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livid plover
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nvidia been stingy with VRAM for years, it's insane

copper notch
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The predicted rumoured leaked whatever TDP of 4090 was 600W up until release date depending on what Internet bullshitter one decided to follow.

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or rather 600W to 800W

marsh helm
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they bought up the worlds supply of gddr6x

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and rationed it out like it was the 1920s

livid plover
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doing everything to can to try and upsell you

copper notch
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I don't believe the 600W TDP rumours at all.

wheat karma
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I can imagine 550w at least if 4090 was 450

copper notch
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They make all kinds of prototype hardware to test limits and stuff, and probably 4-8 different configurations of each model to figure out the best profitable way to go, but just because they make prototypes like that doesn't mean they ever intend for them to be sold on store shelves. They can also purposefully put specs in prototypes that are different from what they plan to release so that people do not leak the actual real product.

marsh helm
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this is probably as far as it got

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that thing looks like it would bend the pcie board

copper notch
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Years ago in like 2002-2003 or so before AMD64 architecture was officially released, about a year before, I got an AMD Clawhammer prototype in an AMD Solo system. It was 800MHz. I still have it. AMD sent me a final silicon update at 1.6GHz, but the actual chips shipped to market at 1.8GHz.

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So just because "some guy" has hardware before everyone else doesn't ever mean that what they have is what the company is going to ship to consumers.

marsh helm
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yuh

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im just saying that it was in the cards

copper notch
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They had a 20GB 3080 also even on leaked slides that were official, never happened.

marsh helm
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yep

copper notch
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Now there are rumours of a 24GB 4080 coming once the new memory chips required for it are available in the future, but justs that - rumours.

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hahaha, what's that 3 phase power connector?

marsh helm
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its safer

sudden adder
copper notch
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hahahahaha

copper notch
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also crypto mining rigs

marsh helm
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yuh for sure

wheat karma
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dont think anyone thats buying a 5090 cares about psu upgrade while theyre at it

amber sparrow
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Yea prob not

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If a 5070 or whatever required you to go to like a 1500w psu, that's a different story

marsh helm
silver fable
marsh helm
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I spoted someone who has stock in coal power plants

hearty stirrup
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when a system build comes with an electrical re-do for a room to get you a 240v outlet

prisma dove
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how about a dual PSU? or dual 110v input, like server PSU's?

hearty stirrup
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if you're dealing with that, you're going to have big problems if an input fails

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plus, people would plug them in wrong and trip the breaker

prisma dove
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I run a UPS on each main pc (mine and my wife's) and on the network equipment.
but yeah, upgraded a circuit first, one room needed to protect on the extra draw if everything started at once.

hearty stirrup
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from a reliabiltiy perspective, electricians would love my design rules for rooms

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likely to be an office? 2 or more circuits for wall plugs

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living room? 3 circuits minimum

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kitchen? 3-4 (dedicated for fridge, microwave, deep freeze if applicable)

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not counting the 240v50a for the stove

marsh helm
amber sparrow
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Our kitchen excluding stove has 2

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But the 3 bedrooms on a single 15amp breaker is duuuuuuuumb

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I hate it here

silver fable
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I wish the rental I'm in had more in the kitchen. If I run the air fryer, stove, and toaster ( bread, not oven ) at the same time, I trip the breaker.

opaque halo
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Electricians looked at me funny when I called them to run a single circuit for the over the stove microwave when "there's already a plug available". I had connected a blender to it to test it and the under cabinet lights dimmed.

prisma dove
# hearty stirrup not counting the 240v50a for the stove

I found out from a contractor connecting an outdoor ceiling fan that the outside outlets were connected to the family room circuit, you know, the one with the big screen tv. Had the split up real quick. Even divided the room because of the 55 gal aquarium and 200W heater.

storm wedge
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Is it possible to FaceTime on iPhone and be someone complete different then who your supposed to be..ya know with a kind of filter?..and how do I expose this when it's happening

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Anybody?

opaque halo
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Sounds like someone is trying to do some low level trolling.

storm wedge
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Yes

opaque halo
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Don't think many here are going to help with that.

prisma dove
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Could always wear a mask... If you want to be someone else.

storm wedge
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I think it's my girlfriend talking to her "lover " and doing it right in front of me

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I just wanna know if it's possibe

opaque halo
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sounds like a trust issue and maybe some counselling is in order rather than a "caught ya"

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"anything" is possilbe with the right tech.

storm wedge
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What's the tech or app called

civic quarry
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the environmental risk is just something awful

prisma dove
prisma dove
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for any reason.

wise bayBOT
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void gale
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pc cleaning day . dust everywhere on filters blobsweats

tall vapor
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Judging by that pic you clean yer pc more than regularly enough ๐Ÿ˜…

filter's all clear still for air to pass through (ie the holes be clear), just a bit of dust that's caked onto the actual metal of the filter. Honestly.... that's what I'd consider to still be more than good, don't have the time nor need to do a full clean every couple weeks

livid plover
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Yeah that looks pretty fine. Filter did it's job as intended

void gale
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yeah filters doing the job well

karmic tiger
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can someone on windows and with CS2 chack whether game capture hooks it correctly on last update

smoky rapids
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Assuming someone doesn't do that sooner i can check when I get home in a few hours.

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I'm at least caught up as of whatever may have been released at least 12-15 hours ago.

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Unless there was a newer one later.

karmic tiger
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there was one 9 hours ago apparently

smoky rapids
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Yeah. I'd need to grab that as well.

marsh helm
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pen

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i have news

karmic tiger
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paper

karmic tiger
marsh helm
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i got a cute picture of dragon

karmic tiger
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ooooooh

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cute

marsh helm
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their feets cold tho

karmic tiger
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XD

marsh helm
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๐Ÿ˜ข

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also some ppl are making fanmods of my mod

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so more dragons will be roaming rimworld

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๐Ÿ‰ im around 100 dragons now

karmic tiger
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^^

marsh helm
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if a dragon eats your cow its a 95% chance its my fault

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as always i tell my subscribers to just leave some burgers outside their base

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this keeps dragons happy

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so they dont eat your cows

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nobody listens tho so many ppl have hangry dragons

wise bayBOT
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amber sparrow
civic quarry
humble wyvern
karmic tiger
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rinse your mobo

livid plover
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Soap up your ram

prisma dove
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๐Ÿ‘€

sudden adder
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soak the sockets

karmic tiger
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sandblast the gpu

livid plover
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Apply garlic to your southbridge

opaque halo
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oil bath for cooling. Don't need any fans and seals the dust out.

smoky rapids
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It works but not as easily as days of old.

karmic tiger
amber sparrow
sudden adder
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More like a Fable than Fiber at this point

amber sparrow
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Now to be home by 1 tomorrow. I deserve it. Cranked out $15K of pool repairs today and will end up being a 12.5 hour day

amber sparrow
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Wut

marsh helm
amber sparrow
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3 heaters and a variable speed pump

marsh helm
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did you do a leak test?

amber sparrow
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Pulled old one out of this spot without destroying plumbing and dropped this big shitter in

marsh helm
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oops

carmine ibex
marsh helm
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oooh god

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i god banned T__T

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i just wanted to post about cool pot

hearty stirrup
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it was a combination of keywords that hit normally spam things

marsh helm
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T__T sad

hearty stirrup
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generated

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nitro

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the two words that hit

marsh helm
carmine ibex
marsh helm
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it yeeted me straight out

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i didnt even get a message

carmine ibex
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oof

marsh helm
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i had to use google to find the discord link

carmine ibex
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when I stupidly posted a Tenor link three times in a row one time, I just got muted

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and I've posted a link with nitro in the name (the Acer monitors) and I'm pretty sure it just got deleted (probably same situation as the Tenor thing, you will get muted if it happens enough)

marsh helm
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dont post that or you will be banned

carmine ibex
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that's insane
I've never gotten banned for something like that..

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I find a ban really, REALLY bad
a mute is far better

marsh helm
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i guess i can leave a message in support

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but what if it bans me T__T

carmine ibex
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I mean, I assume it's to help cut down on someone just DMing everyone after posting it in here but... I still find an auto ban a big no-no

wheat karma
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How did you rejoin

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I guess mods unbanned you quickly

marsh helm
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i just clicked the ops discord invite link

wheat karma
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So intel are OC champs eh

marsh helm
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maybe it just kicked me

wheat karma
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Could be

marsh helm
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when i see fenrir again ill talk to them about it

wheat karma
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I really want a 6ghz CPU so badly

carmine ibex
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auto kick still a big no-no to me

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if I get kicked off a Discord server, a lot of times I just won't rejoin

marsh helm
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it had some sort of message and it spasmed discord

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then it delete ops from my list

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i dont know what it said tho

carmine ibex
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I got banned (it got reverted after a few minutes but they still kicked me) from a Discord server for posting an Imgur link.. really stupid thing and I have refused to rejoin
I did join again for a day or two and then left cause I just felt too bad
it wasn't just one mod tripping.. there were 4 users going Erm mods? and posting memes of nice virus and phishing link attempt etc.
it was insane.. just for an Imgur link
I looked at the rules and I wasn't going against anything KEKW
I did say something like you can copy the mp4s here and paste into Discord to use.. and maybe that was it? but that's insane

marsh helm
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odd

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ive missbanned ppl before tho

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i always feel bad when it happens

carmine ibex
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I posted the link once, it got deleted.. I asked why and then the users were like it's better to post in this channel and have it embed so it's less suspicious
and after discussing for a few minutes and posting in the channel I was told to post in, that's what got me banned ICANT

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and it's more that they were just being... incredibly dumb
I don't think I want to be in that Discord server... for now, at least

marsh helm
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i remove stress from my life

copper notch
carmine ibex
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could be fun just to say you have a high frequency mhm
but I'd rather be practical

copper notch
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I think CPU frequency is one of the least intersting elements of the performance of a CPU for over a decade. We had 4GHz CPUs over a decade ago, and a few that went above 5, and then more that were in the 3-4 range ever since, and now once again some in the 5-6+ range, but in clock speed alone it doesn't represent any major performance increase over a 10 year period of time. If it doubled to 10GHz it would only be twice as fast as they are now, and it would be a tremendous technical feat to pull that off stable without LN2 or whatever. At the same time countless other architectural changes have greatly increased both the single and multi-thread performance of CPUs far more in the last 10 years than the clock speed has. And now we're seeing the addition of other forms of accelerators becoming the norm to advance computing in other ways.

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So yeah, clock speed is pretty uninteresting overall IMHO

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Make a 3GHz CPU that is 2x as fast as a 9800X3D and then I'm impressed. ๐Ÿ™‚

marsh helm
copper notch
amber sparrow
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Text from wifey

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Tiny little burrowing owl

opaque halo
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Save the hooter

terse helm
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who doesn't love hooters

civic quarry
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obs best software

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@amber sparrow episode 1 of the new season of silo is good

amber sparrow
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My wife slacking on getting that login info

civic quarry
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RIP

amber sparrow
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At least it's FIBER FRIDAY!

civic quarry
amber sparrow
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Awfully tempted to actually have them upgrade me to 3 gig.

civic quarry
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"price for life" is an interesting idea

prisma dove
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Whose life?

terse helm
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do you have 5+ GbE equipment?

amber sparrow
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No. Just 2.5gig nic but with wife on tiktok/face time and both kids on consoles downloading shit and whatnot, we can probably run into a data bottleneck

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Kiddos having game pass ultimate + faster internet is def going to equal more frequent downloads of stuff

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Though I could prob QoS their asses to not get priority when I need it

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Actually I only haz 1gig nic. Sounds like it might be a good time to drop in a pcie nic

terse helm
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tbh I doubt you're gonna run into that problem

hearty stirrup
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if there's enough devices involved, you won't necessarily need it unless you want to max out the 3gig on your own

amber sparrow
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I mean, we have 3 smart TVs, 3 cell phones, 1 tablet, 3 consoles and 2 PCs usually all on at the same time. All with varying degrees of usage. And for only $25 more per month to have triple the bandwidth, might be no a bad idea to take advantage

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I'll see how it goes with the 1 gig first tho

terse helm
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yeah but you overestimate how much you'll actually use

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at 1Gbps a 100GB game is downloaded in under half an hour

sudden adder
livid plover
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if the incoming eats the 3gigs and it's just gigabit out on each port from there, and it can route the entire 3gig out spread across the ports, it would be a small peak speed hit to take for having a spread out biiig pipe of internet

amber sparrow
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QoS would assist with that

terse helm
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doubtful tbh

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I mean if you want the better thing because bigger number and you're a nerd, you do you

amber sparrow
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It's so I don't have to say "don't do bandwidth heavy shit when I'm streaming"

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But yea, 1 gig is prob fine

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Will test and see, and can always upgrade plan later

marsh helm
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they must give tribute

amber sparrow
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I bought the cookies so that doesn't exactly do me much good doggolul

marsh helm
tall vapor
marsh helm
tall vapor
marsh helm
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yeah its funny

tall vapor
# marsh helm

protip: wiggle cpu round in socket to ensure that it's actually in there

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very defensive of that guy, lel

marsh helm
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i was looking at someone install one of the cpus and yeah you can get it misaligned if you arnt paying attention

tall vapor
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of course, but again how

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you can misalign any CPU if yer not paying attention as to whether it's actually in there

marsh helm
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well actually hardcore overclockign showed the how

tall vapor
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that how I know

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but again how can you

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do that

marsh helm
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im pretty sure it would make noise

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also why is this an issue now all of a sudden?

tall vapor
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just.... wiggle cpu around a bit to check that it's actually in there, take another looksie

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and THEN close the latch

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it's not hard

marsh helm
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i agree

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since ive seen nobody do that before

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but i have seen busted motherboards on ebay that look like that

tall vapor
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I could prolly install those CPUs blindfolded, ngl

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the "it's actually in there" wiggle is very distinct

marsh helm
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it would be difficult if it was upright

tall vapor
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yeah but I don't do that

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why would I

tall vapor
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let gravity work /FOR/ me, rather than against

livid plover
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no, build it upside down

marsh helm
livid plover
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i said upside down kek

marsh helm
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this is upside down

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and rotated

tall vapor
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pins facing the ground

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that's what echo meant

marsh helm
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no no you can build in this case with the side glass on teh table

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and with your hands coming from the top or front

tall vapor
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you know what I do?

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I put cpu in socket

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then put board in case

marsh helm
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i dropped my q6600

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on the floor

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pins first

tall vapor
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how

marsh helm
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i was excited and i have nerve damage?

tall vapor
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yeah but how can it even fall that far

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if ya got board on desk, cpu box on desk, and do everything on desk

marsh helm
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idk i had it in my hand and my body seized

tall vapor
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fair ig

marsh helm
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it just happens sometimes

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i throw mugs too

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nothing happened to it tho

tall vapor
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I did manage to run into the door with a cup in me hand

marsh helm
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ouch

tall vapor
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cup didn't shatter actually

marsh helm
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oh nice

tall vapor
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well it did once I dropped it...

marsh helm
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ive ended the life of many mugs

tall vapor
marsh helm
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my body sometimes pinches my spine with my bones

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and it makes my arm go numb

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or move

tall vapor
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I'm clumsy af too, and yet I still manage to solder BGA CPUs batty_sips

marsh helm
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i cant even see the pins as my eyesight is blurrrry

stark dust
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Hmmm, using regular webcams for streaming isnt ideal in low-light conditions (live synthesizer performance with lighting show).

What's the next best thing to a Logitech Streamcam that doesnt cost an arm and a leg?

marsh helm
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but i still dont see myself messing up an install like that person did

tall vapor
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mine's too, do need me some magnification for that

marsh helm
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you need a camera

stark dust
tall vapor
marsh helm
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its going to cost $400+

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how well does a smartphone handle the low light?

tall vapor
marsh helm
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some phones can get pretty cheap

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used

stark dust
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Bummer...yeah, my brain is going: "Sounds good, buy one", but my heart is going: "Buy a new synth for the money..."

marsh helm
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do you have a smartphone you can test and see if it would work?

tall vapor
# marsh helm used

yeah but at that point yer better off buyin the best used actual cam that you can get for the money

marsh helm
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well im thinking $120

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my used iphone was $170

tall vapor
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no chance

marsh helm
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an old pixel is $200

tall vapor
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some phones are still good-ish at low light photos sure with exposure time and all trickery (and combining photocells), but no chance to do that with video

stark dust
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ok, thanks, but I think I'll just have to live with the Logitechs I have then...if I get rich and famous, I'll invest in some real cameras.

marsh helm
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im not sure whats the best camera for webcam use

stark dust
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I've set them all to 24fps, but quality is still a bit iffy when the lights go down

marsh helm
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a lot of them will overheat

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you really just need light

tall vapor
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either you get more light, or you stumble upon a heavy cash influx

full fern
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I have a couple of old phones hanging around that make great cameras. They seem to deal with low light a lot better than webcams. Depends what you have

tall vapor
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that's what ye got

full fern
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(Even the sorta crappy phones)

tall vapor
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but yeah, if old phone's around def try those first

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wouldn't be hard to beat a webcam

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but don't expect perfection

marsh helm
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yeah for sure

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old sony phones lose value like rocks

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in the ocean

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like sandstone rocks

tall vapor
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unless you can find a recent enough xperia z series or something for 60 bucks I wouldn't buy a phone for that explicit purpose quite honestly

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it's never gonna be great after all

marsh helm
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blobsweats true

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that case is out of stock

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darn

tall vapor
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which one

marsh helm
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i wanted to order it

tall vapor
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looks like a generic o11d/o11xl offshoot to me

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dunno which one tho, there's dozens

marsh helm
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SSUPD Xhuttle

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oh i can preorder it

tall vapor
tall vapor
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yeah it's not even out yet

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and yeah I think that I don't need to say that I consider it to be ugly as sin ๐Ÿ˜…

marsh helm
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blobsweats why does nobody like how it looks?

tall vapor
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in terms of cases that look like rn I'd say that both fractal&bq got things on offer, otherwise the market's empty pretty much (okay there's some nice lianli ones too, but rare)

marsh helm
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like a fractal north?

tall vapor
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north, era2, ridge

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things like that

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Do wish that the era2 was available in rosegold tho

marsh helm
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they look too normal for me

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well i like the north

tall vapor
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do wish that the north was available without the wood, ngl

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ie just make it a slitted front define

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but if wood then def the white one

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the torrent series is also quite nice, but damn I'd like a version with less gamer edge...

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I don't need for me case to stare at me angrily

marsh helm
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torrent seems pretty expensive

tall vapor
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but yah, too agressive for me anyway

marsh helm
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๐Ÿ˜ฑ

terse helm
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fun

tall vapor
# marsh helm

either shut off the lighting or put a solid panel on it and it's gonna look much better no doubt

marsh helm
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thonk maybe

terse helm
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neh that kind of removes the whole point that it's a pc

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but I don't think doom red is the right colour choice for the rgb inside

tall vapor
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yeah def not

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and that green glow that gets added from somewhere doesn't help either

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also

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put a strip round the rim on the inside

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more evenly lit

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rather than an ugly glowing fan of doom

white coral
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Anybody knows why the steam page for OBS is " currently unavailable in your region" in europe?

amber sparrow
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Le sigh of relief. Tech actually here to finish fiber install

white coral
silver fable
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!download Could always just get the non-Steam version

wise bayBOT
white coral
full fern
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We're splurging on a movie theatre showing of The Fifth Element this Sunday! Gonna be fun as hell.

terse helm
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multipass!

silver fable
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She knows it's a multipass.

compact lark
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my default changed when I installed the ae-5 plus yesterday, changed it back to virtual, then my controller today.. oh well. eartrumpet failed to keep my default unchanged

amber sparrow
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I might actually cry

full fern
prisma dove
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"Your internet connection is very fast."

amber sparrow
wise bayBOT
# amber sparrow I might actually cry

Speed tests mean very little with regards to streaming and your choice of bitrate. They measure your raw upload speed to a server that's near you (likely run by your local ISP), instead of your stable upload speed to a streaming server. Your stable speed will determine the bitrate you can comfortably stream at.

The stable speed can be estimated as roughly 70-75% of the speed test result in a lot of cases, however this is by no means a perfect estimate. In reality, it may end up being much worse if there's problems between your ISP and the streaming service.

amber sparrow
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100 quality to canada klax. SUCK IT

civic quarry
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is this still through century link?

amber sparrow
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well, yes and no

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lumen owns centurylink

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and the fiber is quantum

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also owned by lumen

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centurylink directly really only offers DSL here so my name is still accurate

civic quarry
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heh at least you understood why I was asking

amber sparrow
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of course. I aint no dummy

terse helm
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[citation needed]

amber sparrow
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my IQ of 137

wary holly
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*cries at the speed of 9-10 Mbps with a latency of 70-1250 ms*

civic quarry
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Still happy with mine

amber sparrow
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Ok network nerds. 2 seperste phones in the exact same position. 1 getting 10x faster speed on same wifi vs the other

brazen thunder
marsh helm
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oh the LIAN LI SUP 01 is on sale

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what case to get >.<

tall vapor
marsh helm
tall vapor
marsh helm
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yuh

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on sale

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pretty good value

tall vapor
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Supoi, not to be confused with Sukhoi

marsh helm
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im a little worried that ill need a pcie gen 5 raiser cable

tall vapor
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oh.

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now I see that

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why.

marsh helm
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well new nvidia gpus might make use of it

tall vapor
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no I mean why's it a riser situation like that

amber sparrow
tall vapor
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ie the snapragon 865 or the exynos 990

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okay, can't find anything abt what they use for WiFi hardware anyway, but gimme a sec

silver fable
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I'd say it's a pretty safe bet Matty has the Snapdragon.

tall vapor
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go to the network preferences, tap the current connection, and scroll down (while a chonky download be goin, preferably). Could be that it's a shared 2.4&5GHz situation and the s20 connects to the 2.4 whereas the a54 connects to the 5?

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basically what I wanna know is whether the slowness is actually represented in the link speed or if there's something else going on here

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can also check in your access point web interface while the phones be doing stuff, if that is any good

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here's me phone connected to wifi and actually doing stuff in my interface, for example (can get both RX&TX (which is from the AP pov in this case, obv) to jump to 80MHz VHT-MCS 9 VHT-NSS2 Short GI (which results in 866.7 Mbit/s per direction on wifi 802.11ac), in this case if I get upload&download goin to max simultaneously, but yeah ig this demonstrates it well enough

marsh helm
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what do i need for a 2 pc setup?

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one for streaming and one for gaming

livid plover
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How you transporting the content between them?

marsh helm
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my mind

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do i need a capture card?

terse helm
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yeah

marsh helm
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i think ill get that su

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for my current pc

terse helm
#

there are ways to do that without but the point of the two-pc setup is to avoid the overhead that those methods have

full fern
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You can use other methods, but the capture card is the best performing option. I have used NDI (Distro AV) and Teleport with OBS on each machine just fine.

marsh helm
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well my issue is if im rendering something on my unreal rig

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its going to be annoying to have no pc

#

how much does a capture card cost?

terse helm
#

a shitty one, $20

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a good one, $120+

marsh helm
#

do they use USB or pcie?

full fern
terse helm
#

there are options inbetween of various quality

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USB or PCIe both available

full fern
#

Most are USB, PCIE gets more pricey

terse helm
#

or thunderbolt if that floats your boat

tall vapor
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there's also the question of why you think that a dual system setup's be required

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cause most folk that think they need one, well, don't

terse helm
#

I have a decklink mini recorder 4K in my gaming(/personal streaming) pc now, that this is great

tall vapor
#

๐Ÿ˜…

terse helm
#

super low-latency

marsh helm
#

well bf is coming

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so if u see it on sale tell me

terse helm
#

only downside is no hfr support

marsh helm
#

i cant imagine having 0 pc while im rendering a video or a scene

terse helm
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let it render overnight

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also I'm unsure how this involves a capture card

marsh helm
#

but what if i game overnight

terse helm
#

sounds like you just want a second PC and a multi-input monitor

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or a kvm switch

marsh helm
#

ill need that too

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how much do they run?

livid plover
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Or a renderbox

tall vapor
#

yup

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just a smol thing that ya can offload them renders to

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or ig settle on rendering things slower while yer doing other things with pc

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all doable

livid plover
#

Or a full height rack. Also acceptable solution

marsh helm
#

uuh my render pc is gonna be a 4080 super or something

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height rack O_O

terse helm
#

I'll still say though

marsh helm
#

ill have no room for my bookshelf of plushies

terse helm
#

if you spend any amount of time doing video stuff having a capture card available is great

marsh helm
#

yeah

terse helm
#

I have multiple and I use them all the time

marsh helm
#

well you see with unreal engine

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you dont really render

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its mostly done live

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then you finish it off with a render for mostly RT

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so i cant really game on the pc and keep my work running in the bg

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ill run out of vram and ram and my pc would melt

terse helm
#

reasonable reason for a second pc

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where does the capture card requirement come in, in your mind

marsh helm
#

for when i want to stream my unreal engine screen

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but not run obs on that

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i guess'

terse helm
#

ah gotcha

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yeah

marsh helm
#

UNREAL EATS ALL THINGS

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ill get audio issues and drop frames

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my 5800x and 3060ti can be a okay second pc

amber sparrow
#

FEELS SOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOD

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simultaneous 51000kbps to YT and 7750 to twitch and whatever titok live studio was sending

full fern
full fern
amber sparrow
#

so many concessions for multi streaming and UW

amber sparrow
sweet anchor
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Gratz

amber sparrow
#

thx. i'm like a giddy school girl

full fern
amber sparrow
#

the magic of gpu scaling and all ze bitrate

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ha

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And my in game ping was half or less vs usual that it is without even streaming

full fern
#

Excellent

void gale
#

Half Life 2 free on steam
Rtx update coming soon

amber sparrow
pure stream
hallow sinew
#

Watching the Mike Tyson VS Jake Paul fight soon.

civic quarry
#

same

amber sparrow
#

Cod + boxing

full fern
#

A night of mayhem and consensual violence, with a great connection!

amber sparrow
#

keep getting this ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

jaunty fulcrum
#

could be adblocker, could be something else

#

apparently netflix itself is down? LUL

amber sparrow
#

seems they werent prepared for tonights traffic

wheat karma
#

netflix gotta upgrade internet

civic quarry
#

well this is the craziest boxing match i've ever seen

amber sparrow
#

Yea this is a battle

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4 headbutts and still pulls the decision

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Wow

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This is why you never want to leave a fight in the hands of the judges

civic quarry
#

yeah but in this case that wasn't on purpose, they both were trying to knock each other out the entire time

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apparently she got screwed out of her first loss too? rigged

amber sparrow
#

Wow this chick went up 3 classes? That's insane

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Both of those ladies would whip my ass doggolul

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Really hoping Tyson lands a "knock your head off" punch

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If he can't get it done in the first couple rounds, I think Jake takes this

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He's too young and in shape to not as long as he doesn't get his head knocked off

civic quarry
#

yes I would love for mike tyson to win but I do not see that happening

amber sparrow
#

I put $5 on each of em for the fight to be finished and not go the distance

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As long as it doesn't go the distance worst case scenario I win $2.50

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Best case scenario in that I can buy a large red bull tomorrow morning kekw

smoky rapids
amber sparrow
#

This buffering is awful

smoky rapids
amber sparrow
#

Netflix really is shitting themselves on this

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TwitchTest score of 5 doggolul

full fern
#

I'm watching a movie on Netflix and it buffered for about a minute before it played haha. No buffering since thank goodness

marsh helm
#

so its 1 week till blackfriday starts O_O

#

what yall looking to get?

smoky rapids
#

If I can find a i9-12900k for good good that at least.

Wanting to upgrade to something fresher and my i5-9600k is a bit BBoomer tbh.

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Grab the one of a couple things that would normally be expensive.

civic quarry
marsh helm
sudden adder
civic quarry
marsh helm
#

microcenter has the 5700x3d for $180

sudden adder
#

5700x3d is easily available on Amazon

civic quarry
#

Tray would be 177,-, boxed 199,- now

marsh helm
#

not bad

carmine ibex
smoky rapids
#

That I trust at least.

livid plover
grizzled basin
#

does anyone know what this yellow thing is for???

terse helm
#

art?

sudden adder
#

Almost looks like its for a wall lamp, but then it just goes wild at the end

silver fable
#

The whole room is art... mismatched chairs, weird statue things, crumpled paper with a frame, art deco light, etc.

livid plover
#

Weird cable channel with extra channels bolted on the outside, awful

sudden adder
wheat karma
crystal elm
#

Why did obs studios get gay

wise bayBOT
civic quarry
amber sparrow
#

Nacho time

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Added some pico, hot sauce and sour cream. A touch of shredded lettuce would be nice but we are out

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And the avocados aren't ripe....WHY?!?! PepeHands

terse helm
#

avocados can be so hit-or-miss

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it's like bananas they have a 5-minute window during which they're the perfect ripeness

amber sparrow
#

A few hours in a paper bag in cupboard goes a long way

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I didn't plan ahead properly

opaque halo
#

15 bean soup going in the InstaPot with a smoked ham hock.

terse helm
#

I count way more than 15 beans

prisma dove
#

did you count the beans? Only 15, no more and no less? ๐Ÿ˜

opaque halo
#

๐Ÿ˜†

marsh helm
copper notch
#

Um... camel case is CamelCase not camel_case. Snake case is snake_case. I'm just saying. ๐Ÿ˜›

terse helm
#

it's actually camelCase

copper notch
terse helm
#

in the context of programming I've never heard of anything being used in camelCase with the first letter also capitalised (unless the language or conventions require such use for specific tokens) but ok I'll concede that you have a source that I'm sure you didn't edit to your benefit before taking the screenshot

copper notch
#

Well, looks like you have now! You're welcome! ๐Ÿ˜›

terse helm
#

involuntarily put in the 10k club

copper notch
#

It's wikipedia

marsh helm
marsh helm
#

oof

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got some good news about upcoming gpus

clever rune
#

anyone know how to fix this kind of an error?

wise bayBOT
silver fable
#

So, got over 100 TB. burkeGasm

amber sparrow
#

Here I am as a pleb with my 5TB

silver fable
#

I'm also an idiot with a project I want to finish. If I was smart, I'd have this in a server rack, and not just physically sitting in the bottom of my PC case, since I have no drive cages.

opaque halo
#

Matty needs storage now that he's got dat fiber

silver fable
#

Already decided when I move, I'm pulling all the drives back out, and will just reinsert when I unpack. I still have all the packing for the drives, so they'll be safe, at least.

terse helm
#

don't forget to number them

silver fable
#

Why bother?

#

It's not an array, really. Just StableBit doing it's thing. It knows what's what.

#

Just balancing out the load ATM.

sudden adder
#

I stopped using stable bit, because it didnโ€™t know โ€œwhat was whatโ€œ, and the devs couldnโ€™t figure out what was going on either

silver fable
#

I might change to something else when I get a proper server in my new place.

#

The biggest downfall, will of course, be the transfer from StableBit to whatever I change to. I'll need to buy more drives, me thinks.

sudden adder
#

For me, it kept failing on a file that no longer existed. And no matter what I did, or what was suggested for me to do, it never fixed the problem.

#

So the result just ended up being โ€œjust rebuild the whole thingโ€œ,

#

At that point, Iโ€™d rather just go back to my StarTech RAID 10 box and replace drives as needed

opaque halo
#

Ever try FreeNAS? I loaded it up on an older PC to play around with it a bit and learn more about NAS / Storage / etc. That way when the storage guys at work started saying things I had an idea of what they were talking about.

wheat karma
terse helm
#

nah

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100TB is small fry data hoarding

sudden adder
#

Internet Archive, according to Google's AI thing, is "over 35 petabytes"

wheat karma
#

that's a whole lot of hard drives ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

karmic tiger
sudden adder
karmic tiger
#

XD

tall vapor
opaque halo
tall vapor
#

yeah. if going for truenas then most def truenas scale

marsh helm
terse helm
#

ew

#

cisco

marsh helm
#

ciiiscoo

tall vapor
# marsh helm

Lucky kid, they could've ended up with a single loose lightswitch instead

grizzled basin
marsh helm
#

yuh i dont like concrete ceilings

civic quarry
livid plover
#

what is this? a dirt road. what's it made of? sand and gravel, some rocks too. what's in concrete? sand and gravel

#

therefor, it's kinda a dirt roof, minecrafters rejoice!

carmine ibex
#

Suigi has all 5 main category star WRs now

wise bayBOT
#

Wondering what the logo and banner on the OBS Community server are? They are the LGBTQ+ Pride flag, showing our support for Pride Month! For more information, click here

wary holly
#

Note to self: don't bind the same hotkey to both start and stop recording, it invites accidents if you can't see the UI.

civic quarry
sudden adder
#

๐Ÿฟ

civic quarry
hearty stirrup
hearty stirrup
terse helm
#

yes, but

#

not every system does that

#

numbering the drives is extremely easy

#

and you wouldn't be the first to figure out that your system doesn't do it the hard way

amber sparrow
#

@civic quarry how's the chair

civic quarry
#

sucks, returning it

amber sparrow
#

Ouch

#

What sucks about it?

civic quarry
#

I shift positions a lot when sitting, sometimes I'll put a leg up or lean on my side a little bit

#

normal sitting it is good but any other sitting feels terrible

amber sparrow
#

Gotcha. So for someone that doesn't shift around a bunch, decent value then?

civic quarry
#

yeah, the one other thing is that I wish I would've gotten the one with the 3D armrests adjustment but either way if the comfort was still the same I would've returned also

#

I am working a chair expense into my promotion/salary negotions at work right now ๐Ÿ˜„

amber sparrow
#

HM on the way!!!!

civic quarry
#

I live with a friend who has a herman miller chair and it really is just the most comfortable chair ever lol

amber sparrow
#

I'd like to have one but can't justify the spend currently. If this potential job opportunity comes through, it would be am easy trigger pull

#

Thanks to gamepass, I'm discovering golf is just as frustrating in a video game as it is irl

#

1 shot makes up for the 10 shitty ones. But those 10 shitty ones are still infuriating

vernal current
#

for some reason google.com is defualting to my current region. I remember typing something like google.com/ncr so its default to USA region

civic quarry
#

i suck at PGA lol

vernal current
#

but its not working

#

any idea what im supposed to do?

amber sparrow
vernal current
#

i did

amber sparrow
#

Based on that response you are missing the irony

vernal current
#

i know what you are trying to do

#

im just in a no fun mood right now , sorry :\

amber sparrow
#

Lame

#

All work and no play makes for a dull naar

sudden adder
#

And now im having nostalgia for the old golf simulator rooms they used to have here at the former indoor mini-golf

vernal current
#

i just made a HUGE achievement, but lost a lot of money and have no idea what my future looks like right now

vernal current
#

so just trying to do random things so i dont think about it

amber sparrow
#

But they are hella spendy

sudden adder
vernal current
#

so i just want to know how to make google netural

amber sparrow
#

I could prob play 100 rounds on the shitty public course for the price of a good sim

#

And we can play year round here

civic quarry
#

i have a friend with a sim, pretty cool

#

I have never actually been out on a course before but have played that a bunch

amber sparrow
#

Being on a course is a blast.....with enough beers

vernal current
#

btw the google.com/ncr works for google.com but as soon as i go to gmail or something it goes back to my current region. It was nevr like this before

civic quarry
amber sparrow
#

I might get kiddo and me a few used clubs for Christmas and see if us going out on weekends for fun/practice sticks

sudden adder
#

Diy sim

amber sparrow
#

Easy way to scholarship

vernal current
civic quarry
#

????

#

what do you expect me to say about this

amber sparrow
#

Try it

#

Then complain

civic quarry
#

(to them not us)

vernal current
#

im not even logged in...so there is no reason to change the region

terse helm
#

I prefer to complain first

#

to matty

amber sparrow
#

Well naar needs us as safe space

amber sparrow
terse helm
#

I can't

vernal current
terse helm
#

if they're within complaining distance I've already shot them in the face and they're dead

amber sparrow
vernal current
#

โค๏ธ

amber sparrow
#

There's this warzone dude I keep seeing and he's hilarious. Lumpe I think?

#

His shit talk is on point

vernal current
#

i almost cried on thursday and god damnit i needed to

#

:\

amber sparrow
#

I cry every time I see my grocery bill

vernal current
#

soon i wont even be able to get a grocery bill

amber sparrow
#

Let go from work? ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

vernal current
#

no

#

its not that i dont want to talk about it lol, but it would be self advertisment

#

but ill try to condense it and not self advertise as much as possible

#

I was working on a project recently and the funding I had was VERY tight. I basically knew this would be a financial faliure before i even started. So I went with the thought process that this would be my "exit" or "retirment" and just do it " 1 more time" and for almost a year I really was thinking like this

Then I did the thing and I exceeded all execations, except the financial one of course. The financial stuff is not my current worry, but the reception I got from everyone. Imagine your hero's telling you, you did something very very very few people could ever do and they tell you that you inspired them

I got A LOT of positive feedback and got a flood of positive emails and messages and reading them just made me tear up....and now my dumb ass, even though i told myself i would not do it again....wants to do it again and bigger and better

But we go back to problem #1 which is i need more funding and proper funding to make it financially successful

#

I hope thats good enough explanation

amber sparrow
#

Sounds like TK with uber and his previous failures that came first

#

"Failures"

vernal current
#

the project itself was successful....the failure is only the financial part

#

so i dont know what to do next and how to convince people to give money to make it viable

#

my issue was always not having enough funding...but despite that I get what I need done...just at a loss

#

i mean that should show you how effecient I am......but people just see the negatives

amber sparrow
#

Well, in most cases, money spent needs to equate to money earned...especially for those investing/spending

vernal current
#

you are right

#

but for years i have been doing this as a way to show people what I can do with minimal support...but they always doubt what I achieved

#

despite having a million pics and videos of what i do

#

and if by some chance i do get someone interested, they give me 1/2 of what i asked for and say something like "show me what you can do and we can talk later" and then i do what i say i can do and tell them "ok now give me full funding" and then they change their midn

#

mind

#

but what I did last week cannot be denied. I made sure of it. People will be talking about it for years

#

Now i just need to find someone who belives in what I do and give me proper funding

#

What I basically did last week was a showcase of my skills, but I did it in a flashy way so people would talk about it

#

anyways thanks matty

amber sparrow
#

You are still young. Stay at it

karmic tiger
vernal current
#

they gain nothing

karmic tiger
#

ok

vernal current
#

i mean it just happened last week lol. Someone lost almost $300,000 and he said "show me what you can do" and there is nothing for him to gain...I originally asked for $800,000

#

I just talked to someone yesterday and told him that either you give me the full budget or you will lose your money

#

im very transparent with these guys. I tell them exactly what will happen

#

to give you a clearer picture...they are asking me to do something big with literally 0 marketing budget

#

thats why its not financially succesful even though the product is very successful

#

i hope this made more sense

#

they keep telling me "why do you need so much money for marketing" and i keep telling them its literally the most important thing

#

its the first thing they cut from the budget

#

because its literally the biggest expense

karmic tiger
#

yee ouki

vernal current
#

so I do my thing, and people are happy, and my reputation for my work gets better...but these investors lose money because they dont want to spend on marketing

#

its a cycle

#

I'm mainly sad that I really was going to quit but the feedback had been so overwhelmingly positive that I have to do it again

livid plover
opaque halo
civic quarry
open rune
#

it's you
you're the weirdo

civic quarry
vernal current
#

i already did this

#

google.com is fine, but as soon as i click on gmail or any other google service it switches regions (without me even being signed in)

#

i have to go here and change the language

#

its not a region but langauge setting it seems

open rune
#

Can someone make the 9800x3d be in stock please

marsh helm
#

amd said it will have more stock this coming week

amber sparrow
open rune
#

I'd probably prefer a 9950X3D but I don't know what prices will look like next year

#

Also finally getting rid of the internal SATA HDD

terse helm
#

dang you still have one of those?

open rune
#

Yeah just a 2 TB WD drive for all of my screenshots and scratch recordings and download crap

opaque halo
#

Nothing wrong with using "old" tech if it still works ๐Ÿ™‚ I have an SSD along with 2 x 8TB WD HDDs ๐Ÿ™‚

open rune
#

It's being replaced with a 6 TB external :P

#

Cheap and less crap in the case, no more SATA and power cables

#

Oh snap some more just popped up at Newegg

#

Nevermind they lied

#

But it's in my cart! >_<

livid plover
sudden adder
#

Yay, hit every note on hard mode on this particular song. Cannot wait for the full release. These 4 songs are starting to get just slightly stale for me. (Wonderful songs regardless)

copper notch
#

Still haven't seen any solid info on whether 9950X3D will have dual-X3D or not. Technically it makes total sense to have it this time, but who knows what AMD will do. It'll raise the cost of the chip but IMHO it'll be worth it to pay more if it has that. There are rumours it has it and rumours it doesn't and no useful benchmarks or other info to back it up unfortunately, at least that I've seen so far. I hope that someone leaks more substantive info on it than Factorio benchmarks soon.

tall vapor
#

but yeah, will hear more in the days coming up to ces and ces will be the full showin ofc

carmine ibex
#

and how much benefit it actually makes

tall vapor
#

until then no way to be sure

somber lava
#

greetings all - just got my pc back after being in the shop

drowsy mason
#

I don't think games are gonna make a ton of use of more than 8 cores in 2024, and to the small degree they do use the additional 8, I doubt the gains from those 9-16 cores having 3D V-Cache would be transformative. I assume AMD doesn't want to put out a mega-overkill product like that, spend wafers of cache and manufacturing effort on them, and possibly get mixed or negative reviews to boot.

#

Then again, intel 12900KS is kind of a meme and exists. But just because Intel has a meme product doesn't mean AMD has to or should want to. Just my thoughts.

tall vapor
void gale
sudden adder
#

since there arent embeds for video on the server, it would help if the game name was mentioned in the chat so people didnt have to click the YT link to find out

#

although looking on Metacritic, both the Critic and User scores are 80+

void gale
#

darksouls 3 remaster rumours everywhere

sudden adder
#

Makes sense, since they announced a remaster of 2 earlier this year i believe

#

Hopefully the time between a 2 and 3 remaster wont be the same as the 7+ years between the 1 and 2 remasters. (Granted, they did have a good number of other games in between, as well as a global pandemic to work around)

open rune
#

I kinda figured DS3 was new enough it didn't really need a remaster yet
Unlike the initial release of DS1 which was uh
Lacking

livid plover
#

and seemingly they majorly patched the GTA definite edition games and made it look so much more true to the original now

copper notch
# drowsy mason I don't think games are gonna make a ton of use of more than 8 cores in 2024, an...

3D vcache as a feature marketed to consumers is marketed as a gaming feature because it does greatly improve gaming performance and it is the single best use case for the broader market. Existing games are mostly targetted towards 8 or less cores with or without hyperthreadin due to history and game developers not having huge incentives to parallelize their code further, but that is slowly changing and will continue to change as we go forward into the future and higher core counts become more and more available.

It is however a huge mistake to conclude that due to gaming being the primary way these CPUs are marketed, that gaming is the only type of software that benefits from an increase in L3 cache. Software development is another area that benefits from higher L3 cache, as do various server workloads and various other applications. Any software that is constrained by memory latency stands to benefit from higher L3 cache being present, and that is not limited to applications that only can utilize 8 or fewer cores.

#

With Zen 4 AMD limited the 16-core chips to only have one X3D enhanced die because a lot of non-gaming applications benefit more from more cores running at full clock rather than with X3D at a lower clock, so putting dual-X3D would only benefit some apps but at the expense of lowering overall multi-thread performance, so their decision to ship with only a single X3D CCD on the 12 and 16 core units made a lot of sense both from a business and technical perspective.

#

With Zen 5 and the redesigned X3D v2 however that changes, because the primary drawback of lower clock speeds on X3D enabled CCDs impacting multithreaded performance negatively is not only greatly reduced, but in fact flips around with many applications now, giving performance gains in a wide variety of apps that are not video games.

#

Look at benchmark comparisons of a wide variety of non-gaming applications, content creation, productivity and other apps on 9700X versus 9800X3D and the performance gains vary from +5% to +20% or more on non-games. There are some that are still negatively affected by the lower clock but it is now marginally lower. Only apps that are likely to be affected are those that are totally CPU bound and not memory latency affected at all.

#

The take home from these revelations is that the reasons why AMD chose to only X3D enable one CCD on Zen 4 no longer are true on Zen 5 and it is now beneficial to enable it on both CCDs, improving both gaming and NON-gaming application performance.

#

So "games wont need more than 8 cores in 2024" isn't a great technical argument against AMD having X3D on both CCDs of the 12 and 16 core chips. I'd say it is a completely irrelevant observation. ๐Ÿ™‚

#

Putting X3D on both chiplets probably raises the cost by $50, but raises the performance by 10-20% on that 2nd CCD also, and I think many people would happily pay an extra $50-100 to have that performance gain and a symmetrical chip, and not have to be forced to use Xbox gamebar or other hacks to constrain games to a single CCD.

#

Lots of people out there want it for non-gaming now, especially after seeing non-gaming results on 9800X3D. I think AMD is completely off their rocker if they do not put it on both CCDs.

#

And I think all the tech outlets will call them that in some words or another if they don't have dual-X3D for the reasons I cited. They're throwing away performance to not have it, and if they put it on there, the 9950X3D is likely to get insane rave reviews as the fastest chip in the universe blah blah blah even if they charge a lot more for it.

amber sparrow
#

Windbg is pretty good. Was just able to troubleshoot kiddos pc crashing and pointed at the silly usb wifi dongle thing. Ordered a pcie card to see if that helps

terse helm
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do you really love your child if you force them to use wifi

amber sparrow
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Yes

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I'm not running a 75ft cable from my office to his room

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I rent so drilling unnecessary holes isn't an option

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He doesn't need more than a stable wifi connection. I'm fairly certain he will survive just fine

drowsy mason
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I've been doing test streams on WiFi and it's "fineโ„ข๏ธ"

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I don't really play multiplayer, but never used to do that on wired either, so...

amber sparrow
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I wouldn't personally use wifi since I pay the bills in this bitch and shouldn't have to....but he's 11 and fortunate to have what he has

drowsy mason
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Fair

compact lark
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any experience with ethernet over power or coax?
more expensive than a wifi dongle, ofc

prisma dove
tall vapor
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that all depends on your house wiring

terse helm
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EoP kinda sucks

tall vapor
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ethernet over coax is p much what a lot of ISPs already do, as in cable modems

terse helm
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it's good if you're in like a bunker and just can't get a wifi signal in

tall vapor
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it's the same thing, just limited to LAN

terse helm
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but it tends to be very inconsistent

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ethernet over coax is generally fine if your coax cabling isn't literal shit

tall vapor
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and fun fact: what you're technically doing is to encode data into mpeg frames and then that's what yer sending down the wiring

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at least with what ISPs do

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dunno abt ethernet over coax tho, but I can't imagine it being all too dissimilar

terse helm
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that's not what in-house ethernet-over-coax things do

tall vapor
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ah interesting

terse helm
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afaik

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but unlike power wiring, coax cables are meant for transferring data signals so that system immediately has a leg up

tall vapor
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okay, but we must be talking abt moca now tho, as that is the most common one these days for in home coax IP

prisma dove
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yep, moca adapters here.

terse helm
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yeah I forgot the name for them

tall vapor
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ah, finding out whether moca too does it the same way that docsis does would require being a partner in that whole proprietary thing

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cool cool

terse helm
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there's also just straight ethernet on coax btw but I'm pretty sure that never escaped the 10Mbps era

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(10BASE2)

tall vapor
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yup, that indeed didn't escape that era

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but honestly wouldn't surprise me if moca does indeed do it differently as compared to docsis

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the main reason as for why docsis uses mpeg2 (could be that it's mpeg4 these days?) as the transport after all is so that it can be run over all of the TV backend&everything

terse helm
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I wonder if that is still the case for modern docsis versions

tall vapor
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oh it absolutely is

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cause why would you wanna replace all the backend stuffs that originates in the 80s&90s

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newer docsis standards are mostly done by improving the encoding and by allocating more channels to it

terse helm
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I think docsis 4 finally drops that?

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hard to find info about this specific bit

tall vapor
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hard to find info on docis4 as a whole too

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but yeah it could be that 4 drops that cause TV is mostly done via IP too these days

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so just allocate the entire bandwith ya got to docsis and let the tv run over there too via IP

hearty stirrup
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docsis 3.x already allows that

civic quarry
#

Damn, GTA V really evolved... I "only" get around 80 FPS in 1080p with my 3080

open rune
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GPU bound?

full fern
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It's always been such a poorly optimized game haha. People with 4090's be like "yay I got 100FPS" haha

civic quarry
open rune
#

Is your 3080 GPU bound in GTAV

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With whatever settings got you 80 FPS

civic quarry
#

Yup

open rune
#

At 1080p?

civic quarry
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Monitor is 1920x1080, so yes

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According to Nvidia Overlay GPU is at around 98%

carmine ibex
#

I'm really happy 2560x1440 is so cheap now

open rune
#

Seems kinda low for a 3080 driving 1080p but whatever

carmine ibex
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$102 for 1440p 180hz certified refurbished

open rune
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I would be checking whether render resolution got jacked up

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Or resolution scaling or whatever they call it

amber sparrow
#

Pretty sure gtav just runs like ass

livid plover
#

it really does

civic quarry
livid plover
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atleast some random internet guy did all the hard work for them and fixed their stupid load times

carmine ibex
#

I was tempted to get.. but I just don't need it

livid plover
#

what's the model number on it, sounds like a generic mid-tier panel monitor

civic quarry
#

Turning it off gives me 120 FPS stable

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Thanks for the hint

open rune
#

"fuckin unoptimized game" complaints are one of my pet peeves

amber sparrow
civic quarry
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I know I had more than 60 FPS with my 5700 XT but this scaling mode must have been added with one of their later updates

open rune
amber sparrow
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Da fuq

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Cmon

open rune
#

I mean more like the thought process of "this game performance is not what I expected therefore I'm going to start with the assumption that the game is poorly optimized"

Totally possible, never the place to start

civic quarry
livid plover
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it's not a bug, it's a feature matty

amber sparrow
#

Stupid bot

carmine ibex
livid plover
#

probably better luck buying it refurbed and looked over vs new and possibly dead judging by a few reivews/comments

open rune
#

Fuckin
Newegg has 9800X3Ds available as bundles
But all of the X870 boards are shitty

livid plover
#

buy a bundle, sell the rest on ๐Ÿ˜‚

copper notch
open rune
#

Oh X870
You only have 2 PCIe slots
And yet they both still share bandwidth with a couple M.2 slots
WHY

tall vapor
#

ah so it's an "x870" board, in quotation marks

open rune
#

I mean it technically would do what I need
2 unshared M.2 slots and a PCIe x4 at the bottom for a capture card

tall vapor
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yeah it's just annoy

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normal X870 is more like actual B850, and actual x870 is x870e

open rune
#

This also seems kinda sparse

tall vapor
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it is

open rune
#

But they're all like that

tall vapor
#

are those USB4 ports at least of the TB3 variety?

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prolly not

open rune
#

I mean if you go to the $500 boards then you get a cluster of 6-8 10Gb ports

tall vapor
#

we're never gonna see acceptable mainboards again, are we

open rune
#

I just don't understand why these fuckin things start at 250-300

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It's not even X870E

tall vapor
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Mainboard manufacturers want a bigger cut of the pie

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rather than just being a necessity to stick the parts that you actually care about together

livid plover
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it doesn't even have PS/2, wtf

terse helm
#

I even had to limit it to 60 because the game broke at some points

civic quarry
terse helm
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oh you were rendering at a higher res

civic quarry
terse helm
#

weird

tall vapor
drowsy mason
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Isn't newer gen PCIe somewhat legitimately hard to manufacture for or something? More PCB layers, tighter standards for signal integrity at higher data rates etc. I wonder if mobo manufacturing business is actually getting more profitable or this is what they can do without shrinking their business.

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Also inflation is kinda big lately for USD stuff. I dunno.

tall vapor
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oh no, getting more profitable no doubt

karmic tiger
#

ah, yes

tall vapor
#

a single rgb LED doesn't cost 5 bucks

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and all the software crap

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they just really wanna be of matter to you

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thou shall care abt which manufacturer of board ya got, and they believe that once they got you they got you and therefore can charge whatever they want

karmic tiger
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(the explanation is I'm using a grant flow that does redirect to twitch instead of the client-set redirect URL, but their page still pulls the info of the client-set redirect URL)

open rune
tall vapor
open rune
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The low tier $250 models are full of USB2 ports D: D:

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Like wtf is this

terse helm
#

why the fuck are all these ports listed in bytes/sec

open rune
#

I'll take MB/s over USB revisions any day

terse helm
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gimme Mbps/Gbps

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and why are the 10Gbps ports listed with 4 different speeds?

open rune
#

Can I just shrug and say "USB standards"

livid plover
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"standards"

terse helm
#

but like even the USB 2 ports which famously are all 480Mbps have different speeds listed

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39, 40, 42 and 43MB/s

open rune
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Maybe they did some benchmarks on USB speeds I dunno

open rune
#

I caved and went with an x870 board

drowsy mason
# open rune Like wtf is this

This appears to be from Hardware Unboxed's motherboard roundup, where Steve tested real-world throughput of every single port.

open rune
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I took the images from a TechSpot roundup article

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Maybe they're shared or something

drowsy mason
#

Maybe they cite HUB, maybe they plagiarized ๐Ÿคท

open rune
#

I was more concerned with the port layout :D

drowsy mason
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I'm dumb, I forgot Steve's videos are written up as articles for Techspot since he writes for them, besides the videos being branded as HUB. (Literally the same person, so not plagiarism then.)

karmic tiger
#

why the everloving fuck would you put this to be enabled by default

terse helm
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so you can know what chatters are trying to be dipshits but failing, and you can ban them anyway

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I hadn't seen that yet but I like it

karmic tiger
terse helm
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I guess yeah, but I suspect this is a minority of people compared to the people asking to know what people are trying to spam the n-word in various ways until they succeed

karmic tiger
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I'm not contesting the feature, I'm contesting the default

terse helm
#

well it does in the sense that having it off by default impedes discoverability

karmic tiger
#

the overwhelming multitudes that ask for this option can get an answer for this

terse helm
#

idk I support having it on by default

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the only thing I wonder is how it works with 'private' blocked terms

karmic tiger
#

includes them too

terse helm
#

I'd expect only the broadcaster would see those

karmic tiger
#

difference is it does not allow you to allow it

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that I can't test

terse helm
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oh you can allow messages through now too?

karmic tiger
#

yeah, this update basically turns blocked terms into an addition to automod

terse helm
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ah cool

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they should do that with links too then

shrewd flint
#

Just getting started, could I please get a suggestion on a good tutorials, or begginer's youtube channel?

karmic tiger
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can do it yourself for most links by adding http*://* as blocked

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but not 100% perfect

terse helm
#

gopher://

karmic tiger
#

lmfao

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huh