I only care about one thing : will this be included in the standard Apple TV+ sub?
#2025 Formula 1 Championship General Chat
boreal stag
or even a cheap separate sub
canal + force you to get an über sub to everything
It's cheaper the TV, but still require you to sub to a bunch of stuff that you might not want
verbal hamlet
I mean that would make sense considering Apple produced it 
visual kraken
I mean that would make sense considering Apple produced it <:hmm:885015019618721...
They mean the streaming rights to actual F1 racing for US
verbal hamlet
oh shieee
visual kraken
I only care about one thing : will this be included in the standard Apple TV+ su...
No, only one streaming service per region and this is for US
rain nymph
This guy got a seat opening from Toto Wolff for Mercedes by the way
He binned his two chances at a win, granted one was from Hamilton being very aggressive and fucking his shit up, but he was legit told to not overtake Verstappen until the drag race for the line after Curva Grande and his dumbass decided to send it on the outside of Verstappen anyways
His teammate was racing plumbers and crack addicts in the '90s and somehow performed better than him despite being out of the sport for 30 years
glossy delta
Spoilers? Bro
rain nymph
It has been like two weeks since the movie came out
glossy delta
Yeah that’s still too early
teal portal
ripp
glossy delta
oh, copyright
Liberty media is uhmmmm
tawdry idol
I only care about one thing : will this be included in the standard Apple TV+ su...
it wont be
it cant ve
rain nymph
2026 is gonna be such an interesting year for F1
tawdry idol
they get charged per each person who has access
so if they give everyone formula one streaming
they're going to be cooked
cuz even if 90% dont watch
they'll have to pay
its going to be like MLS
rain nymph
New regs, new teams, and potentially a massive swap of the team performances
tawdry idol
rain nymph
I expect Newey will also be on close watch because Aston Martin becoming a good team or not could determine if Newey is goated or if he just has some decent skill at a particular set of ideas
tawdry idol
for MLS, a few selected games are free
rain nymph
Cause I think right now Newey has shown the most impressive design decisions during F1's two ground effect eras
tawdry idol
like the championship game
not sure how f1 will work but it will be a seperare subscription for sure
rain nymph
They should get WEC on there
tawdry idol
also Apple has their own casters
they have pre game post game show
analysis etc.
and then the regular game casters
tawdry idol
He binned his two chances at a win, granted one was from Hamilton being very agg...
btw that clip in the sim
when he made it and beat verstappen
was that him
- listening to brad pitt
or - him getting gooder so that he could have not listened and still won
rain nymph
Listening to Brad Pitt
rain nymph
Yeah we never actually get a good look at him like
"improving"
he just learns to not be stupid
tawdry idol
cuz like
i think a good arc would have been
less swanning
more like harder working
rain nymph
yeah
for a movie that is 2.5 hours long, they seem to have a pretty weak or incomplete set of character arcs
also I still do not understand why they needed to involve his manager for some of it
tawdry idol
i think they tried to get too many people
rain nymph
definitely
tawdry idol
also I still do not understand why they needed to involve his manager for some o...
i think a bit of that was fine
like, to show his change to less social media
the sex
was unnecessary for sure tho
lol
and the
board guy
like
rain nymph
villain who came in too late
tawdry idol
they just wanted a bad guy so bad but they dont really need one i dont think
cus the struggle is not against that random dude its supposed to be themselves
rain nymph
it is an opposite of the "bad guy" of the Ford v Ferrari movie
tawdry idol
cut the sex/romance and cut the bad guy
oh yeah theres like
15 character arcs that arent even all arcs
rain nymph
the movie is still fun, though
just
some things feel incomplete and
Joshua Pearce is stupid
I am a full-on Joschua Pearce hater
tawdry idol
theres
brad pitt
idris elba other idris
anton chigurh
the mechanic lady who fucked up twice
the tech director
team principal
the board guy
jp's mom and manager
the fucking reporter
who else
oh wait
the fucking reporter
LOL
rain nymph
the reporter was actually a pretty complete one and I think only there for the joke
"fuck you"
"let's bet on it"
"sure"
> reporter wins
my GOAT
tawdry idol
LOL
i think
the bad pit crew lady and brad pitt romancing the tech director and the board guy story arc should have been cut
bad pit crew lady can have like the one scene of him defending her or whatnot but idk why she kept popping up later like
rain nymph
they wanted to make a character arc for a character who gets maybe like
5 minutes of screentime
tawdry idol
i think the bad pit crew person got like
a lot of screentime tbh
like the ice bath scene
car go vroom tho
favorite part was when brad pitt said this is not formula one this is formula won then fucked off
verbal hamlet
Too much screen time for pit crew person that was dumb
Sonny Hayes learned no lessons had no risks, got the love interest and won the big race 
then continues to race
rain nymph
Do remember he is also 54 years old based on the events of the movie
And by a confirmation of his birthdate in the F1 25 video game
Which was 1969
verbal hamlet
they ripped off cars 3 
copper sparrow
Well cars 3 lightning fully embraced being a coach
Kinda different from F1 movie lul
Movie is ok, plot is extremely predictable and very cliche, actions are good, some arent realistic though lol
rain nymph
action is good
story is mid
too many characters that end up being unnecessary
It is very clear the director is still working on the formula that made Top Gun Maverick work well
This is essentially that movie but for racing
It is great and I think the vibes are a lot better despite it being lower stakes
It hits a nice entry for a lot of people at least and I think as long as people like it and feel a bit of a lasting effect by its environment then it has done its job
If you are looking for an F1 movie with good writing, though, then we got Rush to help out
I am glad they got the right team on board for this cause car movies can get really shit really easily if you fuck things up like the Ferrari movie
or worse the Lamborghini movie
That reminds me, I need to watch the Audi v Lancia movie
verbal hamlet
lel
boreal stag
it cant ve
Yhea, that makes sense. Just wanted to dream a bit. But unless a VPN works, I’m stuck with “pay 52€ a month to watch it on the internet with canal plus über subscription “
visual kraken
I just watched the F1 movie. 4/10 story, 8/10 cinematography (9/10 for F1 fans)
I did have a smile on my face whenever I saw someone from F1 in the movie and the racing sequences were cool
rain nymph
Yeah it is a story that I did not keep interest in too much but the action was sick
I feel like they really should have just leaned on the team's personal battles some more so they could raise the stakes
Top Gun Maverick had it as life or death, and if the timing was wrong the whole mission would be fucked, but in the F1 Movie the worry that the team would be screwed was not nearly as suspenseful as it should have been
Oh well, just a lesson that has to be learned by the director and moved for his next summer hit
teal portal
glossy delta
Had me in the first half, ngl
copper sparrow
no raw cheek
tawdry idol
rain nymph
teal portal
visual kraken
visual kraken
all that for 30k GBP a year
Wait what? That’s below minimum wage. Did she say that?
visual kraken
Pretty sure they make at best average salary but they are still doing it. F1 aero is bleeding edge and you can work anywhere afterwards
visual kraken
soft matrix
yeah that will solve Red Bull’s problems
visual kraken
Man listening to this was rough
Straight up podcast bros talking about shit they know nothing about
boreal stag
https://youtu.be/-q1qyu_6Q2s
prob a slow week in tech
teal portal
glossy delta
This must be the 4 version of this meme that I’ve seen but I still want to see more of these
verbal hamlet
That’s a very good -shop
teal portal
verbal hamlet
rawe ceek
visual kraken
boreal stag
Ferrari post Michael is where WDC champs go to die
wooden wave
insane pace wtf
glossy delta
NOR PIA LEC
Max had pole imo. His burnout at the first corner cost him 2-3 tenths at least
teal portal
Albon goated
wooden wave
apparently it's been 13 years since ferrari last won in rain
boreal stag
apparently it's been 13 years since ferrari last won in rain
Must be the water
wooden wave
✍️ 🗒️ 🧠
tawdry idol
Must be the water
lets add that to the words of wisdom
glossy delta
Uneventful race. I literally fell asleep during the middle
Waking up at 6 didn’t help but the race was also a snooze fest. Once Piastri passed Norris I knew it was joever
visual kraken
Uneventful race. I literally fell asleep during the middle
race director should've let them drive in the wet
What's even the point of full wets at this point
verbal hamlet
Wowza
wooden wave
max outqualified by Sauber
boreal stag
I though that was everyday with Ferrari?
tawdry idol
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/s/wesHfBdRqC
glue factory?
wooden wave
mofos almost had to implement a scrolling feature
boreal stag
visual kraken
yo i listened to an F1 podcast where they talked Lewis and one of them said "when you put a 7-time or 8-time world champion, depending how you look at it..."
The English still yapp about it
boreal stag
The English still yapp about it
Norris didn't show up as the next great british driver, so they won't forget about it until they get another generational talent
glossy delta
The English still yapp about it
Delusional idiots
visual kraken
Right? Do you also say Damon Hill is a 2-time WDC because Schumi crashed into him?
glossy delta
Maybe it’s just rage bait? I would have blissfully ignorant of who these podcasters are unless they said that
visual kraken
No, it was said in a nonchalant way. They were talking about about Lewis’ performance in the Ferrari so far and why it’s not good enough even in his first year. “7/8 times wdc is in a different spot than a young junior 2nd driver “
It was the race podcast, pretty big f1 channel
glossy delta
Cunts
teal portal
verbal hamlet
Kewl
glossy delta
Choiyna?
verbal hamlet
hai
wooden wave
cunt
glossy delta
FIA 🤝🏼 Unpopular Decisions
teal portal
all my homies hate FIA
sour tiger
Rey Skeewalker
verbal hamlet
visual kraken
This season shall be remembered as Lando - Oscar friendship season
wooden wave
verbal hamlet
oh boy
copper sparrow
verbal hamlet
😮
visual kraken
glossy delta
All aboard the Bottass #1 driver hype train
soft matrix
based only on vibes I kinda expect Bottas will easily lead in quali but there won't be a huge delta in race pace
glossy delta
IMO numbers don’t lie and Valtteri is more consistent in both quali and race. Obviously yet to be seen if either one of them experiences the Danny Ric-grade of performance nosedive, so we’ll see
soft matrix
it's hard to say
when Bottas was at the winning team, the car was by all accounts amazing and stable and predictable
when Perez was at the winning team, the car was a bastard
it will be interesting to see if the Sauber masked Bottas's decline or taught him bad habits or something
or, likely, the Cadillac will also be a shitbox and they were hired for their experience driving shitboxes
teal portal
Checo dominance might bore fans
visual kraken
visual kraken
glossy delta
I didn’t wake up early enough to catch all of qualifying, but I did wake up early enough to hear DC’s joke during Q2 about how Yuki needs a booster seat in the car
teal portal
visual kraken
visual kraken
wooden wave
teal portal
glossy delta
Anyone else watching quali?
verbal hamlet
whali
glossy delta
Verstopped the McLarens
visual kraken
soft matrix
great pass by Piastri
visual kraken
RB is fast today
soft matrix
Alonsout
soft matrix
what’s going on with Sainz like we know he’s not this caliber of driver
visual kraken
car doesn't fit him and he lost some confidence
visual kraken
they need to rebuild
they haven't stopped rebuilding since schumi left
it's the bad management
they already have a disadvantage being in italy with hiring engineers, on top of that they mess up so often
visual kraken
they need them
the engine is good, aero not so much
looks like mercedes will have yet another rocketship
boreal stag
I guess the 8 time WDC winner won't happen in that generation 
.
Unless Max get lucky about whatever the future will hold for him
glossy delta
Aside from the absolute Max masterclass, this race was unsatisfying
McLaren shenanigans, Sainz torpedoing Bearman but getting Bearman penalized, Alonso getting fucked by his car (again), Yuki disappearing into irrelevance, irrelevant Ferrari pace… man
Oh and Nico getting fucked by his car before the race even started too
copper sparrow
yeah pretty boring race overall apart from some of those highlights
glossy delta
Monza is a really simple fast track which means fewer corner passing opportunities and current formula cars prefer to pass each other in corners and with drs. Otherwise they’re pretty close in straight line - which is most of monza. So to me, is has limited drama potential
wooden wave
somber pollen
well done baku
glossy delta
I wonder if everyone is in the barriers this year because they switched from spring Baku to fall Baku in the schedule and the conditions are slightly different and are catching out the skill issued drivers
wooden wave
while the quali was exciting, the race itself was pretty uneventful
minus Norris choke
sour tiger
glossy delta
This race was shit.jpg
sour tiger
Each team does literally millions of simulations before and during the race, as a result the outcome is 90% pre-determined because they all figure out the optimal solution for any given situation too easily. The only times it isn't shit is when something bad happens, which we obviously shouldn't wish for
FIA should stop them from doing simulations
boreal stag
FIA should stop them from doing simulations<:upswagold:1270597068074782783>
Lisa Su doesn't approve that message
wooden wave
visual kraken
“Don’t waste your talent”
wooden wave
visual kraken
glossy delta
Another quali another disappointing RB car 2 appearance
visual kraken
Man if Max wins this he’ll be the GOAT
glossy delta
He’s already the GOAT… it’s why his WDC is still possible. Unless the orange McDonalds team manages to get their shit together again they have no shot
wooden wave
:kap
glossy delta
LFG
glossy delta
4 laps in and Max has already gapped the rest. Prime Max is back
Also wtf… this is probably only the second time I’ve seen Yuki capitalize on carnage and climb 5 places
visual kraken
Ferrari can't keep the pace and Legreg is defending against Norris
Looks like Max has this
glossy delta
yeah its Joever. May as well tune out now
I predict that the only action we will see at this point will be during the last 10 laps
Mr Verstappen is taking the grid for a walk through Gapistan, its over
Sharl is struggling cause his tires are donezo... but he did capitalize at the beginning so I'd say its a worthy trade-off
soft matrix
wide Leclerc still holding on tho
soft matrix
nevermind
glossy delta
nice clean stops for RBR
25s gap between Max and Jorg is nuts
Ollie what are you doing mate
visual kraken
McLaren needs to adjust strat for track position
because Lando can't overtake or takes too long to overtake
It's mad how quick those cars are around the track
visual kraken
You'll be happy to hear that you cn't hear them next year lol
wooden wave
visual kraken
Lando already has a 5s gap to LeGreg
Same pace as Max, but I don't think that he can overtake Max on track
So whatever
digital sigil
holy shit Max is only 40 points off the lead with 5 races and 2 sprints to go
is the 5th in the cards
glossy delta
Yes
visual kraken
holy shit Max is only 40 points off the lead with 5 races and 2 sprints to go
Usually I’d say that it’s still safe but Oscar is bottling harder than Coca Cola rn
sour tiger
He's just not doing as exceptional as he was. Can't expect him to be better than the number 1 driver in his team all the time
digital sigil
Usually I’d say that it’s still safe but Oscar is bottling harder than Coca Cola...
I think the problem is that Norris is a decent bit stronger in CoTA than Piastri and the McLaren seems quite prone to sliding if you're too aggressive
Norris's initial Q3 lap was compromised by a small slide in the exit of the final corner
visual kraken
He's just not doing as exceptional as he was. Can't expect him to be better than...
No no1 drivers in McLaren
glossy delta
Why do papaya seeds look like caca
verbal hamlet
Smells funny too
verbal hamlet
McLosin
mighty mason
cant wait for caddy with checo and bottas
boreal stag
wanna bet on Ferrari throwing away the 2-3?
visual kraken
Lando has the best pace, it’s his to lose
sour tiger
What the actual fuck
FIA: VSC for a car nearly behind the barriers at the slowest part of the track
Also FIA: Let's nearly kill the marshalls by sending them out to T1 under yellow flags with a car coming
glossy delta
Aside from those two very obvious weird moments, this was one hell of a race
I was watching with a 8 min delay and there was no point where I wanted to skip ahead after lap 1 carnage
sour tiger
I'm glad they didn't penalise Hamilton for making contact with Max
glossy delta
Yeah overall really really solid stewarding today
I feel like Max and Charles should’ve been punished for their lap 1 corner cutting, but it likely balanced out because “where else would they have gone = racing inchident”
Race direction has improved greatly too, I hardly saw any girlfriends and only saw Ollie’s dad twice, when it was appropriate
digital sigil
What the actual fuck
they really want to recreate south africa 77
visual kraken
So Lando WDC?
soft matrix
in 2023, Piastri's average finish at SP, LV, QA, and AD was about 3 positions higher than his average finish for the entire season
in 2024, his average finish at these tracks was about a position and a half lower than his averagae finish for the entire season
he's seen a notable dip in results at AZE, SIN, USA, and MXC this year. In 2023, those three races were roughly 2.25 positions better than his season average, but in 2024 those four races were about 1.6 positions worse than his season norm
of course the second half of his 2023 season was much stronger than the first half because he was finding his footing as a rookie, so maybe it's not helpful to say that his results at both of these sets of races were better than his whole season avg
anyways TLDR based on last year, he performed worse at the last 8 races compared to the season as a whole, so statistically speaking there's little reason to expect a massive rebound
but the data set is small and there are a lot of variables in a race
visual kraken
mighty mason
sao paulo sprint tomorrow
glossy delta
Soo… looks like Oscar can’t match Lando’s pace anymore
Wym? He beat him by sliding into the barrier first. That’s P1 (in crashing)
boreal stag
sour tiger
https://dubz.co/c/7f3556
Kimi: "I saw Lando kick up water onto the track"
visual kraken
Wym? He beat him by sliding into the barrier first. That’s P1 (in crashing)
I mean that he was faster than Oscar in the last few races
wooden wave
so it's gonna take a miracle like lsat year for max to win, huh
is there gonna be rain at least?
sour tiger
is there gonna be rain at least?
Probably not
Only like 30% if I remember correctly, might be less but not more
sour tiger
I mean that he was faster than Oscar in the last few races
Clear air will do that to ya, these cars are so cucked in dirty air. DRS has never been so ineffective
visual kraken
wooden wave
I'm reading comments that light drizzle is the worst and for overtaking it's better if it's either dry or very wet...why?
visual kraken
Maybe predictably fast or slow is better than uncertain track conditions? Dunno
soft matrix
glossy delta
Stroll turned into Bortoletto…. Omg that guy is such an embarrassment
visual kraken
Yeah
Also multiple pens
Wasn't yukis car on the "new spec"
Like they rolled back the upgrades for max
glossy delta
Wow, what a banger of a race
visual kraken
Yeah, looked like it was going to be stale but the tricky tires made it interesting
glossy delta
I was surprised to see that 3rd stop for Max, he was in P1 with tire life left - could’ve probably at least gotten P2, even if he lost position to Norris
visual kraken
Yeah, everyone thought the same
glossy delta
Gotta catch em all
wooden wave
And 22
i don't know about you
but i'm feeling 22
everything will be alright if
we just keep dancing like we're
22
visual kraken
But why?
glossy delta
Entertainment value
Or were you asking me why I think it’s over? The math is overly optimistic, so it makes me think it’s not feasible for Max to win
sour tiger
Audi P21 P22
visual kraken
Audi P21 P22
visual kraken
Hammy boy out in Q1 after topping practice sessions
practice doesn't matter imo
I think it's over for Lewis. He won't win another title
glossy delta
No, they don’t really matter, but are a good indicator of the driver’s overall confidence levels going into qualifying and race, imo. Hamilton was very confident in the dry/damp conditions, but as soon as it got really wet, he choked
glossy delta
Lewis could win a title if he gets momentum. I agree though, I think he’s too washed
copper sparrow
Dank race overall
Both mclaren called to the stewards for excess plank wear
Prob instant DQ
glossy delta
copper sparrow
Would bring max equal points to oscar lol
glossy delta
Max’ plot armour is too thick, it’s unbelievable
copper sparrow
confirmed lol
boreal stag
Max’ plot armour is too thick, it’s unbelievable
He's been F1 main character since 2021
visual kraken
Mclarens are such clowns
boreal stag
I think it's over for Lewis. He won't win another title
Such a disgraceful way to go.
visual kraken
Such a disgraceful way to go.
He wasn’t the worst, it was also due to circumstances
But yeah, hes not up to par
wooden wave
Las Vegas... Whatever happened there?
glossy delta
They went racing
wooden wave
damn reddit is auto removed
If Lando‘s engine wouldn’t have blown up at the Dutch GP, he could have won the WDC today just to lose it again because of the DSQ. Imagine the chaos…
visual kraken
glossy delta
wooden wave
reading the reddit thread about what do each of the top3 have to do
it's depressing
how did those people pass high school
glossy delta
how did those people pass high school
I haven’t seen the thread you’re talking about, but what do you mean? Is it compromised mental gymnastics or just poor math, or what?
wooden wave
I haven’t seen the thread you’re talking about, but what do you mean? Is it comp...
basically some people not understanding what "all or nothing" or "max has nothing to lose" mean
boreal stag
Kimi had one job
glossy delta
Incredible display of clownsmanship from the McLaren pit wall today
visual kraken
Incredible display of clownsmanship from the McLaren pit wall today <:kek:127060...
papaya clowns, seriously
boreal stag
Incredible display of clownsmanship from the McLaren pit wall today <:kek:127060...
the car is wasted on them
boreal stag
papaya clowns, seriously
visual kraken
glossy delta
Yes it’s still very doable for both of them to throw it
boreal stag
Very doable for Lando
I believe in super Max
visual kraken
https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/1pbde7m/members_of_the_australian_senate_discuss_whether/
fever dream
boreal stag
An important part of the Red Bull family 💙
Yuki Tsunoda will remain with the team as test and reserve driver for 2026
mighty mason
max after winning abu dhabi
tawdry idol
lol
glossy delta
I wonder if Toyota will get into the engine business again
copper sparrow
imo is pretty unlikely as it does require years of development and catching up, just see honda. Also I think Toyota prefer to focus more in WEC
even Alpine exited their engine business and will adopt Mercedes next year
glossy delta
You never know, Toyota has deep pockets
Alpine likely gave up on Renault just because they’re tractors
soft matrix
I think Renault gave up on Renault
at least according to what Szafnauer said
Renault upper management "lacks understanding of what it takes to succeed in F1" and wanted instant success
and they took control of the F1 team's marketing, finance, HR, etc.
which led to the Piastri debacle
becoming a customer team is probably just corporate austerity
and tbh when you look at McLaren outperforming Mercedes with their own engine it makes sense why it'd be appealing
bright vault
visual kraken
I think Renault gave up on Renault
the frxnch waved the white flags
boreal stag
Renault upper management "lacks understanding of what it takes to succeed in F1"...
Renault is using turbo hybrid engine on consumers cars, they got what they needed from F1
soft matrix
hard to see Hamilton drive like this
boreal stag
so apparently Norris made an overtake beyond the tracks limits, but didn't get a penalty because the FIA is tired of Max winning?
somber pollen
🇬🇧
soft matrix
no driver would’ve gotten a penalty for that
soft matrix
Audillac
visual kraken
visual kraken
not sure if irony or not
wooden wave
visual kraken
i think he is still on reddit but with another acc
glossy delta
not sure if irony or not
No, I meant it. It was a satisfying race to watch and wasn’t nearly as much of a snoozefest as AD usually is
boreal stag
This is rough man
Ferrari is where multiple WDC champs go to die
visual kraken
visual kraken
glossy delta
Wait, I thought Honda was done with F1? Who are they supplying in 26?
copper sparrow
Wait, I thought Honda was done with F1? Who are they supplying in 26?
Aston Martin
So Alonso will be back with Honda
visual kraken
GP2 engine
boreal stag
https://girlcockx.com/hondaracingf1/status/1999426305750638690?s=46
I really don't think that a high rev V6 sounds that good :/
I will never stop bitching about it
tawdry idol
f2004
wooden wave
soft matrix
I like Bernie but I think it's wild to rate Piastri’s 2025 season higher than Verstappen or Norris
the championship is a marathon
he was clearly not able to maintain form for the duration, and isn't that kind of the most important part
glossy delta
Agreed. Norris had better form for more races, but only marginally so. Not rating Max higher is delusional
wooden wave
100minute video, damn
visual kraken
can't wait for new season
glossy delta
When do you guys want me to create a new 2026 thread? On January 1st or sometime in February?
wooden wave
visual kraken
When do you guys want me to create a new 2026 thread? On January 1st or sometime...
Not many people post here, you think maybe a single channel for all F1 is better?
glossy delta
Not many people post here, you think maybe a single channel for all F1 is better...
We had that before but it was messier. I’m willing to go back to a single channel though, if that’s what you guys want
visual kraken
We had that before but it was messier. I’m willing to go back to a single channe...
I haven’t been very active due to my current work. How active is the server in general rn, is it more or less compared to a few years ago?
glossy delta
It’s definitely grown a lot over what it was a few years ago. Most users still largely only lurk, but there’s definitely more noticeable engagement everywhere
glossy delta
copper sparrow
Makes sense, theres not enough activities to make it a forum