signatureedition-discussion

[trail coral]

compared to the s12, vmse build is much much better for sure.

[viral lily]

idk whatever the first ones they came out w

its black with light blue and silver

[trail coral]

ahh the greek god ones with omron 20m

i had that and the phantom ( gm 8.0 )

[viral lily]

yk HM80 sikakeyb

shi nvm sorry im fried

[trail coral]

vmse is a massive upgrade in all fronts tbh except for the weight ig. tech is also much better. optical switches, so you won't have click issue

[trail coral]

yea ik

wooting 80he competitor. i have wooting 80he

[viral lily]

using a logi g pro x tkl rn but may switch up in future

lowk want diff switches too smt softer/quieter

[trail coral]

HE switches have quite a lot of functionality, like socd, rapid trigger, actuation point, DKS, mod tap, etc.

HE - hall effect ( magnetic switches )

[viral lily]

i want the customization of the hm80

possibly in the future

[trail coral]

its either that or wooting 80he. however, wooting 80he has quite a bit of complaints.

[viral lily]

like what?

[trail coral]

there are quite a few people complaining keyboard freezing with 8000hz

some even at 1000hz

you have to unplug and plug it back for the keeb to function again

[viral lily]

yikes

how many?

[trail coral]

it happened to me once when i first got it with launch FW, but it hasn't happened since. i have no idea if it is a QC issue or a mix of bad hardware and software. i don't have a number, but you see their discord support is filled with this issue.

i wouldn't recommend wooting 80he until they respond and resolve this issue.

[viral lily]

alright

yk the wallhack sp-004

[trail coral]

sp 004 yes.

[viral lily]

i have it and its nice but its also the first glass pad ive had so idk if theres better

[trail coral]

i daily glass pads. rn superglide and skypad 3.0. i placed an order for the BEAST pad from tekussi(spelled it incorrectly)

[trail coral]

there are different types of glass pads. it really ranges from slow to fast.

[viral lily]

do u rotate in between them?

[trail coral]

no i use both of them because i am an elbow aimer

[viral lily]

im really just a kid bro im 18, working minimum wage, but getting spoiled by parents

i am trying to get the best stuff while they still spoil me before that runs out

they said after i get associates they will get me magnus xl desk

is there better sit-stand desk?

i heard maybe grovemade?

[trail coral]

😅 i mean my opinion is to upgrade if you really feel like you have issues with your existing setup.

the sp004 is a fast pad. well, i think it has the lowest initial friction out of all glass pads, but loses in dynamic friction to the beast pad

[trail coral]

no idea. i needed an L sit stand table, so got some chineese one from amazon

[viral lily]

no becauase like im really into fortnite and i wanna i am trying to make a better fitting setup for me

tbh its chilling rn except the mouse and mic

actually mic is fine i just want better

[trail coral]

i too main fn.

[viral lily]

peak?

how many times unreal

[trail coral]

well, fn ranked does not speak skill whatsoever. don't know how many times, but ig the best way to put it is, i can get to unreal when i want to play or if play decide to spend time in ranked.

[viral lily]

champs?

[trail coral]

my recommendation is to optimize keybinds first to anyone starting out fn.

[trail coral]

i am unreal in reload, didn't play regular br.

[viral lily]

i switched my binds a few months ago

gettin good again tho

okok ion be playing reload

[trail coral]

what server do you play on?

[viral lily]

nae

[trail coral]

ahh i play central. you plan on playing tournaments?

[viral lily]

go dms this is the vmse chat 😭

[astral elm]

The beast has been mentioned

[high kindle]

this one isnt good guys? The Skypad 4.0

[errant mirage]

Good pad

Using rn

But this is more speed-type so if you are starting out with glass, pulsar superglide could also be a good choice

If limited of budget

If not,go for skypad 004

[high kindle]

Im not into gaming anymore, just coding, but was looking into get the drop times right to get an vmse eheh, very nice setup you got there!

[astral elm]

Honestly it'll ultimately come down to your preferences in speed and design

I'm currently using the Pulsar Superglide Aimerz Edition, but I was previously maining the GLSSWRKs Kazemi

[errant mirage]

Both good pads

Except superglide 1 has that coating issue in long term

Kazemi is really good with smooth surface as a user of both

[astral elm]

That is why it has sat in storage for the majority of it's lifespan 😅

[astral elm]

I'm currently waiting patiently for this mousepad to be shipped

[errant mirage]

ahhh well same here

[errant mirage]

heard it was the fastest pad

i'll wait for your review

[astral elm]

That is the main reason why I decided to buy it

[astral elm]

[errant mirage]

You use finalmouse right?

[astral elm]

I use a lot of mice 😅

[astral elm]

But yes I'm currently using a Finalmouse Ultralight X (Aceu Edition)

[errant mirage]

0.0

not quite a mouse collector so that's interesting

[viral lily]

aside from the vmse this is what i was thinking of getting since my sl12 started buggin

how is it in comparison?

[dark fulcrum]

Is the black version vmse going to be release again?

If the white version sold out it will be gone for good?

[viral lily]

ppl be sayin nah

smt about them meeting a quota for the black, then having to meet a quota for white next and whatever else after

[dark fulcrum]

I wish vmse wont be discontinued especially the black version

Been trynna get the black version but I was late

[viral lily]

yea id kill to get me a black one but ima just get whatever they drop next prolly white

[dark fulcrum]

My favourite colour isn’t white I won’t be wasting my own money to get other colour unless it’s black

[viral lily]

...

white wouldnt fit my setup but i just need a better mouse rn since my sl12 broke

[dark fulcrum]

Based on your preference

If your desperate for a new mouse then go for it

I’m sure you’ll enjoy the software and the quality of it

[viral lily]

i fw this server hard cause everyone in here is passionate about their stuffs

[dark fulcrum]

I can tell

[viral lily]

ill nejoy quality of it if i get the white but either way i will be getting black in the future

i also heard there were more problems with the black ones that they fixed in white or smt so 🤷‍♂️

[dark fulcrum]

I tried to look on ebay but most of it are second hand and I won’t know what happens to the mouse unless I use it

[viral lily]

yeah im only not buying resellers cause i want the like 4year warranty that razer offers

[dark fulcrum]

That’s way more worth than buying second hand

[viral lily]

exactly so ima pray next drop 🤞

[dark fulcrum]

Plus ebay sellers are not really reliable sometimes

[viral lily]

if not ill keep using this boof ahh g305 till i get a vmse

[dark fulcrum]

Well I hope they will continue releasing the black version of it but with more stocks

[viral lily]

yeah hope so too but i asked around here and they said if they were going to release black again it wouldnt be for a whileeeee

[dark fulcrum]

So you’re saying they’re going to continue releasing the black version soon?

[viral lily]

im saying youd hv to wait like years or at least 1yr+ on it coming back

is what ive heard

then again none of us work at razer

and they probably are getting a bunch of ppl wanting black back out

so who knows

[dark fulcrum]

I hope they change their marketing strategies though like people can be able to purchase their product whenever they need a new mouse it’s never out of stock when someone is looking for a new mouse neither cheap nor expensive

[dark fulcrum]

That’s madly long

Cause vmse is actually a great mouse

[viral lily]

idk i understand it from a business perspective of like them only selling in small quantity drops makex the value of it seem more understandable ig

[dark fulcrum]

I’ve seen the reviews of it is actually pretty good

[viral lily]

even tho the mouse itself is like $180 and then theres almost $100 worth of other stuff sold separatley like skates, 8k hz dongle etc.

[viral lily]

yeah same and i think id fw razers actuation speed over sl12

[errant mirage]

you can still get rma if you have the receipt

[viral lily]

yeah i was a just a lil teenage boy when i got it ion hv no receipts for mys etup

[errant mirage]

[viral lily]

except ffor my laptop

ima start keeping all tech receipts in a drawer instead of trashing them since im tryna max out my setup

parents said when i get associates theyre gana get me magnus pro xl

then ima max that shit out from there

[dark fulcrum]

Because of its price they have to have more stocks other than releasing a little bit of quantity I’m pretty sure a lot of gamers these days would purchase good quality mouse with an expensive price as long as if it’s build in good quality,sensors and design they wouldn’t be a problem for razers economy

[viral lily]

yeah but its hard when theres competition like beast x mini where ppl can save a lil money for the same quality persay

[dark fulcrum]

Gamers can purchase anytime yk

[dark fulcrum]

Eventually, razer will always take over if they had vmse sell everyday

Look at how many people are trying to get vmse

[viral lily]

i dont think they can sell vmse everyday for some reason i think if they did theyd have to sell it individually instead of with the dongle and stuff and that wouldnt be as profitable

[dark fulcrum]

Make sense

Just like ninjutsu sora v2

[viral lily]

do they post the drops on here or twitter first?

[dark fulcrum]

I’m pretty sure both at the same time

[viral lily]

6 minutes to buy is quite a rush

[dark fulcrum]

You gotta ask @errant mirage

That is what I’m saying

And I don’t even know how many quantities can you order from it

[errant mirage]

just look at discord tbh

[viral lily]

yeah when do the quant. # get released

[errant mirage]

#signatureedition-announcements is enough

you get the drop dates few days before

[viral lily]

do the stores in person get vmse's?

[dark fulcrum]

How many quantity can you purchase though?

[viral lily]

im just gana be buying one unless i can get multiple because im ngl i like reselling profitable stuff

and for some reason reselling this mouse makes a decent profit margin

[dark fulcrum]

It depends tbh

[errant mirage]

yes offline stores do get stocks

you can call them and place an order

[viral lily]

even white, recent sales on stockx have been around 340-360

[errant mirage]

not sure.
there isn't quite a reason to get more than 1 so

i don't think there is?

[viral lily]

like day of drop?

[dark fulcrum]

Mane.

If that’s the case I think I might order from the store

[viral lily]

depends on the colorway they drop, if black comes out again i am most def getting 2 just to resell one cause the pricing on black resales are od

@errant mirage can you preorder in anyway or do you have to call day of drop

[errant mirage]

bro i'm also quite new

ask the moderators

i can't confirm the answers at this point

but seeing from the last drop, i guess you have to call on the day of drop

[viral lily]

what is that emoji

[kindred eagle]

Can’t hurt to call a store and ask

[viral lily]

ye they said to call day of drop and see if they have in inventory

[sweet dagger]

It is : Whygod

I think

[viral lily]

scalping?

[viral lily]

without scalpers there is no secondary market for people who missed the initial sale?

its risky and takes some effort, charging the markup compensates for that

[kindred eagle]

i can see the argument for both. that's true to an extent, but those scalpers also take away from the average person there for the initial sale.

at the very least for those who work through the drop times, there is a market of people selling it used/open box for cheaper or msrp (albeit rarer, i do see at least a couple listing on ebay)

[native hamlet]

hello the vmse is better than viper v3 pro ?

[viral lily]

i guess there are two different perspectives.

scalpers allow precise supply/demand trends to be followed. by emphasizing this demand it could signal to the retailer to produce more and overall it creates a location where people can resell

i understand the other perspective as well considering consumer harm by making it less accessible, even if minimally. i get that consumers can blame the companies saying they aren’t producing enough n stuff

i get they don’t add productive value but by creating a secondary market to satisfy unmet demand, it provides consumers access to scarce products when retailer supply falls short

[river nexus]

Just arrived

[kindred eagle]

right, and naturally collectors items will be scalped. but i don't think we can suggest it's minimal considering we don't know how much stock per drop scalper scoop up

[viral lily]

ok true Ive never scalped before this would be my first time if the black vmse happened to rerelease. I have no clue how many people bought with the sole intention of reselling but I doubt it would be too high considering the gaming fanatics around the world keeping up with razer

[kindred eagle]

till we have stats it probably isnt worth us speculating on. in the end its your mice, do what you want with it

[floral surge]

finally

[river nexus]

Loving it so far

[uncut inlet]

that lighting from the pad makes it look like it's 3D printed

[astral elm]

Overall it’s really good, but in my opinion the switches that they’ve decided to use on the Ultralight X are kind of holding it back

[astral elm]

Don’t get me wrong I love using binned huano blue shell pink dot switches, but you would’ve thought that they’d switch to optical switches

[astral elm]

But they seem to be performing well

[astral elm]

Damn I hope that they consider doing another black batch of the rvmse in the future 😔

[grim pawn]

Do u prefer it over the vv3pro or don’t kno yet?

[trail coral]

it will give out eventually tho.

doesn't matter if you know how to solder ig.

[astral elm]

That’s why I’m enjoying my D2F-01Fs

[next bloom]

what pad is that?

[steel cloak]

Looks like the Firefly v2 pro in white

Aka the most beautiful mousepad ever

[next bloom]

[river nexus]

Only played a game so far and tbh i did. The clicks and scroll wheel feel better. Idk if its cus of the material

[south schooner]

Just got mine a couple hours ago. Mouse feels fantastic

[next bloom]

Yea. very amazing mouse to use. now, Ignore my v2pro kek

[south schooner]

i love it perfect shape. My maya x and xlite v2 on the bench

[next bloom]

My v3pro is otw too. just bought it because of the color red not sure about its gaming feels yet.

[south schooner]

OH you got the sentinels one!?

[next bloom]

yes. Preordered it.was just shipped the other day. I thought it will be shipped on Dec first week.

That was my backup plan coz I thought I wont win rvsme

[south schooner]

amazing mouse you'll love that as well. its just obviously bigger but it feels solid. i had a white one but ended up selling it

[next bloom]

Now i feel like selling my v2 pro. kek

Hopefully! i will like it.

[south schooner]

its a cool mouse to have anyways especially that red color

[river nexus]

Yea im keeping mine incase i need to be swapping out when my battery dies

[next bloom]

yea i wont sell my v3 pro that's coming. just my previous v2pro white

[south schooner]

yeah you gotta keep the v3

[errant mirage]

I have both, and personally vv3p fits my grip more

I guess it's due to my hand size

[elfin pagoda]

I am not a professional in terms of PC and gaming but if that's a mouse pad then I want it.

[errant mirage]

honestly for the case in our country, I see a LOT of unopened resells going on

there is even a dude who bought 7 for all scalpin

including the sold ones, in a single resell app i saw over 30 unopened white sell

so scalping is a great issue

this is why we have to limit 1 per person

[marble tusk]

What’s up the fast af drops

[next bloom]

oof.

[pallid bridge]

Thanksgiving weekend surprise!

[next bloom]

[pulsar lichen]

Damn razer milking tf out of it

[arctic mulch]

Yeah fr i wanted the black one waiting 2 months and now the drop 3 times this ugly one in a month wtf

[marble tusk]

I mean the black one already hit it’s production limit so kinda make sense

[brave harness]

How come?

[tranquil barn]

How s the vmse vs viper v2 pro? I d like to get it

And how much will it be?

[brave harness]

Did they have a limited amount in mind when dropping the black one?

[next bloom]

Very sleek and great at gaming fps games in my case. better feels than my v2 pro.

around 300+$

[tranquil barn]

Ouh

Still 300? Lol

[next bloom]

did it ever have a sale price?

[tranquil barn]

Have no idea

As a student, I didnt have money for it

Now im not a student anymote

But I ve bought a laptop, a phone, a car... only this month

Yeah, I wont get it now either

[next bloom]

talk about the timing of events lol

[tranquil barn]

I mean I d love to have it but...

If it was only in February...

[viral lily]

im not a very trusting guy

[river nexus]

I wish they made a viper v3 se. The material on vmse feels great. But i perfer the shape and sensorl of viperv3

[void heart]

did they announce what day the drop is this weekend? Just saw the instagram post

[kindred eagle]

30th

[thorny tiger]

Looking forward to picking mine up from the post office and this was from the last drop…. Lol!

[marsh cipher]

will the vmse get the new features from the viper v3 pro as firmware updates or no? idk what to expect but surely u dont need the latest sensor for the stuff like built in accel. thats all software

[honest pumice]

I'm an esports pro looking for the best that's why I chose the RVMSE. I am in my gaming prime so I need a mouse thay can keep up with that and won't break down when the prize money is on the table. I'm greedy I need all that esports prizes money and razer helps me get the bag and keep getting them. God bless the rvmse.

[errant mirage]

we're getting 13377 units of white vmse in total

like the black version right?

[errant mirage]

so we got 6 more drops to come in future am i right?

[marble tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/sentinels-zekken-whip-gif-17026610403117297421

[karmic osprey]

is the black one also going to be in stock on the 30th?

[clear parrot]

lowkey wish razer had different color ways or collections like a baby blue vmse would be insaneee

[errant mirage]

and that will be 400 dollars sir

[clear parrot]

money is no object we will all be 6 feet under might as well do something or buy something you like lol

[errant mirage]

wdym by all 6 feet under?

[south schooner]

I think he means we'll all be dead in the end

[slender drift]

Whens the next vmse drop?

[steel cloak]

30th

https://x.com/razer/status/1861802357786284206?s=46&t=bW706seylYjoFJm-7jYEZQ

R Λ Z Ξ R (@Razer) on X

Here's some exciting news—the next drop for the Razer Viper Mini Signature Edition is happening this weekend: https://t.co/FzhboYw5Ba

Join our Discord server now to know exactly when the drop for this iconic gaming mouse goes live. #vmse

Twitter · Nov 27, 2024, 4:00 PM

[marble tusk]

If I customize my mouse, does that void the warranty?

Like painting it

[errant mirage]

Yes

[next bloom]

so yea after a few games my vsme dongle having delays. so I play wired

What seems to be the problem here

[kindred eagle]

interference or drivers probably

or skill issue?

[steel cloak]

I think it’s the latter. I prescribe a kraken V4 pro

[errant mirage]

do you use it on 8k or 4k?
then it might be because the game does not support or lag with that

do you have any other bluetooth or wireless device, or a router placed nearby?
the other devices could intervere with the wireless connection of the vmse

and sometimes it can just lag for no reason, so try disconnecting and connecting again+ pc reboot

[safe spoke]

I think I saw recent tests that showed almost all the wireless 8k mice that can be plugged in performed better plugged in.

But like not everyone has a system that can handle higher than 1k. And then you get into games that may not support more than 1k. And system optimization.

[viral lily]

what’s important when it comes to running a higher polling rate? i hv a i9 14700HX and 4080 do u think i cld run 8k?

[safe spoke]

It doesn’t sound like your hardware would be a hinderance
. Calypto’s Latency Guide can give you an idea of what people are looking into. But it doesn’t cover windows 11. And some of the stuff in it is kind of extreme.

[next bloom]

my phones are on table

[safe spoke]

But like even if you run 1k. The newer mice have better sensors. Like they have less drift. Meaning it’s easier to train muscle memory.

[next bloom]

danggg

lool

[next bloom]

my barracuda x chroma just arrived yesterday

[kindred eagle]

also bear in mind that a good number of games won't play nice with 8k polling (jitters) because their game engines have issues with it

[next bloom]

I see. I only saw the problem last night. will try again later if it'll work

[safe spoke]

So true. Lots of games just can’t handle it.
Also New sensors perform better at like 800+dpi.

[naive cave]

so they are really not making the black verson anymore?

so sad

[south schooner]

2k 1600dpi is the sweet spot IMO

[honest pumice]

It's not that sweet if it ain't 8k it ain't gaming

[next bloom]

sell or keep 🤔

[frosty violet]

its not magnesium, get rid of it before your hand gets cancer or it falls off or you get a strange skin problem , dont risk using plastic mice please only use magnesium mice.

[kindred eagle]

I use a plastic mouse what will happen to me

[frosty violet]

Overexposure to microplastics poses a significant health risk. These tiny particles can infiltrate your system when they become airborne and are inhaled, such as when they shed from plastic objects like your mouse. Once inhaled, microplastics—or even smaller nanoparticles—can enter the bloodstream through the lungs, potentially leading to clogged arteries and increasing the risk of heart attacks and strokes. This is a recently proven fact.

[kindred eagle]

well guess I need to invest in titanium key caps too

[frosty violet]

this is a picture of my keyboard with titanium keycaps -

Just a heads-up—there are ongoing studies about the risks of microplastics from plastic mice. We don't know the full extent of the risk yet, but it's something to be aware of. On the other hand, magnesium mice are a safer choice since magnesium is a natural material essential for our body's survival. Don't risk your life over this—just go magnesium!

Plus, plastic often feels cheap and can cause skin problems. There are people who actually need to wear gloves at their workplace to touch a plastic mouse because it causes their skin horrible reactions its actually called "computer mouse dermatitis". The doctor will diagnose a patient with this condition after suggesting the use of a glove and stoppage of the condition occurring after that.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-00650-3?form=MG0AV3

[errant mirage]

But. . . . But vmse's bottom is plastic!

[frosty violet]

The bottom of the RVMSE mouse, which is made of plastic, does not actually come into direct contact with surfaces, so the risk of particles flecking off is minimal. This is because the plastic parts on the underside of the mouse are typically the feet or pads that glide smoothly over surfaces with little friction. In contrast, the top of a plastic mouse, where your hand constantly makes contact and creates friction, is more likely to shed microplastics. Therefore, while the RVMSE has plastic on the bottom, the design minimizes the risk of particle release, making it a safer option.

[errant mirage]

I mean, you're not WRONG, but. . .

[uncut inlet]

that looks so goooooood

congrats

whoops, wrong ping

I meant to reply to the sentinel V3 pro

[steel cloak]

True. Shiny

[uncut inlet]

they should make a DAV3 hyperspeed with that color

[errant mirage]

when are we getting this

[steel cloak]

Closest we have is the faker edition DAV3 pro

[uncut inlet]

Sentinel clears tbh

[steel cloak]

Real

[next bloom]

I would like to open it

[uncut inlet]

honestly if it were me I'd use it daily

[slender drift]

What times the drop tomo?

[steel cloak]

8 am Pacific time

[errant mirage]

1am in my timezone

[south schooner]

OPEN IT

[viral lily]

drop gonna be online too tho?

not just at those locations

[kindred eagle]

yes itll also be on razer.com

[viral lily]

yo tell em to make it black again

[high kindle]

how many hours left until the drop 4?

it already did r? this PT time bugged my mind :((((((

[next bloom]

around less than 7 hours

[karmic osprey]

does this mouse have the 35k dpi sensor the v3pro has ?

[steel cloak]

No, 30k

[karmic osprey]

i see, ty for the response

[crimson brook]

does this mean no online drop?

[steel cloak]

It will also be available on razer.com

[crimson brook]

at <t:1732982400:t> ?

[steel cloak]

8 am pacific so yea I think if you’re eastern

[crimson brook]

im UK based 😅

ty

[nova veldt]

did they not mention the timing? coz i dont see it on the post

[nova veldt]

ah

[errant mirage]

2 hours and 23 minutes left

[worn kindle]

18:00 or 19:00 at Moscow?

[next bloom]

you tryna get one?

[errant mirage]

ye

[rigid patrol]

how many on this online drop this time

[next bloom]

goodluck

[errant mirage]

thx

[high kindle]

I need one!!!

[next bloom]

be readyyy

[balmy ermine]

there was a drop today?

also follow this : #signatureedition-discussion message

good luck

[sharp anchor]

30 mins left...

[next bloom]

[lime cedar]

only white drop?

[warm cedar]

ye

[uncut inlet]

yeah, the black VMSE will no longer be made

[viral lily]

stockx 📈📈📈

[errant mirage]

i will hate my life

[rigid patrol]

how many on this drop for the online store

[errant mirage]

if my card purchase gives error again

[uncut inlet]

no idea

[viral lily]

ima b 🪨 hard if i get ts

[errant mirage]

guys what do i prepare for the drop

[uncut inlet]

I believe it will go through this time 🙏

[errant mirage]

i'm playing dramatic music for extra buff

[high kindle]

we got this milk

[clever island]

Does anyone know any cool custom grip tape compatible with vv3pro

[viral lily]

site not loading now

[nova folio]

i can access

[viral lily]

fixed

it actually gana drop at 11 or little after?

[twin bluff]

1 min

[rigid patrol]

w

got it

[warm cedar]

got it

[lime cedar]

got it

easy gg

[next bloom]

there's a free gift includeeeed?

[high kindle]

GOT IT LETS GOOOO

[glad wave]

bought four (i got the black already, so one is for my brother, and the rest is to resell)

[errant tangle]

DUBNATION

[viral lily]

hell yeah

[twin bluff]

Whats this

[viral lily]

smart scalper

[errant tangle]

viper v3 pro sen edition

[next bloom]

we'll see soon

[glad wave]

idrc, ppl are the reason this sells out quick 😭 so yeah idc money is money

[quaint kiln]

yes i got mine!!

[fallow narwhal]

finally got one paypal glitched last timew

[next bloom]

too many wins today.

[smoky oyster]

https://rzr.to/vmse-white

[next bloom]

[smoky oyster]

Seems like something went wrong with the link in the announcement

[stray pecan]

How many units did they make

[viral lily]

i wanted to do it but funds little low rn no hate

[void heart]

aquired lets go

[viral lily]

its still available tbh i didnt have to do allat to cop the mouse 😭

[uncut inlet]

it's still available, go for it

[errant mirage]

oh my god

[smoky oyster]

[uncut inlet]

I would get it but me broke

do they even ship where I live?

[viral lily]

real

[errant mirage]

i literally went through a entire drama episode

[high kindle]

you got it milk?

[thick geyser]

Got Black & White now!✌️

[errant mirage]

yes though

so hear me out

[high kindle]

lets go!

[errant mirage]

i had 3 dollars more in my card

and it kept refusing and cancelling my order due to less money

i ask my friend to put in 20 dollars in my card

[next bloom]

easiest drop still going?

[smoky oyster]

ayyyy

[errant mirage]

and i got it

[viral lily]

whats the razer mystery gift that comes along w it

[smoky oyster]

Still says it's available here

[uncut inlet]

W

[smoky oyster]

[steep girder]

I got it

What’s the gift

[smoky oyster]

I don't know actually

[next bloom]

already my second one

[smoky oyster]

Is there one?

[next bloom]

got it too

[viral lily]

is it gana be stock of shi not selling well?

thatd make sense

[smoky oyster]

Out of stock

For me now

[last niche]

website crashed

[next bloom]

already sold out

[last niche]

[next bloom]

easiest drop fr

[smoky oyster]

tbf, it did last 7 minutes this time

[viral lily]

ong

[next bloom]

why yall missed

[pulsar trellis]

YOUR LINK DOESNT WORK

[last niche]

fuck it

ill just buy it from a scalper atp

[viral lily]

BROTHA NOOOO

[last niche]

[viral lily]

patience

[next bloom]

Dang this was the easiest drop

[viral lily]

think abt the warranty

pricing still sucks but the warranty tho

[nova veldt]

guys, whats the mystery gift?

[high kindle]

how much were available? 1337?

[next bloom]

im more excited with the mystery gift lol

[viral lily]

any guesses?

[native folio]

its a gift

[warm cedar]

how long is it

[native folio]

3 years right?

[high kindle]

do you guys know the location is shipped?

[nova veldt]

yea like, whats the GIFT 😠

[steep girder]

i think it might be a sneki plush

[hollow stag]

Oh hai!

[nova veldt]

dont tell me its 25k razer silver

[steep girder]

it is?

[nova veldt]

the other time it was something like that

[errant mirage]

another vmse

[errant mirage]

so lucky this time

[nova veldt]

i m sorry but thats never gonna happen LUL

[errant mirage]

lets just dream, fellas

[next bloom]

It's destined to be an early Christmas gift lol

[viral lily]

yeah

[errant mirage]

-1.5 years military

[viral lily]

that’s atrocious

wish i had a country i wanted to fight for

[gilded saddle]

Oof

Fair

[balmy ermine]

make sure to check your packages

im included as a gift plus a brisket i cooked 5 days ago

/j

[uncut inlet]

congrats to everyone that managed to snag a VMSE

can't wait to see some photos (I'm jealous)

[severe ocean]

asd

[supple jolt]

when are they going to drop both the white and black models at the same time?

[errant mirage]

definately going to ping luxivo for photo

[uncut inlet]

😭

[hardy kernel]

Whats the point of making viper SE so hard to obtain? They obviously know people are scalping them. At this point im have to try the beast x mouse soon if I cant get next drop.

[viral lily]

i’m ngl this was my first time attempting getting the drop and it was WAYYY easier than i thought

thought it was finna be hard to get but it was up for 7 min and dropped at 11am for me so ig i was well prepared to order

[hardy vigil]

Got it ! But forgot to apply my birthday 20 € off... I'm making a support request.

[fiery flame]

happy bday

[copper narwhal]

will they ever re-drop the black vmse

[viral lily]

do they offer tracking your package on razer?

[viral lily]

from what i hear nah

[copper narwhal]

bruh

the white one looks ass

ngl

[viral lily]

to each their own

i agree im just not droppin hella on a black one w no insurance

[viral lily]

says delivery in progress but idk what that means

[south schooner]

Theyll send a separate email when a label is created

[viral lily]

wrd

[vale mulch]

Still on hold tight processing transaction, am I SOL? In cart at 11 probably completed checkout at 11:07

[kindred eagle]

SOL

[viral lily]

what’s SOL

[vale mulch]

💩 outta 🍀

[viral lily]

i got my order in at 11:03 and it was available until like 06/07

u were def cutting it close

[kindred eagle]

sold out in 6 minutes so anything after 06 i'd just assume didn't go through

per #signatureedition-announcements

[vale mulch]

Heard it was sold out at 07 definitely hit checkout exactly then

[frigid ravine]

Will there be any more drops

[honest pumice]

Would you go into battle with a plastic sword or gun? 🤔 the answer is obviously no, so why go into digital battle with a plastic mouse instead of a metal magnesium sword 🤔 the same thing applies go magnesium or get melted 🫠

[steep girder]

me too

[viral lily]

how long does it usally take them to ship

[south schooner]

Ordered mine last drop 11/19 just got it this Wednesday so about 8 days

[steep girder]

yay

even quicker than i though

[viral lily]

how is it?

[south schooner]

So far so good. I love it. Zero QC issues clicks feel great. Shape is amazing as expected

Really happy with it

[marsh cipher]

is there wobble on the rear side button?

[south schooner]

Not that I've noticed and I use my side buttons a decent bit for keybinds

[marsh cipher]

sounds like they fixed that then. i remember a lot of older reviews complained about it

[marble tusk]

Yeah mine broke after a while

[viral lily]

about how longs “a while”?

[marble tusk]

Got it in Nov and it broke July

[viral lily]

do they fix it under warranty?

[marble tusk]

Yeah

Got it replaced

[swift sparrow]

hey are yall epic razer gamers

[viral lily]

this is my first razer product i ordered

[frigid ravine]

Was this the last drop

[viral lily]

dont think so the black had like 6 drops

[errant mirage]

imagine if white all gone
and we get blue edition

[viral lily]

dd

idk how i feel abt a blue mouse

[swift sparrow]

so what do you all like about razer so much

[viral lily]

ive read a bunch on switch actuation for the vmse and wanted to use 8k polling rate

[austere cedar]

why does it always have to be 3 am drops from here in australia

[next bloom]

bluepowder i like

[nova veldt]

please post the mystery gift when u guys receive it! very curious to know what it is

[light temple]

ive seen on reddit

ppl say its a playing cards set with dices

i wonder if it will be the same or different for this drop

[nova veldt]

thats from awhile ago?

[errant mirage]

2 days ago

i thought it was extra set of vmse

very sad

[light temple]

hahaha lol

im so excited to get my vmse tho

finalmouse disappointed me too many times

had 2 ulx 3 ulx pros and 1 ulx competition all had different qc issues

then i tried my friends vmse and knew i had to get one

👍

[errant mirage]

👍

good choice

i'm getting stormbreaker too
so we'll see the difference when it arrives

did hear a lot of the qc issues, but well, lets hope i don't get that

[marble tusk]

I’ll take playing cards over gift wrappers from last year

[viral lily]

was anyone who alr got the mouse able to track it throughout delivery or will that not be an option?

[kindred eagle]

it's trackable via fedex for most places

[viral lily]

when is the tracking # sent out?

[kindred eagle]

idk, you'll receive an email once it's shipped

it'll also be on the status page

[viral lily]

is it truly worth the pricetag?

[steep girder]

imo it definitely is

[viral lily]

mayb if it was black but white?!?! ima pray ur right 🤞🏼

[errant mirage]

It's not worth it if you don't think it is
Worth is what individuals put on the item
If you want it, it's worth it. If not,no.

Meanwhile, if you look into it objectively, the price tag is understandable considering the 3 years warranty that razer offers that actually does proper afterservice unlike others.
Whilst being a magnesium mouse

[viral lily]

yeah its just ive never gotten a $300 mouse, used the sl12 and its the best ive ever used just didnt know if the vmse was $100+ better or if i shouldve replaced sl12

[warm meadow]

Is vmse sold out?

[kindred eagle]

yes

until next drop

[rose cloak]

its mystery

anyone have try gift?

[next bloom]

not yet. if someone received rvsme first they can share what they got lol

[rose cloak]

maybe card?

[errant mirage]

예

[vivid nimbus]

is there any confirmation

if there will be a updated viper mini with the new internals

is the white variant the last release?

[steel cloak]

No

[errant mirage]

FedEx still haven't picked up my package

[finite pilot]

me tooooo.............

[next bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/smolverse-patience-smol-gif-3870153278285947729

[errant mirage]

Mine is picked up!

Estimated delivery Thursday!

[finite pilot]

ohhhh picked up

[next bloom]

[viral lily]

WHERE U HEARIn this?!?!?

[errant mirage]

you should've received an email from razer when the product is sent

in that email you are directed to order tracking, and it gives a tracking number of fedex

that you can check on site

[viral lily]

only got the first email that my orders being processed

[marble tusk]

Does anyone have an issue where your clicks won’t work after the mouse goes to sleep once? I only have this issue on the white one

[south schooner]

I haven't noticed but I'll check later

[viral lily]

??

[vivid nimbus]

Move the mouse?

[marble tusk]

Everything works except I can’t left or right click

[viral lily]

that’s a serious problem

is it common?

[marble tusk]

Only if it’s asleep during start up

Never happen after that I’m pretty sure it went to sleep many times while I watch YouTube

So I can’t really just open my pc and do something else

I gotta move it a bit then go afk

[south schooner]

I've had the mouse for almost a week at this point and I havent had this issue

[viral lily]

how is it

[south schooner]

I love it. My only gripe is the battery life but thats really it

[viral lily]

does battery life interrupt you often?

or is just putting it to charge a hindrance for u?

mine just shipped tdy tryna problem solve before i got any problems to solve

[south schooner]

No it doesn't whatsoever I just charge it after I finish gaming for the night

I play at 2k polling and that lasts 5-6 hours I would say

[lofty topaz]

How to get something ?

It’s free ?

[viral lily]

u try 8k? would u recommend for anyone? if so what specs would one need?

[south schooner]

I have used a bunch of 8k mice prior and see no gain tbh. It just kills battery and puts unnecessary strain on your processor. Plus some games don't play well with anything over 2k

[viral lily]

what specifically doesnt play well with some gamez? frame skipping or what

[south schooner]

Fortnite for example if you use anything over 2k you'll see immediate fps dips.

[viral lily]

bro knew my main 😭

what abt val

[south schooner]

Valorant is fine I've had zero issues with 8k

[viral lily]

ok wrd

fps was what i was gana use 8k for anyway

how about ow or cod?

[south schooner]

I haven't played ow in a while so I can't say

And I recently played cod at 8k with a vv3p and it was fine as well

Just depends on what you have pc wise as well

[viral lily]

would having a laptop reduce usabilioty
since its like a different cards m sjo ;ike i9 14900HX

[south schooner]

You should be fine honestly

[vivid nimbus]

Reset the mouse

Left click right click and middle mouse button

[marble tusk]

Reset all the clicks on synapse?

[next bloom]

yea we have the same issue.

work then after 2 seconds don't work then cycle repeats.

[marble tusk]

It doesn’t really bother me that much since it’s only on start up

I just restart the pc

[next bloom]

but it worked when i changed from 2k to 1k

then back to 2k

[marble tusk]

I think yours is worse

[next bloom]

im thinking that this issue only happened after updating to synapse 4

haven't had problems with the dongle before

[marsh cipher]

thats weird. it should have atleast 20 hours of battery life on 2k. maximum* 12 hours on 8k

[vivid nimbus]

Are they done with the viper signature edition after this release

?

[steep girder]

i think so

[west rapids]

They gonna do Christmas release

[atomic fog]

vv3p or vmse? i can't get an answer

[marsh cipher]

mostly depends on your shape preference i suppose. if you like smaller mice, the viper mini is basically the best u will find. theres a reason theres dozens of clones of it

[errant mirage]

BRO

Move!!

[errant mirage]

Good news : it moved

[rose cloak]

@errant mirage where r u live?

mine is in island

[errant mirage]

Same

[next bloom]

you guys are funny adorable

[errant mirage]

[rose cloak]

why my arrive date is 12/9 ..

[errant mirage]

it could arrive early you know

for my different shipping it said arrival 10th but arrived today

[rose cloak]

it was definitely 12/6
changed today 9th T_T

hope arrive faster than 9th
i dont want waste my weekend

[quaint kiln]

did yours arrived already??

[rose cloak]

no

[rose cloak]

@errant mirage korean?

its in jp now

[errant mirage]

[errant mirage]

Same

Osaka sennan si

[tribal tiger]

There's no way to know when the next drop will be, right?

[steel cloak]

Usually done monthly but that’s about it beyond speculation

[tribal tiger]

So this month is over?

[steel cloak]

there hasn’t been one for December

[tribal tiger]

Oh, then I guess around December 30th?

[steel cloak]

Any guess is as good as mine

[tribal tiger]

I hope it gets resolved quickly

[viral lily]

yeah how long does it take the mouse to get outa Hk

[west rapids]

they have been doing them on the 20th and 1st

i betcha they do one for christmas

[tribal tiger]

I'm really looking forward to it

[trim needle]

I am in love with mine I hope you will be for yours too!

[thorny tiger]

That is a beautiful set of playing cards! 🤩

[next bloom]

feels like you will receive yours today or tomorrow

[light temple]

@rose cloak u in korea?

i also got delay message from 12/6 to 12/9 but it arrived today

[rose cloak]

yea im korean

[light temple]

me too

mine was delayed too and it came today

wtf

[rose cloak]

yea i saw it too its in custom

coming soon lol

[light temple]

nice

[rose cloak]

if nothing happens, it will come tomorrow

exciting

[light temple]

yea very exciting

time to throw away all my finalmouse

such a disappointment

one after another

[rose cloak]

my friends got finalm he doesnt like it lol

[light temple]

yea i have 2 ulx 2 ulx pros and one ulx competition

they all have different qc issues

i gave up

[rose cloak]

also threw away]

[light temple]

i see why lol

[rose cloak]

how long did u wait for final mouse to ship in korea?

[light temple]

i bought the two ulx in china

and the ulx pros in korea

but i didnt buy them from official

and the ulx competition my friend from us brought for me

[rose cloak]

i see

i want the aceu addition

[light temple]

i have one but it squeaks at the bottom

and the sides on the tarik one squeaks on the sides

💀💀

[rose cloak]

shit

[light temple]

just got it

[rose cloak]

wat? how

[light temple]

idk

[rose cloak]

wtf

[light temple]

i live in seoul but because of uni im in incheon

closer to airport so maybe thats why

[rose cloak]

see..

bring that sweetty to me
let me eat first lol

fedex is god..

[light temple]

turns out this is the secret gift

[rose cloak]

wat is that

i was gueesing that gift was trump card

[light temple]

sheesh

damn

[next bloom]

[light temple]

i would’ve preferred the playing cards set

lmao

but free is free

[next bloom]

facts loool

[light temple]

idk how im gonna use this

maybe for mid-round ig reel brainrot

would come in handy

[next bloom]

test your mouse

[errant mirage]

Hmmm

Could br that everyone gets different things

whyyyyy

[rose cloak]

T_T

[light temple]

mouse is pretty good

but a bit heavy

[marsh cipher]

-49g
-heavy

[native folio]

thats pretty heavy

now imagine 49 kg 🤯

[light temple]

i got too used to the finalmouse

[native folio]

thats like 30 sum grams right?

[light temple]

yea

33 for the small

[next bloom]

no. i got the clip too unfortunately thank you razer

[errant mirage]

[next bloom]

expecting a playing cards or some sneki stuff kek

[hollow stag]

Oh hai!

[errant mirage]

Goat pad verfied

[next bloom]

[viral lily]

when did u order

also gotta change the g pro x superlight in ur bio

r u maining vmse now?

[south schooner]

Running the exact same setup

[finite pilot]

ok!! haha

The vmse is the best mouse

[finite pilot]

12 1

[viral lily]

howd u get so fast

or r u from around where they ship

[marble tusk]

Probably depends on the country

When I order razer stuff in America it’s usually 1-2 days after it’s shipped, mostly 1 day

[finite pilot]

korea

[rose cloak]

korea is fast

[finite pilot]

yea

[gray marten]

bro taking to long

[viral lily]

real ash

[errant mirage]

Got it

[viral lily]

how is it

[quaint kiln]

Mine came too

[errant mirage]

Beautiful

Clicks are more silent then the original for some reason

[quaint kiln]

So far i love mine it doesnt have any qc issues and I think this os my end game mouse

[next bloom]

nice fren

You already have both colorways. so awesome

[errant mirage]

Thanks

Trying to get that color combination right for every pad I use

[next bloom]

pad enjoooyer?

i havent tried glass pads yet.

[errant mirage]

It's really awesome

With its glide and minimal change over time

Went through various glass pads from different companies but settled in wallhack

current 3-cycle combo

[next bloom]

Woaah that's some serious line ups

[rose cloak]

i got it

🐽

[next bloom]

test it

[finite pilot]

oh

[rose cloak]

amazing

[marble tusk]

That Miku pad looks nice I want it

[errant mirage]

i'm keeping this for eternity

[marble tusk]

You can’t get it no more?

[errant mirage]

You can

Through wallhack jp

Don't know it's still on Amazon
One though

[marble tusk]

I don’t see add to cart button

[errant mirage]

its not sold out

hmmmm

[marble tusk]

I mean Amazon does it but the shipping is crazy

Idk if official site does on shipping

[errant mirage]

brother

that's what i've been going through everytime i order

living in south korea,
pad order sent from US or europe is
60~80 dollars

• tarrif

• tax

[marble tusk]

Sad

[viral lily]

r the glass skates the vmse come with alright for a wallhack sp4

[marble tusk]

@errant mirage I got it for $172 on Amazon

[trail coral]

do not use glass on glass.

[viral lily]

what skates do i use w it

[south schooner]

I use the obsidian dots

Ordered them from wallhack with my pad

They're on the more control side but they're exactly what I wanted coming from a control pad user

[trail coral]

ptfe, hardened ptfe or uhmw. there are other materials too are compatible, but these are the most common.

[errant mirage]

[next bloom]

what mouse are compatible with razer dock pro?

[steel cloak]

naga v2 pro, basilisk V3 pro, basilisk v3 pro 35k, cobra pro

[next bloom]

ohhh thanks

[steel cloak]

Yerp

Worth mentioning the naga v2 pro doesn’t support hyperpolling with it, only the basilisks and cobra have the 8kHz

[rose cloak]

atisan zero soft and type 99 mid is coming tomorrow

for vmse

[errant mirage]

Get glass

[next bloom]

im using soft glorious pad

[high kindle]

got mine yesterday

keyboard clip on for everyone?

[errant mirage]

yes

[high kindle]

White and 3D Printed

[next bloom]

yes

[next bloom]

ohhh. the black one was viper mini and modified casing?

[high kindle]

right now its just the case, nylon 3d printed

I really wanted a viper mini and the drop wasnt announced so I order this case on ali, you have to buy other mouse, dismount it and mount it inside this case

[hushed geyser]

BMSE Black doesnt drop anymore..?

[errant mirage]

드롭 X

[viral lily]

anyone’s vmse in alaska?

[turbid cedar]

does anyone know if Razer will be doing another drop?

[trim needle]

real but I've been using my vsme quite a bit now and man this is the perfect one for me, still waiting on my competition though

[thorny abyss]

next year or sum

[west rapids]

I think they will do the last white drop on or around Christmas

[rose cloak]

got artisan 99 mid , zero soft

[honest pumice]

I won't be surprised if they do the drop on Christmas day because they dropped on Halloween an incredibly sacred day

[marsh cipher]

how is the 99? im using a zero and was curious how much slower the 99 is

[rose cloak]

just opened now lol

will test on valorant

[uncut inlet]

that mousepad looks so good

[marsh cipher]

artisan is really good with their mousepad colours. the orange on my zero is beautiful and the matcha for the type 99 is great

[rose cloak]

amazing

[rose cloak]

yea i bought orange either

i will test zero after type99 :p

[rose cloak]

zero soft sliding 6.5/10

type 99 mid 4.5/10

my opinion

type 99 mid is better to me

[marsh cipher]

sounds quite slow.i might skip it then. tbh the zero is actually almost perfect to me so if i buy another artisan pad i might just get a spare zero or two

[rose cloak]

type 99 mid 5/10

not 4.5

its ilke balance pad

[thorny tiger]

What is that keyboard clip-on phone holder?

[errant mirage]

Free gift

From the event

[thorny tiger]

Ah I see… can’t remember seeing that in my box. Thanks. Are you using glass or soft pad with yours?

[errant mirage]

It's only for this drop that's the event period overlaps with the vmse drop

[errant mirage]

I'm going to use glass with it

Have replaced the bottom with obsidian air dots

[thorny tiger]

I was thinking of going glass too but worried it’ll affect the friction/movement as I like it on a high dpi.

[errant mirage]

i mean many people say its bad too use high sensitivity with glass, but that differs by people

for me i like the glide in glass

and i use 1600

[frosty violet]

Its better to use the glass mousepad than the glass pipe also

[naive mirage]

I want that mouse.

[tough jasper]

Same here

[fiery jolt]

are drops like its free or is it just restocked

[tough jasper]

viper v3 pro and vmse

[kindred eagle]

restocked

[fiery jolt]

ok thanks

[errant mirage]

We all same brothers

[tough jasper]

But idk, the vmse is betterfor the build quality and in visual,, but for me it's hard to get a horizontal line in fps game like valorant

[sly dragon]

Maybe

[tough jasper]

I feel more consistent with viper v3 pro in horizontal line because my hand is medium

in claw grip

[frosty violet]

that's cool its dropping again before Christmas because I wanted to get a few extras for my personal collection so I have sufficient deadstock in the event their is a nuclear holocaust soon and I have to hide in my basement for 10 years eating cans of corn and baked beans while gaming off a solar panel array hooked into my battery backup.

[tough jasper]

But my aim was the best on vmse brh

I hope they will sell a vmse 2.0 with the new sensor

[sly dragon]

U will get used to it v3 pro is so goated

[frosty violet]

I just wish that the V3 Pro was made out of magnesium because we dont really like plastic around this area of the discord that much because most of us are in the magnesium camp meaning if our hands even touch plastic we get flair ups and skin problems due to the nature of its inherent toxicity and its just a bad long term risk that most of us getting magnesium dont want to risk , heath is important super important and razer understands this with their boutique release of the signature edition.

[west rapids]

Yeah I am also going to buy extras to scalp on ebay

[frosty violet]

you will regret scalping those mice instead of savoring them over a 10 year span waiting for nuclear fallout to reach acceptable levels to live above ground on a semi permeant basis because your fiat currency will be rendered useless at that time

[rose cloak]

viper v3pro has goat grip but i cant use on fps

too big to me

using on league of legend lol

[frosty violet]

https://tenor.com/view/papi-ace-tiny-hands-small-hands-typing-type-gif-24733464

[rose cloak]

[marsh bobcat]

Should i add a 3rd viper mini signature editon to the collection?

[frosty violet]

yes you should incase you need one because of a magnesium alloy shortage risk

[kindred eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-true-lowtiergod-low-tier-god-true-gif-4673422440182131168

[gray marten]

i mean how did yalls come in so fast i still have 2 days left

looks like everyone hAS THERE

[native folio]

no way youre that far from them

they shipped it to the other side of the planet pretty quick for me

[gray marten]

i live in the us

where do they come from

[errant mirage]

Hongkong

That's why asia gets it fast

[marble tusk]

I got mine 48h after placing the order and I’m in the us

Could be just customs issue

[native folio]

im in canada, so idk how you didnt get it by now

[gray marten]

lucky

well razer said in comes on monday and ups says Wednesday

[nimble crypt]

will the black one be dropping on the 10th aswell

[next bloom]

black wont come back

[gray marten]

do u think that affects the mouse anyway like a different batch or something

[nimble crypt]

seriously?

[gray marten]

that is the most amazing sentiment i have heard in a while

[west rapids]

Some dudes at razer are like "let's do green" and the other pms are like "it's not the right time!!"

[next bloom]

Yes no joke fam

it’s been out of production a couple of months now

only way is secondary market

[nimble crypt]

thought i read something above that december might be last month for white? what comes next?

[next bloom]

#signatureedition-announcements

idk i just follow announcements

[nimble crypt]

okay thanks for the help

[marble tusk]

No customs are the people that inspect the products when it’s coming the country

My keyboard got stuck by them for a few days

Razer took a few days to resolve it and let it out

[radiant coyote]

My third one is finally hereeeeee

[honest pumice]

Nice you need a 4th now... you can get the next drop on the 10th I hope to get you in advance for your esports professional success 🙌

[errant mirage]

time to get 2 digit of it

you're 1/3 there already

[viral lily]

i got text this morning sayin it’s coming tomorrow

[viral lily]

what’s the need for this much speed 😭

[radiant coyote]

haha

[viral lily]

do u just rotate when one dies?

[radiant coyote]

yep

one of the white ones actually broke

so I bought one more

I need to send the broken one back to fix