#2025 Formula 1 Championship General Chat

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glossy delta
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Soon™

sour tiger
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Soon? swog

somber pollen
glossy delta
clever yoke
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I think it's going to be an absolute cracking weekend, a very hot qualifying, then rain on race day, at least 10 to 15c difference in temperature over the two days

rain nymph
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Cannot wait to see how ex-Formula E driver Pierre Gasly will perform in F1 this year

rain nymph
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what is his reasoning for doing this...

glossy delta
copper sparrow
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its was such a meme that it becomes his signature move

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he always do that in podiums

glossy delta
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Yeah he’s a good sport about it

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It’s a wholesome, homegrown meme

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Win win

rain nymph
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I like Fernando Alonso staring into my soul

rain nymph
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15 minutes until Formula 1 quali guys 🏁

somber pollen
rain nymph
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Here we go!

somber pollen
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haas in australia

rain nymph
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always goes well lol

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the new F1 graphic looks nice

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LMAO

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Gearbox issue for Ollie's Haas

somber pollen
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did they do something with the camera work? cars look 10x faster

rain nymph
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I genuinely worry they called Antonelli too early into F1

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like he is good, but I feel he still needs time to incubate

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oh well

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hopefully it goes well in race

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Sainz ahead of Hamilton in a Williams

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oh shit I forgot about Lawson

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what the fuck

somber pollen
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ah, the 2nd red bull seat

rain nymph
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what the fuck

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Tsunoda would have done better

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fuck this team bro

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LIKE COME ON

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TSUNODA 6TH AND LAWSON P18

somber pollen
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tsunoda p6

rain nymph
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OH MY FUCKING GOD RED BULL

somber pollen
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

rain nymph
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Good job Gabi

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Another Haas failure in Australia

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Tsunoda competing with Ferraris in an RB

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🥀

somber pollen
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nice save from bortoleto KEK

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both williams on q3

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nice change

rain nymph
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Wont be surprised if they top the midfield

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the only team in contention imo would be RB because Yuki

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and Hadjar does not look too bad for a driver

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but yeah Williams looks solid

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good news for me who supports Albon

somber pollen
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james turning the team around, good shit

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again, lawson p18

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albon p5, solid

rain nymph
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HELL YEAH BABY

somber pollen
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nvm yuki got it

somber pollen
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my guy is cooking

rain nymph
boreal stag
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I feel like they could have kept checo tbh. That doesn’t look like a good start for a constructor title

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Meanwhile McLaren is already on fire

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Delulu redubull in 2025 ?

glossy delta
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Lawson choked so that they would consider hot swap him with Yuki

somber pollen
glossy delta
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I won’t be able to watch the race live because F1 TV doesn’t allow live video over VPN and I’m travelling

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I guess I’ll need to avoid discord for a few hours

rain nymph
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first race of 2025

somber pollen
rain nymph
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Feel bad for Hadjar

somber pollen
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mazepin also binned it on the first corner, but the race had started hahacry

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another one

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mein gott

rain nymph
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Ouch

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4 out of 6 rookies remain and Sainz out

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this circuit is trying to claim everyone

somber pollen
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The Words Of Wisdom™️

rain nymph
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water in my seat because water

somber pollen
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race 1 and we already have the best radio message of the season

rain nymph
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LMAOOOO

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Lawson just murdered Bortoletto

somber pollen
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great race

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albon p4

rain nymph
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ALBON P4 LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO LFG

copper sparrow
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man what a race

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so so so crazy

rain nymph
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Albon carry

copper sparrow
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didnt expect Alonso & Sainz to lose it

glossy delta
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Just caught up on the highlights, but not before YouTube fucking spoiled the result. Posting results like that should be illegal. Crazy opening race though

rain nymph
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Totally. Getting my hopes up for what we can expect the rest of this season

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Have big expectations for Albon as well, that P4 was wonderful

copper sparrow
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yeah great to see Williams up there

boreal stag
copper sparrow
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very rare to get a penalty reversed, surprising

rain nymph
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Helmut Marko explaining how the child not winning the championship on race debut in a VCARB is an embarrassment and failure for the team (he will still give the RB seat to them over Yuki anyways)

rain nymph
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That second seat at Red Bull just has to be cursed, how the hell have they gone through like five drivers and all are at least a second behind Verstappen

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at least Checo had some pace in him on a good day

glossy delta
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It’s been one race, let’s cut Lawson some slack here

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Though if he continues to shit the bed then I’m all aboard the hate train

rain nymph
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Max has led the championship for 1029 days

rain nymph
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AMuS is reporting that Formula 1 is in discussion of bringing back the V10. One concept is to keep current regs going until 2028, another is to keep 2026 regs in place for 3 years instead of 5 before making the move to switch to V10

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I have a feeling they will run the 2026 regs at 5 years and then toss the V10 in for 2032

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Too much money has already been spent by all the teams to prep the 2026 engines and it would be too late to abandon that or only have it for 3 years

glossy delta
soft matrix
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not to be an idiot but can someone explain the thing about these F1 engines

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and how they sound

rain nymph
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V6 engine has a weird sound already, but their turbocharger muffles the noise somewhat

soft matrix
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I know V10s have a dominant fifth harmonic, and V8s have octave harmonics

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but a 90° V6 doesn't really have musical harmonics, it's just kinda raspy and atonal

rain nymph
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It is the same process of harmonics of a V12

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just cut in half

soft matrix
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hm but V12s sound good

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or is a V12 more like two inline 6s, not two V6s?

rain nymph
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both

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but more two V6s

soft matrix
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well anyways I totally understand why people want to bring back V10s because those cars sounded amazing

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but I guess my real question is why V6s when inline 5s, inline 4s, V4s all generally sound better?

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a high revving V4 of the same displacement would sound awesome

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and could be packaged even smaller

rain nymph
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V6 was just what was agreed upon by the F1 management and engineers to work on

soft matrix
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yeah I guess my question makes the assumption that they even cared about the exhaust note when they chose to go to V6s in the first place

rain nymph
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First proposed by Renault before being pushed further by Mercedes

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I would like them to do Inline-5s, though

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Same profile as V10 at high rev ranges which is where F1 is present at all the time

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V6s could sound very V12-y, but their exhaust processes with the turbocharger in the way are weird and make it sound muffled

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there are only a few times where the F1 V6 Turbo-Hybrid has sound good and one example is the 2019 lap from Max Verstappen

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Honda V6 just sounded good that day

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There are older examples of V6s in F1 that sound decent as well

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but again you have the sport where V12s, V8s and V10s existed so they end up losing out in sound

soft matrix
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and yet I think the most powerful F1 car ever was an i4 wasn't it

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the Brabham BMW

sour tiger
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I don't want the V10s back, concerned about noise for the team members. They're doing this most weekends of the ear now, after all, instead of a third of them

glossy delta
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Don’t all garage staff wear hearing protection all the time? Haven’t seen anyone without muffs in the time that I’ve watched F1, guests included

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And noise level could be managed - noise quality is what would be the benefit

rain nymph
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yeah hearing protection is a common factor when working on basically any motorsporting series since, even managing it in the pitlane, is pretty damn loud

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V6s already have that present, it just gets muffled down better due to the turbocharger messing with the exhaust

glossy delta
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Hamilton Sprint pole

boreal stag
glossy delta
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Ok I take it back. Lawson was all hype. Getting outqualified by a rookie in a Sauber? Tf

sour tiger
glossy delta
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Because Helmut

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Idk, they haven’t made good driver decisions in a long time

boreal stag
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"anything but a jap in my Redbull"
- Probably Helmut Marko

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Red Bull adviser Helmut Marko says Liam Lawson is not delivering “what we expected” and has teased “we’ll see what happens’ over a potential mid-season swap with Isack Hadjar.

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Marko’s comments come after Tsunoda, who was overlooked for a 2025 Red Bull seat, put his name forward as a potential alternative to Lawson, claiming he would be ready to partner Verstappen from the next race in Japan.

sour tiger
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Oh good, the even greener rookie will cope well with the pressure of that second seat, as we all know

boreal stag
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Asked about Lawson’s latest disappointing outing, Marko told Sky Germany: “This is not what we expected.

“We will discuss it calmly. We still have a few drivers among them [Red Bull’s junior academy] who can recommend themselves. Thank God we are in a good position.

rain nymph
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Planet F1, but we will see what goes down

boreal stag
rain nymph
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At this point they should just put Max in the racing bull, their car might actually have a better championship shot than whatever is going on at RBR

boreal stag
copper sparrow
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Dont think thats what he meant lol

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He just say his car is just a lot more difficult to drive to explain Lawson's perf

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Think Helmut did praise Yuki for his perf in Australia which just unfortunately got fucked by their pit strategy

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Lets see how far Liam could go

somber pollen
boreal stag
visual kraken
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What will Lando do if Oscar wins WDC before him

copper sparrow
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depends on how their relationship develops this year lol

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oscar just won without being challenged haha

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nervy for lando at the end there

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one lap more and george would have passed him

visual kraken
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More like a couple of turns

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Made the race interesting

visual kraken
copper sparrow
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uh oh lewis, leclerc, and gasly might be disqualified after post race checks...

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lewis skid blocks are less than 9mm per regulations, leclerc & gasly's car underweight...

visual kraken
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Wait

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Who’s behind them again

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Stroll at 9, Ocon at 5

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Neat

copper sparrow
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if both ferraris are dsq... then ocon, kimi, albon, bearman move up 2 places, stroll and sainz move up 3 places to be in the points

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rip ferrari

visual kraken
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The car is a bit hard to set up correctly it seams

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McLaren is consistently peaky

copper sparrow
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very weird that leclerc can be faster than lewis even with a broken wing lol

visual kraken
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Lewis looked faster than Charles on Friday

visual kraken
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It flexed downward on the straights

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Also it was on the left side which helped the front left tire

copper sparrow
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yeah doesnt have the end plates to push it up

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just flexes down a lot at high speeds

visual kraken
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lol

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I was hoping for a bit more racing tbh

copper sparrow
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same

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quite boring for most of it tbh

copper sparrow
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@visual kraken confirmed all three DSQ lol

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rip ferrari

visual kraken
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Fuck

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Lmao

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Classic Ferrari moment

copper sparrow
visual kraken
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Never change, Ferrari.

boreal stag
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so mc laren contrustor title, and a fight between Oscar and Lando for Wc ?

rain nymph
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VCARB when it comes to figuring out how to ruin Yuki Tsunoda's race if someone has not already crashed into him:

boreal stag
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wait, I know that it's only two races in, but that season might actually have a plot

rain nymph
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VCARB would have had Yuki P4 and P7, literally missing out on like 17 points, and we are only 2 races into this season

visual kraken
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If Mercedes improve their car, Russell might have a chance. They have him as a clear no1 and no papaya in the way of winning

sour tiger
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I'd feel bad for Hamilton and LeCLERK but they knew what they were getting into my going Ferrari

visual kraken
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Turbulente Zeiten bei Red Bull! 😳🚨 Schon nach dem zweiten Rennen zieht der Rennstall personelle Konsequenzen. Der bislang enttäuschende Liam Lawson verliert sein Cockpit bei Red Bull und fährt stattdessen ab sofort wieder für das Schwesterteam Racing Bulls. Yuki Tsunoda wird dafür seinen Platz einnehmen und neuer Teamkollege von Max Verstappen. ...

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Lawson out, Tsunoda in according to Ralf Schumacher

sour tiger
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I can't decide what outcome I'd prefer, Yuki finally getting his overdue chance to do good or being just as bad as Liam because it's a twitchy car that only generational talents can drive (poor Liam....)

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RBR antics aren't nice, gotta have confident drivers, not undermine them.

sour tiger
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Oh, another soul for the meat grinder to destroy

glossy delta
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We need a SFFPC Formula 1 Championship 2025 Drama Calendar

rain nymph
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Formula 1 Drama Calendar Sponsored by SFF PC

glossy delta
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Brb quickly making one on my phone

sour tiger
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Wildcard: more MBS drama that could happen any month

visual kraken
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SEB IS NOT ON THE GRID ANYMORE MY GOAT 😭

"Obviously, we're losing ground to McLarens points-wise, and McLaren and, sorry Mercedes, and Seba- sorry Verstappen, but we've just got to keep pushing."

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glossy delta
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Awe, Lewis is getting old and adorable

rain nymph
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I think he needs to slow down a bit when talking, not because he talks fast but he says words out before his mind can come up with the right answer

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it has been like this for a few years now I feel like

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watching his interviews from a few years ago you can hear him say his uhhs and uhmms a lot

copper sparrow
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feels like me for real

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gotta slow it down and real think about it

clever yoke
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We laugh at Ferrari strategy, but vcarb is way worse

rain nymph
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Italian teams just suck at strategy

rain nymph
boreal stag
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so yhea apparently being Max team mate is quite stressfull

sour tiger
clever yoke
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I thought it was mad talk Alpine throwing Doohan under the bus after 6 races, apparently Red Bull is doing the "hold my beer" meme with Lawson 🤣

visual kraken
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You guys think Yuki-chan won’t get eaten up by Max?

glossy delta
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Yuki-senpai will prove the haters wrong

rain nymph
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Engineers might have some tuning and tweaking of the setup that makes it preferable to the driver, but this can be done for anyone, I feel like actual engineering of a car is more broad and the driver is selected based on if they can make the best use of their platform

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Like Ricciardo had a really good time using his particular style of driving in the Red Bull and Renault, but upon heading to the McLaren team the dynamics and engineering choices made for that car were not really suitable for him and he struggled to perform well

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Whereas Norris made stronger results because he just knows how to maximize that style of car

sour tiger
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They make car go fast however they can
It drivers job to use car to go fast

rain nymph
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basically yeah

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the engineers will engineer the best car they possibly can, then the drivers are selected based on if they can maximize that

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tweaking and tuning can be done in the pits for the specific day, but otherwise the two cars are nearly the same and you just gotta figure it out

rain nymph
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come on man this is fucking F1 not karting he is BEATING YOU IN A VCARB

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EVEN WITH HIS TEAM MAKING THE SHITTIEST STRATEGY CALLS KNOWN TO MAN HE IS STILL SHOWING BETTER RESULTS

sour tiger
boreal stag
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TLDR : Albon need to shut up and work on his skill issue

glossy delta
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I can’t wait until Suzuka in April. I’m sure I’ll have more drama to add to the Drama Calendar™

visual kraken
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Maybe Max is just goated

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Despite his late night sim racing sessions ruining his career

visual kraken
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It’s done?

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Can RBR please just tell us

visual kraken
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It’s confirmed by Canal+

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Yuki home race

clever yoke
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Sounds like an open secret at this point, hope it doesn't ruin Yuki. But I guess with those strategy calls at vcarb, he's not going to be scoring points anyway 🙃

glossy delta
rain nymph
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Tsunoda fans finally at peace

glossy delta
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Him succeeding would be a huge middle finger to Marco. That and leaving RB for another top team next year JosXD

rain nymph
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confirmed

boreal stag
copper sparrow
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damn its confirmed

clever yoke
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It's insane to think that we have become so desensitised to RB shenanigans, this isn't met with more shock.

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How bad is their man management, they keep making the same mistakes with their second driver

sour tiger
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I don't think Yuki's going to fare that much better tbh, maybe around where Williams were.
Max seems very discouraging when he speaks about the drivability of the RBR

glossy delta
soft matrix
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regardless of what happens, I don't think Red Bull will come out looking good

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either for chewing up another driver, or for overlooking Tsunoda for all this time

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that said.... looking bad never stopped Red Bull

visual kraken
sour tiger
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You assume I don't rate Liam or Yuki highly. I'm on the side of "the RBR is probably high potential but undrivable as fuck"

glossy delta
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To be clear, I’m not hating on Liam either, but it is undeniable that, regardless of the drivability of the rb, he’s underperformed and failed to live up to the hype

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I’m equally skeptical that Yuki will immediately start crushing it

boreal stag
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It’s crazy how we went from « if anyone else was in Checo’s car they wouldn’t fumble that much » to « you need to be at the peak of your game to handle a RB car »

visual kraken
glossy delta
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To be fair, Max is a driver of the century by every definition

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These cars are so close in performance that their success appears to be highly contingent on driver talent - which, to be fair, is all it’s about. It’s not an AI driving championship to determine the best constructor

clever yoke
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No doubt, Max is one in a million, objectively Liam has underperformed but giving him just 2 races is brutal.

To me, it feels quite wrong because RB are not treating drivers like humans, their decisions so far points to them looking at drivers as an asset only, like a part of the car that can be replaced on a whim.

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F1 is cut throat but I think this crosses a line on how someone should be treated in the setting of a motorsport

glossy delta
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Absolutely, Redbull is on fucking crack here. They tolerated Checo’s shite performance for two years and canning a promising rookie who’s had an unlucky wet race and a race on a track with something like a 1 second spread between all cars is madness

visual kraken
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RBR should’ve put Yuki in that seat from beginning

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Still, in excited for Japan now and will get up early to watch it

rain nymph
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Ralf Schumacher is my favorite hater in the F1 sphere

glossy delta
glossy delta
visual kraken
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Wagyu livery

rain nymph
rain nymph
glossy delta
visual kraken
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Honestly, if Yuki doesn’t deliver we can safely say that Checo wasn’t as bad as everyone thought

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And Max is goated

glossy delta
rain nymph
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They think they are Spoon 💔

narrow jackal
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yuki p6 after 1st practice, not bad

rain nymph
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fastest lap is a tenth off the fastest lap Verstappen had in FP1

glossy delta
# glossy delta
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Who is more washed?

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Danny Ric

rain nymph
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Max Verstappen says the RB is not really meshing with him today

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Not sure what this means for Yuki, but if it is just Max that is struggling with the car then this will make the gap between him and Yuki closer

rain nymph
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Tsunoda is 0.288 seconds behind Verstappen on the FP3 session times

rain nymph
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Not a good day for VCARB

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Tsunoda 0.024 behind Verstappen

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I think it is going pretty well

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Liam Lawson finally gets out of Q1 this season, but is unable to beat Hadjar despite his complaints of a seating issue

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Yuki 0.652s behind this lap

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Note that Verstappen got a tow from Alonso

rain nymph
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Q2 elimination it looks like for Yuki

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Yep

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Lawson eliminated in Q2 as well

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Crappy S1 got Yuki out :/

visual kraken
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Wtf did max do

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Fuck that guy, what a chad

boreal stag
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Redbull should just use a VCRB car for the second seat tbh

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seems like their cars is a liability to everyone but max

visual kraken
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Goat recognises goat

rain nymph
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JPGP time

rain nymph
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Antonelli doing pretty good

visual kraken
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Max pretty good

rain nymph
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Nothing ever happens

visual kraken
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Fam, woke up early for the race and the nightlight was the pitstop with max and lando

rain nymph
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literally

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actually a boring race

copper sparrow
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yeah boring

boreal stag
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average Max race

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simply lovely for him, simply boring for us

glossy delta
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Tsunoda somehow got driver of the day… I guess he did overtake twice so that’s something

visual kraken
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But kept delta small enough that overtake couldn’t happen. Masterclass

copper sparrow
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surprised yuki got dotd

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thought it might be max or kimi

boreal stag
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dude finally got what he wanted, only to realise on his home race that RB isn't all that

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It's just that Max is insanely good

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and the only driver worthy of driving that car

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everyone else ends up with a car that's worse or equal to an Alpine or an Haas

visual kraken
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It’s like flying an unstable fighter jet without flight control computers. Big gains in manoeuvrability if you can keep it up in the air

boreal stag
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You are probably not ready my dude

sour tiger
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If he says to the media in response to a question that he's ready, Marko will just chuckle and make one of his typical racist comments or something.
If he says he's not ready, Marko will start doubting him and throw him out next race

visual kraken
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Max track limits T15 which also deletes the next lap

rain nymph
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Lawson eliminated in Q1

rain nymph
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Alright time to watch some actual racing

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Formula E today LFG

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Starting grid for anyone interested in joining at 1pm CDT

glossy delta
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Interesting quali for sure

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I’d be curious to see RBR race pace cause their quali pace was shite

visual kraken
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Lando what are you doing

rain nymph
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Tsunoda good rebound from last week

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Hopefully he places well

glossy delta
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Both Gasly and Sainz qualified higher than their race pace can sustain so Tsunoda will have the potential to earn two or more places

boreal stag
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haters will say that Alonso and Lewis are washed

glossy delta
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Hamilton has potential to climb but I’m not sure if he will. He has Ferrari strategy after all

rain nymph
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Special Grade quote graphic just dropped

rain nymph
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That was a ballsy overtake from Verstappen

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good shit

somber pollen
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5s is a slap in the wrist

boreal stag
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No newey, no party for redbull

somber pollen
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my guy was dead last

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vsc just threw a spanner in this race

boreal stag
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Rip ferrari strat

rain nymph
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Bearman had a good race today

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P20 to P10

copper sparrow
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cuz of georgle transponder issue, the timings and drs issues are wack lol

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good for piastri, norris didnt do great at the end there

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i am very confused by yuki didnt get investigated at all for smashing into sainz

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while lawson get a 10s penalty for a lighter hit

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entertaining race but hope that we didnt get the technical gremlins there

rain nymph
rain nymph
glossy delta
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Is anyone else watching Quali live today?

rain nymph
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not me I got work

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But will be here for the race

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visual kraken
glossy delta
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For Lando? Why?

visual kraken
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He seems to be struggling so bad and takes it out on himself

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He can’t handle the pressure

teal portal
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he's said that's how he deals with mistakes, which isn't healthy but

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yeah

glossy delta
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Yeah that’s too bad. He has a real chance of winning WDC and if he can’t handle this little bit of pressure then he isn’t really worthy

teal portal
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he did give it a bootload of gas on that exit tbh

glossy delta
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Yeah he was trying to salvage the lap instead of saving it. It’s hard to make a decision like that in a fraction of a second

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I don’t blame him to be honest

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That said, he needs to get his mental in check

teal portal
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I missed Q2... was Yuki far from qualifying?

glossy delta
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No, Yuki was a couple of tenths from Max

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Yuki is doing well. Didn’t seem to tilt despite yesterday’s binning

rain nymph
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I knew Yuki would be promising

glossy delta
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Please be an exciting fight for pole

visual kraken
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Max is a chad

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A fucking chad

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Dutch Poilievre

glossy delta
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Lol what a comparison

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I voted yesterday in an advanced poll btw, I’ll be travelling for work during the election day so I got it over with

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Holy fk Max what a lap

visual kraken
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RBR just need to improve a bit and he’ll win WDC

glossy delta
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🐐

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Glad to see Yuki only 9 tenths behind kek

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Though tbf if Yuki did a similar double run as Max he would’ve been closer. It’s clear RBR pulled out all the stops to get Max to pole

rain nymph
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Yuki can never escape any bad luck

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He is a good driver but any time the universe sees he is doing good he gets thrown another car

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AND IT WAS GASLY WHICH IS EVEN MORE PAINFUL

teal portal
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grrr ok 5 second penalty fair nuff

rain nymph
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Oscar leads the championship now

visual kraken
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Williams looks goofy lol

rain nymph
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He did not say this kind of shit at Mercedes ⚰️ ⚰️

soft matrix
#

am I mistaken or was he definitely saying this kind of shit last year and the year before

visual kraken
#

I think he first blamed setup or car differences first half of the season but eventually admitted that he lost his mojo on Saturdays against Russell

boreal stag
#

that 8th championship ain't happening eh ?

#

forever tied to michael

glossy delta
#

Hammy boy briefly had a sliver of passion during Shanghai sprint but re-tilted himself. I’m not sure if his mental will ever recover unless Ferrari builds a rocket ship in 2026

visual kraken
#

Charles also is one of the quickest drivers around, wdc material imo

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It’s no shame to fall behind Charles in your 40s

visual kraken
#

Do you guys think that Lando can turn it around?

digital sigil
#

I think lando was upset with the direction of the car development as well

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but as it stands the title fight seems to be between max and oscar and im not complaining (big osc for wdc)

glossy delta
#

I’m shipping Piastri at this point. Lando needs to get his tilt in check first

visual kraken
#

Guess who is the no2 driver now

rain nymph
narrow jackal
#

Perez to Cadillac

copper sparrow
#

not confirmed apparently

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but would be interesting if true

#

somehow checo returned perez_what

sour tiger
#

Just need to bring back Danny for the best line up of all time

visual kraken
#

This is wild

copper sparrow
#

16 years extension bruh

sour tiger
#

So gross

boreal stag
#

More F1 for the Miami bros

rain nymph
#

Will F1 even be alive to witness its centenary?

rain nymph
#

Start delayed

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Rain

glossy delta
#

What happened to Chuck?

#

I thought I heard Jacques saying he’s out

rain nymph
# glossy delta What happened to Chuck?

Yeah he crashed into the wall during formation lap. Not sure he is going to get back in unless they have a qualifying replacement for the right-front wheel.

#

But it would knock him all the way back to the back of the grid from what I can tell.

#

Wait Oscar Piastri is a bad guy?

glossy delta
#

Weird sprint

#

But interesting to see Alonso to continue his pointless curse, Max demoted to last, and Yuki getting back into the top 10

teal portal
#

oh no RIP Leclerc

#

if the sprint is anything to go by it's going to be an eventful race

visual kraken
glossy delta
digital sigil
#

max on pole upswag

visual kraken
#

Yeah

#

But that rb looked a bit draggy

#

Can you overtake on the straight in Miami?

visual kraken
glossy delta
#

Go willuyems

visual kraken
#

Ferrari moment

#

Why are they so ass

glossy delta
#

F1 Academy race 2 just got cancelled because the track was a swimming pool

#

Sheesh

visual kraken
#

Fuck yes

#

Rain race best race

#

Wait, Max will win then

glossy delta
#

Yes we need another chaotic race. Wet races reveal true talent

glossy delta
#

Rain incoming

#

OSCARRR

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What a battle holyyy

rain nymph
#

Russell reports rain

wooden wave
#

WHERE'S THE FUCKING RAIN I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR 20M

rain nymph
#

Reflectivity showed it weakening

#

It went from a flash flood threat to spitting and now the reflectivity makes it just a light storm cloud

glossy delta
#

Man MBS is such a parasite. Keeps butting into selfies and tried to stay in every tv broadcast shot

teal portal
#

well shit that was quite a race to miss

#

so good those first 18 or so laps

glossy delta
#

Yeah those two fights Max put up against the McLarens had me at the edge of my seat

rain nymph
#

I only really felt nervous with that one turn with Ocon and Hamilton

#

It was a tight wheel-to-wheel battle with those two.

sour tiger
teal portal
#

that bit towards the end pepela

glossy delta
visual kraken
clever yoke
#

Looks like Alpine has thrown Doohan under the bus

#

Colapinto in from the next race

visual kraken
sour tiger
#

Crashgate 2.0 time

glossy delta
#

Ooof

copper sparrow
glossy delta
#

Did I miss anything in April?

clever yoke
#

I think letting Briatore back in is worse than what the teams have done to Doohan and Lawson. And that's saying a lot. 🙃

soft matrix
#

I visited Argentina back in February

#

there were tons of Alpine / Mercado Libre ads everywhere

#

surprised it took this long

#

Doohan deserved a real shot. But it was obviously inevitable

visual kraken
#

Colapinto might fuck up his 5 races

copper sparrow
#

Wait till they swap seats every other race kek

soft matrix
#

I had missed the part about his brother

#

“William Oakes, 31, of Rugby was charged with transferring criminal property on Friday, May 2 after he was stopped in the Silverstone Park area in Northamptonshire on Thursday, May 1, 2025 in possession of a large amount of cash,” a spokesperson for the Metropolitan Police told The Telegraph.

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Oakes’ Hitech team had previously been majority owned by Dmitry Mazepin, with 75% of the shares held via Bergton Management Limited, but those shares were relinquished to Oliver Oakes in February 2022. Oakes become the sole shareholder at that time, less than two weeks before Russia’s invasion of Ukraine that resulted in a number of oligarchs – including Mazepin – being sanctioned.

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Mazepin

visual kraken
somber pollen
teal portal
#

Colapinto try not to crash challenge damn

visual kraken
#

I'm watching football rn. Was cola at least fast?

#

before the crash

teal portal
#

he ate shit in Q1 swad I think first lap put him on 4th

#

Yuki had a pretty wild crash, entered super aggressive on the corner

distant beacon
#

Pain. Look at his eyes, Ferrari can't hurt him anymore.

#

P A I N

wooden wave
#

is Ferrari the Manchester United of formula 1?

#

hahahaha i wouldn't want to be a fan of that

sour tiger
#

It's nice to see them getting a break this season

visual kraken
wooden wave
visual kraken
wooden wave
#

the mourinho EL season, for example

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or the season Ole got to the finals of EL

#

the two second places in PL

wooden wave
#

i don't like how big the implication for the next season one single match will be

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but oh well, wcyd

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and unlike with mourinho, i'm not nearly confident in the chances

visual kraken
#

Bruh United shouldn’t flex about being in EL. The elite clubs want to at least make it to semi or quarter finals of UCL

wooden wave
#

nobody's flexing about EL

#

i wrote that winning the EL final has big implications for the next season

#

that's factually true

visual kraken
#

FRANZ HERMANN YOU CHAD

somber pollen
#

WHAT A MOVE

visual kraken
#

best driver on the grid, by a mile

wooden wave
#

jesus christ, his tires are on fire

#

literally

#

wtf haha

somber pollen
#

tf they stopped piastri again

soft matrix
#

hope a sprint to the end makes this interesting

somber pollen
#

idk this franz guy is mega quick

soft matrix
#

can’t believe it took til lap 60 for someone to go off overtaking there

wooden wave
#

not bad for a professional sim racist

glossy delta
#

I really liked this race

#

I found it hilarious how once max started pulling away, they didn’t show him again on the broadcast until the race was over. He pulled his chad pass on piastri on lap 1, refused to elaborate, and said “see you on the podium”

visual kraken
#

McLaren panicked seeing Charle’s pace and covered Leclerc which put Oscar in traffic

#

At that point the podium was set, was just a question of who got P2

#

Bit of regret that McLaren didn’t let Lando race Max

teal portal
#

Piastri gotta get his elbows out more

sour tiger
visual kraken
sour tiger
#

That's how F1 should work
If team is clinching the WCC, let the damn drivers race

rain nymph
#

I think now is the time we gotta start considering the possibilities

visual kraken
#

Max WDC if RBR can improve the car a bit

visual kraken
somber pollen
#

Monaco on saturday is incredible

#

tomorrow unfortunately will be PES2_BedGe

glossy delta
#

Yuki in P12. Looks like he got traffic but still sadge

#

Killer pole by Norris tho, wow

wooden wave
#

hm, no sound in thumbnail monkaThink

visual kraken
#

lol

glossy delta
visual kraken
glossy delta
visual kraken
wooden wave
glossy delta
digital sigil
clever yoke
#

You mean arranging Albon and Russell's dinner date? 🙃

rain nymph
#

Albon and Russell are definitely a secret gay couple

digital sigil
visual kraken
glossy delta
digital sigil
#

horny at ferrari would be... something... either he breaks the 'ferrari culture' or he becomes sbinotto

#

horner*

echo kernel
#

is this actually the general chat for f1 LMAOO

rain nymph
#

yep

glossy delta
echo kernel
sour tiger
glossy delta
#

Yuki P20

visual kraken
#

Yuki’s actual car

sour tiger
#

If only they didn't kick out the only other driver who prefered pointy oversteery cars

glossy delta
#

Who? Danny?

rain nymph
#

Danny left on his own accord

#

Checo sorta knew how to manage it but not really

#

Lawson was too new

#

Tsunoda just gets really unlucky imo

glossy delta
#

Yeah wasn’t sure if he was talking about Sergio because he struggled with a front biased car too

rain nymph
#

He's the closest to Max since Daniel, though

#

Also forgot that Albon and Gasly were both thrown in way too early

#

Albon was like Tsunoda and swapped in mid-season

sour tiger
sour tiger
# rain nymph Danny left on his own accord

No, talking about more recently, kicked out at Singapore last year.
I know he wasn't delivering in the VCARB but it seems like performance in that car is no indication of how you'll do in the RBR

rain nymph
#

(On simulator)

sour tiger
#

Always gonna be a ? because they never tried.
Couldn't be worse than Liam or Yuki

visual kraken
wooden wave
#

max lmao

teal portal
#

spicy

wooden wave
teal portal
#

Hulk fifth my god

soft matrix
#

not a huge fan of that whole incident

rain nymph
#

Me when I put my priority driver on hards when everyone else is on softs and get into an argument with him over radio during a high intensity scenario because I am bored

#

Big day for the like six Hulkenberg fans out there

visual kraken
#

He needs a fucking podium before he retires

#

Just some luck

#

Please

wooden wave
#

tbh he drove well until the sequence that lead to the crashout happened

visual kraken
rain nymph
digital sigil
glossy delta
digital sigil
#

verstappen wins if red bull gets their shit together (unlikely tbh), otherwise piastri

boreal stag
#

Nobody believes in Norris

#

Dude is like the Asafa Powell of F1

#

Fast in ideal conditions, but fumble hard when he’s nervous

soft matrix
#

Verstappen doesn't have the car this year

#

and it's always hard when a team falls from utter dominance, since they have to adjust to totally different tactics and gambles

#

not to mention if I were a driver I would be watching the tapes from Spain over and over to see how to get under Verstappen's skin and make him crack like that

rain nymph
#

Verstappen was fine most of that race, it was a matter related to his own team that resulted in his rage

#

Unless you want to crash into him, most of the time Verstappen will just get a little miffed and then move on later

soft matrix
#

I agree that getting put on hards was when it started

rain nymph
#

Verstappen has become a lot calmer to racing incidents on track since his teen years. He is fully wrapped around keeping himself collected and the only time he really lashes out is in response to his own team's fault or being crashed into

#

You essentially just need to rely on luck these days to actually get him to do something stupid

soft matrix
#

disagree, he got calmer because he had the breathing room to be calmer, Spain is evidence he's not as mature as circumstances allowed him to portray

rain nymph
#

Oh no he can still act in anger to things

#

But not when it comes to being tapped into or being held a little bit

#

He has been told to always keep his head down and keep pushing and it has worked well enough for so many races he just goes into that state now

soft matrix
#
  1. I wonder if Verstappen thought that he nearly lost it out of the final turn because Leclerc hit him from behind. He and Leclerc definitely touched on the straight, but he said "Leclerc rammed me" and I have only heard drivers phrase it that way when hit from the rear. This is speculation though
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mainly 2. Verstappen has made extensive use of the move where you throw the car down the inside and claim the turn on the basis that you got your nose in front. In Spain, Russell's overtake attempt was marginal at best, but that's not really the point as Verstappen has gotten away with tons of similar moves. The point is how tilted he got when the tables were turned

rain nymph
#

He did not really get rammed, though

#

Judging by the footage Leclerc just got really close

#

Possibly a tap

#

but I cannot say he was rammed into

soft matrix
#

Exactly, their wheels did touch a bit on the straight, but it was not a "ram" in the slightest - but based on radios, Max seems to have thought he was rammed

#

So that makes me think he assumed Leclerc was responsible for his error coming out of T14

rain nymph
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

soft matrix
#

but having said that he was clearly less mad about Leclerc and more mad about Russell, even though Russell was just pulling a trademark Verstappen Move

wooden wave
digital sigil
digital sigil
#

but now it takes a lot of stuff going wrong together to push him over the edge. neither is good but I'd say it's also why he's a fierce racer and a 4 time WC

#

Oscar is the exact opposite of that, so it'd be interesting to see how these two personalities clash if both can contend for titles, if Max decides to stay in the sport.

teal portal
#

just an inchident

visual kraken
glossy delta
# glossy delta
poll_question_text

2025 WDC Winner Prediction

victor_answer_votes

7

total_votes

8

victor_answer_id

2

victor_answer_text

Piastri

glossy delta
digital sigil
#

I predict

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that verstappen will get a full race ban

#

partly because I want to see how redbull falls into chaos because of it

#

partly because I want to see how isack copes with the redbull

rain nymph
rain nymph
sour tiger
rain nymph
#

ANOTHER RUSSELL FUNNY MOMENT

visual kraken
# rain nymph

Yo Oscar isn’t event that quick, just consistent with no fuck-ups. Put Max or Charles in that car and they’d run away

rain nymph
rain nymph
#

Mercedes now P2

rain nymph
#

I still do not get it

visual kraken
# rain nymph I still do not get it

He was expecting Oscar to move, it was simply a miscalculation. Maybe he took the criticism of him not being aggressive enough to heart too much and overdid it. Dunno

#

Landon has the pace, it’s all in his head honestly

rain nymph
#

Yeah but the corner ahead is a right turn and if you want to be aggressive then at this part of the track you should be going on the inside?

visual kraken
#

He knows that he did wrong

rain nymph
#

Yeah but he is an F1 driver and also one in one of the fastest cars

#

If he wants to say that he is the proper first driver he needs to keep his head in the game

#

Which adds to the confusion cause what happened in that moment that caused him to lapse judgement and go for a move on the outside when the inside is clearly open and suitable for the right-hander ahead

digital sigil
rain nymph
#

Potentially, but also Lando was moving quite a bit faster than Piastri at the same time on that

#

And Piastri never ended up making the move to the right to guard the inside earlier if he was trying to defend

#

He was still playing on the racing line

digital sigil
rain nymph
#

Usually around where they are would be when moving to somewhere in the middle just a little right of the racing line would help

#

or probably even deeper and then slowly correcting to the right of the line for braking

digital sigil
visual kraken
#

More like Sainz tier which is still great

digital sigil
visual kraken
#

Perfect race driver is wdc material and he’s lacking obviously

visual kraken
#

Fucking ruthless too

digital sigil
visual kraken
#

Yeah

#

But it’s not stopping him from winning yet

digital sigil
#

it would be great to see him contend for more championships

#

maybe he can get on top of his apparent tire management woes, then we could see more pace

rain nymph
#

Red Bull Racing lore

boreal stag
visual kraken
#

Lando’s monster drink is popular with college football QBs because it teaches throwing

rain nymph
#

Lando's drink has been so fucking weird as of lately

#

Why is it so green, and why does it turn into a lemonade-like color and transparency once left out for a bit in the heat?

#

also why is it Lando that got a flavor

#

Hamilton only got a passing mention for Monster Energy despite being sponsored

visual kraken
#

I need this

somber pollen
#

unfortunately its out of stock and being scalped everywhere sludge

glossy delta
#

Y tho? It’s shitty chinesium toys

boreal stag
#

But if you are an Adult this is what you should get

visual kraken
#

What a fight

digital sigil
#

I couldn't see the race what happened to Max?

rain nymph
rain nymph
#

on Lap 1

digital sigil
#

I nominate antonelli to be the next kvyat

soft matrix
#

Kvyat in the 2016 Russian GP was way way worse

#

Antonelli just made a rookie misjudgment and didn't have enough space to brake after dodging Lawson

rain nymph
#

Piastri used all of his skill and hairline for half an overtake in 18 laps

digital sigil
#

GABI AND ANOLSO POINTS

#

god is good

visual kraken
digital sigil
verbal hamlet
#

hello how do I get into the formula ones so I can talk to the ladies bros

soft matrix
#

watch a race

rain nymph
#

watch a race

#

I also suggest reading up on the drivers since the best way to really get invested in the series is if you enjoy one or two of the drivers on the grid

verbal hamlet
#

how do

#

I am a fan of most races

#

Car races

visual kraken
#

Let me do a bit of research. F1 lives not just from the race but actually everything around it. The drama. Lots of drama. Media and fan discussions

#

Maybe watch a season summary

#

One of the old ones from the 90s to get a feeling

#

There was some spicy stuff back then lol

soft matrix
#

F1 used to produce their own Season Review videos

#

first one was 1981, they were available on VHS through the 80s and 90s

#

in the 2000s they moved to DVD and the runtimes went from ~90min to more like 2 hours

#

and then in the 2010s the videos became like 3-4 hours long

#

the last season of that was 2017 presumably because the first season of Drive to Survive covered the 2018 season

#

these videos are blocked on Youtube now but they exist out in the internet ether

verbal hamlet
#

Do I need to start in the 90s :/

soft matrix
#

there's no right answer but the 90s is kind of the start of "modern" F1

verbal hamlet
#

I only want to know post v10 sadness

visual kraken
#

It got so bad that I stopped watching for a few years during Hamilton era. Only tuned in for a few races each season

verbal hamlet
#

it’s true but at least engine noises were brrr

soft matrix
#

I always thought the 2009-13 cars were cool

#

Drive to Survive is worth watching even if it's hardly the gospel truth

#

get a decent idea of who's who and pick out someone whose vibe you like and follow them through a race weekend

#

if you do watch DTS, I don't suggest becoming a big Ricciardo fan

verbal hamlet
#

so where watch then

silver mist
#

i think you could honestly get started just watching the newest seasons of dts

#

just go into it knowing netflix's personalities of each driver is very different from who they are in person

#

max being (from what i remember of dts) one of them

verbal hamlet
#

what’s DTS

rain nymph
#

It is a Netflix series for Formula 1 that covers certain perspectives of the season with different drivers

#

You won't get a full taste of the series, plus sometimes they twist the messages and situations that happened in the sport to drive a narrative, but it is an okay way at getting involved in F1

verbal hamlet
#

Ohhh

rain nymph
#

It is also a decent way to see what exactly made previous seasons so interesting like 2021 because simply showing you several hours of the actual races is boring compared to just watching a Netflix show about the season and getting all the highlights

clever yoke
#

DTS season 2 is a pretty good gateway

soft matrix
# verbal hamlet so where watch then

Drive to Survive is on Netflix. F1's old Season Review videos may or may not be available out there on various sorts of peer-to-peer sharing sites

verbal hamlet
#

fine I have Netflix

glossy delta
#

I wouldn’t watch DTS myself. It’s pretty cringe. But I do understand why people like it. It provides continuity into the season behind the scenes. I just watch sessions live and listen to the commentators talk about stuff related to the sport and that’s enough for me

#

Reddit (/r/formula1 and /r/formuladank) and discord (SFFPC) provide the last bit of info about F1 and its drama

verbal hamlet
#

🤨

soft matrix
#

I think DTS has less utility the more familiar you become with F1

#

but I still think it's a decent entry point for someone F1 curious

verbal hamlet
glossy delta
verbal hamlet
#

I was going to watch but then people keep giving new suggestions PepeHands

boreal stag
rain nymph
#

they should make DTS more gay

boreal stag
rain nymph
#

Something something but Max drove right in front of my truck

sour tiger
verbal hamlet
#

f1 movie pretty good car go brr

rain nymph
#

Verstappen to Uma Musume soon

visual kraken
#

Fucking chad

somber pollen
#

death

#

taxes

#

max

#

wouldve been cool for lewis to get pee wan but

boreal stag
#

The British getting cucked by a former colony and a Dutch

teal portal
#

valid

glossy delta
#

Why is he so madge

teal portal
#

great practice results, couldn't deliver in quali

verbal hamlet
#

nyoom

rain nymph
#

Fun Fact: Brad Pitt is the first person to technically drive a Formula 2 car at Circuit of the Americas

#

COTA never hosts any Formula 2 races, but Brad Pitt drove the modified F2 car that runs under APX GP for footage for the F1 movie

verbal hamlet
#

He drove an f1 car for the lols on a closed track too

tawdry idol
wooden wave
#

i love rainy chaotic races

somber pollen
rain nymph
#

Stroll P3

#

Stroll P2 is on the table

wooden wave
#

Hulk might catch him

boreal stag
#

wtf, what the hell did I missed ?

rain nymph
#

If we let that German get a podium it will be the end of all of us!!!

boreal stag
#

ho yikes, Max couldn't control his car

wooden wave
#

and lost like eight places

#

someone crashed into lawson who spu out of track

#

hadjar rammed into antonelli from behind (pause)

#

hadjar spun out and antoneli retired

boreal stag
#

You can always count on rain to make things interesting I guess

wooden wave
#

went from sunny to torrent to chill again

#

all within ten minutes

boreal stag
#

Also, the trophies are made with Legos

#

Ferrari needs to relaunch their whole squad

wooden wave
#

Russellerina

rain nymph
#

PLEASE HULK

#

JUST MAKE IT 10 MORE LAPS

wooden wave
#

lol Haas with that coordinated pirouette

rain nymph
#

Hulk podium is happening

somber pollen
#

FINALLY

#

MOM I WAS HERE

wooden wave
#

does he have the longest streak not on podium?

#

or rather before reaching a podium

rain nymph
#

238 races without a podium

digital sigil
#

NICO

#

HULKENBERG

#

PODIUM

soft matrix
#

wonder who holds the Most points without a podium record now

#

Grosjean I think

rain nymph
#

no win, but his highest finish is like P2

soft matrix
#

oh duh

#

must’ve mixed up stats

#

Sutil? I’m trying

rain nymph
#

Second place is 18 points with no podium

wooden wave
#

my coach

rain nymph
#

And now first place cause

#

Hulk is off the list

#

Yuki Tsunoda is in ninth and is the highest on the list for active driver

soft matrix
#

second place is 18pts with no podium? that doesn’t make sense

#

unless I misunderstand

boreal stag
#

The winners’ trophy, is comprised of 2,717 LEGO bricks, weighs over 2kg and all four trophies – with the 2nd place, 3rd place and winning constructor also built of LEGO, took a team of seven builders over 210 hours to create.

“It's probably the closest that F1 has to something like the FIFA World Cup [trophy]. So to get to do that is pretty cool,” Litorp Johnson told Autosport

#

Hulk getting something special for his first and maybe only podium

soft matrix
#

Adrian Sutil got 124pts over his career and no podiums

rain nymph
#

Nevermind I think it looks like he has 188

#

nope he has 18

#

so maybe

#

Marc Surer?

#

Nope

#

Yeah it is literally Sutil

soft matrix
#

Tsunoda has 101 career points, fewer than Sutil

boreal stag
#

was there a season where most drivers were so inconsistent that the world champion never won a race ?

rain nymph
#

WAIT

soft matrix
#

well good thing Yuki is in a top car now, for a clear shot at getting that first podium /s

rain nymph
#

Okay I am just close

#

BUT

#

Paul Di Resta is 2nd behind Sutil

#

124 vs 121

soft matrix
#

Keke not Nico

#

obv

wooden wave
#

Sauber has outscored Redbull 35-29 in the last 4 races combined

boreal stag
#

Lego FTW

teal portal
#

Piastri is proper pissed lol

#

what a race

rain nymph
#

Piastri said "if I say anything now I will be banned for the rest of the year"

teal portal
rain nymph
#

Charles Leclerc upon experiencing mixed conditions:

visual kraken
#

Charles is not good in the wet

#

so cute

rain nymph
#

He is so short

visual kraken
teal portal
rain nymph
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what do THESE colors remind you of??

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Kimi Raikkonen's Q3 Sector 1 and 2

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Also first time I have seen official F1 twitter account recognize the subreddit

verbal hamlet
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huge

slim shore
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sour tiger
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Horner to Ferrari next

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“I consider 2021 to be Lewis’ title”

copper sparrow
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that.. was totally unexpected on a wednesday

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there was rumours before but thought it wont happen

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huh wait

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Laurent Mekies will take over as CEO of Red Bull Racing

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not TP?

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or is it in Red Bull, CEO = TP?

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ah they have a TP, Alan Permaine will be the new TP

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Mercedes CEO green lights signing of Max via 100mil exit clause

sour tiger
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Dunno if I'll try again

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Lol

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Pick it up when you get a job in Germany

sour tiger
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Let me crash at your place in Ireland

sour tiger
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I don't have a placeswad

sour tiger
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Meh, that just gives toto the ability to make a better offer, max might still wait

rain nymph
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tl;dw - Max Verstappen is the highest on this new record, but Top 5 for all-time vScore would include drivers who do not make sense as top drivers of all time because '80s and '90s F1 is unpredictable and unreliable as fuck

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It does at least do a better job of measuring current F1 from like the past 10 years

sour tiger
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That does not look right

rain nymph
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Yeah this is because the primary points pool comes from position starting and position finishing along with how many positions gained or lost

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Plus a bonus set of points for a top driver performing like a top driver

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So Max has been at the top by managing the same performance as usual and then recently had more gains because he hustles a Red Bull up to the top spots

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George Russell is similar

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Alexander Albon gets his points because his scenario is the opposite where it is him hustling a bottom-field car far higher

sour tiger
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Need at least two dimensions in orders to accurately chart drivers

rain nymph
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The beauty of the vScore is that it currently rates Mick Schumacher as a better driver than his dad

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Mick Schumacher fans finding a way to tell people that he did in fact live up to the family name

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rain nymph
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When you accidentally become important at work

sour tiger
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Important? Bro expected to become Ferrari TP back in 2023 when Binotto was canned (he was the deputy)
It's not like he's just been boss of a junior team and nothing else kek

rain nymph
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I wonder if Apple will just use the leash that SkySports has or go about their own way and have their own commentators