)

copper pasture
#

ah, this is different, I'm not directly moving stuff from Twitch to Youtube, I'm on a project for an esports tournament I help run to fill gaps in the youtube archive for vods we have locally

vernal current
#

im starting to come around on kingdom come 2, but man the UI really needs fixing on console

mint mortar
#

Can i have a moderator?

civic quarry
mint mortar
wise bayBOT
# mint mortar A random user friend requested from me on here.

If you were messaged by a user who you suspect may be malicious, scamming, a bot, etc, we recommend reporting these users to the Discord Trust and Safety team so that they can be addressed appropriately. We strongly encourage users to be mindful of DMs they receive from users who are in any public Discord server.

Please report any suspicious private messages to Discord, either by using the Report Spam button in a DM, or by reporting it directly to Discord Trust and Safety

terse helm
#

ez

amber sparrow
#

Wow

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<@&715347355565817879>

terse helm
#

whadidido

main tiger
# wise bay

i had a random user from this server who disguised themselves as a twitch streamer trying to sell a scam promotion service.

its kind of gross that theres no way to protect users of the community from this type of thing, leaving it up to discord who typically doesnt care enough to do anything about it ime

wise bayBOT
# main tiger i had a random user from this server who disguised themselves as a twitch stream...

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Please report any suspicious private messages to Discord, either by using the Report Spam button in a DM, or by reporting it directly to Discord Trust and Safety

terse helm
#

it's unfortunate but ultimately it is up to discord

#

in a public server this big it's impossible to deal with otherwise

main tiger
#

idk, ive been in servers this big and bigger with ticket tools and ways to actually report it and remove bad faith users.

terse helm
#

yeah but then you get people faking screenshots to get someone else banned

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since the only ones who can have any idea about dms is discord, that's who should deal with it

main tiger
#

and discord itself doesnt care enough.

and you have random users like boneshooter who make it more frustrating by just using !report

#

Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

prisma dove
# main tiger and discord itself doesnt care enough. and you have random users like boneshoot...

What rule of this community did the account violate? Most moderators don't want to do Discord's job of policing your DM's and friend requests. That's between you and the other user.
Besides, kicking them from the server does nothing to punish the account in question. Reporting it to Discord adds it to their list of data, including login/account information, public IP connections, and any other things they can use to see patterns.

left mulch
opaque halo
vernal current
#

how can someone know who typed a bot command?

terse helm
#

be fast

vernal current
#

oh from the "typing"? i see

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i thought so but wantedto be sure

terse helm
#

yeah, and from seeing it before the bot deletes it

prisma dove
#

!new @vernal current

wise bayBOT
#

@vernal current

✨ If you're new to OBS Studio:

🎞️ If you prefer to learn with videos, check out:

prisma dove
#

If someone is kind enough to mention you in the bot command post, you will see who triggered it.

livid plover
#

<@&715347355565817879>

neon spoke
#

Today I learned that awk can do floating point math. I had no idea it could do that. (Don't dwell on why I needed this. I'm trying not to.)

modern yoke
#

duuuude

#

I was searching for the name and release date of my laptop and came across an old review/test report from 2020. I knew the display in my laptop was bad, but I had no idea it was THIS bad!! Sad thing is, I'm quite happy with this laptop, except for the screen. It's awful

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In comparison, my cheap 2nd monitor from 2015 (as well as my main) reportedly scores 100% in third party tests

unique anvil
#

ok

silver fable
#

Is this overkill? I dunno...

terse helm
#

yes

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unless you are a dog

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in which case I'm extremely impressed at your language skills

wheat karma
#

overkill for a dog too

modern yoke
#

Reminds me when I saw an extreeemly expensive pair of headphones for sale on a website boasting a frequency response range of 5hz - 75,000hz

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doggo headphones

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People argue that anything higher res than 8k is useless because one can’t tell the difference. But at least every additional pixel still is technically able to be perceived and has an effect on the image. But no matter how life changing and cool a piece of music is, if it is in that extreme high frequency range it is literally impossible to perceive

#

And no they were not actually β€œdog headphones”

wheat karma
#

gotta love audiophile stuff, i just want a cheap pair of headphones that dont sound like ass , how hard can it be?

modern yoke
#

That’s like a TV that has such a wide gamut or color spectrum that it goes well into infared and ultraviolet. Wanna watch Oppenheimer with IR and UV colors? Oh cool it looks exactly the same.

wheat karma
#

costs like $2k

modern yoke
#

Wow that’s really cheap compared to the 75khz one I saw

wheat karma
#

i dont think i can hear past 15khz, so what would i do with the other 105khz

modern yoke
#

Produce music for the cave bats

#

Dj Batman

silver fable
#

Mine aren't anywhere near that.

carmine ibex
#

fairly certain a lot of headphones can do well past the rated frequency, just it may not be "as good"

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I know my headphones said 50khz as the top, but I recorded with my microphone, and it did pick up 96khz (very, very, VERY faintly)

#

so, who knows if like the Sony 120khz ones are actually better than a headphone that only rates for like 30khz...
Sony seems to like to boast ridiculously high frequencies, so they are gonna put it on the spec sheet.. the ~$400 ones are rated for.. is it 80khz?

#

and the 96khz being picked up very faintly was probably the microphone's fault more than the headphone's.. I would guess

#

interestingly, a higher quality microphone I have now really only picks up to like... 30khz? but that is... more than enough

wheat karma
#

I always wondered what my cat was hearing that I can't, guess I need a good mic

copper notch
#

You'd need to use a 192kHz+ sample rate to actually pick that up however, and a DAC that can convert it and speakers that can output it to actually emit the audio though.

carmine ibex
#

a lot of audio interfaces can do 192khz, yeah

wheat karma
#

Well I don't need to worry about emitting the audio as I can't hear it xd

#

But the sony headphones should do doggolul

carmine ibex
#

of course, there's the nyquist frequency.. but I think that just means there's less accuracy past a certain point
like only 0-20khz is accurate with a 44.1khz sample rate

#

but you do have 22050hz of frequencies

copper notch
#

Yes, with Nyquist Theorem you need 2x+ sample frequency

marsh helm
#

fancy sounding words

mighty turret
carmine ibex
#

then why did they do 44.1khz sample rate cerbyHuh

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I thought the goal was to just get 20khz of accurate frequencies

mighty turret
#

Because no band limiter is perfect and they all have some amount of rolloff

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The extra sample rate provides the headroom needed for that

tall vapor
#

Honestly that's one of those "okie so might not quite understand why but analog stuffs is messy so that's prolly why yes" things

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so ya do sample more often than what would be strictly necessary (as it would be if ya think of it in a digital way, at least) to account for analog mess

mighty turret
#

In an ideal world, you'd have a low pass filter that cuts off at exactly 20kHz, and then you would only need 40kHz to represent everything up to that perfectly. In practice, every filter has a transition band, so if you cut everything completely above 20kHz, you will also have some amount of frequencies below that being attenuated.

tall vapor
#

yup, in an ideal world, but nothing is ideal so it's much easier to go with "okie let's just store more data than would be strictly necessary if everything was perfect"

marsh helm
#

who ping

copper notch
#

I did, I accidentally pasted a YT video instead of that link so I corrected it.

marsh helm
#

sure i understand that yep

modern yoke
#

Interesting, I’m not sure I understand everything, but I always thought the reason 44khz and 48khz sample rates were the standard, was to support those with super-human hearing. In case your hearing went slightly beyond 20khz.

#

And in turn I wondered why the standards weren’t just designed to top out at like, 18khz or something to save on cost and bandwidth. Most people I know can’t hear beyond 18khz

wary holly
#

I can't hear beyond 12-14 ._.

sudden adder
wary holly
#

@sudden adder With this lighting, it looks like you were punched in the eye.

sudden adder
#

comes from this image. and yes, I am activly screaming into my hand to make all of my characters react via the Scale 2 Sound plugin

modern yoke
#

I have also heard that modern codecs/encoders like AAC and OPUS outright ignore anything above 14khz unless they are provided a significant amount of bandwidth or encounter significant amounts of noise in those ranges

#

I sometimes wonder what its like to be a dog or cat in a human world. Due to me needing to watch out for my hearing I downloaded a few apps, and in turn discovered that a lot of appliances produce constant noise around 20khz, give or take a few kHz.

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I imagine it’s like walking into a television store in the 90’s - 00’s, with a constant CRT whine from all the television sets. Although I’m too young to know what that’s like.

terse helm
#

I'm not

#

the high frequency noise that CRTs produced was audible (to younger people) but not really annoying or anything

modern yoke
#

Interesting. I always thought it was like hell for the young ones.

terse helm
#

nah, it's high-pitched but not very loud

sudden adder
#

in high school, i could easily tell when the home room TV would turn on without having to even see it. The buzz was so subtle, barely anyone else noticed it. It was more of a feeling than a sound almost

#

(the tvs auto-activated when Channel 1 programming started in the mornings)

wheat karma
sudden adder
#

yep, ultrasonic pest repellers

terse helm
#

I know those as ultrasonic youth repellers

still mica
compact lark
sudden adder
#

why Saturn but not N64?

Saturn pre-dates the N64 by about a year or two

#

i dont remember many plasma TVs around in 1994-1996 to be honest

amber sparrow
#

Plasma TVs in 2000 were like $10,000

#

So def no plasmas on major display mid 90s

#

I remember my roommate buying a 42" plasma in like 2006 for $2000

#

πŸ‘€

compact lark
#

perhaps I went to sears in 2002
... I'm not sure, swore I witnessed plasma tvs in stores before 9/11
my elders probably have a better grasp on the concept of money at that time and paid attention

compact lark
# sudden adder why Saturn but not N64? Saturn pre-dates the N64 by about a year or two

to help ground myself in the time period I look back at my hobbies

95/96 I was introduced to magic the gathering, ice age booster boxes were still in the card shop.
walmart didn't open up near us until unglued was out (98).. at my location target, bestbuy, circuit city didn't exist so that just leaves kmart, sears, I did play a wario game in a Toys R Us on the virtual boy which is around that time period too

but walking into a dark section of a department store and looking at this huge flat panel.. had to be plasma but since nothing else of note happened I can't put a date on it
looking at a sega console in a glass case none of my friends in town had was a mystery, I believe to be the saturn and not the segacd

neon spoke
#

Now I'm remembering Ice Age. Not the best set but I liked it. Fun art.

marsh helm
#

ASUS ROG Astral RTX 5090 catches fire after power stage failure

still mica
#

warms her hands

marsh helm
#

700 watt heater that a $20 one from walmart is built better

neon spoke
#

I mean, I enjoy a tiny little space heater.

#

Usually my space heaters aren't very good at rapidly jamming out polygons anyway

marsh helm
#

does your heater catch fire tho?

#

This well known smart person says its a vrm failure

neon spoke
# marsh helm does your heater catch fire tho?

So, ONCE, the very first PC I ever built for myself as a kid (I was 17?) it was like 1997...it did NOT have sufficient fans in it and the fans were cheap and basically all died. The PC naturally started overheating then power-cycling to recover from it. I pulled the case off of it and the frame had begun to bend and warp from heat damage

I couldn't get the case back on (this was still the days of those gross off-white cases, solid metal covers that fit like a partial shoebox cover) so I set my box fan next to it and the thing had never run faster.

Lessons learned.

#

I always go WAY overboard on cooling now.

#

...to answer your question, it did not catch fire

marsh helm
#

thats HOT

sudden adder
#

according to Technology Connections, many small space heaters actually have a sensor that turns it off it it gets too hot, but also keep the sensor warm so it doesnt cool off and turn back on

marsh helm
#

yeah i just watched that last month

#

if only the 5090 had that

#

but alas

sudden adder
#

the biggest safety feature of the 5090 is the price

amber sparrow
neon spoke
drowsy mason
# amber sparrow

Chimkin. Nice and fried. Lettuce lookin' good too. Looks like a Caesar salad under there. Nice.

silver fable
opaque halo
#

I only paid $1275 for my entire PC

#

$1.7K is more than my house payment

silver fable
#

I wish my apartment payments were lower. :/

#

I'd love to have a 2br/ba for less than $1.7k in Bozeman.

opaque halo
#

I have a 3br/ 3 1/2 ba on 2 acres for $1270 - coastal NC πŸ™‚

silver fable
#

I have an 18 month lease. Will look for someplace cheaper to live I can transfer to then.

open rune
opaque halo
#

Honestly - it's why I live where I do. Used to drive an hour to work but not having to live in that chaos is WONDERFUL

left mulch
#

Heh yeah I’ll be paying $1300/mo for a 2 bedroom and it is a pretty nice area…I think the midwestern prices are just amazing tbh

neon spoke
#

My per month is a bit different south of Boston. I wish I was paying 1300/mn that's awesome

amber sparrow
#

Boston and surrounding is STUPID expensive

#

My BIL lives in Boston

#

Even 14 years ago, he had a 2br/1ba that he had a roommate. They each paid $2000/month

#

I think that was in Dorchester

full fern
#

Jeebus, that's bad.

amber sparrow
#

Yea, Boston real estate is NUTS

neon spoke
#

Selling this place is my retirement plan. In this economy nothing else will work for that πŸ€ͺ

narrow hare
#

@everyone

#

i need help

wise bayBOT
narrow hare
#

what is the app that some1 uses to make musicc

#

like that one guy who does the mangolia speed runs

opaque halo
# narrow hare @everyone

Good thing the everyone ping is disabled. Imagine pinging 350K people for a question like this.

narrow hare
#

fr

#

who would do that

amber sparrow
#

Ok, hear me out. Even though Kanye is batshit crazy, this song goes HARD

neon spoke
amber sparrow
#

Yeaaaaaaa, but....kanyes part goes kinda hard

#

Woke up an optimist Sun was shinin', Iβ€²m positive (We can run) Then I heard you were talkin' trash (Iβ€²m on a mystery) Hold me back, I'm bout' to spaz