off-topic

[thick geyser]

exclusive psu for newegg deals

[marsh helm]

sooo nobody did that so they just forced ppl to buy a really bad psu

[thick geyser]

trash psu good gpu

[marsh helm]

newegg also owns rosewill

[thick geyser]

but then it will turn into trash psu dead gpu

[marsh helm]

and their stuff is horrible too

[tawdry orbit]

Had to search quite far back for that

[marsh helm]

ah yes

[thick geyser]

also yall

i need a suggestion

[marsh helm]

dont buy rosewill

vote for laws that support local wildlife

[thick geyser]

i have a rotting i7-4790 in my computer, whats the highest gpu i can pair it with

[marsh helm]

1060?

thats pretty damn old

[thick geyser]

i was thinking a 2060 6gb but then i looked up bottleneck calculator, it got 30ish something %

[marsh helm]

thats what 11 gens old

[thick geyser]

yep

[marsh helm]

yeah 1060

[tawdry orbit]

Bottleneck calculators are not reliable

[marsh helm]

they are bullshit calcs

[tawdry orbit]

Bottlenecks in general are a pretty over-worried topic imo

[marsh helm]

i wouldnt bother investing more than a 1060 with that cpu tho

[thick geyser]

i also looked at some gaming tests on youtube, 4790 and 2060 can play games nicely in 1080p but has quite some frametime spikes

[marsh helm]

its not really bottleneck that you have issues with

[thick geyser]

but i wont be hardcore gaming anyways

[marsh helm]

its that modern games will run over that cpu

[thick geyser]

all i want is i can edit 1080p60 videos on premiere pro using cuda

[marsh helm]

thats a lot for a cpu like htat

its ooold

[thick geyser]

originally i thought it would use the mercury engine (CUDA) for rendering and such

[marsh helm]

cpu is used a lot

for a lot of stuff

[thick geyser]

rn i also have a rotting 750 ti in my system

my pc is old lmao

[marsh helm]

thats ancient

at some point they will just die

[thick geyser]

amazingly nvidia still gave driver updates

until recently

[terse helm]

for the record I used to have a 1080ti in a pc with a 3770

[thick geyser]

they discontinued the gtx lineup

[thick geyser]

1080 is about the same performance as a 2060 super i think

[terse helm]

and I noticed only a small improvement when I went to a ryzen 3600

[thick geyser]

what did you use it for?

[terse helm]

games

[thick geyser]

1080p60/120/144?

[marsh helm]

the single threaded performance and lows should of been waay better

[terse helm]

1080p or 1440p depending on the game

[thick geyser]

my monitor is 1080p165 but 750 ti only supports HDMI 1.4a so i can only do 144hz on a 165hz 💀

[terse helm]

I run my 165Hz monitors at 120

[thick geyser]

same

well i do it because my gpu cant keep up 🙏

[terse helm]

I do it because it's better for video

[thick geyser]

yep

screenrec 60fps on 144hz is bad

[terse helm]

and randomly one of them decided not to like that refresh rate anymore

[thick geyser]

if i were to record 24fps on 144hz then it might not be as big of a problem

[terse helm]

I used to do it for power draw actually

[thick geyser]

but who would do that

[terse helm]

my 1080ti would draw way more power if I used > 120Hz

[thick geyser]

welp i have some confidence then

pairing my old 4790 with a 2060

what if i undervolt/underclock 💀

prolly wont make a difference

[terse helm]

tbh I'd go newer

if you have the budget

[thick geyser]

yep

[terse helm]

like if you get a better gpu now you can always upgrade the pc it's in later too

[thick geyser]

i want a GPU cheaper than buying a CPU/RAM/MB upgrade

i have a 550w psu rn.. 4790 tdp is 84w but in my testing it goes up to 64 watts

[thick geyser]

my board is maxed out 💀

[terse helm]

well yeah you're on intel

so that would involve swapping out the mobo and ram too

[thick geyser]

should i upgrade to an 1151 or 1200 first or gpu

[terse helm]

I'd upgrade gpu first

[thick geyser]

and what would that be in ur opinion..?

like a 3060?

[terse helm]

whatever the max your budget can get is

I'd look for second-hand too

[thick geyser]

what should i get for 350 usd 💀

[terse helm]

I've gotten literally every gpu I've ever bought second-hand for way less than retail

[thick geyser]

i've also heard that mining cards arent a bad of a deal

[terse helm]

there is literally nothing wrong with cards that were used for mining

[thick geyser]

articles just painted a bad image on them

[terse helm]

if anything they're better

[thick geyser]

right?? cuz mining is less intensive than gaming

[terse helm]

less about the intensity and more how they were used

[thick geyser]

usually they overclock the memory, but undervolt the gpu for power saving

[terse helm]

miners tend to run them 24/7 which is good (no temperature cycles)

[thick geyser]

was about to say

[terse helm]

the only thing is you need to make sure they have a normal bios or you can get a normal bios on there

[thick geyser]

some gpus have a bios switch

like the RX 580

those are dirt cheap now

what happened 💀

i can get them for like 50 usd here

[terse helm]

rx580s are pretty old now

but yeah look at whatever second-hand marketplace your area uses and find the highest number nvidia card you're willing to pay for

[thick geyser]

and i should worry less about bottleneck then?

[terse helm]

I wouldn't worry about that at all

[thick geyser]

DDR3 system 🤣

[terse helm]

bottlenecks are more about wasting money than anything else

[thick geyser]

o yeah i have 1 more question

[terse helm]

like it's pointless in most cases to put a 4090 in a system with a core 2 duo because that core2duo won't get the max performance out of the 4090

but it'll work fine

[thick geyser]

my gpu rn has 2gb vram, everytime it goes above 2gb, apps just crash

instead of switching to the "Shared Memory"\

is that normal?

[terse helm]

I have no experience with that, I've always had way more vram than I needed

[uneven spear]

Yes. Unless you're on extremely recent drivers, you can't have one program allocate more than dedicated vram, even if a combination might otherwise fit.

If you /are/ on recent drivers, then you need to use the nVidia control panel to tell the driver that it's allowed to split stuff, owo.

[thick geyser]

this one, i suppose?

[uneven spear]

Yeah, owo. It's set the way that it needs to be. If it still crashes: Get more vram.

[civic quarry]

Mint's Experimental Wayland session really is Experimental

[tall vapor]

Yeah, yeah it is. Who could've guessed

[civic quarry]

hahahahahaha

[open rune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_yinEGaM5o
Who's ready for a free fly

[amber sparrow]

So that's a free fly the 17th-29th?

Can you remind me on like the 15th?

And then teach me how to enjoy this "game"?

[open rune]

Just stand in the back of the ship with the door open
I'm going to gun it
We're going to see what happens

[amber sparrow]

That sounds like a party to me

I live for chaos

[open rune]

The fun part is when I let off the gas and you crater back into the cargo hold

But yes I will remind you and show you how I live

[livid plover]

redneck science! in spaaaace!

[open rune]

It's a trick, I've conducted this experiment many times

Assuming the servers aren't all on fire I think this is the first patch with an actual usable UI

I'm kind of curious what a normal person would think

But I'll settle for matty

[livid plover]

fun, starfield is also getting serious UI improvements on the 15th

[open rune]

SC really ruined that game for me haha

[tawdry orbit]

Bethesda finally figured out how to make a map 🫡

[open rune]

So did CIG!

After 10 years

[vernal current]

just found out a discord i was in shut down...i was wondering why i couldnt see it on my list anymore

[open rune]

Squeaking in just before hitting 700m in funding, maps are hard

[vernal current]

they need to put some kind of message if a discord closes or if you get kicked

[tawdry orbit]

Huge leaps in map based technology recently!

[summer lion]

Guys what is better for recording

Obs or GeForce?

[livid plover]

depends on if you need more than the very basic recording that geforce experience does

[summer lion]

Cool but what is the most performance friendly like won't effect the performance that much

I'm rtx 3050

[livid plover]

geforce because they have some driver-level, nvidia only special access spposedly

but it records and nothing else that OBS does

[summer lion]

So GeForce is better for my pc performance and its simple compared to obs

?

[livid plover]

sure

but if you need/want something that OBS does then you're left with no choice. it isn't that much heaviere probably

[summer lion]

Idk how to thank you for helping me

That was truly helpful

Tysm

[livid plover]

test both and decide which suits you best really 🙂

[summer lion]

Yeah sure why not

Ty for helping <333

[smoky rapids]

What's the easiest way to get something off of shadertoday into an OBS friendly format if I know absolutely nothing about shaders?

I technically have a way as is but looking at other options.

[amber sparrow]

@copper notch is a shader fiend

[smoky rapids]

For context these are the ones atm
https://www.shadertoy.com/view/Wt33Wf
https://www.shadertoy.com/view/XccGW4
https://www.shadertoy.com/view/fstyD4

Just doom scrolling the browse search.

[uneven spear]

Commission someone and pray, owo. It's not a simple porting job.

[silver fable]

Why, though?

[sterile flower]

Great question

[amber sparrow]

Better than a random YT link I suppose

[opaque halo]

With SporkFight

[prisma dove]

bored and confused

[amber sparrow]

Dazed and Confused better

But these kids might not understand

[prisma dove]

lol no, many kids won't understand

[sterile flower]

Understand what? 😁

[open rune]

Dazed and Confused is a classic Linklater coming of age movie from the 90s

Also a great Zeppelin song

[opaque halo]

The sequel to Fast Times at Ridgemont High

[compact lark]

so, I did a fresh install which means...
old version of chromium browser gets ....ed out of extension store
so I install new version(s), chromium and un-googled chromium, why both?
google sites don't offer saving passwords in that browser, they think you should use the profile system
I don't like logging into 5 accounts anytime after I close the browser, but I don't want to sync my bookmarks and junk.

after googling a bit, didn't see anyone make a tutorial for it, march '22? is when ppl were noticing it.. so I switched to firefox, did I overlook something and overreact?

[open rune]

Why not sign in and choose not to sync anything so the browser can still use the signed in profile to hit your Google services

[compact lark]

the way it's advertised, profile -> turn sync on (read the tooltip on what that does), turned me away

okay with no extensions, ungoogled chromium (new install) doesn't log the accounts off after it's relaunched
so I'll look into that
wasn't able to repro it yet, I'll keep looking, not being signed out automatically isn't happening the second time around

[sterile flower]

Got it, thanks for the lesson in ancient history /j

[open rune]

[amber sparrow]

Woooow

Fucking kids

[civic quarry]

does OBS have a server on matrix?

[dawn fossil]

No

There's an IRC channel, but it's more or less dead

https://obsproject.com/irc

[civic quarry]

ah

[carmine ibex]

oops XD

[rotund jasper]

Yo is it cool if change my current account into my new one meaning I gotta leave this server with my current account and join in again with my new one?

[silver fable]

Looks a bit Helldivery

[karmic tiger]

lmfao what did they do?

[silver fable]

You have to get a PSN account to play, and if you don't, or live in a country that can't, then you're fucked.

There's a decent list of countries that can't create PSN accounts due to Sony not having a physical presence there.

[carmine ibex]

you have to link it with Steam
and yeah, some people just can't play the game now.. stupid
and Sony is known for having personal information leaked many times

[karmic tiger]

oh wow yeah that's kinda warranted

[amber sparrow]

It was a requirement since day 1 that they allowed people to skip if they wanted for the short term

It's the internet being a bunch of babies

As usual

[terse helm]

is it

or should there never be a requirement for a game bought on steam to link a non-steam account

imo valve should just forbid this on their platform

[amber sparrow]

Valve has set shit up to allow it. This isn't the first game and won't be the last

Steam is ass anyways

(Well, most launchers are ass imo)

[terse helm]

steam is so far as I can tell the least bad

[amber sparrow]

I personally don't mind egs

But I think im prob in the minority

[terse helm]

I only use that for fortnite

and the occasional free game they give me to attract me to their store

[uneven spear]

Thank. You. x.x

[copper notch]

I have no problem with the company or their store personally, but I'm a big mooch for the free games there whether I'll ever play them or not. It's like FREE gimme gimme yeah! LOL I've never bought a single game there and have like 500 games now. They'd have to have some mega I have to have it or I will die game with exclusivity for a year for me to consider buying one there though.

Like if that Unreal Engine "The Matrix Awakens" UE5 show-off demo got turned into a full featured game released exclusive on their store, I'd buy it because The Matrix.

[stray heath]

GUYS

DO NOT SCREAM INTO YOUR MIC

I screamed so loud into my mic i capped out my audio and it crashed my OBS Studios

[livid plover]

sure

that's what filters are for, so you can scream/get loud and it'll still not clip/get super loud for the viewer 😄

[stray heath]

how do i add that lol

[prisma dove]

!voice
and for further audio support, head to #audio-support

[wise bay]

A basic guide to improve your microphone quality can be found here: https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/514/

[stray heath]

Im good thanks

I think im good look up a youtube video since everyone here is too lazy to write out more than a sentence

[livid plover]

if videos work better for you that's fair 🙂

[prisma dove]

That guide is better than the average yield of a google search. In fact, it covers it so well, that's all most people need.

[prisma dove]

And if you are new to using filters in general and what the different types are, then I high recommend that guide. If you really want videos, there are three or four content creators who have great "quick explanation" videos as well as in-depth tutorials on what each filter does. But a chat channel, even in support, isn't the best place to teach someone from scratch.

[left heart]

well, that was interesting. took a few days but I managed to tune a piano

some of the keys still don't like working, but at least the notes are in tune now

if anything I think I was saved by the part where the stretching of the octaves is a bit of a free parameter

[proper valve]

Hi

[cobalt dome]

Hi

[full fern]

We're having a yummy midmorning drink/snack. A shot of espresso poured over vanilla ice cream

[rich junco]

Howdy. A peer of mine and I are embarking on a experiment with streaming our computer engineering chats. I've been playing with OBS, and I like it. He likes OBS, too, but wants to start with StreamYard since a lot "startup costs" go away with it. I'm on the fence - OBS is complex, yes, but it seems like the possibilities of configuration make it a more capable option. Anyone have thoughts around which to choose to start out with - a SaaS streaming proxy like StreamYard or OBS?

I'll say I do wish that I could find a 'marketplace' for community Scene templates. Or does that actually exist?

[full fern]

What kind of "startup costs" are we talking about?

[amber sparrow]

Set up(time) I assume

[full fern]

Oh, yeah, could be

I was speculating maybe multistreaming

[rich junco]

Yes, like, setting up basic Scenes (in OBS terms) seems kinda trivial in SaaS - otherwise, noobs like me wouldn't be attracted. 😄

[amber sparrow]

Streamlabs plugin accommodates that quite well

[rich junco]

@full fern Ah, I actually got multistreaming to work in OBS and it is pretty nice. 🙂

[amber sparrow]

https://streamlabs.com/obs-plugin?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=streamlabs obs plugin&utm_campaign=&utm_content=RSA&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwudexBhDKARIsAI-GWYXPAfQH6oROyFb4SfgUMI6gEinle7XFZf178FTbQNPeBPsB32An_aUaAoXTEALw_wcB

[full fern]

Excellent! I concur with Matty on premade setups. Good place to start

[rich junco]

@full fern If I'm understanding 'multistreaming' to mean streaming to multiple outputs.

[full fern]

Yup, that is correct! And doing it in OBS is a literal cost saver, as many places that will let you multistream don't do it for free

[rich junco]

checks out Streamlabs

This is the multistream plugin I used: https://github.com/sorayuki/obs-multi-rtmp It's suprising that it worked, because it isn't 'supposed to' be able to work with OBS 30.1.1, AFAIK.

Thank you, @amber sparrow & @full fern .

Ooh, is that Streamlabs plugin only for Windows?

cries

[full fern]

!sl I can't tell from their site whether it's only windows, probably will have to ask. (link below for support)

[wise bay]

As Streamlabs Desktop is not maintained by the OBS Project, we are unable to provide support for it. For help with Streamlabs Desktop, visit the Streamlabs Support Center.

Note: You can also use Streamlabs wide selection of on-screen widgets directly in OBS Studio. To learn how, follow Stream Layout Tutorial 2: Alerts & Chat Box.

[rich junco]

Yah, the plugin download goes straight to an .exe file, and searching "Linux" (my OS) in their Help gets nothing relevant.

But thanks anyway.

[uneven spear]

Isn't streamlabs as a whole, windows-only? owO?

[reef summit]

SLD exists for Windows and macOS

the OBS plugin, last time I checked, was windows-only

[uneven spear]

You, omg hai! OwO!

[amber sparrow]

Linux. No Bueno

Spicy marg FTW

[full fern]

For a minute I thought this was a giant marg next to a bed and I was curious why someone would put it in there. It obviously belongs in the backyard for splashing

[amber sparrow]

Bahahaha

I'd like to splash in a giant marg

Holy f my lips are on 🔥

These jalapeños are SPICY

[uneven spear]

Matty "Fire Lips" Chan, owo? I forget your usual name!

[amber sparrow]

Fresh. SO FRESH

Bad derg

[uneven spear]

[amber sparrow]

owo

[uneven spear]

owo

[amber sparrow]

Kachin. I like you. You are good peoples

[uneven spear]

Thank you! OwO!

[amber sparrow]

SL plugin screwed me 😦

It legit wont let obs launch from my shortcut. da fuq. as soon as I uninstalled, works just fine

No streamlabs plugin play for me. shits rigged

[livid plover]

running the obs64.exe directly works fine? just your shortcut being wacko then

[amber sparrow]

like I'm a rookie hehehe

[livid plover]

just following procedure 😇

hits you with the !s

[amber sparrow]

nope. even runniong the exe from program files throws same error

[livid plover]

impressive

[amber sparrow]

yea hahaha

[silver fable]

Just need to clear your browser cache!

[amber sparrow]

Turns out I had remnants of se.live shitware installed

👀

[terse helm]

why are you like this

[amber sparrow]

Like what? Testing all the things to help users that break theirs?

I dont WANT this plugin but want to be able to help those that do

[terse helm]

oh ok

carry on

[amber sparrow]

I'm just a man, shirtless, drinking a beer trying to figure shit out

[silver fable]

Need more beer.

[vapid tinsel]

N00b.

[silver fable]

Another day, another couple Discord friend invites to ignore from folks trying to shill their probably ai-generated artwork to me for my streams. Jokes on them, haven't streamed since before Christmas.

[amber sparrow]

Seriously such a great line. "I just had sex and I'm about to eat NACHOS!. This is the best moment of my life"

[livid plover]

simple desires

[amber sparrow]

I'm a simple man..I like pretty dark haired women and breakfast food

[livid plover]

i'll never be out the door early to enough to catch breakfast foods anywhere

[amber sparrow]

I'm never out the door late enough ha

Except waffle house

Though that's an American heartattack thing

[silver fable]

Waffle House hashbrowns... Gotta get 'em smothered and covered, at least.

I liked to get them diced and peppered as well.

[amber sparrow]

Is diced with the chopped ham?

I like em smothered and covered for sure tho

[silver fable]

Diced adds grilled tomatoes, chunked adds the ham.

[amber sparrow]

Ah. I will take em smothered covered diced and chunked then

[silver fable]

If you ask for them country style, they cover them in sausage gravy.

[amber sparrow]

Oooooooo

Yum

[silver fable]

Oh, and topped adds chili.

[amber sparrow]

I think I need to hit waffle house Monday morning

[silver fable]

I can't remember what adds mushrooms, but it's a thing.

[amber sparrow]

You can easily turn a $5 Hashbrown into a $15 hashbrown ha

[silver fable]

Don't think I've ever added the mushrooms, depite liking them.

[amber sparrow]

Maybe I will just for "science"

Totally worth leaving 20 minutes early Monday

[silver fable]

If you're going that way, make sure you make it a triple. If I remember right, it's only a couple bucks more.

Like super sizing, but hashbrowns. 😂

[amber sparrow]

Yea. I'll see. I'll be getting a Texas toast breakfast sammich for sure with some big Boi hash

Their Texas toast is so good

[silver fable]

Haven't had their Texas toast in forever. Used to get their Texas patty melt.

Now that my doc has thrown me on a low carb diet, if I get it, I pretty much can't have any other carbs that day. 🤣

[wheat karma]

I don't trust doctors

[amber sparrow]

Totally worth it

[wheat karma]

They just want the good food for themselves

[silver fable]

Going to the local Kura belt sushi place also screws me. I can eat that on a day, and nothing else. Of course, at ~$50/person, I can't afford anything else. 🤣

[civic quarry]

bit of a random question, but what androiud apps exist for rtmp streaming? i have some shenanigans planned for an android tv box i just dug out of the junk drawer

[silver fable]

https://kurasushi.com/

For those wondering.

[amber sparrow]

Dude I'd be there for like 2 hours

Thinking of doing rodizio steak house for kiddos end of school meal.if their grades are right. Gonna be like $150 tho

Never been so might be worth

[silver fable]

I think I was there for a couple hours.

[amber sparrow]

So def got your $50 worth?

[umbral cove]

150 a person?

ohh, prob total.. i guess

[amber sparrow]

Total ha

And only because kids are cheaper than adults

[umbral cove]

yeah, thats common is rodízio shouses

makes sense

unless very big kidos

🤣

say, have u had cupim up there?

cupim is a cut o meat

[amber sparrow]

No clue. Haven't been before

[umbral cove]

iir, its only a thing in the nelore cows

[amber sparrow]

Never heard of that cut tho

[umbral cove]

search up cupim steak, it might popup

[amber sparrow]

Ooooo a low and slow cooked steak

Right up my alley

[umbral cove]

its a part o the nelore cows, the bump right after the neck

[wheat karma]

I can't decide what to have just give me the whole cow

[amber sparrow]

Sure. That'll be $4000

Wait maybe that's the price for half a cow

[umbral cove]

cow rising do be risk in some places

roun here there was a theft recently

they stole like 2 full trucks o cows

👀

[livid plover]

HEY MATTY

why aren't you at F1 living it up

[terse helm]

matty seems more like the nascar type

[livid plover]

freedom factory event if you ask me

[amber sparrow]

I dont dislike f1, but also something that seems better observed on tv

And Miami is like a 2.5 hr drive away

[civic quarry]

you watch UFC @amber sparrow ?

[amber sparrow]

Used to. Not so much th3se days

[terse helm]

yeah

seems to me that it's much better to be able to follow all the action

instead of just one part of the track every minute or so

[civic quarry]

ah ok gotcha, yeah just curious.

[amber sparrow]

I am tempted to buy this one tho

I do like watching Connor fight

[opaque halo]

I've been enjoying Jens Pulver streaming UFC on Twitch. He has full rights to fight pass and plays past fights, shows, etc and has a great time with chat.

[civic quarry]

Oh yeah 303 with mcgregor will be awesome I’m sure.

Although I wanna see him lose

[silver fable]

Pound for pound, it's apparently cheaper to buy it that way and get a butcher to divvy it up than buying the steak/beef piecemeal. Of course, you'd need to have a place to store half a cow worth of meat, too.

[amber sparrow]

Yea. That's the usual issue. Buddy of mine back in pensacola has an entire fridge/freezer for the deer he shoots and processes during season

[silver fable]

Do y'all ever meat up?

[amber sparrow]

Bahaha

*used to

[silver fable]

This was also the problem in the original Oregon Trail. Sure, in the hunting stages, you can shoot everything on the screen, but you're only able to carry a small amount back, because meat is heavy. One bison was way more than 100% of your carry weight.

[prisma dove]

yep, a few times a year.

[amber sparrow]

Oh yea, alright. Feels good. Inside

Flip on the telly

[wise bay]

Self-advertisement or advertisement for others is not allowed on this server unless it's directly relevant to a discussion or question. Please read the rules in the #rules channel.

[amber sparrow]

<@&715347355565817879> ear breaking random video

[open rune]

Could you delete that

[wise ivy]

its not ear breaking its godzilla banana

[open rune]

I'm trying to land a spaceship

[jaunty ridge]

@amber sparrow unnecessary

[amber sparrow]

Fair

Sorry champ

[amber sparrow]

Mission:fail?

[jaunty ridge]

@wise ivy No random memes, shitposting or self promotion please unless it's specifically relevant to a conversation

[amber sparrow]

Also their first and only post on the server ;]

[open rune]

No sir everyone is arranged in a neat pile

[copper notch]

Hmmm, that just looks like another part of an animal for Canadians to make a new kind of bacon from.

[silver fable]

Wow, he looks just like Buddy Holly!

[scarlet kernel]

And you're Mary Tyler Moore 🎶

[civic quarry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVI6SCtVu4c amazing

even little old granny can use ffmpeg

[silver fable]

As Matty mentioned, it's not like the PSN account requirement, eventually, was never communicated.

[carmine ibex]

k, have fun having your ID need to be scanned in UK

[brazen thunder]

Yeah. The whole uproar just really outing people for not reading the posted warnings or EULA is pretty indicative of the level of discourse for me

[terse helm]

that doesn't make it not bad though?

[brazen thunder]

People can see it when it says dunovo, but not when it says PSN account required

[silver fable]

It's bad they didn't read the posted warnings, yeah.

[carmine ibex]

also, half the people in the world can't even play now

how is this not SUPER bad

[terse helm]

agreed, but imo it's just a delay in the bad rating

[brazen thunder]

Maybe you should not just go repeating Thor tweets

[silver fable]

No way it's half. The list of countries wasn't that extensive.

[terse helm]

if it was required from the start it would (should) have gotten bad ratings from the start

like clearly this linked account isn't a requirement from a functional perspective

[brazen thunder]

I agree it's incredibly shitty and I hate that sony pulls this shit

[carmine ibex]

isn't it pretty much all of China and Africa? that alone is over 2.5 billion people

[terse helm]

so it's just about gathering more data about people

[silver fable]

You can get a PSN account in China.

[brazen thunder]

I do think it's very ironic that this is the incident that caused it and not the 10 years prior of this behavior

[terse helm]

I'm reading just now that sony pulled it off of steam in over 100 countries

because in those countries it is not possible to create a PSN account

[carmine ibex]

I think a lot of it is people are fed up with soulless BS like this

[terse helm]

I wouldn't call over 100 countries (roughly a third of the world) "not that extensive"

[carmine ibex]

could have been Steam that did this, who knows

[terse helm]

maybe

but in any case

that's a lot of places!

[brazen thunder]

The devs already announced it's Sony that they're having to negotiate with. Seriously, go read anything but Thor's tweets

[silver fable]

Have you looked at the list? https://steamdb.info/sub/137730/history/?changeid=23416542

[terse helm]

ecks dee

[silver fable]

It's a pretty extensive list, yeah, but quite a few of those countries are pretty small, and quite a few are definitely third world with a very limited gaming base.

[carmine ibex]

so it wasn't China? my bad

[terse helm]

china is not on this list no

[carmine ibex]

I thought I read something about a person from China using VPN and getting banned... eh, idk

[terse helm]

but say Egypt is, as are Morocco, Venezuela and Vietnam

notably all not small countries

[carmine ibex]

if they were smaller, that'd technically make this situation even worse
as in, it doesn't affect their bottom line much and they are just so soulless that they don't give a fuck

[terse helm]

that's 275 million people right there

for a thing that again is not a functional requirement for the game to work

seeing as how it is currently functioning perfectly fine without giving sony all your data

frankly I think this shit should be illegal

[silver fable]

It's a requirement Sony listed, and it really doesn't matter if it is functionally required. Sony said it was. Not as though Steam will tell Sony to remove it.

[terse helm]

they should imo

this shit is bad for users and bad for the experience of getting your games on steam

have optional account linking, fine

have some incentive for doing it, also fine

requiring it, no go

[brazen thunder]

So why wasn't this an issue when origin did it?

[terse helm]

it's always been an issue for me

[carmine ibex]

https://twitter.com/OrigiGreatness/status/1786698376299561020 DRM as well

[terse helm]

I hate that I have a rockstar account now

there's no reason for it

like why the fuck do I launch a game in steam, famously a game launcher, only to be presented with a second launcher that wants my data before my game will launch?

fuck that shit so much

[silver fable]

Ubisoft games are that way, too.

[carmine ibex]

and EA?

[uneven spear]

"All your data" --- They want a UUID that points at a steam account. They don't want you to install a new storefront. They don't care if you make a new PSN account with a toss-away ID. You already installed Hekdivers II, which comes with anticheat, so your argument's already invalid to begin with.

[terse helm]

no

they want you to create a PSN account

this comes with data that you have to provide them

[silver fable]

Anywho, the folks that bought it, that are in the countries that can't play it, are able to refund it, despite hours played. Just have to go through customer service, and not the automated method.

[terse helm]

the UUID that points at a steam account is just one part of that

[carmine ibex]

only if you bought on Steam...

[uneven spear]

Oh no, you have to provide PSN with less data than you provided to Steam. Oh the horror.

[silver fable]

You talking about buying it through resellers?

[terse helm]

yes, the horror

every place that has my data represents an increased risk of data leaks

[carmine ibex]

PlayStation?
wait, I guess a PSN requirement was always there, huh?

[terse helm]

something sony's PSN btw does not have a particularly good reputation for

[carmine ibex]

yeah, nvm, me being dumb

[uneven spear]

The data they ask for is already public information. If you're afraid of having PSN have it, then you may as well become a hermit right now.

[silver fable]

I've been using my PSN account for decades now, and all my data seems fine.

[carmine ibex]

in UK, you have to have your ID scanned

[silver fable]

If you don't like the requirements that a game has, simply don't buy the game.

[uneven spear]

I've also had it for decades, and I was confirmed to have my own data leaked as part of /the/ breach that shut PSN down for days way back when.

I have not had any noticable issues as a result of this.

[brazen thunder]

I do think kachin is right, the steam UUID is what they want. It's for some marketing/sales purpose. I don't pretend to understand what exactly they're going to be selling, but it's some sort of data harvesting, clearly

[terse helm]

they want my name, DOB and address

[silver fable]

I think I got 6 months of PS Plus out of it.

[terse helm]

and if you provide false info you have a risk of getting banned

[silver fable]

As does any place that has online billing, and anything that requires age verification.

[terse helm]

I don't see how that excuses it

fewer places should be gathering data

in general

I want as few places as possible to have, and thus be able to leak, my data

and what data they have they should minimize

[silver fable]

Again, if you do not like the requirement, the best thing to do is to not buy products that have that requirement. You might not like it, but they can require whatever they want.

[terse helm]

I didn't buy it

and now I won't

[uneven spear]

I figure for PSN it's a legal thing. The game is published by SIE, so they need to only sell to where SIE says it's okay to, end of.

If this is the case, then all they'll want is a PSN account and a UUID. UUID is to prove you bought the game, PSN account is because legal said so. The end.

Now, if they are harvesting something -- So what? Like, legit, what does it matter? Think critically here; the devs even explain how to make a new PSN account and don't say "link to /your/ PSN account" in their writing; they say "a" everywhere. They just want it to exist as a formality. So, use a disposible email if you want, fill in vaguely bogus data, check the box, click the link, move on.

I figured this would be a requirement from day one, given the publisher. Because /duh/. Why wouldn't Sony want people to use PSN accounts for a game that's published by PSN? Thinkng otherwise, IMO, is just immature and short-sighted.

The current response of people whining like small children because "they did what they said they were gunna do!" is just disgusting to me.

[terse helm]

but I'm happy I'm not the only one who cares about this

given the slew of bad reviews coming in lately

[silver fable]

The slew of bad reviews is from people that didn't read the warnings.

[terse helm]

or they did

you don't know that

and again it doesn't matter

the problem is the requirement existing at all

not it becoming one later in time

[silver fable]

No, the problem is the requirement existing, people ignoring it, then getting butthurt when the requirement actually becomes required.

Or if they did notice it, again, became annoyed when the thing they knew was gonna be a problem, became a problem.

[terse helm]

the requirement existing but the game functioning entirely fine without it actually being enforced proved to people the requirement was bullshit

and that is why they're pissed off

[sick cedar]

[silver fable]

I mean, I don't even want to play the game, so I have no dog in the fight, but honestly, neither do you. LOL

[terse helm]

the horse I have in this race isn't about the data requirement for this game

it is about this problem in general

I hate this practice of data hoovering

so much

[uneven spear]

You don't know if it was fine. Maybe this was a big legal issue. Maybe this is causing issues behind the scenes on their servers because they didn't think the game'd take off and so the like maybe 10k people who didn't link wouldn't be enough of an issue to warrant caring.

But oh, the game /did/ take off, and they already had major server issues about it, and now maybe there's stuff stacking up behind the scenes and they gotta get on top of it.

[uneven spear]

Get off discord, then.

[terse helm]

no

I get to choose who has my data

I made a concious choice that discord can have it

which is fine because discord didn't require me to also make a microsoft account or link to a google account

[silver fable]

Because neither of those things are related to Discord?

[brazen thunder]

Yeah I guess marketing is a little doom and gloom, and legal is probably a more realistic take.

I agree that the sudden complaint as soon as a prominent creator ratted himself out as reading none of the warnings, terms and conditions, and the internet suddenly exploding reflects poorly both on that creator and on people who mindlessly parrot his takes.

Either way. I can only assume Sony is going to take a lesson from this that punishes PC gamers and supports Sony's idea that they need to continue to create their walled garden. They've gotten no praise for the progress they made and then flamed over this.

It seems like that's already happening, and I can't help but wonder if it will continue applying retroactively to the rest of their library now.

[terse helm]

and a PSN account is clearly not related to helldivers

frankly I don't understand why y'all are shilling so hard for these giant companies

[silver fable]

It's Sony's game, and they can make any requirement they want.

[uneven spear]

Paragraph 3: Good observation. x.x

[uneven spear]

Heckdivers II was published by SIE. They own it.

[silver fable]

I'm thinking it'll really only be a thing for Sony games that are online. Stuff like Horizon would be pretty safe.

[terse helm]

I'm quite aware

but it's not functionally required to play the game

as evidenced by the people playing without a PSN account

the account requirement is therefore bullshit and serves only Sony

[brazen thunder]

I hope so. I'll definitely be keeping an eye when their next stuff comes out and what I already own.

[terse helm]

not the user

there is no benefit the user gets from this

[uneven spear]

Doesn't mean that it's not causing issues. We already covered this.

[terse helm]

and that is wrong

you covered that without any proof

[uneven spear]

You're also assuming without any proof. What's your point?

[brazen thunder]

Do you know the game isn't using PSN backend? Musn't it for crossplay to be functional?

[terse helm]

you know

never mind

you clearly can't be convinced

[silver fable]

Oh, look. 3rd party DRM and a 3rd party account is required. Whatever shall I do.

[brazen thunder]

Legitimate question, how would it work without using the PSN infrastructure. I hear you that it wasn't required as a direct login

[silver fable]

I'm sure all the servers are Sony servers.

[uneven spear]

@silver fable Pattern recognition for my own life just went off and I need more data to verify it. By chance, do you consider yourself to be a "Twitter user", owo? Not simply "I have an account", but an actual user of the actual service? Like, a citizen?

[silver fable]

I mean, I used to Tweet out quite a lot of stuff, back in the day, but I'm more of a recluse nowadays, since I don't do anything Tweet worthy anymore.

https://twitter.com/Xorshasia <--- for reference

[uneven spear]

That's even more interesting.. What year did you make this change, owo?

[silver fable]

Ehhh... 2021?

[uneven spear]

Thank, moment. -w-.

[silver fable]

I was trying to use it to bring in more viewers for my Twitch streams. It might have worked a bit?

[uneven spear]

Okay, more investi -- Oh, perfect. Okay. That tracks. WOnderful! OwO!

[brazen thunder]

makes me wonder how/if this situation would affect Outriders, as an example. Online Sony game, with crossplay, as far as I can tell (I don't have it installed anymore) it never required a PSN login, it's not flagged on the store page.

[uneven spear]

Oh, oh even better, because *mumble, mumble* and *weird dragon noises* so we can *is that a muffled roar...?*, owo.

[karmic tiger]

god you'e cute kachin

[uneven spear]

Thank you! OwO!

[brazen thunder]

Heyhey pen

[silver fable]

Wait, did my Twitter really help any, at all?

[uneven spear]

Okay, let's regularize this. -- Penwywern, same question, do you consider yourself /currently/ to be a citizen of Twitter, owo?

[karmic tiger]

nope, and never was

[uneven spear]

Nifty, thank. Krisires? o.=.o? And anyone else?

[karmic tiger]

kachin casually collecting data on obs support members

[brazen thunder]

Passive only. It was too high friction for me

[uneven spear]

Possibly a lot, and it's not just Twitter, but Twitter's gunna be what's common here.

[sick cedar]

I used to use twitter daily to follow up on industry news, tournaments and certain content creators. I never tweeted, it was essentially like a glorified personalized rss feed 😛

[brazen thunder]

Like, I have it open right now following my buds being fucking stoked about their game selling a ton of copies and that's about it

[uneven spear]

Oh my gosh how did I not realize this sooner? I feel dumb now.

Okay, there's one missing prediction here, but once I figure it out, I am absolutely basing my social life around it. Bare with, am trying to figure out how to translate it to english. The short of it is, I found a pattern that /very very rapidly and reliably/ predicts who I definitely will and won't get along with, with rather disturbing accuracy, and determnng it only requires asking very light questions.

[copper notch]

Seems reasonable to me. How else are they going to leak all of your personal information for identity thieves the next time their servers get hacked? 🙂

[karmic tiger]

pantscrab

honestly they 100% deserve it

[uneven spear]

...Oh my gosh if I use *more mumbling* it'll produce a task that current neural networks actually /are/ tailored to deduce well and we can *very strange dragon noise as a result of this face: *

Wait this is the same problem that health insurance companies try to solve, as far as profits go. Oh my gosh. /Oh my gosh it's already solved/.

[brazen thunder]

Honestly I think what they did with 11 full-timers is incredible. I'm real interested to see what their next adventures in dev/publishing are since they're both as a company already, even at their size

[karmic tiger]

yeah it genuinely is p impressive

[brazen thunder]

also, obviously yes

[sick cedar]

what game is it?

[karmic tiger]

cwab

[brazen thunder]

Another Crab's Treasure

The studio heads are family friends

[sick cedar]

oh wow. Yeah, must be blowing up, cus I've heard/seen it, and I am so out of the space right now

mr crab souls

[uneven spear]

Okay, so, basically: I want to predict how likely I am, as early as possible into the engagement, to enjoy time with new people that I meet. In order to not get in the way of organic friendships, this needs to be determined extremely rapidly, and without any deeply probing questions. I should be able to somehow determine this within the first 1-2 sentences of meeting someone. Can it be done?

I argue: Yes! And health insurerers already have the basic logic figured out, and all I really need to do is replace a few variables and /boom/! OwO!

Anyway, I can't elaborate on it in public, because the specific variables that I think I found, are likely to cause arguments. But if people PM me I can tell them there without fear of completely decivilizing #off-topic so there.

[silver fable]

We played Smash Bros before and didn't rage at each other. I think we're good. 👍

[sick cedar]

Not going to tell you how to live your life, cus I can't and shouldnt, but that feels a bit scary to me personally. I don't feel like I could create even a half decent litmus test for such a thing, without depriving myself of potentially great conversations and people. Even if its 2 out of 100, I don't personally find that personally acceptable.
There are several people that I really couldn't stand at first, that I've grown quite fond of, and have since learned to really appreciate (even if it took months).

To each their own. Some people are more protective of themselves, and have very good reason to be. Or a bunch of other reasons 🙂
Ultimately, its always going to be up to you and how you want to interact with others. There is no right/wrong, just how you want to approach your boundaries and interactions with others, just figured I'd drop my two cents on the matter

[brazen thunder]

It's doing quite well over 150k sales in under a week.
It has a happy shiny sponge-bob like look, but it's a fairly well put together souls game underneath. Really well executed ideas, a few hitches/bugs/deviations from the souls formula.

[uneven spear]

Omg wanna play Smash?

[silver fable]

🤣 I need to get that set up again. Won't be tonight, though. LOL

I should have time this coming weekend, though. I don't think I have any appointments, and don't think I have to take my mother to any, either.

[uneven spear]

It's fine, owo. This is also valid. I am not saying that everybody, or even anybody, should follow my theory. /I/ want to, though, because for me, 1/100 people failing in this hyper-specific manner, really is a huge problem to me that I want to avoid this much. I'm currently at a point where even if I ended up ignoring a dozen potential friends, but it meant that I can't have wool pulled over my eyes, I think it's worth it.

[uneven spear]

aaaAAAAA

Flaeri wanna play Smash?

[sick cedar]

Yeah, exactly. I know you feel quite differently about interactions

Don't have my controller, and only if its melee 😛

[uneven spear]

It'd be P+, which is "melee if it had a sequel".

[silver fable]

Anywho, I'm off to bed. Y'all have fun!

[uneven spear]

Good night! OwO!

[karmic tiger]

have good schleep

[sick cedar]

I'm going to go out in a row boat on a little lake today

schleep well

[brazen thunder]

Rest well. I'm also going to go get a little rest

[uneven spear]

@sick cedar https://projectplusgame.com/ Get your controller.

[uneven spear]

Omg do the thing OwO!

[sick cedar]

Kind of first want to get a headset hehe. Budget is 250 euro (preferably under 200). Needs to be wireless (not bluetooth), and have a mic.
I am not picky about sound/mic quality. Should be over ears. Open back would be a pretty big bonus.
Any suggestions?

[uneven spear]

My reality omg. So far, with everyone I consider to be a "safe friend", there is /flawless/ correlation. I never even thought to ask the singular question that I am now asking people, before, even tangentally. aaaaaaaa I need a statician.

[karmic tiger]

I'll give you the first thing my mom was told by her teacher when she started an engineering school specialised in statistics : "statistics are like miniskirts, they give ideas but hide what's important"

[sick cedar]

[uneven spear]

What if derg is p-hacking?! D:

[karmic tiger]

data derging?

[uneven spear]

Yes!

[brazen thunder]

Would that make it a Lie of P

[uneven spear]

Yes.

Okay, the pattern's less-applicable than I thought but still infinitely valuable to me. I finally had one negative, but the circumstances are weird. So far we're at /like a dozen that perfectly follow my prediction/ though, with only one "failure" and even that's not the full story.

Need more samples.

[sick cedar]

Think I'm going to get the Arctis Nova 7 again 😅 Its been updated, but I assume its not going to be worse than the old model

mic is crap as per usual, but thats okay

[opal timber]

I checked with a friend that was gonna get a new headset as well and our research didn’t help finding a good headset mic.. for some reason they are always cheap. Even if you are willing to pay a bit more you won’t get much more quality D:

I was wondering when a company will start producing cooler third party stick mics and sell them to go along most popular headsets.. not sure if there’s something similar already, I didn’t find anything

[silver fable]

If you want a quality mic, it won't be part of a headset, or a headset like device. They're too small to have a decent capsule like standalone mics.

[copper notch]

Imagine a headset with an integrated SM7b and Cloudlifter built right in.

[opaque halo]

[copper notch]

I thought that was Delia Derbyshire for a moment

[opaque halo]

Didn't know who Delia was. Now I know 🙂

[sick cedar]

They already do. Look into antlion 😛 I used to run that, when I had a nice AT headset. But the two wires getting entangled was more infuriating than one 😛

oh no 😦 There is a razer headset that has a pretty good mic, but its Razer

[copper notch]

My buddy's phone died last night while we were talking, it just bit the dust... So he's got to get a new phone now... and he is in a car and just butt-dialed me and is cursing and swearing and stuff, it's mega funny LOL

I'ma make fun of him later for being an "old people" 🙂

[livid plover]

i've had phone scammers try to argue or talk to my voicemail 😂

[copper notch]

I've answered the phone before and pretended I was voicemail. About 50% of people fall for it if you have a beep to trigger.

[livid plover]

lel

[copper notch]

Not that I answer the phone anymore though. 🙂

[livid plover]

i can see the call/text log on the SIM i have in my router that someone called it a few times, tried contacting someone for kayaking lessons 3 times, and used the number for their dentist appointment reminders 🙂

[copper notch]

LOL

[uneven spear]

Maybe it was their ol number and they didn't want to rock the boat. owo.

[livid plover]

amusingly not been contacted about my domain that i bought after eyeing it for 4 years when they didn't renew it again

but also get no mail other than what i use it for/random spam so i guess they just never used it

[vernal current]

how can you check how many people are in a server you are in? i usually do it by creating an invite but you cant always create an invite

[amber sparrow]

Shows up there for all of mine

[vernal current]

i dont see it on mine

[amber sparrow]

Desktop?

[vernal current]

yea

[amber sparrow]

Desktop be weird indeed

[sick cedar]

you can do it via the discord API. I don't know another way https://discord.com/developers/docs/resources/guild

[smoky rapids]

You can see it in the invite embed.

[sick cedar]

but they asked for how to do that without it

cus maybe creating invites is blocked or something

[smoky rapids]

Does the server not have a publicly linked invite?

[sick cedar]

dunno, just providing a way to do it without 😛

[scarlet kernel]

So I got to audition for a voice acting gig

they wanted an androgynous male leaning voice

I PERSONALLY think I hit it out of the park

[opaque halo]

🎉

[scarlet kernel]

Oh shit its an opus i forgot

[opaque halo]

Congrats on the audition. Hope you land the gig

[sick cedar]

very nice

[scarlet kernel]

Thank youuu

Part of me leans more into voice over than voice acting though

cause I had to strain my voice for that line

[opaque halo]

Very pleasant voice.

[scarlet kernel]

This is my actual voice

[opaque halo]

Wow - significant change. Both are pleasant and calming.

[dawn fossil]

Up 'til now, I've only known you to be mute

So I have to say, I teared up a little hearing those clips

[amber sparrow]

I think ash has been speaking for 6-9 months now..very proud

[proper valve]

Good news

I uh got back from my highschool graduation

14 years finally over

[dawn fossil]

You were in high school for 14 years?

Seems excessive

[marsh helm]

i didnt like hs

[drowsy mason]

If I balance my laptop on my knee on a certain spot I hear crunching from inside the chassis

Pretty loud, too

[uneven spear]

In the other hemisphere, does the OBS tomoe swirl the other way? owo?

[open rune]

It's not a toilet! Rude

[drowsy mason]

It depends, is the tomoe pressure-fed, or gravity-fed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4-L8UgPkOk

[smoky rapids]

So someone backpedaled hard AF https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929

[jaunty fulcrum]

too little too late

[open rune]

lol

[smoky rapids]

When you realize the game of FAFO isn't fun.

[open rune]

Sony: "We're not going forward with the thing everyone lost their shit over, and we'll have to figure out something else. Thx bye"

Players: Oh yeah well fuck you too! You can't do this to us!

[jaunty fulcrum]

I have zero interest in the game, so I have no horse in this race. Realistically, if they were going to have the PSN account requirement, it should have been there from day 1. You don't shoehorn it in later, that's all.

[open rune]

I don't have any real reason not to believe them when they say matchmaking was busted and they turned it off

Enforcing it so they have a homogenous co-op community isn't anything crazy on its own, they were just dumb and sold it to a bunch of people who wouldn't have normally been able to play at all

And then everyone had a bad PR contest

I also think this is a better outcome than Sony sticking to their guns and offering refunds since everybody can keep playing the game if they like it and aren't too bent out of shape at this point haha

Also Helldivers sucks play Darktide instead stop playing crappy games

[jaunty fulcrum]

they also haven't reverted the purchase restriction on steam yet, so that'll continue to hurt them

[open rune]

Better than making the same mistake twice I guess?

I don't know what to think about that yet

Also if by some weird coincidence Helldivers developers are looking in here and judging me I'm sorry for calling your game crappy

[edgy crypt]

What bitrate should I use for recording Splatoon 3 gameplay/replays

[hearty stirrup]

you shouldn't be using a bitrate number for recording

[terse helm]

^

[edgy crypt]

Ok

Just wondering why the hell my recordings are so big

One of my 5 minute recordings was half a gigabyte

[terse helm]

what encoder are you using

[scarlet kernel]

Actually

5 min, 0.5gb? Thats pretty normal yeah

in fact, a tad small for me

[sick cedar]

avg 12-14 mbit sounds pretty on par yeah 🙂

Id expect 18mbit+ for decent quality on medium complexity and speed

hugely dependant on what you're recording, but I wouldn't say what you're experiencing is abnormal at all. I'd say is pretty good even 😅

[karmic tiger]

size queen :3

[scarlet kernel]

PEN

BEHAVE

[inner pawn]

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[radiant willow]

My CSS is incredibly lacking. Ive managed to get Browser source to show the retrieval of an api as a pseudo text source, but i cant seem to get it to change font to a font i have installed.

Actually, i cant seem to get it to change to any font

[karmic tiger]

just in case, you tried https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/url-api-source-live-data-media-and-ai-on-obs-made-simple.1756/ ?

rather than using a whole browser source

[radiant willow]

I'll try it

[karmic tiger]

if it's not good for you,pop your html and css in here and I'll have a look

[radiant willow]

I got it, i just cant seem to change the font

[terse helm]

how are you doing that

or trying to I should say

[karmic tiger]

can you send the font in question here?

[radiant willow]

Do you want the ttf?

[karmic tiger]

yee the font file itself

(if you can legally share it, very obviously)

did they change the italic face?

I think they did huh

[karmic tiger]

try Abaddon?

the ? is part of it

[terse helm]

wat

who puts punctuation in a font name

[karmic tiger]

idfk lmao

[radiant willow]

strange... it doesnt look like it

\

[terse helm]

you may have to put the name in quotes if there's weird characters in it

[karmic tiger]

also, don't put the regular there

[radiant willow]

Quotes just changed it back to how it was

[terse helm]

oh

it's not a question mark

it's worse

[karmic tiger]

oh jesus fuck

saw it as a questionmark cause my thing wasn't rendering that

ty squid

[terse helm]

yeah figured

™️

[radiant willow]

How the hell do i put that in?

[karmic tiger]

Abaddon™

yeah womm now

[radiant willow]

Apparently, its CTRL-ALT-T

Gonna try that

[terse helm]

:tm: on discord

surprisingly turns into the actual character rather than an emote

(and then copypaste that is the idea)

[karmic tiger]

oh yeah they did change that

used to do the emote

[terse helm]

:r:

ok just checking

works only for ™️ apparently

because that way we can say

[karmic tiger]

®

[terse helm]

Soon ™️

[karmic tiger]

compose keys are goat :3

[radiant willow]

Hah, that really did work

[terse helm]

©

(alt-g on a mac)

[karmic tiger]

yeah but do you have þis

[terse helm]

†his

I'm sure I do

I just have to find the key

[karmic tiger]

that's the cool thing about compose keys, you can customise them, so it actually doesn't have the thurs by default, I personally set it to compose + t+ h

[terse helm]

hm appantly I cannot type icelandic/old english

what does  show up as for you?

[silver fable]



[karmic tiger]

L + ratio + skill issue

[karmic tiger]

it does show as the apple

only in discord tho, my system font doesn't have it

[terse helm]

oh interesting

yeah a box on my windows pc too

[karmic tiger]

well, no, my actual system font has it, the firefox one doesn't

[terse helm]

so someone ripped the system font from a mac or what

[karmic tiger]

nah lmao

I use pragmata as my system font, which has just literally way too much special characters

[radiant willow]

How familiar are you with that plugin?

[karmic tiger]

personally not in depth

why?

[radiant willow]

Basically, what im trying to do is have https://decapi.me/twitch/game/mackdanny show my selected game on the layout

And, it works, but i feel like i need to tweak the timing.

[terse helm]

the timing?

[radiant willow]

Idk if the api takes a while to pull up the game, or if this takes a while to reflect a change

[karmic tiger]

the API

https://docs.decapi.me/cached-endpoints

[terse helm]

ah

[karmic tiger]

that one is cached on 3 minutes

[radiant willow]

So, gotta wait, basically

[terse helm]

or use the twitch API directly

which is a bit more involved

[radiant willow]

No way that one can just return a plaintext like this one, i bet?

[terse helm]

no it returns json

decapi exists primarily to do exactly that

[karmic tiger]

also the main issue is dealing with its identification and stuff

although, for that you should only need a bearer token

[radiant willow]

This thing does json...

[terse helm]

oh yeah but for publicly visible stuff there are ways around that

I always just use twitch's own client id

[radiant willow]

Go on

[terse helm]

  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100   452  100   452    0     0   1923      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:--  1923
{
  "data": [
    {
      "broadcaster_id": "149006972",
      "broadcaster_login": "mackdanny",
      "broadcaster_name": "Mackdanny",
      "broadcaster_language": "en",
      "game_id": "14805",
      "game_name": "Metal Gear Solid",
      "title": "OBS testing. Enhanced Broadcast testing. New changes to beta. Did Muskrat get owned?",
      "delay": 0,
      "tags": [
        "English",
        "EnhancedBroadcast"
      ],
      "content_classification_labels": [
        "MatureGame",
        "ProfanityVulgarity",
        "SexualThemes",
        "ViolentGraphic"
      ],
      "is_branded_content": false
    }
  ]
}```

[radiant willow]

Interesting

So how do i get it so it says the game name?

[terse helm]

send a req to that url, with that client-id as a header

and then extract the .data[0].game_name field to display

[radiant willow]

no clue where to put the second part

[terse helm]

Headers

[radiant willow]

Oh, duh. Why did t i see that earlier?

How do i run the extraction?

[terse helm]

this I do not know

presumably you set that content-type to json

[terse helm]

try leaving pointer empty and set path to .data[0].game_name?

[radiant willow]

Ah, it works. I just needed $ in front of that

[terse helm]

ah

[radiant willow]

Cool, thanks!

[radiant willow]

Probably a bad time to ask, but that Client ID cant compromise my acct, right?

[terse helm]

no

it's the client id that twitch's website uses when you aren't logged in

[radiant willow]

Alright, cool. Just making sure.

[vernal current]

i made a smash burger for the first time last week and turned out pretty good

i plan to make more this weekend

[terse helm]

mm nice

haven't had smash burgers in a while

[amber sparrow]

Speaking of, check this one out
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLCgtuxB/

[vernal current]

why is he shouting at me 😭

[full fern]

Not the yelling man again!

ROFL

[amber sparrow]

TAKE IT!!!

Totally hope wifey buys me one of those shirts for me

"Don't f*@k it up!"

[full fern]

I do kinda love the shirt LOL

[vernal current]

@amber sparrow https://www.wearegreenbay.com/news/local-news/green-bay-man-named-deez-nuts-appears-in-court-pleads-not-guilty-signs-11k-signature-bond/

you take it

[toxic pier]

anyone know of a extension like sound alerts but for videos?

[gritty escarp]

Hello, how create an automatic !so for a raid? In OBS. thanks

[hearty stirrup]

the automatic shoutout chat components would largely be outside of obs

the site "twitch guru" has a shoutout player that handles playing clips in your video feed

[karmic tiger]

today in the category "who the fuck does that???"
A bot in twitch chat sending an advert message for ....... a BMW???

someone out there is running twitch chat spambots that advertise for BMW

what

why

[open rune]

Sounds like something a brokie would say!

Get your money up Pen
Rise and grind

You should be walletmaxxing

[karmic tiger]

if BMW genuinely pays people to advertise through twitch chat, it'd be the most gloriously broke-ass-bitch move I ever saw

[scarlet kernel]

as a broke ass bitch I concur

[open rune]

Gotta have something between the baby carriage and the hearse

I would probably be scared to drive a BMW lol

[amber sparrow]

@livid plover agrees hahaha

[copper notch]

Yeah, time to watch Gary Vee's Trash Talk videos and rake in dem greenbacks Pen 🙂

[karmic tiger]

I have no fucking clues what tha means

love feeling like a fucking boomer

[copper notch]

LOL

greenbacks are slang for US currency

[karmic tiger]

yeah, no, no that's the part I understand lmfao

tf's gary vee

[copper notch]

I know.... That's The Joke™ LOL

Gary Vee == Gary Vaynerchuk, he's a multi-millionaire with a massive social media presence, documenting the things he does, to teach people how to become entrepreneurs themselves. Despite being a multi-millionaire, his favourite passtime is to go garage saling and thrift stores, and score things cheap to flip on ebay to make phat stax.

[terse helm]

I wish I had the energy to do that

[copper notch]

He has a series of videos on a playlist called Trash Talk, where he goes garage saling and shows how he flips stuff for mega more than he paid for it.

[karmic tiger]

odds of it being staged?

[copper notch]

He puts it up there to teach others how to make good money with little effort even if they have no money to start with.

[prisma dove]

Feels like it often, no more than the History Channel shows like that,.

[copper notch]

Naw, it's raw. He's been doing this since he was a young teen

he does it just for fun, it's not like he needs the money. And he's not "selling" anything, as in doing this to promote some scheme or books or whatever.

[rough kayak]

more about Twitch itself, does anyone know why this happens and how to fix it without duplicating the tab and closing the broken one?

it usually happens when i open a Whisper but it happens a lot more during other things too and the only way to fix it is by opening the stream manager in another tab and closing the broken tab.

[wise bay]

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[cunning pine]

It could be an extension you have fucking things up, it could just be because it's chromium

[rough kayak]

happened on a fresh Chrome install

and im pretty certain its happened on Firefox a few times, i can test next time im at my PC

[smoky rapids]

So LoL capture might be fun again https://www.techspot.com/news/102889-league-legends-receives-controversial-vanguard-anti-cheat-windows.html

[jaunty fulcrum]

interesting that there's no mention of OBS

I had LoL installed in case support questions came up, but if it has Vanguard going forward I'm uninstalling it immediately.

[smoky rapids]

Unless you updated to 14.9 you don't have it yet.

[tawdry orbit]

Rip LoL on Linux I guess 😐

[jaunty fulcrum]

heh, that removed the riot launcher itself too. too easy.

[civic quarry]

vanguard is the valorant one? there aren't any capture issues with that i thought?

[smoky rapids]

That one yes.

[jaunty fulcrum]

yeah I don't think there have been capture issues with it for a while, since we moved game capture into ProgramData and ensure that folder has the right permissions

[smoky rapids]

Honestly been a while since I've seen anything mentioning league in support (when I pop in there) but this definitely can throw wrenches in thought out designed plans

[cunning pine]

Vanguard is straight malware IMO. It also demands that you have secure boot enabled otherwise it won't let you run the game.

[jaunty fulcrum]

Agreed,

[copper notch]

We were talking about 1000+ browser tabs recently... welll... um.... uh.... https://www.techspot.com/news/102871-zero-regrets-firefox-power-user-kept-7500-tabs.html

This is why we need to make 8-head displays standard.

[rough kayak]

tested on Firefox and it doesnt do it, so that means its a Chrome issue

happens on a fresh install of Chrome tho

[silver fable]

7500 tabs is not a fucking workflow. Nobody will ever need that many active tabs in any real world scenario. Why not just download the internet while they're at it? 🤣

[copper notch]

I don't have enough disk space... yet...

[jaunty fulcrum]

some people have done that too!

[silver fable]

😹 I can totally believe that.

[jaunty fulcrum]

wikipedia is actually surprisingly easy to download

[vernal current]

I've been noticing a lot of people in the work place being really computer illiterate and doing things the "old fashioned way". The crazy thing is they use their phones a lot and are constantly on all social media, but when it comes to computers....nothing

[jaunty fulcrum]

Yep, some people are just.. purposefully ignorant computer-wise.

[vernal current]

it's also crazy how many people in their 20s who really dont know how to use a computer even though they grew up with technology. They REALLY struggle with the concept of folders 😂

if they cannot touch a screen, its useless for them

[jaunty fulcrum]

I had the same issue in school where my classmates were struggling with basic MS Word/PowerPoint in 7th grade (2007) and it barely improved over the years. Meanwhile my first experience with Word was probably.. 2004ish at the latest?

I've also seen discourse online lately where the concern is due to iOS making things too easy, kids don't get a need/opportunity to learn anything more complex. And I understand the perspective, but there has to be a middle-ground.

Insert Apple's "what's a computer" ads

[vernal current]

yea they just press a button and voila

done

they dont even know how to troubleshoot

[jaunty fulcrum]

Which, like, yay for making computing easy. That's awesome.

I feel the lack of skills in troubleshooting is a reflection of the larger issues of schools not teaching basic skills in learning and problem solving. They "teach" you how to cram for an exam, nothing more.

[vernal current]

i ask for computer help all the time, but at least i can understand and put into context most of the stuff being said to me

all my family uses technology (phones) but that drops to maybe 50% when we bring computers into the discussion

its just wild that its computers that people have problems with

[jaunty fulcrum]

Yeah my mum has always struggled with computers, applying for jobs ~12 years ago for her was a PROCESS. These days the most complex device she interacts with is a Surface Go.

[vernal current]

my mom who has been doing interviews for AT LEAST 60 years asked me why we need to bring a camera to do a livestream of her seminar

im like WHAT

im convinced she does this on purpose to troll me

[jaunty fulcrum]

the pieces are there, they just don't line up

[jaunty fulcrum]

just pretend you didn't bring a camera and say "ok the livestream is live"

[vernal current]

this was 2 days ago btw

[jaunty fulcrum]

also that's just known as a podcast.

[vernal current]

she doesnt know what that is lol

[jaunty fulcrum]

that's why it'll be funny

[marsh helm]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-wants-default-settings-with-pl1-pl2-at-125w-188w-to-be-implemented-by-motherboard-vendors-by-the-end-of-may the 14900ks drops to 5.1 using the stable baseline

[karmic tiger]

ok I just saw chaos in hades 2 and like, yes

to every single possible question : yes

[uneven spear]

owwwwwwwwwwo?

[karmic tiger]

yes

[uneven spear]

owo.

[karmic tiger]

yes

[uneven spear]

Wanna play Smash?

[karmic tiger]

lmfao

I don't even have any smash games

[uneven spear]

Wanna play Hekdivers II?

[karmic tiger]

don't have that either :3

[uneven spear]

Wanna play Yugioh in goat format?

[karmic tiger]

lmao

best I can do is probably stardew valley

I really don't do a lot of multiplayer stuff

[uneven spear]

Stardew's kewl! OwO! But but but but but. o.=.o.

[karmic tiger]

pat

but chaos hot

[uneven spear]

[karmic tiger]

look. hot

[uneven spear]

Not my type but know what is? Tiny laptops! They're 35% off go go go! OwO!

[karmic tiger]

lmfao

[sudden adder]

the artwork reminds me a lot of Aeon Flux and Reign

[terse helm]

lol

[full fern]

Ergonomically, keyboarding is intensive. That said, I never pay attention to chair ergonomics because no one has ever made an office chair/desk that fits me. Too short

[amber sparrow]

Today's view cleaning pool at $5mil house

[prisma dove]

$5mil? that's it?

[karmic tiger]

noice

[amber sparrow]

Oh, sorry, forgot the 12. in front of the 5

[prisma dove]

lol there it is.

[full fern]

Gorgeous view!

[open rune]

Oh I thought it was 125m

[karmic tiger]

"veterans : see what you can afford in 2024."
Answer : lmfao, not that one

[open rune]

The poolhouse is over there in the bushes

[full fern]

That's the thing about beachfront property. They aren't making any more of it so the number always goes up

[prisma dove]

Beachfront in Florida is a driveway for hurricanes. I'll keep my earthquakes in California

[amber sparrow]

What's amazing is 90% of these multi million dollar homes sit boarded up for 9 months every year

[karmic tiger]

today's cleanup of obs support related files

[full fern]

Imagine having so much money you can just not visit your 12.5 million dollar house

[full fern]

Hehe, oh shit, I need to do that too. I just do a burn of my Downloads folder.

My phone is a lot tougher to do that with

[karmic tiger]

yeah lmao

I think that's since january

[full fern]

That tracks, yeah haha

[marsh helm]

https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-wants-default-settings-with-pl1-pl2-at-125w-188w-to-be-implemented-by-motherboard-vendors-by-the-end-of-may dergs and nondergs

this has to be karma

[livid plover]

inb4 lawsuit in the US

[open rune]

Maybe they can file a lawsuit for not defaulting to XMP being on

[livid plover]

Pile 'em on, boiz

[open rune]

I'm less interested in raw performance comparison and more interested in what power and clock speed and temps things run at between the motherboard defaults and baseline Intel settings

[amber sparrow]

7

[open rune]

Also what's with the discrepancy between K and non-K processors

[amber sparrow]

13

[uneven spear]

K is "unlocked", non-K is not. With unlock, you can go to 6.7 ghz. Without, you can only go 400 mhz in either direction, owo.

[amber sparrow]

Silly sapiens