off-topic

[opaque halo]

Gotcha 🙂 My wife was a full on Deadhead for about 5 yrs. She's still into the Dead and other like bands and enjoys the gass 🙂

By full on Deadhead - she spent about 5 yrs on the road following the Dead around. Selling sandwiches in the parking lot to make money for gas and tickets for the next concert. This was in the mid 80s

[left heart]

meh, seems fine for other things

[vague cedar]

lol im not gone lie i smoke and game i smoke and watch tv rn im smoking and just talking to yall no music or nun im really in my chill mode

[left heart]

not really an earth shattering cpu or anything but it doesn't seem to be categorically worse everywhere

[marsh helm]

but for that price increase

its still not really worth getting

[left heart]

yeah hardware prices suck

[marsh helm]

theres 3 things that its top of the chart

[left heart]

this isn't an intel exclusive problem in the slightest

[marsh helm]

and 10 that they are in th emiddle

and the 14900k is just better

cheaper and faster

[opaque halo]

I've considered it for my mental health issues... but if I do then the "professionals" refuse to treat me 🙂

[marsh helm]

the motherboards for the 2nd gen on this socket start around $200+

vs the older 14th gen or the amd stuff which can be $120 and require much cheaper ram

[tall vapor]

hiya, fellow autism here...

I hereby challenge you to an autism duel

[vague cedar]

thats not true i have sicke cell and it helps with my pain so if anything they should let you

[marsh helm]

whats your RAADS–R ?

O_O mines like 214

[opaque halo]

Yup.. maybe I just try and not tell 'em. They don't test anyways 🙂

[tall vapor]

rookie numbers 😊

[opaque halo]

@vague cedar - ok if I send a friend invite to ya?

[marsh helm]

[tall vapor]

okay just had to check real q, and yah accordin to me documentation I'm at 227

[vague cedar]

even if they do test you it shouldnt be nun wrong

bro send that invite again

[tall vapor]

it's all fun and games tho, with me challenging you to that duel

[marsh helm]

the max is like 240

[tall vapor]

that is indeed correct, yup (it actually is 240, the max that is)

[marsh helm]

ive been out autismed

[tall vapor]

I too have been out autism-d before, it's quite humbling

[marsh helm]

dear lord

[tall vapor]

outism-d, so to speak

Still didn't get me paperwork till I was 15 tho

[marsh helm]

i just got it

last year...

nobody told me i had it

[civic quarry]

https://bsky.app/profile/obsproject.com the real one

[terse helm]

you missed the part where that was already answered?

though in the mean time the username changed to match the domain, which I assume is a new feature

[open rune]

I don't see where anyone provided the correct URL

Maybe I missed that part too

[terse helm]

I did but as I said in the time between then and now, it changed

#off-topic message this was correct at the time of writing

[sudden adder]

I keep forgetting to change my bluesky username to my domain name

[amber sparrow]

Wifey playing cod for basically first time ever hahaha

[prisma dove]

Is she having fun?

[amber sparrow]

Just started

[prisma dove]

alrighty, I'm outta here. Going out to dinner with a hot woman who is also my wife.

[amber sparrow]

She's having a blast haha

Most she's played in the last 5 years is animal crossing and Mario kart

[void gale]

@river vault
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2853702?hl=en

Livestream bitrates ^

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/1722171?hl=en#zippy=%2Cbitrate

^ local record bitrates

[amber sparrow]

Holy f

||this cod tied zombies into campaign in a creepy effing way||

[carmine ibex]

what does that say, I think it's a hidden message

[civic quarry]

Achievement unlocked

[livid plover]

Wait, why is the 0.1%lows so awful on all the top ryzen, where intel only drops to 200 instead of 100? Stutter city

[marsh helm]

[marsh helm]

its down to the engine

some are just tweaked to work with intel more

most of the time the .1% lows are all about the same

for raimbow

[copper notch]

@open rune Did you see the Squadron 42 reveal video I presume, and if so, what did you think of it? I'm about 80% through it so far and pretty blown away. Getting stoked for the game's final release in 2026. Gonna have to dust off the X52-Pro... 🙂

[open rune]

https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/collections/gladiator-nxt-joysticks

I actually haven't watched any of the CitizenCon stuff yet

[copper notch]

Oh gawd, you gotta watch the reveal it is amazeballs

Squadron 42 CitizenCon 2954 Live Gameplay Reveal

[copper notch]

After watching it I feel like installing all of these games and playing through them one after the other...

[civic quarry]

I loved Wing Commander III

Absolutely didn't understand the story back then but somhow managed to do a full playthrough (on PS1 btw)

[marsh helm]

have you tried the amazing x4 starwars mod?

[carmine ibex]

my headphone port seems to have died on my computer
I'm using the cinema preset monitor speakers, it sounds decent

[copper notch]

not familiar

[marsh helm]

its a lot of fun and the modders are very cool

you do need x4 and all dlcs

i got it all for $25 when it was on sale

the base game was good but its better modded

and theres many big mods

[sudden adder]

This the one you are talking about? https://www.nexusmods.com/x4foundations/mods/349

[marsh helm]

correct

the discord has faster updates tho

ive been having fun playing the sith mod

and being a menace

[amber sparrow]

Not just amd gpus squid and Yolo. Ya damn haters

[marsh helm]

what game is that?

[amber sparrow]

But holy F this game is taking every ounce of vram it can from what I can tell

Black ops 6

[marsh helm]

ah

cap your fps

[amber sparrow]

Already was capped. I ain't no rookie

[marsh helm]

[amber sparrow]

3440x1440/120

Runs locked at 120 with basically no dips

[marsh helm]

keeping you warm at night

[smoky rapids]

I'm sad I only had 2 of these but GFD they were the best 2.

[opaque halo]

Nice looking breakfast taco

[smoky rapids]

The thing is the only reason I could get them is I had money left over from prepaying for gas on Thursday and I never carry money on me.

Stomach was living on thoughts and prayers last night since I hadn't had a chance to stop at 7-11 for one of their basic subs.

Also doesn't help I'm at that spot only once a week.

[opaque halo]

I've whipped up a bunch of breakfast burritos that have similar ingredients and freeze them individually and just toss 'em in the fridge to thaw then a few minutes in the airfryer

still occasionally cave in for a Taco Bell breakfast though

[amber sparrow]

Burger king.has a pretty bangin breakfast burrito

[opaque halo]

If I'm near our Burger King, I'm going down the road 2 blocks and hitting Hardees for sausage gravy and biscuits 🙂

[silver fable]

No Hardee's here, only Carl's Jr.

[amber sparrow]

It's like checkers vs rallys

Same.shit

[opaque halo]

yup... For me Carl's Jr. just seems like it tastes better

[amber sparrow]

Dang this bloody Mary mix is thiccccccc

[opaque halo]

What'd you do.. make it with tomato paste?

[karmic tiger]

bloody mary with ketchup

[opaque halo]

Chewy Bloody Mary... made with Salsa

[terse helm]

amazon istg

wtf is a WRALTH Stealth cooler

[sudden adder]

Its one of those things called a typo

[terse helm]

that's not a typo

that is a lack of attention

btw the category it's in

[karmic tiger]

watering a tomato plant with vodka for bloody-mary on the plant

[terse helm]

the reason I know it's not just a simple typo btw is that they have two new products

and it happened to both

this reeks of some AI shit being involved

btw this thing is barely cheaper than a 5700x3d so no idea why you'd even want it

[sudden adder]

So a copy pasta typo. Not the most surprising thing ive seen

[terse helm]

I don't buy for a second that it's a typo

it's too coincidental between mistaking an I (captal i) for a (lowercase) L

[prisma dove]

so, do they mean "WRAITH Stealth Cooler" or "WEALTH Stealth Cooler"?
Personally I like Wealth Stealth.

[terse helm]

it's meant to be Wraith yes

[prisma dove]

Wealth Stealth sounds cooler

[terse helm]

true

[sudden adder]

I caught the sarcasm 🙂

[prisma dove]

or is it too early for beer?

[amber sparrow]

NEVER TOO EARLY

[prisma dove]

6:30 am here, but I have amaretto in my coffee

[opaque halo]

No such thing on a Saturday

[terse helm]

they got it right on the (older) 5600X

[prisma dove]

Not all caps

[sudden adder]

I gotta get a little Ghost in me here in a few

[prisma dove]

disgruntled employee poking the bear with some typos

[terse helm]

I assume it's an OCR fuckup

somewhere in the chain

[prisma dove]

postal readers do that all the time here.

can't read hand-written names and numbers correctly, but humans can't print legibly either

hmmm, coffee with amaretto ☕

[terse helm]

postal OCR is almost magic

what it can extract from how terribly some people write

it helps that it has deep knowledge of what could be there (i.e., an address)

[prisma dove]

true. But then I blame the whomever gave two streets with similar names (same number of letters, slightly different order, only one letter difference) within three blocks of each other, and gave three houses the same house numbers.

[terse helm]

oh yeah that's just setting it up for failure

[prisma dove]

I've received "the other house" owner's tax returns from his cpa. Imagine what an unscrupulous person could have done with that information.

I have a few scruples, not sure what to do with them.

[terse helm]

oh same

people keep using my gmail address

I've gotten some wild information

[prisma dove]

ditto, there are three people with my name, besides me, in California, and one in Brazil. Those emails from Brazil are the most fun. A lot of work-related stuff.

similar enough emails, people don't pay attention when entering email addresses and auto-correct takes over.

[terse helm]

I had to argue once with someoen who thought their address was f.last@gmail when mine is flast@gmail

that gmail ignores periods and in fact f.last, f.l.a.s.t and flast were all mine

[sudden adder]

Reminds me of the WillSmith twitter/x account that isnt Will Smith the actor but is Will Smith of PCGamer, formerly at GiantBomb i believe as well

[prisma dove]

that dot. I have one in mine, but never had issues until recently

[sudden adder]

Yet people @ it without realizing that its some bearded white guy, lol

[prisma dove]

There's a Will Smith on the LA Dodgers baseball team, not either one of those other Will Smith's.

[karmic tiger]

yup can have a fair amount of fun with this including having like a dozen logins to smth with the same adress

[marsh helm]

It's a generic one

From temu

[amber sparrow]

Halloweeny movie marathon spread

[silver fable]

I thought that was scrambled eggs at first and was so confused.

[tawdry orbit]

The classic movie-theater scrambled eggs

[prisma dove]

with bacon

[silver fable]

And why only one Kinder egg?

[sick cedar]

I ate the rest

[silver fable]

These aren't the good ones, but the ones that comply with US regulations.

[sick cedar]

heh

[livid plover]

PEZ!

[karmic tiger]

oh god pez

[shrewd spire]

did youtube just made their player round?

[karmic tiger]

ooooh rounded edges

didn't see those at first and was vert confused

huh yee they did

just didn't see it cause I'm in cinema mode 24/7

[drowsy mason]

It's been that way for a few months I think. On the website anyway.

[amber sparrow]

3rd movie of the evening

[marsh helm]

nice setup

[carmine ibex]

GreenSuigi got 120 star WR

[carmine ibex]

the second half of the run was insane
I giggled at chat exploding around 1:25:00
||FOUR GOLDS||
sound warning at end if you watch.. should be obvious
classic Suigi

[marsh helm]

they did make some samples for meteor lake

also some ppl are seeing resgression in other tasks

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/ryzen-7-9800x3d-trails-core-i9-14900k-in-leaked-pugetbench-benchmarks-upcoming-zen-5-3d-v-cache-chip-shows-good-performance-uplift-over-ryzen-9000 those are some juicy numbers if true

they are inline with other leaks that have came out

[jaunty fulcrum]

is Optane even supported these days?

[marsh helm]

sure

its highly used in some servers because it was on fire sale

and they sold it to another company

i think amd should of just said hey 9800x3d drops in nov from the start

but i guess they didnt know how dead the intel release would be

[raw falcon]

Bought this from DKOldies a while back. No regrets.

[formal sable]

@exotic prism ?

[amber sparrow]

[formal sable]

[left heart]

some are, some aren't https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000024320/memory-and-storage.html

[unique spruce]

this seems like a decent place to ask, does anybody know of a way i could record my full game session, and use a keybind to put "bookmarks" in the recording (as an alternative to capturing game clips). i need more generic footage than just my good clips but i feel like running OBS and MEDAL at the same time is a bad idea

[full fern]

OBS 31 has chapter markers, though there are some editors that don't seupport it

[unique spruce]

that's fine, i can just write down the timestamps before i edit the footage

[full fern]

Oh, wait, I was wrong. They're in 30.2 and up

[unique spruce]

ohhh these chpters are done in post

i was looking for something that could create something similar in real time

[full fern]

The markers are created while you're recording in OSB by using a hotkey. Then they show in the file in video editors

In real time

[unique spruce]

hm. maybe i missed something then

[karmic tiger]

what the absolute fuck is wrong with js that the answer to "how do I calculate the sum of an array" includes a "you probably shouldn't be using eval()"

[terse helm]

?

what the fuck is wrong with anyone that thinks the answer to that involved eval in any way?

[karmic tiger]

eval([1,2,3].join('+')

honestly the fact the cleaner and better answer seems to be [1, 2, 3, 4].reduce((a, b) => a + b, 0) is fucking clownery

[terse helm]

is it though

that's what reduce functions are for

[karmic tiger]

this is what defining a sum method in your array prototype or in your math module is for

[terse helm]

ah you want your hands held

nothing stopping you from adding it btw

[karmic tiger]

ah yes a sum function is handholding

[terse helm]

[Function (anonymous)]
> [1,2,3].sumAllElements();
6```

well idk you seem to be criticising the language for not providing the exact function you need

notwithstanding that providing such a function isn't really something the language need do

it's a convenience function for you

not a necessity

[livid plover]

and is likely to explode in your face if you feed it non-integer containing arrays likely, especially even more given how funny JS gets around mixed types

[karmic tiger]

no shit

with that logic anything other than assembly is getting your hand held

which yeah, it is

but this is 2024, we are getting used to a certain level of convenience shit in programming language

[karmic tiger]

" is likely to explode in your face" is pretty much a defining feature of js at this point lmfao

[terse helm]

well yeah but you seem to want convenience specific to your use

[livid plover]

yeah pretty much

[karmic tiger]

I am indeed the only person to have ever thought "huh I wish I could sum all the elements of this array"

[terse helm]

surely you are not

[karmic tiger]

is your argument right now really that an array sum is not something quite very common in the baseline of most language?

[terse helm]

but such a simple function shouldn't be cluttering the runtime

idk I feel like the people that spec javascript have probably considered this

[karmic tiger]

pictured : behaviour that the people that spec javascript consider normal

[livid plover]

and you want to trust those people to sum an array?

[terse helm]

yeah those people have to consider 25+ years of baggage

probably more

javascript is extremely widely-used

changing behaviour like that would probably break more than a few things

yes that's bad

[karmic tiger]

doesn't make it any less of a language for clowns

[civic quarry]

can we all just agree that js sucks

[terse helm]

that's why we have typescript now

imo instead of spending your energy criticising the bad parts of javascript (which we all know exist, no one denies it) you should spend it using the good parts

a lot of time and energy is spent trying to fix those bad bits

[karmic tiger]

alternatively, I'm allowed to vent a bit on shit that's quite absurd

[sick cedar]

but thats not as fun and cathartic :p

[terse helm]

but javascript's rather extreme reach makes progress not super fast

[karmic tiger]

like 90% of people do when bringing up this clownfest of a language

[amber sparrow]

#ImAMasochist

[sick cedar]

lol

it does look yummy tho

[scarlet kernel]

IKR? It's a passion tea with strawberry base and a pump of vanilla

then my bestie added edible red glitter

[sick cedar]

how are you? 🙂

[full fern]

Wow, this GIF only has like 8 colors LOL

[terse helm]

yeah that man does not look healthy

[amber sparrow]

Jared Keeso is THE MAN

[sterile flower]

YOOOO I've got a purple one, gotta get an adapter so I can play PC games with it lol

[scarlet kernel]

Well, mom is in the hospital and my insurance refused to cover one of my meds but otherwise I'm peachy

[wary holly]

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/57456188/

[karmic tiger]

yeah, the fucking nans

[full fern]

🍺 It's not too early for a beer on the west coast is it?

[karmic tiger]

so romancing saga has a villain they chose to call "Kzinssie".
Which is nice.
Until you realise all the english VAs pretty much say it the same as "Kaczynski" and now you're fighting the unabomber in your jrpg

[full fern]

LOL

[marsh helm]

https://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report/majors-that-pay-you-back/bachelors in case someone here is looking into college

good resource for finding what actually pays

Colleges love to make degrees sound good but in reality don't have many job prospects

[void gale]

!twitch

[wise bay]

A stream key is a unique string that is used to identify your account to a streaming service. You can usually find it in your profile settings for the service you're looking to stream to. Make sure not to share it with anyone! Twitch's stream key can be found in your dashboard, here: https://dashboard.twitch.tv/settings/stream

[void gale]

!twitch beta

[wise bay]

A stream key is a unique string that is used to identify your account to a streaming service. You can usually find it in your profile settings for the service you're looking to stream to. Make sure not to share it with anyone! Twitch's stream key can be found in your dashboard, here: https://dashboard.twitch.tv/settings/stream

[wise bay]

For more information on the Twitch Enhanced Broadcasting beta, please check out Twitch's help article or the Discord server.

[karmic tiger]

there ain't no two-words commands, commands only see the first word

[void gale]

ok do u know twitch enhanced beta discord server link ?

[karmic tiger]

yeah I just linked you the actual correct command

[terse helm]

it's also in the email they sent you when they added you to the beta

[void gale]

!beta

[wise bay]

OBS Studio 31.0 Beta is now out! More details on how to help test can be found here:

https://obsproject.com/forum/threads/obs-studio-31-0-beta.180864/

[void gale]

first party youtube chat interesting

[karmic tiger]

you're still looking for the TEB discord link, or?

[void gale]

yes i am still looking for TEB discord link .

[karmic tiger]

as I said, I linked the correct command to you

[void gale]

omg i am such a dumb person . actually blind
was just busy on having dinner and watching text on 2 monitors feels bit uncomfortable . I placed 2 monitors so odly

[karmic tiger]

dw

[smoky rapids]

Need some help with some "fun" CSS tweaking.

I know where I want to change something via dev console but copying said info to my CSS "replacer" isn't as easy as other instances are.

For context I want to remove the background on this page (And the created room which shares the same one) https://codenames.game/room/create

This is what I'm wanting to replace which I contextually understand replacing the image along with using !important but that's about it
<div style="z-index:-1;background-image:url(https://cdn2.codenames.game/cno/2023-12-19/img/bg-raster.svg);mix-blend-mode:overlay" class="jsx-9d9184d02faa1e7 bg-cover absolute inset-0"></div>

[wary holly]

@smoky rapids

.jsx-9d9184d02faa1e7{background:unset!important;}

The selector .jsx-9d9184d02faa1e7 seems obfuscated and might be different across pages, either for technical reasons or to break ad blockers, you may have to read what comes after class= on the other page.

[smoky rapids]

That does appear to be the case as this is what popped up on the "refresh" of creation

And understandably randomizes on different room names >.<

[wary holly]

@smoky rapids Is this for one page or for multiple pages?

[smoky rapids]

Technically https://codenames.game/room/* with the wildcard being a random choice of 3 words of varying length (something-some-thing)

[terse helm]

it's not obfuscated, it's probably just scoped

[wary holly]

@smoky rapids Can you be lazy and do *{background:unset!important;}?

Or, less broadly, *{background-image:unset!important;}

[terse helm]

also, why not just div#view?

oh different one nvm

[smoky rapids]

Well it works but now all the elements that you need to click go

[wary holly]

@smoky rapids #__next > .centered-layout > div {background-image:unset!important;} And this?

[smoky rapids]

That at least made the background black and managable on that page but nothing different on the room one.

[wary holly]

@smoky rapids Try to follow the chain of element types and classes and come up with a less ambiguous selector. Might want to start at #__next if that's still an element on those other pages.

Here body > div#__next > main > div would be a valid selector. Though I forgot if I should use > or < here.

[terse helm]

you want the orange stuff to be gone right?

document.querySelector("#view > div.jsx-3706528595.jsx-306310148.absolute.inset-0").style.background = "none";

[smoky rapids]

I was actually wanting to replace it with the image shown above

[terse helm]

same thing just put something else instead of none

[smoky rapids]

That actually won't work as the number values change on refresh

[terse helm]

oh great

document.querySelector("#view > div.absolute.inset-0").style.background = "none";?

there's also a bg-gradient-radial-[] class but the brackets fuck up the selector

ah

document.querySelector("#view > div.absolute.inset-0.bg-gradient-radial-\\[\\]");​

[amber sparrow]

LETS GO BOLTS

Can't beat free tix, and getting to go to a game with the kiddo

[full fern]

Have fun! (I know you will cuz it's hockey haha)

[late surge]

gotta love windows failing to decode a jpeg when its embedded inside a audio file as a song cover
( left is Media Player, no not Windows Media Player, just Media Player, right is MPV )

[terse helm]

huh

[void gale]

any know site where can add long text in the link and can share anywhere?

Discord allows little info text only so i want to use any site

[copper notch]

any pastebin

[vital siren]

I'm going to stop ordering from Amazon at this rate and only order locally, even if there's a significant price difference.

There's a mess up once again, I ordered a Superlight 2 mouse, box was correct, then there's a different mouse inside... it doesn't even work properly, it's defective. 😄

[jaunty fulcrum]

Likely a return

[vital siren]

Although that sounds more like a Logitech issue than Amazon.

[vital siren]

Could be I guess, and they didn't check.

Or well actually they did check but they got fooled - it's a Superlight 1 instead of Superlight 2 in there 😄

Probably weight is similar, too - so if they checked the weight it probably wasn't enough.

I guess it's a nice scam to return an older version of the product because the people checking could easily be fooled :/

[civic quarry]

[jaunty fulcrum]

or aren't paid enough to care

[sudden adder]

“Media player” is still Windows Media Player in the end. The playback controls at the bottom give it away

[grizzled basin]

we eating good.

[wary holly]

@late surge It's probably a yuv444 jpeg, press i in mpv to find out.

[smoky rapids]

Was watching someone who did a any% playthrough and JFC that section was lit AF.

Both parts where it was referenced/used.

[amber sparrow]

Dude. So good and super creepy

[jagged wolf]

this is offtopic right?

[void gale]

does discord has a feature where i can custom block words on any server?

[terse helm]

nope

tbh user-side blocking on discord is kinda dumb anyway

get this shit out of here

[jagged wolf]

yeah

[void gale]

ok

[jagged wolf]

hello users

[round sierra]

hey guys so im having an issue with my webcam

so basically

[jagged wolf]

in obs? or your actual camera?

oh

[round sierra]

i dont know tbh cuz in obs in tab the camera works perfectly but when i tab off to record a game it doesnt record well and it does this glitchy thing

its like pixely and what not and when i tab back into obs it does this delay thing and i think the delay is that it starts recording as soon as i tab back in\

[jagged wolf]

oh

sorry i cant help you with that but others can!

[round sierra]

totally fine but do u know anybody?

[jagged wolf]

no :((

[round sierra]

its ok hopefully someone who does sees my message

[jagged wolf]

you can put your message in windows support

[round sierra]

oh thx bro

[wise bay]

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

[copper notch]

Yeah, that is kind of annoying. However I'd say 95% of the time the messages only occur for a short period of time ranging from a few minutes to a day. Typically the type of people I block tend to be the type of people that get banned or leave servers on their own right before long. Maybe I have good mod genes or something LOL

[terse helm]

well, in that case it's some sort of stupid sticky bot

because discord doesn't have native sticky functionality (thank goodness), people emulate it instead by having a bot constantly delete and re-post the message instead so it's always at the bottom

oh in fact it's literally called StickyBot

[feral garnet]

Found the OBS logo but the cats got it.

[civic quarry]

watching joker 2 right now, i don't get all the hate

[amber sparrow]

Haven't watched it yet. I've tried to avoid any reviews because so many bad ones apparently

Sometimes my wife loves me. Adult snack box has been replenished since most of the snack purchases are for the crotch goblins

[livid plover]

It available for streaming now?

[opaque halo]

Is she evil enough to mix skittles with the M&Ms?

[karmic tiger]

the skem&ms

[amber sparrow]

Nah. She knows me better than that(but not well enough apparently to fully leave skittles out)

Skittles arr the first thing I steal from kiddos Halloween bags, then milky way dark

[opaque halo]

She seems to have the proper sweet and sour percentages

[civic quarry]

yes came out on digital today

[livid plover]

Oh neat. Movie date friday it is

[civic quarry]

Everything was awesome

[amber sparrow]

Dang that one has an aquarium?

Did you do the ninjago ride?

La-loyd is the best

[civic quarry]

Hell yeah we did

[amber sparrow]

NICE! I love that ride

[jagged wolf]

wow solo leveling anime is very interesting also i know the manhwa

[late surge]

just got home, yup, it is.

[scarlet kernel]

It's a great anime. I'm excited for the second season.

[wary holly]

Be excited for the current season, not for something that doesn't exist yet (and might never exist).

[jaunty fulcrum]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/29/24282821/microsoft-windows-recall-feature-optional-uninstall

[raw falcon]

Bought this from SketchItOutStudio on etsy

[half gale]

dead chat

[tall vapor]

Yes, very dead indeed. There's nothing that can be done, I'm afraid

[half gale]

wth

[silver fable]

Yup, very clearly unalive.

[tall vapor]

Indeed!

[livid plover]

Termibal 💀

[jagged wolf]

yeah im too

can i talk about something very serious?

[half gale]

daed

dead

[civic quarry]

Day 2

[jagged wolf]

cool

[jagged wolf]

wdym dead?

[marsh helm]

woo

looks like a good day to be inside

[terse helm]

I was gonna say

[civic quarry]

A bit colder than yesterday but will get better in a few hours

[marsh helm]

if its washigton we dont even have weather reports

we just assume its going to be wet

[civic quarry]

Weather report states a dry weather at least here

[marsh helm]

its often 15% chance of rain all week long

[terse helm]

I liked this about living in Singapore back when I was a kid

there were weather reports but every day it was exactly the same

[marsh helm]

yeah it has rainforests too

[civic quarry]

Chance of rain is 0% all day long

[terse helm]

just two variations, one for the wet and one for the dry season

[marsh helm]

[terse helm]

I wonder how much different morning and afternoon showers are from eachother that they need a separate category

[marsh helm]

well you see

[terse helm]

and from regular showers

[marsh helm]

one messes up traffic more

we had a 50 car pileup last week

[terse helm]

[marsh helm]

because ppl were going waaay too damn fast

and not keeping enough distance

so when the traffic suddenly stopped they all hit one another

ppl here cant drive when its wet at all

ive seen cars just stop in the middle of the highway

[terse helm]

what, stopping is safe

what could go wrong

[marsh helm]

i was able to open a bank account

over zoom

do i dont have to travel to the bank

one upside to covid

[jagged wolf]

ok

[silver fable]

Is this the "very serious" thing you wanted to talk about?

[placid furnace]

hey guys

[sudden adder]

o/

[civic quarry]

o7

[jagged wolf]

no

its of my dad

welp here we go

so first my dad got to romania

so he can do something that i dont know

my mom now know that he got in debt and gambled the money away

like all the money

so um

now he is not my dad anymore

he did this 13 times or more

[wise bay]

Self-advertisement or advertisement for others is not allowed on this server unless it's directly relevant to a discussion or question. Please read the rules in the #rules channel.

[odd jetty]

How do I make stream overlays Show up outside of OBS So I can see them well in playing, or whatever I'm doing on stream

[prisma dove]

Watch the stream on another device. Connect a second monitor so you can see OBS there.

[stone flare]

hi everyone, i don't use obs often i was wondering how to record in game audio for my replay buffer

cuz it records my mic and everything surrounding it but not the game audio

[wise bay]

If you need help or have questions about OBS, check out our #support-portal first!

[karmic tiger]

I have been made aware of something absolutely horrendous in discord.
Open discord on desktop and mouse over the emoji below

👃

[sudden adder]

its tossing feet

[karmic tiger]

it's fkin tossing feet

[terse helm]

the fuck

👁️

🦶

hm

only nose I guess

[full fern]

I don't see anything. Weird.

[terse helm]

have to update first

[full fern]

Oh, let me try

It updated now, but there's no feet. Dang. LOL

[opaque halo]

Works on PC. Might not work on mobile

[karmic tiger]

yee only on desktop

[terse helm]

I thought this was implied by "hover"

since that is an action that is not possible on mobile

[amber sparrow]

Hover deez

[karmic tiger]

apparently it's cause of halloween theme because apparently "trick or treat, smell my feet" is a fucking nursery rhyme in english or some shit

[terse helm]

oh

news to me

[karmic tiger]

yeah same

[amber sparrow]

Yes

Very popular one

Trick or treat, smell my feet, give me something good to eat

[terse helm]

eat deez

[opaque halo]

If you don't
I don't care
I will shave off
All your hair

and/or

if you don’t
I don’t care
I’ll burn your underwear!

one other one

Trick or treat, smell my feet.
Give me something good to eat.
If you don't, I won't be sad.
I'll just make you wish you had!

[sterile flower]

Yeah it is

Can confirm

[amber sparrow]

[terse helm]

thonk deez

[amber sparrow]

Don't threaten me with a good time

[amber sparrow]

IYKYK

[vernal current]

guys i woke up and my desktop moved to my 2nd monitor

i have no idea how this happened and it wont let me switch back to my original monitor even though it detetcs it

i can move windows to the other monitor, but i cant seem to move the desktop

if i click duplicate these displays, then my desktop appears on both monitors, but if i click on extend (which was what i used for years) it will only show on the other monitor

ok i just refreshed and it fixed it wtf

[wise bay]

Self-advertisement or advertisement for others is not allowed on this server unless it's directly relevant to a discussion or question. Please read the rules in the #rules channel.

[raw falcon]

Not my art

I’m not trying to advertise for someone else

Well fine then

I’ll keep the cool art I found to myself

[regal eagle]

Happy Halloween 🎃👻

[marsh helm]

ahhh

[oak frigate]

Happy Halloween

Happy Halloween 🎃👻

[fluid arch]

hello chat

[tall vapor]

[civic quarry]

[amber sparrow]

Where's my friend @heady willow been lately 👀

Sorry for ping. Just hope you are doing good!

[heady willow]

what is this out of a sudden? hi

[amber sparrow]

Just dawned on me I hadn't seen you active in a while!

[heady willow]

Aww thanks for keeping me in your thoughts! I've been good, just been focusing on other stuff more and haven't had the need to discuss encoding related stuff in a long time so I just lurk every now and then

Hope you and your family are doing well also!

[limber osprey]

https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/1852074396594196570

[wise bay]

Self-advertisement or advertisement for others is not allowed on this server unless it's directly relevant to a discussion or question. Please read the rules in the #rules channel.

[limber osprey]

That's not an ad D:

It's also offtopic, weird I can't share game news here

[prisma dove]

perhaps with contex, a random post won't seem so random

[limber osprey]

What's cortex

Isn't that the nvidia thing

[amber sparrow]

Context 😉

[limber osprey]

Just news on the let it die gmae

[amber sparrow]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/context

[limber osprey]

also whydo I have a weird name

[amber sparrow]

Usually if your actual name is too hard to type or ping mods will add a server nickname 😉

Per #rules

[limber osprey]

how, It's just Heather

[amber sparrow]

This says otherwise

[limber osprey]

Well that's the account name thing

HUH

[shadow glen]

its like more binery code to me

[limber osprey]

I @ people by the name not by account name

But okay

[terse helm]

this server doesn't let you set a per-server nickname

so this is your discord displayname

[rugged bluff]

Happy Halloween fellas

[amber sparrow]

What about the ladies?

[opaque halo]

and non binaries

[prisma dove]

and the fluffies and furries

[sterile flower]

And everything in between

[jagged wolf]

HAPPY HALLOWEEN :)))) 🎃👻

[carmine ibex]

https://us-store.msi.com/Sale/LAST-CHANCE-CLEARANCE/M482-NVMe-M2-2TB-Bulk?limit=60 is dramless so may not be ideal as an OS drive but a pretty sick gaming drive (which doesn't really need dram caching)
don't have to pay tax in some states as well

[odd jetty]

I swear If OBS crashes one more time 5mu6tnujtfyfmutynhdtyxtutxm rh ndjyr tfgh jyxf hgn

[still turret]

Are you getting an "oops! obs has crashed" message, or do you mean something else?

[amber sparrow]

Colin Farrel legit CRUSHING his performance in penguin

[sweet anchor]

[marsh helm]

man what amd is doing with the 9800x3d is kinda wild

putting the cache under the cpu die is wild

https://fixupx.com/aschilling/status/1851975685071421659

[carmine ibex]

they are claiming an 8% uplift over the 7800X3D
guess they fixed their percentages this time
the 12% uplift figure before was crazy... I mean, the X3D has frequency boost so 8% could very well be true
3% from architecture, 5% from frequency boost

[marsh helm]

you can overclock it to get a little more

amd said 200 mhz

in many of the intensive games it has a pretty large lead

if you have the 7800x3d its probably not worth upgrading UNLESS you use that chip for heavy multicore workloads

it should be around the same performance as a normal 9700x chip

[carmine ibex]

yeah, base clock is the biggest increase

[marsh helm]

500mhz yeah

in the DIY segment i feel amd will dominate for a long time

the 9800x3d is going to be out of stock for awhile i feel

intel was saying this was their zen moment

it does cut energy usage by a lot but its often still much higher than last gen amd

[carmine ibex]

wat

[marsh helm]

censorship!! in my waifu ai app

how could they

[carmine ibex]

meh, it's too annoying to use
was trying to find an alternative to Flowframes since they no longer update it
they also don't even let you do more than 2x unless you get the Patreon version! how am I even supposed to test!

I wonder if MacType isn't playing well with it or something

[marsh helm]

oh god

applespeak will be the new leetspeak

[silver fable]

Wonder how much of an upgrade the 9800x3d would be over my 5950x...

[marsh helm]

in games?

[silver fable]

Yup

[marsh helm]

onesec i have a CHART

the min lows is where you will see its age

it will also have more framtime pacing issues

[carmine ibex]

meanwhile, I still have a 3900x

[marsh helm]

thats off teh chart

unless you are playing 1440 or 4k

[carmine ibex]

should have bought the 7950X3D for $450

[marsh helm]

lets see what the 9950x3d gets us

might be worth waiting

[carmine ibex]

true, I don't care too much about the price
I hope it isn't more than $750 but.. I don't have high hopes it isn't gonna be $800

[marsh helm]

it should be a very very good productivity cpus

450 for a 7950x3d is wild tho

you can just disable one ccd and it would crush even a 7800x3d

[carmine ibex]

Yeah, it was.. I should of grabbed it

[marsh helm]

the 7800x3d is now stuck at $450

[silver fable]

I don't see the 9800x3d on there... Am I blind?

[jaunty fulcrum]

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/31/24284572/microsoft-recall-delay-december-windows-insider-testing

[civic quarry]

Is it even revealed/released already?

[silver fable]

I do see the 7800x3d on there, and the 9800x3d is faster, so I should assume a 33% uplift on my current framerate, ish.

[silver fable]

Scroll up a bit, Otter threw in some charts of it, vs the newest gen Intel chips.

[civic quarry]

Hmmm, I might wait with upgrading my system then and build a new one from scratch next summer

[carmine ibex]

yeah, Intel chips have major issues

they lost to their 12th gen chips in some games... by a considerable amount

[civic quarry]

I will definitely stay on AMD CPU. But I'm not quite sure, if I will stay on Nvidia GPU

[marsh helm]

9800x3d isnt out yet

its out nov 7

https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/31/24284860/intel-gaudi-wont-meet-500-million-goal

“We will not achieve our target of $500 million in revenue for Gaudi in 2024,” CEO Pat Gelsinger just said on the company’s Q3 2024 earnings call today.

[jaunty fulcrum]

Gaud that's a bad name.

[marsh helm]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/inside-intel-ceo-pat-gelsinger-fumbled-revival-an-american-icon-2024-10-29/

some ppl arnt happy

while apples arm chips are crushing intels

and in 2026 nvidas will pretty much make buying intel cpus in ai server meaningless

as they are making their own all in one custom options

right now a lot of ai server use intel server chips to move the data around

[civic quarry]

Gaudi is actually an Austrian term for "fun"

[marsh helm]

reminder that intel is also cutting R&D spending by around 20%

and firing 15000 ppl

they also closed down the german foundry construction

and lay off 1300 employees in oregon

after oregon gave them 400milion+ to expand and hire ppl

umm is this good?

https://www.stacksocial.com/sales/microsoft-visual-studio-professional-2022-the-2024-premium-learn-to-code-certification-bundle-4

[copper notch]

Will be interesting to see if it is dual-X3D or not.

[marsh helm]

if they do it

but what they really just need is the ability to force gaming apps to use just the single CCD

however they really should just make it so ppl who just want the very best can just shut up

heres the best chip ever made

it costs $800

[copper notch]

I want a 16-core CPU for various use cases, but I also use it for gaming. I'm willing to accept a slight performance degradation of some apps due to X3D and it is far less than in previous generations, so that makes X3D more attractive. But I'm not willing to accept any software solution that disables 8 cores when a game is running to force the game onto the other 8 cores. I run 20 apps at a time. I fire up a game I don't want the game and all 20 apps dropped onto 8 cores, or want my apps suspended while a game is running or have to jump through hoops to administer the CPU to game, then switch it back after the game is over, etc.

[marsh helm]

maybe a 9999x3d

[copper notch]

I want to game and have the game run on 8 cores, while x264 is encoding video across as many threads as it wants on 16 cores

or while Blender is going nuts

or 4 virtual machines

[marsh helm]

yeah same for streaming

that would be amazing

unreal engine chugs when you are running it and streaming on the same pc

[copper notch]

So 16 core with one X3D chiplet, and you have to use Xbox game bar or core parking in the BIOS or process lasso before starting every game is a non-starter.

But it seems they recommend that even for the non-X3D chips now too.

[marsh helm]

windows is killing

x86

its very clear to see that

and they are making it run worse and be more risky with this ai garbo

[copper notch]

Which is why what I really want is for them to move to 16-core chiplets ASAP, but not the 4c/5c/6c half-L3 variants, but a new 16-core full cache variant.

[marsh helm]

thats what they are doing on server

[copper notch]

And no reason they shouldn't be able to do that on the next node drop

I mean they have a planned 32-core die for Zen 6 or 7 already, so if they can do that surely they can do single die 16-core 64MB L3, and even unify the cache.

[marsh helm]

the leaks say that the 9800x3d is much faster in multicore vs the 9700x

[copper notch]

But it might not make business sense on AM5

[marsh helm]

unify the cache is what they plan to do on server

no clue about amd because they dont have leaks

till the month before they do shit

Lisa is scary

[copper notch]

Well, the chiplets are shared between server and consumer so when they do it it is likely for the entire lineup

[marsh helm]

pat isnt

[copper notch]

<insert GIF of Lisa Su with lasers coming out of her eyes>

[marsh helm]

pat is too busying freezing pays and cutting bonus

but not his bonus

and firing 15000 ppl

[copper notch]

I speculated that if Intel had something that beat AMD in MT in the Zen 6 timeframe, AMD would go ahead and release a 24 and/or 32 core Zen 6 with 8+16 or 16+16 variants based on Zen 6c, but that they probably wont if there is no competition because they wouldn't perform quite as good due to memory bottlenecks.

[marsh helm]

cudimm dosnt seem to work well on amd

nobody is validating it

i think its WAAAY too early

[copper notch]

So lack of quad channel memory support plus reduced L3 cache on that 16 core chiplet would be good but less than stellar to say the least.

So I think they'll only introduce it as a competitive measure if they think they need to. They almost certainly have prototypes as it is compatible with the IOD

[marsh helm]

yeah amd always does prototypes in their skunkworks

those guys do everything

[copper notch]

I think Zen 7 will probably be on AM6 and have quad-channel and 16-core full L3 based chiplets. Pure speculation, no leaks.

[tall vapor]

dual X3D would make sense to do now, seeing as it being x3d doesn't have the frequency tradeoff no more

[marsh helm]

i think it has to match intels offerings

but cudimm has soo little benefit right now

next year they will have zen 6

[copper notch]

Zen came out in what, 2016, so AM4 also? And AM5 came out in 2022 with Zen 4 6 years later, so 2028 would be another 6 years, perfect timing for AM6, and about the time we can expect Zen 7.

[marsh helm]

zen 6 is a brand new design

so adding support for quad and cudimms makes sense then

[tall vapor]

one of the main issues with zen5 rn is the 512b bus on CCD, but conn to IOD is still limited to 256

that's where we see the latency coming from I think

[marsh helm]

yeah its ancient

its cheap tho

it makes sense not to change it till they have to

server is where the money is

[copper notch]

But if Zen 6 is on AM5 there is no support for quad channel memory. Having AM5 supported for 2027+ as they say, would put it on rough par with the lifespan of AM4 in years, but with only 2 generations would be seen as bad, as AM4 had support for 4 generations.

[marsh helm]

i have a feeling that amd will just do xt varients

[copper notch]

So I think AMD is likely to release Zen 6 on AM5 not AM6, and I double think that if Zen 6 comes out next year as some people speculate. Personally I think Zen 6 will come out in 2026 however.

[marsh helm]

to extend the support

[tall vapor]

oh am4 is still "supported"

[copper notch]

Well that will happen either way as they need something to do with Epyc defects

[marsh helm]

support

dosnt not mean more generations on am5

support means they will keep making chips for it

like the 5700xt

and the 5700x3d

amd wouldnt say this unless they had plans to move away from am5

[copper notch]

right, that's a given. But how many generations of support is what everyone cares about. Right now it is 2, which is practically 1. So they need to release at least one more generation on AM5 so people do not end up feeling slighted.

I think they will likely do that as long as Intel remains a sleeper.

[marsh helm]

also why is zen 6 called Ryzen Next

[tall vapor]

yah something still being supported doesn't mean that it gets new shiny. Your graphics card that is still supported doesn't just end up with hwrt support either if it didn't start out with that, but it's supported still nonetheless

[marsh helm]

that sounds like a new system

they refuse to even call it by its name

all we know is it isnt ryzen 10000

[tall vapor]

Ryzen AI 3xx

you're welcome

[marsh helm]

cookie why

[copper notch]

Well, people of course call future products by their leaked and/or tentative and/or predicted names. But when it is multiple year scale away we can't know for sure what marketing departments will call final products.

[marsh helm]

why you got to remind me of the ryzen ai 300 MAX pro

[copper notch]

Zen 6 or 7 is just as likely to be called "Ryzen MegaAI Extreme™

or even "RAIzen"

[marsh helm]

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-ai-300-max-pro-strix-halo-apu-render-leaked-up-to-16-zen5-cores-and-40-rdna3-5-compute-units

thats the big

daddy

the 40cu

[tall vapor]

let's be honest here tho. on mobile it already is ryzen ai on the amd side and core ultra on the intel side. Now core ultra is on desktop too, so it'd make sense for ryzen ai to extend to desktop too in terms of branding

[marsh helm]

workstation mobile apu

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-panther-lake-to-launch-in-second-half-of-2025-no-more-memory-on-package-in-future-products nooo really?!?!

ive been saying this for years

[copper notch]

One problem is that the desktop chips do not have AI acceleration integrated into them, nor any really good rational reason to have it integrated into them, so if they call desktop Ryzen "Ryzen AI" in the future or anything with the AI in the name, without tensor cores, it is kind of misleading at best.

and kinda hoaky

[marsh helm]

wait lunar lake was a ONE OFF

wtf

[tall vapor]

they sure can slap a smol npu in there when they make a new IOD, soo

[copper notch]

And I wont consider AVX512 support no matter how good they continue to improve it to be good enough "AI support" to call it "AI" 🙂

[marsh helm]

ah so this is confirming

that intel does plan to do 3d cache for all future cpus

[copper notch]

Oh sure, AMD could put an NPU into the IOD if they wanted to. But I'm saying there is no good business case for it on desktop IMHO, because desktop PCs are paired with discreet GPUs and all discreet GPUs made now have integrated AI acceleration.

[marsh helm]

but they are going 100% off memory

[copper notch]

The reason to build NPU into mobile chips is so that you can use AI on battery with low power draw. You can't do that with a discreet GPU in a laptop.

[marsh helm]

im i reading that right?

[copper notch]

On desktop, battery power doesn't exist

[tall vapor]

basically what they're not doing is doing the same thing that apple is doing with putting the RAM onto the SoC package.

[marsh helm]

according to amd they are better

[tall vapor]

that's what they sayin

[copper notch]

Intel plans to give everyone who buys a CPU a pony, and to cure all diseases and end world hunger too. I'll believe Intel plans to do something when they actually do it and it actually comes out on time, and it actually works and doesn't suck, crash or catch on fire. 🙂

And only then if they are even still a company which has yet to be proven.

[marsh helm]

but thats soo much lower latency no?

O_o thats why amd is doing with that new chip

[tall vapor]

talking about bogstandard RAM. not cache or anything.

[marsh helm]

ahh

soo

let me get this straight

[tall vapor]

hence me saying that intel is saying that they're not going to do what apple is doing.

[marsh helm]

lunar lake was a one off

it didnt make any money because margins bad

they wont have anything to replace it till next year

and now intel arrow lake is badly selling because its not that good

.> 2025 client for intel is going to be awful

[tall vapor]

well ye ofc lunarlake is a one off, it's built with a whole lot of TSMC cause the intel fabs ain't ready yet

[copper notch]

I could see AMD considering putting an NPU in desktop APUs where they are not expected to be paired with a discreet GPU in the end device. I dont see the value or benefit in the standard Ryzen desktop lineup though.

[marsh helm]

amd has npus in all of their G parts already

i think

or they plan to do taht

they share the same parts around so its only a matter of time

[copper notch]

Do they already? It makes sense to have it.

[marsh helm]

ill check its been like a year

oh you know what they havned release 9000 series ones

[copper notch]

It's pretty pointless to spend the extra money to buy an APU with half the L3 cache and an NPU and GPU and then buy a separate GPU

[tall vapor]

"Memory: Lunar Lake features on-package LPDDR5X-8533 RAM available in 16 GB or 32 GB capacities.[21] This on-package memory is a similar approach to Apple with its M series SoCs that integrate unified LPDDR memory onto the package beside the CPU silicon"

[marsh helm]

oh nvm

[copper notch]

so the target customer for those is going to be one that wants an all in one solution, so the NPU makes sense in 2024

[marsh helm]

yes it does

[copper notch]

I wonder what the TOPs is on it

[marsh helm]

Mar 3, 2024 — The Ryzen 5 8600G's XDNA AI engine runs at 1.6 GHz and delivers roughly the same 16 TOPS of INT8 performance as the mobile variants. AMD says ...

[copper notch]

kinda lame

[marsh helm]

The Ryzen 5 8600G’s XDNA AI engine runs at 1.6 GHz and delivers roughly the same 16 TOPS of INT8 performance as the mobile variants. AMD says the higher-end Ryzen 7 87000G's CPU, GPU, and XDNA engines combine to deliver up to 39 TOPS of overall AI inference performance, but the 8600G's peak will be somewhat lower due to the lower CPU and GPU core counts.```

[copper notch]

Next gen variants will likely have much better inferencing capabilities though, their gen over gen uplifts are pretty good.

[marsh helm]

this gen g parts will be more

[copper notch]

haha

[marsh helm]

yeah

[copper notch]

They'll probably be like 3-5x better next gen.

[marsh helm]

this be funny tho

they are looking at their foundries

apple could save a ton of money

[copper notch]

Yeah, heard rumours of Qualcomm too, but it all sounds like AI generated fantasy stories 🙂

[marsh helm]

and it puts TSMC under pressure

so it would be worth it

[tall vapor]

that's just daily business

[marsh helm]

even if they just buy the german factory

[tall vapor]

that's companies putting other companies onto their wishlist, that's all

[marsh helm]

amd makes more money

[tall vapor]

like you adding that set of pencils you maybe wanna acquire at some point but aren't sure whether ya actually do onto ye amazon wishlist, ya know

[marsh helm]

in server vs intel

[tall vapor]

that's what apple&samsung are doing here, nothing more

[marsh helm]

intel couldnt even sell $500 million dollars with of AI

[copper notch]

AMD's currently selling like 95% of the market

[marsh helm]

in germany yes

but also many stores say that arrow lake is a paper launch

[tall vapor]

intel wanted to have a win

for like a week

until 9000x3d drops

[copper notch]

Arrow In The Knee Lake

[copper notch]

HUB's thumbnail made me crack up

[tall vapor]

my newest intel CPU is a, uh, 7200U

[copper notch]

7700HQ here

[marsh helm]

if you look at the sales a lot of ppl were waiting for arrow lake

[tall vapor]

yeah, Kaby being the newest makes sense

[marsh helm]

i didnt have a high bar for it because the CEO

[copper notch]

Got 4 Pentium 4s before that

[marsh helm]

didnt MENTION it

during their huge event in the summer

he said ppl should look foward to panther lake and lunar lake

he never said arrow lake

it was a keynote

[tall vapor]

so the intel cpus that I got are the following: sandy i5m, ivy i5m and kaby i5u

that's it

[marsh helm]

so i was expecting around 5% of the performance of a 14000 but with less power

but then they priced it really high

and all of a sudden went from using intel 20nm to using all TSMC

so its going to have garbage margins and supply

they dont have any way to supply the chips

[tall vapor]

Intel 20A, no?

[marsh helm]

yea 20a

so like intel 5nm?

[tall vapor]

somethin like that, ye

7

[copper notch]

This laptop is the only Intel CPU I ever purchased. I've owned a bunch of them over time either hand-me-downs from people upgrading or dumping hardware at my house, or freebies from my previous career, or a big score from a local board of education giveaway a few years back

[tall vapor]

maybe tsmc6 comparable

somewhere in there, ig

[marsh helm]

yeah

i KEEP TRACK INTEL

i know your bullshit

[tall vapor]

20A never was a thing tho

[marsh helm]

it was

till september

[copper notch]

Hmm.... that's confusing

[marsh helm]

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/intel-announces-cancellation-of-20a-process-node-for-arrow-lake-goes-with-external-nodes-instead-likely-tsmc

so they have no supply for arrow lake

and the margins are horrible

and its the most expensive platform ever

[copper notch]

0.1nm is 1A IIRC, so how is 20A 5nm? 🙂

[marsh helm]

intel math

[copper notch]

Some kind of Intel math? Did they calculate that on a Pentium 90? LOL

[tall vapor]

I mean yeah, the intel CPUs that I got are ones that just so happen to come in the used business stuff that I get for cheap cheap cheap

think the last (and first) intel CPU that I actually bought was ivy xeon e3, had that in me WS till I replaced that with that nommy r7 1700

[terse helm]

nanometer numbers haven't meant anything in years

[marsh helm]

my intel cpu was a 7700hx i think

it was soo BAD

it overheating when idle

i repasted it and nothing

should of gotten an amd

[tall vapor]

no, intel 7000 was pre Ryzen times on the AMD end of things

ye wouldn't've wanted that

[marsh helm]

yes they didnt have much

but now theres no reason not to get amd or apple

[tall vapor]

all the intel that I got is PRE ryzen

[copper notch]

Good thing "Intel has cancelled ... to focus on ..." isn't a drinking game. We'd all have cirrhosis.

[marsh helm]

that apple mini pc is wild

onesec i need to find a quote thats in my head

[tall vapor]

hey look if I could get one of those for 400quid I'd pick it up

[silver fable]

The Ryzen 7 2700U came out in 2017.

Did it not?

[tall vapor]

no, 2018. and that's first gen ryzen mobile

[silver fable]

The Intell 7700HQ was way better, though.

[tall vapor]

there never was a 1000 ryzen mobile

[silver fable]

Oh, TechPowerup gave it an October 2017 release date. 😦

[tall vapor]

oh yeah, nvm

oct 2017 indeed

but yeah, availability of laptops with it was more of a q1 2018 thing

[marsh helm]

this is 2021

[tall vapor]

laptop manufacturers had to remember that amd actually exists, after all

[marsh helm]

so now he is saying that was a bad idea

[silver fable]

Anyways, the 7700HQ was way better, so no, you wouldn't have wanted the AMD of the time.

[marsh helm]

and that tiles and multiple IP is bad

Intel has started simplifying and streamlining parts of its portfolio to unlock efficiencies and great value, and is re-establishing product portfolio leadership with a narrowed focus on fewer projects, with the top priority being to maximize the value of its x86 franchise across the client, edge, and data center .

so he is reversing all the stuff he did for the past 3 years

[tall vapor]

battlemage anyone?

[marsh helm]

the whole tile approach has failed

[tall vapor]

Battlemage will be castin that fire spell on itself

[marsh helm]

amd didnt even do anything lol

[tall vapor]

oh and I should get that ptm7950 soon, wanted to equip le deck with that for a while now but always forgot abt it

whoopsie

[copper notch]

ARC was pretty much doomed to failure IMHO

[marsh helm]

he fired the head of arc

while he was in hospital

and that person joined the big ARM company in india

it hasnt gone anywhere since he did that

[copper notch]

The writing was long on the wall since before the first cards were ever publicly launched. If Battlemage discreet ships at all I suspect it'll be paper launch. Doesn't look like any OEMs want it, and there's like one AIB (Biostar) likely to consider it.

[tall vapor]

oh? Ye talking abt Raja?

[marsh helm]

yes

[tall vapor]

nobody wants him, lol

amd didn't want him no more, intel doesn't want him either

oh well

[copper notch]

I think ARC will live on only in iGPU in any real capacity

[marsh helm]

https://tenstorrent.com/vision/raja-koduri-joins-tenstorrents-board-of-directors-cto-ljubisa-bajic-scales-back-his-role

keller is heading it

keller is scary

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/chip-design-legend-jim-keller-aims-for-tenstorrent-wins-in-markets-not-well-served-by-nvidia

[tall vapor]

inb4 what was done with the kabylake G chips that included vega will be rewoken cause intel won't even bother with it's own iGPUs no more

[marsh helm]

i bet this will outsell intel ai

gpus

oh cookie

[tall vapor]

who says that the iGPU tile has to come from intel themselves still

[marsh helm]

did you see this

https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cpus/steam-game-listings-must-now-flag-any-kernel-level-anti-cheat-software-integrations

thats a good thing

[tall vapor]

yes, it is indeed a good thing

"WARNING: This game includes kernel level malware, proceed with caution"

[marsh helm]

yep

now to counter that

[tall vapor]

per machine at that

[marsh helm]

oh good news

[sudden adder]

we’ll see

[marsh helm]

man today is just full of good news badnews

[tall vapor]

haha "refine". will they store the screenshots it constantly takes as AVIF now or something?

without actually fixin any of it?

[marsh helm]

no they are adding the ability for the ai to control your keyboard and mouse

[tall vapor]

mmh, sweet

[copper notch]

Microsoft Recall is only doing what its name implies. 🙂

[marsh helm]

i havnt seen intel mention this

https://www.tomshardware.com/desktops/gaming-pcs/nvidias-arm-based-pc-chips-for-consumers-to-launch-in-september-2025-commercial-to-follow-in-2026-report

but they really should be worried

the only ppl buying intel cpus is to make them into an ai server

[tall vapor]

I mean that's what amd&intel increasing cooperation is all abt

[marsh helm]

buy 10 nvidia gpus and one or 2 zeons

[marsh helm]

they wont work together

amd should just buy up a company thats making a good linux distro

they have a big lead in linux

[tall vapor]

why would they

[copper notch]

And at the same time AMD is making their own ARM CPU for release in 2025 IIRC

[marsh helm]

windows is nerfing their cpus hard

[tall vapor]

ye but why buy up lin company

that no make sense

[marsh helm]

make a good x64 emulator and have it run in linux

[tall vapor]

nothing to buy

[marsh helm]

on arm

[tall vapor]

that's already in the works tho

[marsh helm]

yuh do it faster

windows is killing x86

[tall vapor]

go to bed

[marsh helm]

this ai stuff is going to cause some ai malware to get out

i dont trust them

[copper notch]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Valve take a second shot at launching gaming PCs after success of Steam Deck. Perhaps AMD or ARM based gaming PCs in a few years would make sense for them.

[tall vapor]

oh ye, they're absolutely working on that no doubt

[copper notch]

Steam Machines failed hard, but they were a specification and not really Valve 1st party hardware. It was a product nobody was asking for or wanted. But Steam Deck hit the nail on the head, and a lot has happened in computing and gaming since then, as well as Linux gaming compatibility over time.

[tall vapor]

the arm based ones would still be amd

[tall vapor]

valve put in the work and THEN dropped the deck, basically

[marsh helm]

ah https://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Sound-Wave-ARM-APU-for-Windows-reportedly-in-works-with-strong-NPU-performance.839360.0.html

[copper notch]

So if Valve launched their own 1st party hardware they have a shot at doing it right and either making a full blown console type thing and/or a full blown gaming PC type thing.

Yup, Sound Wave is it. Weird name though.

[tall vapor]

console more likely, but that's still a pc nonetheless

basically a stationary deck thing of sorts

[copper notch]

Every unit sold comes with a free copy of the simultaneously launched Halflife 3

[tall vapor]

yeah, that's just ms going "hey we want arm, but dammit having a gpu that manages to put a web browser on screen would be sweet too"

[marsh helm]

yeah

but hey it pays for some of the RND costs

[tall vapor]

ms pays for it

cause it's a custom order from ms

amd obv charges more than what it actually costs

[marsh helm]

yuh they have been burned soo many times by microsoft

they probably dont give them any discounts

[tall vapor]

so really ms ordering an arm soc from amd finances x86&radeon dev

just like all the previous custom things did

that's why ya do custom things

to get money that ya can put towards things that ya actually wanna do

[marsh helm]

i do wonder if intel will have its chips funding cut because they fired soo many people

15000 is a lot

[tall vapor]

ofc not

[copper notch]

It's more than half of AMD's entire head count.

AMD has like 26k employees IIRC

[tall vapor]

pretend to be biggest ic company ever, get money fitting such a company, fire everyone, ???, ?profit?

[marsh helm]

its more than all of the ppl in USA

they ripped off oregon

they got money from the city there and then fired 3000 ppl

[copper notch]

Someone needs to make an animated meme of Lisa Su driving a bulldozer with the AMD name and logo on the side, into Intel HQ.

The bulldozer should have "FX8350" written on it as a license plate or something

[marsh helm]

if the stock ppl force intel to sell any of their factories